[00:14] do we have to worry about updating the tz files for this kind of shit, or is there a crack team of geeks somewhere else who does it? http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pacific/5724234/Dateline-shift-gives-first-light-to-remote-atoll [00:15] the tzdata package gets frequent updates for this [00:21] * ibeardslee recalls major kerfuffle when we changed and it took a while for some apps maintaining their own tz data to catch up [00:21] like php5? :) [00:22] which thankfully should use the system timezone info now [00:22] I think it may have been php .. could have been postgres though [00:22] php was a problem for us [00:32] tz data seems a particularly dumb thing to ship your own copy off [00:32] of, even [00:33] yeap .. but the exclusivity of dumb is not limited to politicians [00:34] ojwb: given that I was talking about php, are you surprised? [01:04] ojwb: i'd consider shipping my own tz data if i had to support windows platforms ~ 15 years ago [01:05] that's OK, timezones aren't likely to change for 15 years ago [01:33] ojwb: I always heard people say 'the past is a different country' but never considered the implications... [02:30] "We are currently working on PBT Transport e-services and expect them to be released in 2008." it says on their website [02:32] heh .. their tz data is waaayyy out of whack [02:42] some people just take a little while to catch up :) [02:47] ojwb: fax them a screenshot... [02:47] not until they make my delivery [02:47] I'm holding the screenshot ransom [02:54] * ojwb seems to be really bad at getting stuck into things when there's a pending delivery or someone coming round at a non-specific time [03:01] ojwb: i don't know how people who don't have flexible work arrangements ever take delivery of anything [03:01] if it's small, we tend to just send it to jenny's work and reception sign for it [03:02] that way I don't need to listen out all day [03:02] i'd certainly be more annoyed if I had to take leave to wait for a delivery which didn't turn up [03:03] when I got home on Friday, my parcel from Amazon was sitting on the doorstep :) [03:03] no need to be at home [03:04] heh yes, i had that happen with my thinkpad [03:04] i wasn't very impressed [03:05] this was just two books so not worth worrying much about, but yeah, a laptop is a different story [03:06] and that's one of the neighbouts, not the courier [18:12] morning [18:29] morning [19:17] those four disconnects bought to you courtesy of our tuesday morning change window [19:23] morning [20:45] morning [20:55] morena