[01:48] binarymutant: hey yeah I know about linus... [01:55] binarymutant: here are some screenshots http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/gnome3-2.png http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/gnome-3-2-2.png [01:56] I don't have it tweaked much just a different shell theme and background and that's a stock gnome background [01:56] wrst: the panel is on the side in gnome3 too? [01:56] * Unit193 hopes that's not "Twlight" on the side [01:56] twilight rather [01:57] yes its on the side but only when you use it most of the time its not seen [01:57] twilight as in the movie??? [01:57] wrst: Yep, quassel window ;) [01:57] I had a hard time with the panel on the side, it kept popping up whenever I was doing anything [01:57] looks good though [01:58] never pops up binarymutant unless you hover in the hot corner on the activites or hit the super key [01:58] ah [01:58] my side panel experience was with unity [01:59] yeah well gnome 3 is light years ahead of unity [01:59] * wrst does not intend to start a flame war [01:59] that's cool [02:00] i would have loved to seen ubuntu put their twist on gnome shell vs going off reservation [02:02] ohh Unit193 i'm finally gettting the twilight that's twil = this week in linux :) [02:02] I think it had something to do with gnome's not-so benevelant dictatorship [02:02] * wrst is slow [02:02] binarymutant: yes well ubuntu has a little of that in them too so probalby destined to happen :) [02:02] That also might have taken some looking :P [02:02] ha ha [02:02] :D [02:03] but binarymutant i'm perfectly happy with gnome 3 its slick looking, modern and performs well [02:03] i would love to have a tablet device running it [02:03] it does look very sleek [02:04] first time i've seen it [02:05] takes a little getting used to and some of the defaults are stupid, but for a more or less 1.0 release of something its good [02:05] and much better than kde 4.0 was by a long shot [02:05] I don't think I ever saw kde4 either [02:05] just heard about it [02:06] its very good now binarymutant, but at the 4.0 release it was bad [02:06] now its very solid [02:06] i just like gnome better [02:06] ah [02:06] but both are good [02:06] does kde have side panel or still bottom? [02:07] bottom* [02:07] kde looks more like windows [02:20] binarymutant: yeah kde did windows 7 before windows 7 did it [02:20] lol [02:21] but its highly customizable where gnome-shell not as much [02:23] * Unit193 knows someone else on Arch that updated Gnome3 [02:25] wow another arch user! [02:25] On a few Ubuntu channels too ;) [02:27] that seems to be a progression some take from ubuntu to arch [02:28] * binarymutant finds that progression a little strange [02:28] should be ubuntu<->debian [02:29] Now playing: "Carol Of The Bells" by "August Burns Red (Holiday)" on "Lost Messengers: The Outtakes" <3 [02:29] binarymutant: yeah i think its the oldness of packages in debian and also, arch i think is a little simpler than debian to learn [02:29] Sorry, but I like this one [02:30] Arch is more likly to break [02:30] wrst: unstable is where it's at [02:30] But has all the new stuff [02:30] Unit193: never had arch to break [02:30] aur? [02:31] and binarymutant i tried testing still can't get gnome-shell, so moved to unstable and still no gnome-3 some dependency issue [02:31] binarymutant: certainly use the AUR [02:32] eh? that's not cool [02:32] yeah binarymutant so i wasn't too happy and the "unstabled" gnome 3 is like 3.0.something when 3.2 is out in the wild [02:34] huh it's still in experimental [02:34] 3.0.2 [02:35] yeah thats it i had to add the experimental repo, that's the trouble [02:35] anyway not worth the hassle [02:36] there must be an rc bug on it or something from keeping it out of unstable, that's weird [02:37] :/ [02:38] yeah not worth worrying with when I can get what i want with no hassle [02:38] wrst: very understandable [02:48] yeah, oh well, good night binarymutant think i'm heading out [02:48] see you later Unit193 [02:48] Good night mate [12:21] wb binarymutant [12:26] ty ty [12:26] how are you doing binarymutant? [12:27] good & you? [12:27] doing well binarymutant, have a good weekend? [12:27] it had it's ups&downs [12:50] mine had lots of sleep I think [12:50] lol [12:53] wish mine did [12:53] mine started out with a lot of nicotine and ended up cold turkey [12:54] oh goodness binarymutant that is rough, I know a guy that quit smoking and used the patches and had good luck [12:54] (although I can't get it out of my head, so I might break down and buy) [12:54] wrst: that might be a good idea [12:54] patches and/or gum [12:55] anything really [12:55] yeah his doctor told him to use them longer than suggested and a few other things to help him out [12:55] cold turkey isn't very fun :/ [12:56] aren't those patches like 30$ though? [12:56] no and probably not for those around you :) [12:56] i have no clue binarymutant never smoked [12:56] :P [12:56] I think they're expensive [12:56] probably so [13:33] hey all [13:33] howdy xpistos [13:47] wrst: even if they're 30 bucks, those patches work (compare that to WinDOS) [13:50] morning cyberanger [13:54] * cyberanger checks his watch, rattles it about [13:54] morning wrst [13:54] * cyberanger starts humming "on the road again" [13:56] where you on the road to today cyberanger? if you can let go of that info [13:57] top secret bunker #53, undisclosed location between Maryville, TN & Deals Gap, NC [13:57] ha ha cyberanger [13:58] D'Oh [14:36] grrrr [14:36] brb [14:44] binarymutant: back to stay? :) [14:46] no I'm getting some bad xorg artifacts [14:47] restarting X again, sorry [14:48] so weird [14:48] but good now [14:49] ha ha [14:49] I set some Xft option in my .Xresources and it left really nasty artifacts all over my screen [14:50] but Xft is fonts o_0 [14:51] way over my head binarymutant x is a mystery to me [14:51] sometimes it confuses the **** out of me [14:53] I guess Xft is like a layer over X, idk why else it would leave artifacts [14:54] beats me i just rejoiced when xorg.conf was no longer required for most things :) [14:54] lol [14:55] auto xorg.conf is pretty cool, took a long time to get used to though [14:55] didn't me binarymutant [14:55] now for my desktop using nvidia it uses xorg.conf, but nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig take care of all that for me [14:55] ya [14:56] I don't even think that those apps write xorg [14:56] .conf [14:56] and with my intel laptop its all down through the gnome display settings and that is the nicest thing, but not near the control nvidia-settings gives [14:56] binarymutant: the nividia stuff does write to and you can hack it if you need to [14:57] I use nvidia-settings but still don't have the .conf, it's weird [14:57] very automagick [14:58] hmm well, i use dual monitors don't know if that is it, or if i have been doing nvidia-xconfig and don't need to possibly? [14:59] ah, it's prolly the dual monitors that need to write it [14:59] wrst: do you do 2 different screens or the one giant xinerama screen? [14:59] twinview [15:00] that's the 2 seperate? [15:00] yes [15:00] but not seperate x-sessions on each screen [15:00] so on the left i have my gnome panel and all that jazz and on the right hand its wide open real estate [15:00] pretty cool [15:01] that's what I was doing when I had dual monitors, the one giant screen wasn't very good for games [15:02] no and I have to shut down one screen for games now it gets thins confused sometimes [15:03] dual is cool though [15:03] if your monitors are different sizes, moving the app into the middle of them looked really weird I remember that about xinerama [15:04] yeah and mine are different sizes and different resolutions, right hand is 16:10 left hand 16:9 [15:04] those are huge monitors ! :D [15:05] nah not really one is a 19" the other is 21" [15:05] that's just so so by todays standards [15:05] must be a really good video card then [15:06] yaeh decent actually have two and running sli, but with linux you can't sli on two monitors that is disappointing or you couldn't maybe you can now [15:07] dunno, never had the hardware to do sli [15:08] sli is like parrellel video cards? [15:08] yeah you pretty much put the power of two cards into one output [15:08] you can use dual monitors in winders with sli enabled [15:09] I bet sli makes gaming super detailed [15:10] I can't even remember what that's called... parallel computing... [15:13] *cluster* duh [15:13] * binarymutant had to look it up [15:16] binarymutant: i'm not for sure never got to use it! [15:17] on sli, i have on windows and it improves thigns but i have lower end cards [15:17] maybe games just aren't written for parallel gpu's yet :/ [15:18] it'll be forever until I get cards that I could that, I just now got a laptop with 2 processors in it lol [15:19] yeah I am generally on the blunt edge of technology [15:19] just can't afford cutting or bleeding edge [15:19] I'm on 10 years ago tech :P [15:20] not any edge, the handle lol [15:20] that can be painful :) [15:21] it's fun though, I get better speeds than most people with brand new computers :D [15:21] no bloat lol [15:21] haha [15:21] what are you running exactly binarymutant? [15:22] this laptop is a Latitude D630 [15:22] That is a solid laptop [15:22] yes [15:22] i meant os/desktop [15:23] yeah it is, it rocks [15:23] my desktop is a .. hng on [15:24] optiplex dimension 4700, but it's not used as a desktop anymore [15:24] it's just a file server these days [15:25] yeah those aren't bad machiens either think my moms computer maybe one of those actually [15:25] Linux on everything (of course) [15:25] of course, ubuntu? [15:25] debian/ubuntu yeah [15:25] cool [15:26] I don't switch distros like I did 10 years ago anymore, Debian is my work horse and if I need newer app versions I just compile it myself [15:26] lol my old dimension 4400 is my files server too [15:27] lol but they do the job really well [15:28] no need to get a new one yet [15:28] maybe the next decade :P [15:54] Still here? [15:55] of course :D [15:56] idk why my network kicks me off so much [16:03] now I must kill ppl [in UrbanTerror] [16:16] have fun binarymutant :) [17:29] and back [17:30] intense [17:31] whoa bitbucket does git now? that's pretty cool! github doesn't do hg yet lol [18:19] wb... again... binarymutant :P [19:07] Am I falling out of this chair? [19:12] no you are not [19:34] xpistos: lookss wobbly, maybe [19:37] greetings cyberanger [19:39] hey wrst [19:39] how are you doing cyberanger? [19:40] back [19:40] wrst: fyi, my arch install ... humming [19:40] wrst: well, lets just say it's simplier driving alone [19:41] flying down the pike with icewm installed [19:42] cool xpistos, it really flies if you set it up to :) [19:42] cyberanger: amen! [19:43] only three people in the car, and I've got 4 opinions on where to go, irritating [19:43] only one should matter, the driver [19:43] cyberanger: I got two words for you [19:43] Ejector [19:43] Seats [19:44] ha ha xpistos [19:45] xpistos: well, considering who the passengers are, and the owner of the car, I've got one work [19:45] backfire [19:45] ejecting your folks from your mom's car, not wise [19:46] i did actually consider chucking the gps out the window, but settled for shutting it up by disabling the route [19:48] I reseaarch where i'm going for twice as long as driving it takes, plan alternate routes [19:48] consider detours, construction [19:49] that gps doesn't factor that and can get confused as to what road your on, if there is a parellel road [19:49] not to metion the map software is 5 years old [19:51] on topp of that, they didn't want me driving in cinniniti, but this route bypasses it, only 5 miles of ohio between indina & kentuckey [19:52] * cyberanger notices my typing is real off, between bumpy road& this small keyboard, and not running spell check attm [19:54] wrst: so yeah, good, next year I go solo and leave the nag-a-tron at home [19:55] ha ha cyberanger [19:55] oh wait, I don't own a nag-a-tron, wonder why [19:58] I learned a long time ago what a nuicense these trips can be, hence why in june 2010 I outfitted with celluar internet to offset the annoyances [20:02] * cyberanger has nothing against GPS, satnav however, it's just one more distraction [20:02] binarymutant: "Bitbucket now rocks Git" [21:21] ya I got the email, pretty nifty [21:21] brb [21:33] pace_t_zulu: github doesn't do mercurial, so it's a +1 for bitbucket atm [21:35] ok idk what's going on with irc, I got logged off while playing UrT but in game stayed online... weird :/ [21:43] bitbucket should go ahead and do every version control software, it shouldn't be too hard [22:16] Well, I'm sure you could guess what I made to eat :P