| wrst | binarymutant: hey yeah I know about linus... | 01:48 |
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| wrst | binarymutant: here are some screenshots http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/gnome3-2.png http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/gnome-3-2-2.png | 01:55 |
| wrst | I don't have it tweaked much just a different shell theme and background and that's a stock gnome background | 01:56 |
| binarymutant | wrst: the panel is on the side in gnome3 too? | 01:56 |
| * Unit193 hopes that's not "Twlight" on the side | 01:56 | |
| Unit193 | twilight rather | 01:56 |
| wrst | yes its on the side but only when you use it most of the time its not seen | 01:57 |
| wrst | twilight as in the movie??? | 01:57 |
| Unit193 | wrst: Yep, quassel window ;) | 01:57 |
| binarymutant | I had a hard time with the panel on the side, it kept popping up whenever I was doing anything | 01:57 |
| binarymutant | looks good though | 01:57 |
| wrst | never pops up binarymutant unless you hover in the hot corner on the activites or hit the super key | 01:58 |
| binarymutant | ah | 01:58 |
| binarymutant | my side panel experience was with unity | 01:58 |
| wrst | yeah well gnome 3 is light years ahead of unity | 01:59 |
| * wrst does not intend to start a flame war | 01:59 | |
| binarymutant | that's cool | 01:59 |
| wrst | i would have loved to seen ubuntu put their twist on gnome shell vs going off reservation | 02:00 |
| wrst | ohh Unit193 i'm finally gettting the twilight that's twil = this week in linux :) | 02:02 |
| binarymutant | I think it had something to do with gnome's not-so benevelant dictatorship | 02:02 |
| * wrst is slow | 02:02 | |
| wrst | binarymutant: yes well ubuntu has a little of that in them too so probalby destined to happen :) | 02:02 |
| Unit193 | That also might have taken some looking :P | 02:02 |
| wrst | ha ha | 02:02 |
| binarymutant | :D | 02:02 |
| wrst | but binarymutant i'm perfectly happy with gnome 3 its slick looking, modern and performs well | 02:03 |
| wrst | i would love to have a tablet device running it | 02:03 |
| binarymutant | it does look very sleek | 02:03 |
| binarymutant | first time i've seen it | 02:04 |
| wrst | takes a little getting used to and some of the defaults are stupid, but for a more or less 1.0 release of something its good | 02:05 |
| wrst | and much better than kde 4.0 was by a long shot | 02:05 |
| binarymutant | I don't think I ever saw kde4 either | 02:05 |
| binarymutant | just heard about it | 02:05 |
| wrst | its very good now binarymutant, but at the 4.0 release it was bad | 02:06 |
| wrst | now its very solid | 02:06 |
| wrst | i just like gnome better | 02:06 |
| binarymutant | ah | 02:06 |
| wrst | but both are good | 02:06 |
| binarymutant | does kde have side panel or still bottom? | 02:06 |
| binarymutant | bottom* | 02:07 |
| binarymutant | kde looks more like windows | 02:07 |
| wrst | binarymutant: yeah kde did windows 7 before windows 7 did it | 02:20 |
| binarymutant | lol | 02:20 |
| wrst | but its highly customizable where gnome-shell not as much | 02:21 |
| * Unit193 knows someone else on Arch that updated Gnome3 | 02:23 | |
| wrst | wow another arch user! | 02:25 |
| Unit193 | On a few Ubuntu channels too ;) | 02:25 |
| wrst | that seems to be a progression some take from ubuntu to arch | 02:27 |
| * binarymutant finds that progression a little strange | 02:28 | |
| binarymutant | should be ubuntu<->debian | 02:28 |
| Unit193 | Now playing: "Carol Of The Bells" by "August Burns Red (Holiday)" on "Lost Messengers: The Outtakes" <3 | 02:29 |
| wrst | binarymutant: yeah i think its the oldness of packages in debian and also, arch i think is a little simpler than debian to learn | 02:29 |
| Unit193 | Sorry, but I like this one | 02:29 |
| Unit193 | Arch is more likly to break | 02:30 |
| binarymutant | wrst: unstable is where it's at | 02:30 |
| Unit193 | But has all the new stuff | 02:30 |
| wrst | Unit193: never had arch to break | 02:30 |
| binarymutant | aur? | 02:30 |
| wrst | and binarymutant i tried testing still can't get gnome-shell, so moved to unstable and still no gnome-3 some dependency issue | 02:31 |
| wrst | binarymutant: certainly use the AUR | 02:31 |
| binarymutant | eh? that's not cool | 02:32 |
| wrst | yeah binarymutant so i wasn't too happy and the "unstabled" gnome 3 is like 3.0.something when 3.2 is out in the wild | 02:32 |
| binarymutant | huh it's still in experimental | 02:34 |
| binarymutant | 3.0.2 | 02:34 |
| wrst | yeah thats it i had to add the experimental repo, that's the trouble | 02:35 |
| wrst | anyway not worth the hassle | 02:35 |
| binarymutant | there must be an rc bug on it or something from keeping it out of unstable, that's weird | 02:36 |
| binarymutant | :/ | 02:37 |
| wrst | yeah not worth worrying with when I can get what i want with no hassle | 02:38 |
| binarymutant | wrst: very understandable | 02:38 |
| wrst | yeah, oh well, good night binarymutant think i'm heading out | 02:48 |
| wrst | see you later Unit193 | 02:48 |
| Unit193 | Good night mate | 02:48 |
| wrst | wb binarymutant | 12:21 |
| binarymutant | ty ty | 12:26 |
| wrst | how are you doing binarymutant? | 12:26 |
| binarymutant | good & you? | 12:27 |
| wrst | doing well binarymutant, have a good weekend? | 12:27 |
| binarymutant | it had it's ups&downs | 12:27 |
| wrst | mine had lots of sleep I think | 12:50 |
| binarymutant | lol | 12:50 |
| binarymutant | wish mine did | 12:53 |
| binarymutant | mine started out with a lot of nicotine and ended up cold turkey | 12:53 |
| wrst | oh goodness binarymutant that is rough, I know a guy that quit smoking and used the patches and had good luck | 12:54 |
| binarymutant | (although I can't get it out of my head, so I might break down and buy) | 12:54 |
| binarymutant | wrst: that might be a good idea | 12:54 |
| binarymutant | patches and/or gum | 12:54 |
| binarymutant | anything really | 12:55 |
| wrst | yeah his doctor told him to use them longer than suggested and a few other things to help him out | 12:55 |
| binarymutant | cold turkey isn't very fun :/ | 12:55 |
| binarymutant | aren't those patches like 30$ though? | 12:56 |
| wrst | no and probably not for those around you :) | 12:56 |
| wrst | i have no clue binarymutant never smoked | 12:56 |
| binarymutant | :P | 12:56 |
| binarymutant | I think they're expensive | 12:56 |
| wrst | probably so | 12:56 |
| xpistos | hey all | 13:33 |
| wrst | howdy xpistos | 13:33 |
| cyberanger | wrst: even if they're 30 bucks, those patches work (compare that to WinDOS) | 13:47 |
| wrst | morning cyberanger | 13:50 |
| * cyberanger checks his watch, rattles it about | 13:54 | |
| cyberanger | morning wrst | 13:54 |
| * cyberanger starts humming "on the road again" | 13:54 | |
| wrst | where you on the road to today cyberanger? if you can let go of that info | 13:56 |
| cyberanger | top secret bunker #53, undisclosed location between Maryville, TN & Deals Gap, NC | 13:57 |
| wrst | ha ha cyberanger | 13:57 |
| cyberanger | D'Oh | 13:58 |
| binarymu1ant | grrrr | 14:36 |
| binarymu1ant | brb | 14:36 |
| wrst | binarymutant: back to stay? :) | 14:44 |
| binarymutant | no I'm getting some bad xorg artifacts | 14:46 |
| binarymutant | restarting X again, sorry | 14:47 |
| binarymutant | so weird | 14:48 |
| binarymutant | but good now | 14:48 |
| wrst | ha ha | 14:49 |
| binarymutant | I set some Xft option in my .Xresources and it left really nasty artifacts all over my screen | 14:49 |
| binarymutant | but Xft is fonts o_0 | 14:50 |
| wrst | way over my head binarymutant x is a mystery to me | 14:51 |
| binarymutant | sometimes it confuses the **** out of me | 14:51 |
| binarymutant | I guess Xft is like a layer over X, idk why else it would leave artifacts | 14:53 |
| wrst | beats me i just rejoiced when xorg.conf was no longer required for most things :) | 14:54 |
| binarymutant | lol | 14:54 |
| binarymutant | auto xorg.conf is pretty cool, took a long time to get used to though | 14:55 |
| wrst | didn't me binarymutant | 14:55 |
| wrst | now for my desktop using nvidia it uses xorg.conf, but nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig take care of all that for me | 14:55 |
| binarymutant | ya | 14:55 |
| binarymutant | I don't even think that those apps write xorg | 14:56 |
| binarymutant | .conf | 14:56 |
| wrst | and with my intel laptop its all down through the gnome display settings and that is the nicest thing, but not near the control nvidia-settings gives | 14:56 |
| wrst | binarymutant: the nividia stuff does write to and you can hack it if you need to | 14:56 |
| binarymutant | I use nvidia-settings but still don't have the .conf, it's weird | 14:57 |
| binarymutant | very automagick | 14:57 |
| wrst | hmm well, i use dual monitors don't know if that is it, or if i have been doing nvidia-xconfig and don't need to possibly? | 14:58 |
| binarymutant | ah, it's prolly the dual monitors that need to write it | 14:59 |
| binarymutant | wrst: do you do 2 different screens or the one giant xinerama screen? | 14:59 |
| wrst | twinview | 14:59 |
| binarymutant | that's the 2 seperate? | 15:00 |
| wrst | yes | 15:00 |
| wrst | but not seperate x-sessions on each screen | 15:00 |
| wrst | so on the left i have my gnome panel and all that jazz and on the right hand its wide open real estate | 15:00 |
| binarymutant | pretty cool | 15:00 |
| binarymutant | that's what I was doing when I had dual monitors, the one giant screen wasn't very good for games | 15:01 |
| wrst | no and I have to shut down one screen for games now it gets thins confused sometimes | 15:02 |
| binarymutant | dual is cool though | 15:03 |
| binarymutant | if your monitors are different sizes, moving the app into the middle of them looked really weird I remember that about xinerama | 15:03 |
| wrst | yeah and mine are different sizes and different resolutions, right hand is 16:10 left hand 16:9 | 15:04 |
| binarymutant | those are huge monitors ! :D | 15:04 |
| wrst | nah not really one is a 19" the other is 21" | 15:05 |
| wrst | that's just so so by todays standards | 15:05 |
| binarymutant | must be a really good video card then | 15:05 |
| wrst | yaeh decent actually have two and running sli, but with linux you can't sli on two monitors that is disappointing or you couldn't maybe you can now | 15:06 |
| binarymutant | dunno, never had the hardware to do sli | 15:07 |
| binarymutant | sli is like parrellel video cards? | 15:08 |
| wrst | yeah you pretty much put the power of two cards into one output | 15:08 |
| wrst | you can use dual monitors in winders with sli enabled | 15:08 |
| binarymutant | I bet sli makes gaming super detailed | 15:09 |
| binarymutant | I can't even remember what that's called... parallel computing... | 15:10 |
| binarymutant | *cluster* duh | 15:13 |
| * binarymutant had to look it up | 15:13 | |
| wrst | binarymutant: i'm not for sure never got to use it! | 15:16 |
| wrst | on sli, i have on windows and it improves thigns but i have lower end cards | 15:17 |
| binarymutant | maybe games just aren't written for parallel gpu's yet :/ | 15:17 |
| binarymutant | it'll be forever until I get cards that I could that, I just now got a laptop with 2 processors in it lol | 15:18 |
| wrst | yeah I am generally on the blunt edge of technology | 15:19 |
| wrst | just can't afford cutting or bleeding edge | 15:19 |
| binarymutant | I'm on 10 years ago tech :P | 15:19 |
| binarymutant | not any edge, the handle lol | 15:20 |
| wrst | that can be painful :) | 15:20 |
| binarymutant | it's fun though, I get better speeds than most people with brand new computers :D | 15:21 |
| binarymutant | no bloat lol | 15:21 |
| wrst | haha | 15:21 |
| wrst | what are you running exactly binarymutant? | 15:21 |
| binarymutant | this laptop is a Latitude D630 | 15:22 |
| xpistos | That is a solid laptop | 15:22 |
| wrst | yes | 15:22 |
| wrst | i meant os/desktop | 15:22 |
| binarymutant | yeah it is, it rocks | 15:23 |
| binarymutant | my desktop is a .. hng on | 15:23 |
| binarymutant | optiplex dimension 4700, but it's not used as a desktop anymore | 15:24 |
| binarymutant | it's just a file server these days | 15:24 |
| wrst | yeah those aren't bad machiens either think my moms computer maybe one of those actually | 15:25 |
| binarymutant | Linux on everything (of course) | 15:25 |
| wrst | of course, ubuntu? | 15:25 |
| binarymutant | debian/ubuntu yeah | 15:25 |
| wrst | cool | 15:25 |
| binarymutant | I don't switch distros like I did 10 years ago anymore, Debian is my work horse and if I need newer app versions I just compile it myself | 15:26 |
| xpistos | lol my old dimension 4400 is my files server too | 15:26 |
| binarymutant | lol but they do the job really well | 15:27 |
| binarymutant | no need to get a new one yet | 15:28 |
| binarymutant | maybe the next decade :P | 15:28 |
| xpistos | Still here? | 15:54 |
| binarymutant | of course :D | 15:55 |
| binarymutant | idk why my network kicks me off so much | 15:56 |
| binarymutant | now I must kill ppl [in UrbanTerror] | 16:03 |
| wrst | have fun binarymutant :) | 16:16 |
| binarymutant | and back | 17:29 |
| binarymutant | intense | 17:30 |
| binarymutant | whoa bitbucket does git now? that's pretty cool! github doesn't do hg yet lol | 17:31 |
| wrst | wb... again... binarymutant :P | 18:19 |
| xpistos | Am I falling out of this chair? | 19:07 |
| wrst | no you are not | 19:12 |
| cyberanger | xpistos: lookss wobbly, maybe | 19:34 |
| wrst | greetings cyberanger | 19:37 |
| cyberanger | hey wrst | 19:39 |
| wrst | how are you doing cyberanger? | 19:39 |
| xpistos | back | 19:40 |
| xpistos | wrst: fyi, my arch install ... humming | 19:40 |
| cyberanger | wrst: well, lets just say it's simplier driving alone | 19:40 |
| xpistos | flying down the pike with icewm installed | 19:41 |
| wrst | cool xpistos, it really flies if you set it up to :) | 19:42 |
| wrst | cyberanger: amen! | 19:42 |
| cyberanger | only three people in the car, and I've got 4 opinions on where to go, irritating | 19:43 |
| cyberanger | only one should matter, the driver | 19:43 |
| xpistos | cyberanger: I got two words for you | 19:43 |
| xpistos | Ejector | 19:43 |
| xpistos | Seats | 19:43 |
| wrst | ha ha xpistos | 19:44 |
| cyberanger | xpistos: well, considering who the passengers are, and the owner of the car, I've got one work | 19:45 |
| cyberanger | backfire | 19:45 |
| cyberanger | ejecting your folks from your mom's car, not wise | 19:45 |
| cyberanger | i did actually consider chucking the gps out the window, but settled for shutting it up by disabling the route | 19:46 |
| cyberanger | I reseaarch where i'm going for twice as long as driving it takes, plan alternate routes | 19:48 |
| cyberanger | consider detours, construction | 19:48 |
| cyberanger | that gps doesn't factor that and can get confused as to what road your on, if there is a parellel road | 19:49 |
| cyberanger | not to metion the map software is 5 years old | 19:49 |
| cyberanger | on topp of that, they didn't want me driving in cinniniti, but this route bypasses it, only 5 miles of ohio between indina & kentuckey | 19:51 |
| * cyberanger notices my typing is real off, between bumpy road& this small keyboard, and not running spell check attm | 19:52 | |
| cyberanger | wrst: so yeah, good, next year I go solo and leave the nag-a-tron at home | 19:54 |
| wrst | ha ha cyberanger | 19:55 |
| cyberanger | <scarsam>oh wait, I don't own a nag-a-tron, wonder why</scarsam> | 19:55 |
| cyberanger | I learned a long time ago what a nuicense these trips can be, hence why in june 2010 I outfitted with celluar internet to offset the annoyances | 19:58 |
| * cyberanger has nothing against GPS, satnav however, it's just one more distraction | 20:02 | |
| pace_t_zulu | binarymutant: "Bitbucket now rocks Git" | 20:02 |
| binarymutant | ya I got the email, pretty nifty | 21:21 |
| binarymutant | brb | 21:21 |
| binarymutant | pace_t_zulu: github doesn't do mercurial, so it's a +1 for bitbucket atm | 21:33 |
| binarymutant | ok idk what's going on with irc, I got logged off while playing UrT but in game stayed online... weird :/ | 21:35 |
| binarymutant | bitbucket should go ahead and do every version control software, it shouldn't be too hard | 21:43 |
| Unit193 | Well, I'm sure you could guess what I made to eat :P | 22:16 |
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