[00:00] <omido> Islam:  you can have both windows and linux . you dont have to install it using wubi in order to have windows too.
[00:00] <nac-godfather> unless you wanna deal with grub commands as a noob
[00:00] <wolfmitchell> Nvm I think I found it
[00:01] <TroN-0074> @qin Thank you
[00:01] <Islam> omido : aha cool, but what can I do know after installing and customizing all this things on here, its hard to reinstall all this !
[00:01] <Solved> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop, but no matter what version I try to install, it gives me two options: 1. Erase and use the whole disk or 2. Specify partitions manually (which I don't know how to do, and I do
[00:01] <wladston> can anyone help me to make a wpa connection using the 8192cu driver ?
[00:01] <Islam> omido: and by the way can I install ubuntu on a partition and takes all the space on it ?
[00:01] <nac-godfather> well I'm gonna play some GTAIV EFLC TBOGT before I go tackle a $70 Windows backup andclean install.
[00:01] <nac-godfather> Good luck
[00:01] <rodmena> hey
[00:02] <omido> Islam:  not so hard. imho it worths . you can upgrade your normally installed ubuntu at any time . like upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 . but i think in wubi you cant .
[00:02] <omido> Islam:  nope . you can shrink your partitions and use extended partitions . no need to remove a partition .
[00:03] <jjsam> It had "ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x4"
[00:03] <Islam> I mean can I install ubuntu on an empty linux partation ?
[00:05] <nac-godfather> yes, but make sure you put grub on the boot sector of that partition and then flag that partition active, and adjust your boot priority if also necessary.  You can always chainload your windows loader.
[00:05] <mouche> is there a way to add keyboard shortcuts in System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts via terminal?
[00:05] <Islam> there isnt a solve for my problem ?
[00:06] <nac-godfather> good luck.  Did you really just ask that like someone is going to google it for ya?
[00:06] <nac-godfather> what a jerk
[00:07] <MrZepeda_> what a jerk
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Islam: yes you can install to the empty parttion, you wil need an extra one for swap too
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> nac-godfather: not constructive
[00:08] <Islam> yeah I can handle that, but how actionparsnip
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Islam: i suggest you delete the partition, then boot to live CD and install to the free space. You say the partition is empty so there will be no data to destroy
[00:09] <Ibis> I'm so glad Ubuntu with a download link is at the top of google search with a download link. :3
[00:09] <Ibis> People would be lost trying to discover linux in general.
[00:09] <Islam> but I'll lose all the program and customization I did on this img I have already,
[00:09] <Islam> so you say the best way is to reinstall it ?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Islam: remember to MD5 test the iso
[00:11] <Islam> I dont know how
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[00:11] <MrZepeda_> anyone knows a quick fix to bring the brightness down. my eyes are burning.
[00:12] <xangua> MrZepeda_: use your function keys
[00:12] <Solved> MrZepeda: gamma
[00:12] <Ibis> MrZepeda_: Change monitor brightness? O_O
[00:12] <Islam> do I need to do the test ? I downloaded the iso from the ubuntu.com !
[00:13] <MrZepeda_> yeah like if I press the keys it decreases but the lower bound is not enough
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Islam: irrelevant, the data can be mangled in transit
[00:13] <MrZepeda_> *lowest
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Islam: the source doesn't matter any at all, as long as it passes md5 test, it is ok
[00:13] <Solved> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to install 11.04 on my new laptop, but it freezes randomly. My laptop is pretty fast, so I don't see why this is happening. Any ideas?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Solved: test ram is a good first step, as well as checking the cd for defects on the first scren
[00:14] <Rehan> guys is there any way to see if there's anything recoverable from a raid 0 setup that went bad?
[00:15] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Test ram...? Windows says its 5.7 GB
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Solved: no TEST, as in health
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: why not just use yur backups..
[00:16] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: a few files were not backed up (stupid I know)
[00:16] <Solved> ActionParsnip: How would I do that
[00:17] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: the backup happens 2x a week and some of that stuff didn't get backed up in between that interval
[00:17] <hdhzero> Rehan: does ddrescue help?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Solved: its in the first screen on the liveCD
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: dang, thats really unfortunate :(
[00:18] <Rehan> hdhzero: haven't tried anything yet. Its in a windows environment. Is ddrescue on an ubuntu live cd or ultimate boot cd? thanks for helping
[00:18] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: yeah i'm hoping i can undelete the stuff from another drive (that had it previously)
[00:18] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Try Ubuntu or Install?
[00:19] <bambanx> anyone know a good game mmorpg for ubuntu?
[00:19] <hdhzero> Rehan: I don't think ubuntu comes with it. You will have to install it
[00:20] <boam> hello i would like to know something ubuntu use open source driver for realtek ?
[00:20] <Solved> ActionParsnip: It didn't pass the Hash test thing D:
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Solved: then your ISO is bad and needs redownloading
[00:20] <Solved> ff
[00:20] <Solved> Alright
[00:20] <Solved> Thanks
[00:21] <Solved> ActionParsnip: One more question, do you recommend wubi or dual-boot
[00:21] <boam> i would like to talk to somewone that know about proprietary software anywone can help ?
[00:22] <boam> coz i heard ubuntu has like intention to go on kernel 3 :S
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Solved: dual boot is easier to fix and is not affected by the fragmentation in NTFS
[00:23] <boam> so anywone can help me about getting a true open source system ??
[00:23] <boam> like kick the proprietary crAp
[00:23] <hdhzero> boam: whats the problem with kernel 3?
[00:23] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Hm, Ok. Is there any guids online to partitioning your drive though? I have no idea how to do it in the installer
[00:24] <boam> proprietary crap inside kernel 3 my friend
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> boam: ask away
[00:24] <IdleOne> boam: use debian in that case
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> boam: kernel 3.0 isn't supported here
[00:24] <boam> open source is not open source anymore
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> boam: sure it is
[00:24] <boam> debian still has issue rely on proprietary shit too
[00:24] <boam> ...
[00:24] <IdleOne> boam: Please keep the langauge clean
[00:24] <xangua> boam: in the gnu web they mention distros that use linux 100% free
[00:24] <boam> all major distro did go bad
[00:25] <th0r> please don't feed the troll
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> boam: make your own then
[00:25] <smw> boam, there is no proprietary code in the plain kernel. Ubuntu adds some to make it work better with some hardware.
[00:25] <boam> lol
[00:25] <IdleOne> boam: This is the ubuntu support channel, if you need help with ubuntu please ask.
[00:25] <hdhzero> boam: this is a problem, because i believe sooner or later every distro will be using kernel 3
[00:25] <rww> Oh yay, everyone's wrong!
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> boam: either way, kernel 3 isnt supoprted here. I auggest you ask in #linux
[00:25] <boam> no
[00:26] <Islam> when I setup the new ubuntu without removing this one I'm using now ?
[00:26] <boam> they are mad at gnu i think
[00:26] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Hm, Ok. Is there any guids online to partitioning your drive though? I have no idea how to do it in the installe
[00:26] <Solved> r
[00:26] <rww> On the one hand, the upstream kernel contains proprietary firmware blobs that are non-Free. On the other hand, Debian does not contain proprietary software in its distribution.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Solved: are you running windows right now
[00:26] <rww> (contrib and non-free are not officially parts of the Debian distribution)
[00:26] <Solved> ActionParsnip: No, its in the installer
[00:27] <Solved> And the one im talking to you with is booted in ubuntu
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Solved: ok lets phrase it this way: is windows installed in the same system you intend to install ubuntu to
[00:27] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[00:27] <boam> i would like to find a driver from ubuntu but i am not on ubuntu anywone can help ?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Solved: which version?
[00:27] <smw> rww, they are firmware, so they run on special hardware and not the main cpu/ram?
[00:27] <boam> im searching rtl-8187se driver the open one
[00:27] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Its a brand new laptop, win 7
[00:27] <rww> smw: I believe so, yes. They're still non-free.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> boam: then you are not supported here if you are not using ubuntu
[00:28] <boam> i am on debian
[00:28] <boam> il get ubuntu if i need
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Solved: boot back to windows7 and you can use windows7 to resize it's own partition to make free space, you can then install ubuntu to the free space
[00:28] <boam> i need someowne to say to me where it is likely to be ?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> boam: then ask in #debian
[00:29] <boam> well im asking ubuntu since ubuntu has been the only distro to get this driver open
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> boam: which driver?
[00:29] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Do I have to get a program in windows?
[00:29] <IdleOne> boam: if the driver is open then all distros should be able to provide it.
[00:29] <Islam> ActionParsnip: how am I gonna remove this version of ubuntu I'm using now after installing the new one, or should I remove it first ?
[00:29] <boam> well stop arguing for nothing all im asking is u to show me wehere the drivers are ?
[00:29] <IdleOne> boam: ask in #debian
[00:29] <boam> like on an ftp.... ?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Solved: its in teh default install
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Islam: you can do either
[00:30] <carl_> does anyone know how to install VVVVVV?
[00:30] <boam> so there is no ftp where the ubuntu get synapse package ????
[00:30] <smw> boam, on linux you don't find drivers on the internet unless they are proprietary.
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> carl_: that's not a package
[00:31] <Solved> Islam: But You will lose space (about 40 GB, unless you resize afterwards)
[00:31] <IdleOne> boam: search on packages.ubuntu.com
[00:31] <Islam> how ?
[00:31] <carl_> vvvvvv the game from humble bundle 3
[00:31] <boam> there was one open i swear it was temporary the driver then got overwriten with the propretiery
[00:31] <boam> thx
[00:32] <IdleOne> carl_: buy it, seek support from vendor.
[00:32] <Solved> Islam: You have to use a live CD or something that allows you to edit your partitions
[00:32] <Solved> ActionParsnip: So, I'm in Disk Management. What now?
[00:32] <boam> well not a big help here more like 10 to 15 people arguing and saying obvious things that wont help
[00:32] <boam> wtf
[00:32] <Islam> I have the one I downloaded it from the ubuntu.com
[00:32] <IdleOne> !language | boam
[00:32] <Islam> how do I know if its a livecd
[00:32] <Solved> Islam: Burn it onto a disk
[00:33] <Islam> yeah I'm doing that right now
[00:33] <Solved> Islam: It is a live cd
[00:33] <Islam> thanx so much
[00:34] <Islam> so I have to install it from the boot not from windows, and with that I can keep the windows
[00:35] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Which Volume do I shrink? C: , HP_Tools , RECOVERY (D:) , or SYSTEM? I don't want to damage windows D:
[00:35] <roberto> gostaria de saber se alguem pode me ajudar em relação ao ubuntu e hd 2T externo?
[00:35] <Solved> Islam: If you want to have two seperate partitions for Windows and Ubuntu then yes you need to install it from boot
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Solved: id use system
[00:36] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Its the second smallest D:
[00:36] <Islam> thanx
[00:37] <Solved> ActionParsnip: C: Is the biggest, should I shrink that one?
[00:38] <xistanme> what's better arch or ubuntu
[00:38] <th0r> xistanme: arch
[00:39] <rww> xistanme: You're in #ubuntu, so of course Ubuntu. #archlinux would presumably say Arch.
[00:39] <andyvy> xistanme: personal preference, can't answer that. Arch is for more advanced users.
[00:39] <xistanme> what's the difference?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> xistanme: both are fine, they just have different goals and strengths, no distro is outright better than another
[00:40] <Solved> ActionParsnip: C: Is the biggest. Is it the one I should shrink?
[00:41] <IdleOne> xistanme: the difference is here we tell you to try and figure it out for yourself which you prefer, there they tell you to read thee manual.
[00:42] <andyvy> IdleOne: no, we say google, they say man pages. :)
[00:42] <aeon-ltd> IdleOne: not if you ask a question that could not be solved in under 5 mins of reading
[00:42] <qin> Sweet.
[00:42] <IdleOne> andyvy: we don't tell people to google :)
[00:42] <andyvy> IdleOne: right, we google for them.
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> the arch wiki is pretty extensive though, and in some ways better than the ubuntu wiki due to the large amount of changes ubuntu has had over the last few years
[00:43] <IdleOne> exactly, better to point someone to a specific link, if they could google it themselves they would have.
[00:44] <trew100> hi all
[00:44] <trew100> i nedd help
[00:44] <trew100> need*
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> ask away
[00:44] <Roberto_first> hi all
[00:45] <Roberto_first> I'm need help too
[00:45] <trew100> i wont install wibu
[00:45] <trew100> Only that the package repositories
[00:46] <IdleOne> !ask | with details
[00:46] <aeon-ltd> evryone who needs help just ask, but not if you've asked once in the last 30 mins
[00:46] <trew100> http://www.wibu.com/en/downloads-user-software.html
[00:46] <Roberto_first> i can open external hd seagate 2 T in ubuntu 10 and 11, how i'm need?
[00:46] <trew100> And their website does not provide download the required package
[00:47] <nronksr> Anybody know why the nfs-common portmap is so insecure?  strings /sbin/portmap | grep hosts only reports hosts_ctl...
[00:48] <nronksr> Or am I missing something I'm not seeing?
[00:48] <IdleOne> !br | Roberto_first
[00:49] <aeon-ltd> trew100: which package are you looking for there are debs in the link you posted
[00:49] <IdleOne> trew100: what are you trying to install?
[00:49] <Roberto_first> mto obrigado IdLeONe. bye.
[00:49] <IdleOne> aeon-ltd: probably a dependency issue. I am guessing
[00:49] <trew100> IdleOne: But is not downloading anything
[00:50] <IdleOne> trew100: tell me exactly what you are trying to download
[00:50] <IdleOne> what application?
[00:50] <trew100> IdleOne: http://www.wibu.com/en/downloads-user-software/downloads/showDownloadNotice/wkrt-lin64-60501-amd64-251.html
[00:51] <xangua> i just downloaded it trew100
[00:51] <trew100> xangua: It takes you?
[00:51] <IdleOne> trew100: it is not opening a window for you to click save package?
[00:51] <Rehan> guys I have a RAID0 setup that seems to have broken but apparently both member drives are still healthy. In GParted, one drive shows the entire space (1TB) as unallocated, whereas the other drive shows only 1.00 MB unallocated whereas the remaining space (931.51GB) is shown as unknown. Is there any way I can get the RAID to be functional again?
[00:52] <trew100> IdleOne: no
[00:52] <tareleurulz> Any of you ever download a iso via torrent and switch between windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10  and start the torrent in windows or Linux and have to start over
[00:52] <RyuGuns> Hi
[00:53] <improveupon> hi
[00:53] <trew100> IdleOne: That's what he gives mehttp://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/03/plasma-desktopRz1636.jpg
[00:53] <Krenair> tareleurulz, sounds like something to do with your client
[00:53] <trew100> http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/03/plasma-desktopRz1636.jpg
[00:54] <IdleOne> trew100: click on the link you gave us, it works
[00:55] <trew100> Strange, maybe someone blocking the Internet??
[00:55] <IdleOne> don't know.
[00:56] <tareleurulz> If you pick the same file path it should start up where it left off right.
[00:56] <trew100> IdleOne: Anyway thank you very much for all your help
[00:56] <trew100> :-)
[00:58] <trew100> IdleOne:
[00:58] <trew100> Ok I found the problem
[00:58] <trew100> Firefox for some reason did not give the site to download
[00:58] <FloodBot1> trew100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:59] <Islam> my wireless adapter doesnt work before I use the additional drive thing to download it through a wired connection, can I copy it now to use it in the new one ?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Islam: you can use the install cd to install what you need
[01:00] <Islam> thanx Actionparsnip
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> ZzZzZzZ: please dont
[01:01] <Rehan> guys I have a RAID0 setup that seems to have broken but apparently both member drives are still healthy. In GParted, one drive shows the entire space (1TB) as unallocated, whereas the other drive shows only 1.00 MB unallocated whereas the remaining space (931.51GB) is shown as unknown. Is there any way I can get the RAID to be functional again?
[01:01] <fowl> hello how do i get rid of this goofy scrollbar stuff: http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4025/hurr056.png    please dont tell me to change the theme. i've been there.
[01:02] <xangua> fowl: there is a post about that on the omg!ubuntu! blog
[01:02] <ScottyBoy> Hey, guys. I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a CD, and after clicking "Try Ubuntu" I just get a black screen.
[01:02] <Jeremy92> http://omgubuntu.co.uk/
[01:02] <ScottyBoy> Not sure what to do now.
[01:02] <xangua> search for overlay scrollbars fowl ;)
[01:04] <fowl> xangua: you have a beautiful soul. thank you.
[01:06] <d1zzY_> hello everyone =)
[01:06] <d1zzY_> is it possible to encrypt ubuntu after it has already been installed?
[01:06] <d1zzY_> Scenario: I have isntalled blackbuntu (ubuntu 10.10 for pentest) and i am trying to encrypt it..it is already installed, can i use a live cd to encrypt the HD (except /boot)
[01:11] <nac-godfather> why leave an opening?
[01:12] <nac-godfather> might nullify the encryption all together, especially if an outsider root's your /boot
[01:12] <nac-godfather> booya!
[01:13] <Pcd2> getting a startup error "mountall:  Disconnected from Plymouth"
[01:13] <Pcd2> what is Plymouth?  everything appears to be functional.  no issues that i can witness.
[01:13] <Pcd2> thoughts?
[01:15] <d1zzY_> nac-godfather, i didnt know you could encrypt boot?
[01:16] <Pcd2> getting a startup error "mountall:  Disconnected from Plymouth"
[01:16] <Pcd2> what is Plymouth?  everything appears to be functional.  no issues that i can witness.
[01:16] <Pcd2> thoughts?
[01:17] <zruty> How can I tellt he speed of one of my network interfaces?
[01:18] <d1zzY_> zruty, speedtest.net ?
[01:18] <improveupon> i need to install broadcom bcm4322 wireless driver, but need to download to windows then copy over & install. what would be the address for the right packages?
[01:18] <Pcd2> www.speakeasy.net/speedtest
[01:18] <d1zzY_> can i encrypt ubuntu after it's installed? I installed blackbuntu (ubuntu 10.10 for pentesting) and i am trying to encrypt because the option isn't available via the installer
[01:18] <d1zzY_> i have a livecd in rihgt now
[01:19] <mouche> zruty: sudo mii-tool -v
[01:19] <jxshxx> How-do!  Lost sound on my Lucid box.  Please help!
[01:19] <zruty> d1zzY_:  No I mean my network interface, not my internet...
[01:20] <MonkeyDust> improveupon: maybe this link helps http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[01:20] <improveupon> thank  you
[01:20] <selite> After reboot my upper and lower panels are missing? Can anyone please help me?
[01:20] <zruty> mouche: That looks like just what I was looking for... Thanks!
[01:20] <Pcd2> network interface.  ok.  possibly copying a large file from another LAN connected machine and averaging the speed?
[01:20] <Pcd2> not sure of a utility.
[01:20] <rhcp[linux]> Hey guys, question. Any of you ever have this issue? When you leave 11.04 up awhile (desktop) the unity (hide/unhide) bar goes under the apps open? and it wont show unless you move the app to the right?
[01:21] <rhcp[linux]> like it wont show ON TOP
[01:21] <selite> After rebooting my upper taskbar and lower taskbar are missing? Any help
[01:21] <Pcd2> zruty, does that seem reasonable or do you have other ideas?
[01:22] <selite> After rebooting my upper taskbar and lower taskbar are missing? Any help
[01:22] <DocPlatypus> selite: on a laptop? have a monitor plugged in?
[01:23] <Pcd2> selite, i can't recall the method, but you can google "restore ubuntu panels" or the like.
[01:23] <selite> DocPlatypus: Yeah on a laptop. I installed updates and it is shitting me ever since.
[01:23] <Pcd2> wish i had the exact advice.
[01:23] <selite> Pcd2: After few reboots the panels are back then the icons are missing.
[01:23] <zruty> Pcd2: I am testing cables and hubs, their speed connections, and so .. while yours is a practical test, what mouche just said seems a more theoretical one. The interfaces and whatever decide on a speed - that is a start. Then, your test may prove actual speed...
[01:24] <qin> !reset-panel | selite If it is not unity.
[01:24] <qin> !reset-panel | selite
[01:25] <selite> qin: The command does not exist.
[01:25] <qin> !resetpanel
[01:25] <DocPlatypus> selite: ok... I had this happen to a friend. but he was plugging into an external monitor
[01:25] <rhcp[linux]> anyone? ideas with my issue? :)
[01:25] <DocPlatypus> and his "main" desktop was showing up there.
[01:25] <Pcd2> selite, yeah, that's what i've done to determine the exact speed of both my LAN and WLAN interfaces.
[01:26] <selite> DocPlatypus: I didn't plug any external monitor and this is really frustrating.
[01:28] <d1zzY_> lol
[01:28] <d1zzY_> seems like everybody asks questions but nobody answers?
[01:28] <d1zzY_> lol
[01:29] <rhcp[linux]> Yea, its a #freenode thing
[01:29] <rhcp[linux]> pretty much
[01:29] <Pcd2> dizzy, what's your question.  not sure i can help.
 Hey guys, question. Any of you ever have this issue? When you leave 11.04 up awhile (desktop) the unity (hide/unhide) bar goes under the apps open? and it wont show unless you move the app to the right?
[01:29] <rhcp[linux]> too lazy to re-type
[01:30] <Pcd2> rhcp[linux], wish i could help but i don't use Unity at all.
[01:30] <rhcp[linux]> Pcd2, what do you use on 11.04?
[01:30] <rhcp[linux]> or are you on 10.X?
[01:30] <Pcd2> rhcp[linux] i use Gnome Classic from the GDM menu.
[01:30] <rhcp[linux]> ah
[01:30] <Pcd2> 11.04
[01:30] <rhcp[linux]> I tried gnome3 (it didnt like my nvidia)
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> rhcp[linux]: you have the dodge hide setting enabled in ccsm
[01:31] <rhcp[linux]> went back to unity
[01:31] <rhcp[linux]> ActionParsnip, where is that? I never touched it
[01:31] <Pcd2> rhcp[linux] i've stayed completely away from the new Unity and Gnome 3 stuff.
[01:31] <rhcp[linux]> it randomly does this
[01:31] <rhcp[linux]> would be appricated to know where :)
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> rhcp[linux]: in ccsm, unity plugin settings
[01:31] <rhcp[linux]> so i can fix this crap
[01:31] <rhcp[linux]> it's in settings?
[01:31] <jimcooncat> I want to try out kexi on my underpowered maverick-gnome machine. Will I regret installing all these kde dependancies? Will I be auto-loading bunches of services on startup I'd only use for one program?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> jimcooncat: shouldn't do
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> rhcp[linux]: press SuperL and type: ccsm
[01:33] <rhcp[linux]> what is superL?
[01:33] <jimcooncat> ActionParsnip, is there a simple way to explore that program outside of a fresh installation (which I'd do), like a chroot?
[01:33] <rhcp[linux]> rhcp@root:/mnt/storage/android/charge$ ccsm
[01:33] <rhcp[linux]> Another CCSM instance already running
[01:34] <rhcp[linux]> can i just kill -HUP it?
[01:34] <Pcd2> superL is a graphical interpreter for Perl.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> jimcooncat: could virtualize to test
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> rhcp[linux]: don't run ccsm as root, it will set roots compiz settings which you don't want. run it as your user to change your user
[01:35] <d1zzY_> Pcd2
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> rhcp[linux]: I guess so, sure
[01:36] <d1zzY_> I am trying to encrypt ubuntu 10.10(blackbuntu to be exact)..it is already installed...the option was not available through the installer..can i use cryptsetup through the commandline on a live cd??
[01:36] <jimcooncat> Thanks, ActionParsnip, I guess I'll vnc to my bigger work machine that has vbox on it. Appreciate you saving me from doing something stupid.
[01:36] <rhcp[linux]> ActionParsnip, I see the doge thing in the settings on the plugin
[01:36] <rhcp[linux]> do i need to change it to something? or what?
[01:37] <RockMeAmadeus> i haven't seen jeremy live in 2 weeks
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> rhcp[linux]: ok, change that and it will hide in the style you choose
[01:37] <RockMeAmadeus> beg your pardon, wrong #
[01:37] <rhcp[linux]> ActionParsnip, I know how it works.
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> RockMeAmadeus: jeremy kyle?
[01:37] <rhcp[linux]> ive never touched it.
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> rhcp[linux]: have a play, see which setting you prefer
[01:37] <rhcp[linux]> the problem is. When i leave my session active for a week or two. It hides UNDER all my apps
[01:38] <rhcp[linux]> and i cant get it to show ONTOP of them
[01:38] <rhcp[linux]> its like some weird bug
[01:38] <rhcp[linux]> its like 'always on top' is not set
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> rhcp[linux]: is there a 'unity is always ontop of everything' setting
[01:38] <rhcp[linux]> i have no idea
[01:39] <rhcp[linux]> hence why im asking here
[01:39] <rhcp[linux]> :)
[01:39] <sec> somebody knows if is possible fix the tearing effect on the second display (different resolution at first monitor)? I use 2 monitors (1920x1200 and 1920x1800) on a nvidia card and nvidia drivers activated on ubuntu 11.04 64bits. When I play a movie in the first monitor, work fine but in second monitor I've tearing effect (I think that is problem of vsync, but I've activated vsync in nvidia-settings and compiz-settings). Is possible fix it? In other OS the 
[01:40] <d1zzY_> I am trying to encrypt ubuntu 10.10(blackbuntu to be exact)..it is already installed...the option was not available through the installer..can i use cryptsetup through the commandline on a live cd??
[01:42] <theadmin> d1zzY_: We don't support derivatives
[01:43] <bkfitz> any ufw/iptables experts around... for some reason after running sudo ufw allow 5432 (for postgres), the port is still showing closed when i run nmap
[01:45] <bkfitz> slow night eh
[01:46] <Corey> bkfitz: What does netstat -ant |grep 5432 say?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> diytto: blackbuntu isn't supported here
[01:47] <bkfitz> Corey: three listings one says LISTEN, other two say ESTABLISHED
[01:47] <Corey> bkfitz: HUmor me, pastebin it please.
[01:47] <d1zzY_> I am trying to encrypt ubuntu 10.10..it is already installed...the option was not available through the installer..can i use cryptsetup through the commandline on a live cd??
[01:47] <bkfitz> Corey sure
[01:47] <bkfitz> http://pastebin.com/hGAjpNZi
[01:47] <rhcp[linux]> thanks. I fixed it myslef
[01:47] <rhcp[linux]> l8r
[01:47] <Pcd2> d1zzY_ i think encryptfs is the route you're looking for.  not entirely sure.
[01:48] <d1zzY_> ahh i found a hak5 forum post w/ ubuntu 10.04
[01:48] <d1zzY_> thank you though
[01:48] <d1zzY_> ill look into it
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> d1zzY_: connect to irc.foonetic.net and join #Blackbuntu   for suppoer
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> *support
[01:49] <bkfitz> Corey: ip is 66.228.57.208
[01:49] <bkfitz> linode box
[01:49] <d1zzY_> ActionParsnip, i was there, the room was empty..i tried BlackBuntu and blackbuntu...2nd b is little?
[01:50] <theadmin> d1zzY_: IRC isn't case sensetive
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> d1zzY_: we only support canonical official releases here, nothing else
[01:50] <d1zzY_> i changed it to just 10.10
[01:50] <bkfitz> Corey: here is the ufw status as well: http://pastebin.com/YwamxaYm
[01:50] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Hm, I wonder, has Lubuntu been granted that privelege of "officialness" now?
[01:50] <Pcd2> what is Plymouth in Ubuntu???????
[01:50] <Corey> bkfitz: You're only binding to localhost.
[01:50] <theadmin> Pcd2: Bootsplash thing
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: its official as of Oneiric afaik
[01:51] <Pcd2> makes sense.  bootsplash does nothing.
[01:51] <bkfitz> Corey:    :| what does that mean
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Pcd2: its the gui spash thing at startup and a few underlying things
[01:51] <Pcd2> ok.  explains why not connecting to it affects nothing serious.
[01:51] <Corey> bkfitz: Postgres isn't listening to external interfaces.
[01:51] <mouche> how can I set apt to use the "best server" via terminal? I recall an old application called mirrorselect but it's not in the repos
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-Makes-Lubuntu-Official-Derivative
[01:52] <theadmin> mouche: I think you're messing something up, mirrorselect is an Arch tool... Unless it works with debian repos too, doubt it
[01:52] <bkfitz> Corey: you mean in my pg_hba
[01:52] <Ibis> mouche: How about just use... ISPConfig on ubuntu-server?
[01:52] <bkfitz> COrey: i think i have allow all
[01:52] <Corey> bkfitz: I mean postgres isn't configured to bind to any external IPs, only localhost.
[01:53] <bkfitz> Corey: is that something I can set in hba conf
[01:53] <mouche> theadmin: ah ok.
[01:53] <timnuxlin> .
[01:53] <mouche> Ibis: ok, I'll look into that.
[01:54] <Corey> bkfitz: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/PostgreSQL/Install#Settings_External_Connections
[01:54] <timnuxlin> !de | Corey
[01:54] <bkfitz> Corey: i have      local all all trust in the pg_hba... but I think that only applies to permissions to connect, not bindings yes
[01:54] <Corey> timnuxlin: Yes?
[01:54] <Ibis> mouche: ISPconfig has a simple straight forward  "spoonfeed me" awesome server set up tutorial. http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-11.04-ispconfig-3
[01:55] <Corey> timnuxlin: I'm reasonably certain I haven't said anything in german lately. :-)
[01:55] <Ibis> I love ISPconfig. Makes my life easy.
[01:55] <bkfitz> Corey: ahh... thx.  didn't realize there was such a setting.
[01:55] <d1zzY_> i think i'll be going w/ TrueCrypt and do my /home partition
[01:56] <danko8321> Hello, anyone knows how to configure a Xmodmap File?
[01:57] <mouche> Ibis: hm, I'm looking up to just change the mirror apt downloads packages from.
[01:57] <mouchebag> guys will ubuntu ever support nvidia properly it seems like they never will
[01:57] <bkfitz> Corey: so my "listen_addresses" was commented out... default must be localhost or local subnet or something
[01:57] <tbruff13> yes can someone help me i would like to know what packages ubuntu 10.04 has that allows it to have iphone and ipod support
[01:57] <hoverbear> mouchebag: Nvidia cards work fine unless you have a really exotic setup
[01:57] <mouchebag> hoverbear I wish
[01:57] <andyvy> mouche: nvidia support is far better then ATI too
[01:57] <Jordan_U> mouchebag: Do you have a specific problem you'd like help with?
[01:58] <mouchebag> hoverbear they dont even come close to working fine with it
[01:58] <Jordan_U> !details | mouchebag
[01:58] <hoverbear> mouchebag: I get higher FPS in linux on ET:QW then I do on windows. :-P
[01:58] <theadmin> d1zzY_: Bad idea, home needs to be mounted at startup...
[01:58] <mouchebag> Jordan_U yea i do
[01:58] <tbruff13> yes can someone help me i would like to know what packages ubuntu 10.04 has that allows it to have iphone and ipod support
[01:58] <theadmin> d1zzY_: And with TC you can't really do that
[01:58] <hoverbear> tbruff13: Apple changes their protocols more then we change socks. Which device/gen?
[01:58] <theadmin> tbruff13: I think Rhythmbox does that for some devices
[01:58] <mouchebag> Jordan_U no matter what linux distro I try ubuntu included the video card doesn't get detected properly and my computer goes into a black screen after I log into my user account
[01:59] <danko8321> None?
[01:59] <mouchebag> jordan_U it's really silly I don't get why , it makes me not able to use linux for what i want to , which is primarily visual reasons such as films shows etc
[01:59] <theadmin> mouche: Try selecting "Classic" in the Session menu at the login screen
[01:59] <rww> !mintsupport | danko8321
[01:59] <Jordan_U> mouchebag: Is this before or after installing the proprietary drivers from the "Additional Drivers" tool?
[01:59] <hoverbear> mouchebag: I like how you're not telling us which card you have. :-P
[01:59] <bkfitz> Corey: thx again.  learn something everyday.  Now in netstat I see :::*    :)
[01:59] <mouchebag> Jordan_U:  after
[01:59] <bkfitz> Corey: and the port is open from the outside
[01:59] <theadmin> mouche: Well, then don't use propertiary drivers -__-
[02:00] <theadmin> mouchebag: *
[02:00] <Ibis> hoverbear: You try and tell me that then. nvidia at this time of writing doesn't work properly in Ubuntu 11.04 when using Unity. In fact, I do not think I can do any 3D.
[02:00] <Jordan_U> mouchebag: Can you login to a failsafe session after installing the drivers?
[02:00] <karpar> HI, folks. Is there anyone who use autossh together with upstart?
[02:00] <theadmin> mouche: Sorry, mistab
[02:00] <mouchebag> hoverbear: does it matter? nobody else can fix it but I'll tell you it's 9700m gt
[02:00] <Ibis> (well, not tell me, but spoonfeed me until nvidia works properly :D)
[02:00] <mouchebag> Jordan_U:  yea i can
[02:00] <hoverbear> Ibis: My desktop with an old 8800 runs ETWQ on linux at high at 60 fps, windows hits 47.
[02:00] <hoverbear> mouchebag: Is that an optimus card?
[02:00] <tbruff13> hoverbear: ipod touch 4
[02:01] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  no nvidia GeForce
[02:01] <jxshxx> Can anyone help get my sound back on in Lucid?  Be my hero!
[02:01] <hoverbear> tbruff13: Try a vm with a windows install :-P
[02:01] <Jordan_U> mouchebag: OK. Please do that and pastebin the output of "glxinfo" ? (installing glxinfo if it's not already installed).
[02:01] <Corey> !sound | jxshxx
[02:01] <Ibis> hoverbear: Still doesn't tell me that I can use nvidia Geforce 5xxx with Ubuntu Unity..
[02:01] <mouchebag> Jordan_U:  well i'm on a fresh install at the moment where I didn't install the proprietary driver yet because i knew it would crash
[02:01] <hoverbear> mouchebag: Yes but is it your only gpu in the laptop? Or is it a new one with optimus technology and/or gpu switching?
[02:01] <tbruff13> hoverbear: why can ubuntu 10.04 work but not the newest ubuntu
[02:01] <mouchebag> Jordan_U:  so i don't know should I download the proprietary and then do that ?
[02:01] <hoverbear> Ibis: Unity is garbage? :-P
[02:02] <mouchebag> hoverbear : I don't know , it's from 2008 if that helps clarify
[02:02] <hoverbear> tbruff13: If the old ubuntu works the new one should too :-P
[02:02] <Jordan_U> mouchebag: Yes. (using the official Ubuntu "Additional Drivers" tool).
[02:02] <Ibis> hoverbear: Unity is the best thing since sliced bread! :U Are you mad!?!?!?
[02:02] <hoverbear> Ibis: Best thing since moldy sliced bread maybe :-P
[02:02] <theadmin> Ibis: Probably half of us are mad then
[02:02] <mouchebag> hoverbear: on nvidia .com it talks about having somethign to dow with switching between modes for different picture quality
[02:02] <theadmin> Ibis: Most of people consider Unity a piece of trash, same for Gnome3 actually
[02:02] <tbruff13> hoverbear: it doesn't i am running mint now but i tried ubuntu 10.10 and 11
[02:03] <mouchebag> Unity is very bad because it is a graphics hog
[02:03] <Ibis> theadmin: Yea, but most didn't seem to evolved to such a new way.
[02:03] <roasted_> Is it possible that having 2 monitors in twinview that have different refresh rates (59hz vs 60hz) is causing my video tearing?
[02:03] <mouchebag> Jordan_U:  so what do you think
[02:03] <Ibis> mouchebag: It seems to work better than Ubuntu Classic, since it doesn't have metacity to bloat up the use of memory.
[02:03] <hoverbear> mouchebag: Right, so you have an optimus GPU, which nvidia has explicitly stated they will not support on linux. Please send them a complaint.
[02:04] <Jordan_U> mouchebag: I think I need more information.
[02:04] <mouchebag> hoverbear: oh did they really say that, i'll check for sure if it's optimus as you say
[02:04] <mouchebag> hoverbear: thing is they provide the driver for the card on tehir official website, for Linux
[02:04] <matthew> really?
[02:04] <mouchebag> hoverbear: so I dont know if you're right
[02:04] <hoverbear> mouchebag: Yeah make sure it's optimus.
[02:04] <Ibis> On my next computer, I'm not buying from anyone that will not support Linux. Period.
[02:05] <hoverbear> mouchebag: BTW, I have an optmius card, I just use my intel chipset to do graphics and use the nvidia card in windows
[02:05] <theadmin> Ibis: Heh, good luck with that. Just in case you want to know, my Samsung R525 works perfectly :P And it has an AMD graphics card so that's weird
[02:05] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  wait how do you do that
[02:05] <hoverbear> mouchebag: I turn it off in bios
[02:05] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  I need to be able to use this OS for watching high quality vids
[02:06] <mouchebag> hoverbear:   how do you do that though ? i forget whats bios again
[02:06] <Ibis> theadmin: Well, I mean in terms of hardware not working on Linux.
[02:06] <hoverbear> mouchebag: The newest intel chips (I dunno if it's what you have) push 1080p no sweat
[02:06] <Ibis> But I'm sure some companies out there don't mind giving us freebies.
[02:07] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  I can output 1080p through HDMI when I use windows with this
[02:07] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  it's just linux having the problems
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: different OS, different supoprt
[02:07] <mouchebag> hoverbear: my comp has an intel sticker so are you saying it has 2 cards inside of it ? wow
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: oh jeez, is it one of those hybrid gpu things
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> ?
[02:07] <hoverbear> mouchebag: No I'm not sure if that's optimus or not
[02:07] <mouchebag> hoverbear: not card but chipset
[02:08] <mouchebag> hoverbear: no nevermind what I just said I was confusing myself
[02:08] <hoverbear> ActionParsnip: i have one of those, they suck imo
[02:08] <mouchebag> hoverbear: I dont have hybrid GPU lol
[02:08] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  I dont lol
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: never heard a success story with them
[02:08] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  no what i have is probably the same as you, mine is a nvidia card for sure
[02:08] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  and ith as an intel sticker I guess thats the chipset you're talking about
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: is it a laptop or a desktop?
[02:08] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  how do I make my linux use it ?
[02:08] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  It's a desktopreplacement laptop
[02:08] <Ibis> theadmin: Why do you not like Unity by the way? I like it for a few reasons. The most being it's revolutionary change of removing the traditional task bar, and sticks it on the left side of the screen to only appear when I need it.     And then making top menu bar reserved strictly for Notifications, and menus from any program I run.
[02:09] <hoverbear> ActionParsnip: I've got it working in linux actually, just terrible performance
[02:09] <mouchebag> hoverbear:  how do I make the linux OS use the intel chipset , like you're doing ?
[02:09] <hoverbear> Ibis: Gnome3 is better :-p
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: what make and model?
[02:09] <hoverbear> mouchebag: BIOS might work
[02:09] <theadmin> Ibis: I did the same thing with my XFCE. Still works faster and better.
[02:09] <mouchebag> hoverbear: how do I do that I dont know what BIOS is is that the first screen you see when the computer turns on ,like without any OS
[02:09] <Ibis> hoverbear: I'm waiting for 11.10 when that gnome 3 shall be available.
 Ibis: Gnome3 is better :-p
[02:09] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  Toshiba qosmio x300
[02:09] <Krenair> Have you ever tried using more than 1 monitor with gnome 3, hoverbear ?
[02:10] <hoverbear> mouchebag: I can't tell you because I don't know. :-p
[02:10] <Ibis> theadmin: But it may not contain the same tools though.
[02:10] <hoverbear> Krenair: Nope but I imagine it's better then unity :-P
[02:10] <mouchebag> hoverbear: Oh if you don't know how did you do it yourself then ??
[02:10] <hoverbear> mouchebag: Different machine
[02:10] <mouchebag> hoverbear: but can you tell me how you did it for your own and I can see if mine compares to being similar
[02:10] <celltech> WINE can run mac itunes?
[02:10] <hoverbear> celltech: no only windows apps
[02:11] <Ibis> celltech: Ask in #winehq
[02:11] <celltech> What can run mac apps?
[02:11] <hoverbear> mouchebag: Sure press thinkvantage within .5 seconds in boot then just go to devices and display
[02:11] <hoverbear> celltech: A mac? A vm?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> celltech: Only OSX.
[02:11] <celltech> I'm trying to get a version of iTunes that works
[02:11] <hoverbear> celltech: Apple is notoriously garbage with support for anything else
[02:11] <hoverbear> celltech: Use windows itunes if you must
[02:11] <celltech> I can't get wine to use it
[02:11] <hoverbear> Then use something else
[02:11] <hoverbear> Or a VM
[02:12] <roasted_> Is it possible that having 2 monitors in twinview that have different refresh rates (59hz vs 60hz) is causing my video tearing?
[02:12] <celltech> I would but I have a VM issue with the drivers for my usb
[02:12] <hoverbear> roasted_: Very likely
[02:12] <celltech> when the phone restarts, it kicks out the drivers till I manually reconnect it
[02:12] <celltech> that I can't have
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> celltech: banshee and rhythmbox can put data on the device
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> celltech: there is also ifuse which you may be able to mount the device with.
[02:13] <celltech> Don't need data.. banshee is AMAZING btw. I need to downgrade myphone and jail break this thing
[02:13] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  Is it illegal to sell Ubuntu install CDs? Because this store near where I live sells them for $50 each
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> celltech: you could make the device decent and put rockbox on it, then it will be vastly easier but apple garbage only plays nice with windows or other apple garbage
[02:13] <hoverbear> celltech: Should have just got an android :-P
[02:13] <hoverbear> mouchebag: Nope it's legal
[02:13] <celltech> never
[02:14] <celltech> I hate android
[02:14] <s0nicfreak> Hello
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: you can sell them at the cost of CD + time, you cannot charge for the product itself
[02:14] <hoverbear> celltech: More then you hate being silently tracked and having a middleman to your apps?
[02:14] <mouchebag> hoverbear: how is it legal ? hes making profit on disks he made for 5 cents probably
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> celltech: there are more than 2 mobile device OSes
[02:14] <celltech> Yep. I love my iphone
[02:14] <hoverbear> k
[02:14] <orangesea> hello
[02:14] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  he is charging for the product, he just makes the CDs in the backroom of the store after buying like a $20 stack of disks
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> celltech: if you use virtualbox closed source version you will get native usb access
[02:14] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  theyre even unlabeled
[02:15] <s0nicfreak> Does anyone know what these errors are (not the ata stuff) http://i.imgur.com/a23dX.jpg
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: thats fine, then you have electricity for burning which is fine
[02:15] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  what do you mean lol
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: I'd give them away, considering the price
[02:16] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  he sells them for $50 each disk
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: well its your electricity you are using, so you can charge for that
[02:16] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  alongside windows he sells
[02:16] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  Iol wow that's weird
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: its not his to sell
[02:16] <mouchebag> ActionParsnip:  i know that's why I was thinking it would be illegal
[02:16] <roasted_> hoverbear, why do you say that?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> mouchebag: it is illegal
[02:16] <excelsior> The point is a legal technicality. I could sell them for $100,000 a disk. The point is that I'm not selling a license for use, I'm just selling the disk they're on.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: You are wrong about not being able to charge for the product itself. Such a prohibition against chargning money, even for a profit, would go against most definitions of Free Software.
[02:16] <hoverbear> roasted_: Why do I say what?
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: but surely its not his to sell
[02:18] <Flannel> Jordan_U, mouchebag, ActionParsnip: Can we take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please?  Thanks.
[02:19] <mouchebag> Flannel: He also sells flannel shirts
[02:19] <saulotoledo> Hello! How can I install lightdm in my language? I have only english here
[02:20] <roasted_> hoverbear, I was just curious if you had any technical reasoning behind it because it seems like that's my issue but I'm trying to understand it more.
[02:20] <hoverbear> roasted_: Behind what? :-P
[02:20] <roasted_> hoverbear, behind separate monitors having different refresh rates causing video tearing.
[02:21] <hoverbear> roasted_: Well it'd only assumingly happen when transfering across monitors but it shouldn't be noticable
[02:21] <roasted_> hoverbear, well, it is
[02:22] <roasted_> hoverbear, I've dealt with video tearing for the last... 7 years? and each time I've had different computers and each time I've had video tearing. however I've ALWAYS used the same monitors.
[02:22] <roasted_> hoverbear, and the vsync settings and all of that has done NOTHING for me. nothing.
[02:22] <hoverbear> Huh
[02:22] <roasted_> hoverbear, but someone asked me what refresh rates my monitors are. one is 60, one is 59. and he said that's EXACTLY what his issue was because he faced the same thing I did.
[02:22] <darthmom> hallo
[02:23] <roasted_> hoverbear, he said that video cards see twinview'd linux monitors as 1, so both of my monitors are seen as one, and as a result different refresh rates can cause weirdness
[02:23] <hoverbear> Can you change the rates?
[02:23] <roasted_> I don't believe so
[02:23] <roasted_> he said it's dictated by the monitor hardware
[02:23] <roasted_> however on newegg I found a monitor that said the refresh rate was 49-75, which made me think it was variable
[02:23] <hoverbear> Yeah it should be
[02:23] <darthmom> java issues are occuring
[02:24] <simpleblue> why does codeblocks let you add a class and then say it cannot find the header * sigh * :(
[02:24] <darthmom> java just doesn't work. I have been trying to fix this for a couple days
[02:25]  * simpleblue throws codeblocks in the garbage
[02:25] <simpleblue> going to try qt creator
[02:26] <simpleblue> geany has the same problem
[02:27] <theadmin> simpleblue: Well I'm glad I don't code C then xD
[02:27] <simpleblue> lol :p
[02:27] <simpleblue> sorry for ranting. just a little frustrated
[02:29] <theadmin> wtf facebook... Showing notifications for events that never happened... >.<
[02:29] <theadmin> Um, sorry.
[02:29] <theadmin> Never mind
[02:31] <xubunturob> :p
[02:34]  * simpleblue pulls hair out
[02:35] <noahgrub> I know how to install Ubuntu but I need help properly installing it to a partition on a external HD and have grub work properly I will be installing as whoever can help me is helping me.
[02:35] <noahgrub> Any voulenteers?
[02:36] <theadmin> noahgrub: Me, done that successfully with another Linux OS
[02:36] <theadmin> noahgrub: Basic idea -- GRUB on MBR of external drive
[02:36] <theadmin> noahgrub: Should be something like "/dev/sdb"
[02:36] <noahgrub> Theadmin, I'm booting to the USB right now
[02:36] <Sazpaimon_> any crosstool-ng users here? I'm getting this when compiling a shared eglibc http://pastebin.com/5wZAVUvK
[02:37] <noahgrub> Theadmin, can I pm you?
[02:37] <Sazpaimon_> kind of at my wit's end with this eror
[02:37] <Sazpaimon_> *error
[02:37] <touchebag> guys if I resize my partition with windows installed on it , to add unallocated space I can then add to my linux partition, what are the chances I could destroy my windows installation  , and do you think I should do this through a LiveCD or can I do it while logged into linux
[02:40] <theadmin> noahgrub: Sorry, not anymore, something important came up. I have to go.
[02:40] <noahgrub> K
[02:40] <eruch> Hello! How can I fix a broken libc6?
[02:41] <noahgrub> Idle
[02:41] <noahgrub> *idk
[02:41] <eruch> I somehow managed to break just about everything in my system by installing a new version of libc6.
[02:41] <ezequiel> what
[02:41] <eruch> Now when I try to start compiz I get error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[02:42] <eruch> That is *very* scary because a similar error a couple months ago made me have to reinstall my entire os.
[02:42] <noahgrub> Do you have opengl installed?
[02:42] <eruch> noahgrub: me?
[02:42] <inkit> Hi my right click on touch pad is not working. Last time I had this issue i followed some steps written on forum and it killed my sensitivity like anything
[02:43] <noahgrub> Yes Erich
[02:43] <noahgrub> *eruch
[02:43] <noahgrub> Stupid autocorrect
[02:44] <eruch> noahgrub: I have an old version of libqt4-opengl installed (I have generally refrained from installing updates until this evening… and this is why)
[02:45] <noahgrub> Try updateing opengl
[02:45] <eruch> noahgrub: ok. I'm downloading the packages now…
[02:45] <noahgrub> K
[02:46] <Jordan_U> noahgrub: Installing Ubuntu to an external drive is no different than installing to an internal drive.
[02:46] <noahgrub> Jordan_U its a 2nd partition on an external drive
[02:47] <Jordan_U> noahgrub: Still nothing special.
[02:47] <noahgrub> I just seem to always run into a grub issue like no such partition
[02:48] <Jordan_U> noahgrub: Have you tried installing a recent version of Ubuntu to an external drive already?
[02:48] <BS_Kustomz> hello fellow geeks
[02:48] <noahgrub> No, last version I tried with was 10.04
[02:48] <inkit> 1. My right click on touch pad is not working.
[02:48] <ChogyDan> !broadcom
[02:49] <BS_Kustomz> i'm having a slight issue if anyone can help
[02:49] <ljsoftnet> when i shutdown ubuntu logs me out but doesn't shutdown, can i fix this?
[02:49] <noahgrub> Hello
[02:49] <noahgrub> Hold on
[02:49] <BS_Kustomz> holding
[02:49] <BS_Kustomz> or not
[02:50] <BS_Kustomz> i seem to have broken my Wi-Fi button
[02:51] <noahgrub> My live USB is still loading after like 7 minutes
[02:51] <BS_Kustomz> i turned wi-fi off last night to conserve battery and shut it down via a shutdown command on the power button, while the wifi was still off
[02:52] <noahgrub> I'm sorry but I hate 11.04 unity sucks
[02:52] <BS_Kustomz> now it says that "wi-fi is dissabled via a hardware switch''
[02:52] <Jordan_U> !classic | noahgrub
[02:53] <Shaba1> that is what I use
[02:53] <Shaba1> ubuntu classic
[02:53] <BS_Kustomz> i have a screen shot of the iwconfig in terminal if that helps
[02:53] <Shaba1> unity just wierded me out for some strange reason
[02:53] <noahgrub> Won't Ubuntu classic get removed in 11.10
[02:53] <BS_Kustomz> or if you want me to post in the froums i can do that too
[02:54] <eruch_> noahgrub: The update failed with the error E: libc6: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:54] <naibu> anyone know a fix for choppy as hell HD flash video?
[02:54] <Jeremy92> @noahgrub, I've heard that too
[02:54] <BS_Kustomz> to change topic, unity freaked me out too
[02:54] <somsip> noahgrub: that is correct
[02:54] <BS_Kustomz> but i have learned to like it
[02:54] <Jordan_U> noahgrub: GNOME3's fallback is fairly similar from what I've heard, and there will always be XFCE but that's more discussion for #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:55] <noahgrub> Why can't we just stay with Gnome 2 it's the best :D
[02:55] <Jeremy92> Agreed!
[02:56] <Jordan_U> !ot | noahgrub Jeremy92 BS_Kustomz
[02:56] <BS_Kustomz> this is a supprt question i thought
[02:56] <BS_Kustomz> but you're a bot so...
[02:56] <noahgrub> Srry I still need support I just needed to point that out :D
[02:56] <BS_Kustomz> thatnks i guess
[02:57] <BS_Kustomz> what up
[02:58] <naibu> anyone know a fix for choppy as hell HD flash video?
[03:01] <noahk11> OK I'm back
[03:01] <eruch_> What would you say about the libc6 problem?
[03:02] <ChogyDan> how the heck to I add the installation medium of a flash drive as a source?!?
[03:02] <wendell_dhcp> Question about DHCP.  Up until 2 days ago, my Ubuntu 11.04 box was working awesomely.  I had to reboot after some upgrades, and then it was flakey connecting to my router (wired).  Now it will not connect.  DHCP timeout in the logs.  Everything found in docs suggests card is working.  Other ubuntu boxes connecting to router.  Tried manual settings--still not working.  Can anyone help or point me to docs?  Thanks, thanks, thanks in advance.
[03:03] <SetiAmon> anyone know why everything opens up by default on my second monitor(TV) instead of my monitor (Twinview dualmonitor) even though the monitor is selected as the primary display?
[03:03] <Jordan_U> noahgrub: Are you still having problems booting the LiveUSB? If so, where does it seem to hang?
[03:03] <eruch_> Where should I ask about a broken package?
[03:04] <noahgrub> I'm re-createing the live USB ill try again
[03:05] <xiexie> hi folks
[03:05] <Sidvee> Hi, my system seems to be running on both gpu (intel and ati) and thus it is heating up and battery drying up pretty soon.
[03:05] <Jordan_U> noahgrub: If you have any further issues ping me by using my nick in your message as I won't be following the channel.
[03:05] <eruch_> What's the best place to ask for help with a broken package?
[03:05] <DesertFoxNight> I'm having problems changing the network setting from eth0 to wlan0 in Ubuntu Server using VirtualBox. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 and using wlan0 as the network setting to connect to my router.
[03:05] <noahgrub> OK
[03:06] <xiexie> I just wonder, in my ubuntu server, inetd is not installed by default, so what does the system use to handle network request?
[03:07] <DesertFoxNight> Ubuntu Server was able to connect to my router when I was running VB on Windows 7, but not in Ubuntu.
[03:07] <Jordan_U> xiexie: Inetd is only required if you want to start services on demand. If you start Apache at boot then it will bind to port 80 itself.
[03:07] <Sidvee> Whom can I raise my queries?
[03:08] <xiexie> Jordan_U, I see, thanks
[03:08] <eruch_> Who would be able to help with problems installing packages in Ubuntu?
[03:08] <Jordan_U> xiexie: You're welcome.
[03:09] <Jordan_U> eruch_: Just ask your actual question.
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: ask away :)
[03:10] <eruch_> I'm trying to get compiz and synaptic to start working again, but an attempted upgrade broke both of them.
[03:10] <eruch_> When I launch Compiz, I get the error: compiz: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:10] <Sidvee> My system running multiple gpu's. So it is heating up and battery is drying up soon as well. How can I get on gpu switch off?
[03:10] <Guest37662> how do I make a script run automatically when I log in given that I am not an admin and cant change anything outside my home folder?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install compiz      use http://pastie.org   to host the output
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest37662: use the startup items program, you can set programs that run at login
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest79607: users can run scripts just fine
[03:12] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: The output of sudo apt-get update: http://www.pastebin.cc/index.php?show=6364
[03:12] <Guest37662> ActionParsnip, how do I do this (I only have access to console)
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest37662: its a terminal command
[03:13] <roasted_> Is it possible that having 2 monitors in twinview that have different refresh rates (59hz vs 60hz) is causing my video tearing?
[03:14] <Deihmos> anyone know why ubuntu loads things so slow
[03:14] <Tigerboy> naibu: make sure you have the video drivers installed properly and if you have a 64 bit try to use the amd64 version of the adobe flash beta driver
[03:14] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: Oops, wrong pastebin tool. Sorry
[03:14] <Deihmos> it takes a few seconds to start firefox. on windows it loads instant
[03:15] <Tigerboy> in general i find windows much slower but you may have a different set up in firefox windows making it less bogged down with addons
[03:15] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/2629993 And of sudo apt-get --reinstall -install compiz: http://pastie.org/2629994
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: is there a package manager open, like synaptic?
[03:16] <Deihmos> nah windows is much faster for me. the ubuntu UI seems really slow and it doesn't even look good
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: or software centre
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest37662: no gui?
[03:16] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: Synaptic was open when the sudo apt-get update paste was made but then closed before the other
[03:16] <wendell_dhcp> My ubuntu 11.4 system won't conntect the network card to the router either manual settings or dhcp.
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: close it and rerun:  sudo apt-get update    is it smooth now? (no error at the bottom)
[03:16] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: I think I got rid of the Software Center a long time ago…
[03:16] <wendell_dhcp> It used to, but it won't after I needed to reboot it.
[03:17] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[03:17] <wendell_dhcp> I've looked in tons of docs, and the diagnostics I've found seem to suggest that card is up.
[03:17] <celltech> How do I get into another chat room?
[03:17] <Tigerboy> Deihmos: windows is 100 times slower than ubuntu and ubuntu looks at least 1000 times better.
[03:17] <Deihmos> ok
[03:17] <Deihmos> ;mao
[03:17] <roasted_> in fstab, what settings would be good for a home directory? defaults 0 0?
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: ok then rerun: sudo apt-get --reinstall install compiz     what is output?
[03:18] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/2630004
[03:18] <wendell_dhcp> I have other Ubuntu boxes (and non-U) on network working fine. Problem is recent--box has been working for months.
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> roasted_: this is mine: UUID=43beb8fe-c819-4ec4-9909-c0cc658d7a9b /home           ext4    defaults,noatime        0       2
[03:18] <roasted_> thanks bro
[03:18] <Tigerboy> Deihmos: setting ubuntu up right is very important but unlike windows most if not all of the drivers simply work out of the box and there is massive support for ubuntu on the web.
[03:18] <SIFTU> Deihmos: the windows firefox is/was faster at loading.. Linux was lagging but i think they may have addressed this in FF7
[03:18] <roasted_> Is it possible that having 2 monitors in twinview that have different refresh rates (59hz vs 60hz) is causing my video tearing?
[03:19] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: The last time I had a similar problem to this (with a similar cause), my system ended up dead for about a month and a half before I bit the bullet and reinstalled.
[03:19] <Barridus> didn
[03:19] <wendell_dhcp> In logs, DCHP timeout.  Continual log about eth0: link up--many times a minute
[03:19] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: …just to be discouraging :-D
[03:19] <Barridus> didn't ubuntu have the ability to print to a pdf by default?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: try: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: what is output?
[03:19] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/2630013
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: you can install a pdf printer, abiword can export to pdf nicely
[03:20] <wendell_dhcp> Any dchp troubleshooting manuals?  I haven't found them yet.  Any help appreciated...thanks!
[03:20] <Tigerboy> roasted_: no that won't cause it but your control panel for the driver may have an anti-tearing setting
[03:20] <roasted_> Tigerboy - yeah, it definitely doesn't. However I've read from some people this could be why I have tearing.
[03:20] <Tigerboy> barridus: just add cups pdf in your synaptic package manager
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: ok, run: sudo kill -9 5873; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get --reinstall install compiz
[03:20] <roasted_> Tigerboy - afte rall, using 1 monitor does NOT show tearing. yet using two monitors does. someone told me twinview sees 2 monitors as 1, so having moniotrs with separate refresh rates could cause it, which, makes sense to me...
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> wendell_dhcp: what is your issue?
[03:21] <Barridus> ActionParsnip, i need to print more than just word documents
[03:21] <Tigerboy> roasted: no it will use more resources to have two monitors on which may increase tearing as a biproduct
[03:21] <Barridus> i think Tigerboy's sounds more universal
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/05/17/5-steps-to-create-a-pdf-printer-print-to-pdf-in-ubuntu/
[03:22] <Sidvee> My system running multiple gpu's. So it is heating up and battery is drying up soon as well. How can I get on gpu switch off?
[03:22] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: It is asking: http://pastie.org/2630024
[03:22] <SIFTU> Sidvee: optimus laptop?
[03:22] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: Should I take the default values?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/04/print-pdf-printer-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[03:22] <Barridus> ActionParsnip, Tigerboy, thanks i'll try cups-pdf
[03:23] <Tigerboy> barridus: good it's pretty easy to use
[03:23] <Tigerboy> bye for now all
[03:23] <Barridus> ActionParsnip, i tried print to file and only had postscript as a choice
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: press tab then press enter
[03:23] <SIFTU> Sidvee: if soo look into acpi_call
[03:24] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: Done. http://pastie.org/2630030
[03:25] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: You've fixed it! Cool, thanks!
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: np, the packages got locked by hung processes
[03:25] <eruch_> ActionParsnip: I'll have to remember how to do that.
[03:25] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: networking won't come up. my box won't connect. diagnostics say card is OK.  Router hasn't changed
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> eruch_: I suggest a reboot too
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> wendell_dhcp: has the interface worked in ubuntu before?
[03:27] <Sidvee> SIFTU: It has got a onboard Intel and an ati one. Both seems to be ON.
[03:27] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: yes.  Worked for months until about 2 days ago.
[03:28] <roasted_> actionparsnip, were you the one helping me with video tearing earlier?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> wendell_dhcp: I suggest you reboot, then get logged in and run:  dmesg | less    and read through, some of it will relate to the network and you can diagnose
[03:28] <fowl> nautilus is broken
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> roasted_: maybe, not sure
[03:28] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: rebooting (again....)  :-)
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> fowl: care to expand on that?
[03:29] <roasted_> actionparsnip - I was just curious if you were, because I'm looking for some opinions of users to see if having two monitors that have different refresh rates could be causing my video tearing.
[03:29] <roasted_> actionparsnip - any insight on it?
[03:29] <DMW> irc.byroe.net #explorecrew
[03:29] <fowl> ActionParsnip: it won't open things like torrents from outside nautilus (ie chrome)
[03:29] <fowl> and not just torrents, zips, pdfs whatever
[03:29] <fowl> thunar however does just fine with it. whats the deal
[03:32] <henningvis> I got an error upgrading to kernel 3 ....what to do?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/701405/
[03:33] <excelsior> unetbootin versus startup disk creator, thoughts?
[03:33] <Barridus> excelsior, unetbootin
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> fowl: if you right click a file and select open with...  you can then set the app to open the file with. There is a tickbox to make the OS remember the setting
[03:34] <urlin2u> excelsior, startup is for ubuntu primarily, unetbootin will load many othe ISO's
[03:34] <ZeloZelos> anyone here ahve the GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M? wondering if thers any issues with ubuntu. thinking about a new laptop
[03:34] <excelsior> ok, so why does ubuntu not have unetbootin standard, then?
[03:35] <Barridus> excelsior, it uses qt for one
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> henningvis: there are no errors there
[03:35] <excelsior> one in the repos is ok, though?
[03:35] <urlin2u> excelsior, we don't do polls, but support questions.
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: it has usb-creator
[03:35] <henningvis> it does not wany to boot
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: you can install unetbootin if you desire
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> henningvis: teh 3.0 kernel is not supported here
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> henningvis: you are using a 3rd party kernel we cannot support. Try asking in #linux
[03:36] <Sidvee> SIFTU, it has got a onboard Intel and an ATI graphics card
[03:36] <henningvis> ok
[03:36] <Trusardi> guys a disaster happened to me... i deleted a recovered file... in libreoffice
[03:36] <Barridus> i will say i have not used startup disk creator in a couple releases but every time i did use it in the past i had some sort of disaster.  i've used unetbootin for many years hundreds of times for ubuntu and never once had a problem, so it's earned 100% of my trust
[03:36] <excelsior> I was thinking of being able to install some sort of really small linux for ancient comps, but nah.
[03:36] <Trusardi> is there any SLIGHTEST change the temp file is there somewher?
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: its what I use too ;)
[03:36] <Trusardi> 5 hours of work gone...
[03:36] <Trusardi> any hope?
[03:37] <henningvis> why is this a 3rd party kernel?  is it not an ubuntu upgrace
[03:37] <excelsior> ok, unet it is...
[03:37] <Barridus> well if that's not a vote of confidence i dunno what is, ActionParsnip ;)
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: sure, use ubuntu minimal and install fluxbox and lightdm and you have a slick OS
[03:37] <baktrak> whats a good email service?
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: in wat way an email service?
[03:37] <Barridus> speaking of disasters this cups-pdf thing isn't working at all like those webpages said ActionParsnip, brb rebooting
[03:37] <baktrak> To just Email without going to a website
[03:37] <baktrak> and doing it that way
[03:38] <Trusardi> guys, libreoffice crash - any help if i deleted recovered file without saving?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: so an email client, you mean
[03:38] <baktrak> Yes
[03:38] <xangua> baktrak: evolution is defaul, thunderbird will be default in future releases
[03:38] <xangua> default*
[03:38] <baktrak> evolution keeps not responding so i will do thunderbir
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> baktrak: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-email-clients-available-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[03:38] <baktrak> d
[03:38] <baktrak> thank u
[03:38] <baktrak> and thank u action
[03:40] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: I am confused by the messages.  I see "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eht0: link is not ready", then a bunch of "r8169 0000:04:00.0 eth0: link down" ...
[03:40] <somsip> ActionParsnip: you just recommended to use minimal install. Can this be upgraded to the next release without b0rking the whole thing, or downloading unnecessary new packages?
[03:41] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: then a tremendous number of "r8169 0000:04:00.0 eth0: link up"
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> somsip: the minimal install just installs a minimal ubuntu OS, it will upgrade to the next release the same as a full install
[03:41] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: after one line "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready"
[03:41] <ChogyDan> wasnt broadcom supposed to get easier?
[03:42] <ChogyDan> like it going opensource and all?
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: doubt it
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: the firmware is proprietary
[03:43] <ChogyDan> meh
[03:43] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: This seems to mean the card took longer than expected to come up, but it did, and then it did again (thousands of times).  The "link up" message continues to fill kernel and syslog
[03:43] <somsip> ActionParsnip: k - so specifically, I've got a min install 64 bit, minimal additional packages, no gnome, other WM. So when the time comes, I can do-release-upgrade and I won't end up with a load of new cruft I don't want?
[03:43] <Sazpaimon_> I'm at my wit's end with this eglibc compilation
[03:43] <Sazpaimon_> :/
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon_: no PPA?
[03:44] <Sazpaimon_> ActionParsnip, I'm trying to set up a cross-compilation toolchain using crosstool-ng
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> somsip: exactly, you will only have a minimal install as you have no metapackages to install desktop stuffs
[03:44] <Sazpaimon_> I cannot, for the life of me, get eglibc to compile
[03:44] <Sazpaimon_> http://pastebin.com/5wZAVUvK keep getting this during linking
[03:45] <somsip> ActionParsnip: many thanks - I was looking for an opporunity to ask wthat one without being #ubuntu+1
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon_: i see, ive not compiled anything outside of gentoo for linux
[03:45] <roasted_> How important is it to have two monitors with matching refresh rates when using twinview? I ask this because I've been having video tearing for years that I can't fix yet someone told me it's due to my refresh rates being 59.94 vs 60 for my monitors. Anybody have anything to confirm about this?
[03:45] <Sazpaimon_> since its a very specific type of error, I dont think anyone will be able to help me here
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> somsip: its fairly generic but please keep oneiric stuff in its correct channel
[03:45] <somsip> ActionParsnip: yup - np
[03:46] <Sidvee> There are lots of bugs for HP TM2 series.
[03:46] <eruch> Hello! What's wrong with this command? sudo cp /usr/share/Wreathe/AppIcons/system-shutdown.svg /usr/share/icons/elementary/*/system-shutdown.svg
[03:47] <eruch> The * is being treated as a literal character, instead of as a wildcard.
[03:48] <somsip> eruch: you want to copy the wreathe shutdown icon to each subdir in elemenetary dir?
[03:48] <eruch> eruch: Yes.
[03:48] <eruch> Um, somsip
[03:48] <eruch> :-D
[03:49] <lokomis> Hey, 10.04 Desktop, AMD 955 / ATI 5870, dual monitors @ 2560x1024: Desktop effects work great (even w/ additional settings like cube, cube reflection; cairo dock with the exception of some themes) but Youtube does not fullscreen properly and Stellarium & certain screensavers cause monitor 2 to have garbled output.  Any suggestions appreciated.
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> eruch: you'll nee a cheeky bash script, You can either do it manually to each folder or you can ask in #bash and they may give you a cheeky command
[03:50] <eruch> Okay…
[03:50] <roasted_> How important is it to have two monitors with matching refresh rates when using twinview? I ask this because I've been having video tearing for years that I can't fix yet someone told me it's due to my refresh rates being 59.94 vs 60 for my monitors. Anybody have anything to confirm about this?
[03:50] <celltech> Is there a VM chat?
[03:51] <noahk11> Will I damage windows system files by dualbooting on the same HD?
[03:51] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: Do see something strange when the card first loads:  (unregistered net_device): unknown MAC using family default.   I think this seems OK though.  Two lines later it gives the mac address that it had been using.
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> noahk11: no, it will be fne as long as you read and think during the install :)
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> noahk11: if you use Windows 7 it can resize its own NTFS and you can install ubuntu to the free space
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> noahk11: you should have a backup of your data anyway if it is important so this also should not be a worry
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> wendell_dhcp: anyone else reporting the same message on any forums etc?
[03:53] <noahk11> I have all my important stuff on an external HD
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> noahk11: cool :D
[03:54] <noahk11> So installing Ubuntu and win-win side by side will not damage windows 7 files?
[03:55] <noahk11> *windows 7 not win-win
[03:55] <wendell_dhcp> ActiionParsnip: I haven't seen anything.  Most network issues seem to be lower-level.  There was a great guide to network troubleshooting, but didn't have much about this specifically.  According to those diagnostics, the card looks like it's OK...reports "UP" status.
[03:55] <wendell_dhcp> ActiionParsnip: I will do more searching.
[03:55] <Stanley00> noahk11: yes, as long as you do it the right way ;)
[03:56] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip*  sorry!
[03:56] <noahk11> What is the right way?
[03:56] <noahk11> Lol
[03:56] <fowl> ActionParsnip: i'll get a screenshot of the error, 1 sec
[03:56] <Barridus_> where does cups-pdf print to by default?  i can't find anything
[03:57] <Stanley00> noahk11: just follow the official guide, I think, and make sure you know what you are doing ;))
[03:57] <noahk11> Thanks
[03:57] <fowl> ActionParsnip: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2418/selection057.png
[03:58] <fowl> it's like that for any kind of file
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> noahk11: it can if you don't watch what you are doing
[04:02] <noahk11> Actionparsnip, read the official notes I know what to do know
[04:02] <XistancE> How come when I maximize my web browser it expands across my 2 monitors instead of just one?
[04:02] <noahk11> *noe
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> fowl: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep nauti; lsb_release -a
[04:03] <noahk11> *now
[04:03] <melvincv> Hi all, Did anyone get Outlook 2007 working in Wine on Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: check the appdb
[04:03] <XistancE> How come when I maximize my web browser it expands across my 2 monitors instead of just one?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7533   doesn't run
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> XistancE: do you have both setup as one big desktop?
[04:04] <bugong> is there any one who knows remote desktop here...
[04:04] <XistancE> ActionParsnip: how do I know?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> XistancE: you set it up.
[04:04] <bugong> is there any one who knows remote desktop here...
[04:05] <XistancE> No I didn't, I clicked Twinview and that was it lol
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> XistancE: if you run:  xrandr    and the width is huge, then it is
[04:05] <Stanley00> !patience | bugong
[04:05] <phong_> i like the unity stuff
[04:05] <ibm> how can i go to the swedish channel
[04:05] <XistancE> , maximum 3520 x 1080
[04:05] <XistancE> ActionParsnipL How do I fix this?
[04:05] <melvincv> This is what I got from the appdb, but I don't know how this Eric did this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/701414/
[04:05] <bugong> I want to remote a computer linux connecting to winowsxp, any one here who can help me......
[04:06] <Zimm3r> In Sound Preferences my volume can go up to 130 percent is there a way to set that to 100 percent?
[04:06] <ibm> how can i go to the swedish channel
[04:06] <Stanley00> melvincv: why dont you use an alternate app, like thunderbird?
[04:06] <Zimm3r> ibm try /join #CHANNEL
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> XistancE: you can use grid and you can drag the window to a corner or side and make the window a certain size maybe, I don't use dual monitors personally so I have no real advise
[04:07] <bugong> I want to remote a computer linux connecting to winowsxp, any one here who can help me......
[04:07] <ibm> how can i go to the swedish channel
[04:07] <Krenair> bugong, teamviewer?
[04:07] <XistancE> ActionParsnip Where can I find grid?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> XistancE: but we do know both your monitors are making one super wide desktop, so the maximize is doing what it is supposed to
[04:07] <fowl> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/mWgu2CP4
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> XistancE: its in ccsm
[04:07] <XistancE> ActionParsnip: It wasn't doing this earlier is what I don't understand
[04:07] <melvincv> Yes, we do use Thunderbird and Evolution, I just wondered why Outlook doesn't work while Word, Excel and Powerpoint works...
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> fowl: mint isn't supported here
[04:08] <bugong> i want it using a terminal server using ubuntu
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> !mint | fowl
[04:08] <Zimm3r> ibm /join #ubuntu-se
[04:08] <fowl> tis not a mintproblem
[04:08] <fowl> what a sham
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> fowl: we don't support mint here at all
[04:08] <bugong> team if not free...
[04:08] <bugong> team viewer is  not free...
[04:08] <Sidvee> Wireless display light blinking. Another bug. Phew!
 thanks <Zimm3r>
[04:09] <bugong> Krenair: I want to use terminal server and its not connecting to my windowsxp..
[04:09] <Zimm3r> np
[04:09] <Zimm3r> In Sound Preferences my volume can go up to 130 percent is there a way to set that to 100 percent?
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> bugong: use rdesktop and you can connect to windows terminal services
[04:10] <melvincv> Zimm3r, Mine too does the same. Is that a bug? I don't think so.
[04:11] <Zimm3r> melvincv: no I think it is a feature or maybe just differing views
[04:11] <melvincv> Zimm3r, VLC player does the same, right?
[04:11] <phong_> u know vmware unity?
[04:11] <Zimm3r> melvincv: that is something different but similiar
[04:11] <phong_> it's the best
[04:12] <melvincv> Zimm3r, :)
[04:13] <melvincv> Zimm3r, btw how do you type my username so fast? Tab completion?
[04:13] <L-----D> what's the shortcut to copy text from terminal
[04:13] <Zimm3r> melvincv: yes
[04:13] <melvincv> Zimm3r, what IRC client do you use?
[04:13] <L-----D> copy hightlight text content
[04:13] <ranjan> Hi all, how to reduce the font size in ubuntu 11.10. Is there any configuration files that we can alter instead of installing tools like gnome-tweak-tool?
[04:13] <uofm49426> hey anyone know if conexant tv card are still supported in maverick
[04:13] <Zimm3r> melvincv: pidgin and sometimes irssi but mostly pidgin
[04:14] <phong_> do you hear me, i said vmware is the best right?
[04:14] <phong_> vmware unity
[04:14] <melvincv> Zimm3r, ok, I use Xchat.
[04:14] <ranjan> L-----D, Shift+Ctrl+V
[04:14] <Zimm3r> melvincv: never used that because on windows it doesn't work so I just stick with pidgin
[04:14] <Zimm3r> I will be back
[04:15] <melvincv> Zimm3r, it's non-free on windows. So I use Xchat 2 on Windows :)
[04:15] <urlin2u> ranjan, 11.10 is ubuNTU+
[04:15] <phong_> what is ubuntu?
[04:16] <urlin2u> #ubuntu+1 ranjan
[04:16] <ranjan> urlin2u, ok thank you :)
[04:16] <rww> !ubuntu | phong_
[04:16] <uofm49426> have a pixelview pv-m4800 fm would just like to use the fm radio part are the 878a modules in ubuntu 10.10
[04:18] <ibm> can someone help me with ubuntu
[04:18] <Zimm3r> And I am back
[04:19] <melvincv> Ibm, what help do you need?
[04:19] <urlin2u> ibm, probably; ask a question.
[04:19] <ibm> when i upgraded ubuntu to 10.04 i had som problem
[04:20] <melvincv> ibm, The latest stable version is 11.04, by the way what's the issue?
[04:20] <ibm> so i tried to uninstall ubuntu and install it again but it is the same problem
[04:20] <andyvy> melvincv: 10.04 is LTS ;)
[04:21] <melvincv> Zimm3r, you can use Xchat 2, the unofficial Xchat, on Windows.
[04:21] <ibm> i have a 48 bit processor it seems that ubuntu thinks it is a 64 bit
[04:22] <Zimm3r> melvincv: meh pidgin was easier to get running tho xchat does have scripting features
[04:22] <melvincv> ibm, 48 bit???
[04:23] <ibm> yes when i download the file it was a i386 but after reboot it became a i686
[04:23] <ibm> i have it installed in windows
[04:23] <melvincv> ibm, what is the processor you're using?
[04:23] <ibm> like a windows program
[04:24] <ibm> intel celeron 48 bit
[04:25] <andyvy> ibm: 32bit?
[04:25] <melvincv> Hey guys, have you heard of a 48 bit processor? I've heard of 32 and 64 bit only...
[04:25] <ibm> yes i need only the 32 bit installed
[04:26] <wendell_dhcp> ActionParsnip: The best lead I can find so far looks like the messages that I am getting during the actual attempt to authenticate DHCP.  NetworkManager[690]: <info> (eth0): device state change: 7 -> 9 (reason 5).  Couldn't find the list of these codes and reasons.  Any help here?
[04:26] <ibm> the processor is a 48 bit but does also work of course like a 32 bit
[04:27] <KirinDave> I placed some fonts in ~/.fonts, but xfontsel can't see them.
[04:27] <KirinDave> Anyone know why that might be?
[04:29] <melvincv> I put windows fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype  Openoffice used to use then, but LibreOffice doesn't.
[04:29] <ariesam> Hola a tdos!!
[04:30] <Peddy> are there any tools to set different wallpapers for dual monitors?
[04:33] <ibm> ubuntu 10.04 installation is bad it is to automatic if you are using it in windows you can not chose witch wan you want 32 or 64 bit if you have a 48 bit processor ubuntu installs the 64 bit
[04:33] <Tohuw> I've got a user who installed the audio creation suite via tasksel, now her ubuntu is branded as ubuntu studio. How does she change it back to normal ubuntu branding?
[04:33] <melvincv> Now I get Windows fonts by installing ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[04:34] <ibm> please how can i fix it so i only have a 32 bit installation
[04:34] <Tohuw> ibm: There is no such thing as a 48-bit processor.
[04:35] <urlin2u> ibm, are you installing from windows=wubi
[04:35] <melvincv> ibm, get the 32 bit iso image from Ubuntu.com
[04:35] <ibm> yes wubi
[04:36] <samsul> i have a problem... when i start my computer always seem like kernel panic i'm using ubuntu 10.10
[04:36] <urlin2u> ibm, wubi will download the latest release, you might try getting a 11.04 32 bit.
[04:36] <samsul> when i type dmesg seem like this http://tempel.blankon.in/1719
[04:36] <samsul> i have no idea... anyone can help me?
[04:36] <ibm> wubi is bringing the i386 file but after the reboot it getting to a i686
[04:38] <Tohuw> samsul: "[drm:radeon_dvi_detect] *ERROR* DVI-D-1: probed a monitor but no|invalid EDID" that's your problem. Your Xorg config is wrong. Boot into recovery mode and try the "fix Xorg" option.
[04:39] <ariesam> hi! world!
[04:39] <Tohuw> ibm: how do you know it is a 64-bit install?
[04:39] <urlin2u> ibm, i686 is 32 bit
[04:39] <cordoval> i am trying to run this but from www-data from a php web page /usr/local/bin/wkhtmltopdf --lowquality "http://silslid.local" "/tmp/knp_x.pdf"
[04:39] <cordoval> but it is not generating the pdf
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> ibm: uname -m
[04:40] <cordoval> how to troubleshoot? most likely it is giving permission problems, however, when I sudo -u www-data and run the command in CLI it works
[04:40] <cordoval> how to troubleshoot this
 are you sure i think it is a 64 bit but the i386 is a 32 bit
[04:40] <Tohuw> ibm: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/I686 As urlin2u said, i686 is 32-bit. Also, as ActionParsnip said, run uname -m
[04:41] <urlin2u> ibm, yes, t=run the command ActionParsnip suggested mine is i686, I only have 32 bit.
[04:41] <Tohuw> The 3 and 6 are generational identifiers, not architectural identifiers.
[04:41] <ibm> but why is my ubuntu getting stuck after a while
[04:42] <melvincv> ibm, yes, my processor is a 32 bit Pentium 4 , but uname -m gives me i686. It's OK. i386 is for older 32 bit processors.
[04:42] <Tohuw> !doesntwork | ibm
[04:42] <Visitor_099> I remember coming accross a help channel that had a bot linking the same channel over 3 different networks... anyone knows such a channel?
[04:43] <urlin2u> ibm, hard to say what your problems are wubi is not for long term use read what the designer says. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[04:44] <samsul> when i try recovery mode... it did not show anything but only kernel panic
[04:44] <Tohuw> samsul: Try booting from a LiveCd and using the "Repair a broken system" option
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> samsul: is the ram healthy?
[04:44] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while
[04:45] <samsul> still seem like this http://tempel.blankon.in/1719
[04:45] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: From his dump he posted, looks like XOrg is freaking out over an invalid EDID. But I agree, asking about the RAM can save time!
[04:46] <samsul> i thing my RAM is fine...
[04:46] <kornBen> I think you should look for another ram
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> samsul: there is memtest in grub, i suggest you test it. If recovery mode is having an issue then its probably something like that
[04:46] <Tohuw> ibm: You still aren't giving enough information. You need to reproduce a specific error. "Stuff crashes after awhile" is not specific. "OpenOffice Writer crashes after 5-15 minutes of just being open" is. Regardless, what does dmesg tell you?
[04:47] <Tohuw> kornBen: ActionParsnip gave a more helpful answer. Why run around replacing RAM instead of testing it? :)
[04:48] <seidell> haha this guy screams like a pig http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFxMM36fboc&feature=channel_video_title
[04:49] <melvincv> !ubuntu-offtopic | seidell
[04:49] <melvincv> !#ubuntu-offtopic | seidell
[04:50] <kornBen> yup thats right
[04:50] <XistancE> xrandr tells me I have a resolution of 3520x1080 and I've been googling everywhere to figure out how to fix this but I can't find anything ,any advice?
[04:50] <kornBen> i mean ram nowadays is more cheaper
[04:50] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash
[04:52] <XistancE> xrandr tells me I have a resolution of 3520x1080 and I've been googling everywhere to figure out how to fix this but I can't find anything ,any advice?
[04:52] <urlin2u> ibm, hardly anybody here uses wubi, it is rather difficult to get support as it as it is not designed for long term use, you might try the Ubuntu Forums.
[04:53] <melvincv> !wubi
[04:53] <samsul> Tohuw | Action : how to figure out the memtest?
[04:54] <samsul> i'm uploading my photo...
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> samsul: if you see any red, you have bad ram
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> samsul: use TAB to complete nicks too ;)
[04:55] <ariesam> Viva BOLIVIA
[04:56] <XistancE> ++
[04:56] <XistancE> Does anybody here use weechat?
[04:57] <samsul> ActionParsnip, oh, okay... there are many red...
[04:59] <melrockz> ActionParsnip, won't reinserting the RAM make any difference?  Sometimes, it works for me...
[05:01] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash                           i think wubi and a ordinary partition installation is the same expect it is booting from the windows start menu instead
[05:02] <XistancE> Does anybody here use weechat
[05:02] <urlin2u> ibm, wubi is a file in widows.
[05:02] <urlin2u> windows*
[05:03] <urlin2u> ibm, read the link http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[05:04] <Tohuw> !ask | XistancE
[05:06] <ibm> yes but i mean it is using the ntfs file system but it is also booting the ext4 partition so it is maybe like to operating system in the same partition expect ubuntu is booting after the windows start files
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> melrockz: possibly, but a test will show if its the ram that's bad
[05:07] <ibm> yes but i mean it is using the ntfs file system but it is also booting the ext4 partition so it is maybe like to operating system in the same partition expect ubuntu is booting after the windows start files
[05:07] <zmbmartin> what is normal operating temp for a hp envy 17 w/ i7 Q720 1.60GHz quad core?
[05:07] <ibm> yes but i mean it is using the ntfs file system but it is also booting the ext4 partition so it is maybe like 2 operating system in the same partition expect ubuntu is booting after the windows start files
[05:08] <ninwa> I just upgraded to 11.10, are there any known bugs that cause this to happen with the file browser? http://i.imgur.com/WGAkW.png ... The folders lack icons, and the bread crumb bar isn't styled.
[05:08] <vsync> ibm or then ... not
[05:09] <kareem_> kareem
[05:09] <kareem_> hiiiii
[05:09] <urlin2u> ibm, wubi is a psuedo virtual, the only partition is the NTFS, read the article. You will get very little support here, nobody uses it for long.
[05:09] <ninwa> Also, does anybody know why Google was replaced with Ask.com in the latest Firefox update?
[05:09] <melrockz> Ibm, yes, the Ubuntu files are stored in your windows ntfs partition. If you observe, you won't be able to mount your windows c: partition on a wubi installation. For Ubuntu, that file on your ntfs partition is the ext4 partition.
[05:10] <melrockz> ibm, it's like a virtual hard disk.
[05:10] <urlin2u> melrockz, actually both OS's can reach each other4 without mounting
[05:11] <urlin2u> they are each others file system
[05:11] <urlin2u> in*
[05:13] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash
[05:13] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash
[05:13] <FloodBot1> ibm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> ninwa: just change it
[05:14] <ninwa> ActionParsnip, so you don't know why it was changed then?
[05:15] <ibm> please help me does someone now how to fix it
[05:16] <xistance> If I have to run 'sudo weechat-curses' to start weechat, how can I make it so I don't have to sudo it
[05:23] <kareem_>  i have  a problem with vodafone k3770 usb modem  i am using ubuntu 11.04
[05:23] <kareem_> will it be solved in 10.10?
[05:24] <kareem_> hey
[05:24] <kareem_> i have  a problem with vodafone k3770 usb modem  i am using ubuntu 11.04  will it be solved in 10.10?
[05:25] <zakwilson> kareem_: how is anyone to know if your problem will be fixed if you don't say what problem you're having?
[05:25] <kareem_> it doesn't work at all
[05:25] <kareem_> sorry i wasn't clear about that
[05:26] <zakwilson> !work
[05:26] <zakwilson> What are you trying to do? What steps have you tried? Are there error messages? Logs?
[05:27] <kareem_> it is not recognised by the system it works well on debian  only debian
[05:27] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash
[05:28] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash does anyone now how to fix it please help me someone to fix it
[05:28] <zakwilson> ibm: that was a bit unclear, but I think what you're saying is that Openoffice and Abiword regularly crash when open for a long time.
[05:28] <zakwilson> ibm: also, please only post once.
[05:29] <zakwilson> kareem_: what steps did you follow to use it on Debian?
 yes other programs to but the only one who is working fine is firefox and xchat almost all others program does not
[05:30] <kareem_> nothing i just plugged it in and the a menu entry appeared in the network menu in the system tray and i followed the steps it was smooth and easy
[05:30] <perfect> cesarx
[05:31] <perfect> aqui é variado
[05:31] <perfect> tem tm gringo?
[05:31] <tensorpudding> !br | perfect
[05:32] <zakwilson> kareem_: my first step would be to search for a driver at packages.debian.org.
[05:33] <kareem_> my problem is with ubuntu not debian it works on debian but not on ubuntu
[05:33] <zakwilson> ibm: that's very unusual. My first guess would be that there's actually a hardware problem with your computer - defective memory, most likely.
[05:34] <kareem_> i wish it supported by the kernel so it will be plug and play
[05:34] <kareem_> it is not me alone many users faced this problem
[05:34] <zakwilson> kareem_: if it works on Debian and there's a driver package available for Debian then chances are good that you can install said driver on Ubuntu and have it work without additional effort.
[05:35] <kareem_> i will try now and come back later...... your effort and replies are appreciated
[05:35] <zakwilson> Good luck.
[05:36] <almoxarife> I want to remove a panel in 'classic' but its blacked out, any hints?
 but windows is working fine no problem at all so it most be the ubuntu software
[05:37] <zakwilson> ibm: so download a fresh copy and boot the computer from a CD or flash drive using that fresh copy. See if the programs in question are reliable under those circumstances.
[05:37] <zakwilson> ibm: if they ARE reliable, reinstall Ubuntu. If they're not, I don't know what to tell you.
[05:39] <deeptracks> xubuntu install tonite!!! Had glx file problems and would not let me log in to desktop.
 some guy help ones with an other problem long time ago i gave him aces to the computer somehow cant you do the same please
[05:40] <zakwilson> ibm: I am not going to take remote control of your computer to attempt to diagnose your problem. You don't want me to do that; I've been drinking.
[05:41] <devan> Hey, I plug my ipod into my ubuntu laptop, and I don't see any recognition--nothing on the desktop, nothing in nautilus. Anyone know what to do?
 it is okey if you only break ubuntu not windows
[05:42] <devan> but dmesg shows "new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8" and then "configuration #1 chosen from 4 choices"
[05:42] <deeptracks> I went into safemode to remove glx programs now it works fine but with out glx. anyone ever see this problem?
[05:42] <devan> anyone know what to make of that?
[05:43] <zakwilson> devan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[05:44] <amin`-station3> i need lit we browser with sock proxy capabilities
[05:45] <devan> zakwilson, I'm on the iphone page but I didn't want to use amarok... besides, assuming problem is deeper, since I'm not seeing any recognition. If my computer sees it and can use it, then banshee should be able to do the rest.
[05:45] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash does anyone now how to fix it please help me someone to fix it
[05:45] <zakwilson> devan: what ipod is it?
[05:45] <devan> iphone 3g
[05:46] <almoxarife> ibm: firefox has never crashed?
[05:46] <devan> zakwilson: iphone 3g*
[05:46] <zakwilson> devan: last I checked, sync with iphones is difficult and limited. The iphone page is probably your best starting point. I have never done it.
[05:47] <devan> I just need to transfer some files from computer to iphone, one time deal. not super complex like syncing or anything.
[05:47] <gir75twg> oh devan: ssh perhaps then?
[05:48] <xist> m
 no not yet and i do not hop it will
[05:48] <devan> gir75twg, wouldn't that take some jailbreaking and so on? I've got a pretty virgin iphone, I don't want to get really involved with it.
[05:48] <almoxarife> ibm: what version of ubuntu you using?
[05:48] <gir75twg> True. I understand. You could try an app called GoodReader.
[05:48] <gir75twg> Has wifi uploading.
[05:48] <ibm> 11.04
 11.04
[05:49] <deeptracks> devan are you sure you are using the correct usb cord?
[05:49] <deeptracks> simple question
[05:49] <almoxarife> ibm: have you looked at the logs for some indication of where the issue is?
[05:50] <devan> deeptracks, correct usb cord? My iphone is charging using it, and I don't have some complex usb hub setup or something... it's definitely plugged in.
[05:50] <gir75twg> Do you dual boot windows or anything else?
[05:50] <deeptracks> k just makin sure
[05:50] <devan> gir75twg, it's a borrows laptop for temporary use. :\
[05:50] <gir75twg> Ah :/
[05:50] <devan> gir75twg, I wish, I'd definitely just go that route.
[05:51] <gir75twg> devan, I've never had this issue before. Both my iPhone, and iPad are recognized
[05:51] <gir75twg> just fine. :/
[05:52] <devan> gir75twg, lame. Sad story. Yeah, I remember always seeing it show up as a digital camera or something? I've never seen it just fail to be recognized either. Odd...
[05:52] <gir75twg> Yeah. Perhaps.
[05:52] <gir75twg> Does it show up, like even as an unknown device?
 no how can i do that
[05:52] <gir75twg> Or is it not showing at all?
[05:52] <devan> gir75twg, nothing shows up, just the dmesg stuff I mentioned above... And reading the support page, this makes no sense. "ucid natively supports both iPhone and iPod Touch 1G, 2G, 3G, 3GS and 4G models (iPad should also work) running up to firmware 4.0.1 without the need to jailbreak."
[05:53] <devan> I'm running a iOS3.2 or something, and Ubuntu 10.4 (10.10 broke support, but 10.04 is said to work out of the box...)
[05:53] <gir75twg> What firmware are you running?
[05:53] <gir75twg> Ah.
[05:53] <deeptracks> I dont have an Iphone but is there an unmount option on the card settings like on android? because my android wont be recognized if i dont set it to unmount card
[05:54] <vsync> devan have you tried libiphone + idevicepair unpair && idevicepair pair?
 no how can i do that
[05:54] <almoxarife> ibm: use the 'log file viewer'
[05:54] <gir75twg> Try putting it in DFU. Then if it pairs/recognizes, use TinyUmbrella to get it out.
[05:55] <vsync> gir75twg it won't auto-pair :p
[05:55] <gir75twg> It may if in DFU :P
 cant you get access to my computer please i do not now how
[05:56] <blsh0p> hey you guys, in the terminal, how do you type a file that has spaces in its name?
[05:56] <devan> vsync, gir75twg, just realized you have to type the password... now when I plug it in I get "unable to mount [iphonename]" "unhandled lockdown error (-5)"
[05:56] <blsh0p> as in, do you need underscores?
[05:56] <almoxarife> ibm: better yet, you access your computer
[05:56] <blsh0p> like, i wants to go to the folder math homework
[05:56] <devan> blsh0p, you mean \?
[05:56] <edbian> blsh0p: but it in quotes or use \ before each space
[05:56] <blsh0p> do i type in, cd math homework, or cd math_homework
[05:57] <blsh0p> so i do it in quotes then?
[05:57] <devan> yes
[05:57] <blsh0p> oh ok
[05:57] <edbian> blsh0p: cd "math homework"  or cd math\ homework
[05:57] <vsync> or math\ homework
[05:57] <blsh0p> that makes sense, thanks, a ton
[05:57] <devan> or cd math\ homework
[05:57] <devan> happy computer
[05:57] <vsync> devan, yep, now just unpair+pair it
[05:57] <devan> happy computing*
[05:57] <vsync> and you'll be golden
[05:57] <blsh0p> ive been completely stopped from using the terminal because of that stupid mistake, lol
[05:57] <blsh0p> thanks guys, a ton
 ok how can i do it can you tell me step for step please
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> just use TAB to complete file and folder names and you'll have an easier time
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> handles the spaces for you
[05:59]  * edbian agrees  I never use tabs
[05:59] <edbian> i mean, I never type spaces
[05:59] <devan> vsync, how do I do that?
[05:59] <devan> "idevicepair: command not found"
[05:59] <vsync> install libiphone
[06:00] <devan> vsync, I tried, I didn't find a package called libiphone...
[06:00] <devan> Couldn't find any package matching "libiphone".  However, the following
[06:00] <devan> packages contain "libiphone" in their description:
[06:00] <devan>   libplist1 ifuse libplist++1 ifuse-dbg libplist++-dev python-plist
[06:00] <devan>   libplist-utils libplist-dbg libplist-dev
[06:00] <FloodBot1> devan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 ok how can i do it can you tell me step for step please
[06:01] <vsync> hmmm, sec
[06:01] <vsync> wonder if it was the wrong package or do you have to add a repo
[06:03] <almoxarife> ibm: sorry, I was doing my hair, what was the question?
[06:03] <vsync> yeh, sorry devan. Add this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa and install libmobiledevice
[06:03] <devan> vsync, it's odd, I thought the support was out of the box. :]
[06:03] <vsync> that was the correct package
[06:03] <vsync> devan not for itouch/pad/phone
[06:04] <devan> vsync, so it is right for my iphone 3g, or not?
[06:04] <vsync> devan yes
 you sed to me look what the problem is but i do not now how
[06:04] <vsync> works with ios4+ too, tested myself
[06:05] <almoxarife> ibm: you said 'openoffice' broke?
[06:06] <ibm> yes almost all the program expect xchat and firefox
 yes almost all the program expect xchat and firefox
[06:06] <almoxarife> ibm: still have the libreoffice installed?
[06:06] <devan> vsync, remind me again how to add a ppa? the gui doesn't accept that, improperly formated or I'm in the wrong place... and I just haven't used linux enough recently to recall how to do it through aptitude. :\
[06:07] <ibm> yes i think so
 yes i think so
[06:07] <el_seano> devan: something like this: 'apt-add-repository 'deb http://myserver/path/to/repo stable myrepo'
[06:07] <me-1> hi..is gnome 3 is there in ubuntu 11.10..?
[06:07] <vsync> devan which version you on?
[06:08] <devan> 10.04
[06:08] <almoxarife> ibm: not sure? should have come with 11.04
[06:08] <vsync> so edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add:
[06:08] <vsync> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pmcenery/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[06:08] <vsync> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/pmcenery/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[06:09] <vsync> and then just apt-get update... and install libmobiledevice
[06:09] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash does anyone now how to fix it please help me someone to fix it
[06:10] <devan> el_seano, "sudo apt-add-repository deb https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa
[06:10] <devan> " doesn't work. :\
[06:10] <vsync> devan just edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually, as i instructed above :p
[06:10] <devan> vsync, missed those instuctions.
[06:11] <vsync> oh, so, add 2 lines to /etc/apt/sources.list:
[06:11] <vsync> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pmcenery/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[06:11] <vsync> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/pmcenery/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[06:11] <me-1> hi..is gnome 3 is there in ubuntu 11.10..?
[06:11] <ibm> when i use programs like firefox and xchat it is working fine but other program get stuck after a while like after 20 minutes openoffice crash for abiword it takes 10-15 minutes to crash does anyone now how to fix it please help me someone to fix it
[06:12] <Girly-Girl> ibm: Which ubuntu version
[06:12] <vsync> ibm can you be more specific, less spam-tastic, or then just gtfo?
[06:12] <devan> dammit... still doesn't see any "libmobiledevice
[06:13] <vsync> did you update the apt tree before you tried?
[06:13] <vsync> apt-get update?
[06:13] <Girly-Girl> me-1: Gnome 3 yes but not the interface gnome-shell
[06:13] <devan> vsync, "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/pmcenery/ppa/ubuntu lucid main"
 11.04
[06:13] <Girly-Girl> me-1: So gnome 3 programs with unity interface
[06:13] <devan> oh, sorry
[06:13] <devan> "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4EA3A911D48B8E25
[06:13] <devan> "
 what do you mean more
 11.04
[06:14] <Girly-Girl> ibm: Please be more specific rather than saying everything does not work!
[06:14] <me-1> Girly-Girl,  why cononical is pushing unity so hard..?
[06:14] <edbian> me-1: Because they believe in it! :)
[06:14] <Girly-Girl> me-1: This is a support channel, if you want to talk about that, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:15] <vsync> devan sec
[06:15] <_schism_> good morning everyone
 the program stops to work expect xchat and firefox
[06:15] <Girly-Girl> ibm: Is this hppening recently of after you did something
[06:16] <almoxarife> ibm: un-install the bad programs, install libreoffice
[06:16] <vsync> devan: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 1024R/D48B8E25
[06:16] <vsync> and then apt-get update
 no just after upgrading to 11.04
[06:17] <almoxarife> ibm: un-install the bad programs, install libreoffice
[06:18] <devan> vsync, ran it, still says public key is not available
 but i also have xubuntu and kubuntu not only ubuntu
[06:18] <Girly-Girl> ibm: I think you should enable aport (google that) and report it as a bug on launchpad
[06:18] <Girly-Girl> ibm: does kde work fine?
[06:18] <devan> vsync, see this after running the key command: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 1024R/D48B8E25"
[06:19] <devan> sorry, I see this: "gpg: "1024R/D48B8E25" not a key ID: skipping
[06:19] <devan> " vsync
[06:19] <vsync> ehhh sorry
[06:19] <vsync> devan: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys D48B8E25
[06:19] <vsync> there =D
[06:19] <blsh0p> hey you guys how can i edit the terminal settings?
[06:19] <blsh0p> like make it a different color ect.
 i think i have both kde and gnome hard to tell because only one starts at time
[06:20] <devan> vsync, awesome, that all seems to work.
[06:20] <edbian> blsh0p: You're using gnome-terminal ?
[06:20] <blsh0p> yes
[06:20] <almoxarife> ibm: do you want all of them to start at once?
[06:20] <edbian> blsh0p: edit -
[06:20] <blsh0p> thats it?
[06:20] <edbian> blsh0p: edit -> profile preferences
[06:21] <vsync> yeah, then just update and install libmobiledevice :p
[06:21] <devan> vsync, apt-get update works now, but still no "libmobiledevice" found in repos.....
[06:21] <devan> D:
[06:21] <blsh0p> oh wow
[06:21] <blsh0p> thanks edbian
[06:21] <vsync> hmm wtf
[06:21] <edbian> blsh0p: sure :)  Next time look around first :D
[06:21] <blsh0p> i really should have figured that out lol, thanks
[06:21] <blsh0p> got it, for sure
[06:21] <vsync> oh man, mornings are not for me. The package is libimobiledevice
[06:21] <vsync> :D sorry man, monday morning
[06:22] <vsync> though in any case you need the pmcenery repo to install it wasn't done for nothing
[06:22] <_schism_> I have an odd problem that I cant seem to get google to help me with.  Just installed 10.04 on a G4V300-D motherboard.  onboard nic worked great.  did an update and rebooted now its like it doesnt even see the nic no matter which lernel I boot into. anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[06:23] <Girly-Girl> vsync: How do I change force a vsync refresh rate if it is not available in settings? Ubuntu has incorrectly detected my monitor vsync modes
 no i mean that when restarting the computer it shows sometime edubuntu and sometimes xubuntu or ubuntu before the log in screen
[06:23] <vsync> Girly-Girl xorg.conf
[06:24] <Girly-Girl> vsync: Auto configured display something like that in there
[06:24] <vsync> devan did you get that installed? :D
[06:25] <devan> vsync, still doesn't see libmobiledevice
[06:25] <vsync> Girly-Girl yeah, consult a manpage or something, i can't recall the correct options
[06:25] <devan> no such package found. :(
[06:25] <vsync> devan no yeah that was my bad too, it's libimobiledevice :D
[06:25] <vsync> i'm a bit drowsy still I think :(
[06:26] <devan> vsync, that's not found either. :\
[06:26] <devan> lib i mobile device
[06:27] <devan> there are lots of other libimobiledevice packages, though... dev, doc, utiles, etc....
[06:27] <devan> @vsync
[06:27] <Girly-Girl> vsync: Ok thanks, thought you might know as your nickname is vsync!
[06:28] <danishbacker> how to remove custom sign-up location hook and use default in wordpress?
 how can i repair all the program package or install it again
[06:29] <gsommer> Last Friday, I asked for help about getting hibernation to work on my laptop. I was told to make sure my swap partition is at-least the same size as my RAM... It is not (4.5g swap, 4gb RAM). But, resume from hibernation still does not work. How can I debug this further ?
[06:29] <ibm> how can i repair all the program package or install it again
[06:29] <gsommer> now == now :/
[06:29] <gsommer> not==now... ffs...
[06:29] <ex0> swap should be 1.5 times your ram atleast
[06:29] <ex0> btw
 how can i repair all the program package or install it again
[06:30] <gsommer> ex0: For hibernation to work ?
 : I told that swap should be double that of ram..
[06:30] <vsync> devan install the -utils
[06:31] <gsommer> ex0: According to this - it just needs to be the same size: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
 how can i repair all the program package or install it again
[06:31] <gsommer> So, how do I go about debugging resume from hibernation ?
 how can i repair all the program package or install it again
[06:31] <IdleOne> !repeat | ibm
[06:31] <Logan_> !se | ibm
[06:32] <gsommer> The last I see in pm-suspend.log is "performing hibernate"
[06:32] <js_> svenskT
[06:33] <Polah> ibm: sudo apt-get purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>
[06:33] <vsync> devan if i recall correct, idevicepair is in the libimobiledevice-utils package
 : Which Ubuntu version are you using ?
[06:34] <devan> vsync... finally.
[06:34] <Girly-Girl> ibm: Install again with the install disk, repair sudo apt-get install -f
[06:34] <gsommer> Singham: 11.04 I think it was calles..
 <Girly-Girl> with one is better
[06:35] <devan> vsync... can run the command now... but still don't see iphone. gaaahahahhafhha..fhafhafjdf..
[06:35] <vsync> what did you run
 what is the different
[06:36] <devan> idevicepair unpair
[06:36] <devan> idevicepair pair
[06:36] <devan> @vsync
[06:36] <Singham> gsommer : Have you tried this : http://thecodecentral.com/2011/01/18/fix-ubuntu-10-10-suspendhibernate-not-working-bug
[06:36] <vsync> do idevicepair validate
[06:36] <vsync> then unplug/plug
[06:37] <vsync> to devan thst was
[06:37] <vsync> that
[06:37] <devan> vsync.... awesome, I just saw the icon pop up on the desktop....
[06:37] <kopo> exit
 but i want to repair all the programs not only one
[06:37] <vsync> devan and? =o
[06:38] <devan> vsync, I can't believe how much effort that took... seems like it was supposed to be so simple. thanks for hanging in there with me.
[06:38] <vsync> so works?
 but i want to repair or reinstall all the programs not only one
[06:39] <vsync> ibm rm -rf /
[06:39] <vsync> does the trick
[06:39] <edbian> vsync: stop that
[06:39] <Polah_> ibm: Sorry, I got dropped and missed everything between me asking what the problem was and you saying "but I want to repair or reinstall all the programs...", repeat if you like
[06:39] <edbian> !danger
[06:39] <edbian> ibm: don't run that
[06:39] <vsync> he said reinstall too... It just requires a bit more thorough reinstall
 why is it something bad
[06:40] <edbian> ibm: it erases the entire harddrive
[06:40] <edbian> ibm: well, the entire ubuntu install anyway
[06:40]  * vsync is not sure do you need --no-preserve-root :)
[06:40] <Polah_> edbian: It would delete files from mounted drives as well, wouldn't it?
[06:41] <vsync> Polah_ yes if they are mounted with w
[06:41] <vsync> or, "not-ro"
[06:41] <edbian> Polah_: yes, it would try anyway
[06:41] <Polah> not-ro? You mean rw?
[06:41] <vsync> yes
[06:42] <vsync> but, with write, anyway, gotta run off to work
 why does <vsync> want that
[06:42] <edbian> ibm: I have no idea.  Don't ever run that
[06:43] <vsync> ibm because to me it looks like you've fubar'd your system to oblivion, or then it's just some simple stuff you fail to do. In any case, a full reinstall could be the easiest way out
[06:44] <devan> vsync, well... nautilus shows the ipod, but won't open it. rhythmbox plays music off it, but can't seem to put music on it (just says nothing and won't do it, though I can make a playlist and not put anything it and rename it...)... banshee doesn't seem to see it. :\
[06:44] <edbian> vsync: that command is not helpful even if he was going to reinstall
[06:44] <vsync> edbian at least it would force to reinstall
 please can you help me i want to repair or reinstall all the program package how can i do that
[06:44] <edbian> vsync: Are we really having this conversation?
[06:45] <edbian> ibm: every package?  reinstall using the liveCD
[06:45] <gsommer> Singham: That post relates to the system baing unable to suspend - due to USB2 drivers. This is not my case... suspend works fine, but RESUME from hibernation does not. (Well, hibernation does not work... dunno if it writes the data to RAM(
[06:45] <rww> vsync: Uttering commands like that in #ubuntu is a good way to get banned from #ubuntu. I do not recommend it.
[06:45] <edbian> gsommer: hibernate writes to the hdd (swap to be specific)
[06:45] <xxzz> hi, whats gufw like gui for kde
[06:45] <gsommer> eboyjr: Yes, I know that...
[06:45] <eboyjr> gsommer: Good
[06:46] <gsommer> woops...
[06:46] <gsommer> Stupid nick complete...
 i do not have a livecd can i do it in an other way
[06:46] <eboyjr> Stop using xchat
[06:46] <gsommer> Anyway, yes edbian I know that - but I don't know how to debug that? since it seems it's not working
[06:46] <bouma> ive been trying to install onto a new amd64 with no cdrom, no usb device (onlt a 500g segate freedrive that has 3xx gb that would have to be backedup first. how can i write the iso or any iso onto a sata partition, any partition type just to get it to boot when placed in another amd64 from this i386
[06:46] <gsommer> I don't know if it's the suspend part, or the resume part that is broken
 i do not have a livecd can i do it in an other way
[06:47] <edbian> ibm: Ummm, let me think
[06:47] <Polah> ibm: Get the ISO and boot it through GRUB without a disc or USB drive
[06:47] <edbian> gsommer: I don't either :(
[06:47] <gsommer> So, how should I go about debugging this ? How can I check ubuntu actually writes the data to RAM ?
[06:47] <bouma> can i dd an iso to a partition ??
[06:47] <bouma> make it active
[06:47] <bouma> shouldnt it boot ?!^
[06:47] <edbian> ibm: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-reinstall-all-of-currently-installed-packages-in-fresh-ubuntu-install.html
[06:47] <xxzz> can someone please help me ufw rule here, I want to make 'block in quick on $ext_if from any to any
[06:48] <xxzz> s/help me with
[06:48] <xxzz> or whats the gui for ufw in kde4
[06:48] <stephens2424> I'm working with a new install of Ubuntu on a vps. I've ssh'd into it and am trying to install things with apt-get. The error messages I'm getting from that and from things like ping lead me to think it's not able to connect to anything. New to linux, I'm pretty lost and don't know where to go from here. Any ideas on where I should look?
 but i want to keep other program to not only the standart
[06:49] <edbian> ibm: That tutorial will not remove any files / packages
 ok what was it i have lost it
[06:50] <silvery> Somebody pls tell me - what hapened to ubuntu website?
[06:50] <edbian> ibm: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-reinstall-all-of-currently-installed-packages-in-fresh-ubuntu-install.html
[06:51] <edbian> silvery: looks like it's down!
[06:51] <edbian> conspiracy time!
[06:51] <Polah> silvery: Evidently it is offline more maintenance or because Drupal broke.
[06:51] <Polah> edbian: Must be evil wizards
[06:51] <devan> vsync, well... nautilus shows the ipod, but won't open it. rhythmbox plays music off it, but can't seem to put music on it (just says nothing and won't do it, though I can make a playlist and not put anything it and rename it...)... banshee doesn't seem to see it. :\
[06:52] <edbian> Polah: I think it's underground mole people
[06:52] <devan> nautilus will open it now.
[06:52] <silvery> Polah : yeah, I can read it from information page, but do you have more info on this?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Devan: do you have ifuse installed?
[06:52] <Polah> silvr
[06:52] <Polah> er
[06:52] <devan> ActionParsnip, what is it, and is it necessary?
[06:52] <Polah> sk.v
[06:52] <devan> ActionParsnip, never heard of it.
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> !info ifuse
[06:52] <Polah> silvery: Nope, sorry.
[06:53] <SetiAmon> hey i had it before but forgot its name(system crashed hard and had to reinstall everything!)
[06:53] <devan> installed it, ActionParsnip, should it be a magic bullet to let me write to iphone now or something?
[06:53] <SetiAmon> what is the name of the app that lets you set and change boot options,i mean graphical like boot splash,grub splash etc(not boot apps!) so i can customize my graphical boot
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> Devan: no idea. I don't buy apple stuff. That's all i know
[06:54] <gsommer> hmm, my swap is encrypted on Ubuntu 11.04 ?  it seems to be using a /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 device... ?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Setiamon: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-add-a-splash-image-to-grub-2-on-ubuntu-9.04
[06:56] <TIP88> hello
[06:56] <SetiAmon> it was startup manager but my appearence tab is gone
[06:56] <SetiAmon> wth
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Setimon: the files are easy to edit. The guide is simple
[06:58] <SetiAmon> yeah i'll bookmark it
[06:58] <SetiAmon> startup manager doesn't work on 11.04
[06:58] <SetiAmon> well basic things
[06:59] <stephens2424> I'm working with a new install of Ubuntu on a vps. I've ssh'd into it and am trying to install things with apt-get. The error messages I'm getting from that and from things like ping lead me to think it's not able to connect to anything. New to linux, I'm pretty lost and don't know where to go from here. Any ideas on where I should look?
[06:59] <gsommer> aha, figured it out... Hibernation is broken in Ubuntu, if you choose to encrypt your home-partition -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/31424/does-hibernate-work-with-an-encrypted-home-dir-in-maverick
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Setimon: never used it personally. Grub is on the screen for 3 seconds here so I don't really see value in making it pretty
[07:00] <bhavesh__> I cannot log into GNOME3 shell after selecting GNOME in my login preferences after installing gnome -shell in ubuntu 11.10
[07:00] <bhavesh__> it boots into unity again..
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> bhavesh__: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything oneiric
[07:07] <devan> OHMYGOSH why can't I copy anything to my iphone dammit?!? I can read everything, but nothing works to paste, no error messages, just... won't do anything. ?! $!?L4 1
[07:08] <devan> in rhythmbox...
[07:08] <devan> banshee won't see anything, amarok seems not to load...
[07:08] <Corey> devan: Did you have a Ubuntu related question? :-)
[07:09] <devan> Corey, considering I'm in Ubuntu, I think that counts?
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Devan: probably because iphone sucks and is so entwined with itunes that it kicks and screams if you try and use it in anything else
[07:10] <devan> ActionParsnip, I'm well aware, it was a free phone, certainly not my choice... just trying to simply copy some files to some old free hardware because it's what I have...
[07:10] <sebastian> hello
[07:10] <sebastian> somebody here?
[07:10] <sebastian> I need help
[07:10] <Gentoo64> hi
[07:10] <Corey> !ask | sebastian
[07:10] <devan> ActionParsnip, ubuntu claimed out of the box support for this model anyways, so they asked for it...
[07:10] <biami> how do i run webGL on chrome?
[07:11] <Gentoo64> biami, should work out the box
[07:12] <Gentoo64> biami, type about:gpuinternals
[07:12] <Gentoo64> itll tell you if its enabled or not
[07:12] <biami> how do i run webGL on chrome? i have an Intel HD Graphics (that comes inbuilt)... even libosmesa doesnt seem to work... it works in Firefox
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Devan: could try connecting it to itunes to calm it down then use the safely remove hardware feature in the OS so that it is unmounted cleanly. Then try it in ubuntu
[07:12] <biami> gpuinternals: command not found
[07:12] <Gentoo64> biami, about:gpu-internals
[07:12] <Gentoo64> sorry
[07:12] <almoxarife> biami: http://www.m0interactive.com/archives/2009/10/26/how_to_enable_webgl_on_google_chrome/  <-- that help?
[07:13] <devan> If I had itunes, I wouldn't even try the madness of getting it to work in ubuntu. I don't have any other OS right now.
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Devan: is ubuntu installed in a virtual system or is it a true install?
[07:13] <sebastian> OK, I CANT MAKE AN .EXE FILE EXECUTABLE, I MAKE IT RIGHT CLICK, PROPERTIES, PERMISSIONS, BUT IT DOESNT APPEAR THE BOX TO CHECK IT
[07:13] <Corey> !caps | sebastian
[07:13] <almoxarife> .exe file :)
[07:13] <Corey> sebastian: Also realize you'll need an emulation layer to execute windows binaries, such as WINE or virtualbox.
[07:13] <sebastian> yes yes
[07:13] <sebastian> I have wine
[07:14] <Corey> !winehq | sebastian
[07:14] <sebastian> I have it
[07:14] <sebastian> but to run an .exe file I need to make it executable
[07:14] <almoxarife> sebastian: you don't own the folder?
[07:14] <Corey> sebastian: Might be better to get support for it there. :-)
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> sebastian: what filesystem is the file stored on. Don't post in caps next time too. Its usually makes people NOT want to help
[07:15] <sebastian> I think I own the folder
[07:15] <Gentoo64> biami, i meant type that in the chrom address bar not terminal btw
[07:15] <almoxarife> sebastian: you better re-check
[07:15] <sebastian> I recently upgraded to xubuntu, In ubuntu 10.04 I was able to make it but now in xubuntu the option doesnt appear
[07:15] <biami> ok... then... wait
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Sebastian: what filesystem is the file stored in?
[07:16] <almoxarife> sebastian: that's an option in nautilus?
[07:16] <sebastian> Yes, becaouse to run an exe file you need to mark a permission, and it doesnt appear to me anymore
[07:17] <sebastian> the file is the ares galaxy instaleer
[07:17] <sebastian> installer
[07:17] <Gentoo64> sebastian, where is the file, in /home?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Sebastian: will you kindly answer my question
[07:17] <Gentoo64> if not do sudo chmod +x
[07:17] <sebastian> Actionparsnip I think I quite dont understand your question, english is not my native language
[07:18] <sebastian> gentoo64 the file is in my downloads folder
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Sebastian: ok ill make it simple. Do you dual boot (have windows installed as well as ubuntu)
[07:18] <almoxarife> sebastian: specific file location of the .exe file is where?
[07:18] <chalcedony> is anyone good with sound? i need help getting my computer's sound to work. as far as i know its pulseaudio, but someone had me bring up alsamixer in conso
[07:18] <chalcedony> le and it shows headphones as grayed out, and m and alt f2 don't do anything. desktop ubuntu 11.04, 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) - Sound Preferences Hardware is set to Analog Stereo Duplex. i was messing with that, trying to get it not to sound like glass smashing on foil, and it quit working.
[07:19] <wolfric> lol anyone see http://www.ubuntu.com/
[07:19] <wolfric> Site off-line
[07:19] <wolfric> The site is currently not available due to technical problems. Please try again later. Thank you for your understanding.
[07:19] <chalcedony> wolfric, you broke it again?!
[07:19] <sebastian> Actionparsnip I dont do it, I only have xubuntu installed
[07:19] <sebastian> /home/sebastian/Dowloads
[07:19] <sebastian> there is my file
[07:20] <wolfric> chalcedony: i just wanted to see what would happen if i poured coke instead of water this time on it
[07:20] <Gentoo64> wolfric, you can download it somewhere else
[07:20] <wolfric> chalcedony: apparently the same thing
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Sebastian ok that makes life easier. Whom is the owner of the file?
[07:20] <chalcedony> wolfric, next time try milk
[07:20] <Gentoo64> sebastian, chowm the file to your user and see if it helps
[07:20] <wolfric> chalcedony: seriously though, first time i've seen ubuntu down and i REALLY need it to be up
[07:20] <Gentoo64> wolfric, why?
[07:20] <Gentoo64> google cache?
[07:21] <cricido> hello
[07:21] <wolfric> Gentoo64: i'm giving a talk that'll be introducing ubuntu
[07:21] <Gentoo64> lol
[07:21] <wolfric> Gentoo64: it'll look horiffic if ubuntu is actualy down when i do it
[07:21] <Gentoo64> yes would be funny
[07:21] <sebastian> Actionparsnip and Gentoo64 Im already owner of the file,
[07:21] <wolfric> horrific*
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Sebastian: you do realize that is just a client for the gnutella network?
[07:21] <cricido> i have a problem with my pc is botting i hava busybox :)
[07:21] <Gentoo64> sebastian, i dont know then
[07:21] <cricido> anyone can help me
[07:21] <cricido> ?
[07:22] <Gentoo64> wolfric, when is the talk?
[07:22] <widi> test
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> cricido: did you install ubuntu with wubi?
[07:22] <cricido> no
[07:22] <chalcedony> wolfric, cheat, use the wayback machine site
[07:23] <Girly-Girl> cricido: What's the problem?
[07:23] <cricido> but i have installed ubuntu more time
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> cricido: great. The omgubuntu site has a guide on how to boot livecd or liveusb to reinstate grub
[07:23] <sveinse> How can I delete my BT mouse from Bluetooth Preferences? I select Remove, but it isn't deleted. I need to re-add the mouse to be able to pair the mouse...
[07:24] <cricido> i can start old ubuntu version
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Sebastian: gnutell is a standard network. There are native Linux clients so you don't
[07:24] <cricido> i have a 10.10 and 10.04
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Sebastian: you don't
[07:24] <chalcedony> actually sound works for announcing in pidgin, but not xchat or youtube.
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Need the file or wine
[07:25] <Atharva> Hi...I want to play music and videos in terminal.(ie without any player like rhythmbox). Is it possible ?
[07:25] <Gentoo64> Atharva, aplay
[07:25] <cricido> on same hd
[07:25] <Gentoo64> Atharva, i use cmus its ncurses based and fast
[07:25] <__Alex_> Atharva: Mplayer
[07:25] <cricido> and 10.10 is work
[07:26] <cricido> the precise error is initramfs
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Atharva: vlc-nox  and mplayer can play sounds in terminal. You can also watch video in terminal too (even without X)
[07:26] <__Alex_> with AALib
[07:27] <cricido> anyona have a quick solution :)=
[07:27] <Gentoo64> Atharva, http://imgur.com/k2sGs
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: can you give a pastebin of the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf'
[07:28] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, ok
[07:28] <sveinse> Where does BT store its config/devices?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> cricido: run: sudo update-grub    see if it helps
[07:29] <Gentoo64> cricido, reinstall
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: what is bt?
[07:29] <Gentoo64> unless you want to redo initramfs
[07:29] <Stanley00> what happened to www.ubuntu.com? I cant access it...
[07:29] <cricido> ok ActionParsnip i try
 : Great... Is there any site which can guide me for it's installation and running ?
[07:29] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Bluetooth
[07:29] <AngryNET> yo whattup
[07:29] <Gentoo64> Atharva, cmus is better for music imo and i use mplayer2 for videos. http://cmus.sourceforge.net/
[07:29] <AngryNET> is ubuntu still giving out free dvds
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Stanley00: maintenance maybe
[07:30] <__Alex_> Why get DVDs, if you can use a USB stick with GRUB? :)
[07:31] <Stanley00> ActionParsnip: hmm, I hope so...
[07:31] <Gentoo64> i dont think so
[07:31] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/KATK0a4t
[07:31] <AngryNET> alex i order a lot of dvds and show em to my friends and say im a ubuntu dev thats why they gimme lot of dvds
[07:31] <LinprayerxX> hi@all
[07:31] <Gentoo64> __Alex_, some people prefer dvds.. i do :)
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> __Alex_: why use any media when you can pxe boot :-)
 : I have installed cmus...How to operate it ?
[07:31] <taraduffy> Hi, I've downloaded driver software for a canon printer but dont know how to install, can anyone walk me through it please?
[07:32] <__Alex_> AngryNET: Good idea.
[07:32] <Gentoo64> Atharva, go to that site i linked it tells you. it can cache all your music, but i use it without the caching. press 5 and you can press enter / backspace to go through your music
 : Does it play videos ?
[07:33] <Gentoo64> Atharva, no only music
[07:33] <Gentoo64> i use that with mplayer2
 : Ok...let me try that.. :)
[07:34] <cricido> upgrade-grup dowsen't work
[07:34] <Arrnas> my wireless card doesn't turn on after i restart or suspend, it only works if i delete wlon login information and restart. any ideas what could be causing this?
[07:35] <Gentoo64> cricido, if its on the intiramfs its already past grub
[07:35] <KrayonWork> Can anyone else confirm that profiles are broken in firefox version 7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1~mfs1 ?
 : And one more thing....How can i use terminal as web browser.. ?
[07:35] <Girly-Girl> profiles are NOT broken in firefox version 7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1~mfs1
[07:35] <Gentoo64> Atharva, theres a few browsers like links, lynx, w3m
[07:36] <KrayonWork> Girly-Girl: Well, they don't work :P  Has the functionality changed?
[07:36] <Gentoo64> Atharva, w3m is good for general browsing
[07:36] <cricido> Gentoo64 onother ideas
[07:36] <cricido> ?
[07:36] <Gentoo64> reinstall
[07:36] <Gentoo64> idk much about initram
[07:36] <cricido> :(
[07:36] <__Alex_> Atharava: I use Lynx
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfred; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[07:36] <Girly-Girl> KrayonWork: was working for me but I'm not sure if I have same build can't check now I'm on Xp
[07:36] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, ty
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Arrnas: try unloading then reloading the module driving it
[07:37] <Gentoo64> KrayonWork, tr deleting profile?
[07:38] <KrayonWork> Gentoo64: I tried that, still no luck.
[07:38] <yacc> Wondered what the correct channel is for a 10.04LTS with a backported 2.6.38 kernel?
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Taraduffy: extract the files and you will see an install script. Run it with sudo
[07:38] <ikonia> !info linux-image lucid
[07:38] <Gentoo64> KrayonWork, i had an ff update yesterday for 7.0.1 (not uubntu though) that fixed a load of bugs, its probably related to that
[07:38] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, Download done.
[07:38] <chalcedony> Flash Plugin installed.
[07:38] <chalcedony> llhull@llhull:~$
[07:39] <ikonia> yacc: I guess your in the right place, but backports.....of the kernel, you may have issues
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: close all browsers and rerun to load the plugin. Is it better?
[07:39] <ikonia> yacc: is it from the backports repo, or an external/PPA ?
[07:40] <chalcedony> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-nonfred
[07:40] <Gentoo64> chalcedony, typo?
[07:40] <ikonia> chalcedony: flashplugin-nonfree
[07:40] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, still ok to close?
[07:40] <chalcedony> ah
[07:40] <chalcedony> ok ill try that one
[07:40] <taraduffy> ActionParsnip: thanks! I can see an install.sh flie, can you baby me through the install, I am not sure how to do it.
[07:40] <KrayonWork> Gentoo64: Just updated, still no good.
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: did you copy and paste the command as one?
[07:40] <Gentoo64> KrayonWork, they may not have been fixed yet on ubuntu
[07:40] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, yes
[07:41] <mohammad> my shortcuts don't work no more :(
[07:41] <chalcedony> it didn't find fred though
[07:41] <Gentoo64> i tested the live builf of ff yesterday cant believe its at 10 lol
[07:41] <Guest16112> my shortcuts don't work no more :(
[07:41] <ikonia> yacc: I don't see the 2.6.38 kernel in the lucid backports repo
 How to use mplayer ?
[07:41] <Gentoo64> Atharva, just type mplayer then the path to the file
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[07:42] <yacc> ikonia, lucid-proposed, and the first glaring problem is that nouveau did not come up, hence with a generic fbdev X I've got only one display mirrored on two panels, ...
[07:42] <Guest16112> after a restart i saw them don't work!!
[07:42] <Gentoo64> Atharva, is it pure cli? im not sure about how to get it to run in console framebuffer never tried it
[07:42] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, flashplugin64-installer is already the newest version.
[07:42] <Guest16112> e.g inside qt ctrl + s do not save the file
[07:42] <ikonia> yacc: I wouldn't be using things out of proposed
[07:42] <yacc> ikonia, the drm module seems to have loaded fine, and with proposed enabled, there are no updates for packages containing nouveau in it's name.
[07:43] <rww> running -proposed is not a good idea, at all, unless you like breakage. it's also not supported here.
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> taraduffy: use terminal. Use: cd   to go into a folder. When you are in the folder with the script, run: sudo scriptname
[07:43] <yacc> ikonia, okay, my ext4 fs with external SSD journal crashes the box at some random point, usually less than 12 hours from boot with the regular kernels.
[07:43] <KrayonWork> Gentoo64: I guess that could be the issue.  How long do Ubuntu usually take to do new builds?  I can't believe it's like this again.  I've seen this issue at least once before, back in v2 days IIRC :/
[07:43] <yacc> ikonia, googling around the problem "ext4 with fast discs" seems to be fixed by later kernels, ...
[07:44] <yacc> ikonia, but without a working X, it's somehow a non-starter.
[07:44] <Gentoo64> KrayonWork, afaik ubuntu patches them for security / stability not sure how often
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: ok, now if you rerun the first command i gave you, do you only have flashplugin64-installer
[07:44] <ikonia> yacc: as you're using an LTS release, I'd log a bug and push it through, and if it IS a kernel bug the fix may get back ported as an update, rather than a whole kernel update from proposed
[07:44] <KrayonWork> Gentoo64: This isn't my machine, is this version an official Ubuntu thing or a third party, do you know?
[07:44] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, i'll take a look
[07:45] <Gentoo64> KrayonWork, if its not from a ppa and from standard repos then you should get official updates
[07:45] <KrayonWork> Gentoo64: TBH I don't really know, I'm an Arch user trying to get around this Ubuntu thing :P
[07:45] <taraduffy> ActionParsnip: its on my desktop, in a folder called "Driver", what is the CD command?
[07:46] <LinprayerxX> i am new at irc can someone tell me , is there an german irc for ubuntu and what had i have to done i use xchat . thanks for now
[07:46] <Asuk88> hi all some one know irc of anonymous?
[07:46] <Flannel> LinprayerxX: /join #ubuntu-de
[07:46] <yacc> ikonia, lol, how long will that take? Although the HDD+SSD journal setup will be becoming more popular, it's the cheapest way to upgrade the hdd usability, ...
[07:46] <Gentoo64> KrayonWork, if theres a bug theres not much you can do apart from wait or submit a big report
[07:46] <Gentoo64> bug*
[07:46] <LinprayerxX> thx
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> taraduffy: cd ~/Desktop/Driver
[07:46] <ikonia> yacc: it will take as long as it takes, you can push it through by working with people, so I guess it is as quick as you can gather and motivate people
[07:47] <KrayonWork> How can I ascertain where it came from?
[07:48] <Gentoo64> KrayonWork, i have no idea what / if ubuntu does to the files
[07:48] <taraduffy> ActionParsnip: OK, done. Now how do I run the install.sh?
[07:49] <Gentoo64> ./install.sh
[07:49] <yacc> ikonia, my experience with reporting bugs on launchpad has been that the ubuntu guys have no qualms to merge bugs that are obviously not related (and/or at least not enough investigated to decide that), so if you've got a laptop that has a thermic issue (which is obviously software caused, because older kernels do not have it), you get merged into one huge bug that contains everything from broken software, missing driver support and true software issues.
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> taraduffy: chmod +x ./install.sh; sudo ./install.sh
[07:49] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, i can't tell, it looks happy is all i can say
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: sounds an all?
[07:49] <yacc> ikonia, curiously that "merged bug" never moved forward for years, guess this is by design so (if you merge different issues into one bug you'll have problems to manage it).
[07:50] <chalcedony> not sure ActionParsnip - restarting firefox
[07:50] <ikonia> yacc: I've found that you get what you put into the bug system, if you log a bug and just keep putting info on it, nothing will happen, if you log a bug with info, find the right people to work with and help push it through, it gets fixed. I don't believe the model is an acceptable model, but it is how it is
[07:51] <yacc> ikonia, so how does one find "the right people"?
[07:51] <yacc> bb, the dog needs a walk
[07:51] <ikonia> yacc: read on the mailing lists, look at previous bugs, look who's working on the current kernel updates, ask for input,contacts, just basic hussle
[07:51] <Guest16112> why ubuntu is so unstable????
[07:52] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, IT WORKS!!!
 : Thanks dude... :)
[07:52] <Gentoo64> Atharva, get it working?
[07:52] <Gentoo64> Guest16112, whats the problem?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip>  Guest16112 which release are you using?
[07:52] <Guest16112> Gentoo64: every thing!!
[07:52] <Guest16112> Gentoo64:  programs crash
[07:52] <Gentoo64> 11.04?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: sweet :-)
 : cmus is... mplayer is installed but I am unable to operate it :(
[07:53] <dr_willis> !details
[07:53] <Guest16112> Gentoo64: yep 11.04
[07:53] <Gentoo64> Atharva, is it pure cli you're using?
[07:53] <Gentoo64> Guest16112, i think the next version comes out in couple weeks
[07:53] <Gentoo64> no idea why 11.04 is so bad
[07:53] <Atharva> cli : IWhat is cli ? I dont know..how to check for it ?
[07:53] <ethanol> I have a keyboard with some special keys like calculator, web, mail and search. how or where could I change the target of for example the search function?
[07:53] <Guest16112> Gentoo64: even synaptic shows errors  on its first run
[07:54] <Gentoo64> Atharva, do you have a desktop running? or just a black console screen
[07:54] <dr_willis> they hurried up unity to get it tested out asap
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: if you run: history    you can copy the command i gave and store it for when you want to reinstall the OS
 :Desktop is running :)
[07:54] <Guest16112> Gentoo64: i think the next version keeps most of the problems
[07:54] <Gentoo64> Atharva, why do you need terminal apps? to run mplayer type mplayer than path to file
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest16112: tried maverick?
[07:55] <Gentoo64> Atharva, eg: mplayer /videos/etc
[07:55] <ethanol> 11.04 runs perfectly fine for me.
[07:55] <Guest16112> ActionParsnip: no! what is that?
[07:55] <ethanol> don't understand why people QQ so much :<
[07:55] <zagibu> because it's different
[07:55] <Gentoo64> because it sucks for most people
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | Guest16112
[07:56] <zagibu> they want it to be new, but exactly the same as before
[07:56] <Gentoo64> makes them cry
[07:56] <ethanol> I like unity, it's not as fancy as fedora's new gnome3 approach, but still it's nice.
[07:56] <Guest16112> ActionParsnip: you say i downgrade my ubuntu?
[07:56] <Gentoo64> Guest16112, 10.10 was a reliable one
[07:57] <zagibu> if you hate 11.04 so much, why not?
[07:57] <Guest16112> ActionParsnip: all .04s are ustables?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest16112: maverick is a bit older and is pretty solid. It will require a reinstall to achieve
[07:57] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, thank you i copied it to somewhere safe :)
[07:57] <dr_willis> i would think you have a bad install or flakey hardware if core tools like stnaptic are crashing
[07:57] <ethanol> why not just use 11.04 with classic interface?
[07:58] <ethanol> if unity bothers you
[07:58] <Gentoo64> Guest16112, id run memtest. have you overclocked the ram or cpu?
 : Consider I am on cli...then how to play ?
[07:58] <Guest16112> Gentoo64: nope! none.
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> ethanol: its not a bother, its unstable apparently
[07:58] <Gentoo64> Atharva, type mplayer /file
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> ethanol: worth a try though
[07:59] <Gentoo64> Atharva, use tab complete
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest16112: have you tried ubuntu classic session?
[07:59] <Gentoo64> Atharva, or if you have a desktop, click on the file from file manager and choose open with and type mplayer (thats what i do)
[08:00] <Guest16112> ActionParsnip: hmm, no!
[08:00] <Guest16112> ActionParsnip: classic you mean before 11.04??
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest16112: log off, click your name then at the bottom midle click that and select ubuntu classic
[08:01] <Guest16112> ActionParsnip: what's the difference then?
 : I want it to run on a machine with cli only...How to do it for that ?
[08:02] <chalcedony> Guest16112, classic is the way it's been, but with updates inside, runs good
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest16112: no compiz and no unity. See how you get on there
[08:02] <Gentoo64> Atharva, im not sure, it might just work typing mplayer than path to file. ive never tried mplayer in pure console
[08:03] <chalcedony> Atharva, mplayer is fantastic for stuff like dictation in console
 : So where can I get the best Information about it ??
[08:03] <Gentoo64> google
[08:03] <Gentoo64> mplayer console
[08:03] <burg> hello. how can i retrieve pppoe password stored in ubuntu with pppoeconf ?
[08:04] <Gentoo64> Atharva, you might have to mess with some settings to get it working in console im not sure
[08:04] <Guest16112> ActionParsnip: ok. thanks for replies. but you know, people around me use windows and make fun of ubuntu because of its programs crashes and unstability
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest16112: if the OS is stable then we have some suspects
[08:04] <Gentoo64> lol
[08:05] <Guest16112> ActionParsnip: you say windows is not a better one?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest16112: i bet they all use firefox and vlc though ;-)
 : And one more thing..Can I minimize the cmus in cli or I have to completely quit it to start another application ?
[08:06] <Gentoo64> Atharva, you have to quit (q then y)
[08:06] <chalcedony> Guest16112, you are talking about the oldest battle, my os is better than your os
[08:06] <Gentoo64> Atharva, or use another terminal
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Guest16112: better o
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Better one what?
 : But in cli, I think only one terminal is available for operation...isn't it ?
[08:07] <Gentoo64> Atharva, ctrl + alt + f1-f12
[08:07] <chalcedony> Guest16112, i'm glad there are many os's and as many ways as there are users to use and enjoy them, pick what is right for you - ubuntu is awesome and no viruses and defragging
[08:07] <Guest16112> chalcedony: yes its an old one, :D i know.
[08:07] <Gentoo64> Atharva, will switch consoles
[08:07] <Gentoo64> Guest16112, what about this old one: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[08:07]  * chalcedony smiles
[08:08] <dumbo88> ztrl-Z ; bg
[08:08] <LukeNukem_> is ubuntu good
[08:08] <LukeNukem_> at all
[08:08] <LukeNukem_> srsly
[08:08] <Atharva> !enter | LukeNukem_
[08:08] <Guest16112> Gentoo64: :)) there's a website for it!
[08:08] <Gentoo64> LukeNukem_, good as in what?
[08:09] <LukeNukem_> Gentoo64, media?
 great work dude...Thanks :)
[08:09] <Gentoo64> ok
[08:09] <Gentoo64> LukeNukem_, what do you mean by media?
[08:09] <LukeNukem_> movies
[08:09] <Gentoo64> ok
[08:09] <Gentoo64> it plays movies
[08:11] <LukeNukem_> Gentoo64, is it good for php
[08:11] <bitmonk> as good as anything is..
[08:11] <Gentoo64> yea its good for most things
[08:11] <yacc> ikonia, well, which mailing lists? LKM?
[08:11]  * bitmonk ducks
[08:12] <yacc> Didn't think that Ubuntu used mailing lists much.
[08:12] <jowop> i cannot for the life of me get this to work on EC2: http://pastebin.com/YJh8FcK8 ...once i reboot the instance it doesn't come back.
[08:13] <somsip> jowop: are you attaching the EBS at startup?
[08:13] <jowop> (after reboot) under EBS Volumes, i'm seeing the four in use by the instance
[08:14] <jowop> is there something that i'm overlooking with that?
[08:14] <seeg> hello
[08:14] <VampsDaBeast> any one know of software that would give me better usablilty in edit metamodes then the nvidia x server config
[08:14] <jowop> all say attached, so i'm assuming that what you've asked is the default behavior
[08:15] <seeg> is there a way to see the differences between files in a ubuntu .deb package and the files currently on the disk?
[08:15] <somsip> jowop: if they're attached sounds ok. Not sure about raid on EC2 as I only have experience with single EBS vols tho
[08:15] <yacc> seeg, there might be a better way, but download the deb, unpack it (deb files are ar archives, man page, google), and then compare the files.
[08:16] <WaltherFI> Is there a command to see which soundcard chip I have? It's integrated and therefore of poor quality, but i'd like to know what it is capable of
[08:16] <yacc> WaltherFI, lspci?
[08:16] <chalcedony> hmm so now i have youtubes that play, but when i click on System > Preferences > Sound - i get a popup that says: Waiting for Sound system to respond.  - i don't have sounds in xchat. :|
[08:16] <jowop> somsip: i think it may be the fstab. i cannot bring up server logs after the reboot :(
[08:16] <WaltherFI> yacc: Not listed in there, as it's integrated
[08:17] <WaltherFI> yacc: it is not a separate pci device
[08:17] <WaltherFI> yacc: i'm on a laptop here
[08:17] <jowop> somsip: The disk drive for /raid is not ready yet or not present
[08:17] <jowop> Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery
[08:17] <yacc> WaltherFI, well, then you can grep /var/log/kernel.log ;)
[08:18] <WaltherFI> yacc: ha, that'll do, thanks
[08:18] <somsip> jowop: Can you see the attached columes on the instance...sudo fdisk -l I guess is the same for RAID?
[08:19] <yacc> WaltherFI, and the lspci should give you the search strings for google => usually, one would hope, a given product does not change overnight it's contents (yes, I know, it's IT, and things like this happens, but hope dies last)
[08:19] <WaltherFI> yacc: ahh, apparently my graphics card does the soundcards job too
[08:19] <VampsDaBeast> yacc, you aware of any programs that make setting up metamodes easier then the nvidia x server settings?
[08:19] <yacc> VampsDaBeast, meta mode?
[08:19] <WaltherFI> yacc: that's why i couldn't see anything related to a soundcard in lspci
[08:19] <VampsDaBeast> for monitors
[08:22] <styol> how do I go about mounting a USB flash drive? It seems like its appearing in lsusb but I'm not sure how to determine what to mount -- some output http://pastie.org/2630895
[08:23] <stianhj> How good is Exchange support in Linux? Started a new job today, everyone uses Macs, and mail/calendar/etc is all Microsoft Exchange..
[08:24] <LukeNukem_> stianhj, Microsoft is good, apple are just beeoches. open source - tha shizz
[08:24] <WaltherFI> stianhj: Everything should work with Thunderbird or Evolution, afaik
[08:24] <WaltherFI> stianhj: I do recommend using Thunderbird though, as it is the upcoming default, evolution will be ditched in 11.10
[08:25] <LukeNukem_> whats better
[08:25] <LukeNukem_> fedora or ubuntu?
[08:25] <auronandace> !poll | LukeNukem_
[08:26] <WaltherFI> LukeNukem_: Also, for an official support channel, we of course will suggest you to use Ubuntu.
[08:26] <seeg> yacc, ok, thank you, i'll try unpacking then ;)
[08:27] <stianhj> WaltherFI: Thunderbird only give IMAP and POP as option when setting up email, not exchange
[08:27] <esheep> hate fedora but it has Gnome Shell, Ubuntu is easier but oh that Unity stuff...
[08:27] <stianhj> tried Evolution mail which couldn't connect to the server for some reason..
[08:28] <stianhj> WaltherFI: i guess i'll google some thunderbird exchange setup
[08:28] <LukeNukem_> at school we got ubuntu :)
[08:28] <esheep> stianhj: evolution isnt easy to get on exchange sometimes
[08:28] <tommyyako47mm> hi
[08:28] <tommyyako47mm> any1 cal tell me hw can reboot firefox..?
[08:29] <LukeNukem_> i had sme problem last time i dual booted with ubuntu and windows..for eg my windows system gave unexpected shutdowns and inside of ubuntu i dint have codecs and i installed a few and they wouldnt work
[08:29] <WaltherFI> stianhj: try this http://radu.cotescu.com/thunderbird-microsoft-exchange/
[08:30] <WaltherFI> stianhj: also, got to go now, sorry
[08:31] <yacc> VampsDaBeast, well, you could always write scripts that manipulate the nvidia settings directly, but what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[08:32] <artypig78> is there a way of forcing a client to delete all cookies/cache thru html/js?
[08:34] <tommyyako47mm> any1 kw how this shit
[08:34] <VampsDaBeast> yacc, and easy way to edit the metamodes, and possibly a shortcut to activate them
[08:34] <japro> hi, i had the update installer install some new stuff, now the system is unreasonable sluggish on my netbook
[08:35] <japro> it seems to consume way more memory than before
[08:35] <japro> even after bootup without starting anything it already  uses 400mb
[08:35] <yacc> VampsDaBeast, as I'm not using the closed-source nvidia stuff, what exactly are meta modes?
[08:36] <VampsDaBeast> metamodes all you to setup different display sets, when using more then one monitor..
[08:36] <japro> top doesn't show a single memory consumer that really stands out
[08:36] <VampsDaBeast> i'm not using the closed either.. i'm using what was available thru the install
[08:39] <japro> no one here with a netbook and the same problem?
[08:39] <japro> very high memory usage after last 11.04 upates?
[08:39] <LukeNukem_> games on ubuntu?
[08:40] <esheep> LukeNukem_: lots lol
[08:41] <hot2trot> does anyone have any solution to the bluetooth A2DP delay I get? My mw600 has like a half second delay when in A2DP version, but regular in mono version
[08:41] <japro> now it uses 600+ MB just to run firefox and xchat
[08:42] <LukeNukem_> esheep, call of duty?
[08:43] <esheep> LukeNukem_: don't run windows games here but, to do that you can try installing wine
[08:44] <emr> Hello, i'm using lucid and i need to update libmemcached greater than 0.32, how i can do that?
[08:44] <japro> can i somehow roll back updates?
[08:46] <almoxarife> japro: like going back a version?
[08:47] <japro> well, yeah, after the most recent upgrades the memory usage and startup times went through the roof and i can't pinpoint the source
[08:47] <almoxarife> japro: what version?
[08:48] <japro> 11.04
[08:48] <japro> it consumes more than 400mb just after startup before running anything additional
[08:49] <almoxarife> japro: really? 11.04 seems to me to be the most worthwhile and I have played with the diff versions
[08:49] <japro> this happened just now after running the updated manager
[08:49] <almoxarife> japro: about 340mb?
[08:49] <japro> the updated manager took forever since it started swapping stuff out
[08:50] <japro> over 400. now it's at 650 with xchat and firefox
[08:50] <almoxarife> japro: 340mb is about what I expect to see at startup on 11.04
[08:51] <almoxarife> japro: firefox eats ram depending on addons, chrome does too
[08:51] <sveinse> How can I reset/purge all bluetooth config from my machine? I cannot uninstall with purge because bluetooth is interwoven into gnome
[08:51] <esheep> japro: how many tabs open on firefox?
[08:51] <japro> esheep, one that displays a stackoverflow page
[08:52] <almoxarife> sveinse: keep it from starting via 'startup apps'
[08:52] <japro> well, maybe this is just normal and i didn't notice before
[08:53] <almoxarife> japro: what I wish existed was a ram economizer, something to pull ram from the cruff
[08:53] <japro> i just never had it start swapping memory before (even running eclipse etc.)
[08:53] <japro> also startup after the update seemed very slow
[08:53] <esheep> almoxarife: its called package manager :)
[08:53] <sveinse> almoxarife: How does that help? My problem is that I'm unable to remove a bluetooth device, which I need to re-add to have a working mouse on my system. So I hoped on wiping all of the bluetooth config would help
[08:54] <japro> hmpf, there is definitely something different
[08:54] <japro> i had multiple browser windows, eclipse and multiple PDFs open before on this machine
[08:54] <almoxarife> esheep: removing bluetooth completely is a bench, I suggested insuring it did not start on user session
[08:54] <shebi> hai
[08:54] <curiousx> aloha
[08:55] <japro> now just starting firefox and eclipse puts it to 850mb usage out of my 1gb
[08:55] <curiousx> japro: what version of firefox ?
[08:55] <japro> 7.0.1
[08:56] <almoxarife> sveinse: so you need bluetooth every session
[08:56] <curiousx> OMG mozilla people say that version 7 reduce mem usage at 30% =(
[08:56] <esheep> curiousx: LOL
[08:57] <japro> well, I'm not sure that firefox per se is the problem
[08:57] <hellslinger> curiousx: do you know why FF versions have become so, "inflated?"
[08:57] <almoxarife> chromium brothers, it's the llamas rear
[08:57] <japro> hmm, it sits at 90mb atm
[08:57] <curiousx> i have Firefox 7 as well, and after 6 hours runing it consume 120 megas =P
[08:57] <Morgawr> hello.. I have a question, I'm in need to recompile the linux kernel with some testing patches for a school project, can I just grab a linux kernel verion from github (the one maintained by Linus Torvalds) and apply that to Ubuntu or will it require some special patching specifically for ubuntu?
[08:58] <curiousx> i dont know but, do you install it from Mozilla's repos ?
[08:58] <japro> now after closing firefox and ecplise again
[08:58] <japro> ist still sits at 660mb
[08:58] <japro> just running xchat and top
[08:58] <japro> hmpf
[08:59] <japro> maybe i should try classic instead of unity?
[08:59] <almoxarife> chrome, it's the gas, once its set to your confy level and sync'ed its saved for ever,
[09:00] <esheep> epiphany isnt a bad browser for lightweight usage
[09:00] <hellslinger> Morgawr, there is a process for building a working kernel for ubuntu
[09:01] <hellslinger> Morgawr, you cannot simply make a bzImage of it, and have it boot from grub and expect it to work properly
[09:01] <curiousx> i used epiphany and is good it's firefox based
[09:02] <Morgawr> hellslinger: Is there a website or guide explaining how to do so? mainly because I just need to apply a few patches and see if they run or not... nothing too fancy
[09:02] <hellslinger> Morgawr, you may want to consider using a build-from-source distro if you want to test a custom kernel, like gentoo or arch
[09:02] <esheep> curiousx: epiphany isnt firefox based
[09:02] <Morgawr> hellslinger: yeah... I think I might as well go with gentoo I guess
[09:03] <curiousx> mmm... i think so, couse are too similary =P
[09:03] <esheep> curiousx: epiphany is a webkit based browser
[09:03] <curiousx> excusemy so =(
[09:03] <esheep> :)
[09:04] <hellslinger> Morgawr, explain a little more about what you want to do? I might have better advice
[09:05] <Morgawr> hellslinger: it's a university project, our professor made some patches on the UDP protocol and gave us the patched files... we have to do the same with the TCP protocol and then compile the kernel and test them
[09:05] <dD0T> Not exactly "ubuntu" related but does anyone know where to file bugs for the ubuntu one windows client?
[09:05] <hellslinger> Morgawr, does this project require anything GUI dependent? or are you testing TCP/UDP stuff on a command line?
[09:06] <Morgawr> hellslinger: nah, theoretically only command line
[09:06] <A_J> Hey All Quick Question, I have two internal hardrives, and the non boot hard drive does not auto mount on startup, any idea how i can do this ?
[09:06] <hellslinger> Morgawr, then I would go with gentoo or arch, you can bet your install bootstrapped, build a kernel
[09:06] <hellslinger> ad then if you need X, you can just build enough to run xorg and fluxbox
[09:06] <qrq> How set EsounD as default sound server?
[09:07] <Morgawr> hellslinger: I already have a VM with gentoo and X server, so that's not a problem...
[09:07] <almoxarife> qrq: perhaps in a vbox
[09:08] <qrq> almoxarife Its not possible in ubuntu?
[09:08] <sveinse> Let me rephrase my question: How can I wipe/erase all bluetooth config? Does anyone know where the bluetooth config/pairing is stored?
[09:08] <hellslinger> Morgawr, I tried to build brainfuck scheduler into Ubuntu a couple of years back and it was a slow and painful process, never worked perfectly either
[09:08] <A_J> hellslinger: look at my question
[09:09] <almoxarife> qrq: possible? anything is possible, but pulse is basically the sound, and de3viating from it won't be easy
[09:09] <antony> I want to disable the USB ports for mass storage..is there any gui?
[09:09] <almoxarife> qrq: what needs esound?
[09:09] <Morgawr> hellslinger: okay, thanks for the help then, I will go study the process of building custom kernels on gentoo and then get back to the project :)
[09:09] <curiousx> A_J: you have to add a line in the "/etc/fstab" file to mount automaticaly
[09:09] <curiousx> one line per hard drive
[09:10] <antony> We are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for our desktops user. For the data security,
[09:10] <antony> I want to disable the USB ports for mass storage.
[09:10] <A_J> looking one sec curiousx
[09:10] <japro> starting classic also doesn't change much
[09:10] <qrq> almoxarife It got better dynamic range.. :)
[09:10] <hellslinger> Morgawr, it is as easy as downloading the source, make xconfig, make, and make install on gentoo.... good luck!
[09:10] <esheep> A_J: check mount manual page or google it
[09:10] <hellslinger> A_J: I'm sorry I can't find your original question, can you resend?
[09:10] <japro> also it seems the memory percentages that top gives me dont "add up"
[09:11] <A_J> nvm hellslinger
[09:11] <japro> there is a few processes using 1 or 2% but mostly sub 1%
[09:11] <A_J> ok got fstab open, how do i add it
[09:11] <almoxarife> qrq: I have a oldddddddddddddddd link to making ubuntu pure alsa, that help?
[09:12] <curiousx> A_J: paste the output of ---> sudo fdisk -l
[09:12] <qrq> almoxarife Well thanks but I dont want to experiment again. I can launch apps in esound its enough
[09:13] <qrq> almoxarife Bet getting rid of pulseaudio would be dangerous :D
[09:13] <A_J> curiousx: http://pastebin.com/bkRy94ga
[09:13] <qrq> Especially because I read now that esound is working with pulseaudio
[09:13] <qrq> -_-
[09:13] <almoxarife> qrq: wanna know what cheap awsome dynamic is? hdmi sound with an extra set of external speakers (cheap too) set to pick up the out from the hdmi
[09:14] <curiousx> so, you want to automount the windows partition ?
[09:14] <qrq> almoxarife I got Sennheisers
[09:14] <almoxarife> qrq: getting rid of pulse is verbotten, yes
[09:14] <almoxarife> qrq: so, mine are cheap but don't require esound :), good luck
[09:15] <A_J> curiousx: also fstab is readme only now
[09:15] <qrq> almoxarife Ubuntu would be great if not this immature unity :P
[09:16] <esheep> qrq: ah unity - the thing that split ubuntu users lol
[09:16] <qrq> But that was said hundred times
[09:16] <qrq> Or even more
[09:17] <almoxarife> qrq: that's why after flopping around I decide on 11.04 classic with cairo dock, its suppose to be like apple, don't know, I could never afford one, but its clean
[09:17] <sveinse> Where can I get more information about how bluetooth-properties and how to manually edit its config?
[09:17] <sveinse> There's apparently no usable response here...
[09:17] <curiousx> A_J: install ---> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[09:18] <qrq> In my opinion Empathy , Compiz and Unity is one of few Ubuntu problems :P
[09:18] <esheep> qrq - spot on
[09:18] <qrq> esheep What mean to "spot on"? :)
[09:18] <enchilado> I don't like Unity _at all_ :S
[09:19] <RTFMnow> sveinse: just use blueman applet
[09:19] <esheep> qrq: spot on about ubuntu's problems
[09:19] <almoxarife> qrq: compiz is great, the simple one, one corner picks walls, the other picks apps, that means endless walls and apps
[09:19] <enchilado> qrq: "spot on" means "absolutely correct", more or less.
[09:19] <A_J> curiousx: ntfs-3g is already the newest version.
[09:19] <sveinse> RTFMnow: No, it also doesn't behave correctly. It sits deeper (its a known bug)
[09:20] <esheep> A_J: ntfs-3g comes default
[09:20] <curiousx> A_J: ok, login as root
[09:20] <qrq> Lucid is great , really , there is not much bad things to said about it
[09:20] <A_J> umm how
[09:20] <qrq> Not many.
[09:21] <esheep> almoxarife: compiz is a waste of resources
[09:21] <curiousx> and ---> echo "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[09:21] <qrq> esheep Just like Beryl was :D
[09:21] <esheep> qrq: yeah
[09:21] <qrq> Beryl was extremaly hungry of resources :D
[09:21] <curiousx> sory i dont have installed lastest ubuntu =(
[09:21] <almoxarife> esheep: yeah, cause I am doing some really serious stuff here, I can't afford the time slices
[09:22] <A_J> curiousx: how do i login as r00t
[09:22] <curiousx> now create the directory ---> sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[09:22] <dai> good morning
[09:22] <curiousx> A_J: sudo su
[09:23] <esheep> most users have a 10 minute play with wobbly windows etc then compiz is done
[09:23] <RTFMnow> myn is -> #/dev/sda1                     /mnt/hd/WindowsXP ntfs-3g   umask=0022,fmask=0133,uid=777,gid=100,locale=en_US   0   0
[09:23] <curiousx> RTFMnow: won me =(
[09:23] <dai> I'm looking for some help regarding dual booting ubuntu and windows 7 with a shared ntfs partition, is it possible to do it?
[09:23] <almoxarife> btw, if you got to cli, get cli companion, its like cli gui, sort of
[09:23] <A_J> doune curiousx
[09:23] <stianhj> dai: yes, you can mount your windows partition from inside ubuntu
[09:24] <Girly-Girl> I've got a problem after installing unity on top of Kubuntu, when I start kde, gnome stuff starts in background, and it takes long to load, if kde desktop (plasma) crashes,  see gnome behind it!
[09:24] <curiousx> you are login as root ? or you done all the comands ?
[09:24] <dai> @ stianhj what about the other way around? I
[09:24] <almoxarife> dai: yes it is, two ways, simple ways
[09:24] <stianhj> Girly-Girl: uninstall unity?
[09:25] <Girly-Girl> stianhj: I wanted to have unity session also seperate from KDE
[09:25] <stianhj> dai: windows can (of course) read/write NTFS partitions, Ubuntu can also read/write
[09:25] <auronandace> curiousx: please don't advise people to login as root
[09:25] <stianhj> NTFS
[09:25] <A_J> curiousx: is that it ?
[09:25] <qrq> Not even mention about KDE issues :P
[09:25] <Kiranos> is this the place for ubuntu 11.10 beta?
[09:25] <stianhj> dai: but windows can't (easily) read ext4 partitions (so your /home and / folders)
[09:25] <auronandace> !11.10 | Kiranos
[09:25] <curiousx> auronandace: ok
[09:26] <qrq> But really im impressed by Gnome and Ubuntu developers
[09:26] <qrq> I mean by their work
[09:26] <curiousx> yes that all
[09:26] <almoxarife> dai: if windows is already installed, then consider ubuntu wubi, ran it for years, works fine, and you can access the windows files :), got extra room?dual boot and still do the same
[09:26] <stianhj> Girly-Girl: oh, not sure why they would mix together
[09:26] <A_J> !natty
[09:26] <dai> that's the problem.. I allocated the rest of my hdd space as ext4 on /home
[09:26] <dai> win7 doesn't detect any other partition than itself
[09:26] <stianhj> dai, almoxarife: you don't need wubi to access windows files
[09:26] <stianhj> from ubuntu
[09:26] <Girly-Girl> stianhj: I think the nautilus process starts and does fishy things
[09:27] <curiousx> you create de directory ---> /mnt/windows  #then ---> echo "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[09:27] <dai> ubuntu wubi is another ubuntu os ?
[09:27] <A_J> yes curiousx did that
[09:27] <Kiranos> auronandace: I was more thinking of the development channel, I'm having issues with hybernate
[09:27] <curiousx> ok, reboot
[09:27] <stianhj> dai: no, wubi is a windows installer for ubuntu..
[09:27] <Kiranos> on 11.10
[09:27] <qrq> Many people complain about Ubuntu and etc but developers are making really great job
[09:27] <almoxarife> dai: wubi is a way to ubuntu within windows
[09:27] <curiousx> and see if automount the NTFS file system
[09:27] <A_J> okie brb curiousx
[09:28] <stianhj> dai: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[09:28] <curiousx> what's mean brb ?
[09:28] <thyri0n> qrq: agreed
[09:28] <dai> sorry i'm new, only tried linux a few hours ago which is why Im dual booting
[09:28] <auronandace> Kiranos: 11.10 is under development, it is discussed in #ubuntu+1 as that factoid pointed out
[09:28] <dai> ah!
[09:28] <thyri0n> though i've completely gone OSX now
[09:28] <taraduffy> Hi, am trying to install a printer driver download, but get "package management system cannot be identified". Can anyone walk me through it please?
[09:28] <qrq> Of course Debian have big merits in that
[09:29] <dai> would it be possible to use NTFS instead of ext4 for /home when installing Ubuntu and would windows recognize that partition ?
[09:29] <taraduffy> Am using: "chmod +x ./install.sh; sudo ./install.sh"
[09:29] <thyri0n> curiousx: brb = be right back
[09:29] <qrq> Thats out of the question
[09:29] <curiousx> thanks thyri0n =)
[09:29] <almoxarife> dai: you can dual boot, great, so, how much room you got after win is done?
[09:30] <overdub> curiousx, alternative to rebooting is: sudo mount -a
[09:30] <Kiranos> auronandace: thanks!
[09:30] <almoxarife> dai: no, /home is on a ext4, but I got around it by keeping stuff on the ntfs via links
[09:30] <dai> my partitions are 50gb win7 / 15gb ubuntu / 100mb master boot record / 500mb linux boot / 5gb swap / 230gb /home
[09:31] <curiousx> overdub: i don't remeber that =P
[09:31] <fjorgynn> :D
[09:31] <A_J> curiousx: the drive disaprred
[09:31] <almoxarife> dai: 230gb home?
[09:31] <A_J> now what
[09:31] <dai> i dumped the rest of my hdd space into /home
[09:31] <RTFMnow> what does 100mb master boot record mean ?
[09:31] <RTFMnow> my MBR is 512 bytes .
[09:32] <Gentoo64> RTFMnow, windows 7 boot partition?
[09:32] <dai> it's space windows takes out for system files
[09:32] <RTFMnow> 100mb for partition data ?
[09:32] <Gentoo64> RTFMnow, do you use windows 7?
[09:32] <almoxarife> dai: I don't thonk you have issues then, 15gb ubuntu means youwont  be kubunting and edibunting , but that's a lot of space
[09:32] <Gentoo64> it creates a boot partition
[09:32] <Gentoo64> thats 100mb
[09:32] <dai> would ubuntu wubi run linux as an application within windows or is it set up as a dual boot system?
[09:33] <RTFMnow> oh
[09:33] <curiousx> ups! A_J ---> sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <RTFMnow> Gentoo64: never
[09:33] <llutz> dai: its win bootpartition, not master boot record, which is something completly different
[09:33]  * RTFMnow uses Slackware linux
[09:33] <dai> sorry then :p
[09:33] <esheep> got win7, arch and freebsd on this laptop - have booted win7 once lol
[09:33] <curiousx> and paste here the link made
[09:33] <Gentoo64> RTFMnow, i dont know hten
[09:33] <almoxarife> dai: if you wubi you won't be able to win7 at the same time
[09:34] <almoxarife> RTFMnow: so f??????? what?
[09:35] <A_J> curiousx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/701556/
[09:35] <almoxarife> RTFMnow: its like this, show me something I can't do in ubuntu you can do in slahhhhhhhhhhk
[09:35] <Gentoo64> ^ thats jealousy right there
[09:35] <Gentoo64> bet you wouldnt say that if he said mint
[09:35] <Gentoo64> :)
[09:35] <dai> hmm I'm looking for a way to have [Windows 7 OS] [Ubuntu OS] [Shared Hdd Space Accessible to Both read/write] is there a program or setup that could make that work?
[09:36] <RTFMnow> lol
[09:36] <Gentoo64> dai, use a seperate ntfs partition
[09:36] <Gentoo64> just a data one
[09:36] <almoxarife> hell, its all linux
[09:36] <Gentoo64> its offtopic
[09:36] <Gentoo64> theyre not all the same
[09:37] <Gentoo64> dai, just make an ntfs partition and you can access it from both win and linux
[09:37] <almoxarife> the kernel, linux made it
[09:37] <Gentoo64> linus
[09:37] <Gentoo64> lol
[09:37] <A_J> btw curiousx i use this ntfs partion only for ubuntu,i don't use windows
[09:37] <curiousx> mmm... i dont know, paste ---> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:37] <almoxarife> linus the person
[09:37] <Gentoo64> we all know
[09:38] <RTFMnow> the guy from Finland           land
[09:38] <dai> I'll try that, thanks guys!
[09:38] <almoxarife> I guess you use geennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnntoooo64
[09:38] <A_J> also curiousx can you remove that free agent drive please
[09:38] <llutz> take your my-distro/your-distro  to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:38] <dai> if it doesn't work, ill come haunt you guys down in this chat channel ho ho ho ho~
[09:38] <Gentoo64> almostroot, be quiet man
[09:39] <overdub> A_J, see if you can mount from command line: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows
[09:39] <almoxarife> dai: good luck
[09:39] <dai> <3
[09:39] <A_J> curiousx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/701561/
[09:39] <esheep> almoxarife: someone has to use it
[09:39] <A_J> @ overdub : Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[09:39] <A_J> The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[09:39] <A_J> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[09:39] <curiousx> A_J: add "defaults" without quotes after "0 0"
[09:40] <A_J> it's read only curiousx
[09:40] <A_J> i cannot add :(O
[09:41] <RTFMnow> why is there around six ubuntu discs ?
[09:41] <almoxarife> esheep: I suppose, I tried installing 'arch', man did I get bored choosing how it should work, I finally had enough, please let me out]\
[09:41] <Gentoo64> RTFMnow, there isnt :s
[09:41] <curiousx> just r--r--r ?
[09:41] <A_J> RTFMnow: there is only one
[09:41] <esheep> A_J: its mounted with root permissions
[09:41] <Gentoo64> almoxarife, take it to offtopic. it sup to you what you use
[09:41] <A_J> curiousx: where do i put in r--r--r
[09:41] <empity> I'm trying to update the index of an old ubuntu (9.04)
[09:41] <curiousx> so, how yo add the line i wrote you ?
[09:42] <empity> are the update links not valid anymore or?
[09:42] <A_J> esheep: well yea i did a sudo
[09:42] <mandelay> I cannot switch my wm to sawfish on 11.04... I've set all keys in gconf and I've set the alternatives correctly, but Gnome (classic) still starts metacity instead of sawfish
[09:42] <mandelay> What am I doing wrong?
[09:42] <auronandace> !eol | empity
[09:42] <almoxarife> Gentoo64: yes, it  is gentttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:42] <almoxarife> sorry
[09:42] <Gentoo64> ok
[09:42] <Gentoo64> its ok to be jealous
[09:42] <curiousx> so do it again, but do it whit ---> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:42] <curiousx> with =P
[09:43] <iceroot> !gksudo | curiousx
[09:43] <qixiz> !rus
[09:43] <carniz> anyone here with a good knowledge of selinux..?
[09:43] <curiousx> ok, gksu =P
[09:43] <A_J> ok curiousx you want me to add defaults ?
[09:43] <A_J> done
[09:43] <A_J> reboot curiousx ?
[09:43] <curiousx> yes, before "0 0"
[09:43] <qixiz> привет
[09:44] <curiousx> no, then ---> sudo mount -a
[09:44] <A_J> before or after ?
[09:44] <A_J> A_J: add "defaults" without quotes after "0 0"
[09:44] <empity> ubottu: ok thanks, makes sense, than I should propose an update to the LTS 10.04
[09:44] <curiousx> mmm... like that ---> defaults 0 0
[09:44] <empity> or something like that
[09:44] <A_J> okie
[09:44] <curiousx> i am not american as you can see =P
[09:45] <RTFMnow> oh, ok thanks
[09:45] <A_J> curiousx: : http://paste.ubuntu.com/701563/
[09:45] <mandelay> I cannot switch my wm to sawfish on 11.04... I've set all keys in gconf and I've set the alternatives correctly, but Gnome (classic) still starts metacity instead of sawfish
[09:47] <curiousx> seems like an error in the syntax in fstab but...
[09:47] <curiousx> paste again "fstab"
[09:48] <A_J> curiousx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/701565/
[09:50] <auronandace> A_J: what is your uid? (check with id)
[09:50] <curiousx> i dont know =( the fstab is okey
[09:50] <A_J> sorry what is uid
[09:50] <A_J> curiousx: can you roll back the changes
[09:50] <A_J> !uid
[09:51] <auronandace> A_J: type id in a terminal
[09:51] <auronandace> A_J: your uid is likely 1000
[09:51] <A_J> yes 1000
[09:51] <auronandace> A_J: replace defaults with: rw,uid=1000
[09:52] <auronandace> A_J: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[09:53] <A_J> ok done auronandace
[09:53] <siksi> any suggestions why dbus is behaving strangely in a fresh installation of ubuntu? "Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: Did not receive a reply."
[09:53] <auronandace> A_J: reboot, then it should be writable
[09:53] <siksi> also starting nautilus is extremely slow
[09:53] <A_J> auronandace: ok brb i guess
[09:53] <auronandace> A_J: this is assuming /mnt/windows exists
[09:53] <siksi> i tried googling but got just old bug reports with various statuses from invalid to confirmed
[09:53] <iceroot> A_J: no need for a reboot
[09:54] <iceroot> A_J: sudo mount -a  instead of a reboot
[09:54] <curiousx> A_J: ---> ls /mnt/
[09:54] <auronandace> A_J: yeah, sorry, you could just remount instead
[09:54] <auronandace> iceroot: thanks
[09:54] <inz> siksi, sounds like someone on the D-Bus is not responding to messages
[09:55] <esheep> case of de bus is going around in circles
[09:55] <A_J_> auronandace: nop did'nt work
[09:56] <A_J_> yet can't even manually mount the drive
[09:56] <siksi> inz: well yeah, but is there any sensible reason why that would happen in a fresh installation of ubuntu? (fresh here meaning installed last friday and since it's really been just apt-get install apache & co)
[09:57] <auronandace> A_J: hmm, odd
[09:57] <A_J> auronandace: now what
[09:58] <A_J> perhaps roll back the changes auronandace
[09:58] <A_J> so i can use my drive
[09:58] <curiousx> the windows folder exists in /mnt ?
[09:58] <A_J> yes curiousx
[09:59] <curiousx> just you have to remove the line we wrote in fstab
[09:59] <A_J> hmm the drive is also there
[09:59] <auronandace> A_J: how are you editing fstab?
[09:59] <A_J> sudo gpedit path auronandace
[09:59] <jase_> #malang
[10:00] <auronandace> A_J: gpedit? do you mean gedit? and i hope you are using gksudo instead of just sudo
[10:01] <siksi> restarting with an older kernel seems to work
[10:01] <esheep> A_J: just a tip, when messing about with critcal files like fstab, make a backup of it first
[10:01] <siksi> i'll have to put some time into trying to figure out why that happens later on
[10:01] <siksi> have to try get some work done now
[10:01] <KM0201> auronandace: while gksudo is more appropriate, it's not gonna make a difference whether the entry works properly or not.
[10:01] <A_J> esheep: okie made one just now
[10:01] <taraduffy> can anyone help me with an install via a terminal?
[10:01]  * A_J is going for a reboot brb
[10:02] <auronandace> KM0201: i'm aware of that, just want to encourage better usage
[10:02] <KM0201> auronandace: of course, but.. if sudo didn't fix the problem, gksudo won't.. and his whole issue seems to be that his fstab entry is working, my point is... don't confuse the issue...
[10:03] <KM0201> A_J: can you pastebin your fstab?
[10:04] <yacc> So what do I do if I find a bug in apport (10.04LTS)?
[10:04] <Syria> Hello, How can I install gnome 3.2 on my Natty 11.04?
[10:04] <KM0201> !gnome3 | Syria i would not recommend messing w/ gnome 3 at this point..
[10:05] <Girly-Girl> yacc: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Apport
[10:05] <A_J> it worked at the end auronandace but i needed it mounted as it was mnaully mounted not in the windows folder, as i have torrent paths assosiated with the address
[10:05] <auronandace> A_J: well done
[10:06] <Syria> KM0201:  Thnx, I will install it now since it is unstable.
[10:06] <A_J> lol i deleted it and am back where i started
[10:06] <A_J> perhaps a bash script to run whenever i startup auronandace
[10:06] <KM0201> Syria: just be prepared to reinstall your OS.. you've been warned
[10:06] <KM0201> A_J: pastebin your fstab please
[10:07] <KM0201> A_J: and also the output of sudo fdisk -l
[10:07] <yacc> Girly-Girl, so how does that help me if apport ends with a traceback (Actually I know even the fix, *grrr*, it's a newbie python error)
[10:07] <siksi> actually, restarting in the old kernel did not fix i think. now it opens, but if i mousever the nautilus window it dims out
[10:08] <A_J> KM0201: http://pastebin.com/b6DdC7Jr
[10:08] <yacc> Well, the web interface hides it a little bit, but google found the web form ;)
[10:08] <A_J> KM0201: : http://pastebin.com/Lt6FM8xT
[10:09] <yacc> Nope, it redirects to a Wiki page telling me to use apport, these guys should be shot.
[10:09] <Syria> KM0201:  Sorry I wanted to say I will NOT install it since it is unstable!!
[10:09] <Syria> KM0201:  Thank you for warning me. :-)
[10:09] <yacc> ?no-redirect <= this is so unfunny.
[10:10] <KM0201> A_J: 2 more  ... output of    mount    and then sudo blkid
[10:11] <A_J> KM0201: mount http://pastebin.com/HhmC4EsA
[10:11] <A_J> KM0201: http://pastebin.com/H6Th1v8C
[10:12] <KM0201> A_J: hang on a sec..
[10:12] <taraduffy> hi, can anyone help me with "package management system cannot be identified" in an install via a terminal?
[10:13] <KM0201> A_J: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:13] <jonathon_> I'm having trouble with Synaptic
[10:13] <jonathon_> Could not download all repository indexes
[10:13] <jonathon_> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[10:13] <FloodBot1> jonathon_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:14] <jonathon_> Network is fine, Obviously. And I believe the Repo addresses are correct
[10:14] <auronandace> jonathon: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:14] <A_J> okie KM0201
[10:15] <KM0201> A_J: add this...  http://pastebin.com/nR4uBCR5
[10:15] <jonathon_> Lubuntu 11.04
[10:15] <auronandace> jonathon_: do you have any ppa's installed?
[10:16] <jonathon_> Not sure. How would I find out?
[10:16] <A_J> done KM0201
[10:16] <KM0201> A_J: save, and restart... now listen.. if it doesn't mount (it should)... it'll tell you there's an error, and to hit a key to skip mounting... then come back here, and i'll try to figure out the problem.
[10:16] <jonathon_> O.o
[10:17] <jonathon_> Nevermind, It decided to work now
[10:17] <jonathon_> Thanks anyways
[10:17] <bastidrazor> A_J: you do know its already mounted on /media/Date Drive ..
[10:17] <A_J> okie KM0201 . bastidrazor it is now
[10:17] <A_J> brb
[10:17]  * A_J will brb after reboot
[10:17] <bastidrazor> A_J: you don't have to reboot to mount the drive.
[10:18] <Girly-Girl> Are there any controler and CPU downclock/ overclock tools on Ubuntu
[10:18] <bastidrazor> A_J: umount /media/Data\ Drive  , then sudo mount -a  ..that will give errors too if somethign is wrong
[10:18] <KM0201> bastidrazor: pay attention, he's tryign to get itt o mount during boot.. thus the reason for the fstab editing
[10:18] <bastidrazor> KM0201: i am paying attention. sudo mount -a will do the same thing.
[10:19] <bastidrazor> KM0201: if sudo mount -a fails then restarting isn't going to help since it won't mount anyway
[10:19] <jonathon_> Anyone know how I can edit the GRUB list?
[10:19] <KM0201> i see what you're saying
[10:19] <KM0201> i've never used sudo mount -a   good tip.
[10:21] <A_J_> KM0201: it's yet not booted now what
[10:21] <auronandace> !grub2 | jonathon_
[10:22] <KM0201> A_J: just let it boot... but bastidrazor is right, sudo mount -a would have worked fine.
[10:22] <jonathon_> That didn't help
[10:22] <auronandace> jonathon_: it didn't help because you didn't read it, it is documentation for grub2
[10:23] <KM0201> A_J_: hit "escape".. and see if there's a message to skip mounting
[10:23] <A_J_> nop
[10:23] <KM0201> A_J_: ok, just let it continue booting, see if it boots up...
[10:24] <A_J_> okie KM0201 how much time should i wait
[10:24] <KM0201> it really shouldn't take that long
[10:24] <KM0201> and you're not seeing a messag eto "hit S to skip" or somethng like that?
[10:24] <A_J_> no KM0201 looks like it's hung
[10:24] <ghufran> hi. i am having problems in internet connectivity.. i am behind a proxy but i've set my proxy settings and i can access internet in firefox. I also set the same proxy settings as "global" but i still cant make it work in the terminal
[10:25] <ghufran> any ideas?
[10:25] <KM0201> A_J_: ok, restart.. and choose recovery mode
[10:25] <A_J_> how do i get the selection screen KM0201
[10:25] <A_J_> for mode
[10:26] <KM0201> um, hang on ... right ctrl i think (just keep hitting during boot).. lemme check
[10:26] <bastidrazor> A_J_: hold shift after POST
[10:27] <A_J_> nvm KM0201 it booted after a reboot
[10:27] <KM0201> A_J_: oh ok.. wellt hats weird
[10:27] <KM0201> did it auto mount?
[10:27] <A_J_> thanks blast_hardcheese
[10:28] <A_J_> yes KM0201 done
[10:28] <A_J_> thank you
[10:28] <KM0201> ok
[10:28] <KM0201> i'll have to remember that sudo mount -a    didn't know that
[10:28] <A_J_> should do an another reboot to check ? KM0201
[10:28] <Ben64> !best > Ben64
[10:28] <empity> is there anything bad that can happen upgrading from an Ubuntu 9.04
[10:28] <empity>          to a ubuntu 10.04 Server LTS?
[10:28] <A_J_> what does sudo mount -a do ?
[10:28] <empity> any way I can do a rollback in case something goes wrong?
[10:29] <bastidrazor> empity: no. once you upgrade, its final
[10:29] <KM0201> A_J_: naa, unmount it with sudo umount /media/Data
[10:29] <Tm_T> empity: you cannot do such upgrade directly (without problems atleast) and no, you cannot roll back
[10:29] <KM0201> then sudo mount -a
[10:29] <doguito> Hey guys/a, which software should I install for java programming?
[10:29] <jesus_> install
[10:29] <Tm_T> empity: you can upgrade one version at a time ofcourse, which I believe is the supported way
[10:30] <jesus_> netbeans
[10:30] <curiousx> doguito: Netbeans
[10:30] <auronandace> empity: the only way to rollback would be to restore a backup
[10:30] <jesus_> Netbeans is for ava/C/C++ .....
[10:30] <jesus_> java*
[10:30] <A_J_> doguito: Eclipse
[10:30] <A_J_> working well KM0201 thank you
[10:31] <KM0201> no problem, not sure why it hung on the first boot thoug, weird
[10:31] <doguito> curiousx, A_J_: so..., netbeans,eclipse....
[10:31] <schreber> Is there an easy way to set up simple language switching say if I have a system set up using English as the default but at time wish to input/type in say German or some other langauge?
[10:31] <curiousx> yes
[10:31] <jesus_> yes
[10:32] <dai> heya im back!
[10:32] <A_J_> KM0201: one more question if you don't mind
[10:32] <KM0201> A_J_: sure
[10:32] <dai> I hit a snag... I can't create an additional partition because I have exceeded the amount of primary partitions, is there a way to increase the limit of primary partitions ?
[10:33] <A_J_> well it's my vlc player, i keep my ubuntu pc on for weeks at a time, after a few days the video stop's showing only the audio. any clue why
[10:33] <KM0201> A_J_: i have no clue on that one..
[10:33] <A_J_> KM0201: lol no1 does
[10:33] <A_J_> what do you use for video KM0201
[10:34] <KM0201> A_J: gnome mplayer *usually*... but sometimes vlc..
[10:34] <auronandace> dai: no, you're meant to use logical partitions (within an extended partition)
[10:34] <A_J_> thing is i have a slow processer, so for hd i need to rely on vdpau, so i use smplayer, but it laggs at jitters once in a while
[10:35] <KM0201> hmm
[10:35] <A_J> apparently u need dual core for hd
[10:36] <A_J> sm players jitters often spoil a movie
[10:36] <dai> @auronandace I tried gentoo's advice to install Win 7 and Ubuntu on separate partitions and to create another ntfs partition that both OS can access but using gparted I can't create a partition with the rest of my allocated space because i would exceed 4 primary partitions :/
[10:36] <bastidrazor> A_J: i use "mplayer -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts fast:skiploopfilter=all" for HD movies on this weak laptop
[10:37] <A_J> bastidrazor: my mplayer has never ever worked
[10:37] <bastidrazor> A_J: smplayer IS mplayer
[10:38] <A_J> bastidrazor: so in sm player i would do what
[10:38] <dungkcna> dungkcna
[10:39] <auronandace> dai: then you need to delete some partitions to make room
[10:39] <empity> auronandace: ok well then I think we should do something like: complete backup of the machine, upgrade one version at a time
[10:39] <Ascavasaion> I bought a Blackberry today and was wondering here if anyone could help me to get contacts and SMSes/MMSes off my old Nokia E63 and onto this Blackberry 9300 3G Curve.  Is there software in Ubuntu to do this?
[10:40] <auronandace> dai: linux and an ntfs storage partition can be put in an extended partition, windows needs a primary
[10:40] <bastidrazor> A_J: smplayer is a front-end for mplayer. i'm not sure that syntax will work.
[10:40] <empity> and if something goes wrong we can still rollbcak
[10:40] <sharpshooter> hai all !! I got a problem with aircrack-ng in ubuntu , when I use aireplay-ng command it shows like this 'mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel' please help me to fix this !
[10:40] <dai> @auronandace can I turn my linux partitions into logical instead ?
[10:40] <auronandace> dai: you'd need to reinstall
[10:41] <dai> how do i reply to you automatically? i like the beep lol
[10:41] <auronandace> dai: but yeah, the linux partitions should be logical
[10:42] <dai> is it possible to make the linux ext4 /boot partition logical?
[10:42] <auronandace> empity: i usually just backup my data and fresh install the os (i never bother backing up my os)
[10:43] <A_J> bastidrazor: lol it worked
[10:44] <A_J> but it has no options
[10:45] <auronandace> dai: sure
[10:46] <Error404NotFound> If i am using a script to scp a file from a server, ssh asks me to add its host key with a '(yes/no)' prompt. How would i skip that? tried yes | scp user@host:~/filename . , and even with echo yes | scp user@host:~/filename . but no use.
[10:46] <dai> would ubuntu still run with a "/boot"logical type partition instead of a primary one?
[10:47] <empity> auronandace: well the problem is that I didn't install this machine, but it's a server installed long time ago by someone who is not here anymore
[10:47] <empity> hard to tell if there is some hidden stuff which might be deleted in case of problems
[10:47] <empity> and it shouldn't be
[10:48] <auronandace> dai: yes
[10:48] <Error404NotFound> dai: depends on your BIOS, usually i would keep /boot off logical as well as lvm.
[10:48] <sharpshooter> hai all !! I got a problem with aircrack-ng in ubuntu , when I use aireplay-ng command it shows like this 'mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel' please help me to fix this !
[10:49] <dai> I'll try reformating again :3
[10:49] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I have switched to Gnome in Ubuntu Natty, how do I get the app global menu in gnome ?
[10:50] <Ascavasaion> I bought a Blackberry today and was wondering here if anyone could help me to get contacts and SMSes/MMSes off my old Nokia E63 and onto this Blackberry 9300 3G Curve.  Is there software in Ubuntu to do this?
[10:51] <auronandace> empity: i don't know what to suggest in that case
[10:52] <thecaptain2000> hi, how do I get a file using command line ftp from an url? (I need to do remote downloading) I saw there is a -u option but it is just for uploading
[10:53] <jrib> thecaptain2000: why not use wget?
[10:53] <KM0201> or just use filezilla/
[10:53] <thecaptain2000> jrib: ...b ecause I did not know it existed :)
[10:54] <ksinkar> hello people, I am trying to set up the locale on ubuntu from POSIX to US by the command:-
[10:54] <ksinkar> sudo /usr/sbin/locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
[10:54]  * KM0201 didn't know wget could do ftp
[10:55] <ksinkar> sudo /usr/sbin/update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[10:55] <ksinkar> after this i am logging out and logging in
[10:55] <ksinkar> but the changes are not being effected
[10:57] <seneca> how to uninstall instant client on ubuntu
[10:57] <jrib> ksinkar: what is in /etc/default/locale?
[10:57] <jrib> ksinkar: and what version of ubuntu?
[10:58] <ksinkar> jrib: ubuntu 10.04
[10:58] <jrib> ksinkar: you probably have LANG set in /etc/environment then
[10:58] <uwesch> Hi
[10:59] <uwesch> Is someone here who speaks german?
[11:00] <somsip> !de | uwesch
[11:00] <ksinkar> jrib: i just checked the /etc/default/locale and it has the contents LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[11:00] <uwesch> thx
[11:01] <nekto0n> hi! does anyone knows if ubuntu will have gdm-3.2 in oneiric?
[11:02] <Arnold> nekto0n: gdm (3.0.4-0ubuntu11) oneiric is the newest version of it so far.
[11:03] <jrib> ksinkar: and /etc/environment?
[11:03] <jrib> ksinkar: it should have LANGUAGE set there iirc
[11:03] <nekto0n> Arnold: that's right, but other gnome3 parts are 3.2, gdm is one of the outdated now :(
[11:04] <gigasoft_> is there ubuntu for intel 64 bit available, and
[11:05] <Arnold> nekto0n: indeed, and I can't seem to see if providing a 3.2.0 version of it is planned before release or not.
[11:05] <ksinkar> jrib: no it only has  the path
[11:05] <Arnold> nekto0n: also, Oneiric questions go to #ubuntu+1 until it's released :P
[11:05] <nekto0n> Arnold: oh, that's right, i'd go there
[11:06] <nekto0n> *come back in two weeks :)
[11:06] <Arnold> Haha
[11:06] <somsip> gigasoft_: yes. and....?
[11:07] <gigasoft_> somsip, can you give me link to it
[11:07] <seneca> how to uninstall instant client on ubuntu
[11:07] <somsip> gigasoft_: er....http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[11:08] <gigasoft_> somsip, thanks
[11:08] <th0r> seneca: how did you install it?
[11:08] <jrib> ksinkar: when you log in, what is the value of LANG?
[11:08] <oratred> Is there any package for ubuntu/linux which can allow easy to use functionality like ammyy-admin http://www.ammyy.com/en/index.html ?
[11:09] <adammw111> Nautilus on my Ubuntu installation keeps crashing. gdb says it's in gconf_client_get() from libgconf-2.so.4 Any help?
[11:10] <ksinkar> jrib: the PATH variable is defined in /etc/environment
[11:10] <ksinkar> jrib: the value of LANG is blank
[11:10] <ksinkar> on typing locale I get LANG=
[11:10] <ksinkar> thats it
[11:11] <jrib> ksinkar: how do you log in?
[11:11] <ksinkar> jrib: it is a remote server
[11:11] <ksinkar> jrib: i login using ssh
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> oratred: maybe this link helps http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090529205342507/RemoteDisplay.html
[11:13] <jrib> ksinkar: ah, this is why :)
[11:13] <ksinkar> jrib: so do you know the solution?
[11:13] <jrib> ksinkar: do this: grep -i AcceptEnv /etc/ssh/sshd_config    do you see what is likely the issue?
[11:14] <jrib> ksinkar: what is LANG on the client machine?
[11:15] <yacc> ah, isn't that jolly, running apport with a hung filesystem hangs apport, ...
[11:17] <oratred> MonkeyDust: But they are all basically VNC? Could you link me to ubuntu documentation for basic information for the same?
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> oratred: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=remote&sa=Search
[11:18] <ksinkar> jrib: en_US.UTF-8 is the LANG on the client machine
[11:19] <ksinkar> jrib: btw the grep thing did not work
[11:19] <phlak_user> !hi
[11:19] <oratred> umm ok
[11:19] <m1r> hello, Ubuntu 10.04 pulse audio problem is freezing PC (fresh install). This includes flash, vlc , UrT...  Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1).  any tips how to debug/fix this problem ?
[11:20] <phlak_user> m1r: the last stable release is 11.04
[11:21] <m1r> phlak_user: i thought 12.04 is stable ?
[11:21] <m1r> phlak_user: sory, LTS
[11:22] <m1r> i have also tried 11.04 but got even worse freezing
[11:23] <jstoone> Hey everyone I just installed Ubuntu on my new labtop and it has the Nvidia GForce GT540M and I just installed the propriatary drivers, and when I then rebooted it said that I don't meet the hardware requirements for Unity. Any quick fix/force to get unity back?
[11:23] <jstoone> It forces me to run classic, which I do not want.
[11:23] <VxQf> Is anyone familiar with desktop enhancements link conky that aren't conky?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| VxQf
[11:24] <napster> What is the best way to install python-django version 1.3 on my ubuntu 11.04?
[11:24] <VxQf>  ...That is my real question?
[11:25] <phlak_user> napster: the 3rd result in a google search returns this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Django
[11:25] <napster> no
[11:25] <napster> I was thinking about something via apt
[11:26] <thecaptain2000> hi, how do I change the default permission setting I write my files with? (would like to change it in 700)
[11:26] <farhad2161> i installed a vpn server with "sudo apt-get install pptpd" but i do not want to use default vpn port,how can i change it?
[11:26] <phlak_user> napster: sudo apt-get install python-django
[11:26] <phlak_user> !info python-django
[11:26] <VxQf> napster, it should be in APT?
[11:26] <napster> I need 1.3
[11:26] <napster> is there any ppa?
[11:27] <farhad2161> i installed a vpn server with "sudo apt-get install pptpd" but i do not want to use default vpn port,how can i change it?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> napster: it seems 1.2.5 is the katest version
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> *latest
[11:28] <napster> hmm
[11:29] <phlak_user> farhad2161: are you able to change it at the client end?
[11:30] <enchilado> VxQf: so if someone had answered "yes, I am familiar with those sorts of programmes", you would not have gone on to ask another question?
[11:30] <farhad2161> phlak_user: i am using win7 as a client and i think i can
[11:34] <usr13> VxQf: Yes
[11:35] <th0r> VxQf: yes, I have tried several alternatives
[11:36] <VxQf> Sorry, I thought the question implied I wanted to know what they were.
[11:36] <th0r> VxQf: see...you did have a real question. Try gkrellm
[11:37] <VxQf> I have a real problem with people being jerks. ~_~
[11:37] <th0r> VxQf: that'll get you lots of resposnes
[11:37] <VxQf> ugh.
[11:38] <VxQf> At least no one mentioned mgm
[11:39] <The_BROS> What is the best Image viewer can be used as default? Is it Eye of Gnome good?
[11:39] <AdvoWork> hi there, the top command has shown: load average: 2.42, 2.16, 1.32 im assuming that the 5 and 15 minute times arent too good?
[11:39] <Pici> !best | The_BROS
[11:41] <The_BROS> ubottu: how to use best bot?
[11:42] <glebihan> The_BROS, type "/join #ubuntu-bots"
[11:42] <KM0201> The_BROS: "/join #ubuntu best-bots" w/o quotes
[11:42] <KM0201> oops, ubuntu-bots
[11:42] <th0r> AdvoWork: are those cpu load averages? There will always be 2% or more in idle load. If you monitor it regularly you will develop a feel for what is normal for your system. I personally would be tickled if this netbook had those numbers
[11:43] <farhad2161> i installed a vpn server with "sudo apt-get install pptpd" but i do not want to use default vpn port,how can i change it?
[11:43] <KM0201> farhad2161: my first thought, would be to look in /etc  and see fi there is a pptpd.conf
[11:44] <dr_willis> farhad2161:  Just a guess. but i bet theres a pptpd config file in /etc/ somewhere and the man pages for pptpd mention it i would imagine
[11:45] <Calinou> the late bros, the default. >_<
[11:45] <farhad2161> dr_willis: yes there is,but nothing about port :(
[11:46] <phlak_user> farhad2161: i dont think you can change the default port
[11:47] <bambanx> what cool software for record and mixing effect music we have guys?
[11:47] <phlak_user> farhad2161: the other way to do this is to put the vpn server behind a router and forward pptp connections from some other port on wan side to 1723 on lan side to the pptp server
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> bambanx: try mixxx, but better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:48] <bambanx> thanks Monkey
[11:49] <phlak_user> bambanx: ultradj mixer?
[11:52] <impi> hello, is there a way i can grep for : <!--[CDATA[
[11:53] <impi> I tried escaping those but i cant seem to get it right
[11:54] <carpediembaby> hi. can someone please help me figure out a problem with installation of packages? i am behind a proxy and nothing related to internet in terminal works.. but internet is working fine otherwise
[11:54] <galerien> Hello everyone, I'm using ubuntu 11.10 right now, the beta i know, and i would like to get rid of the botom bar with all my open programs and such, as I want to use cairo-dock. Before, I just had to right click on it and choose to hide it, but here it doesn't work, anyone can help me ? thanks in advance
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> galerien: wrong channel, type /j #ubuntu+1
[11:55] <galerien> MonkeyDust, ok, thanks
[11:55] <jrib> ksinkar: you should have the client send lang and server accept
[11:55] <morbidwar> hello, can somebody explain how the vinagre knows what pc's are up and ready to make a vnc connection, does the vino server broadcast it's availability to the network
[11:56] <galerien> carpediembaby, You might want to look at "frozenway", it's slow if you don't pay but reliable
[11:56] <jrib> ksinkar: i'm not sure why you say the grep thing did not work; I checked on a 10.04 machine and "AcceptEnv LANG LC_*" is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:57] <carpediembaby> galerien: is it some sort of tunnel? i am not sure if i should need one .. because i am talking to you from the same machine
[11:57] <carpediembaby> its just that i can't use anything from the terminal ..
[11:58] <galerien> carpediembaby, yes, but I had the same problem at work because all aptitude/apt ports were closed on the company wifi, frozeway helped me
[11:59] <jrib> !11.10 | galerien
[11:59] <rob_uk> anyone in uk got BT internet issues
[12:00] <phlak_user> impi: this should work \<\!\-\-\\[CDATA\\[
[12:02] <rob_uk> any uk users out here
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> rob_uk: please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:06] <Pumpkin-_> I'm in the UK, but BT isn't my ISP.
[12:08] <impi> phlak_user, thank you for the answer dude, i tried it but it doesnt work, at least i get no finds
[12:08] <phlak_user> impi: maybe thats not the regex you need to use
[12:09] <jrib> impi: grep '<!--\[CDATA\['
[12:09] <phlak_user> impi: i searched for <!--[CDATA[ inside a file with the same word and it returned successfully
[12:10] <phlak_user> impi: what does the data you're searching for look like?
[12:10] <cromag> ls
[12:10] <cromag> bah
[12:10] <jrib> cromag: . ..
[12:10] <cromag> yeah, sorry.
[12:10] <cromag> wrong terminal :/
[12:10] <ajin> Good evening!
[12:10] <jrib> cromag: we know, the ". .." were a bad joke :)
[12:10] <qrq> Good Afternoon :D
[12:11] <cromag> yeah - still funny tho :)
[12:11] <ajin> qrq: aha...so, where're you from?
[12:12] <qrq> Poland
[12:12] <ajin> no wonder
[12:12] <ajin> qrq: no wonder
[12:12] <impi> phlak_user, http://pastebin.com/fsDazzE6 <---- a previous dev escaped that wrong and now i have // in my html during some select options :)
[12:12] <ajin> poland is in the western time zone
[12:12] <A_J> 
[12:13] <ajin> qrq: poland is in the western time zone
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:13] <impi> jrib, thanks man, im just using your suggestion to see if i can find this sucker, thank you for answering
[12:13] <The_BROS> How to uninstall EOG, but not to delete desktop? Want to change EOG to gThumb.
[12:13] <jrib> impi: you should use sed to just replace all of them
[12:13] <ajin> BluesKaj: hi
[12:13] <qrq> Poland had their own Linux :P
[12:14] <qrq> KateOS
[12:14] <BluesKaj> hi ajin
[12:15] <ajin> qrq: oh, that's good! But i dont over-gragmentation would do any good to LINUX itself;-)
[12:15] <Adam_> Im after updating gnome on my laptop and now i cant access anything, it startsup to a prompt :(
[12:15] <ajin> qrq: sorry, fragmentatation
[12:17] <phlak_user> impi: my solution still works; but if all you want to do is replace the // with \\ use sed or %s inside a vim session
[12:17] <ajin> qrq: several ditros would be enough,
[12:18] <phlak_user> The_BROS: the trick is to change file associations; not uninstall eog
[12:23] <KM0201> what's EOG?
[12:23] <ikonia> KM0201: in what respect ?
[12:23] <The_BROS> phlak_user: how to use the trick?
[12:24] <KM0201> i figured it was an abbreviation for an app.. was drawing a blank
[12:24] <phlak_user> KM0201: Eye Of Gnome
[12:24] <phlak_user> !info eog
[12:24] <KM0201> oh.
[12:24] <KM0201> well, can't you just uninstall it?
[12:24] <KM0201> if you don't want it anyway
[12:25] <katjah> join #VTT_ADDRESS
[12:25] <katjah> #
[12:26] <empity> ok my distribution is EOL
[12:26] <empity> I should be, however, still able to install packages right?
[12:26] <clarinet> Does anyone know how to boot Ubuntu 10.10 without display manager?
[12:26] <clarinet> Just like runlevel 3 in Red Hat.
[12:26] <KM0201> empity: no, because when a distro is EOL, the online repositories typically close
[12:26] <phlak_user> The_BROS: this could show the way -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1757867
[12:26] <ikonia> you can use old repos
[12:26] <empity> KM0201: ok makes sense
[12:26] <ikonia> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[12:26] <Snicksie> you can open an cli clarinet, with ctrl-alt-F(1 to 6 are possibilities)
[12:26] <ikonia> empity: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[12:27] <ikonia> empity: there should still be active repos there
[12:27] <empity> ikonia: good to know, thanks
[12:27] <The_BROS> phlak_user: thanx. But how about uninstall EOG? Is it imposible?
[12:27] <KM0201> The_BROS: why wouldn't it be? sudo apt-get remove eog
[12:28] <clarinet> Snicksie, Yeah, I know that. But I want to enter cli every time I boot the OS.
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS: try sudo apt-get purge eog
[12:28] <The_BROS> KM0201: No. After that my desctop will dissapeare
[12:28] <KM0201> The_BROS:.. what?
[12:29] <empity> looks very nice,but I only find the ubuntu installer packages
[12:29] <pvgrif> can anyone please tell me how to make evolution not download every single email on hotmail?
[12:29] <The_BROS> There are linked packeges
[12:29] <empity> nothing regarding really old packages
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS: don't worry if it will so called remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:29] <pvgrif> i just want it to download the unread ones, not every single one since 2003
[12:29] <KM0201> The_BROS: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it's not going to actually uninstall your desktop
[12:30] <KM0201> that package really needs to be renamed, lot of newbs make that istake
[12:30] <D_Russ> does anyone know if there is a way to install desktop widgets or gadgets on natty?
[12:30] <clarinet> Can anyone tell me how to boot Ubuntu 10.10 without display manager? Just like runlevel 3 in Red Hat?
[12:31] <jrib> clarinet: why?
[12:31] <ksinkar> do we have anything like dpkg-reconfigure for locale selection?
[12:31] <The_BROS> That is what I see on the screen: The following packages will be REMOVED:  eog* ubuntu-desktop* ubuntustudio-desktop* Will averything be normal after that?
[12:31] <jrib> ksinkar: did you see what I told you?
[12:32] <clarinet> I install the whole OS to my flash disk.
[12:32] <clarinet> may be it can boot faster than GUI mode.
[12:32] <ksinkar> jrib: well it tried but i didn't work
[12:32] <KM0201> The_BROS: how many mb does it say its uninstalling?
[12:32] <ksinkar> jrib: for setting my timezone i did dpkg-reconfigure tzdate
[12:32] <clarinet> because sometime I don't need GUI.
[12:32] <jrib> ksinkar: tried what exactly?
[12:32] <glitchd> need some xorg assistance pls
[12:33] <The_BROS> KM0201: After this operation, 1.729 kB disk space will be freed.
[12:33] <bastidrazor> clarinet: in /etc/default/grub add "text" to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  then sudo update-grub
[12:33] <ksinkar> the grep command that you were talking about
[12:33] <KM0201> The_BROS: there's you're answer.. the ubuntu desktop is gonna be a LOT more than just 1.7kb
[12:33] <jrib> KM0201: the grep command only gives you information
[12:33] <ksinkar> jrib: that is what i tried and I got no response from the terminal
[12:33] <clarinet> bastidrazor, I'll try it, thanks.
[12:33] <The_BROS> KM0201: Thanx a lot, Bro. I will try
[12:33] <KM0201> jrib: i think your tab key prematurely went off
[12:33] <jrib> ksinkar: pastebin your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:33] <KM0201> lol
[12:33] <glitchd> do i need more than one display driver outlined in xorg.conf?
[12:34] <jrib> KM0201: *nod* :D
[12:34] <glitchd> or just the one i use?
[12:35] <pvgrif> how can i make evolution only download new emails?
[12:35] <ksinkar> jrib: well it does not have any entries for LANG
[12:35] <m1r> hello, Ubuntu 10.04 fresh install. sound freeze problem with 00:09.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1).
[12:35] <m1r> any tips how to fix this ?
[12:36] <jrib> ksinkar: for me to help you, you need to pastebin that fiule
[12:36] <jrib> ksinkar: you don't have to of course
[12:36] <ksinkar> jrib: now i get what you are trying to tell me
[12:36] <ksinkar> but i don't want a configuration like that
[12:36] <jrib> ksinkar: that *is* the default configuration
[12:36] <ksinkar> the client should not be able to pass locale environment variables
[12:37] <jrib> ksinkar: if that's what you want, then remove or comment the line in sshd_config
[12:37] <ksinkar> jrib: i have removed that line from my config file. it is there in the backup that I had taken
[12:37] <antismap> m1r : if you use only one sound card, you could try to uninstall pulseaudio
[12:37] <ksinkar> jrib: so how do i set my locale
[12:38] <ksinkar> jrib: back to square one?
[12:38] <jrib> ksinkar: have you restarted the sshd server since modifying the config file?
[12:39] <ksinkar> jrib: yes
[12:39] <glitchd> do i need more than one display driver outlined in xorg.conf?
[12:40] <eiarai> join #hacklabturku@IRCnet
[12:41] <glitchd> do i need more than one display driver outlined in xorg.conf?
[12:41] <m1r> antismap: yes, i have only one soundcard, how would i go with "safe" uninstall of pulse audio ?
[12:43] <maxximus> anybody have issues with vnc when screensaver kicks in?
[12:44] <antismap> m1r : well i don't really remember each step, i found some tutorial online explaining it step by step. This could maybe fix your problem, but pulseaudio is not always the source of the problems
[12:45] <jrib> ksinkar: I commented out the line and indeed LANG does not get set.  Ask #openssh if there is some nice way.  If not, just add it to /etc/profile
[12:50] <sciaiatt> ciao
[12:52] <amin`> how could I recompile xmonad to see the changes which i recently made in xmonad.hs
[12:56] <nailox> how would I remove the contents of a dir? i tried rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-emtpy but it doesnt work
[12:56] <SwedeMike> nailox: rm -rf <directory>
[12:57] <m477_> i have core 2 duo and flash ( youtube videos ) consume a bigger part of my cpu, what can I do? i have flash installed and it occurs on different web browsers
[12:57] <nailox> tnx SwedeMike
[12:58] <m_bisson> m477_: i have te same problem with a different CPU
[12:58] <m_bisson> the video also stutters quite a bit for me
[12:58] <piroman> pls help
[12:59] <m477_> there is process ( plugin container ) which do that, until it isnt killed
 nailox: rm -rf <directory>
[12:59] <Tophan> always do this: rm ../<currentdir>/<somedir> -rf
[12:59] <Tophan> parametrs at the very end
[13:00] <duffman> may i ask why?
[13:00] <Tophan> to avoid mistakes
[13:00] <Deihmos> how can I tell if graphics acceleration is working? the UI is so laggy
[13:00] <Tophan> rm -rf is serious buisness duffman
[13:00] <Tophan> proceed with caution
[13:01]  * phlak_user thinks sudo rm -fr is a killer
[13:01] <duffman> Tophan: right, it is. but doesn't your method incite going up a line changing the last folder and hitting enter without looking too much?
[13:01] <DavidS5> Bonjour à tous.
[13:04] <amin`> i add the toggle  in xmonad but (for work-space toggle) but i get this error  http://pastebin.com/dbGdk1qf   this is my xmonad.hs  http://pastebin.com/Xj79J58j
[13:04] <duffman> both of you suggested for nailox to remove the directory completely, instead of emptying it.
[13:07] <sakhi_> can someone please test this link: I'm testing from out South Africa: http://www.mfp-dop.org/live
[13:09] <Guest69541> can anyone tell me how solve java plugin problems??
[13:09] <Guest69541>  IcedTeaPlugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.1.1 (1.1.1-0ubuntu1~11.04.1))
[13:09] <Guest69541> i use chrome
[13:12]  * auronandace doesn't understand why people use chrome when chromium is in the repos
[13:13] <cvam> I tried software-center.it says "segmentation fault". I've removed thunderbird from synaptic . But it's not complete. Details are http://paste.ubuntu.com/701647/ . after a reboot i can launch  software-center. no segmentation fault. How to complete the thunderbird removing process now ?
[13:13] <maxximus> anyone expert on vnc for ubuntu?
[13:17] <codefriar> Help! my user crontab isn't running!
[13:17] <codefriar> how can I make it work?
[13:17] <ikonia> codefriar: why don't you explain your problem
[13:18] <codefriar> ikonia: so I have what I believe is a perfectly valid crontab file edited with crontab -e
[13:18] <codefriar> however, it's not runniung every hour
[13:18] <cvam> I tried software-center.it says "segmentation fault". I've removed thunderbird from synaptic . But it's not complete. Details are http://paste.ubuntu.com/701647/ . after a reboot i can launch  software-center. no segmentation fault. How to complete the thunderbird removing process now ?
[13:18] <ikonia> codefriar: can you show me the crontab line ?
[13:18] <codefriar> 0 0,6,12,18 * * * /bin/bash -l -c 'backup perform -t jiradb'
[13:19] <ikonia> codefriar: that's doesn't look very valid
[13:19] <ikonia> codefriar: keep in mind I don't know your personal environment
[13:19] <codefriar> fairly generic / stock ubuntu install
[13:19] <dr_willis> dont you need to give full paths in cron normally. the -c /full/path/to/the/thing
[13:20] <codefriar> ikonia: what doesn't look valid?
[13:21] <ikonia> codefriar: why you are launching bash, the command "backup perform" etc etc
[13:22] <ikonia> codefriar: keep in mind you may need to use full paths if the default shell enviornment isn't setup to deal with this.
[13:24] <codefriar> ikonia: so I should just call backup directly with the full path?
[13:24] <ikonia> codefriar: that may be a better option
[13:25] <ikonia> codefriar: I'm not familiar with the command "backup" so don't know it's behaviour
[13:25] <codefriar> is there a way to test crontabs/
[13:25] <GirlyGirl> How can I configure the Display Off function key on the ASUS EeePC 1005ha?
[13:26] <mekwall> hi! I'm trying to figure out why ssh is taking ages to connect to a remote server... it takes about 30 seconds
[13:26] <Deihmos> GirlyGirl, how does ubuntu perform on that netbook? I have one and the performance was ass compared to win 7. Is there anything you did
[13:27] <codefriar> ikonia: how's this look: 0 0,6,12,18 * * * /usr/local/bin/backup perform -t jiradb
[13:27] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: I run Kubuntu from 9.10 and up, it performed fine, just 11.04 can very slow graphics issues but then it was fixed by updating to kde 4.7 series from kubuntu backports
[13:28] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: Right now it manages kwin desktop effects fine on unity it lags sometimes though
[13:28] <ikonia> codefriar: to me, that looks better
[13:28] <codefriar> ikonia: is there a way to test?
[13:28] <ikonia> run it
[13:29] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: But I have upgraded the RAM to 2 GB and its the Xp netbook not win 7
[13:29] <Deihmos> I have the same netbook with same memory upgrade and I found that ubuntu was really slow on it
[13:29] <codefriar> ikonia: how can I run y crontab? and how can I test that it will execute @ the right time?
[13:29] <Deihmos> mine came with xp but upgraded to 7
[13:29] <touson> hey guys, can anyone help me with an xorg.conf issue?
[13:30] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: The only things I "did" is use KDE and tweak some qt rendering settings
[13:30] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: so can't be of much help
[13:31] <Deihmos> you found ubuntu to perform better than xp ?
[13:31] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: Also the netbook runs better with swap off than on I don't know why
[13:31] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: Ubuntu no, graphics lag, Kubuntu yes (note some previous KDE versions had quirks)
[13:32] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: But XFCE is fine as well
[13:32] <phlak_user> codefriar: set the time of execution to 1 min from now?
[13:32] <Deihmos> i never liked the look of kubuntu
[13:33] <GirlyGirl> Deihmos: If you want join #kubuntu if you ever need help changing the look as you can make it look like anything you want actually
[13:35] <touson> Hey people I could really use some help with configuring my xorg.conf on a G4 install
[13:36] <spencer> I recently purchase a Virgin broadband2go modem for my laptop.  No luck getting to run. I have ubuntu 10.04 and located in the states. Can you folks make a suggestion what will work?
[13:38] <Willis420> i had trouble with wireless internet on 10.04 also, but it works fine with 11.04
[13:38] <touson> quit
[13:38] <Willis420> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:38] <Willis420> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:38] <Willis420> i get this trying to install java
[13:39] <spencer> Willis420, what device did you use?
[13:39] <phlak_user> spencer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1292605
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> Willis420: try to reboot in Recovery Mode and then choose Repair
[13:39] <qrq> Willis420 Reboot
[13:39] <mbutubuntu> hello folks, I've discovered that in every shell I open the http_proxy enviroment variable is automatically set with an IP:PORT... I've never added that variable neither configured a main proxy for the OS... is there any conffile in /etc to disable this enviroment variable? thanks
[13:40] <phlak_user> Willis420: did you use sudo?
[13:40] <mbutubuntu> [Is it possible ti could be a BUG, or a malicious software?]
[13:40] <jrib> mbutubuntu: you probably installed a package that set it.  Check /etc/environment maybe
[13:41] <Willis420> installing for the android-sdk
[13:41] <mbutubuntu> jrib, no, it /etc/enviroment only PATH: is setted up
[13:41] <mbutubuntu>  can manually disable it... but how to discover who/what have setted up that variable?!
[13:41] <tattus> Hello everyone
[13:42] <tattus> Could anyone tell me the recommended size to swap partition ?
[13:42] <ikonia> tattus: there is no recommended size, it depends on your setup
[13:42] <qrq> 2xRAM
[13:43] <tattus> hm...
[13:43] <usr13> tattus: Samme size as ram or more, as much as 2x
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> i have no swap
[13:43] <usr13> MonkeyDust: We are sorry to hear that.
[13:43] <tattus> So, I have 4gb
[13:44] <tattus> 8 gb ?
[13:44] <tattus> so I should put like
[13:44] <usr13> 8G is good
[13:44] <ikonia> tattus: I would say no more than 6 max
[13:44] <ikonia> unless you are using your machine VERY heavey AND you're planning to use swap/hibernate
[13:45] <ikonia> tattus: are you planning to use suspend/hibernate ?
[13:45] <tattus> yes
[13:45] <tattus> I frequently use hibernate
[13:45] <usr13> 8G would be good, I would say...
[13:45] <tattus> first time I intalled I putted 2 gb
[13:45] <ikonia> tattus: ok, so unless you plan to thrash your machine for sustained periods of time, I'd say no more than 6GB
[13:45] <tattus> and it was taking so long
[13:45] <tattus> to get start after hibernate...
[13:46] <tattus> is it bad to hibernate ?
[13:46] <qrq> Jesus.....
[13:46] <usr13> tattus: It just takes a while.
[13:46] <GirlyGirl> So any solution for two function keys on eeePC 1005ha. 1. Display Off does not work 2. Touchpad off disables the touchpad but the indicator light does not come on
[13:47] <tattus> here was taking a quite long time, hehehe xD
[13:47] <touson> Can anyone offer any guidance on the correct config for my xorg.conf file?
[13:47] <usr13> touson: Don't use one
[13:47] <touson> ha ha ha ha
[13:47] <touson> thanks usr13
[13:47] <tattus> one more thing, I just brought a external hd usb 3
[13:47] <kernkraft> Ubuntu entreprise cloud server is bad
[13:48] <tattus> and when I connected to the pc
[13:48] <touson> I have install ubuntu 10.04 onto an old MAC G4
[13:48] <tattus> the screen got black
[13:48] <Pici> !enter
[13:48] <tattus> with lot o "code"...
[13:48] <touson> everything seems to work apart from the screen resolution
[13:48] <touson> I can only get 800x600
[13:49] <touson> I have been reading up on xserver for the last few days and have got my head arouns what needs to be done but I can't seem to get it working
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> !enter| touson
[13:49] <tattus> I use 11.04 when that happened when I connected the external HD, does anyone know why ? =s
[13:49] <touson> my bad, sorry
[13:50] <usr13> touson: What display adapter are you using?
[13:51] <usr13> touson: What does xrandr  say?  Show us:  xrandr | pastebinit  #And send resulting URL here.
[13:51] <usr13> touson: Are you using a KVM switch?
[13:51] <touson> ATI Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS and no KVM
[13:52] <usr13> touson: Older PC?
[13:52] <touson> MAC G4
[13:52] <usr13> OH, it's a MAC.
[13:52] <usr13> xrandr | pastebinit
[13:52] <touson> k, one sec
[13:53] <dean> Hi all I have deleted my network manager icon on my panel could someone tell me how I can get it back at all please?
[13:54] <usr13> dean: Alt-F2  network-manager
[13:54] <touson> usr13: just installing pastebinit
[13:55] <dean> usr13, No such file or directory I press alt + f2 typed in network-manager and it came up with an error
[13:55] <usr13> dean: (Hold Alt key while hitting F2 then type in   "network-manager" without quotes.)
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> dean: try alt-f2 nm-applet
[13:55] <usr13> and hit enter
[13:56] <usr13> dean: As MonkeyDust suggests, run   nm-applet
[13:56] <usr13> (I stand corrected.)  ... I think.
[13:56] <telemare> anyone knows how to burn .dmg files into a dvd from linux
[13:56] <touson> usr13: http://pastebin.com/X5Rk9jb1
[13:56] <dean> MonkeyDust, Ok I typed that in pressed enter no error came up but no network icon on my panel?
[13:56] <odinsbane> Does anybody here get a filenot found when trying to execute 32bit files with 64bit ubuntu?
[13:56] <ikonia> touson: they are apple package files
[13:56] <ikonia> odinsbane: that won't work
[13:56] <kernkraft> woon't work
[13:57] <ikonia> odinsbane: unless the library is dynamically linked to a multi-lib enviornment
[13:57] <Snicksie> telemare, i think you can rename them to .iso and afterwards just burning, but i'm not 100% sure :)
[13:57] <usr13> touson: Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file now?   (ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[13:57] <odinsbane> ikonia: I have been told that it does work.  I have also seen a 32 bit file be executed on a 64bit system.
[13:57] <Snicksie> hm, nope telemare, but you can use a dmg2iso converter and burn them afterwards :)
[13:58] <telemare> i cant find that app
[13:58] <touson> usr13: here's my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/X6ubpuC9
[13:58] <ikonia> odinsbane: I've just said 32bit files can work if they are dynamically linked to a multi-lib environment....yours sounds like it is not, or is missing the 32bit libs
[13:58] <odinsbane> ikonia: So, are you saying that would produce a 'file not found'
[13:58] <kernkraft> I install Ubuntu entreprise server but when i try to login it don't work
[13:58] <ikonia> odinsbane: yes
[13:59] <ikonia> kernkraft: define "doesn't work"
[13:59] <usr13> touson: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[13:59] <odinsbane> ikonia: what if the file came with static libs, that were also 32bit?
[13:59] <kernkraft> I'm french it's difficult ..
[13:59] <ikonia> odinsbane: it depends on how it's setup
[13:59] <ikonia> kernkraft: maybe try #ubuntu-fr ?
[13:59] <usr13> touson: And then:  sudo service gdm restart
[14:00] <kernkraft> When i install it there is just a mail to configure
[14:00] <touson> usr13: I logged into the main console (not into X) and ran X -configure as root.  It  created an xorg.conf.new file in /root, which I then copied to /etc/X11/xorg.conf after updating it with the display modes
[14:00] <kernkraft> And this mail can activate other user account
[14:01] <usr13> odinsbane: You will need to build a multilib system in order to run 32bit apps on a 64bit system.
[14:01] <odinsbane> ikonia: how about this 32bit program which requires glfw, glfw is 64bit. Would that get a file not found?
[14:01] <ikonia> odinsbane: correct
[14:01] <oYdVeey> Help! my keyboard's acting real slow, any ideas?
[14:01] <usr13> touson: Did you try running it without an xorg.conf file?
[14:01] <oYdVeey> It's fine when I was logging in
[14:01] <dean> usr13, I typed in the command that you and MonkeyDust gave me but I am still not getting an icon I checked in Synaptic and it is showing I have network manager installed
[14:01] <oYdVeey> was*
[14:02] <oYdVeey> But then it just acts real slow after I logged in, and my mouse works fine
[14:02] <usr13> dean: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[14:02] <usr13> dean: What command did you run?
[14:02] <odinsbane> Thanks for the heads up.
[14:03] <kernkraft> Is there an IRC channel for Ubuntu-fr
[14:03] <kernkraft> ?
[14:03] <usr13> !fr | kernkraft
[14:03] <kernkraft> cool
[14:03] <kernkraft> ty
[14:03] <dean> usr13, I have 10.04 I ran nm-applet first then network-manager afterwards
[14:03] <oYdVeey> Guys... c'mon, help :(
[14:03] <touson> usr13: Just tried what you said and it's still the same i.e. only 800x600 available
[14:04] <hmartins> hi
[14:04] <hmartins> I had bought a wireless card for my desktop ubuntu
[14:04] <usr13> touson: Look at the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log   and see what driver it is using.
[14:04] <usr13> hmartins: and.... ?
[14:04] <hmartins> the wireless card I had bought was  TL-WN723N
[14:05] <hmartins> and I done this to make it workds
[14:05] <hmartins> works
[14:05] <hmartins> http://crcok.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/install-tp-link-150-mbps-mini-wireless-n-usb-adapter-tl-wn723n-in-ubuntu/
[14:05] <hmartins> but the connection is to slow
[14:05] <hmartins> I had try that on windows machine and the speed its ok, very fast
[14:06] <usr13> !enter | hmartins
[14:06] <usr13> hmartins: Are you booted to Ubuntu now?
[14:07] <hmartins> yes
[14:07] <Willis420> bad grammer, lol
[14:07] <k4l-3l> i'm very exited in run ubuntu mobile on a smartphone, like n900, but i want to know if are any other device with omap that provides support to ubuntu mobile omap3
[14:07] <k4l-3l> i'm very exited in run ubuntu mobile on a smartphone, like n900, but i want to know if are any other device with omap that provides support to ubuntu mobile omap3?
[14:07] <usr13> hmartins: Let's do a couple of tests.
[14:07] <madwill> if i want to update a single program through command line how should i proceed
[14:07] <hmartins> usr13: I am on wired now to use a fasted internet
[14:07] <Willis420> atrix has ubuntu on its webtop
[14:08] <hmartins> but wireless card it's plugged
[14:08] <hmartins> usr13: let's try your tests please
[14:08] <touson> usr13: Here's the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/Z0ifuKjw
[14:08] <usr13> hmartins: See my pm
[14:08] <aboSamoor> Hi, I can not tunnel X server over ssh ? any idea ?
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> !details| aboSamoor
[14:09] <k4l-3l> i'm very exited in run ubuntu mobile on a smartphone, like n900, but i want to know, are any other device with omap that provides support to ubuntu mobile omap3?
[14:10] <touson> usr13: I believe I am using the R128 driver
[14:10] <phlak_user> !repeat| k4l-3l
[14:10] <oYdVeey> C'mon guys, help help help, my keyboard suddenly goes really slow, my mouse works fine, even the keyboard was fine when I was logging in, but after I logged in my mouse works, but my keyboard wouldn't have any reactions unless I press the button for 2 or more than 2 secs, any ideas how to fix it??
[14:11] <Willis420> k4l-31; moto atrix has ubuntu on its webtop
[14:11] <dean> usr13, Did you see my reply?
[14:12] <k4l-3l> sorry, i was sorry, I was correcting my question.
[14:14] <touson> usr13: any thoughts?
[14:14] <usr13> dean: Yes, not sure why it is not working, you might try and reboot.
[14:14] <oYdVeey> C'mon guys, help help help, my keyboard suddenly goes really slow, my mouse works fine, even the keyboard was fine when I was logging in, but after I logged in my mouse works, but my keyboard wouldn't have any reactions unless I press the button for 2 or more than 2 secs, any ideas how to fix it??
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> oYdVeey: in Control Center, you find Assistive technology > Keyboard
[14:14] <oYdVeey> Yes, and?
[14:14] <GirlyGirl> Kubuntu 11.04 x86 2.6.38-11-generic #48-Ubuntu i686, Wifi reception is worse than on Windows with an Atheros AR9285 card
[14:15] <dean> usr13, When I type in network-manager it comes up with a error message no such file or directory could I possibly try reinstalling it?
[14:15] <Snicksie> isn't it nm-applet, dean?
[14:15] <oYdVeey> THank you sooooooooooooooo much, MonkeyDust, I think I know how to fix it now
[14:15] <usr13> dean: What does   nm-applet   do?
[14:16] <dean> usr13, Snicksie I type in nm-applet in alt + f2 and press ok no error message pops up but no icon on my panel
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> oYdVeey: thumbs up :)
[14:18] <GirlyGirl> any ideas?
[14:18] <oYdVeey> Errrr, nope, it's not that, I still have to press a button for at least 2 secs in order to make it appear on the screen.....
[14:18] <oYdVeey> :(
[14:18] <oYdVeey> Again, helpp
[14:18] <usr13> dean: Do you use a wireless connection?
[14:19] <dean> usr13, I am using wireless as we speak
[14:19] <Milossh> hello, how can I add a python script as a ubuntu terminal command?
[14:19] <sattu94> Hi, i just added the gnome3 ppa from launchpad.
[14:19] <sattu94> and installed gnome3-session package. on my ubuntu 11.04 install.
[14:19] <sattu94> For some reason when i select gnome 3 from the GDM selection menu, it just loops back to the gdm login screen.
[14:19] <user82> how can i search with a or in nautilus? (i want to find .jpg and .cr2 files in one search)
[14:20] <jrib> Milossh: put it in your ~/bin
[14:20] <Milossh> jusr ~/bin ?
[14:20] <D_Russ> anyone know where i can get some fancy fonts that will work in 11.04 and how to install them for inkscape?
[14:20] <dean> usr13, I am gonna reboot and see what happens brb
[14:20] <Milossh> jrib, you mean /bin ?
[14:20] <jrib> Milossh: no
[14:20] <Milossh> I don't have /bin in home
[14:21] <jrib> Milossh: create the "bin" directory in your home and login again
[14:21] <user82> jrib a bin in home is automatically added? did not know that yet..thanks
[14:22] <user82> (with added i mean the binaries in there are globally terminal commands)
[14:22] <Milossh> jrib, thanks. do I need to add some kind of the header in python scripts?
[14:23] <jrib> user82: it's in ubuntu's default ~/.profile (checks if ~/bin exists and adds it to path if it does)
[14:23] <oYdVeey> Okkayyyyyyy, again thanks MonkeyDust, I was dumb enough couldn't figure it out, it was right there in front of meh -.-"
[14:23] <user82> aah ok..thats what i wanted to know that it is added to the path!
[14:23] <jrib> Milossh: your python scripts should be executable and have a proper shebang line yes (e.g. #!/usr/bin/env python)
[14:23] <oYdVeey> Anyway, good luck others who are seeking helps :D
[14:23] <oYdVeey> I'm outta here
[14:23] <user82> (i usually put mine via sudo to /usr/bin)
  apt-cache search ttf
[14:24] <intellectus> repos have true type fonts
[14:24] <intellectus> any ttf fonts from anywhere should work
[14:24] <dean> usr13, No good. I have typed in terminal nm-applet and it displays an instance of nm-applet is already running and then I typed in network-manager and it displayed command not found
[14:24] <jrib> user82: yeah that's good if you want it to be available to all users though I'd suggest /usr/local/bin/ instead so that the package manager doesn't interfere and for an organizational bonus
[14:24] <aboudreault> Hi, does anyone installed successfully gnome-shell (gnome3) on ubuntu natty?
[14:25] <aboudreault> tried to used the gnome3-team ppa... but it fails... *Unable to load session ....*
[14:25] <zykotick9> !gnome3 | aboudreault
[14:25] <aboudreault> and it broke my ubuntu session too
[14:25] <aboudreault> zykotick9, thx
[14:26] <codefriar> Help! I dont' think my crontab jobs are running! is there anything i need to do to enable crontabs for users in ubuntu?
[14:26] <Milossh> jrib, it still doesn't recognize syntax
[14:27] <dean> usr13, The thing is my laptop automatically connects so I have a wireless connection working but the icon is gone is there anyway of adding it to the panel?
[14:27] <Milossh> complains about a simple toople. it works if I run it like `python script.py` though
[14:27] <D_Russ> intellectus, after i find the fonts which directory to i install them in? in the truetype fonts folder there are several directories
[14:27] <whelmingbytes> Hi, I have installed 11.10 B2 and am having trouble enabling desktop effects when logging in with Ubuntu Classic. Any help?
[14:27] <Fanfare> Q: whats the differeenze of tty1 and tty2-6? pam_fprint works for tty2-6 but not on tty1! "Could not locate any suitable fingerprints matched with available hardware"?
[14:28] <Milossh> *tuple
[14:28] <intellectus> D_Russ:  /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[14:28] <iceroot> whelmingbytes: #ubuntu+1
[14:28] <whelmingbytes> iceroot: thanks
[14:28] <phlak_user> whelmingbytes: go to #ubuntu+1
[14:29] <D_Russ> intellectus, there ae several folders there. So i dont need to put it into any one of those folders just drop it in that directory and thats a wrap?
  /usr/share/fonts/<your folder>
[14:32] <Guest25090> anyone here?
[14:32] <intellectus> D_Russ:..oops... /usr/share/fonts/truetype/<your folder>
[14:32] <macs> Hello, i've installed ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop but my wifi card isnt working i'm using a Dell Inspiron 1545
[14:32] <hellofoo> dudes
[14:32] <hellofoo> i am on jaunty
[14:32] <hellofoo> cant install most of the softwares?
[14:33] <hellofoo> it fails to fetch the software form download link
[14:33] <hellofoo> from
[14:33] <qin> !eol | hellofoo
[14:34] <zamba> how i remove the animation when switching workspaces in ubuntu?
[14:34] <D_Russ> intellectus, so i am creating a folder for the fonts in the truetype folder? there is no folder there with my user name on it, there is a ubuntu-font-family folder, and some others
[14:34] <Milossh> hello, how can I add a python script as a ubuntu terminal command? I added it to bin, but it doesn't really see it as python
[14:36] <qin> Milossh: Do you have shebang?
[14:36] <Milossh> yes
[14:36] <Milossh> I fixed it
[14:36] <Milossh> don't know how though, but I did
[14:36] <Milossh> thanks
[14:36] <FloodBot1> Milossh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <dean> usr13, I done it finally lol
[14:38] <qin> macs: Is your card listed in: jockey-gtk ?
[14:38] <macs> qin not that i know of
[14:39] <binarymutant> I have some really bad X artifacts all over my screen. I've restarted X a few times and they will not go away. Any suggestions?
[14:39] <jamil> thhey there
[14:39] <jamil> hey there
[14:40] <jamil> any one to help me out
[14:40] <jamil> i have DELL D610
[14:40] <dr_willis> you dont need to hit enter every 3 words...
[14:40] <k4l-3l> a few days ago, i was leastned about the change place of storage of the linux kernel to gihub. anybody know where i download the most recent version of kernel
[14:40] <k4l-3l> ?
[14:40] <jamil> my laptop audio out not working
[14:41] <sattu94> Hi, i just added the gnome3 ppa from launchpad.
[14:41] <sattu94> and installed gnome3-session package. on my ubuntu 11.04 install.
[14:41] <jamil> its working in windows but not in ubuntu
[14:41] <sattu94> For some reason when i select gnome 3 from the GDM selection menu, it just loops back to the gdm login screen.
[14:41] <dr_willis> !git
[14:41] <qin> macs: Please paste output of following in paste.ubuntu.com: iwconfig; lspci; jockey-text --list;
[14:41] <k4l-3l> yes, i know and use git
[14:41] <RTFMnow> binarymutant: try disabling desktop effects
[14:41] <macs> qin ok 1 second
[14:42] <qin> sattu94: What does: lsb_release -a
[14:42] <jamil> hey there
[14:42] <jamil> my laptop audio out not working
[14:42] <jamil> its working in windows but not in ubuntu
[14:42] <k4l-3l> but i don't know where are the linux kernel sources to download.
[14:42] <binarymutant> RTFMnow: I'm not using any composite (like compiz) :/
[14:42] <qin> binarymutant: Unity?
[14:42] <sattu94> No LSB modules are available.
[14:42] <Polah> jamil: Repeating your question 30 seconds later won't get it answered any quicker. If somebody can suggest a way to help you, they will.
[14:42] <binarymutant> qin: no unity either
[14:42] <dr_willis> !kernel
[14:43] <sattu94> qin: followed with some info abt the system.
[14:43] <RTFMnow> ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/
[14:43] <dr_willis> jamil:  check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact make of laptop also.
[14:43] <Olotila> I'm on server, how do I mount CD?
[14:43] <qin> sattu94: So: uname -a
[14:43] <auronandace> !gnome3 | sattu94
[14:43] <dr_willis> Olotila:  mount command. same as you would any otehr filesystem
[14:43] <RTFMnow> if kernel.org is down, use mirrors or your distro's site
[14:43] <qin> sattu94: "some info"?
[14:43] <touson> hi, can anyone help?  I have a problem with my xorg.conf file
[14:43] <sattu94> auronandace: i dont care about unity, i use xmonad, just want to try out gnome3..
[14:43] <eraejorma> is there a way for me to copy the Xubuntu installation packages from one laptop to another?
[14:44] <eraejorma> The another laptop has it installed.
[14:44] <Polah> !clone | eraejorma
[14:44] <sattu94> qin: what exactly do you want from uname -a ?
[14:44] <RTFMnow> binarymutant: you may try using framebuffer X11, should have no problems, otherwise edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:44] <Olotila> dr_willis, says cant find cd in /etc/fstab or /etc mtab
[14:44] <auronandace> sattu94: i'm sure you care about "other parts of your system"
[14:44] <k4l-3l> ubottu, thank you, i will compile, because after my last upgrade my custon kernel has gone.
[14:44] <RTFMnow> try to disable anything that may cause problems with you adaptor
[14:44] <Polah> olotila: mount -t <filesystem> -o <options> /dev/devicename /mount/point
[14:44] <dr_willis> eraejorma:  you can copy over the /var/cache/apt/ dir also.  I set up an apt-cacher-ng server on my lan to cache the packages for all the network.
[14:44] <jamil> well i think its with some updates i have installed ...cuz it was perfect before
[14:45] <qin> sattu94: Well, lets put it this way: gnome3 is not supported below 11.10, and 11.10issupported in #ubuntu+1
[14:46] <eraejorma> dr_willis, Copy what to where?
[14:46] <touson> anyone?  I could really use some help
[14:46] <raven> 11.04 VPN - config not possible?
[14:46] <Olotila> Polah, I dont have the skill to fill those blanks :)
[14:46] <Polah> eraejorma, somewhere you won't format from
[14:46] <dr_willis> copy /var/cache/apt to the other pc... same location
[14:46] <Olotila> how do I get to a different partition on hd?
[14:46] <Olotila> i got some files there
[14:47] <dr_willis> !mount | Olotila
[14:47] <Olotila> cd or a different partition
[14:47] <dr_willis> Olotila:  sudo mkdir /media/stuff
[14:47] <Willis420> if i use chronium more than firefox, will it hurt to uninstall firefox?
[14:47] <macs> qin http://paste.ubuntu.com/701711/
[14:47] <dr_willis> Olotila:  sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/stuff
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> Willis420: it's what i did, so no
[14:48] <Willis420> ok thanks MonkeyDust, sorry for the noobness, lol
[14:48] <eraejorma> dr_willis, It say i dont have permissions to copy. (used nautilus under sudo, when copying(
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> we were all n00bs, once
[14:49] <Olotila> dr_willis thanks!
[14:49] <zarlino> hi all, does anybody know if/when 64bit will be the "default"?
[14:49] <touson> Can anyone help me?  I have installed ubuntu 10.04 onto an old MAC G4, but I can't get the graphics drivers working properly, it only allows me to choose a maximum of 800x600 res
[14:49] <dr_willis> eraejorma:  its best to not use nautilus as root.. easy to really mess things up.
[14:49] <dr_willis> zarlino:  i imagine not for a very long time.
[14:49] <eraejorma> Seemed the fastest way.
[14:50] <Fanfare> Q: whats the differeenze of tty1 and tty2-6? pam_fprint works for tty2-6 but not on tty1! "Could not locate any suitable fingerprints matched with available hardware"?
[14:50] <qin> macs: What does say: rfkill list
[14:50] <zarlino> dr_willis: because of flash and other closed software?
[14:51] <dr_willis> thats one good reason zarlino
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> touson: maybe this link helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[14:52] <raven> 11.04 VPN - config not possible?
[14:52] <met2443> when i do nmap scan on localhost i find port 800 pipelining. should i be worried?
[14:52] <DXBLouie> guys i've had one of my Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS machines compromised today through PHP My Admin..  i'm running the latest packages.. and i caught the attack before much damage was done, but it got me thinking, does www-data need to have /bin/sh as its shell?! are there any drawbacks to setting it to /bin/false?
[14:53] <WollyJumper> Anybody have any theories why my internet gets very slow very quickly? - i.e after re-booting the first webpage i visit  loads slow but each new site  or page load is slower than the last it's unusable after a few minutes. problem is from Lucid onwards earlier versions were fine.
[14:53] <eraejorma> dr_willis, So after i've copied it over, .. then what? How do i get the Xubuntu on for the another machine?
[14:54] <dr_willis> eraejorma:  via the package mnager
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> WollyJumper: type ps -e|grep kworker and see if it finds something => kworker is a known bug
[14:56] <eraejorma> dr_willis, seems to be working, thanks
[14:56] <eraejorma> Atleast the install seems to work
[14:57] <touson> MonkeyDust: thanks i'll take a look
[14:57] <macs> qin http://paste.ubuntu.com/701720/
[14:59] <Syco54645_work> needing some grub2 help. i currently have my server installed to a flash drive. i have a ssd that just came in today so i will be moving it to that via dd. what do i need to change in grub2 to get it to still boot?
[14:59] <qin> macs: uhm, broadcom... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:59] <macs> Thanks
[15:02] <scratchingmyhead> Just wondering why the software centre shows all this installed software but a menu search doesn't find it on the computer??
[15:03] <Pici> scratchingmyhead: What sort of software?
[15:04] <scratchingmyhead> I dont know,,, just trying to randomly remove a lot of software that I dont use to lighten up the sys. and I see some cool stuff I would like to check out already installed but not able to see it.
[15:04] <scratchingmyhead> Or find it on the sys
[15:04] <Pici> scratchingmyhead: Are you sure that the packages you installed actually provide graphical interfaces? Perhaps they are all cli tools.
[15:04] <dr_willis> Syco54645_work:  you can do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and tell it to install to the other hd. is one way. theres a dozen ways to get grub to install to the other hd.
[15:05] <Syco54645_work> dr_willis: it would install using dd though wouldnt it?
[15:05] <scratchingmyhead> Pici for example QTNX
[15:05] <dr_willis> Syco54645_work:  i wouldent use dd to install grub  from one hd to another...
[15:05] <dr_willis> Syco54645_work:  unless you were imageing the flash to the sdd.
[15:05] <Syco54645_work> dr_willis: i will be imaging the entire system
[15:05] <Syco54645_work> since it is all set up now
[15:05] <scratchingmyhead> Pici I see,,, so what good is it if you don't even know it is there?
[15:06] <dr_willis> Syco54645_work:  then dd would grab grub and everything else.
[15:06] <Pici> scratchingmyhead: It doesn't look like that installs a menu entry for whatever reason.
[15:06] <dr_willis> Syco54645_work:  ive done it that way befor. Installed to a 4gb flash. dd'd it to a 100gb hd.. had to then resize the fs with gparted
[15:06] <Syco54645_work> dr_willis: but grub would need to be fixed so that it actually boots right?
[15:07] <dr_willis> Syco54645_work:  i did not have to fix anything. other then the fs
[15:07] <scratchingmyhead> Pici there are quite a few???   thats why I'm hahaha scratchinmyhead
[15:07] <scratchingmyhead> thx
[15:07] <Syco54645_work> dr_willis: ah, good to know. hopefully it will just work then
[15:07] <dr_willis> Syco54645_work:  i was suprised at how well it worked for my test machine. :)
[15:07] <Pici> scratchingmyhead: You can do dpkg -L packagname | grep bin  to find the executable(s) for the packages you install if you can't find them otherwise.
[15:08] <Syco54645_work> well then, i guess i dont have much to do tonight other than a dd
[15:08] <Syco54645_work> dr_willis: thanks for the info
[15:09] <GTRsdk> how do I make a theme in Lucid?
[15:09] <ikonia> GTRsdk: same as any other gnome 2 based distribution
[15:09] <ikonia> gnome-look has some good information on it
[15:09] <ikonia> as does gnome.org
[15:11] <boxybrown> Hi there
[15:11] <bhavesh_> Whenever I login into ubuntu, Unity gets selected as default.. even though I shut down my computer while in GNOME 3
[15:11] <GTRsdk> ikonia, do you know of a specific page on theming Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:11] <boxybrown> we are currently using NIS for network authentication of users, and would like to update this to something more modern.  Any suggestions for what we should be using?
[15:11] <ikonia> GTRsdk: the version doesn't matter, its' the same for any gnome 2 based distribution
[15:11] <ikonia> GTRsdk: there doesn't need to be a specific 10.04 page, as it's the same for any gnome 2 based distro
[15:12] <GTRsdk> oh so it would work on 9.10, 10.04, 10.10, and 11.04?
[15:12] <ikonia> not 11.04 as that is unity driven
[15:13] <dr_willis> and once you get into gnome-3 themeing is.. well.. a work in progress. :)
[15:13] <ikonia> agreed
[15:13] <GTRsdk> okay
[15:13] <dr_willis> Given the move to gnome-3  thats going on. I dont see much point in learning to theme gnome2 unless you just want to learn some stuff. :)
[15:13] <ikonia> agreed it will be a dying platform
[15:16] <GTRsdk> I just want to change the window borders and menu backgrounds
[15:16] <ikonia> GTRsdk: there are tons already on gnome-look,
[15:16] <Cyanure> what is wrong with this command ? $ find /home/cyanure/shared_serial -maxdepth 2 -iname *simp* -a ( -iname *.avi -o -iname *.mkv -o -iname *.flv )
[15:16] <ikonia> have you had a look on there GTRsdk ?
[15:16] <ikonia> Cyanure: I don't believe you can do iname multiple times
[15:16] <ikonia> Cyanure: (I don't know that for a fact though)
[15:17] <GTRsdk> ikonia, yeah, but the window borders I want are transparent. Does GNOME 2 work with transparent window borders?
[15:17] <Arkaitz> -inames must be together
[15:17] <Cyanure> ikonia, it works when I use only the text between parenthesis
[15:17] <Arkaitz> i mean , .flv, ...
[15:17] <bastidrazor> GTRsdk: System > Preferences > Appearances > Theme > Customize.. is that what you're looking for?
[15:17] <ikonia> GTRsdk: with compositing I believe so.
[15:17] <ikonia> Cyanure: because you are using a wildcard
[15:17] <ikonia> Cyanure: you need to quote the wildcard with find
[15:18] <ikonia> the gnu find has tried to stop this, but it must still remain with -iname
[15:18] <GTRsdk> bastidrazor, I found that, but I want to draw my own transparent window border
[15:18] <Cyanure> okonia what is a wildcard?
[15:18] <ikonia> *.avi
[15:18] <ikonia> * is the wildcard
[15:18] <Arkaitz> is it?
[15:18] <Cyanure> ikonia, must put \*?
[15:18] <Error404NotFound> is there any directory like /etc/cron.d where user specific crons can be placed? I already have a file that listed the crons to be run.
[15:18] <ikonia> Cyanure: no, '*.avi' for example
[15:19] <ikonia> Error404NotFound: cron.d is the global control, individual crontabs are in /var/spool/cron
[15:19] <ikonia> Error404NotFound: edit with crontab -e
[15:21] <Error404NotFound> ikonia: say i have file1.crons and file2.crons under a user abc, i want to keep both separate(as scripts update those files on regular basis), both follow the cron syntax. I can only create one file per user, what would be an alternate?
[15:21] <ikonia> Error404NotFound: I would suggest looking at an include in your users crontab
[15:22] <Error404NotFound> ikonia: any hints, what keywords should i put on google? 'include user crontab' ?
[15:22] <WoollyJumper> DustMonkey: There was no process called kworker
[15:22] <ikonia> Error404NotFound: the format is normally something like inclued /home/user/cron1.crontab
[15:23] <ikonia> Error404NotFound: I'm not sure if you can do this in user crontabs, but I believe so, so give it a try
[15:23] <ikonia> Error404NotFound: check the cron docs to see if you can include
[15:23] <Error404NotFound> ikonia: include /path/to/cron.file, where exactly? cron config?
[15:23] <ikonia> Error404NotFound: in the individual users crontab, I don't know if you can do that, it's worth checking
[15:23] <D_Russ> how do i move 9k .ttf files from one directory to another directory that requires su privlages?
[15:24] <D_Russ> sudo mv /home/don/Downloads/*.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family is not working
[15:24] <ikonia> D_Russ: define not working
[15:24] <D_Russ> the files dont move
[15:24] <Cyanure> ikonia, I have th same error with find /home/cyanure/shared_serial -maxdepth 2 -iname '*simp*' -a ( -iname '*.avi' -o -iname '*.mkv' -o -iname '*.flv' )
[15:24] <ikonia> any error ?
[15:24] <D_Russ> no
[15:24] <ikonia> Cyanure: remove the -iname to 1 -iname and work forward from there
[15:25] <ikonia> D_Russ: 9k of files is probably too big a file list,
[15:25] <ikonia> D_Russ: do a loop, it will only take a fraction longer
[15:25] <ikonia> D_Russ: this used to be a common issue with "rm"
[15:25] <D_Russ> how do i do a loop?
[15:25] <ikonia> do a for look
[15:25] <ikonia> oops
[15:25] <ikonia> for loop
[15:26] <D_Russ> huh
[15:26] <D_Russ> is that a command?
[15:26] <Cyanure> ikonia, Didn't get what you just said.
[15:26] <ikonia> Cyanure: you do -iname multiple times, do it once and see if it works, then add a second and see if it filas
[15:27] <ikonia> Cyanure: as I said, I don't believe you can do multiple -inames
[15:27] <D_Russ> is there a way to login as SU and just drag and drop the files?
[15:27] <ikonia> D_Russ: gksudo nautilus
[15:27] <D_Russ> thats the command?
[15:27] <ikonia> D_Russ: yes
[15:27] <D_Russ> thank you
[15:28] <ikonia> D_Russ: that will give you a root enabled file manager
[15:28] <D_Russ> sweet
[15:28] <D_Russ> should make life easier
[15:29] <Eziori> hey guys, so i have ben getting this problem when trying to install 11.04 that when the desktop loads it stops at a certain point, and all i'm left with is the taskbar at the top and the background picture. any ideas on how to fix?
[15:30] <Cyanure> ikonia, ftr If I use \( instead of ( it works : find /home/cyanure/shared_serial -maxdepth 2 -iname '*simp*' -a \( -iname '*.avi' -o -iname '*.mkv' -o -iname '*.flv' \)
 you can put fonts in ~/.fonts apparently,  then run sudo fc-cache -f -v
[15:30] <ikonia> Cyanure: I didn't expect that to work at all
[15:31] <Cyanure> ikonia, yeah but it's better when it works anyway :)
[15:32] <ikonia> Cyanure: nice job
[15:33] <macs> qin the tut isnt working as i dont have internet access on my laptop currently
[15:33] <AdvoWork> whats the latest ubuntu server with lts?
[15:33] <D_Russ> cant find the .fonts folder
[15:34] <Stanley00> !lst| AdvoWork
[15:34] <D_Russ> intellectus, i cant find that folder its not in my home directory, even when i hit view hidden files
[15:34] <Stanley00> AdvoWork: it's 10.04
[15:34] <intellectus> D_Russ, you make a folder called .fonts
[15:34] <D_Russ> ohh i see
[15:34] <Stanley00> !LTS | AdvoWork
[15:35] <D_Russ> then run that command?
[15:35] <D_Russ> sudo fc-cache -f -v
[15:35] <intellectus> D_Russ, yes that updates the font cache
[15:36] <D_Russ> cool
[15:38] <D_Russ> might be overkill to have over 9k different fonts, lol
[15:39] <andyvy> anyone running 11.10 beta 2 who didn't like Unity in 11.04? Is it possible to configure and modify that left panel yet? Is Unity more polished now?
[15:39] <Pici> andyvy : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[15:40] <dr_willis> andyvy:  unity by design dosent have any plans to do much more then basic tweaking of the left side panel.
[15:41] <AdvoWork> Stanley00, thanks! and the lucid lynx 10.04 is that both desktop and server?
[15:41] <andyvy> dr_willis: what if I don't use a touchscreen and really have no need for a menu to take up half a screen, will they let us change size / opaccity eventually?
[15:41] <Stanley00> AdvoWork: yes.
[15:44] <Trashi> hi guys. i installed kubuntu and im missing the grid desktop. For some reason the grouping desktop layout is not included in the ubuntu repository. how can i enable it?
[15:44] <usr13> AdvoWork: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[15:44] <dr_willis> andyvy:  compiz lets you resize the icons i set mine to be like size 16
[15:45] <dr_willis> andyvy:  and the compiz plugin also lets you set opacity now.
[15:45] <AdvoWork> anyone here use xen? and have installed ubuntu with it?
[15:45] <andyvy> oh really? where is that option at?
[15:45] <dr_willis> andyvy:  unity plugin in ccsm
[15:45] <andyvy> kk thx dr_willis
[15:45] <dr_willis> Time to check out some Unity tweaking guides. :) and the list of indicator-applets at askubuntu.com
[15:46] <tonysan_> Can I change the bindkey in screen to some specific sequence of keystrokes?
[15:47] <dr_willis> tonysan_:  you mean the ctrl-a key combo?
[15:48] <tonysan_> dr_willis: I am using an android device which lacks of Ctrl, Alt, so I need to change the bindkeys
[15:48] <tonysan_> better without the Ctrl-A...
[15:49] <dr_willis> tonysan_:  that irssiconnectbot program for android has those keys in its special menus
[15:50] <dr_willis> it actually supports just swipeing left/right i think to get to differnt screen windows..  (not really used it a lot)
[15:50] <tonysan_> dr_willis: really, I'll play with it
[15:50] <dr_willis> I have seen android keybord alternatives that have alt-#'s and so forth also. :)
[15:52] <The_BROS> How can I use tomboy hotkeys? There is a problem.
[15:55] <ardithoxha> hey!
[15:55] <ardithoxha> anyone know to how to install ALSA?
[15:56] <GTRsdk> ikonia, the solid color (with transparency) is what I set the panel to use
[15:56] <cvam> I tried software-center.it says "segmentation fault". I've removed thunderbird from synaptic . But it's not complete. Details are http://paste.ubuntu.com/701647/ . after a reboot i can launch  software-center. no segmentation fault. How to complete the thunderbird removing process now ?
[15:56] <ardithoxha> anyone know to how to install ALSA?
[15:57] <dr_willis> ardithoxha:  alsa is installed by default..
[15:57] <dr_willis> !alsa
[15:57] <ardithoxha> no
[15:57] <ardithoxha> I type alsamixer and command not found
[15:57] <dr_willis> !find alsamixer
[15:57] <Gnea> ardithoxha: use apt-get
[15:57] <GTRsdk> ardithoxha, apt-cache search alsamixer
[15:58] <dr_willis> there ya go. install those packages as needed. :)
[15:58] <req^> In #winehq, the topic says that an install to 1.2.3 is recommended. I have 1.2.2 but aptitude says wine is the newest version. apt-cache search shows a wine 1.3 package. Would it be a good idea to install wine1.3? Why are they separate?
[15:58] <ardithoxha> what to write in terminal?
[15:58] <henningvis> where can i downlload the correct new kernel 3 for 11.10...man i am stuggling???tackpled too much for a newby!!
[15:58] <ardithoxha> give me all code
[15:58] <dr_willis> req^:  the repos are not always up to date. theres wine ppa's for newer versions
[15:58] <ardithoxha> can anyone come to my pc with teamviewer?
[15:58] <A_J> ardithoxha: what seems to be the problem
[15:59] <Gnea> !apt | ardithoxha
[15:59] <dr_willis> ardithoxha:  the package name is alsamixergui
[15:59] <ardithoxha> I cannot hear anything :( I tried anything
[15:59] <ardithoxha> pulse, alsa anything
[15:59] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install packagename
[15:59] <A_J> oh wait nvm, i thought you needed help with teamviewer
[15:59] <dr_willis> ardithoxha:  then why dident you state that earlier. :)
[15:59] <req^> dr_willis: might it cause problems if I install the latest version off-repo? I have no experience doing that.
[15:59] <Gnea> ardithoxha: try plugging the headphones into the right hole?
[15:59] <dr_willis> req^:  i use the winehq ppa's normally
[15:59] <ardithoxha> they are in right hole
[16:00] <ardithoxha> can anyone come to my pc with teamviewer?
[16:00] <dr_willis> ardithoxha:  speakers work but not heaphones?
[16:00] <req^> dr_willis: have you had any compatability issues or other problems using it?
[16:00] <Gnea> ardithoxha: I don't use teamviewer
[16:00] <ardithoxha> I just have speakers :(
[16:00] <cvam> I cant launch software-center.it says "segmentation fault".  Then I've removed thunderbird from synaptic  package manager . But an error has encountered. Details are http://paste.ubuntu.com/701647/ . after a reboot i can launch  software-center. no segmentation fault. How to complete the thunderbird removing process now ?
[16:00] <BarkingFish> is your onboard sound enabled in your BIOS settings, ardithoxha?
[16:00] <dr_willis> req^:  wine is one big 'work in progress'  theres always potentials for problems
[16:00] <req^> dr_willis: understood :)
[16:00] <dr_willis> bbl.
[16:02] <BarkingFish> Normally, unless you have something disabled somewhere, ubuntu's sound pretty much works out of the box.  The first things I'd check would be if you have mains powered speakers, check they're switched on, ardithoxha
[16:02] <tonysan_> dr_willis: found a shortcut key inside connectbot, thanks
[16:02] <BarkingFish> you'd be surprised how many people think they're powered by the PC
[16:02] <genClone> hi
[16:02] <genClone> one question
[16:03] <genClone> would be stable and clean to upgrade to the final version of ubuntu 11.10 if I install the current version right now?
[16:03] <genClone> and easy...
[16:03] <genClone> without mess dependencies and so on
[16:04] <ardithoxha> hey
[16:04] <genClone> or better just to wait some days?
[16:04] <ardithoxha> at gnome-alsamixer
[16:04] <ardithoxha> nothing
[16:04] <ardithoxha> its
[16:04] <ardithoxha> there no bars :(
[16:04] <FloodBot1> ardithoxha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <gkahla> anyone running jhbuild out there? trying to get GNOME 3.2 working, and there's an error I'm not getting beyond.
[16:04] <bastidrazor> genClone: wait for the release date. everything before that is considered beta and unstable
[16:04] <ardithoxha> cmon
[16:04] <sileni> hello
[16:05] <BarkingFish> I suggest you check your BIOS settings then, if ubuntu isn't finding a sound card, the chances are if it's one built into your motherboard, it's probably disabled in the bios, ardithoxha
[16:05] <ardithoxha> people, at alsa gnome mixer no bars showing :(
[16:05] <BarkingFish> we saw you the first time, ardithoxha - and we're trying to help you. Please be patient with us :)
[16:05] <sileni> I'm trying to timestamp the ping command with the -T option.. but the ping just sits there without sending packets
[16:05] <genClone> bastidrazor: yep, but I need to format and install now a new system, would you recommend to install the 11.04 instead of 11.10?
[16:05] <sileni> but when i try to ping without that option, the ping works just fine
[16:06] <sileni> am i missing something on what the option really does?
[16:06] <ardithoxha> yea but where to check that BarkingFish
[16:06] <bastidrazor> genClone: i have no opinion on it. its your call.
[16:06] <BarkingFish> you need to reboot your machine, and when you start, before ubuntu loads, you will need to press whichever key your PC says for System Setup, it's usually Escape, F1 or F2
[16:06] <sileni> any ping experts in here ? haha
[16:06] <bastidrazor> genClone: this close to release date most issues should be taken care of.
[16:07] <ardithoxha> omg, I know how to go in bios but how to go to that sound check or whatever was?
[16:07] <genClone> I suppose the actual version is very close to the final one.... and in case it isnt, the upgrade in a few days would involve only a few packets, isnt it?
[16:07] <BarkingFish> You just have to look for the right part of the BIOS where you enable and disable hardware, ardithoxha
[16:08] <BarkingFish> I can't tell you where that is, all BIOS's are different
[16:08] <BarkingFish> if you find your onboard sound disabled, enable it.
[16:08] <ardithoxha> oh I got It, do I have to check my Sound Card on BIOS
[16:08] <bastidrazor> genClone: you may want to get better advice in #ubuntu+1 for 11.10
[16:08] <ardithoxha> or something with sound
[16:08] <BarkingFish> Yes
[16:08] <ardithoxha> barkingfish
[16:08] <BarkingFish> You have to check that the sound card is enabled in the BIOS
[16:08] <ardithoxha> do you have any contact
[16:09] <genClone> bastidrazor: thanks :)
[16:09] <BarkingFish> Do I have any contact with what, ardithoxha? :)
[16:09] <ardithoxha> msn,facebook?!
[16:10] <BarkingFish> ardithoxha, I do, but I'm sorry, I only give tech advice in here, not by external support.  I do provide that service, but it's chargable
[16:10] <BarkingFish> Here, you get it for free. Be happy :)
[16:10] <ardithoxha> are you here every day?
[16:10] <BarkingFish> yes
[16:11] <bastidrazor> genClone: you're welcome.
[16:11] <sileni> BarkingFish: that was funny
[16:12] <BarkingFish> sileni, Funny maybe, but true.  I do in home PC service, but I charge for it.  Usually about £20 an hour
[16:12] <BarkingFish> Here, you get the help for nothing.
[16:12] <sileni> BarkingFish: no ardithoxha is funny
[16:13] <ardithoxha> barkingfish
[16:13] <BarkingFish> yes, ardithoxha?
[16:13] <ardithoxha> I remined now, I think my sound card and anything with sound in bios are correct and right but its with alsa I think!
[16:13] <xdr4kex> hi, i'm just trying to make windows recovery cd copy onto a partition and make it bootable, does anyone know how to do this?
[16:13] <Aspekt> ky)
[16:14] <bastidrazor> xdr4kex: ask in ##windows
[16:14] <BarkingFish> ardithoxha, I have to pass you on to the rest of the channel then, if your sound card is enabled, then it's a problem somewhere in your install. I wonder why it doesn't find your card.
[16:14] <xdr4kex> im trying to do this in ubuntu
[16:14] <xdr4kex> thats why im asking in ubuntu xD
[16:15] <ardithoxha> yea, problem its somewhere in install! I think at alsa :S
[16:15] <BarkingFish> could you just open a terminal for me, ardithoxha - and type  lspci | grep sound
[16:15] <ardithoxha> yea
[16:15] <Aspekt> hello
[16:15] <BarkingFish> i just want to see if your PC is finding your sound card, and simply not using it.
[16:16] <ardithoxha> omg, doesnt make anything :(
[16:16] <ardithoxha> :|
[16:16] <BarkingFish> ok, try the same command and replace sound with audio please
[16:16] <ardithoxha> nope :|
[16:17] <xdr4kex> anyone know how to copy a cd onto a partition and make it bootable?
[16:17] <BarkingFish> one more thing then, ardithoxha - do you know if your sound card is one that is plugged into a slot on your motherboard, or if it's built in to the board please?
[16:17] <dr_willis> xdr4kex:  depending on whats on the cd. You can use grub2 to boot ISO files.
[16:17] <ardithoxha> dont know :(
[16:17] <dr_willis> xdr4kex:  that maybe the easiest way.
[16:17] <ardithoxha> maybe on the board
[16:18] <xdr4kex> @Dr_willis really? that would be amazing i'll google it now
[16:18] <ardithoxha> barkingfish do you have teamviewer , if you dont install it and come to my pc
[16:18] <dr_willis> xdr4kex:  a cool feature of grub2.
[16:18] <ardithoxha> please
[16:18] <dr_willis> night all
[16:19] <BarkingFish> ardithoxha, there is an easy way to find out.  Look at the back of your PC where the sockets are - do your sound sockets appear with all the other sockets for mouse, keyboard and so on, or do they appear further down the back of the machine in a rectangle shaped slot?
[16:19] <ardithoxha> wait a minute barkingfish
[16:19] <BarkingFish> Unfortunately I can't do remote assistance, I'm on wifi with an unstable connection, and I can just about manage to run xchat without killing my wifi :)
[16:20] <BarkingFish> I wouldn't do remote assistance over a Public Wifi network anyway.
[16:20] <gigenieks> hello, I need help - how can I empty trash? It has kinda "locked" files from my USB flash which I deleted a few days ago, and now I can't anything to copy to that usb it gives me error about no free space. What should I do?
[16:21] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, unmount the usb flash, and run fsck on it to check the drive for errors
[16:22] <BarkingFish> sounds like something's gone wrong during the delete and it's corrupted the stick
[16:22] <lgstudio> freebox
[16:22] <amithkk> hi @rolandixor?
[16:23] <BarkingFish> lgstudio, Hi. Is there something we can help you with?
[16:23] <gigenieks> How can I unmount it and run that "fsck"? Can u give step-by-step solution what should I type in terminal?
[16:23] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, do you know what drive letter the flash drive is assigned to?
[16:24] <BarkingFish> If so, you just type sudo umount /dev/<whatever the drive is>  to unmount it
[16:24] <rolandixor> hi amithkk
[16:25] <gigenieks> I just pressed right mouse on it > eject volume
[16:25] <gigenieks> It seems unmounted.
[16:25] <BarkingFish> then, gigenieks - you would type fsck.vfat /dev/<whatever the drive is>
[16:26] <gigenieks> I don't know which drive it is under dev folder
[16:26] <gigenieks> there is many files
[16:26] <Arrnas> my wireless card stops working every time i reboot, theres an error in syslog that says : "/sys/devices/virtual/net/vmnet1: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring..." and i can't find a linux driver for my wireless card, any ideas?
[16:27] <BarkingFish> hm.  Unplug the drive, gigenieks - then plug it back in.  When you do this, type dmesg | tail  and it should show you a new usb device, and it should tell you the drive assignment
[16:28] <gigenieks> BarkingFish: sec will do that
[16:28] <BarkingFish> it'll probably look something like this in your dmesg, gigenieks
[16:28] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, [    3.670838] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
[16:29] <synackfin> how do I downgrade eclipse?
[16:29] <hmartins> hi
[16:30] <hmartins> I had a problem, i have my wired connected to the ethernet but, the connection are not reconized
[16:30] <hmartins> does anyone helps me?
[16:30] <ardithoxha> barkingfish
[16:30] <gigenieks> BarkingFish: my output is here ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/701785/
[16:30] <osse> There's a command line utility that mounts file systems the way they would have been mounted if it was done through Nautilus. What is the name of that?
[16:31] <g0bl1n> hi, are Ubuntu 9.04 repos still available ? Is it possible to install applications on those distros ?
[16:31] <BarkingFish> ardithoxha, I'll be with you in a moment :)
[16:31] <ardithoxha> ok
[16:31] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, if you look, the disk is assigned to /dev/sdb
[16:32] <BarkingFish> so you now need to unmount it again, then run fsck.vfat /dev/sdb
[16:32] <zeref> gonl1n, yes
[16:32] <auronandace> !eol | g0bl1n
[16:32] <zeref> but not supported anumore
[16:33] <BarkingFish> ok, ardithoxha - where were we? You were looking to see how your sound card was attached, right?
[16:33] <BarkingFish> Did you figure it out?
[16:34] <dan-mytt> hi there i have a problem with my keyboard on my laptop
[16:34] <ardithoxha> yea
[16:34] <ardithoxha> see
[16:34] <BarkingFish> !details dan-mytt
[16:34] <ardithoxha> I hit at terminal lspci and see what shows
[16:34] <dan-mytt> the keyboard works in the bios fine, but does not on grub or login screen
[16:34] <ardithoxha> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge 00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge 00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 Host Bridge 00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 I/O 
[16:34] <w30> I'm trying to run Unity and Ubuntu Classic /with Compiz. Whenever I switch from classic to unity then back to classic with compiz, Unity wrecks my ccsm config for the classic config. Ay way to prevent this?
[16:34] <Arran> Hi. I made an error: I put a second HD into the fstab, but wrongly, now the computer (Mint) won't start. I wnated to uncomment the new line in the fstab via sudo nano /etc/fstab. However the file is only readable. Can you help?
[16:34] <ardithoxha> I think not full
[16:35] <gigenieks> BarkingFish here is my output from terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/701790/
[16:35] <BarkingFish> That's a very long list, ardithoxha - next time, you can paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com :)
[16:35] <dan-mytt> the problem occur all by it's self
[16:35] <ardithoxha> ok
[16:35] <ardithoxha> wait
[16:35] <dan-mytt> any ideas barking fish
[16:35] <BarkingFish> It doesn't look like your card is there,  did you see the back of the machine, ardithoxha - where are your sound sockets?
[16:35] <ardithoxha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/701795/
[16:36] <BarkingFish> dan-mytt, I'm pretty busy at the moment, maybe someone else could assist you :)
[16:36] <BarkingFish> I'll be free soon.
[16:36] <Layke> Is there anything like dreamweaver for Linux? I'm just looking to quickly knock up some tables for an ebay auction bulk lot.
[16:36] <g0bl1n> so zeref if one does an apt-get install... on 9.04, it will install ok, right ?
[16:36] <DesertFoxNight> How do I reset the network settings for Ubuntu Server? I have tried to configured the network settings of the server, but with no avail.
[16:36] <zeref> gobl1n, yes
[16:36] <cutiyar> i have created DSL connection and worked great , but after restarting now when i connect to the DSL it ask me DSL authentication but the box shows nothing . u can see the box here http://postimage.org/image/1h49cjryc/
[16:37] <BarkingFish> ardithoxha, - I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass you on...  I don't know anything about your sound card or its drivers, I think they're proprietary...
[16:37] <jkeats> i'm having trouble adding swap to fstab
[16:37] <jkeats> swapon is saying no such file or directory
[16:37] <ardithoxha> what this means ?
[16:37] <BarkingFish> anyone who can help ardithoxha - please check the paste they posted, sound card is listed here: 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[16:37] <jkeats> /dev/sdg is a swap volume
[16:38] <BarkingFish> ardithoxha, I don't think they're drivers that are ones we include with the basic setup for ubuntu.
[16:38] <jkeats> /dev/sdg                                        swap            swap    defaults        0       0
[16:38] <BarkingFish> I've got to go for a moment, those I'm helping, I'll be back in a few minutes
[16:38] <w30> Arran, try saving the fstab to a home directory then sudo cat home/fstab > /etc/fstab
[16:38] <ardithoxha> hey, yesterday
[16:38] <jkeats> swapon: /dev/sdg: Invalid argument
[16:38] <ardithoxha> my sound worked
[16:38] <gigenieks> Barkingfish: i get some useful info i think here is output from terminal CHECK this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/701796/ <----
[16:38] <ardithoxha> but something work with ALSA
[16:39] <bastidrazor> jkeats: you need a number following sdg.. for example sdg1
[16:39] <auronandace> jkeats: you have a whole disk devoted to swap?
[16:39] <BarkingFish> one moment all, i'll be back shortly -
[16:39] <jkeats> yeah i do, a whole disk
[16:39] <bastidrazor> Kjekken: it still has to have a partition number.
[16:39] <jkeats> it's a slice off a cloud
[16:39] <auronandace> jkeats: that is a collosal waste
[16:40] <jkeats> oh get off it, i just carved off 16gb of disk for swap from the cloud
[16:40] <gigenieks> BarkingFish: ok :)
[16:40] <jkeats> the machine doesn't even "exist"
[16:40] <jkeats> so by your test, the whole thing is a waste. all its disks are slices off disks that are slices off other disks
[16:41] <jkeats> i'd just like to know why swapon doesn't like that argument in fstab
[16:41] <bastidrazor> jkeats: /dev/sdg needs a partition number.
[16:41] <jkeats> it doesn't.
[16:42] <ardithoxha> can someone
[16:42] <ardithoxha> help me with my sound card?
[16:42] <ardithoxha> and sound problems?!
[16:42] <w30> Arran, next time cp fstab fstab.orig then you can just cat fstab.orig > fstab. Lots easier than editing with vi or nano
[16:42] <bastidrazor> jkeats: so you haven't formatted the disk as swap? if not it won't work.
[16:42] <KM0201> !sound > ardithoxha
[16:42] <bastidrazor> !wap > jkeats : read this, it'll explain a few things
[16:42] <dan-mytt> can anyone help i have a laptop keyboard problem!! the keyboard works fine in the bios!! But doesn't not work in grub or the login screen. this fault suddenly happened with out me doing anything.
[16:42] <bastidrazor> !swap | jkeats
[16:42] <jkeats> i have formatted all of /dev/sdg as swap. the entire disk.
[16:43] <jkeats> in unix, everything is a file.
[16:43] <jkeats> i could have a 3gb file on disk, and swapon that file, and it wouldn't have to have a "partition" for it to work.
[16:43] <bastidrazor> jkeats: because a swap file is NOT a swap partition.
[16:43] <jkeats> i know how swap works, thank you very much. i've been using unix for twenty years.
[16:44] <saulotoledo> Hello! I'm with gnome 3.2. I cant disable my touchpad in my netbook, synclient TouchpadOff=0 command do not works, somebody know why?
[16:44] <jkeats> i'm trying to figure out what the syntax error is.
[16:44] <ardithoxha> ubottu
[16:44] <ardithoxha> here is my pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/701795/
[16:44] <bastidrazor> jkeats: i already told you. you need a number following /sdg
[16:44] <clvx> Anyone who can help?, Banshee has no sound and the progress bar moves really fast when I play a song. Also, no sound in youtube or watching videos on totem.
 Thanks a lot. Weill be back
[16:45] <clvx> but, I have sound if I change sessions.
[16:45] <bastidrazor> jkeats: sudo fdisk -l   whats the /dev/sdg listed as
[16:45] <jkeats> Disk /dev/sdg: 2147 MB, 2147483648 bytes
[16:46] <bastidrazor> jkeats: then the disk is not partitioned.
[16:47] <jkeats> but it doesn't need to be partitioned to use swap. what does swap care about parititioning? it is just paging memory out to it.
[16:47] <ardithoxha> !sound
[16:47] <jkeats> any more than a file needs to be partitioned when swap writes to it. disks are files.
[16:47] <ardithoxha> !mp3
[16:47] <cutiyar> i have created DSL connection and worked great , but after restarting now when i connect to the DSL it ask me DSL authentication but the box shows nothing . u can see the box here http://postimage.org/image/1h49cjryc/
[16:48] <bastidrazor> jkeats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F  ..read that. it clearly states you need to partition the drive as a swap partition.
[16:49] <jkeats> that's hokey. you know, this worked on natty yesterday.
[16:49] <jkeats> it's not working on lts, hence why i'm here.
[16:49] <dan-mytt> can anyone help i have a laptop keyboard problem!! the keyboard works fine in the bios!! But doesn't not work in grub or the login screen. this fault suddenly happened with out me doing anything.
[16:50] <DesertFoxNight> How do I reset the network settings for Ubuntu Server? I have tried to configured the network settings of the server, but with no avail.
[16:50] <dan-mytt> can anyone help i have a laptop keyboard problem!! the keyboard works fine in the bios!! But doesn't not work in grub or the login screen. this fault suddenly happened with out me doing anything.
[16:51] <grendal-prime> DesertFoxNight, get rid of network manager do it all in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[16:51] <grendal-prime> if you are using the graphical interface get use to the idea that ...that will be a sucky way to run a server.
[16:52] <dan-mytt> can anyone help i have a laptop keyboard problem!! the keyboard works fine in the bios!! But doesn't not work in grub or the login screen. this fault suddenly happened with out me doing anything.
[16:52] <grendal-prime> speaking of crap and interfaces...this box im looking at has a ....gnome window effect that drives me nuts.  Everytime i get a dialog box, if i move my pointer off of it..it faids off.
[16:52] <theadmin> grendal-prime: That doesn't sound normal
[16:52] <grendal-prime> i cant see it and then when i move my moust back over it it reappears...what the hell is that and how do i disable it?
[16:53] <grendal-prime> it is a multi screen display..
[16:53] <grendal-prime> hmmm
[16:53] <grendal-prime> some setting in compize i think
[16:54] <sipior> jkeats: sorry, i missed something. what's the exact error that gets reported when you try "sudo swapon /dev/sdg"?
[16:55] <jkeats> ok bastidrazor i did as you asked and partitioned it and it still complains
[16:55] <jkeats> swapon: /dev/sdg2: Invalid argument
[16:55] <dan-mytt> can anyone help i have a laptop keyboard problem!! the keyboard works fine in the bios!! But doesn't not work in grub or the login screen. this fault suddenly happened with out me doing anything.
[16:55] <sipior> jkeats: get anything more if you supply the -v switch?
[16:55] <jkeats> that's why i say swapon -a or swapon /dev/sdg2
[16:55] <theadmin> sdG? How many hard drives do you have!?
[16:55] <bastidrazor> jkeats: /dev/sdg2 none swap sw 0 0
[16:55] <jkeats> nothing more useful
[16:56] <jkeats> bastidrazor: still the same
[16:56] <sipior> jkeats: this isn't a physical disk?
[16:57] <jkeats> it's a physical disk as much as the machine knows it is
[16:57] <jkeats> it's a machine in the amazon cloud
[16:57] <sipior> jkeats: how is the volume mounted in the machine?
[16:57] <jkeats> it's swap, it isn't mounted :p
[16:57] <sipior> jkeats: you know what i mean.
[16:58] <jkeats> well it's in /etc/fstab
[16:58] <jkeats> but before i put it in /etc/fstab i just said swapon /dev/sdg
[16:58] <jkeats> and then after all the complaining about it needing to be formatted, i said swapon /dev/sdg2
[16:58] <gigenieks> OK, seems like BarkingFish will not be here soon, who can help me fix my issue with USB flash and trash being with files from usb which I cannot delete??
[16:58] <sipior> jkeats: what network transport mechanism? "Swap over NFS may not work.", says the swapon man page.
[16:58] <jkeats> you clearly don't understand AWS
[16:59] <jkeats> the machine thinks it's physically connected.
[16:59] <jkeats> that's what "sd" means in the volume name
[16:59] <BarkingFish> I'm sorry, gigenieks - I was called away to the phone.
[16:59] <sipior> jkeats: i don't. that's why i'm asking.
[16:59] <jkeats> to the machine, these are scsi-attached disks.
[17:00] <gigenieks> BarkingFish: my last and useful output from terminal --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/701796/
[17:02] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, you gave the wrong command.
[17:02] <BarkingFish> you gave sudo fsck /dev/sdb - it should be sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdb
[17:03] <gigenieks> I did that command too
[17:03] <gigenieks> sec will do that
[17:04] <BarkingFish> your drive is partitioned, so if /dev/sdb doesn't work, try /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 separately
[17:04] <heikki_> matovako
[17:05] <BarkingFish> !fi | heikki_
[17:05] <gigenieks> lol terminal is not responding
[17:05] <daavis> hey! i downloaded gnome shell. Now.. how to set it up so it's always on startup?
[17:06] <gigenieks> cant close or type command
[17:06] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, i don't know if this works in ubuntu, I know it does in kubuntu... Try Ctrl, Alt, Escape - usually that activates a kill window thing for your mouse
[17:07] <BarkingFish> Ours turns the cursor to a skull & crossbones
[17:07] <theadmin> BarkingFish: That's a KDE thing
[17:07] <theadmin> BarkingFish: Well, not xkill itself, just the shortcut
[17:08] <BarkingFish> theadmin, drat. Is there a gnome shortcut?
[17:08] <theadmin> BarkingFish: None I know of
[17:08] <BarkingFish> myxzptlk!
[17:08] <theadmin> BarkingFish: Alt+f2, "xkill", Enter?
[17:08] <BarkingFish> good point
[17:09] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, try what theadmin just posted
[17:09] <BarkingFish> you may be able to kill the hung terminal that way, and simply open a fresh one
[17:09] <sileni> BarkingFish: hey
[17:09] <sileni> BarkingFish: i would like your help
[17:09] <gigenieks> BarkingFish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/701821/
[17:10] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, that is plain weird.
[17:10] <sileni> BarkingFish: what would be the best way to timestamp the replies from ping?
[17:10] <BarkingFish> sileni, ping -t <location>
[17:11] <sileni> BarkingFish: doesn't work
[17:11] <sileni> BarkingFish: the -T is the option for timestamp but for some reaon when i do ping -T tsonly <location>
[17:11] <sileni> BarkingFish: it doesn't ping
[17:11] <sileni> BarkingFish: just sits there
[17:11] <BarkingFish> sileni, are you behind a firewall preventing incoming icmp?
[17:12] <sileni> BarkingFish: hmm shouldn't be, cause i can ping it normally with `ping <location>`
[17:12] <sileni> BarkingFish: and i can get the replies if i do that
[17:12] <gigenieks> Da** I need that USB to work properly so I can finishm my homework for tomorrow in university. Seems like this thing will use all my night...
[17:12] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, one sec.
[17:13] <gigenieks> Barkingfish: plz give ur suggestions in paste.ubuntu because I have to meet friend now and will be afk at least 1h - 1.5h
[17:13] <BarkingFish> Guys, bit of an urgent hand needed for gigenieks - we've unmounted his usb stick at /dev/sdb, gone to run fsck.vfat over it, and it's not opening the disk, stating there is no such volume.
[17:14] <fritsch> BarkingFish: what was the output of fdisk -l /dev/sdb ?
[17:14] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, it's not possible to help you when you're not here, since we'd need to get you to try stuff out as it's done
[17:14] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, before you go, can you just try what fritsch suggested please?
[17:14] <DesertFoxNight> grendal-prime, how do I remove network manager using the terminal?
[17:14] <BarkingFish> it will give us some ideas
[17:15] <theadmin> DesertFoxNight: apt-get remove networkmanager or somesuch
[17:15] <gigenieks> output: "Cannot open /dev/sdb"
[17:15] <BarkingFish> fritsch, if it helps, I saw the dmesg output from when he attached the usb disk, it's definitely sdb
[17:16] <fritsch> gigenieks: you look at the wrong device
[17:16] <fritsch> BarkingFish: did you have ssh access?
[17:16] <BarkingFish> fritsch, no
[17:16] <DesertFoxNight> When I type that command, I get "Unable to locate package networkmanager"
[17:17] <BarkingFish> he did the dmesg output after plugging the disk in, and this is what we saw fritsch - http://paste.ubuntu.com/701785/
[17:17] <fritsch> DesertFoxNight: it is network-manager
[17:17] <jkeats> ahem
[17:17] <jkeats> ubuntu@ip-10-204-5-232:/home/alex$ sudo swapon /dev/xvds
[17:17] <jkeats> ubuntu@ip-10-204-5-232:/home/alex$
[17:17] <Okidor78> bonjour
[17:17] <BarkingFish> fritsch, unless I've misinterpreted the dmesg, that shows sdb as being attached with 2 partitions, sdb1 and sdb2
[17:18] <BarkingFish> !fr | Okidor78
[17:18] <fritsch> BarkingFish: i think he unmounted the drive and plugged it off
[17:19] <gigenieks> OK I will be back in an hour or 2, I hope we will figure it out.
[17:19] <DesertFoxNight> Ok, now I get a message that reads: "Virtual packages like 'network-manager' can't be removed"
[17:19] <gigenieks> :(
[17:19] <one23> hey. does anyone know how i can issue commands throgh ssh that makes the host do something. like play a movie in vlc?
[17:19] <DesertFoxNight> Alsom I'm runnin Ubuntu Server on VirtualBox.
[17:19] <BarkingFish> fritsch - i told him only to unmount it, and then to run sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdb to it
[17:19] <BarkingFish> I gave him no instruction to unplug it, only to umount
[17:19] <fritsch> BarkingFish: sdb is the raw device, this would not make sense
[17:19] <fritsch> BarkingFish: if there are partitions on it
[17:20] <fritsch> BarkingFish: we talk about gigenieks <- right?
[17:20] <BarkingFish> yeah, I changed it to sdb1 and sdb2 after reading the dmesh a second time
[17:20] <fritsch> gigenieks: please unplug your drive and replug it
[17:20] <BarkingFish> *dmesg
[17:20] <fritsch> gigenieks: paste the dmesg output to a pastebin
[17:20] <BarkingFish> he can't now, he's to go out.  We will try again later :)
[17:20] <fritsch> BarkingFish: oki
[17:21] <Reallycool> I've noticed that recently Compiz has been having trouble understanding how long a millisecond is. It seems as if instead of "milliseconds" it's going by number of frames
[17:21] <BarkingFish> gigenieks, we will speak again later, I have to leave also for a while.  I will come back in about 1.5 - 2.0 hours
[17:21] <BarkingFish> See you all later
[17:21] <The_BROS> How to change settings in thunderbird that reply massage would be on top of reply?
[17:22] <tabakhase> The_BROS "click on settings"?
[17:23] <The_BROS> tabakhase: and then?
[17:23] <Plugh> The_BROS: If you right click a tool bar area you should have an option that says "Customize...".
[17:24] <tabakhase> The_BROS shame on me... there is the "reply as inline or attachment", wired....
[17:25] <The_BROS> Plugh: No. I mean that my answer would be on the top of the massage
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS: it's in Edit, Account settings, Comositing & addressing
[17:25] <Plugh> A lot of people don't like top posting of replies
[17:25] <ardithoxha> do anyone know to install ALSA?
[17:26] <selene> hola
[17:26] <selene> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:26] <theadmin> !es | selene
[17:26] <The_BROS> MonkeyDust: Oh. I C. Thanx a lot
[17:28] <one23> how can i make X on my host computer do something from ssh? i want to tell my computer to play something in vlc from a remote computer. anyone?
[17:28] <theadmin> one23: Try cvlc first
[17:28] <theadmin> one23: If that doesn't work out for you, well, there is always ssh X forwarding, read up on that
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> One23: connect with: ssh -X user@host
[17:29] <BluesKaj> one23,  ssh-X user@remoteIP
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> One23: any music you play will come out of the server in any app
[17:29] <A_J> ActionParsnip: \o/ hai dude
[17:29] <BluesKaj> one23, correction ssh -X
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> A_j: yo yo yo
[17:30] <ardithoxha> do anyone know to install ALSA?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> yup ActionParsnip
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> One23: do you use an android phone
[17:30] <one23> theadmin: thanks for that. i want to play a video, so cvlc won't work for me. it displays ascii art, but will check out these other tips
[17:31] <Plugh> ardithoxha: Are you trying to install it or are you asking for help configuring it?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> ardithoxha: look at the official sound troubleshooting procedure doc, it has a big command to do it
[17:31] <one23> ActionParsnip: yes, that is the goal eventually. but right now i am just on another computer
[17:32] <BluesKaj> one23, I've heard of ppl streaming from the remote to local with vlc, over ssh
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> One23: dude install vlc remote on your phone and enable the http interface. You will need to edit you .hosts file to allow you networks subnet. You can then control it using your phone
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> One23: works amazingly
[17:33] <one23> wow. sounds cool. will check that ouy
[17:35] <dan-mytt> can anyone help i have a laptop keyboard problem!! the keyboard works fine in the bios!! But doesn't not work in grub or the login screen. this fault suddenly happened with out me doing anything.
[17:35] <theadmin> dan-mytt: Do you have an option for "Legacy USB support" in BIOS? Try toggling that.
[17:35] <one23> ActionParsnip: this is kind of what i wanted to program myself. haha
[17:36] <AndChat|> Damn blackspots. This is actionParsnip
[17:36] <fabrizio_> ciao
[17:37] <lucidguy> Need advice purchasing new power supply.  AMD Atholon dual core system with 4GB ram, 5 sata hard drives, PCIe Video Nvidia, DVDburner....  Will a 500W system be enough.
[17:37] <andyvy> 5 sata HDs?
[17:37] <andyvy> which AMD?
[17:37] <AndChat|> One23: http://maketecheasier.com/remote-control-vlc-with-android-phone/2010/08/06
[17:38] <AndChat|> lucidguy: ask in ##hardware this is ubuntu su
[17:38] <AndChat|> Support
[17:38] <AndChat|> One23: if you ru
[17:40] <AndChat|> One23: run:  sudo find / | grep vlc | grep host     you'll see the file to edit. By default the only allowed computer to access the web ui is localhost
[17:40] <Plugh> lucidguy: There are lots of different nVidia cards out there. The specs for the one you want will state what the minimum specs are for the power supply. Check the specs on the SATA drives to make sure the power supply you are thinking of getting can supply the currents required for the 5 drives and video card.
[17:41] <mattalexx> Is there a screenshot tool or active keyboard command that will allow me to select a rectangle?
[17:41] <theadmin> mattalexx: Quite a few, I beleive the standard GNOME screenshooter does that
[17:41] <mattalexx> theadmin, Is that tool being used in Ubuntu Natty?
[17:41] <mattalexx> Because I can't seem to find the right keyboard shortcut.
[17:42] <one23> AndChat|: thanks. i think i got this.
[17:42] <AndChat|> mattalexx: install imagemagick   then in a terminal run:  sleep 10; import ~/output.jpg     the sleep 10 gives 10 seconds to arrange the screen
[17:42] <theadmin> mattalexx: I have no idea, in GNOME it used to be called when you hit Printscreen
[17:42] <AndChat|> mattalexx: its how i do it
[17:44] <mattalexx> AndChat|, At what time can I define the area to crop to?
[17:44] <mattalexx> ... other than using post-processing
[17:44] <w30> lucidguy, depends on price and your wallet. You can always keep your power supply and put it in your next machine (swap). A larger one keeps obsolescence  away until form factor changes
[17:44] <fabrizio_> 1
[17:44] <AndChat|> Afaik, printscrn does the whole shebang, there may be shift or alt you can press to change how it acts but I've always used imagemagick
[17:45] <AndChat|> mattalexx: the cursor will change and you can draw your rectangle
[17:45] <glitchd> hey im having a problem when booting ubuntu 10.04
[17:46] <lucidguy> The main reason why I'm replacing is because the system seems to randomly restart lately...  I'm guessing its powersupply.
[17:46] <andyvy> glitchd: details?
[17:46] <glitchd> there seems to be a longer than normal boot post and it takes around 2-5 mins to fully boot
[17:46] <AndChat|> lucidguy: have you tested the ram?
[17:47] <glitchd> andyvy, i should also add, that yesterday i somehow or another removed my graphics driver, so i had to go thru about a 3-4 hr process to figure out how to get it back, and that would include installing vesa drivers to use while i got the right vid driver
[17:47] <BenB> I just got a new computer (AMD A8-3850 with GPU on CPU) and would like to continue to use 10.04 LTS. how do I use a new graphics driver (kernel, xorg, mesa) in 10.04?
[17:48] <AndChat|> glitchd: when you get booted, run: dmesg | less      and look for big gaps in time on the left. Use cursors to scroll and q to exit
[17:48] <fabrizio_> 2
[17:48] <glitchd> AndChat|, ill run it right now since i just booted and ill reply the response, ill probably have to use pastebin tho
[17:48] <AndChat|> Benb:could try the xorg edgers update ppa
[17:48] <BenB> AndChat|: url?
[17:49] <AndChat|> Benb: just websearch dude. My web is slow and you'll find it easily before my page loads
[17:49] <AndChat|> Be
[17:50] <glitchd> AndChat|, is there a way to get it to save it to a file? only because it wont let me scroll all the output
[17:50] <deadpool> hey yesterday i updated my eclipse but it somehow messed it up , is there a way I can uninstall those updates from late last night?
[17:50] <AndChat|> Benb: instead of relying purely on people to feed you Urls, you will be more autonomous and learn if you search using direction given
[17:51] <AndChat|> Benb: it frees people up to help others
[17:51] <oCean> AndChat|: don't just suggest to 'websearch' or 'google' in our channels
[17:51] <grendal-prime> soory got sidtracked with reall world stuff... you know like outside   (where the pizzaman lives)
[17:51] <AndChat|> Ocean: i have told him exactly what is needed. It will be easily found
[17:52] <oCean> AndChat|: but it's not welcome here. Don't do it again please
[17:52] <grendal-prime> anyway who wanted to know how to remove network-manager.
[17:52] <Dovid> what does this error mean? root@vms2:/etc# /etc/init.d/sendmail start
[17:52] <Dovid> .: 14: Can't open /etc/init.d/functions
[17:53] <compdoc> is there a file /etc/init.d/functions ?
[17:53] <hirantha> y
[17:53] <grendal-prime> ocean
[17:53] <jrib> Dovid: this is probably unrelated but you should use the « service » command instead of calling that script directly
[17:53] <grendal-prime> sorry...
[17:53] <grendal-prime> not ocean... AndChat|
[17:53] <grendal-prime> http://lmgtfy.com/
[17:53] <glitchd> is there anyway to export the output of dmesg | less to a txt file of anykind or a file in general?
[17:53] <AndChat|> Ocean: fine but it will take a long time. If you give people some direction they can find out stuff better. If you just give links they will never learn, meaning more support is needed by volunteers
[17:54] <oCean> grendal-prime: that too, lmgtfy is not welcome here
[17:54] <theadmin> glitchd: dmesg | tail somefile
[17:54] <grendal-prime> good altrenative..dang...
[17:54] <oCean> AndChat|: let me explain it this way: don't do it again
[17:54] <grendal-prime> Ok i understand
[17:54] <theadmin> glitchd: Or, simply, "dmesg > somefile"
[17:54] <theadmin> Err not tail... What was it?
[17:54] <theadmin> tee, there
[17:54] <Dovid> jrib: I get the same error: .: 14: Can't open /etc/init.d/functions
[17:54] <AndChat|> Ocean: do you see my point though?
[17:54] <theadmin> glitchd: dmesg | tee somefile
[17:54] <jrib> Dovid: pastebin the script
[17:55] <AndChat|> Ocean: i see your point
[17:55] <ubuntu_> o co tu chodzi?
[17:55] <oCean> AndChat|: No, and not about to discuss channel rules here. You can use #ubuntu-ops if you want to
[17:55] <qin> !pl | ubuntu_
[17:55] <glitchd> theadmin, thank you
[17:55] <Dovid> jrib: http://pastebin.com/akfHxCvs
[17:56] <Dovid> hrib: ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/functions: No such file or directory
[17:56] <AndChat|> Ocean: its the whole teach a man to fish idea. I'll fetch the user a link
[17:57] <oiyeu> hi
[17:57] <sileni> hey guys
[17:57] <oiyeu> anyone there ?
[17:57] <sileni> is there anyway to just prepend the time to replies from ping
[17:57] <ikonia> ?
[17:57] <sileni> i want to get ping with timestamp but for some reason the pint -T <location> doesn't work
[17:57] <sileni> ping*
[17:58] <sileni> it transmits the packets but no reply is received... but ping <location> works fine
[17:58] <jrib> Dovid: does /etc/init.d/functions exist?
[17:58] <Dovid> jrib: See my last. no it does not
[17:58] <jrib> Dovid: find out what should provide that :)  (use apt-file)
[17:59] <ikonia> sileni: did you read any of the man page ?
[17:59] <ikonia> sileni: the man page clearly explains how to use -T
[17:59] <mattalexx> AndChat|, FYI, After some research, I installed ccsm, enabled the Screeshot feature in Compiz, and only then did the <Super>+drag work.
[18:00] <mattalexx> AndChat|, I do appreciate the help.
[18:00] <AndChat|> BenB: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[18:00] <BenB> AndChat|: thanks, but I already got it when I said "yes, thanks"
[18:00] <misse_> Hi, I've got a 10.04.3 LTS server which hags after "running script init-bottom: done". I've booted it with init=/bin/bash, I've upgraded it with apt, purged nfs-common.. but it still hangs.. what more can I do? where can I look?
[18:01] <BenB> AndChat|: thanks anyway
[18:01] <AndChat|> Benb: sorry. Was using my slow browser to get the link. So didn't see you. Glad you found it using the direction i gave
[18:02] <AndChat|> mattalexx: cool. I don't use compiz so wasn't aware of the feature
[18:03] <Paulus__> Hello all beautiful Ubuntu users :)
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> don't insult me: i'm ugly
[18:03] <Guiri> Having some trouble with a laptop after failing to upgrade python. Won't load X properly. Can someone take a look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/701849/
[18:04] <Paulus__> I have two problems at the monent :(
[18:04] <Pici> Guiri: How were you trying to 'upgrade python'?
[18:04] <__inport__> I have a server, running 10.10, and webmin fails to start at boot on it.
[18:04] <AndChat|> Ocean: ill nip into the ops channel later
[18:04] <Paulus__> I am sure you are beautiful on the inside Monkey Dust
[18:04] <__inport__> How can I set this?
[18:04] <AndChat|> !webmin
[18:05] <__inport__> ah
[18:05] <Guiri> Apparently they used apt-get. Helping a friend
[18:05] <__inport__> What would be a better alternative?
[18:05] <__inport__> (that is free)
[18:05] <AndChat|> !ebox
[18:05] <grendal-prime> Paulus__, ya dude...like "I got scars and bums and bruses..and something here that ozzes, and lets not even mention my complexion..but dispite my extra toes and my goiter and my nose...id really like to make a love connection!!"
[18:05] <Dovid> jrib: should I just "scp it over" from a CentOs system ore re-install sendmail /
[18:06] <jrib> Dovid: no.  How did you install sendmail?
[18:06] <grendal-prime> Quoted from "I've got a dream" from Tangled  (the disney file)
[18:06] <Paulus__> :)
[18:06] <grendal-prime> my 7 year old sone sings that song..its hilariouse
[18:06] <grendal-prime> son that is
[18:07] <Paulus__> Well I am glad that I have never heard it until now :)
[18:07] <auronandace> !ot | grendal-prime
[18:08] <Paulus__> So I have a few problems with my 11.04 ubuntu install
[18:08] <__inport__> AndChat|, thanks
[18:08] <Paulus__> the first is that for some reason firefox will not load the email inbox of my university and opera does
[18:08] <AndChat|> __inport__: no worries
[18:08] <BenB> AndChat|: don't I need a new kernel, too, for the KMS, if I want support for the new GPU?
[18:08] <Paulus__> and firefox 7 is trying to install from an untrusted repository
[18:08] <BenB> AndChat|: where do I get this from?
[18:08] <Paulus__> so I am crying slightly
[18:09] <touchpad> Hello, I'm running 11.04 on a netbook (hp pavilion dm1). It has a touchpad with 2 buttons recognized as "SynPS/2Synaptics Touchpad" in the Parameters.I would like to use both buttons but they both act as a left button. Ideas?
[18:09] <GirlyGirl> Can anyone help me Wifi reception is less on Ubuntu than Windows Xp
[18:09] <AndChat|> Paulus__: does it work ok as another (new) user
[18:09] <touchpad> And other question: I have 11.04 on an usb key (created with usb-creator-gtk). I use it with a persistant data space. Are there ways to speedup the boot/shutdown process? And how canI get rid of the initial screen to select langage and chose to try xubuntu or install it? (I always select "french" and then "try without installing")
[18:09] <bastidrazor> Paulus__: firefox 7 isn't in 11.04, yet.
[18:09] <Paulus__> Let me check that AncChat :)
[18:09] <D_Russ> so is there any free softaware similar to camtasia?
[18:10] <auronandace> !info firefox
[18:10] <AndChat|> Benb: there is a kernel ppa but i would not advise using it as it is not supported here.
[18:10] <BenB> AndChat|: well, all I want is that my system continues to run with my new computer.
[18:10] <bastidrazor> it has been released. good deal.
[18:10] <BenB> AndChat|: at the moment, 10.04 doesn't work, I am in VESA mode.
[18:10] <BenB> AndChat|: please tell me the supported way to get new drivers.
[18:11] <AndChat|> touchpad: you may be able to use remastersys to modify the iso. You could instead install the OS to the USB and treat it like a regular drive
[18:12] <AndChat|> Benb: install a later release is all i can advise
[18:12] <airdem> hello, can you help me get a nvidia gtx 460 work an ubuntu 10.10
[18:12] <AndChat|> !nvidia | airdem
[18:12] <BenB> AndChat|: 10.04 *is* the latest LTS release. I want to use LTS, with a current computer. there must be some supported way to do that.
[18:13] <TheLawnmowerMan> I've installed Ubuntu on my PC & everything is going great and working except I get no sound whatsoever.  The sound is enabled in the BIOS.  It's an onboard audio and haven't had problems with this motherboard prior to installing Ubuntu.  I've followed the advice listed on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting.  I can get to step six but that is where I get stuck.
[18:13] <SadlyMistaken> Excuse me but when i Record some CD with 'Brasero'... People can't see the files into the cd in another OS like 'Window$' or 'OS'... what can i do?
[18:13] <glitchd> BenB, i would think to just use update manager..?
[18:13] <AndChat|> Benb: not that i know of, maybe others can advise
[18:13] <auronandace> BenB: wait till 12.04
[18:13] <BenB> auronandace: not funny
[18:13] <oiyeu> hello there
[18:13] <BenB> glitchd: and I do what there?
[18:14] <TheLawnmowerMan> When I run "lspci -v | grep "Audio device"" I get no response.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
[18:14] <AndChat|> Sadly: tried a different burning app, like xfburn?
[18:14] <Paulus__> @ AndChat .. A new user had no problems logging in
[18:14] <Dovid> jrib: I did not. was installed b4 i was managing the box
[18:14] <compdoc> TheLawnmowerMan, try 'audio' or 'Audio'
[18:14] <compdoc> keep it simple
[18:14] <Paulus__> so is it just best for me to create a new user? and Migrate some of my settings over?
[18:15] <SadlyMistaken> AndChat xfburn? do you think these will be the solution? xfburn is into the synaptic?
[18:15] <D_Russ> looking for a good (read free) screen recorder for ubuntu. any suggestions
[18:15] <TheLawnmowerMan> compdoc: no results with 'audio' or 'Audio'
[18:15] <SadlyMistaken> AndChat|: xfburn? do you think these will be the solution? xfburn is into the synaptic?
[18:15] <glitchd> BenB, thats where it would list if there was an update for anything, that or System->Admin->Hardware Drivers
[18:15] <jrib> Dovid: hmm, see if the sendmail package is installed
[18:16] <compdoc> TheLawnmowerMan, then its possible that its using the device name
[18:16] <oiyeu> i got list of command on a file with number for each command one number for example : 1.  ls -l 2. cat /etc/network/interface etc .... now what i want to do is from that file i want to call each number like this !1 for calling command 1 !2 for calling command 2 etc ....
[18:16] <compdoc> try lspci -v and look through it
[18:16] <oiyeu> what i have to do ? to make that one possible ?
[18:16] <tinfury> Waddup all?
[18:16] <BenB> glitchd: I am already up-to-date
[18:16] <TheLawnmowerMan> checking now
[18:16] <Pici> oiyeu: Thats probably a better question for #bash
[18:17] <airdem> usb flash gets automountet into /media right?
[18:17] <glitchd> BenB, then what exactly was your question again?..sry
[18:17] <TheLawnmowerMan> I see it
[18:17] <oiyeu> ok thanks Pici
[18:17] <TheLawnmowerMan> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[18:17] <TheLawnmowerMan> 	Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems K8M800-M2 (V2.0) onboard audio
[18:17] <TheLawnmowerMan> 	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 22
[18:17] <TheLawnmowerMan> 	I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
[18:17] <TheLawnmowerMan> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[18:17] <FloodBot1> TheLawnmowerMan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:17] <TheLawnmowerMan> 	Kernel driver in use: VIA 82xx Audio
[18:17] <auronandace> !paste | TheLawnmowerMan
[18:18] <BenB> glitchd: I want to use 10.04 LTS with my new computer, with AMD A8-3850 and oncpu-graphics. xorg as-is doesn't support that new "graphics card", and uses VESA mode, while I have 2 monitors with 1920x1200 each and need to use them.
[18:18] <grendal-prime> I apologize for wandering from the path...but..well Im a bad man what can i say.... ok back on topic...anyone familiar with this windo fade out option that is soooo irritating?
[18:19] <AndChat|> Paulus__: ok so we now know it is your settings and not the browser itself. If you rename ~/.mozilla  then rerun the browser, you will get the same result as your first user, you can copy you bookmarks (if you use them) from the old config but you will need to reinstate addons, themes and resave stored passwords. This is the only way I can think to solve it personally. Maybe others can advise a sleeker method. Maybe an addon you have is stopping the page and
[18:19] <BenB> glitchd: so, I just need new drivers for the new hardware, that's all. that must be possible with LTS, otherwise LTS is useless.
[18:19] <glitchd> yes, i believe you are correct
[18:19] <TheLawnmowerMan> compdoc: this is what I see http://paste.ubuntu.com/701853/
[18:19] <AndChat|> Should probably have broken that up. Apologies to all :-(
[18:19] <glitchd> did u get some new parts for the comp?
[18:20] <BenB> glitchd: it's an entirely new computer.
[18:20] <auronandace> BenB: lts is designed for stability, that can come with the price of newer hardware simply isn't supported
[18:20] <BenB> (almost=
[18:20] <BenB> auronandace: there is no stability if I cannot use it anymore.
[18:20] <glitchd> is ubuntu already installed on it?
[18:20] <BenB> glitchd: yes.
[18:20] <AndChat|> grendal-prime: do you mean app windows going monochrome?
[18:20] <glitchd> BenB, are there any updates registering?
[18:21] <BenB> glitchd: I am up-to-date
[18:21] <grendal-prime> i open something and move my mouse pointer off it..and it fades to transparrent...like 98%
[18:21] <BenB> (I just did apt-get dist-upgrade and reboot)
[18:21] <auronandace> BenB: anymore? so you've used 10.04 on it before?
[18:21] <glitchd> BenB, well if any new updates come out, they should pop up in the update manager
[18:21] <grendal-prime> kinda ...well i keep loosing my most recient opened app AndChat|..
[18:22] <BenB> auronandace: I have used 10.04 on the old computer, and I want to continue to use it. I just changed the hardware, and do *not* want to change the software.
[18:22] <grendal-prime> an it spans acros two monitors..alot of realistate when i plug the other two monitors in.
[18:22] <auronandace> BenB: what hardware have you changed exactly? (sorry if you've already said in channel)
[18:22] <BenB> auronandace: everything
[18:23] <AndChat|> Benb: there is the proposed repo if you want later stuff too. Not sure how supported the packages are in here (if at all)
[18:23] <Barco> Anyone have experience with Rdp Connections to Virtualbox on Ubuntu?
[18:23] <TheLawnmowerMan> Any other suggestions?  Ubuntu sees my audio device but I still get no audio.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/701853/
[18:23] <grendal-prime> i have to scan across allot of ground to get the app to fade back in..or alt tab to it..wich works...dont get me wrong.  but it seems like it would be easyer to just not fade it off and then i could just see it..and..well click on it.
[18:24] <auronandace> BenB: i don't think you can just transfer 10.04 off the old pc to the new, you'd need to reinstall (especially since the hardware is different)
[18:25] <AndChat|> Barco: set the network interface to be bridged in the vbox config and it will get an ip from your router. You can then rdp to that ip and it will connect
[18:25] <grendal-prime> Girly-Girl!! finally you are here!!  are you the girly-girl i married...? or the girly-grirl i didnt marry?
[18:25] <oCean> grendal-prime: wrong channel
[18:25] <Pici> grendal-prime: Try to stay on-topic, k?
[18:25] <BenB> auronandace: normally that works just fine. a reinstall doesn't change anything. the problem is that the drivers in 10.04 are too *old* to support the new chips. so, there must be updates for new hardware, to continue to use LTS.
[18:26] <grendal-prime> GirlyGirl, what do you know about windows that fade out after you move your mouse off of them?
[18:26] <BenB> auronandace: even if it's optional. but just telling an LTS user to install 11.10 beta is not great.
[18:26] <grendal-prime> :-)
[18:26] <soreau> grendal-prime: Probably compiz trail focus plugin
[18:26] <GirlyGirl> grendal-prime: ???
[18:26] <soreau> grendal-prime: Or opacify
[18:27] <grendal-prime> tried changing the opacify didtn make any diff
[18:27] <jstoone> Hi everyone, I'm struggling to get sound though my labtop speakers. INFO: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=344083674d8cb9b42233a511d289f5f37a738364 - The headphone jack works perfectly, but the builtin speakers doesn't, any suggestions?
[18:27] <glebihan> BenB, no normally transferring a system for one computer to another does *not* work
[18:27] <auronandace> BenB: i never suggested that, but the fact is that 10.04 uses an older kernel which doesn't have support for your hardware (you want support then you'll need a newer kernel)
[18:27] <grendal-prime> glebihan, speak for yourself...ive had a ton of luck with that
[18:27] <glebihan> grendal-prime, well you were just lucky then
[18:28] <terje> hello all, how do I get into grub on an ubuntu system? It keeps doing a splash screen and I can't boot into the grub menu
[18:28] <soreau> terje: hold shift
[18:28] <grendal-prime> not across architecturers that is..but..
[18:28] <terje> ah, thanks.
[18:29] <TheLawnmowerMan> How do people use Ubuntu without sound?  I don't get it
[18:29] <jstoone> terje: happy rebooting ;)
[18:29] <cordoval> I am trying to get output in my ubuntu ~/.bashrc of this function but not in the case where the result is an error or is not a .git folder
[18:29] <BenB> auronandace: yes, I understand that. I just want a supported way to get the new drivers, even if that means that I install linux 3.1 (which I'd be happy about for my SSD and trim support, too) and a new xorg. I just don't want my whole software landscape (including gnome3 and stuff) changed.
[18:29] <cordoval>     $(git log --oneline -n 3 2>/dev/null)
[18:29] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: What do you mean?
[18:29] <cordoval> how do I do it?
[18:30] <AndChat|> TheLawnmowerMan: my torrent/samba/fileserver runs ubuntu without sound...
[18:30] <BenB> auronandace: I'm fine with adding a new repo for updates, as long as it's sure to work, not "may or may not work".
[18:30] <glebihan> BenB, are you telling us that you absolutely want to stick to LTS and are using gnome3 on it ??? I don't get it...
[18:30] <auronandace> BenB: a new kernel and a new xorg is not a trivial thing to change, that is why it isn't offered under lts
[18:31] <auronandace> glebihan: no, he doesn't want to change to gnome 3
[18:31] <BenB> glebihan: no, I don't want gnome3 and want to stick to gnome2, and that's one of the reasons I want to keep LTS.
[18:31] <devan> how can I choose where I mount my iphone? gtkpod requires it be mounted to /media/ipod...
[18:31] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: I've installed Ubuntu but I can't get any audio to work.  I see my audio card in Sound and I can find it in terminal (paste.ubuntu.com/701853/) but it's not working.
[18:31] <devan> that, or how can I figure out where it is mounted?
[18:31] <BenB> auronandace: fine. I don't care. just make the *current* LTS release work with *currently* sold computers.
[18:31] <glebihan> BenB, oh ok I misread you sorry
[18:32] <BenB> auronandace: I don't think that's too much to ask.
[18:32] <soreau> devan: You can remount it manually, create a symlink or possibly mess with udev settings
[18:32] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: Does the headphone jack work?
[18:32] <glebihan> BenB, just so you know, natty doesn't come with gnome3
[18:32] <glitchd> how do i check in synaptic to see which kernels are installed?
[18:32] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: No
[18:32] <auronandace> BenB: take a look at the release date of 10.04 and then tell me when you purchased the pc which you are trying to install it on
[18:32] <D_Russ> any good screen recording software?
[18:33] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: Is it a newly installed box?
[18:33] <TheLawnmowerMan> Yes
[18:33] <BenB> auronandace: the release date is irrelevant. it's the current LTS, so it must get updates for current hardware.
[18:33] <compilerwriter> blueskaj, Jucato are you here somewhere?
[18:33] <BenB> auronandace: (and I think 10.04.4 was released after amd fusion)
[18:34] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: Have you looked in the "Additional Drivers"? So see if your card is there and needs to be activated?
[18:34] <BenB> I don't want to argue. I just want my PC to work.
[18:34] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: I'd show you a screenshot of my sound settings but it's just showing a digital mess.
[18:34] <auronandace> BenB: i can't help you
[18:34] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: and I can't see my mouse pointer...I just see some weird pixels
[18:34] <glebihan> BenB, then make a fresh install
[18:34] <grendal-prime> glebihan, i dont get it...i mean..seriously for base functionality?  yank a drive out of an i386 machine..put it into another one..same arch.  Why would that pose any huge problem?
[18:34] <BenB> glebihan: thanks, but I don't think natty supports the AMD A8-3850, does it?
[18:35] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: looking at 'additional drivers'
[18:35] <BenB> glebihan: does a fresh install of 10.04 fix it?
[18:35] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: What kind of computer are we talking about here? toaster?
[18:35] <auronandace> BenB: the bottom line is that you simply need a recent kernel that supports your hardware
[18:35] <glebihan> BenB, because hardware is not the same
[18:35] <BenB> auronandace: fine. where do I get it?
[18:35] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: microwave
[18:35] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: Nice! +1
[18:35] <glebihan> grendal-prime, ^^
[18:35] <auronandace> BenB: you can't under 10.04
[18:35] <grendal-prime> if its diff arch then ya that will not work..but 686 has changed that much?
[18:35] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: Can you activate anything?
[18:35] <BenB> auronandace: ah, there's the problem.
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> BenB: a fresh install usually is more efficient than repairing errors
[18:36] <auronandace> BenB: exactly, that is what i've been trying to tell you
[18:36] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: It's saying that No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[18:36] <glebihan> grendal-prime, I didn't it would never work, just that it's a bad idea and is likely not to work. Now if it works for you, I'm fine with it
[18:36] <BenB> auronandace: no backports, no supported new kernel, and I am left in the cold. ubuntu clearly didn't think here. they expect me to use the same hardware for 5 years. that's unrealistic.
[18:36] <joseph_> could anyone fill me in as to what change I need to make so that all directories are visible in my /home/usrname directory?
[18:37] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: So there are no devices/drives on the list?
[18:37] <grendal-prime> got it.
[18:37] <qin> joseph_: Ctrl-h
[18:37] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: drivers/devices*
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> joseph_: type ctrl-h
[18:37] <joseph_> ty both
[18:37] <auronandace> BenB: complian to canonical then, or file bug reports
[18:37] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: yeah I just wanted to use this box for xbmc but that got no audio as well
[18:37] <qin> joseph_: or: ls -a
[18:37] <grendal-prime> sorry didnt mean to badger i was just curious what sort of errors you got  ..fooding time.
[18:37] <BenB> MonkeyDust: don't suggest a reinstall, if you're not sure that it fixes the problem.
[18:37] <glebihan> grendal-prime, I actually never tried
[18:38] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: nothing is in the list for additional drivers
[18:38] <user_cron> .
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> BenB: everything else seems to fail
[18:38] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: oooh, yea you could struggle a bit if it displays some weird pixels, no mouse, and no sound at all.
[18:38] <jstoone> hmm.
[18:39] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: The weird pixels just started today.  It was working fine last night.  I'm going to reboot right now and see if that clears up.  BRB
[18:39] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: kk
[18:39] <glebihan> BenB, you can never be certain that anything will fix a problem. A reinstall is likely to solve your issues
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> BenB: if you backup first, a reinstall is no great issue
[18:40] <BenB> glebihan, MonkeyDust: guys, if 10.04 (stock) doesn't *contain* the drivers for my hardware, a reinstall is not going to fix it.
[18:40] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj are you active here?
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> BenB: what hardware is that?
[18:41] <BenB> MonkeyDust: read up
[18:42] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, was just aboutnto leave for an hr
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> BenB: repeating it  is faster and easier
[18:42] <compilerwriter> ok BluesKaj
[18:42] <BenB> MonkeyDust: no, I am trying to tell you that you shouldn't give wrong advice to people.
[18:42] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, bbl
[18:42] <Atamisk> how would i go about installing ubuntu onto an empty drive from a running ubuntu session?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> BenB: wrong advice?
[18:43] <BenB> MonkeyDust: yes. suggesting a re-install (which costs about 1h), although it will not fix the problem. if you had  listened above, you would know that a reinstall cannot help.
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> BenB: just came in, I wasn't at my desk
[18:44] <compilerwriter> Why am I seeing everything, save part and joins, twice?
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> BenB: so just repeat the initian question by pressing the up-key
[18:45] <BenB> MonkeyDust: just scroll up, or if you're too lazy for that, don't say anything.
[18:45] <BenB> MonkeyDust: I dom
[18:45] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: BenB wasn't aware that 10.04 doesn't support the hardware he has, after he copied over his 10.04 install from an older pc (not realising that he shouldn't do that)
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> BenB: please stay polite, we're all volunteers trying to help
[18:46] <BenB> auronandace: I am aware that it may not. I was assuming that canonical cannot be so brain-dead to ignore currently sold hardware on the LTS release.
[18:46] <BenB> auronandace: I was assuming that there *must* be a way to update drivers. under windows, I just pop in the CS.
[18:46] <BenB> CD
[18:47] <BenB> (and Windows XP is supported for 12 years, BTW)
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> BenB: Canonical is not brain-dead because you want to do something that is impossible
[18:47] <BenB> MonkeyDust: it is possible. I just want linux 3.1 compiled and tested for 10.04.
[18:47] <glebihan> BenB, well... you won't have that
[18:48] <Atamisk> wait, why is compiling the 3.1 kernel in 10.04 impossible??
[18:48] <devan> Ok, I'm stumped. I'm trying to connect an iphone3g with iOS4.2.1, and it's not working, but it looks like it should... First thing I'm thinking to check is my version of libimobiledevice, make sure it's 1.0.4, anyone know how to check that?
[18:49] <zebastianortis> new FP project video is out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BilbX_HiuG0
[18:49] <glebihan> Atamisk, it is possible
[18:49] <ichat> does anyone know how to debug a wifi driver isue on  xubuntu 11.04  i tryied the bcm sta drivers  and  the   fw43 installer    i removed the  blacklisting for the  b43xx from the  blacklist.conf    but stil i cant get wifi loaded
[18:49] <auronandace> Atamisk: it isn't impossible, its just not supported
[18:49] <Atamisk> ahh
[18:49] <Atamisk> okay
[18:49] <Atamisk> carry on then
[18:50] <Atamisk> (was about to say, seeing as i'm running the RC7 of 3.1 and it works great :P)
[18:51] <jstoone> TheLawnmowerMan: You back?
[18:52] <Cephlin> Does anyone know why the audio is out of sync when I play video's on ubuntu 11.04? This only happens on my desktop with ubuntu not my laptop with ubuntu.
[18:52] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: yeah, I removed my video card & put it back in.  That seemed to fix the weird graphic issues I was having.  Still no sound.  I've been working on the sound thing for a few days now
[18:53] <Atamisk> can i use virtualbox to install ubuntu on a real HDD?
[18:53] <BarkingFish> hi again guys, has there been any sign of gigenieks yet?
[18:53] <soreau> BarkingFish: Why not just ask your question?
[18:54] <TheLawnmowerMan> http://imgur.com/aCw2u this is what I see in sound preferences
[18:55] <Welshy_Rob> hi, im having trouble connecting to the internet, i have a built in network card and i've never had any problems with it, when i try connecting it just gives me an error "network disabled" the connection is clearly working okay as im using it at the moment, i have checked the settings of the connection and nothing has changed can anyone suggest what i can do?
[18:55] <oiyeu> Pici: it is very to asking my question there on Bash channel
[18:55] <oiyeu> so i ask my question there ?
[18:55] <oiyeu> i got list of command on a file with number for each command one number for example : 1.  ls -l 2. cat /etc/network/interface etc .... now what i want to do is from that file i want to call each number like this !1 for calling command 1 !2 for calling command 2 etc ....
[18:55] <soreau> Welshy_Rob: Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin.com?
[18:56] <BarkingFish> soreau, I did ask my question, did you not see it? :)
[18:56] <soreau> BarkingFish: nope
[18:56] <ichat> does anyone know how to debug a wifi driver isue on  xubuntu 11.04  i tryied the bcm STA drivers  and  the   fw43 installer    i removed the  blacklisting for the  b43xx from the  blacklist.conf    but stil i cant get wifi loaded - it doesn't give error but no wifi avail ..  wifi chip is a broadcom 4311
[18:56] <compilerwriter> I am trying ubuntu utilizing empathy and everyone's stuff is appearing twice what do I do to get rid of the echo?
[18:56] <Welshy_Rob> soreau:  yeah sure
[18:56] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: and this is what I see in terminal paste.ubuntu.com/701853/ and this is what I see when I run lspci -v | grep "Audio device" http://imgur.com/0sJMa
[18:56] <BarkingFish> Myself and fritsch were helping gigenieks in here about an hour or so back, he went afk, and I was asking if anyone had seen him again.
[18:56] <BarkingFish> as in, has he come back since we last saw him.
[18:56] <oCean> oiyeu: yes, from the history. That should work by default
[18:56] <soreau> ! broadcom | ichat
[18:56] <TheLawnmowerMan> jstoone: so something is not making sense and I'm not sure how to put it all together
[18:57] <oiyeu> yes but read my question
[18:57] <IdleOne> BarkingFish: We don't keep track of every users away status. PM them and see if they are there.
[18:57] <soreau> indeed
[18:57] <oiyeu> i got a list of command instead of calling from history i want to calling it from my custom file where i got list of command
[18:57] <oiyeu> ocen
[18:58] <Welshy_Rob> soreau: http://pastebin.com/0Hh3rkmE
[18:58] <soreau> oiyeu: Put them in a script?
[18:58] <oCean> oiyeu: oh, you would have to script that, but still the !2 command would be interpreted from the shell, not from your script
[18:59] <oCean> oiyeu: since !2 command already exists (it is shell built-in) you have to override that. Anyway it would require some scripting, there's no easy way to do that
[18:59] <auronandace> oCean: could he set aliases?
[18:59] <sianhulo> how it's called unity 2d process?
[19:00] <oCean> oiyeu: if you're looking to create aliases as auronandace suggests, you can add those in your ~/.bashrc file
[19:00] <soreau> Welshy_Rob: Does 'ifconfig' show eth0 or eth1? (or both?)
[19:00] <Welshy_Rob> soreau: eth1
[19:01] <soreau> Welshy_Rob: Is NetworkManager running?
[19:01] <oiyeu> listen oCean
[19:01] <Welshy_Rob> soreau:  yeah
[19:01] <oiyeu> i got 3 pc where i have to run all command which is on the list
[19:02] <innovate> Hello, any1 now about some good bandwith monitoring tool that can be used to track bandwith usage of induvidual users on ubuntu ?
[19:02] <soreau> Welshy_Rob: So it was working and then it stopped working? (after you did what?)
[19:02] <oiyeu> give me a solution for this ?
[19:02] <Welshy_Rob> it tries to connect using auto eth1 but then it just says "network disabled"
[19:02] <soreau> oiyeu: Put them in a script
[19:02] <soreau> copy to all systems and run
[19:02] <oiyeu> i don't want to copy/paste each command one by one like fool
[19:02] <oiyeu> no
[19:02] <Welshy_Rob> soreau: it tries to connect using auto eth1 but then it just says "network disabled" and i havent done anything significant just logged on as usual and found it wasnt working :/
[19:02] <oCean> oiyeu: you can use bash scripting, which is just a sequence of commands
[19:02] <mgtsol> hi there. I have a 10.04 Server installation on a VPS and I'm trying to troubleshoot PPTP server proplems. Which log files do I need to look at? All in /var/log/? Sorry, bit rusty with Linux
[19:02] <oiyeu> i want to do in interactive mode
[19:03] <sianhulo> so, nobody know?
[19:03] <soreau> Welshy_Rob: What gives you that message?
[19:03] <oCean> oiyeu: ok, so you can script those commands in an interactive menu
[19:03] <oCean> oiyeu: hang on
[19:03] <oiyeu> ok
[19:07] <Atamisk> how does one boot an ISO into a VM?
[19:07] <devan> can't get gtkpod to work with my iphone 3g (iOS 4.2.1), running 10.04 here... anyone have some advice?
[19:08] <soreau> Atamisk: Just set the iso to a drive in vm settings
[19:09] <welshy_rob> soreau:  it tells me "Network- disconnected", i ran nm-applet from term and it gave me the following error "DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconect 0"
[19:09] <Atamisk> soreau: thanks
[19:09] <oCean> oiyeu: I think you mean something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/701886/
[19:11] <w30> I have an application that wants /dev/dsp. I can't change the application. Is there any way to make a /dev/dsp? Like a symlink?
[19:11] <soreau> welshy_rob: You've gone past what I asked you
[19:12] <welshy_rob> soreau: sorry, what did you ask me?
[19:12] <oiyeu> yes  correct oCean
[19:13] <oiyeu> let me check if its working  oCean
[19:13] <_mwen> hello every body!
[19:14] <UbuntuBoer> Hallo...I need help --- what  is the correct command line to install the the new kernel (complete) in oneirec??
[19:14] <auronandace> !11.10 | UbuntuBoer
[19:14] <UbuntuBoer> 11.1
[19:14] <__inport__> I have a VPS with ubuntu 11.04 installed, and syslogd is using 99% of the CPU. Is this known, and can it be worked around?
[19:15] <UbuntuBoer> I made  a huge mess'
[19:15] <__inport__> this is 11.04 Server
[19:15] <soreau> welshy_rob: Can you just try 'sudo service network-manager stop && killall nm-applet' then run 'sudo dhclient eth1' and see what happens?
[19:15] <oiyeu> yes correct thanks a lot my friend oCean
[19:15] <oCean> oiyeu: haha, you're welcome!
[19:15] <oiyeu> thanks a lot
[19:16] <welshy_rob> soreau: will do, might take a sec because i have to swap computers
[19:16] <fabiH> hi peeps!  can you guys/girl help me with quickly?
[19:16] <soreau> w30: Try padsp app
[19:16] <larsdues1ng> fabiH: help with what?
[19:16] <fabiH> larsdues1ng: quickly
[19:17] <fabiH> from developer.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <w30> soreau, ok, thanks. I will check that out.
[19:17] <sianhulo> somebody knows the name of the process of ubuntu 2d?
[19:17] <larsdues1ng> fabiH: sorry, I could not help
[19:17] <fabiH> sianhulo: you mean unity 2d panel?
[19:17] <fabiH> oh, ok. thanks anyway
[19:18] <sianhulo> i dunno, i'm taking about the shell itself
[19:18] <sianhulo> after i isntalled gnome-shell, unity3d crahed, now it doesn't show the dash, so i wanna give a log, but if can't go to a shell, i cannot save the log...
[19:19] <fabiH> *facepalm*
[19:19] <auronandace> !gnome3 | sianhulo
[19:19] <grendal-prime> hey you know that cool info you get when you login to ubuntu server...tells you all the ip addresses and system state  is there a way to triger that without logggin out and back in again?
[19:19] <fabiH> it's known that gnome3 breaks that stuff
[19:20] <grendal-prime> sianhulo, you cant crrl+alt+f1 to terminal?
[19:20] <sianhulo> yeah, but i'm only asking for unity 2d
[19:20] <grendal-prime> oops that was supposed to be ctrl
[19:20] <sianhulo> yeah i can, i can see a log, but how to copy it...
[19:21] <grendal-prime> two where?
[19:21] <grendal-prime> scp logfile user@othermachine:/home/user/.
[19:21] <sianhulo> to somewhere, i don't bring a log people wont know what is my problem
[19:21] <Gentoo64> use wgetpaste or something like that
[19:21] <grendal-prime> scp to other machine on network...
[19:22] <grendal-prime> is the log written to a file?
[19:22] <grendal-prime> or only memory?
[19:22] <sianhulo> it's a log givven when i ty to run unity(3d)
[19:22] <sianhulo> it gives something about and geometrical problem and the monitor
[19:23] <UbuntuBoer> who gave me  the article of Shuttelworth to read for the command lines to install the new kernel 3??
[19:23] <welshy_rob_> soreau: these are the results http://pastebin.com/c2naXCBF
[19:23] <Gentoo64> UbuntuBoer, do you need it?
[19:23] <Gentoo64> or want it
[19:23] <UbuntuBoer> want
[19:23] <UbuntuBoer> please
[19:23] <Gentoo64> its basically the same
[19:23] <Gentoo64> as 2.6.39
[19:23] <physically_fit> i dont understand the hate unity receives
[19:24] <UbuntuBoer> can you paste for me.....stuck
[19:24] <tyhgu> physically_fit: me too
[19:24] <auronandace> UbuntuBoer: #ubuntu+1
[19:24] <physically_fit> tyhgu, ;)
[19:24] <Gentoo64> unity recieves hate because its slow and buggy
[19:24] <Gentoo64> whats to like
[19:24] <sianhulo> but well. grendal-prime, fabiH gave the name of unity 2d process so i can swithc back, therefore i ca copy the log
[19:25] <fabiH> for the panel, it's unity-2d-apnel i think
[19:25] <fabiH> *panel
[19:25] <sianhulo> yep, it worked
[19:25] <fmauro> I agree, maybe I'm just not flexible enough, but unity destroys my workflow completely
[19:25] <dondiba> hi
[19:25] <tyhgu> big step forward for me. i like to have more space on screen and unity easily gives you that
[19:26] <ScottyBoy> Hey guys, I just tried to boot Ubuntu for the first time, and got the following error. Does this mean my computer is too old?
[19:26] <ScottyBoy> 0.004506 [Hardware Error]: No human readable MCE decoding support on this CPU type.
[19:26] <ScottyBoy> 0.004560 [Hardware Error]: Run the message through 'mcelog --ascii' to decode.
[19:26] <sianhulo> no, wait, didn't work, the dash isn't there
[19:27] <soreau> welshy_rob_: Are you sure the network cable is pugged securely?
[19:27] <sianhulo> so i copied the log but cannot pastebin it cf
[19:28] <dondiba> hello i seek advice to install ubuntu on my dell vostro 3550 laptop
[19:28] <welshy_rob_> soreau:  yes, its plugged in okay, but this maybe a noobish thing to say but usually i get a orange and a green light appear, however since this problem has started ive only been getting a orange light very occasionally ??
[19:28] <eiriksvin> Hi all, does anyone know if theres a way to download internet radio songs, sort of like NetVideoHunter does with videos?
[19:28] <UbuntuBoer> Grenytoo64
[19:28] <jack_cvr> guys, many processes of udev daemon its a bug?
[19:28] <UbuntuBoer> is is just me in there
[19:28] <auronandace> sianhulo: if you've installed gnome3 then unity will be broken (you'd have to reinstall)
[19:28] <fmauro> dondiba: what do you need to know?
[19:28] <hanksP> How can I ssh from linux to android devices?
[19:29] <soreau> welshy_rob_: I believe the green light means it's plugged and orange means data is being transfered. If it's not connecting. there won't be much (if any) data transfering
[19:29] <soreau> transferring*
[19:30] <sianhulo> auronandace, i've oneiric, i wast jsut asking bout the name process, so i can  pastebin it into ubuntu+1
[19:30] <welshy_rob_> soreau: i see, so new network card then?
[19:30] <sianhulo> but since they weren't replying...
[19:30] <fmauro> hanksP: not really a ubuntu question, but, you'll need to run a ssh-server on the device, also this may not be possible over the cellular network
[19:30] <soreau> welshy_rob_: It's not typical for a network card to just stop working though it's not inconceivable either
[19:30] <auronandace> sianhulo: i see, try to keep 11.10 talk in #ubuntu+1
[19:31] <welshy_rob_> soreau: btw, i just tried running a command i found on ubuntu forums "sudo ifup eth1" and it came back by saying ifup couldnt read interfaces file "etc/network/interfaces"
[19:31] <soreau> welshy_rob_: If you have a live cd, try it and see if it works. If it does, the hardware is fine
[19:31] <dondiba> fmauro : i tried usual method usb bootable key, cd, and both worked on other computer but not mine, is it tatooed or what?
[19:31] <soreau> welshy_rob_: Well that could be a problem.. the file does exust, right?
[19:31] <soreau> exist*
[19:31] <sianhulo> auri was asking about unity2d, and it is in natty, so i did nothing faulty(i think)
[19:32] <welshy_rob_> soreau: apparently i can cd to it ?
[19:32] <soreau> welshy_rob_: Just try 'cat /etc/network/interfaces'
[19:32] <welshy_rob_> soreau: i would boot from a live cd but havent got a sata cable for my cd reader atm xD , will do
[19:33] <fmauro> dondiba: I highly doubt that, where exactly is the installation failing?
[19:33] <devan> PLEASE! SAVE ME! MY IPHONE SUCKS! WHWHWYYYY ME?E!?!?
[19:33] <eiriksvin> Does anyone know if theres a way to download internet radio songs, sort of like NetVideoHunter does with videos?
[19:33] <axisys> how do I find out what pkgs are not in repo?
[19:33] <deshymers> anyone here use the apple magic trackpad and have an issue with horizontal scrolling triggering a right click in certain applications?
[19:34] <welshy_rob_> soreau: it displayed the same as what was in the pastebin (auto eth1) etc
[19:34] <auronandace> axisys: search for them and if you don't find them, there is your answer
[19:34] <soreau> welshy_rob_: Try 'gksi gedit /etc/network/interfaces' and comment out the line eth1 inet DCHP by putting a # at the beginning of the line
[19:34] <dondiba> fmauro : with cd, live session is ok, but when installing it fail partitioning
[19:34] <soreau> welshy_rob_: not gksi, gksu
[19:34] <welshy_rob_> soreau: kk
[19:35] <cutiyar> i have created DSL connection and worked great , but after restarting now when i connect to the DSL it ask me DSL authentication but the box shows nothing . u can see the box here http://postimage.org/image/1h49cjryc/
[19:35] <Huffameg> hi. I have a problem that is probably easy to fix: i can't install a «winetricks»-update because it comes from a non-trusted source. how can i fix this?
[19:35] <axisys> auronandace: apt-cache search splunk
[19:35] <axisys> splunk - Splunk
[19:35] <fmauro> dondiba: okay, are you sure that your system disk is okay? is the laptop used? have you run a fschk and smartd ?
[19:35] <axisys> auronandace: it is not in repo
[19:35] <welshy_rob_> soreau: okay, done that and saved it
[19:35] <hathadar> After entering the pass phrase for my encrypted HDD, the boot process give the errors "Unable to find suitable address" and "mountall: mount /mnt/asdf terminated with status 2".  Running ubuntu 11.04 w/ unity
[19:35] <soreau> welshy_rob_: Now try sudo ifconfig eth0 up; sudo dhclient eth0
[19:36] <axisys> auronandace: let me rephrase my question..
[19:36] <dondiba> fmauro : the laptop is ok, running seven, it's new, the usb key install failed too,
[19:36] <eiriksvin> nevermind, I can do it right in NetVideoHunter :) Firefox addons can be sweet
[19:36] <axisys> auronandace: how do I find out which of my installed pkgs are not in repo
[19:36] <welshy_rob_> soreau: brb
[19:37] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj are you back yet?
[19:37] <soreau> welshy_rob_: gah, I mean not eth0 but eth1
[19:37] <cutiyar> DSL ask Athentication while connect,why? but the authentication box shown nothing , just ok and cancel
[19:38] <compilerwriter> Can anyone help me try to rescue a hard drive.  I am using a live cd on my computer to get to irc
[19:38] <fmauro> dondiba: so you can run win7 fine, but the install fails... hmmm. Are you using the guided partitioning to install it alongside of win7?
[19:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> compilerwriter:  define "rescue", since the drive could possibly have just failed
[19:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> and that's dependent on a bunch of factors
[19:39] <fmauro> compilerwriter: in case you need it: http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Ddrescue
[19:39] <dondiba> fmorau : yes, i did it ; the dell vostro 3550 seems to have this problem not linux install compliant
[19:39] <soreau> compilerwriter: What do you mean by rescue a hard drive?
[19:39] <compilerwriter> TheEvilPhoenix that is what I am needing to determine.  If I can rescue the date or not.
[19:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> compilerwriter:  kinda hard to determine from a livecd
[19:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> can you mount the drive?
[19:40] <compilerwriter> The machine had been shutdown and not used for several months.  Then there is a bootdisk error on bootup.
[19:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> what was the error?
[19:40] <compilerwriter> Evil I can't remember the terminal commands to even try to.
[19:41] <compilerwriter> I am sorry evil but I can't remember the exact wording of the error.  I will get pen and paper though and write it down if that will help you to help me.
[19:42] <fmauro> dondiba: have you tried the last post here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13106  ?
[19:42] <eiriksvin> #firefox
[19:42] <eiriksvin> oops
[19:44] <compilerwriter> TheEvilPhoenix shall I try that?
[19:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> compilerwriter:  knowing what the error is does help
[19:44] <compilerwriter> Ok I will be back in a few minutes
[19:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> as well, knowing if you can mount the drive, which you *shoudl* be able to do without even using the console
[19:47] <dondiba> fmorau : i tried few forums, some says they have the same problem as me... ; by the way the usb dongle installed ubuntu flawlessly on my mother pc
[19:48] <fmauro> dondiba: it's fmauro (it doesn't highlight otherwise) and yes, you said that, .. look at post #5 on the page I just sent you. try that
[19:49] <hathadar> Ubuntu 11.04.  I am unable to boot to the login screen.  After I enter the pass key for my HDD the machine shows "unable to find address" and "mountall: unable to mount /mnt/asdf [1234] terminated with status 2".  Help please.
[19:49] <dondiba> fmauro: ok i go there, bye
[19:54] <EgyParadox> !arabic
[19:55] <EgyParadox> !arabic
[19:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> EgyParadox:  please don't try and repeat bot commands - it becomes annoying
[19:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> and floody
[19:59] <EgyParadox> TheEvilPhoenix, I wanted to show something to a person who havent joined the channel
[19:59] <sysadamin> question re: installing ona  macbook pro
[19:59] <sysadamin> ive heard some interesting stories about processor load and frying hardware when installed baremetal
[19:59] <EgyParadox> he didnt see it because he didnt join it yet
[19:59] <sysadamin> anyone else back this up?
[19:59] <dai> hello~
[20:00] <dai> Could someone explain me what do I do with a tgz file? I'm a windows newb
[20:01] <EgyParadox> hasnt*
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> dai: what is the name of the file and where is it stored?
[20:02] <dai> i'm looking to install this wireless driver called iwlwifi-4965-ucode-228.61.2.24 stored on [Downloads] and I have no idea how to use it
[20:02] <dai> I've read the readme found within the folder but that leaves me even more clueless as to how to proceed
[20:02] <auronandace> dai: you shouldn't need that
[20:03] <dai> oh hi Auron! :D
[20:03] <tyhgu> looking for people who would like to make some programmers/graphics group.
[20:03] <akSeya> hey folks.. i need a hand with LibreOffice.. it's simple thing... i open a sheet from Google Docs directly in localc without saving it to the HD, it is open Read only and I can't change anything.. how do I enable changes to this sheet? i don't want to copy the whole document and past in a new one just to change line sizes and then delete the file...
[20:04] <dai> i think I need it if I want to crack my own wep :0
[20:04] <auronandace> dai: you should already have intel wifi drivers installed
[20:05] <dai> i do but I'm hitting a wall with injections lol
[20:05] <auronandace> dai: what are you trying to do?
[20:05] <excelsior> akSeya: save as a new document
[20:05] <dai> I managed to crack my own wep within an hour by waiting out but I wanna try doing it faster :p
[20:06] <dai> just break my router's wifi pass
[20:06] <fmauro> dai: This isn't really ontopic
[20:06] <akSeya> excelsior, i just want to change line size too have a better view of it's content, but I don't need to have it saved
[20:06] <auronandace> dai: why can't you use wpa (if it is your router)
[20:06] <akSeya> excelsior, if I Save As, i'll have to delete it later
[20:06] <dai> well he asked so i'm answering..
[20:07] <crypt> Recently did an offline update using the DVD image, now, since I can not run "sudo apt-get update" from the installed node.
[20:07] <crypt> my only source of internet is a proxied Windows-7 PC, how can I grap the update for my offline ubuntu.
[20:07] <excelsior> akSeya: pick your poison... you've gone to more trouble just to type here about it though...
[20:07] <dai> i use wpa, i just switched it back to wep to have fun cracking it :p..
[20:07] <cutiyar> i cant connect to DSL ? today was working.
[20:07] <akSeya> excelsior, yeah... but I need to do it very often
[20:07] <akSeya> excelsior, there should be a "Enable Changes" option somewhere
[20:08] <fmauro> dai: with such questions , also concerning the drivers microcode you can head over to #aircrack-ng
[20:08] <akSeya> :(
[20:08] <smacky> anyone in here?
[20:08] <smacky> i need helpz
[20:08] <dai> then can I ask how are tgz format used?
[20:08] <physically_fit> !es
[20:08] <ikonia> you need "help"
[20:08] <smacky> i have an epson stylus 420nx that i want to print wirelessly from ubuntu and ubuntu wont find the printer
[20:09] <dai> I'm really unfamiliar with the way linux installs things, it feels like a mac but less intuitive
[20:09] <fmauro> dai: sure, tgz is a compression, tar and gz, you can untar it like a regular archive through nautilus or in the command line tar xvf <filename>
[20:09] <auronandace> dai: tgz is an archive (think of it as an alternative to .zip)
[20:09] <cutiyar> i cant connect to DSL ? today was working.
[20:09] <crypt> no takers then
[20:10] <dai> by untar, do you mean extract the folder within the tgz ?
[20:10] <physically_fit> hey ikonia, hi
[20:10] <bsmith093> i have a text file full of urls, can i get firefox to batch load one to a tab?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> dai: if yuo are cracking wep i suggest you ask in #backtrack-linux or ##networking
[20:10] <fmauro> dai: it doesn't have to be folders, but yes basically that is the gist of it
[20:10] <physically_fit> ikonia do you have a twitter account? i'll follow you
[20:11] <smacky> can anyone help me with this printer?
[20:11] <ikonia> physically_fit: that's nothing to do with this channel, I have no idea why you are trying to push me
[20:11] <dai> i'll give that a try Action, I still need some help getting my bearings with linux, only been trying it out for a day
[20:11] <auronandace> !tab | dai
[20:11] <xauth> smacky: could that printer be using ad-hoc networking instead of regular?
[20:11] <cutiyar> heyyyyy any one see my posts?
[20:12] <smacky> xauth no
[20:12] <dai> what's tab?
[20:12] <smacky> dai the tab key
[20:12] <dai> auronandace: OHHHH
[20:12] <xauth> smacky: so it's in your wlan?
[20:12] <smacky> xauth yes
[20:12] <dai> ubottu: smacky did it make your screen beep?
[20:12] <auronandace> dai: well done
[20:12] <smacky> dai it can
[20:12] <xauth> smacky: and you're using cups?
[20:12] <smacky> yes
[20:12] <dai> ubottu: Hell yeah! auronandace AWESOME smacky BEEP Lol :P
[20:13] <auronandace> dai: why are you talking to the bot?
[20:13] <DasEi> dai:ubott.. is the channel ro-baot, triggered by ! like:
[20:13] <DasEi> !brain
[20:13] <dai> auronandace: I'm an idiot >_>
[20:13] <smacky> xauth its showing in my router as being on the wlan, windows 7 is also having issues with it
[20:13] <xauth> smacky: in that case it's probably about finding the right drivers. That's a bit of black art to me. Try a few, and maybe one works.
[20:13] <smacky> both systems are using 64bit os's
[20:14] <smacky> got the drivers
[20:14] <excelsior> akSeya: query the openoffice forums or IRC room, it's not really germane to Ubuntu
[20:14] <xauth> smacky: Your os's bittiness shouldn't matter.
[20:14] <dai> auronandace: do you need to use the terminal for most tgz installations?
[20:14] <smacky> xauth i realize that, this is why im getting p.o'd about it
[20:14] <smacky> 3 days and no results
[20:14] <akSeya> excelsior, i'm there already ;)
[20:15] <DasEi> !compile | dai
[20:15] <auronandace> dai: you don't really install tgz, they are just archives, you can use graphical apps to extract them
[20:15] <gigenieks> OK, guys I have really emergency, I need to fix this asap, because I have to finish my homework for tomorrow or university. I, can't access my USB flash it is kinda empty, but when I try to copy some files it says "no free space" or something like that.. And I found out that there is 5 files which I deleted from that USB flash a few days ago and I can't delete them (or empty trash) because they are kinda locked (I just cant delete them from trash).
[20:15] <gigenieks> Help :/
[20:15]  * xauth thinks that whole cups thing is clear as mud.
[20:15] <smacky> yerp @ cpus
[20:15] <smacky> cups*
[20:15] <dai> DasEi: you sneaky.... I thought the bot was talking to me again..
[20:16] <DasEi> :)
[20:16] <DasEi> gigenieks: open a terminal ..
[20:16] <dai> auronandace: I'll go read up on compiling thx :3
[20:17] <xauth> smacky: ... out of ideas on this end then. Sorry.
[20:17] <DasEi> gigenieks: sudo mkdir /media/usb
[20:17] <auronandace> dai: compiling can get complicated, especially if you've only used linux for a day
[20:17] <smacky> xauth ubuntu should pwn this printer
[20:17] <dai> auronandace: Yeah..I have no idea what ubottu linked me is
[20:17] <auronandace> !software | dai
[20:17] <DasEi> gigenieks: sudo fdisk -l , which sdXX is it ?
[20:18] <crypt> gigenieks, try EnCase
[20:18] <dai> auronandace: aaahh! neat
[20:19] <DasEi> gigenieks: ?
[20:19] <gigenieks> it is /dev/sdb (1031MB) which is in 2 partions sdb1 and sdb2 (dunno why it show that)
[20:19] <gigenieks> Do you need all output in paste.ubuntu?
[20:19] <DasEi> no, fine
[20:19] <DasEi> gigenieks: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[20:19] <physically_fit> hello frombehind
[20:20] <DasEi> gigenieks: sudo umount /dev/sdb2
[20:20] <DasEi> gigenieks: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[20:21] <Bridge|> is spawn/expect/send not supported on ubuntu for bash scripting or is there a newer/better method now?
[20:21] <gigenieks> done (btw on sudo umount /dev/sdb2 it showed "umount: /dev/sdb2: not mounted"
[20:21] <compilerwriter> TheEvilPhoenix: I finally made it back
[20:21] <gigenieks> what next, DasEi?
[20:21] <Eziori> hey guys, I'm not completely new to linux/ubuntu, i have been and out of it for quite some time. but now when i try installing ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04 all i'm left with during the installation is the task bar and the background picture. this wasn't the case back in the 9.x. any ideas on what it might be and on how to fix it?
[20:21] <ikonia> Bridge|: those are not valid bash arguments or operators
[20:22] <DasEi1> gigenieks: sry, was disconnected, cd /media/usb
[20:23] <Loshki> Bridge|: spawn/expect/send are 'expect' operators. 'Expect' is an app that can be run from bash.
[20:23] <compilerwriter> TheEvilPhoenix: my thing says "Disk Boot Failure insert system disk and then press enter"
[20:23] <DasEi1> gigenieks: ls, wanted files there ?
[20:23] <joejoe> hi i am using ubuntu 11.10 with gnome-shell and the gnome terminal does not respect default settings of "show menubar" option (the option is unchecked, but menubar is visible) see http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/gnome-terminal-menu.png
[20:24] <Bridge|> ty Loshki
[20:24] <Pici> joejoe : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[20:24] <compilerwriter> I am using an 11.04 live cd with a Daewoo plasma as my monitor.  Can anyone tell me how to get rid of the flicker?
[20:25] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj are you back?
[20:25] <daenyth_> Hi
[20:25] <DasEi1> gigenieks: ?
[20:25] <daenyth_> Anyone here have experience with changing pulseaudio profiles via CLI? When I run 'pacmd set-card-profile' I get an error, and I don't know how to fix it. I get Failed to set card profile to 'analog-stereo'. (or 'hdmi-stereo')
[20:26] <daenyth_> As far as I can tell those are the default profile names
[20:26] <daenyth_> I can set profiles in pavucontrol, but can't get it to work with pacmd
[20:26] <daenyth_> anyone have an idea?
[20:26] <gigenieks> DasEi1: there is no files, my USB flash (which is 1gb) is empty, BUT I can't copy anything to it!! It says some error about "no free space" but when I go to trash there is some files (whic I deleted from USB some day ago) but I CANT empty that trash because those files are locked.
[20:26] <gigenieks> I can give exact error messages if needed?!
[20:26] <gigenieks> Do you understand my situation?
[20:27] <DasEi1> gigenieks: df -h
[20:27] <dondiba> fmorau: thank, seems to work this way, installation is ongoing!
[20:27] <DasEi1> gigenieks: you now want to delete these files and put other stuff on ?
[20:28] <gigenieks> And want to be able to put what I want to that USb flash
[20:28] <gigenieks> right now I can't
[20:28] <DasEi1> gigenieks: df -h (to check if it is sdb1 right and not sdb2
[20:28] <DasEi1> which size is shown ?
[20:29] <gigenieks> DasEi1: df -h output --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/701916/
[20:29] <gigenieks> it is right partiont as I see
[20:30] <DasEi1> gigenieks: yupp, and the current files can be deleted ?
[20:31] <zl0> morning all..Could you please advise me framework under c++ for neuro which can be integrated with DSEL
[20:32] <vsync> /join ##c++
[20:32] <gigenieks> In flash ther is none files, but in trash is (when I add USB), I need to delete those files from trash in order to get space in that USB.
[20:32] <gigenieks> Kinda weird I guess...
[20:33] <DasEi1> !trash
[20:33] <gigenieks> But important to get it done today
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> gigenieks: open the mount point and press CTRL+H and you can see all hidden folders
[20:34] <gigenieks> ActionParsnip: you mean /media/usb?
[20:34] <compilerwriter> TheEvilPhoenix: Are you at your keyboard?
[20:34] <dai> i wonder.....can you play dwarf fort on ubuntu?
[20:35] <DasEi1> gigenieks: cd .../.Trash-userid/ (the one of the usb), then sudo rm it (be sure to be in the right dir) or simply reformat with gparted if that's too risky for you
[20:35] <gigenieks> There is folder named ".Trash-1000" should I delete it??
[20:35] <DasEi1> gigenieks: yes
[20:36] <TheMatrix3000> I need assistance in getting an application to start once a user logs in
[20:36] <TheMatrix3000> where would I put the command to start the application
[20:37] <DasEi1> TheMatrix3000: /etc/rc.local
[20:37] <vsync> use the fucking google, seriously
[20:37] <vsync> google runlevels
[20:37] <Pici> vsync: That attitude and language is not appropriate for this or any of our channels.
[20:37] <TheMatrix3000> no need to cuss man
[20:38] <Pici> !guidelines > vsync
[20:38] <compilerwriter> ok folks I have a hard drive I like to salvage data from if I can get the thing mounted.  Any takers.
[20:38] <Hathadar> I just updated my nvidia drivers to v 280.13.  Ubuntu now fails to boot to desktop.  The kernal log states a conflict between client (v 280.13) and the kernal (v 270.41.06).  How do I update the kernal to allow the newer drivers?
[20:38] <TheMatrix3000> I didn't even know they were called run levels
[20:38] <vsync> Maybe you oughta learn some then
[20:38] <gigenieks> DasEi1: I tried to delete it, but I couldn't pressed "del" key nothing happened, pressed right mouse "delete" option is grayed out (= dont have permissions?!) so i tried to pen file manager "gksudo thunar" (I have Xubuntu) and go to /media/usb but now there is no folder at all... So what should I do?
[20:38] <TheMatrix3000> I am learning
[20:38] <Pici> !runlevels | TheMatrix3000 vsync
[20:39] <DasEi1> TheMatrix3000: that's another way to do so, or can use a cronjob
[20:39] <TheMatrix3000> well cronjobs run in time intervals correct
[20:39] <TheMatrix3000> not based on logins are they?
[20:39] <gigenieks> DasEi1: Ok i get to see it "show hidden files" but when I delete I got error "Unable to find or create trash directory"
[20:39] <DasEi1> gigenieks: cd as root to the folder and from inside rmit
[20:40] <DasEi1> rm it*
[20:43] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: open a trml
[20:43] <bober> fgg
[20:43] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: sudo mkdir /media/hd
[20:44] <bober> алоха
[20:44] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: sudo fdisk -l  , which sdXX is it ?
[20:44] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: sudo mount /dev/sdXX /media/hd
[20:45] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: cd /media/hd && ls
[20:45] <DasEi1> gigenieks: success ?
[20:46] <DasEi1> gigenieks: else simply reformat it with gparted
[20:46] <BarkingFish> aha, he's back :)  Sorry I wasn't here when you arrived back gigenieks - was dealing with a breaking news story which needed urgent attention.
[20:46] <khear> hi, when shutting down ubuntu, is there a way to see the shutdown console messages instead of the progress bar?
[20:47] <compilerwriter>  DasEi1 I got called away can we start over please.  My apologies.
[20:47] <gigenieks> Da** I am getting angry such a pain in a**... I managed to remove that folder, but I could nothing copy to it.. So I tried to remove it and insert again in slot some weird things happening when I insert it I got 2 or 3 windows with "open with" huh??!
[20:47] <DasEi1> khear: you can edit /etc/default/grub and remove the splash-option
[20:47] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: open a trml
[20:47] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: sudo mkdir /media/hd
[20:47] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: sudo fdisk -l  , which sdXX is it ?
[20:48] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: sudo mount /dev/sdXX /media/hd
[20:48] <gigenieks> It automatically opens media folder where is "usb" which we created earlier and is locked (locked = with big x sign to it) /media/USB DISK  file.
[20:48] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: cd /media/hd && ls
[20:48] <khear> DasEi1: thanks
[20:48] <DasEi1> gigenieks: k, then unmount it and reformat
[20:49] <DasEi1> khear: nickmiss ?
[20:49] <gigenieks> how do I exactly reformat it?
[20:49] <DasEi1> gigenieks: gksudo gparted
[20:49] <gigenieks> BarkingFish: its fine.
[20:50] <compilerwriter> fdisk -l returned nothing DasEi1
[20:51] <gigenieks> DasEi1: need to install it first (I have Xubuntu) there is no gparted by deault
[20:51] <DasEi1> gigenieks: choose the drive uppr right corner, do a new mstable and forrmat it (right-klick on the emty space, then apply-button)
[20:51] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: l="L"
[20:51] <physically_fit> i think on windows you can format the USB device by right clicking on it
[20:51] <khear> DasEi1: err.. as far as i can see, you told me about the grub option? or maybe i'm going crazy.
[20:52] <tsaknorris> join /#python
[20:52] <BarkingFish> tsaknorris, try this: /join #python
[20:52] <BarkingFish> it works better :)
[20:52] <DasEi1> khear: err, my bad , sure, its me being lil confused these days ;)
[20:52] <tsaknorris> BarkingFish:  lol yeah
[20:53] <asdasd> hey
[20:53] <asdasd> if ubunjtu is so easy to use why are there 1500+ people here?
[20:53] <genii-around> asdasd: The helpers have to come from someplace.
[20:54] <asdasd> =)
[20:54] <compilerwriter> fdisk -l still returns nothing DasEi1
[20:55] <zykotick9> compilerwriter, you need to use "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:55] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: drive attached , and with run with sudo ?
[20:56] <compilerwriter> sudo fdisk still returns nothing
[20:56] <gigenieks> OK I installed gparted.
[20:57] <gigenieks> DasEi1: there is only 1 drive (Xubuntu partion) no USb to format.
[20:58] <DasEi1> gigenieks: see above, choose in upper right corner
[20:58] <compilerwriter> I had done a /bin/bash and was running as root so I thought the sudo to be superfluous.  but I did exit that shell and try "sudo fdisk -l" and still got nothing.  Does that mean the computer itself is not recognizing the hard disk is connected to the hard drive?
[20:58] <gigenieks> DasEi1: I tried.
[20:58] <gigenieks> that
[20:58] <JosephRuby> is there a way to have a folder show all sub-folders by default so that I don't haveto ctrl+h each time I open my home folder?
[20:58] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: seems like
[20:59] <xeqache> need help installing x64 flash plugin
[20:59] <compilerwriter> So then my next option is to see if the platter is any good by going to a shop
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> xeqache: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/64bit-flash-ppa/
[21:00] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: how many drives does the box have ? just one internal and the external ?
[21:00] <robuciic> hey, ubuntu users. i'm your friend
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> xeqache: be sure you have no other flash plugins installed
[21:02] <robuciic> upgraded from 11.04 to 10 .. there was flash player plugin installer failure. and now i am not able to install it after upgrade is done as well. what to do?
[21:02] <IdleOne> robuciic: 11.10 in #ubuntu+1
[21:03] <gr33n7007h> Yo any1 know how 2 stream youtube videos to vlc in ubuntu linux?
[21:03] <cyphase> JosephRuby, you mean show hidden files and folders by default?
[21:04] <cyphase> JosephRuby, in any nautilus window, go to Edit -> Preferences, then check "Show hidden and backup files"
[21:04] <racho> or just press Ctrl+H
[21:04] <JosephRuby> cyphase, yes that is what I mean
[21:06] <cyphase> racho, he doesn't want to have to do it every time
[21:06] <JosephRuby> cyphase, ty that worked.
[21:06] <compilerwriter> Currently DasEi1 the box has one hard drive a CD-ROM drive and a usb CD-ROM drive that is currently running a live 11.04 Ubuntu cd.
[21:06] <cyphase> JosephRuby, you're welcome :)
[21:07] <gigenieks> So what now?
[21:07] <gigenieks> im stuck with that USB issue
[21:07] <Ronald_> When will Ubuntu support Gnome 3?
[21:07] <gigenieks> If cant get it fixed I would need to reformat Xubuntu to XP...
[21:07] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: so you'll probably want to mount /dev/sda1
[21:08] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:08] <DasEi1> Ronald : it's not supported here, but on your own risk and have it from a ppa (better try in a vm first)
[21:09] <Ronald_> DasEi1 but will it be supported in the future? The sidebar is driving me to madness!
[21:09] <boskee> Hello
[21:09] <elspru> how do I view the kernel source code?
[21:10] <deadpool> hey guys I updated some software yesterday and now eclipse won't work for me, is there anyway I can do something like a system restore? and get back to yesterday
[21:10] <DasEi1> Ronald_: welcome to club ; not that I new, but you can also have lubuntu,xubuntu and so on
[21:10] <deadpool> I didn't do any backups, I have been in ubuntu like for a 5 days
[21:10] <elspru> I would suggest voiding doing updates in future
[21:10] <curiousx> elspru: ls /usr/src
[21:11] <dweez> sidebar is still there in Gnome 3
[21:11] <curiousx> elspru: ls /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.3X
[21:11] <DasEi1> Ronald_ for now you can switch to classic
[21:11] <bombadil_rocks> deadpool - not really
[21:11] <boskee> I have a problem with Oneiric, where I receive random keyup press events that prevent me from working on ubuntu. Those events affect whole system (not only the active window) and I can't find a source of that problem. Can anyone help me?
[21:11] <DasEi1> !classic
[21:11] <Ronald_> dweez that one I love
[21:11] <dweez> I'm running Gnome 3 on 11.10
[21:11] <elspru> curiousx: I can't find mm/mmap.c
[21:12] <dweez> It's not the most stablest (I know, not a word) thing but it doesn't crash the box
[21:12] <deadpool> I get this error when I try to run eclipse  /usr/bin/xulrunner-2.0: not found
[21:12] <curiousx> elspru: locate mmap.c
[21:12] <deadpool> anyone konw what that means
[21:12] <compilerwriter> /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab is what I get when I tried mount /dev/sda
[21:12] <Ronald_> dweez is it supported and stable?
[21:12] <curiousx> in my case give me ---> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.38/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
[21:12] <bombadil_rocks> deadpool, do you have xulrunner installed?
[21:12] <gigenieks> right now I can't even mount that USB it shows error: "Daemon is inhibited."
[21:13] <dweez> No, it's not currently supported
[21:13] <curiousx> and /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.39.4/mm/mmap.c
[21:13] <gigenieks> Guys - help me plz.
[21:13] <dweez> and like I said, i get some app crash reports, but very infrequently and nothing "show stopper"
[21:13] <deadpool> I would assume I mean I had eclipse working yesterday
[21:13] <yeats> deadpool: it means that the (correct version of xulrunner) is not installed
[21:13] <Ronald_> dweez but it will be when the stable of 11.10 comes out?
[21:13] <deadpool> how would I get the correct version
[21:13] <yeats> !info xulrunner-2.0
[21:13] <deadpool> I probably got another version while I was updating yesterday
[21:13] <dweez> I'm not sure but I don't think they are going for Gnome 3 support by release time of 11.10
[21:13] <compilerwriter> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab  is what I got in response to mount command DasEi1
[21:14] <yeats> deadpool: 'sudo apt-get install xulrunner-2.0'
[21:14] <raven_> anything fills up my hdd - how to find out what this is??
[21:14] <gr33n7007h> how can i broadcast a message not using wall command?
[21:14] <Ronald_> dweez otherwise I have to learn to work with Fedore. That is not what I want but hmm I just love the new Gnome 3
[21:15] <Ronald_> Fedora
[21:15] <deadpool> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:15] <yeats> gr33n7007h: why not use 'wall'? just wondering...
[21:15] <deadpool> is google chrome using it?
[21:15] <dweez> is this a critical box for you Ronald_?
[21:15] <bombadil_rocks> raven_ use baobab, I forget where in the menu it is
[21:15] <xangua> deadpool: close synaptic/software centre
[21:15] <DasEi1> raven_: install gnome-utils, use baobab
[21:15] <gr33n7007h> because i want to pipe to screen
[21:15] <deadpool> it is closed
[21:16] <raven_> DasEi1, i need anything what shows me open files
[21:16] <Ronald_> dweez hmm not realy but I like to work on a system that does the job easy
[21:16] <deadpool> I am going to close chrome and see if it works
[21:16] <DasEi1> deadpool: trying to use cmd-line while synaptic or another manager open ?
[21:16] <dweez> well, Gnome 3 seems to be in the regular oneiric repos
[21:17] <gigenieks> Last time am I wasting my time here?
[21:17] <dweez> I just did "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" and let it do the magic
[21:17] <deadpool> well I don't see anything open
[21:17] <dweez> but anyway, gotta run.  Good luck Ronald_
[21:17] <deadpool> only chrome and terminal
[21:17] <gigenieks> I need to know, if so - go elsewhere or reformet to XP where I can do that simple thing
[21:17] <curiousx> take it easy gigenieks we do aur best =P
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> dweez: oneiric is supported and discussed in #ubuntu+1
[21:17] <Ronald_> dweez Thanks!
[21:17] <Ronald_> dweez I think about it for a while
[21:18] <dweez> ActionParsnip, thanks, but we weren't discussing Oneiric per se, but rather Gnome 3...my apologies
[21:18] <DasEi1> !aptlock | deadpool
[21:18] <gr33n7007h> deadpool -- sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[21:18] <raven_> anything fills up my hdd - how to find out what this is??
[21:18] <gigenieks> curiousx: sure I know, but it is kinda emergency and it seems that noone knows what is solution to my issue so I need to know that, so i can go google or just reformeat (X)Ubuntu. ;)
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> dweez: gnome3 also is offtopic, sorry :(
[21:18] <deadpool> k
[21:19] <bombadil_rocks> raven_ install gnome-utils, then type baobab into the termenal
[21:19] <Ronald_> dweez for now I go back to classic mode
[21:19] <yeats> deadpool: I wouldn't remove the lock until I knew what process is using it
[21:19] <curiousx> gigenieks: what is the issue ?
[21:19] <Ronald_> I hate Unity to much
[21:19] <bombadil_rocks> it will allow you to search your hardrive and show you disk usuage per folder
[21:21] <gigenieks> curiousx: before I could access (Xubuntu automatically mounted my USB flash), BUT i could copy anything to it (because i previously deleted files which stayted in trash) So we managed to delete them but now I can't access USB (it doesnt mount automatically as it used to do) I get errror: "Daemon is inhibited"
[21:21] <gigenieks> *couldn't copy*
[21:22] <raven_> anything fills up my hdd - how to find out what this is??
[21:22] <compilerwriter> DasEi1: have you any other ideas?
[21:23] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: no, if the drive isn't recognized, can't mount it
[21:23] <compilerwriter> How do I tell empathy I don't really care to see all the join/leave messages?
[21:23] <xangua> compilerwriter: try another client, empathy is very limited for irc
[21:24] <compilerwriter> DasEi1: So then all I have left is to see if I can mount  the platter in a new housing.
[21:24] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: on lifecd can use xchat which is not so heavy in ressources
[21:25] <DasEi1> compilerwriter: yes
[21:25] <SaidKLE> Question: I can't get apache2 and php to recognize the pg_connect() command, even after installing php5-pgsql module.  Any ideas?
[21:26] <}[o0]{> is it just me or is network manager perpertually problematic? it takes over an hour to get reconnected to a new AP when I switch. syslog reports failed association to driver over and over..
[21:27] <curiousx> gigenieks: your fstab is good ?
[21:27] <raven_> WOW 20GB syslog file because of USB-Errors...
[21:27] <bombadil_rocks> }[o0]{, there is something wrong w/ your drivers, or networkmanager or the physical hardware
[21:27] <bombadil_rocks> raven_, damn, that sucks
[21:29] <celestius> what do you call/what package is responsible for/how can i google for more info on how to hack the little mail icon in the top right corner, that integrates with empathy and evolution by default?
[21:29] <xangua> celestius: how about you try to make a clear question¿ ;)
[21:30] <}[o0]{> no. since I am here now..it's not likely, bombadil_rocks. just to check i purged nm, installed wicd...and no problem. so i switch everything back.
[21:30] <celestius> xangua: do you know which icon i'm talking about?
[21:31] <gigenieks> curiousx: what is the command?
[21:31] <gigenieks> ls fstab?
[21:31] <}[o0]{> problem for the next hour. so this says "hi...my implementation is bad.", bombadil_rocks.
[21:31] <celestius> bombadil_rocks is it true that his songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster?
[21:31] <curiousx> gigenieks: nop
[21:31] <}[o0]{> someone needs to look at that because the number of forum posts seems to keep growing with the same complaints.
[21:32] <onder> Hi everybody.
[21:32] <curiousx> i found in da forum that a user solved it with just "sudo killall udisks"
[21:32] <curiousx> gigenieks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604563&page=3
[21:34] <bombadil_rocks> }[o0]{, I don't know about that but taking an hour to connect to an ap is a sign something is wrong
[21:34] <}[o0]{> orly. lol.
[21:34] <}[o0]{> okay...leaving with the usual lack of an answer to a COMMON PROBLEM. thanks :)
[21:34] <bombadil_rocks> celestius: yes it is
[21:34] <DasEi1> raven_: http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/logrotate8.html
[21:36] <iron_bear> how do i change the window menu in unity from the top of the screen to inside each window???
[21:38] <raven_> DasEi now i deleted the logfile but there comes no free space with it and i cannot delete the file also in trash - what possible now?
[21:38] <gigenieks> curiousx: now USb is mounted but I can't copy to it.
[21:38] <gigenieks> anything
[21:38] <gigenieks> seems like I dont have permissions or something
[21:39] <gigenieks> right click > "paste" option is grayed out..
[21:40] <DasEi1> sudo chown -R YOURusernameHere /path/Mountpoint (mount shows the folder)
[21:40] <gigenieks> Yes, I was right "properties" > permissions tab "owner: root" everything else grayed out in GUI view (if u get what I mean)
[21:40] <DasEi1> sudo chown -R YOURusernameHere /path/Mountpoint (mount shows the folder) ,gigenieks
[21:40] <skie> looking for some help with getting a fresh ubuntu 10.04 install to connect to my wired home network.
[21:41] <scwizard> after I've apt-getted a package, is there any way for me to see where its installed itself?
[21:41] <skie> (also, I'm pretty much a total *nix newbie, so bear(bare?) with me here)
[21:41] <scwizard> the package I'm hunting for in this case is default-jdk
[21:41] <DasEi1> raven_: df -h shows no change and you removed it from trash ?
[21:42] <raven_> DasEi1, yes removed it via sudo rm
[21:42] <DasEi1> raven_: so space will be there
[21:43] <raven_> DasEi1, df does not change
[21:43] <gigenieks> DasEi1: finally!!! Seems that we fixed this weird thing... :)
[21:43] <DasEi1> !yay | lol
[21:44] <upwardindex> I've been searching for a while now but I can't seem to find what causes the installation of mariadb-server-5.3 to fail
[21:45] <robin0800> deadpool, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade is your friend
[21:46] <gigenieks> So to wrap it up: 1) delete hidden trash folder in mounted place 2) I got that wierd "Daemon is inhibited" error which was fixed with "sudo killall udisks" now I could mount USB again, then 3)get right permissions with sudo chown -R 4) copy what u need. Seems in that order we did that.
[21:46] <deadpool> robin0800 I run that command?
[21:46] <deadpool> ok it is updating some stuff
[21:47] <D_Russ> is there a way to set thunderbird as my default email client, meaning get rid of evolution on the system tray and have it open thunderbird when i click the envelope?
[21:48] <deadpool> anyone tried to remove the start up sound?
[21:48] <Trashi> hi. i got a kubuntu question. by default in kde exists an "grid desktop"-layout which im missing in (k)ubuntu... does anybody know how to enable?
[21:48] <upwardindex> MariaDB simply refuses to start and nothing in dmesg, any idea where errors could be logged?
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> D_Russ: gnome-control-center, preferred applications
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/mozilla-thunderbird-email-notification-in-ubuntu-get-green-indicator-and-gnome-libnotify-popup-for-new-mail/
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> deadpool: I just set my sound theme to none and it works
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> D_Russ: forget what i say, 11.04 is unity
[21:49] <D_Russ> yeah i am using 11.04 MonkeyDust
[21:51] <D_Russ> Thankyou ActionParsnip
[21:52] <racho> maybe 11.10 should be called Masturbating Monkey. Linus would be pleased ;)
[21:55] <magma> for when ubuntu 11.10?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> magma: next month
[21:55] <enchilado> ...
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> magma: look at the version number, then think about it ;)
[21:55] <enchilado> This month
[21:55] <enchilado> :P
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> oh yeah, its october now
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> my bad
[21:56] <KM0201> only a few more days
[21:56] <magma> oh ok
[21:56] <enchilado> magma: http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/
[21:56] <magma> lol
[21:56] <magma> cool
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> magma: the version numbers are related to the year and month released
[21:57] <KM0201> a whole new world,. a whole new computer?.. boy thats big expectations
[21:57] <KM0201> lol
[21:57] <magma> yes, but I wanted to know the day
[21:57] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: do you know where to download the lubuntu 11.10 beta?... i'm not really interested in unity in any format (2d or 3d)
[21:58] <Scunizi> I'm getting tired of sneaker net on one machine (desktop 10.10).  It can't see the network ie. other machines, NAS etc.  Other machines are a mix of 11.04 & XP, NAS is off the Netgear router.  Other Ubuntu machines *can* see the network.  SMBFS is installed.  Where do I look for a solution?
[21:58] <dr_willis> KM0201:  You could always use the minimal cd, and install lubuntu-desktop on top of it.
[21:59] <KM0201> dr_willis: to much hassle, i just wann atry it in vbox.
[21:59] <manizzle> what is the ubuntu package for db4.2
[21:59] <manizzle> or libdb4.2
[21:59] <zromayn> hello there. i just install dhcp3 in my ubuntu server 11.04. from documentation it states that i need to edit the file /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf I don't seem to find that file anywhere. have I missed something?
[21:59] <manizzle> i tried to apt-get install both of them
[21:59] <dr_willis> KM0201:  lubuntu is often behind in releaseing the spefici lubuntu isos
[21:59] <manizzle> both try to install ruby
[21:59] <KM0201> Scunizi: just out of curiosity, have you tried booting an 11.04 live cd on that machine, to see if the network card gets recognized on the next version?
[22:00] <junior> quick question for anyone who knows. I want to stream line my kernel in 11.10 Beta 2, and need to know how I can get ther kernel source considering kernel.org is down for extended "maintenance"
[22:00] <xangua> !oneiric | junior
[22:00] <KM0201> dr_willis: i figured.. no big deal... i'm pretty happy w/ 11.10
[22:00] <Scunizi> KM0201, nope.. but was thinking of upgrading to 11.04 shortly.. are there issues with the network cards?
[22:00] <junior> ty
[22:01] <KM0201> Scunizi: well, if it can't get online, that's the first thing i would check... seems yours isn't being recognized (assuming all else is ok)... i'd try booting an 11.04 live CD, and see if it gets online...
[22:01] <KM0201> Scunizi: no point in trying to "upgrade" a system that isn't working properly... do a clean install.
[22:01] <Scunizi> KM0201, It's on the net.. just can't see the LAN
[22:02] <KM0201> Scunizi:  so it can get online, but it just can't see other machines that are on the LAN... ther ewas a bug in10.10 samba... can't remember what it was.. (di9dn't effect me, but i saw a post about it)
[22:03] <pooltable> when was Oneiric Ocelot relase date change ??
[22:03] <skie> any thoughts on a working ethernet connection... just not working?
[22:03] <KM0201> Scunizi: read bryanl's post
[22:03] <KM0201> http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=74228
[22:03] <skie> I've tested the connection with my laptop, and it works
[22:03] <skie> and I've been promised that before installing ubuntu on the machine, the machine had connectivity
[22:03] <Scunizi> KM0201, yea.. something about restarting smb's two underlying systems.. however I don't have samba installed, just smbfs which is suppose to activate LAN shares from what I understand.  Where's bryanl's post? I don't see it in the history
[22:04] <KM0201> Scunizi: read the link i posted.
[22:04] <pooltable> when was Oneiric Ocelot relase date change ??
[22:04] <Scunizi> KM0201, ah.. missed the link 'cause it didn't highlight.. sorry 'bout that.
[22:05] <KM0201> Scunizi: it was my fault, i meant to put it all on one line
[22:05] <KM0201> dr_willis: looks like lubuntu is still on beta 2.. so yeah, they are lagging a bit, but i'll try the live cd in vbox
[22:09] <pooltable> is ubuntu the only linux os that easy to update???
[22:10] <manizzle> lol pooltable
[22:10] <ruub> hi, i just made a dualboot with ubuntu two times. 10.04 . i can start up the new one i added. but the one that was already longer time on this computer i dont see in grub. what can i do about that?
[22:11] <pooltable> manizzle i just asking here soor if i am new
[22:13] <dangertux> ruub - under the Ubuntu you can get to, mount the partition that the other install is on (e.g:  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt) then do (sudo update-grub) it should add the original one to the bootloader , make sure you change your partition as necessary for the correct installation.
[22:14] <ruub> okay i try reboot now. thnx brb
[22:16] <ruub> hm.. didnt help :/
[22:17] <skie> any idea why a wired ethernet connection (that has been tested and shown to work on a different machine) wouldn't work on a fresh 10.04 install?
[22:17] <KM0201> ruub: do you have a current live cd?
[22:17] <ruub> meaby its the problem that i didnt make more partisions. i did just do; instal side by side
[22:17] <ruub> yep i have a livecd
[22:18] <KM0201> !grub2 | ruub
[22:18] <KM0201> ruub: follow the "restore grub" instructions
[22:18] <tvaldes> Can someone help me run CD/DVD creator as root in 10.04? "gksudo nautilus --no-default-window --no-desktop burn:///" isn't working, and it did in older versions... Thanks!
[22:18] <ruub> i never do annything with windows
[22:18] <KM0201> tvaldes: why on earth would you rnt hat as root?
[22:19] <tvaldes> backup purposes. Have to burn files for users that don't even exist on the backup server, only on production server
[22:19] <tvaldes> and have to preserve permissions
[22:20] <musl> tvaldes: why not run tar or rsync or something as root, creating an archive and then burn that as a normal user?
[22:20] <tvaldes> And Gnomebaker won't let me burn DVD's if the directory structure is too deep, even if the 'force' checkbox is checked
[22:20] <dangertux> ruub : make sure you know what partition your other install is on otherwise grub will not be able to detect it.  sudo fdisk -l can list your partitions if you don't know.
[22:20] <Bokator> des francais ici ?!!!
[22:20] <ruub> i didnt make more partisions
[22:20] <glebihan> tvaldes, the correct command would be "gksudo nautilus --no-desktop burn:///"
[22:20] <ruub> i just did side by side
[22:20] <glebihan> !fr | Bokator
[22:20] <Bokator> pas de francais ?
[22:21] <tvaldes> THe tar would be larger than 4Gb, which isnt allowed by the DVD format (joliet I think?)
[22:21] <dangertux> ruub - if you did side by side, more partitions were still created, they were just created automatically.
[22:21] <ruub> okay
[22:21] <ruub> the one you gave before was this one i use now then
[22:22] <ruub> what can i try?
[22:22] <musl> What about a format that supports multi-part archives, and what about something like par2 that can include redundancy info because you're storing it on a potentially lossy channel (DVDs)
[22:22] <tvaldes> glebihan: "gksudo nautilus --no-desktop burn:///" didn't work. Neither does "gksudo nautilus burn:///"
[22:22] <KM0201> ruub: so you've already tried using boot repair?
[22:22]  * musl digresses
[22:22] <dangertux> ruub - I am not understanding what you're asking.
[22:22] <bombadil_rocks> tvaldes, try using tar.7z if you can, it perserves permisions and supports spliting the archive up
[22:22] <ruub> there was something i did before rebooting
[22:22] <ruub> uhm
[22:23] <ruub> it was uhm a way to mount uhm
[22:23] <ruub> the partision
[22:23] <KM0201> 1st... did you install an actual dual boot, or did you install with Wubi (install ubuntu inside windows)
[22:23] <ruub> no
[22:23] <tvaldes> bombadil_rocks: Alright, I guess archiving will be the way to go then. Thanks!
[22:23] <ruub> i hate windows
[22:23] <KM0201> ruub: ok, so boot the live CD, then come back here.
[22:23] <musl> tvaldes: Check out PAR2. It may save your arse.
[22:23] <ruub> okay
[22:23] <Polah> bombadil_rocks: tar supports permission preservations
[22:25] <s3r3n1t7> For some odd reason, i can't run executables from the shell. It's made executable, it's in the right folder, it's written the correct way (i completed it with tab), but it's complaining that it can't find the file or directory
[22:25] <bombadil_rocks> try ./executable name
[22:26] <s3r3n1t7> that's exactly what i'm trying bombadil_rocks, and exactly what's complaining that it can't find the file
[22:26] <s3r3n1t7> odd thing is, i can run chmod on the file just fine and i'm running it under my own user
[22:26] <qin> s3r3n1t7: Do you own it?
[22:26] <s3r3n1t7> qin, yup
[22:26] <iceroot> s3r3n1t7: ls -all on that dir please
[22:26] <tvaldes> musl: Thanks, I'll check it out
[22:27] <iron_bear> how do i change the window menu in unity from the top of the screen to inside each window???
[22:27] <Ruub> now here from my netbook
[22:27] <s3r3n1t7> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/701964/
[22:28] <KM0201> Ruub: now, open a terminal on that machine and type sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[22:28] <Ruub> its still bussy starting up the livecd
[22:28] <KM0201> Ruub: oh ok.
[22:29] <glebihan> s3r3n1t7, try installing the "lsb-core" package
[22:30] <s3r3n1t7> glebihan, will try, hold on ...
[22:30] <s3r3n1t7> glebihan, that worked, thanks!
[22:30] <TheLawnmowerMan> Can anybody give me a hand?  I've got no sound coming out of my Ubuntu box.  When I run 'lspci -v | grep "Audio device"' I see imgur.com/0sJMa although I can clearly see a device in my sound preferences http://imgur.com/aCw2u.  I do see some information about my sound device - paste.ubuntu.com/701853/  Any suggestions?
[22:31] <glebihan> s3r3n1t7, you're welcome
[22:31] <Corey> !sound
[22:31] <Corey> TheLawnmowerMan: That may help.
[22:31] <Ruub> E: couldnt  find package boot-repair
[22:32] <Faris> Hi! Is it possible to play music on a server over SSH ?
[22:32] <Ruub> thats what i get now
[22:32] <g0rs> Hello, is there any application for cpu frequency scaling in the latest version of ubuntu? I have have some apps but they dont seem to work . I was looking for an application with which we can select the clock frequenccy or clock speed of processor(s) on the desktop. Can anybody comment?
[22:32] <TheLawnmowerMan> Corey: I've seen the community sound troubleshooting before and can get to step six.  I know that this sound card works because it worked when this machine had windows on it.
[22:33] <KM0201> Ruub: is the machine ont he internet?
[22:33] <iron_bear> how do i change the window menu in unity from the top of the screen to inside each window???
[22:33] <Ruub> yeah its on internet
[22:33] <xangua> g0rs: there is a cpufreq 'indicator' if that is your question
[22:33] <KM0201> Ruub: open synaptic package manager
[22:33] <xangua> lots of indicator stuff on the omg!ubuntu! blog ;)
[22:33] <g0rs> xangua: i have installed but it doesn't work. Do you know where to find it in a repository?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[22:34] <xangua> not that i spam or is the only blog about ubuntu, but really good articles
[22:34] <Ruub> okay and install it from there?
[22:34] <xangua> !cpufreq
[22:34] <KM0201> well, first, click settings/repositories
[22:34] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: Natty
[22:34] <xangua> grrr what whas the factoid to configure cpufreq¿¿ give it to g0rs ;)
[22:34] <Faris> I got music on my Linux Desktop and I want to remotely make it play music from my laptop. Is that possible over SSH ?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> g0rs: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-change-cpu-frequency-scaling-in-ubuntu.html
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Faris: sure, connect with:  ssh -X username@server
[22:35] <KM0201> Ruub: n software sources, make sure all the boxes on the first two tabs (ubuntu software, and other software) are checked... then click close, and click reload
[22:35] <KM0201> then search for boot-repair
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Faris: the apps will display on the client, but the sound will come out of the serve
[22:35] <Faris> Oh by the way my desktop has no X server, it's console only
[22:35] <Faris> but has audio drivers
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Faris: could use mplayer than, or vlc-nox
[22:36] <Faris> mplayer can't load audio drivers :s
[22:36] <jsharpminor> Hi, I need help!!!!!   I think I just removed myself from sudoers using usermod -G. I was trying to add myself to vboxusers, but now I'm not allowed to sudo or su. Is there a default root password for Ubuntu, or some way for me to add myself back to the sudoers?
[22:36] <Faris> I can't even run alsamixer voer SSH :(
[22:36] <g0rs> ActionParsnip: the cpu indicator application is not available for installation
[22:37] <Faris> mplayer can't load audio drivers over SSH that is
[22:37] <Faris> But does work perfectly otherwise
[22:37] <synapse> Is it possible to archive/zip/tar a fakeroot environment?
[22:37] <Ruub> hm
[22:37] <Ruub> it dont seem  to find annything
[22:38] <Ruub> oh reload
[22:38] <jsharpminor> I already tried to apt-get install fakeroot, but it needs sudo / root priviliges, and it tells me mine are invalid.
[22:39] <qin> Faris: With vlc you have more chances to stream audio, but not via ssh.
[22:39] <matrox85> hello
[22:39] <Faris> I don't want to stream music
[22:40] <Ruub> i checked all things in software sources
[22:40] <Faris> I want to play what's on the Desktop
[22:40] <Ruub> and then?
[22:40] <KM0201> Ruub: do a search in synaptic for "boot-repair" (after you reload of course)
[22:40] <Ruub> i did
[22:40] <qin> Faris: In general, ssh is not sreaming protocol, vlc comes with streaming server.
[22:40] <Ruub> found nothing
[22:41] <jsharpminor> Hi, I need help!!!!!   I think I just removed myself from sudoers using usermod -G. I was trying to add myself to vboxusers, but now I'm not allowed to sudo or su. Is there a default root password for Ubuntu, or some way for me to add myself back to the sudoers?
[22:41] <matrox85> hello
[22:41] <KM0201> Ruub: what version is the live cd?
[22:41] <matrox85> ragazzi
[22:41] <matrox85> parlate
[22:41] <matrox85> italiano
[22:41] <Ruub> 10.04
[22:41] <KM0201> Ruub: thats why.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> jsharpminor: boot to root recovery mode and you can add yourself to the admin group again
[22:42] <Ruub> its what  i installed
[22:42] <KM0201> Ruub: well, 10.04 doesn't have boot-repair
[22:42] <jsharpminor> ActionParsnip: does that require a recovery disk, or should that be one of the options already in GRUB?
[22:43] <KM0201> Ruub: can we chat privately, cuz you dont' !tab and i can't keep track of you
[22:43] <Ruub> hm
[22:43] <iron_bear> how do i change the window menu in unity from the top of the screen to inside each window???
[22:44] <Faris> I just figured out a way to do it
[22:44] <qin> Faris: I am interested.
[22:44] <Faris> I ran a mocp beforehand
[22:44] <Faris> and then I could do anything related through SSH
[22:45] <Faris> mocp being a console music player
[22:45] <matrox85> someone help me please???
[22:45] <Faris> of course u must be logged as the user that's running mocp
[22:45] <Islam> how do I stop the recently opened files from recording that ?
[22:45] <g0rs> matrox85: ask you question in channel
[22:45] <qin> uhmm..?
[22:46] <synapse> Is it possible to archive/zip/tar a fakeroot environment?
[22:46] <MrNibbles> hey guys, i remember reading a while ago that there is a flag for screen which lets you just view the current user rather than interact with it
[22:46] <MrNibbles> anyone remember this flag :/
[22:46] <matrox85> I'm sorry I'm new and do not speak English well
[22:47] <Islam> does any body know how to stop the recntly used files from recording ?
[22:47] <iron_bear> hello??
[22:47] <g0rs> xangua: cpu selector/indicator is not working
[22:47] <sloof3> Is it even possible to do-release-upgrade from 8.10 anymore?
[22:48] <sloof3> -server
[22:49] <Islam> any body here ?
[22:49] <bombadil_rocks> yes
[22:49] <matrox85> I need to install a virtual machine from windows7 ..... import files from windows7 just ask me a file OVF ... but the vmware files are formatted differently .... unconvertitore know this type of format
[22:49] <anderson> AJ_Z0,  helow
[22:49] <iron_bear> how do i change the window menu in unity from the top of the screen to inside each window???
[22:50] <g0rs> matrox85: did you try virtual box from oracle?
[22:50] <matrox85> no
[22:50] <matrox85> yes yes
[22:50] <matrox85> oracle virtual bix
[22:50] <matrox85> box
[22:51] <g0rs> matrox85: it seems to work
[22:51] <gr33n7007h> Is there a program or command to use a screensaver as desktop background ?
[22:51] <mikd> how do i get KDE
[22:52] <matrox85> asks me to import the file format OVF
[22:52] <xangua> mikd: sudo apt-geet install kubuntu-desktop
[22:52] <matrox85> I can not convert
[22:52] <xangua> mikd:  or download kubuntu and clean install
[22:52] <g0rs> mikd: try apt-get ?
[22:53] <Islam> does any body know how to stop the recent files to stop recording ?
[22:54] <mikd> ok! thanks
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> gr33n7007h: xvidwinwrap
[22:54] <Scunizi> matrox85, I think vbox will import vmware files direct if I'm not mistaken.. Check vbox's site for instructions on doing that or converting the file
[22:54] <th0r1> Islam: that question makes no sense
[22:54] <matrox85> I try to look at the site but that alone does not do anything
[22:55] <iron_bear> how do i change the the menus in unity from the  global application menu to inside each window??
[22:55] <Islam> when you open the files and folders from the launcher it showes the recent opened files, how do I stop it
[22:55] <qin> Islam: By real effort I got you likewise: Disable recent files, so: http://ubuntuguide.net/clear-and-disable-recent-documents-list-on-ubuntu-gnome
[22:55] <gr33n7007h> or thanks alot ActionParsnip ;)
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> gr33n7007h: http://www.khattam.info/howto-video-wallpaper-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-2010-02-15.html
[22:56] <atdprhs> hi
[22:56] <Islam> thanx qin but thats now what I have
[22:56] <atdprhs> I need to clear my grub list on my ubuntu installed on the external hard drive
[22:57] <Islam> I've ubuntu 11.04
[22:57] <gr33n7007h> cheers man thanks for that ;P
[22:57] <atdprhs> because it shows the other operating systems on the internal hard drive
[22:58] <atdprhs> I remember I knew there was a specific command for it on terminal, anyone can help?
[22:58] <Islam> some one here gave me a command before that stoped that thing from recording
[22:58] <qin> Islam: http://ubuntuguide.net/clearprevent-recent-documents-under-files-folders-in-ubuntu-unity
[22:59] <Islam> qin : thanx thats what I was talkin about
[22:59] <Islam> thanx mate
[22:59] <atdprhs> anyone knows how I can make my grub loader to show only OS installed on the hard drive not any other attached hard drive?
[23:00] <qin> Islam: Welcome, buddy.
[23:00] <g0rs> atdprhs: usually external drives have a drive id like sda or sdb whereas your internal drives are named hda, hdb and hdc
[23:01] <g0rs> atdprhs: if youare new to this, why not remove external drives when you are naming partitions ?
[23:01] <atdprhs> yes q0rs, but i want the grub loader on that external drive to only have the OS in it
[23:02] <g0rs> atdprhs: you can connect an external drive and see its name or drive id
[23:02] <atdprhs> I installed ubuntu on that external hard drive and already using it now from that external hard drive
[23:02] <tvaldes> I'm having trouble with K3b in Ubuntu 10.04. I get the error: k3b did not find any optical device in your system. Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices. Running lshal shows the burner... Any ideas?
[23:03] <atdprhs> but I don't want that ubuntu on that external hard drive to see other operating systems on the other machine
[23:03] <g0rs> atdprhs: do you want to install the bootloader on an external drive and os files on your internal hard drive?
[23:04] <atdprhs> no
[23:04] <atdprhs> when I installed ubuntu on that External HDD, it loaded and identified the other OS on the internal HDD
[23:05] <atdprhs> my problem is that if I used that E. HDD on another computer, it will ask me to choose between the operating systems which are already not installed on that other machine
[23:05] <atdprhs> So I don't need the other OS on that E. DHD
[23:05] <atdprhs> HDD*
[23:06] <qin> !grub2
[23:06] <atdprhs> noooo qin
[23:07] <iron_bear> how do i change the the menus in unity from the  global application menu to inside each window??
[23:07] <atdprhs> I remember I came here before for that problem and somebody gave me a command to fix it
[23:07] <iron_bear> anyone?? ffs you'd think 1 of 1463 ppl would know
[23:07] <atdprhs> what I need is to remove the other links to the other operating systems on that grub loader on my external HDD
[23:08] <KM0201> iron_bear: you'd think you'd be greatful that 1463 people read your question
[23:08] <bsmith093> im using openoffice, how do i remove numbers that occur on a line by themselves, because apparently this "\n\d+\n" minus the quotes isnt working
[23:08] <jen_> qustion
[23:08] <iron_bear> KM0201, sorry, I'm just having one of those days
[23:08] <KM0201> iron_bear: it happens
[23:08] <atdprhs> g0rs, any idea?
[23:09] <atdprhs> any help any one?
[23:10] <g0rs> atdprhs: it is a bit complicated, if i were you , i would read the manuals or tutorials on grub and linux before attempting it
[23:10] <g0rs> atdprhs: i dont its details as of now, i have to look them up.
[23:11] <atdprhs> would it be ok if I removed the other links manually from the menu file?
[23:11] <Toidi> Good afternoon everyone
[23:12] <daavis> hey
[23:12] <daavis> where is ubuntu 'theme' folder?
[23:13] <Toidi> One of the guys here thought he would lend a hand and move our NAS server (running ubuntu LTS 10.04 desktop) and plugged it while running. When booting it can no longer mount the tmp partition what would be the best way to fix this?
[23:13] <Toidi> unplugged*
[23:13] <dentych> Hello fine people
[23:15] <dentych> I have a problem - my fan is running at a very high and very disturbing speed at all times. I tried sensors-detect, and managed to get a fine list of information when executing sensors. My problem, though, is that I can't seem to make fancontrol work - I tried using pwmconfig, but it says that there are no modules available, which seems weird based on the fact that I can see both the CPU fan AND
[23:15] <dentych> the CHASSIS1 FAn
[23:15] <dentych> Do you have any idea on what to do?
[23:18] <atdprhs> alright, I fixed my problem but I have another weird problem
[23:18] <atdprhs> why does it say right before loading the grub loader, it says error invalid environment blok?
[23:18] <atdprhs> block*
[23:25] <Chwoka> hey 160 gb is enough, right?
[23:25] <Toidi> Chwoka, for?
[23:26] <Toidi> My / uses about 10gb (minus /home which is on another partition)
[23:26] <Chwoka> nevermind, found the ubuntu sys rq page just after that
[23:26] <Chwoka> oh man, partitions actually work on ubuntu?
[23:26] <Chwoka> time to crack out partitionmagic 95!!!
[23:26] <Toidi> Partition magic? heh
[23:27] <Toidi> I would use gparted or the installer partition manager
[23:27] <Chwoka> but we bought PartitionMagic and it stopped working at XP but now we get to get our money's worth again
[23:28] <Toidi> I didn't know PM supported ext4 :P
[23:28] <Chwoka> joke's on you, progress!
[23:28] <Chwoka> 1995 where it at.
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Chwoka: why bother, ubuntu can manage partitions well
[23:29] <Hilikus> is it possible to password protect a website in apache only if the client is in a certain IP range? i.e. outside of my LAN
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: you could use iptables to only allow connections to the port from certain IPs
[23:31] <Hilikus> ActionParsnip: no, i want to allow everyone to connect, but ask for a password if you're not in my lan
[23:31] <Fudge> any noise cancelling software for mics on ubuntu
[23:31] <qin> Fudge: audacity ?
[23:31] <Chwoka> is there any known conflict with ubuntu and amd processors, because i hear amd is a real sack of sacks.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: not sure there (personally) dude
[23:33] <Fudge> qin more like something that can filter background noise when im on push to talk
[23:33] <atdprhs> can anyone help me about how to "Add ‘ppa:n-muench/burg’ to your Software Sources"
[23:33] <Scunizi> Chwoka, no issues here.. but also running nvidia video card
[23:34] <Chwoka> Scunizi: well so am i, so cool
[23:34] <Scunizi> Chwoka, so what's your worries?
[23:34] <Fudge> atdprhs  apt-add-repository
[23:35] <atdprhs> how can I update rep. Fudge?
[23:35] <Chwoka> Scunizi: none now, thanks
[23:35] <qin> Fudge: Ah, dunno.
[23:35] <Fudge> thanks qin anyway
[23:36] <atdprhs> thank you Fudge :-)
[23:37] <theTwiz> hi all
[23:37] <Telroth> I'm seeing performance issues with my raid5 (mdadm, speeds used to be ~360MB/s read, now it bounces between 500KB/s - 90MB/s, video playback stutters, renaming files can take 1-2s). Anyone able to possibly help?
[23:37] <SIFTU> Telroth: how full is the volume
[23:38] <theTwiz> im having trouble finding information on enabling inotify, ubuntu server 11. as best as i can tell, it is not currently enabled on my server, but my kernal does support it
[23:39] <Telroth> SIFTU: the volume is xfs, which is at 93% capacity and has 420GB free.
[23:39] <RockMeAmadeus> amanda knox was aquitted
[23:39] <SIFTU> Telroth: smartmontools reports all ok?
[23:40] <RockMeAmadeus> sorry, wrong channel
[23:40] <SIFTU> Telroth: and the array isnt rebuilding or anything right
[23:40] <grendal-prime> oook
[23:40] <grendal-prime> so
[23:40] <grendal-prime> anyone ever found anything that will open a visio diagram
[23:42] <Telroth> SIFTU: All pass the general test (smartctl -H <drive>), is there something in specific I should check?
[23:42] <SIFTU> Telroth: sounds right.. what about the mdadm status
[23:43] <Telroth> SIFTU: clean, all drives active
[23:46] <Guest91163> hey there everybody
[23:46] <coz_> hey
[23:48] <SIFTU> Telroth: what is load like?
[23:48] <Telroth> There is no load other than me frustratedly running a speed test.
[23:48] <Telroth> It's a media server, so it's usually used to stream video files over the network or for local playback
[23:49] <baktrak> How do u find out whos connected o my wireless
[23:49] <Telroth> baktrak: Check your wireless router's list of wireless clients, or perhaps the list of DHCP leases that have been handed out.
[23:49] <Iron_Bear_> I fixed it!! check here for the solution http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[23:49] <baktrak> theres no command for terminal?
[23:50] <SIFTU> Telroth: iotop is nice and quite?
[23:50] <coz_> baktrak,   gnome-terminal should work
[23:50] <coz_> if you are on gnome that is
[23:51] <Telroth> yes. occational 500-750KB/s bursts every few seconds during video streaming.
[23:51] <baktrak> Yes but whats the command...
[23:51] <DasEi1> baktrak: man netstat
[23:51] <baktrak> ty
[23:55] <itguru> Is it possible to download a google calender? I've been asked to import it into ubuntu, and I'm a touch stumped
[23:55] <SIFTU> itguru: there is an addon for thunderbird
[23:56]  * itguru hits google
[23:56] <psingh> itguru, you can add the google calendar to Thunderbird.  Then right click on it to export.
[23:57] <k0d3g3ar> itguru, have you checked the Google API docs for calendar?
[23:57] <psingh> itguru, I think you need two plugins in Thunderbird: Provider for Google Calendar and Lightning
[23:58] <k0d3g3ar> itguru, what exactly do you mean by "download"?  I mean do you want it as XML data, do you want it into an app, into a phone?  What exactly?