[08:27] morning! [08:28] mandel: morning! [08:31] good morning! [08:38] hi all, is there a project to file bugs against the u1ms specifically? feels kinda weird to file it against u1 itself, its a problem with the web u1ms thingy through banshee [08:39] gord: let me check [08:40] gord: if it's not the client code, but server code, it may be https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-music-store [08:41] ralsina, yeah thats what i'm looking for, great, thanks! [08:41] gord: you're welcome! [08:45] Just installed U1 for Windows... now I'll see how it works. :) [08:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-music-store/+bug/865145 if anyone is interested :) [08:51] Launchpad bug 865145 in ubuntuone-music-store "Your Downloads page can't show all pages when you have lots of files (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [08:53] gord: I am sure someone will pick it up :-) [08:53] nhaines: good luck! :-D [08:56] nhaines, any issues let us know, either ralsina or me should be able to fix it [08:56] ralsina, I've got a question about the autoupdate regarding the control panel [08:56] mandel: sure! [08:57] ralsina, what do you want to do with that? do we want to be cecking every x minutes or what? (looping call comes to mind) [08:57] mandel:I was thinking like once a day [08:57] ralsina, also, do we have the app indicator, I know it is hidden by the OS, but that is the path we should that in my opinion [08:57] mandel: thank you, I'll keep that in mind. [08:57] mandel: but we need two more things: 1) A way to check manually (there is a bug) 2) a way to let the user disable it [08:57] mandel: we do [08:58] mandel: I mean we do have the app indicator [08:58] ralsina, oh, cool, so its a matter to have an api for that, seems reasonable [08:58] ralsina, I'll do the following, will fix the issues with the branches that update from the laste beta and will move to that, does that sound reasonable? [08:59] mandel: yes [08:59] ralsina, I'll posposne the work in the secret project for later in the afternoon or tom [08:59] mandel: if I knew what the secret project was, maybe I would tell you not to ;-) [08:59] ralsina, just told you via pm :P [09:00] got it :-) [09:06] ralsina, can you asign me the bugs then? or do I need to create them? [09:06] mandel: I'll assign [09:06] ralsina, superb, thx! [09:09] mandel: bug #852125 [09:09] Launchpad bug 852125 in ubuntuone-client "Windows: Offer a feature to check for an updated copy of the software (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852125 [09:09] mandel: and bug #845659 that was already yours [09:09] Launchpad bug 845659 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Windows: implement the "there is a new version available" notifications (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845659 [09:12] ralsina, for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/852125 it would be nice to get seomt feed back from design, where should we put this etc.. [09:12] Launchpad bug 852125 in ubuntuone-client "Windows: Offer a feature to check for an updated copy of the software (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Triaged] [09:13] ralsina, I dont want to get the UI worse by adding extra buttons etc [09:14] mandel: I was thinking just a simple "There is a new version of this software" [] Stop checking for updates [Update] [Remind me later] [09:14] three rows: label / checkbox / buttons [09:14] Oh, wait [09:14] I would put that in the menu onthe indicator, and in the start menu [09:14] ralsina, where? [09:15] ralsina, ah, that was my question, but I think that we should also centralize all UI elements for condiguration [09:15] ralsina, without adding extra clutter ofcourse [09:15] mandel: the indicator menu is good enough. This is not exactly a frequently used thing [09:16] ralsina, hmmm lets adding it there and wait for the bug reports :P [09:16] bug #932250 "NEEDS MORE COWBELL" [09:16] ralsina: Error: Bug #932250 not found. [09:16] yet, ubot4, yet [09:17] ralsina, hehe [09:18] ralsina, by the way, we should consider allowing people to set ~ to point somewhere else, I have seen lots of people (like 4 hehe) complaining about this because they have a ssd [09:18] which makes sens since on linux they can set $HOME as a diff partition in a diff hd, but not on windows [09:18] mandel: yes, I even did a thread about that in ubunet-discuss [09:18] got the "it's HARD" standard response [09:19] ralsina, yeah, I read it.. I did respond about the symlinks [09:19] however, I suspect the only "real" problem with moving ~ is not having two users overlapping [09:19] or rather "making sure two users don't overlap" [09:19] ralsina, exactly, I was thinking the same, and if to users overlap, what happens? [09:19] does it go bannanas? [09:20] mandel: syncdaemon pingpong [09:20] or worse, metadata pingpong [09:20] BTW: we should make it impossible to add ~/Appdata as a UDF [09:20] or anything that contains ~/Appdata [09:21] Good morning! [09:21] mornig karni! [09:21] ralsina, there is a config that tells you what regexp should be ignored in the sync files, we could use that [09:21] ralsina, we might need to trick it since we have to expand ~ [09:22] ralsina, or, expand ~ when we write the config files, something like that, but less hacky :P [09:22] karni, buenos dias! [09:22] * mandel O machines just went crazy [09:22] ralsina: mandel: buenos dias! ^_^ [09:22] I think a config that says what ~ means should be enough [09:22] Since we only should be using paths relative to ~ anywhere [09:23] In fact... setting HOME should do the trick! [09:23] since os.expanduser uses that even on windows [09:23] ralsina, I'm 100% sure we use ~ everywhere [09:24] mandel: are you willing to see what happens if you set HOME ;-) [09:25] ralsina, if you are talkinga bout assigning that bug to me, feel free :) [09:25] mandel: I am talking about trying it out and seeing what explodes :-) [09:26] mandel: then, if it works, declaring it a feature ;-) [09:27] ralsina, ok, Ill take a look [09:28] ralsina, ok, I'll add it to my todo [09:28] ralsina, now, coffee break for me :) [09:28] mandel: cool, see you later! [09:35] Morning all! [09:40] good morning JamesTait! [10:08] * mandel back! [10:25] ralsina, ping [10:25] mandel: pong [10:27] ralsina, the runtests from ubuntuone-windows-installer gives me an error on Linux, do you have the same issue? [10:27] mandel: haven't tried that in a while [10:27] ralsina, I have an import error with ubuntuone.controlpanel.gui.qt.ui [10:27] ralsina, does that make sense? [10:28] mandel: you need to set PYTHONPATH correctly or the tests won't work [10:28] it must have u1-client u1cp and ussoc in it [10:28] ralsina, but I have ubuntuone-control-panel installed from trunk [10:28] ralsina, so I'm surprised.. [10:28] remember that we don't install the Qt bits on linux [10:29] ralsina, la puta! [10:29] ralsina, ok, mea culpa [10:44] jesus! how longs does pylint take! [10:45] mandel: on a VM, semi-forever [10:45] ralsina, yes, I need to just change like 3 lines and the process of doing it is a PITA [10:45] ralsina, dammed! [10:50] ralsina, do you have any trick in your bag to make u1lint faster? this is just plain stupid :( [10:57] mandel: yes, run it on linux [10:57] or on macos, or whatever is not a VM ;-) [11:00] ralsina, I hate multiplatform programming.. vms are suppose to solve this! [11:00] mandel: pylint is extremely disk-intensive [11:10] * mandel is embarrassed about his os, had to do sudo port install wget [11:11] good morning everyone! [11:11] nessita, buenos dias1 [11:12] hello mandel! [11:12] did you have a safe trip home? [11:12] nessita, yes, it was very long but everything went perfectly ok :) [11:14] ralsina, what is up with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-windows-installer/+bug/863582 ? [11:14] Launchpad bug 863582 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Wrong upgrade detection (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] [11:15] ralsina, I think we should try to remove the autoupdate code from install builder and do it in python, even change the xml to be a json and just do a wget of the installer and execute it [11:16] * mandel walks dog [11:18] mandel: that one is my fault [11:18] mandel: there are two ways to do it according to the manual, and I chose the bad one ;-) [11:19] * ralsina walks the kid (to school, be back in 1 hour) [11:56] ralsina, ok, I don't see many problems with it, I just wanted to know if we either used the current code or just re-do it in python [11:58] * mandel back [12:04] * mandel is happy that u1-tdev-tools is trully multiplatform, running u1lint on mac os x [12:05] mandel: is the branch ready for re-review? [12:06] (just checking) [12:06] nessita, nearly done, let me 2 mins to do a push [12:06] nessita, turns out that u1lint/pylint is unusuable on a VM [12:07] nessita, takes for ever to finish (as in hours) [12:13] nessita, I'd conider this as high: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/865279 [12:13] Launchpad bug 865279 in ubuntuone-client "Windows System tray icon doesn't return after re-opening Ubuntu One (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [12:14] nessita, if we can reproduce it, that is [12:14] also, pushed revno 81 [12:14] mandel: I would go with a medium or low, the user does have the controlpanel opened every time, just the systrey icon is missing [12:15] mandel: I will assign to ralsina [12:15] nessita, I find this an issue: The process ubuntuone-control-panel-qt.exe keeps running. [12:15] and this There is no way of closing old instances but killing them from the Windows Task Manager. [12:16] mandel: that's another issue... we have a bug in the u1cp about it [12:16] nessita, ok, if you give be the bug number and I'll point the user to that one and will edit the bug a little [12:17] mandel: the bug title is correct, no? [12:17] nessita, yes, the explanation is the one I'd clean [12:17] nessita, add say that we should remove the task manager mentions and just say it does not longer appear [12:18] nessita, I need to go for 5 min, I'll be back (machine reboot) [12:18] mandel: what do you mean with "remove the task manager mentions"? [12:18] nessita, clean this: 1.- The process ubuntuone-control-panel-qt.exe keeps running. No icon in the windows system tray. If I relaunch it again, a new instance of ubuntu-one-control-panel-qt.exe is launched. There is no way of closing old instances but killing them from the Windows Task Manager. [12:18] nessita, arg, reboot, I'll be back asap [12:18] puto mac! [12:29] nessita, waht I was thinking is to remove the sentece and say: 1. No systray icon appears. This might be related to bug number #blah [12:30] mandel: hum [12:30] mandel: I think they are separated issues [12:30] mandel: I think one issue is that the systray does not appear, and another that the former process does not finish [12:31] nessita, I have the same gut feeling, but in my case is just gut. That is why I think we should solve the process one first and then see what is going on with the systray [12:31] mandel: the process one is not close to be solved, we don't even know what's going on [12:32] mandel: something is not good between the qt4reactor and twisted [12:32] nessita, ok.. that is bad :( [12:32] nessita, what I think if might be happening is that the systray of the second process is not created because there is already one, yet hidden/closed but I'm just syaing random though, I have no prove for my statement [12:33] nonono [12:33] the systray icon is not created because you have to use --with-icon to create it [12:33] and the default is "no icon" because having many icons is worse [12:33] ralsina, oh, nice so no issues :) [12:33] ralsina: we're talking about bug #865279 [12:33] Launchpad bug 865279 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "Windows System tray icon doesn't return after re-opening Ubuntu One (dup-of: 862997)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865279 [12:34] Launchpad bug 862997 in ubuntuone-control-panel "It's possible to open ubuntu one twice (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 161)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862997 [12:34] I mean, no bad issues :P [12:34] once we have a "unique app" thing, that is trivial to fix (make --with-icon the default) [12:34] nessita: I know, I answered it [12:34] ralsina, what is a 'unique app'? [12:34] you mean single process? [12:34] mandel: an app that only can be started once [12:35] mandel: and that if you start it again, it activates the ld instance's window instead [12:35] mandel: like u1cp is on Linux (but that's done using DBUS) [12:35] ralsina, sometimes dbus makes things too easy, I hate it for being that good :( [12:36] mandel: don't be a geek ;-) [12:36] doing it on windows using QLocalServer is not terribly hard. I have C++ code for it [12:37] I just need to translate it [12:37] In fact, I think I will [12:41] ralsina: the only problem may be that the controlpanel something does not finishes :-/ [12:41] nessita: since we have the notification area icon, not finishing is not a big problem [12:41] unless of course, it leaves the localsocket open [12:42] ralsina: probably it does, but I have no way of confirming it (just a intuition) [12:42] we can always make it kill itself to ensure it really, really, really ends [12:44] hi everyone! [12:45] hi gatox [12:45] gatox, morning! [12:45] gatox: how is it going? [12:46] nessita, fine... in a bunker in KGB (cafe)... didn't finish the branch about no mocker in the weekend (or friday), because i was moving to a new apartment.. and i don't have internet there until tomorrow [12:47] gatox: ok, so, you plan on finishing it today? [12:47] gatox, I've been there before.. is a paint to move all utilities to a new place [12:47] gatox, will the walls be orange? [12:47] mandel, of course [12:48] nessita, i will try... i think it's possible [12:48] gatox, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_Jr3vasOo [12:49] mandel, jeje [12:51] gatox, nessita, mandel, alecu, dobey: standip in 9' [12:51] ralsina, ack [12:52] ralsina, gatox I have a question about the ubuntuone-windows-installer. Why is utils under ubuntuone_installer/gui/qt? why not ubuntuone_installer/utils? I know we will be always using qt, but it just looks funny [12:53] mandel: no reason [12:54] ralsina, oh, so could we later move it up? or will it be a terrible idea? [12:54] nessita, ping [12:54] mandel: pong [12:54] mandel: without a better reason than "looks funny" I vote +1 on terrible idea ;-) [12:55] nessita, I need some small help with a stupid function. I want to find the path to the root folder of ubuntu one (~/Ubuntu One) and I don't want to hard code the code with os.path.join(~ Ubuntu One). Do you know any api from sd that I can use for that? [12:55] ralsina, :*( [12:56] ralsina, I hate to type that long to get a file (yes, I use tab completion) [12:56] mandel: SyncDaemonTool.get_root() [12:56] nessita, me loves you! [12:56] as in thx, nothing weird :P [12:56] mandel: :-) [12:58] ralsina, review please: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/local-folders-get_info-fail/+merge/77718 [12:58] gatox: ack [12:59] * mandel tests funny things with sd [13:00] me [13:00] me [13:00] me [13:01] alecu, dobey, ralsina? [13:01] me [13:01] me [13:01] mandel: go! [13:01] DONE: Fixed pylint issues for lp:~mandel/ubuntuone-windows-installer/check-old-app and lp:~mandel/ubuntuone-windows-installer/uninstall-old-app [13:01] TODO bug #852125 and bug #852125. Set up real Linux box so that I can run pylint natively (can you believe that, no VM! WTF?) [13:01] BLOCKED: no [13:01] COMMENTS: will try to do some secret feature code later in the evening [13:01] next gatox!!! [13:01] Launchpad bug 852125 in ubuntuone-client "Windows: Offer a feature to check for an updated copy of the software (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852125 [13:01] DONE: [13:01] Some personal errands, finish local folders get info fails [13:01] TODO: [13:01] Fix some tests for Network Detection, work on no mocker branch. [13:01] BLOCKED: [13:01] No [13:01] nessita, go [13:02] DONE: first freaky friday :-D! made a little more of bug #859635, bug triage, and magicicada [13:02] TODO: finish bug #859635, bug #862991, bug #862540 [13:02] BLOCKED: nopes [13:02] NEXT: ralsina [13:02] COMMENT: will leave early to present the TDD talk at the uni [13:02] Launchpad bug 859635 in ubuntuone-servers (and 2 other projects) "Remove the deprecated ApplicationCredentials SSO DBus iface (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859635 [13:02] Launchpad bug 862991 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Set a better title for the error dialogs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862991 [13:02] Launchpad bug 862540 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Do provide a nice error message when there are issues (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862540 [13:02] DONE: took friday off b/c personal issue, bug triaging, some reviews. TODO: fix bug #862997 BLOCKED: no [13:02] Launchpad bug 862997 in ubuntuone-control-panel "It's possible to open ubuntu one twice (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 165)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862997 [13:02] whoever is next? :-) [13:02] me [13:02] dobey: [13:02] λ DONE: tickets, fixed ftbfs, mulled over issues/planning [13:02] λ TODO: bug #865105 [13:02] λ BLCK: None. [13:02] Launchpad bug 865105 in ubuntuone-client-gnome (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_unref() in any folder with Ubuntu One location widget (affects: 24) (dups: 1) (heat: 118)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865105 [13:02] alecu [13:02] DONE: minisprint with mandel: worked on a prototype of emblems for windows file explorer, discussed proxy options [13:02] TODO: get back to server-time synchronization branches [13:02] BLOCKED: no [13:02] alecu: hi there! [13:02] alecu: I want to add to your TODO: fix tests on unicode usernames branch so it merges [13:03] +TODO: fix tests on unicode usernames branch so it merges [13:03] alecu: can you please, as a top priority, fix the unicode username branch? since it wasn't in trunk, it did not end up in the installer we released :-/ [13:03] alecu: ah, what ralsina said :-) [13:04] nessita[TODO].append('Send interview feedback to bosses') [13:04] * ralsina is not going to manually merge anything in a release ever again [13:04] Oh, also DONE: "got interviewed" [13:04] ralsina, sounds like a reasonable branch [13:05] eod? I need to have lunch [13:05] mandel, eom perhaps! [13:05] mandel: you mean EOM? [13:06] eom! [13:06] you know how the spanish are [13:06] NOTE: we are up to about 2300 concurrent users on windows now [13:06] yes, that hehe [13:06] lunch, siesta, beer, futbol, dinner [13:08] that is the same numbers that microsoft have about windows running achine heheh [13:09] * mandel lunch [13:11] ralsina: got interviewed? who interviewed you? [13:11] nessita: same interview series as chipac-a [13:12] nessita: akgraner i guess [13:12] shouldbe out tomorrow [13:12] dobey, ralsina: ah :-) [13:13] gatox: +1 on your branch [13:14] Anyone else has reviews pending? [13:14] ralsina, great [13:15] dobey: I will be re-proposing the update-sso branch. I googled for the marshaller thing, and I read that you need to register a custom marshall if there is no builtin one for the signal signature you're connecting to. Since the signals we want to handle send either no params (auth denied, creds not found) or a string-string array (creds found, creds error), I just register a custom marshall for _syncdaemon_marshal_VOID__POINTER [13:15] dobey: when you have some spare time, would you review https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/update-sso/+merge/77370 ? [13:16] sure [13:16] fixing this critical first :) [13:16] nessita, yep - for the Ubuntu One series on my Ubuntu User - You-In-Ubuntu blog - I'll post it tomorrow - Tuesday are for Canonical/Ubuntu interviews - Monday's are for UWN and Leadership stuffs for me [13:18] dobey, thanks for catch the mbp for me..I can't believe I did that...:-/ [13:18] s/catch/catching - dang it - yep it's Monday.... [13:19] akgraner: no problem. :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:25] * mandel back! [13:37] lisette, ping [13:37] mandel: pong [13:38] lisette, I'm looking at fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/852125 and I was wondering if I can get any input from the design team. [13:38] Launchpad bug 852125 in ubuntuone-client "Windows: Offer a feature to check for an updated copy of the software (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Triaged] [13:38] lisette, I wonder were to put the UI and old that :P [13:39] mandel: ummm..? [13:39] lisette, the one way we though of was to add it in the context menu of the systray icon [13:39] dobey, nessita: we can't include code licensed under GPLv2 into u1, right? [13:39] GPLv2 or later that is [13:39] ralsina, we are gpl. right? [13:39] GPLv2 or later means we can license it as GPLv3, if you want to put it in something of ours that is GPLv3 [13:39] ralsina: license wise, we can (is compatible), but we need to hold the copyright as far as I know [13:39] mandel: yes we are, but "contributor's agreement"? [13:40] mandel: i am not 100% sure what you mean with where to put the UI? [13:40] and there is the contrib agreement thing [13:40] right. So, I'll reimplement from a BSD source instead [13:40] pity [13:40] uhm [13:40] using BSD doesn't solve the problem either :) [13:41] dobey: there's not going to be anything left of the code. The original is C++ ;-) [13:41] ralsina: what are you trying to do anyway? [13:41] lisette, have to add an option to check that there are updates and we do not have a tools bar (file, edit etc) so either I do not show it in the control panel ui at all, or I put it somewhere [13:41] dobey: I need an implementation of "unique application" that wrks on qt + windows [13:42] dobey: there are several, but of course we have not written them ;-) [13:42] oh [13:42] ralsina, find a university student and tell him to plagarize it :P [13:42] mandel, lisette: I think putting that in the panel UI is not a good idea [13:42] that is trivial [13:42] dobey: it's trivial on Linux (and most apps did it wrong for years anyway) [13:42] mandel: can we check in the background on startup and give a popup like VLC does? [13:42] ralsina, that is why I'm asking the design team, I prefer not to make this type of decitons ;) [13:42] ralsina: aren't we already using our magical IPC thing? [13:43] dobey: u1cp is not a "magical IPC server" [13:43] lisette, we have that, matt wants also an explicit check [13:43] dobey: and having to assign another port to it for this is a huge overkill [13:43] mandel: aha. i think with VLC there are some boxes to check to allow the program to check for updates [13:44] ralsina: does Qt not have something like XAtoms on Windows? [13:44] mandel, lisette: since we're aming to have the QT controlpanel to be multiplatform, I will not put the setting in the control panel itself [13:44] mandel: which could logically put it under program settings [13:44] dobey: since it's for windows, I could just add this as a developer dependency: http://websvn.pardus.org.tr/uludag/trunk/pds/pds/quniqueapp.py?revision=37802&view=markup [13:45] dobey: there isn't AFAIK. The popular way is to do it using a socket, so you can actually tell the running instance to open a window [13:45] ralsina: doesn't that "open another port just for this" ? :P [13:46] dobey: nope. A localsocket (like a unix socket) [13:46] we are using TCP for our IPC [13:46] oh [13:46] why are we using TCP? [13:46] dobey: long story? [13:47] and i thought Qt already had a unique app API? [13:47] dobey: short version: twisted is tricky. [13:47] dobey: they do in C++: http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-solutions/qt-solutions/blobs/master/qtsingleapplication/src/qtsingleapplication.cpp [13:47] dobey: but it's not part of Qt proper [13:47] oh [13:47] ralsina, I agree with lisette that we should be adding it in the settings tabs, and we can think a way to add extra widgets acording to the platform [13:48] uhm [13:48] ralsina, lisette and we also have the systray icon, so my questions is more in terms of the usuability of app. Do we want to make it easy to discover how to check for updates? if we do not care, we can go for systray only, otherwise.. [13:48] mandel: I am -0 on that [13:49] mandel: it is pretty full in there already :( [13:49] ralsina: so why not just package that quniqueapp.py as a dependency in the bundle? [13:49] mandel: sys tray would be very unlogical [13:49] mandel: I don't think we care all that much. If we can put it somewhere visible it's good [13:49] lisette, ryes, that is why I'm asking :P [13:49] lisette: how about in the start menu, next to Ubuntu One? [13:49] ralsina, we can ask matt waht he wants [13:50] dobey: on Linux we don't need it at all [13:50] dobey: so there's no need to package it, I think [13:50] ralsina: what start menu? [13:50] lisette: windows's [13:50] lisette, in the start menu of windows (bottom left) [13:50] ralsina, I think that is a great idea! [13:50] nessita, i've improved the tests of this branch as you told me, can you review it when you have a moment? https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/network-detect/+merge/77048 [13:51] ralsina: aha. hmm. again, not a logical way to look for it, specially cos it starts automatically [13:51] ralsina: uhm, the thing we ship on windows for people to download and run, is a "package" :) [13:51] dobey: ha [13:51] ralsina: i wasn't talking about linux, only windows [13:51] dobey: no it isn't, you linux geek ;-) [13:51] lisette, there is an automatic check, then matt was a manual check and they also want a looping check [13:51] ralsina, mandel: do we need permission from a user to look for updates? [13:51] lisette, to just look, no [13:52] * ralsina wishes bzr had svn:externals [13:52] lisette, if I went to a doctor for a prostatic test as many times as they want to check for updates it would be called anal sex and not a medical exam [13:53] * ralsina smacks mandel with the employee manual [13:53] sit mandel, sit! [13:53] mandel :D [13:53] ralsina, what!! my metaphor was completelly correct! [13:54] mandel, ralsina, could we slap a button under settings that says ´Check for program updates´ or similar? I can mock this. [13:54] gatox: sure [13:55] nessita, thanks [13:55] lisette: if you can mock it, we can take a look and decide if it's worth it. [13:55] lisette: that page looks scary enough already :-( [13:55] nessita, i've to make a little modification in another branch, and i'll be completely dedicated to no mocker branch [13:55] ralsina: cool [13:55] or gatox: even better :) [13:56] gatox, ralsina: although.... [13:56] lisette, yes, I mean, mock it and it looks ok, I'll do it :) [13:56] mandel, ralsina: could we add something to the right hand side of the panel? [13:57] lisette: you mean, outside the tabs? [13:57] ralsina: no [13:57] ralsina: right from bandwidth and file sync settings [13:57] lisette, ralsina I think at this point is were some quick wireframes with ideas would make things easier :) [13:57] lisette: indeed! [13:58] ralsina, mandel, ok [13:58] ralsina, what about a corner widget in the QTabWidget for that? [13:58] ralsina, obviusly tuned [13:58] gatox: scary? ;-) [13:58] it's giving a rearely-used thing a way too visible place [13:59] ralsina, ahhhhhhhhh ok then [13:59] I mean, most users should never have to actually click that [13:59] ralsina, i understand [14:06] ralsina, can I get a review for https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-windows-installer/check-old-app/+merge/76867 [14:06] mandel: sure [14:06] ralsina, thx! [14:09] mandel: have you actually TRIED it with the old beta installed? [14:09] mandel: just curious here ;-) [14:10] ralsina, yes :) [14:10] mandel: cool [14:10] ralsina, checks if the uid is that and returns the correct value :) [14:11] mandel: pep8 problems [14:12] mandel: adding to MP [14:16] ralsina, ok, thx! [14:16] ralsina, I really need to set up a real machine for running this things.. agg this is so annoying [14:20] nessita: how do you feel about adding a source dependency ont his for windows: http://websvn.pardus.org.tr/uludag/trunk/pds/pds/quniqueapp.py?view=log [14:21]