| snail | do we have to worry about updating the tz files for this kind of shit, or is there a crack team of geeks somewhere else who does it? http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pacific/5724234/Dateline-shift-gives-first-light-to-remote-atoll | 00:14 |
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| ajmitch | the tzdata package gets frequent updates for this | 00:15 |
| * ibeardslee recalls major kerfuffle when we changed and it took a while for some apps maintaining their own tz data to catch up | 00:21 | |
| ajmitch | like php5? :) | 00:21 |
| ajmitch | which thankfully should use the system timezone info now | 00:22 |
| ibeardslee | I think it may have been php .. could have been postgres though | 00:22 |
| ajmitch | php was a problem for us | 00:22 |
| ojwb | tz data seems a particularly dumb thing to ship your own copy off | 00:32 |
| ojwb | of, even | 00:32 |
| ibeardslee | yeap .. but the exclusivity of dumb is not limited to politicians | 00:33 |
| ajmitch | ojwb: given that I was talking about php, are you surprised? | 00:34 |
| snail | ojwb: i'd consider shipping my own tz data if i had to support windows platforms ~ 15 years ago | 01:04 |
| ojwb | that's OK, timezones aren't likely to change for 15 years ago | 01:05 |
| snail | ojwb: I always heard people say 'the past is a different country' but never considered the implications... | 01:33 |
| ojwb | "We are currently working on PBT Transport e-services and expect them to be released in 2008." it says on their website | 02:30 |
| ibeardslee | heh .. their tz data is waaayyy out of whack | 02:32 |
| ajmitch | some people just take a little while to catch up :) | 02:42 |
| snail | ojwb: fax them a screenshot... | 02:47 |
| ojwb | not until they make my delivery | 02:47 |
| ojwb | I'm holding the screenshot ransom | 02:47 |
| * ojwb seems to be really bad at getting stuck into things when there's a pending delivery or someone coming round at a non-specific time | 02:54 | |
| mwhudson | ojwb: i don't know how people who don't have flexible work arrangements ever take delivery of anything | 03:01 |
| ojwb | if it's small, we tend to just send it to jenny's work and reception sign for it | 03:01 |
| ojwb | that way I don't need to listen out all day | 03:02 |
| ojwb | i'd certainly be more annoyed if I had to take leave to wait for a delivery which didn't turn up | 03:02 |
| chilts | when I got home on Friday, my parcel from Amazon was sitting on the doorstep :) | 03:03 |
| chilts | no need to be at home | 03:03 |
| mwhudson | heh yes, i had that happen with my thinkpad | 03:04 |
| mwhudson | i wasn't very impressed | 03:04 |
| chilts | this was just two books so not worth worrying much about, but yeah, a laptop is a different story | 03:05 |
| ojwb | and that's one of the neighbouts, not the courier | 03:06 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 18:12 |
| chilts | morning | 18:29 |
| snail | those four disconnects bought to you courtesy of our tuesday morning change window | 19:17 |
| ajmitch | morning | 19:23 |
| ojwb | morning | 20:45 |
| Atamira | morena | 20:55 |
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