[05:37] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:38] <superfly> morning Kilos!
[05:38] <superfly> Kilos: are you gonna keep me in your thoughts and prayers today? Today is most likely going to be a big day for me.
[05:38] <Kilos> yessir
[05:38] <Kilos> whats happening
[05:39] <superfly> lots of things that I can't speak freely about just yet
[05:55] <Kilos> Maaz, morning
[05:55] <Maaz> Hello Kilos
[05:55] <Kilos> Maaz, where's the coffee
[05:55] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[05:55] <Kilos> stupid bot
[05:55] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[05:55]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[05:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:59] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie man
[05:59] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[06:09] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:15] <Squirm> morning Kilos
[06:15] <Squirm> good bye
[06:17] <Kilos> huh
[06:17] <Kilos> goodbye is for a long time
[06:37] <Kilos> hi sakhi maiatoday 
[06:37] <maiatoday> 'lo Kilos
[07:57] <Kilos> hiya scar[w] morgs 
[07:58] <scar[w]> good morning Kilos :)
[08:01]  * scar[w] solved an ia32lib (symbolic) linking problem this weekend
[08:01] <Kilos> well done
[08:30] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:38] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[08:38] <Kilos> nog 15 mm en lelikke haal gisteraand
[08:38] <Kilos> maar die gras smile
[08:39] <inetpro> Kilos: eish, as ek na my tuin kyk dan wil ek huil
[08:39] <inetpro> my mielies is weg
[08:40] <Kilos> ja vrugte bome het heelwat skade
[08:40] <Kilos> vrugte en blare eintlik
[08:40] <Kilos> hulle sal weer opkom inetpro 
[08:40] <Kilos> en party dubble stamme
[08:41] <inetpro> en my arme sonneblomme is ook hard geslaan
[08:41] <Kilos> jy kon nog n goeie oes mmak daar
[08:41] <inetpro> en arbeie 
[08:41] <inetpro> en blaarslaai
[08:41] <inetpro> en blomkool
[08:41] <Kilos> ja
[08:42] <Kilos> daai een keer groente is weg
[08:42] <Kilos> maar aarbeie sal nou nog beter doen
[08:42] <inetpro> eish en die arme spinasie
[08:43] <inetpro> Kilos: ja ek hoop maar meeste van die goed gaan nog deurkom en beter doen
[08:43] <Kilos> spinasie maak nog so dis nie te sleg nie
[08:43] <inetpro> die mielies en sonneblomme was nog klein
[08:44] <Kilos> gee hulle paar weke en kyk hoe lyk hulle 
[08:44] <inetpro> dit was nou die ergste hael wat ek nog beleef het in Pretoria
[08:44] <Kilos> jy kan even tussen in nog pitte insit
[08:44] <inetpro> van 1990 af
[08:45] <Kilos> ja dit was nogal groot. ons kon niks hoor nie dit was so hard op die dak
[08:45] <Kilos> sink pllat dak lawaai kwaai
[08:45] <Kilos> plaat
[08:46] <inetpro> yikes
[08:46] <inetpro> dit was nogal erg vir my kindertjies wat nog nooit so iets beleef het nie
[08:46] <Kilos> lol maar haal is soliede stukstof
[08:46] <inetpro> :-)
[08:46] <Kilos> jy sal sien hoe groei die goed nou
[08:46] <inetpro> stukstof of stikstof?
[08:47] <Kilos> nitrogen
[08:47] <Kilos> daai goed
[08:47] <inetpro> lol... stikstof
[08:47] <Kilos> lol
[08:47] <inetpro> ja die gras gaan goed doen
[08:48] <inetpro> ek's bly ek was nie op die pad daai tyd nie
[08:48] <Kilos> ons is bly want gras was min vir skape . ons moes daagliks privet takke sny laat hulle die blare kon vreet
[08:49] <Kilos> ja
[08:49] <inetpro> sjoe
[08:49] <inetpro> privet takke?
[08:49] <Kilos> daai privet bome
[08:49] <Kilos> struike ek dink
[08:49] <inetpro> hmm... klink interessant.. moet uitvind watse bome dit is
[08:50] <Kilos> http://landscaping.about.com/od/hedgesfences/p/privet_hedges.htm
[08:51] <Kilos> skape lief daai blare en dit grooi ninnig
[08:51] <inetpro> ok
[08:52] <inetpro> dalk moet ek ook 'n skapie of twee aanhou
[08:54] <Kilos> hulle kan n pes wees as hulle by die blom tuin en groente kan kom
[08:55] <Kilos> maar skaap vleis is duur nou. so dit help die kombuis
[08:55] <Kilos> en baie siektes
[08:56] <Kilos> maar dis lekker om hulle te he, veral as daar n klomp lammers is
[08:56] <Kilos> hulle hou daarvan om 'king of the castle te speel'
[08:56] <Kilos> baie oulik
[08:59] <inetpro> king of the castle?
[09:00] <Kilos> lol hulle klim op goed en probeer mekaar af stamp tot net een oorbly
[09:00] <inetpro> yikes :-)
[09:00] <Kilos> baie oulik
[09:01] <Kilos> dis wat die boerdery lekker maak
[09:01] <Kilos> en hulle hol in groepies rond soos mal goed
[09:03] <Kilos> en dis eintlik snaaks. die lammers van een jaar loop na 5 jaar nog saam en roep as hulle mekaar nie naby sien nie
[09:03] <inetpro> Kilos: hoeveel skapies het jy daar?
[09:04] <Kilos> 8 nou
[09:04] <inetpro> sjoe
[09:04] <inetpro> ek's bly dat jy nou weer gras gaan hê
[09:04] <Kilos> laaste paar jaar was sleg gewees met siektes en slange wat ooie dood byt
[09:05] <inetpro> eish
[09:05] <Kilos> ja ons is baie bly
[09:06] <Kilos> o ja en diefstal
[09:06] <Kilos> skape verdwyn kersfees en nuwe jaar
[09:07] <inetpro> ai
[09:07] <Kilos> seker 7 in een jaar verloor 4 jaar terug
[09:07] <Kilos> 5 in een nag
[09:07] <inetpro> sjoe
[09:08] <Kilos> drade en heinings moet daagliks besoek en herstel word
[09:09] <Kilos> en dit maak nie saak of dit dragtige ooie is nie hulle gaan mos pot toe
[09:09] <Kilos> groot skade
[09:10] <Kilos> dis 7 jaar se lammers wat saam met elke ooi weg is
[09:10] <Kilos> moeilik om te boer
[09:11] <Kilos> maar lekker
[09:16] <Kilos> anyone heard from kbmonkey
[09:16] <Kilos> did he ever get to capetown
[10:31] <magespawn> howdy all
[10:31] <sakhi> Kilos: how is it going?
[10:32] <Kilos> hiya magespawn  well ty sakhi 
[10:32] <Kilos> and there
[10:33] <bmg505> hello
[10:33] <sakhi> good thanks
[10:33] <sakhi> hi magespawn 
[10:33] <bmg505> vee diewe is maklik om uit te sort, jy moet net 'n D9 op die plaas hou met 'n 6ft ploeg
[10:35] <bmg505> http://renaultsport.myfastforum.org/download/file.php?id=2787
[10:35] <bmg505> wonder of dit in ge photoshop is
[10:36] <bmg505> lyk soos jmpd op die westelike verby pad
[10:40] <magespawn> hi sakhi
[10:42] <Kilos> hi bmg505 
[11:11] <magespawn> hi kilos wb
[11:12] <Kilos> ty magespawn 20 sec power cut again
[11:12] <magespawn> where are you?
[11:13] <Kilos> just west of pretoria
[11:13] <magespawn> hmmm
[11:13] <magespawn> we seem to get almost every time it rains here.
[11:14] <Kilos> thats normally bad insulation probs
[11:14] <Kilos> old overhead cables
[11:15] <Kilos> here its as if someone trips the circuit breaker to see if it was on
[11:15] <Kilos> sometimes 4 or 5 times a day
[11:20] <magespawn> i thought everybody in a city ot near it would have underground cables.
[11:20] <Kilos> no we still have overheads
[11:21] <Kilos> and they get stolen every now and again
[11:21] <Kilos> 3ks at a time
[11:21] <Kilos> last time they didnt replace with copper. some new aluminium type
[11:22] <magespawn> do they work better?
[11:24] <Kilos> voltage the same but its to get away from copper because is like gold here
[11:25] <Kilos> we have had store rooms bust into and had all welding cables and extension cords stolen just for the copper
[11:26] <Kilos> even phones lines were stolen so often telkom refuses to replace
[11:28] <magespawn> the phone lines around here outside of the town are stolen all the time too.
[11:33] <Kilos> eish
[11:34] <Kilos> they gotta make it illegal to buy copper or it will never end
[15:07] <Kilos> aw i missed the monkey
[15:09] <Kilos> yay hiya kbmonkey 
[15:09] <Kilos> lol
[15:10] <Kilos> have you moved and settled in yet lad
[15:10] <Kilos> kbmonkey, ^^
[15:10] <kbmonkey> hello Kilos 
[15:11] <kbmonkey> yes kind of! I have been taking trains the past few days to get around
[15:11] <kbmonkey> how are you?
[15:12] <magespawn> guys how do i  upgrade from 6.10?
[15:13] <kbmonkey> are the .10's LTS releases? I think you can jump from one LTS to the next
[15:13] <kbmonkey> do you want to go to which version magespawn?
[15:14] <Kilos> eish make
[15:14] <Kilos> magespawn, 
[15:14] <kbmonkey> Kilos, I was at a vineyard yesterday ;D
[15:14] <Kilos> clean install
[15:14] <kbmonkey> beautiful. so beautiful there.
[15:14] <magespawn> 9.04 or 10.04 
[15:15] <magespawn>  do not really want to do a clean install
[15:15] <kbmonkey> that is quite a jump magespawn, if you do, i think it might be the first in Ubuntu history.
[15:15] <Kilos> or from one lts to next then next if i not mistook
[15:15] <Kilos> that nice kbmonkey 
[15:15] <Kilos> oh 9.04 not 6.04
[15:15] <Kilos> 6.10
[15:16] <kbmonkey> magespawn, is your /home on it's own partition?
[15:16] <Kilos> magespawn, you can rsync home to another drive
[15:16] <tumbleweed> kbmonkey: even-yeared 0.4 releases are LTS (since dapper)
[15:16] <magespawn> no idea do not think so. this not my pc let me check
[15:17] <tumbleweed> from 6.10, you have to upgrade one release at a time to 8.04, and can then jump to 10.04
[15:17] <tumbleweed> alternativly upgrade all the way in one go, and fix it up by hand
[15:17] <Kilos> whew
[15:17] <tumbleweed> or re-install
[15:18] <tumbleweed> actually better than all the way in one go, is to go via the LTSs. That way there'll be less to fix by hand
[15:19] <magespawn> looks like i can do a new install nothing to save
[15:19] <kbmonkey> you can save the list of installed apps if you need to reinstall the same ones on the new system too
[15:20] <magespawn> have done that before
[15:21] <Kilos> magespawn, do you have a stick handy
[15:21] <Kilos> usb storage device
[15:25] <magespawn> yes
[15:28] <Kilos> sudo rsync -av /home/ /media/backup/home/
[15:28] <Kilos> make a backup folder on the stick
[15:28]  * Symmetria has officially resigned from TENET 
[15:28] <Kilos> then reverse command once new installation done
[15:30] <Kilos> or a backup partition on the stick
[15:30] <Kilos> and now Symmetria 
[15:30] <Symmetria> moving to kenya!
[15:30] <Symmetria> :)
[15:30] <Symmetria> cause they got lions :P
[15:31] <Kilos> lol
[15:31] <Kilos> hi gandcnet1_ 
[15:32] <gandcnet1_> hi kilos this magespawn using my work pc
[15:32] <Kilos> lol
[15:32] <Kilos> did you get the rsync command magespawn 
[15:33] <Kilos> eish
[15:37] <magespawn> no but the owner has agreed to a new install says there is nothing to save
[15:37] <Kilos> oh nothing on home even 
[15:37] <Kilos> thats easy them
[15:38] <Kilos> then as well
[15:40] <magespawn> yes the pc was used by some one else who is not going to need it back
[15:42] <skarr> Symmetria: lions, tigers only in kenya :P
[15:42] <magespawn> when i was on as the other user i was showing the owner the channel.
[15:43] <Kilos> ah then clean install is fine magespawn 
[15:43] <Kilos> but weird the nothing to save
[15:44] <Kilos> skarr, you the same scar?
[15:45] <skarr> ja maar ek kruip nou weg vir die bots
[15:45] <Kilos> lol slim seun
[15:45] <magespawn> no tigers in kenya
[15:45] <Kilos> inna zoo
[15:47] <skarr> magespawn it's just an inside joke (based on an evil flash vid)
[15:47] <Kilos> lol
[15:47] <skarr> I'm sure google will find it for you, not sure if you want to watch it though
[15:49] <magespawn> no worries on my way home later all
[15:49] <Kilos> later
[16:13] <nlsthzn> o/
[16:13] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[16:13] <Kilos> you well?
[16:14] <nlsthzn> Kilos: OK thanks... and you?
[16:14] <Kilos> well ty 
[16:19] <kbmonkey> got dc a bit there
[16:19] <Kilos> lol
[16:22] <nlsthzn> hi kbmonkey , how is the Cape?
[16:23] <kbmonkey> its good nlsthzn :)
[16:23] <nlsthzn> Awesome to hear :)
[16:23] <Kilos> kbmonkey, go for a swim in the sea
[16:23] <kbmonkey> everything is new, high learning curve ;) everyone is so friendly, yay
[16:24] <Kilos> thats nice kbmonkey 
[16:24] <kbmonkey> was in camps bay yesterday, the water was _freeezing_ Kilos. no way I'll turn into a iceblock
[16:24] <Kilos> lol
[16:25] <Kilos> i went to sa footups champs there years ago and after a hard days riding we ran into the sea at gordons bay
[16:25] <Kilos> i only got to my knees
[16:26] <kbmonkey> bwha ha ha! I understand completely
[16:26] <kbmonkey> did magespawn get all right?
[16:26] <Kilos> they gonna clean install
[16:26] <Kilos> he says nothing to save
[16:28] <nlsthzn> That is the MS way :)
[16:28] <kbmonkey> also on a internet limit now Kilos. been using elinks browser mostly
[16:28] <Kilos> eish it sucks hey?
[16:28] <Kilos> no man a clean install 3 or 4 releases later is ok
[16:29] <Kilos> too much work to upgrade all the way
[16:29] <kbmonkey> and that is if you even have the discs to upgrade 
[16:29] <Kilos> and imho upgrades are slower than fresh installs
[16:29] <Kilos> yeah
[16:30] <Kilos> but you lucky now, you near maia and the fly
[16:30] <Kilos> and a few others
[16:32] <kbmonkey> this is true :)
[16:32] <nlsthzn> ah yes ok, i also prefer re-install above upgrade
[16:32] <kbmonkey> but further from nuvolari :(
[16:33] <Kilos> yay nlsthzn  i thought it was only me
[16:33] <Kilos> yeah the poor nuvolari 
[16:33] <Kilos> but now you can go to the releases at the stellies varsity and so on
[16:34] <Kilos> and the tumbler is close
[16:35] <Kilos> and the crash kid
[16:36] <Kilos> the cape is a good place for ubuntu users
[16:37]  * Kilos wonders what happened to queery
[16:38] <Kilos> kbmonkey, i actually asked the guys this morning if anyone has heard from you
[16:38] <Kilos> you didnt even let us know you there safe
[16:38] <Kilos> grrr
[16:41] <nlsthzn> Kilos: because your not on G+ ... the monkey is on there often...
[16:41] <Kilos> aw
[16:41] <Kilos> it eats too much data
[16:42] <Kilos> he will slow down there too now
[16:44] <kbmonkey> yes sorry about that Kilos! I have been offline for a while now since I got here
[16:44] <Kilos> you are forgiven
[16:44] <kbmonkey> but I managed to get a sim card now and have some airtime
[16:45] <kbmonkey> :D
[16:50] <Kilos> how do you spell scroomba that song?
[16:50] <Kilos> skrumba
[16:50] <Kilos> na
[16:51] <kbmonkey> lol
[16:54] <Kilos> skarumba
[16:54] <Kilos> maaz clever bot
[16:54] <Maaz> Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to serve
[16:54] <kbmonkey> he he
[16:54] <Kilos> lol
[16:58] <kbmonkey> I dont know how you do it with so little internet Kilos ;)
[16:58] <kbmonkey> i mean not little, but it goes so quick
[16:58] <Kilos> lol you stretch every meg
[16:59] <Kilos> mainly pidgin xchat and mail
[16:59] <Kilos> and evolution for mail, going to gmail eats
[17:00] <Kilos> and you fight with anyone that puts pics in their mails
[17:00] <Kilos> lol
[17:01] <Kilos> and you stay on maverick
[17:09] <kbmonkey> I have been using elinks for mail but its tricky at first
[17:28] <Kilos> you mean you got to the site with elinks kbmonkey 
[17:28] <Kilos> sorry i went to have supper
[17:29] <Kilos> evolution works kiff. just fetches new mail
[17:32] <kbmonkey> thats okay :)
[17:32] <kbmonkey> the ubuntu forums site?
[17:32] <kbmonkey> hmm well i have only had time for mail so far he he
[17:33] <Kilos> hehe
[17:33] <kbmonkey> and irc :)
[17:33] <Kilos> xchat uses about a meg or 1.5 meg a day
[17:34] <kbmonkey> im using vnstat to measure my data rates
[17:35] <Kilos> i use iftop and you can watch data disappearing
[17:35] <kbmonkey> lol!
[17:35] <kbmonkey> vnstat keeps monthy and daily records which is nice
[17:36] <Kilos> does it tell you what each app uses?
[17:36] <kbmonkey> no it does not, its only overall
[17:36] <Kilos> iftop shows while its going but then doesnt keep records i think
[17:36] <kbmonkey> but thus far using elinks is remarkably less than a gui browser
[17:37] <kbmonkey> oh that is good to know :)
[17:37] <Kilos> oh no i can see to where its going
[17:37] <Kilos> gives addresses
[17:37] <Kilos> freenode msn etc
[17:37] <Kilos> and ip addresses
[17:38] <kbmonkey> well i have to shoot again unfortunately. as you can see i cant spend much of long periods online yet :]
[17:38] <kbmonkey> il try be back for breakfast ;)
[17:38] <Kilos> ty for the visit
[17:38] <Kilos> go safe
[17:38] <Kilos> lol
[17:38] <Kilos> sleep tight
[17:39] <kbmonkey> go well everyone in irc world 
[17:39] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey 
[17:44] <Symmetria> heh
[17:44] <Symmetria> www.myadsl.co.za
[18:19] <Barco> Anyone have experience with Rdp Connections to Virtualbox on Ubuntu?
[18:32] <tumbleweed> don't see why that would be a problem (assuming you are using bridged networking, or have some otherway  to connect to services on the VM)
[18:56] <Squirm> has Symmetria resigned?
[18:56] <Squirm> although I don't think that's Symmetria :P
[18:56] <Kilos> he said so Squirm going to kenya
[18:57] <Squirm> so it is Symmetria, oh wow
[18:57] <Squirm> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/35170-tenet-cto-andrew-alston-resigns.html
[18:57] <Squirm> so I took at a stab in the dark, seeing he's the only person I know that works for TENET :P
[18:58] <Kilos> yeah its him
[18:59] <Kerbero> Symmetria: wtf
[18:59] <Kerbero> noooo
[19:01] <Barco> I'm using bridging and can ping the Ip but somehow cannot connect. Also consider it an easy setup usually
[19:02] <Barco> Just get this after a long time:   ERROR: 192.168.0.176: unable to connect
[19:12] <Symmetria> heh
[19:12] <Symmetria> squirm why didn you think it was me :P
[19:12] <Squirm> cause I don't know your name and I don't know what you look like
[19:12] <Squirm> and I had no idea what position you had :P
[19:13] <Symmetria> hehe 
[19:13] <Symmetria> well now ya know :)
[19:14] <Squirm> eh
[19:14] <Squirm> I do
[19:14] <Squirm> hope the Kenyans let you use the internet
[19:14] <Symmetria> heh kenyan internet isnt bad actually
[19:14] <Symmetria> and relatively cheap
[19:15] <Squirm> I do find South African internet to be of a low standard
[19:16] <Squirm> well, atleast for a consumer like myself
[19:16] <Squirm> maybe Kenya would be a better option
[19:18] <Squirm> "Life is too short to remove USB safely!"
[19:25] <Kilos> lo Tonberry 
[19:25] <Tonberry> hello
[19:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:47] <zeref> hi hi, anybody know if there will be a  joburg Oneiric Release Party?
[20:02] <Symmetria> LOL @ Dominic on myadsl
[20:17] <superfly> zeref: Are you on the Ubuntu-ZA mailing list?
[20:29] <zeref> nope
[20:30] <zeref> guess i join..
[20:30] <zeref> *i'll
[20:34] <Kerbero> Symmetria: in the case that you ever move out of your flat and their might be some hdd's and/or red wine laying around, i'll take it.
[20:34] <Kerbero> :P
[20:35] <Tonberry> lol Kerbero
[20:36] <Kerbero> wel hy het vir my rooiwyn belowe
[20:42] <superfly> zeref: I don't see anything on the list, but you might want to ask about it, and maybe it'll get the ball rolling
[20:48] <zeref> yeah
[20:49] <zeref> never been to a release party, even though been using ubuntu for a long time :P
[20:57] <zeref> unity mem leak??
[20:57] <zeref> lulz
[20:58] <Tonberry> what about it/them?
[20:58] <Tonberry> since i doubt its only one leak...