[00:00] <docid> aye, i meen, everything is still locked up
[00:00] <docid> until i hit B
[00:02] <Daskreech> docid: I guess you don't know what the REISU does then :)
[00:03] <docid> Daskreech: grabs input devices,  emergency remounts devices as read only, synchs and boots, i know im missing some things there, i knew what each key did... a while ago
[00:04] <Daskreech> :-) yes but none of those are intended to unfreeze the computer. They only stop corruption when the computer does an unexpetced reboot (which would be the B)
[00:05] <docid> lol, so is there a magic unfreeze key?
[00:05] <docid> :)
[00:05] <Daskreech> Depends on the Freeze. If it's X then yes
[00:05] <docid> do tell , always wanting to learn
[00:06] <docid> or i could probaly find it if i go a diggin
[00:06] <Daskreech> k
[00:07] <Daskreech> sorry to be clearer K is the combo key for the magic key
[00:08] <SIR_Taco>  I don't have a magic key or an any key on my keyboard!!! :P
[00:09] <Daskreech> SIR_Taco: maybe it disappeared.. magically
[00:10] <SIR_Taco> hmm... I guess I'll put that on my tab
[01:13] <SIR_Taco> someone should rename FloodBotK1 to "CaptObvious"
[01:14] <Unit193> Heh
[01:14] <Daskreech> I met CaptainObvious at DragonCon
[01:15] <Unit193> ./ubottu wasn't even here :P
[02:08] <skierpage> Anyone running 11.04, can you try `ls -l /etc/cups/mime.convs /usr/share/cups/mime/mime.convs`?  I have both files, the one in /etc is from 2009, seems wrong?
[03:46] <a4> hello folks... I just installed kubuntu (switched from ubuntu) and for some reason kubuntu detects my wireless network but wont connect even though I'm sure i have the passphrase and settings correct (I have verified them on windows)... and I never had this issue with ubuntu
[03:46] <a4> any ideas?
[03:46] <Daskreech> a4: What version of KDE?
[03:47] <a4> um the default 11.04 kubuntu version daskreech?
[03:50] <Daskreech> Hmm ok
[03:50] <Daskreech> trying to remember if that's NM 0.8 or NM 0.9
[03:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> network-manager is version 0.8.* in Ubuntu 11.04, just saying
[03:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> and network-manager-kde is... um...
[03:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> i *think* 0.9
[03:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> so i think its dependent on which they have installed
[03:55] <a4> kubuntu would have the same base drivers as ubuntu wouldnt it and if it can detect the network why cant it accept the proper settings
[03:57] <a4> i verify the settings and then the network icon shows that its configuring and it gets to about 75% then a window pops back up saying "secrets" for the network... with the pass phrase and settings
[03:57] <a4> and regardless if i click ok or retype the settings it does the same thing over and over
[06:36] <agu_> hi
[06:53] <katsrc> hey are there any good blogs/sites to follow for kubuntu news?
[07:13] <GirlyGirl> Problem on Kubuntu 11.04 with KDE SC 4.7.1 . Sometimes plasma crashes and when relaunched desktop effects seem to mess up the appearance of the Panels
[07:13] <jussi> GirlyGirl: have you filed a bug on bugs.kde.org ?
[07:14] <jussi> katsrc: planet kde is pretty good :)
[07:14] <jussi> katsrc: ie. http://planetkde.org/
[07:14] <katsrc> jussi: thank you!
[07:14] <Arnold> Hmm, KDE SC 4.7.1 in Kubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 seemed more stable for me.
[07:14] <jussi> katsrc: thats a nice agregate of many blogs, so you should find what you want htere
[07:15] <GirlyGirl> jussi: No I have only a launchpad account
[07:15] <Arnold> The only crash I get mostly is at the end, when either shutting down or logging out.
[07:15] <GirlyGirl> katsrc: Kubuntu.org itself
[07:15] <jussi> GirlyGirl: I suggest you sign up for one there then, as its where kde bugs that arent packaging go.
[07:16] <jussi> (at least for the ppa stuff you seem to be using)
[07:17] <GirlyGirl> jussi: It mostly happens only with the Air theme
[07:52] <katsrc> the best feature about Kubuntu 11.10: "Kubuntu introduces Kubuntu-Low-Fat-Settings: a collection of configuration options that reduce memory usage and even speed up KDE's loading time. This will help Kubuntu run better on older, lower-end systems. "
[07:54] <Arnold> katsrc, that's one interesting way to speed up KDE from Kubuntu alright. However, I stumbled upon another way, but I'm not sure how stable it is so far.
[07:54] <Arnold> Which is running Kwin using GLES backend.
[07:55] <Arnold> K Window Manager - "This package was compiled with support for OpenGL ES 2.0, before installing please make sure your video driver supports it. This package is part of the KDE base workspace module."
[07:56] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: I can confirm that
[07:56] <katsrc> Arnold: nice, how would I go about setting that up?
[07:56] <katsrc> compile kwin-gles?
[07:56] <GirlyGirl> katsrc: In system settings desktop effects
[07:56] <Arnold> Not in Kubuntu 11.10. You'll get a different package for it.
[07:56] <Arnold> You need to install kde-window-manager-gles which replaces kde-window-manager.
[07:56] <GirlyGirl> katsrc: But you need kde 4.7. and up
[07:57] <katsrc> Arnold: i'm on 4.7.1 and 11.04
[07:57] <katsrc> just installing the package
[07:58] <Arnold> katsrc, Kubuntu PPA might have that package aswell. You can give it a try.
[07:58] <katsrc> Arnold: seems like backports had it
[07:59] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, that's the stock OpenGL 2.0. This one is OpenGL ES 2.0
[08:00] <Arnold> ES stands for Embedded Systems.
[08:01] <katsrc> wasn't there a project for KDE-lite?
[08:01] <katsrc> with a desktop having lightweight Qt apps also
[08:02] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: I see let me try that then... but how do I know if the card supports GL-ES
[08:02] <Arnold> katsrc, I know a project with that specification, an Arch Linux user or so is working on that project.
[08:02] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, http://www.khronos.org/conformance/adopters/conformant-products/
[08:03] <Arnold> Look for OpenGL ES 2.0 tab and search for your graphics card model.
[08:03] <Arnold> And it will say if it's OpenGL ES 2.0 compatible, or just 1.1
[08:03] <katsrc> Arnold: that's awesome
[08:03] <Arnold> If it's 1.1, then it won't work. Atleast according to the KDE developers.
[08:04] <Arnold> [sidenote]  Flash Player 11 was officially released [/sidenote]
[08:05] <GirlyGirl> If 2.0 without the es works ?
[08:05] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, not quite. OpenGL 2.0 and OpenGL ES 2.0 are quite different. They have their own API and specifications.
[08:05] <Arnold> Tell me what kind of graphics card you have, and I can look it up for you.
[08:05] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: I'm quite sure my Nvidia will do it not sure about intel though
[08:06] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, I see. In that case, you can tell me both of their model type, and we'll find it out soon enough :)
[08:08] <GirlyGirl> ASUS Nvidia Geforce 9800 GT , Intel GMA 950 (27AE), and XFX Nvidia Geforce 8500 GT
[08:10] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, GeForce 8xxx and GeForce 9xxx are both qualified to support OpenGL ES 2.0
[08:11] <Arnold> And now for the Intel one.
[08:11] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: Ok thanks
[08:13] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, sorry. It's pretty much out of the question :/
[08:14] <katsrc> Arnold: it sure is snappy
[08:15] <Arnold> katsrc, which settings have you tried so far?
[08:17] <katsrc> Arnold: default
[08:18] <katsrc> no shaders, direct rendering
[08:18] <Arnold> katsrc, yeah, I really enjoy it being snappy and also uses way less memory for compositing, unlike some other compositors out there (Compiz, you rascal!)
[08:19] <Arnold> Oh, by the way, here it is. The Quantum Project: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125088&p=1
[08:19] <Arnold> It is one KDE4/QT4 fork. Not sure if this is the one you mentioned earlier.
[08:21] <katsrc> Arnold: it was the first one: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125004
[08:21] <katsrc> Quantum Project looks like it's doing something entirely different
[08:21] <katsrc> i don't know about javascript on my desktop?
[08:23] <Arnold> katsrc, ah, yes. This Quantum Project was created to make a more 'lightweight' KDE installation, less bloated and whatnot.
[08:26] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: Intel GMA 950 fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/702127/ How can I revert?
[08:27] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, you replaced kde-window-manager with kde-window-manager-gles?
[08:32] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, have you replaced kde-window-manager with kde-window-manager-gles before?
[08:32] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: no
[08:33] <Arnold> So what did you mean by reverting?
[08:34] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: I installed kde-window-manager-gles, obviously it removed the no gles one
[08:35] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, then you'll replace kde-window-manager-gles with the stock kde-window-manager.
[08:35] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager should do it
[08:36] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, yep. That will remove kde-window-manager-gles, in favor of kde-window-manager.
[08:37] <Arnold> This might explain more about the OpenGL ES 2.0 based Kwin's purpose: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/07/running-kwin-with-opengl-es-2-0/
[08:40] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: Reverting done on the intel system. Other systems work fine with GL-ES
[08:41] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, great! And what about the performance? Any improvement, even at the slightest?
[08:42] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: I don;t know the Nvidia systems are fast machines generally
[08:44] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, I see. In any case, the OpenGL ES 2.0 Kwin should bring some improvements nonetheless. That one is not based on OpenGL 1's fixed pipeline anymore.
[08:45] <Arnold> It wasn't pure OpenGL 2.0 as I thought.
[08:46] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: Intel stated incomplete GL-ES support maybe with newer drivers it will work in future?
[08:47] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, I think the problem lies on the hardware, rather than software. Meaning that a hardware as old as a GMA 950 one is way too old to handle OpenGL ES 2.0 functions, so that's why it says it's incomplete.
[08:48] <GirlyGirl> Arnold: Who knows its a 2009 card actually its a 945G Express
[08:52] <Arnold> GirlyGirl, from what I was able to find out, is that pretty much only GMA 500 and GMA 600 graphics cards have OpenGL ES 2.0 support. The earlier ones don't.
[08:53] <Arnold> And I can't find information about raw GMA graphics anywhere. Unless it's a PowerVR one (for embedded systems).
[08:54] <dust__> hello everybody - yesterday i generated a gnupg-key using kleopatra for my maildresses to sign the code of conduct - this worked very well - today the key is gone - doesnt matter whether i use kgpg or kleopatra - anyone that can help me out? - does kleopatra use gnupg2 ?
[08:57] <dust__> anyone? - where can i get help?
[08:58] <dust__> i generated a revoke key - should i use it - by the way i'm using 11. 10 beta2 with all updates
[10:06] <dust__> really would appreciate some help
[10:06] <dust__> how should i behave now?
[10:07] <dust__> searching the server (via kleopatra) doesn't show my identity - yesterday it did
[10:08] <dust__> is there another channel for help with beta2
[10:13] <well_laid_lawn> !11.10 | dust__
[10:33] <dust__> k
[10:38] <dust__> thought i could make some bugreports using it - but it seems to be just not stable enough for me :( - i will switch back to the LTS release
[10:55] <dcorbin_work> When I choose "Leave... Logout", it restarts my system instead of returning me to the KDM login.  Ideas?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:36] <nmvictor> hi guys, I am using KDE 4.7.1. When I log in, desktop effects are turned off forming black squares on my screen which is rarely repainted. This is especially common when I have KDE in the autostart list
[13:37] <nmvictor> hi guys, I am using KDE 4.7.1. When I log in, desktop effects are turned off forming black squares on my screen which is never repainted. This is especially common when I have cairo-dock in the autostart list
[13:37] <nmvictor> sorry abou the KDE --> cairo-dock confusion.
[13:38] <pisar> ls
[14:06] <jimmy__> helllo
[14:06] <jimmy__> hola a todos tengo una pregunta...
[14:06] <jimmy__> ??
[14:07] <jimmy__> me pueden hacer el favor de guiar en estas cuestiones..
[14:07] <jimmy__> ???
[14:07] <jimmy__> un ratico..
[14:07] <OerHeks> hi jimmy__ this Kubuntu channel is english only :-)
[14:07] <jimmy__> ok...
[14:07] <jimmy__> thanks..
[14:08] <jimmy__> by your date...
[14:08] <OerHeks> i read you have a support question ?
[14:08] <jimmy__> yeah
[14:08] <jimmy__> how create script in ubuntu...??
[14:09] <OerHeks> scripting, you would like to write in Bash ? or Python ? there are special channels for that.
[14:10] <jimmy__> mmm
[14:10] <jimmy__> interesting...
[14:10] <OerHeks> this is a start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[14:10] <jimmy__> what  chanenles....??
[14:11] <OerHeks> for bash join #Bash
[14:11] <jimmy__> ok..!! thanks..!
[14:11] <OerHeks> or ##python
[14:11] <jimmy__> what channels from python...??
[16:07] <caris_mere> I'm using the the netbook workspace, and I can't remove one of my pages.
[16:40] <r1_> hello heloo
[16:48] <adwait_sharma> Which is the best IRC client for Kubuntu 11.04?
[16:56] <genii-around> adwait_sharma: Most people use Konversation or Quassel. There are also others which are not specific to Kubuntu such as XChat, command-line clients like irssi. It all depends on what you find "best" for your own style of work-flow.
[16:56] <genii-around> !best
 how can i download xchta?
[16:57] <adwait_sharma> xchat*
[16:59] <genii-around> adwait_sharma: From the GUI, a package manager like Software Center, KPackagekit, or Muon. From commandline with: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[17:49] <fatum> damn it.. one more thing I need help for.. Following desktop effects could not be loaded. using kubuntu 11.04 64bit dual booted with win7, if it helps..  graphic card is  NVIDIA GeForce 310M, 512MB..
[17:50] <Peace-> fatum: well you can still use the others
[17:50] <fatum> the others?
[17:51] <Peace-> fatum: some effects doesn't work because your driver doesn't support them
[17:51] <Peace-> that's all
[17:52] <Peace-> nvidia has closed driver so ...
[17:52] <Peace-> this can't be fixed easly
[17:52] <fatum> but.. they did work before, when I had kubuntu 32bit...
[17:52] <fatum> same ntb
[17:52] <Peace-> it's the driver....
[17:52] <Peace-> driver good = good effects
[17:52] <Peace-> driver bad = few effects
[17:53] <fatum> so, absolutely nothing I can do?
[17:53] <Peace-> fatum: you can test another driver...
[17:53] <Peace-> fatum: have you checked on jokey ?
[17:53] <Peace-> jokey-kde
[17:53] <Peace-> it's the program
[17:54] <fatum> I can try
[17:55] <fatum> well, there is experimental 3D support..
[17:56] <fatum> I hope I'll be back soon
[17:57] <GirlyGirl> Problem with skype on 11.04 my mic does not seem to work
[17:58] <Peace-> threre is some to do i guess somethgin like export something
[17:58] <Peace-> GirlyGirl: rec -o temp.wav
[18:03] <fatum> everything is wonderful and works for now, thank you
[18:10] <Peace-> fatum: :)
[18:16] <caput> j
[18:51] <LINKSWORD2> Hello, all.
[18:51] <LINKSWORD2> Is it possible for me to check for updates on a single application?
[18:52] <GirlyGirl> LINKSWORD2: sudo apt-get update
[19:01] <genii-around> LINKSWORD2: More specifically: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade <specific-package-name-here>
[19:01] <maco> hmm? i thought it was install, not upgrade, for a single package
[19:01] <LINKSWORD2> So if I'm wanting to upgrade Amarok, I put it after the "upgrade" ???
[19:02] <genii-around> maco: "possible for me to check for updates on a single application?"
[19:02] <maco> genii-around: sudo apt-get install amarok      would upgrade amarok if its already installed but an update is available for it
[19:03] <genii-around> After apt-get update, apt-cache policy <packagename> would also say if there was a more recent version hopefully
[19:03] <maco> indeed
[19:04] <jmichaelx> LINKSWORD2: to upgrade a package, you use 'apt-get install <package-name>'
[19:04] <maco> yeah, its install
[19:04] <genii-around> Ah, OK
[19:04] <maco> if i try genii-around's way with "apt-get upgrade packagename" it just goes back to offering all upgrades as if you hadnt listed a package name
[19:05] <maco> wow im really behind on updates.... *twiddles thumbs*
[19:05] <genii-around> maco: Hehe
[19:05] <genii-around> maco: Thanks for the correction
[19:05] <jmichaelx> yea, you can't upgrade a package using apt-get upgrade package-name... although i can see why anyone might logically expect that to work
[19:05] <LINKSWORD2> That worked.
[19:08] <genii-around> I'm usually using something like apt-get install package=1.2.3.4ubuntu0   or so for specific versions...
[19:10] <latinlover> hi does any one know what is the best linux OS ?
[19:11] <afief> latinlover: Depends on what you're going to use it for and what you like
[19:11] <afief> latinlover: I personally use Kubuntu for my home computer, but at work we use RedHat, and my friend really likes Unity so she's uing Ubuntu
[19:11] <genii-around> latinlover: You are in #kubuntu channel asking, please remember. For a more impartial view perhaps inquire in ##linux
[19:12] <latinlover>  im using kubuntu  and ubuntu as well id like to try red hat but idont know how get it
[19:14] <LINKSWORD2> latinlover: Google search for Redhat Linux.
[19:15] <LINKSWORD2> Let me get the link for you.
[19:15] <latinlover> ok
[19:15] <LINKSWORD2> http://www.redhat.com/
[19:16] <latinlover> thank you
[19:17] <gomiboy> iirc you can't download radhat (unless you pay)
[19:18] <gomiboy> you should get centos or scientific linux which are redhat derivatives
[19:18] <latinlover> is redhat better than lion os x ?
[19:18] <LINKSWORD2> Redhat should be free, just like any other Linux distro.
[19:18]  * LINKSWORD2 snickers.*
[19:18] <kaddi> can someone tell me what version of firefox comes with ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10
[19:19] <kaddi> don't get scientific linux
[19:19] <kaddi> ever
[19:19] <kaddi> there's nothing worse
[19:19] <kaddi> >.>
[19:20] <gomiboy> kaddi: why? never tried myself, but at least i see is updated more frequently than centos
[19:20] <LINKSWORD2> kaddi: There is not a specific Firefox version that comes on Ubuntu or Kubuntu.
[19:20] <LINKSWORD2> Rather, there will be a Firefox Browser Installer that you run and it will download the most recent version of Firefox and install it.
[19:20] <kaddi> LINKSWORD2: but which release?
[19:20] <genii-around> !info firefox
[19:21] <Pici> Its 7 in both
[19:21] <genii-around> kaddi: 7.0.1
[19:21] <kaddi> 10.10 will only install the FF3 by default, if you want 4 or 5 you need an...
[19:21] <kaddi> ty Pici and genii-around :)
[19:23] <gedas> Hello
[19:23] <gedas> I can't upgrade 10.10 to 11.04
[19:23] <gedas> anybody can help?
[19:24] <LINKSWORD2> gedas: Generally if you're unable to upgrade, it will be due to an error. Are you receiving any?
[19:24] <genii-around> gedas: Is it beginning to upgrade, or just not even giving you the option?
[19:25] <latinlover> how do i joing other chanels in here ?
[19:25] <gedas> LINKSWORD2, I don't see any errors, but upgrade notifications eather
[19:25] <LINKSWORD2> latinlover: /join #<channel name>
[19:25] <gedas> genii-around, I can't see anythink
[19:26] <LINKSWORD2> genii-around: I'll let you help gedas.
[19:26] <latinlover> wer do i  get the channel name?
[19:27] <LINKSWORD2> Hang on.
[19:27] <gedas> genii-around, It don't give me any options
[19:27] <gomiboy> latinlover: /list
[19:28] <gedas> Guys!
[19:28] <gedas> anybody!
[19:28] <LINKSWORD2> Wow. Looks like RedHat is has met end-of-life.
[19:28] <LINKSWORD2> latinlover: /join #fedora
[19:29] <Boomboy> hello all. do we have any app for yahoo messanger for ubuntu which supports webcam? thanks
[19:31] <genii-around> gedas: You can get to Konsole or terminal? If so, what is result of:  grep = /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:32] <genii-around> eg: Prompt=normal or Prompt=lts or Prompt=never
[19:32] <gedas> genii-around, Just a sec
[19:32] <gedas> genii-around, Promt=normal
[19:35] <genii-around> gedas: How did you go about doing the upgrade? eg: from sudo do-release-upgrade, or from altering sources.list, from install over top with cd, etc?
[19:36] <gedas> genii-around, I tryed sudo do-release-upgrade, tryed form CD, but no good
[19:36] <aleksey> Кто дастм не совет?
[19:36] <genii-around> !ru | aleksey
[19:38] <genii-around> gedas: After the do-release-upgrade, what happened?
[19:38] <gedas> genii-around, Checking for a new ubuntu release
[19:38] <gedas> No new release found
[19:39] <genii-around> gedas: What says result of: cat /etc/issue
[19:39] <gedas> genii-around, Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[19:40] <gedas> genii-around, what that means?
[19:41] <genii-around> gedas: It means the version right now is 10.10 ( Maverick Meerkat )
[19:41] <genii-around> gedas: Please try: sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[19:41] <maco> did you sudo apt-get update first?
[19:42] <gedas> maco, don't be kidding
[19:43] <maco> huh? if its a clean install it wont know whats on the repos...
[19:44] <gedas> maco, I upgraded from 10.03 to 10.10 now I'm trying to upgrade to 11.04
[19:44] <gedas> genii-around, Now something is hapening, please wait
[19:46] <kaddi> what does "WARNING: Failed to read mirror file" mean if I use do-release-upgrade
[19:46] <maco> kaddi: either the server you're using to get updates is down or your connection is bad
[19:46] <maco> try a new server
[19:47] <kaddi> o.o fascinating
[19:47] <kaddi> i was using ubuntu.com
[19:47] <maco> hmm
[19:47] <gedas> guys, I thing upgrade is in process
[19:48] <kaddi> hmm, i pressed enter and it continued running
[19:48] <kaddi> we'll see.. if the update doesn't work out smoothly. I'll come back and blame it on you. :p j/k
[19:48] <maco> maybe it was looking for a list of other mirrors to find a faster one? not sure now
[19:50] <kaddi> now it's stuck on "calculating changes"
[19:53] <kaddi> so ubuntu switched from openoffice to libreoffice? or did OO just rename itself?
[19:53] <genii-around> It was an actual change
[19:53] <maco> kaddi: a little from column A a little from column B
[19:53] <maco> OOo is still around...but its main developers left and forked to make LibreOffice
[19:54] <kaddi> ok
[19:54] <maco> it was when Oracle bought Sun
[19:55] <kaddi> i think i did hear part of the story after all.. just completely forgot about it
[19:55] <OerHeks> this year, Oracle has ceded control of the OpenOffice.org code base to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator project
[20:08] <GirlyGirl> bye
[20:25] <paolinux_> sera
[20:34] <gunksta> I have a plain text file full of the usual passwords and such sitting on my hard drive. Is there any way to open the file via Kate/KDE to view the file without first decrypting the file? In other words, I want to decrypted version to be in-memory only.
[20:37] <genii-around> If it's plain text, where does the decrypting come in?
[20:38] <gomiboy> gunksta: if the command you use to decrypt can output to stdout (probably yes) you can do anything
[20:39] <gunksta> genii-around: The original file is plain text and technically, the encrypted version is plain text too, but not very useful unless it is decrypted first.
[20:39] <genii-around> Ah, got it now.
[20:40] <gunksta> gomniboy:I'm using kgpg when using KDE. I gues what I'm after is something similar to what Vim does.
[20:43] <gunksta> I just noticed, that at the end of my options in dolphin is the option to view the file, which opens a windows containing the decrypted file, but does not appear to create a copy on my drive. It is a little clunky when closing the file, but appears to get me 90% of what I would want.
[20:43] <orcris> Hi.
[20:44] <orcris> Does anyone know how to upgrade to Kubuntu 11.04?
[20:44] <orcris> Hi Gamoder.
[20:45] <OerHeks> orcis 11.04 to 11.10 beta 2 ?
[20:45] <orcris> Yeah.
[20:45] <orcris> I'm used to Ubuntu, where I can just type update-manager -d
[20:46] <gunksta> orcris:do-release-upgrade
[20:46] <orcris> Thanks.
[20:46] <gunksta> orcris:technically this is how you are supposed to upgrade ubuntu too.
[20:47] <bbeck> Has anyone here installed dropbox, and if they have, have you been able to change the notifications to use knotify?
[20:47] <gunksta> orcris:if you want to try out 11.10, you will need to add a "-d" to the end of that.
[20:47] <BluesKaj> orcris, do-release-upgrade -d , if you're upgrading to a beta OS
[20:48] <orcris> Thanks.
[21:46] <ScottyK> What is the release date for 11.10?
[21:47] <Daskreech> ScottyK: Samething it is everytime
[21:48] <PaulW2U> ScottyK: 13th October
[21:48] <ScottyK> Thanks Paul....
[22:12] <BarkingFish> Can someone please, please tell me how to get rid of firefox 6, and get back to a working version please, like 3.6.17 or something useful???
[22:13] <BarkingFish> 6.0.2 is driving me barking.  I can't get plugins because the ones I need aren't compatible yet, and Firefox is moving so fast they probably never ever will be again.
[22:14] <maco> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[22:14] <maco> then pin or lock the version in synaptic
[22:14] <maco> er oh right this is the kubuntu channel
[22:14] <genii-around> !info firefox-4.0
[22:14] <maco> pin it in /etc/apt/apt_preferences
[22:14] <genii-around> Hm
[22:14] <maco> man 5 apt_preferences
[22:14] <Daskreech> hi maco
[22:14] <BarkingFish> maco, thank  you :)
[22:15] <maco> keep in mind this means you would not be getting security updates for it
[22:15] <maco> youve been warned
[22:17] <BarkingFish> I don't give a hoot. The security is no good to me anyway if the browser itself is about as useful as a wooden leg to a scarecrow :)
[22:17] <BarkingFish> No windows media player plugin... no shockwave plugin, no moonlight or mono plugins... no point really :)
[22:20]  * maco blinks
[22:20] <maco> there's a windows media player plugin for linux?
[22:24] <xcv> Hello everyone. I have had a problem with the kde partition manager when i have tried to resize a ntfs partition. I have selected it, set the new size, and apply, but it has stopped at 66% for more than 3 hours, so i have clicked 'cancel' and it has hanged. I have had to kill the process and now that partition is displayed as 'unknown'. What can I do?
[22:26] <xcv> please, I need help urgently
[22:34] <gomiboy> maco try this: mozilla-plugin-vlc
[22:35] <gomiboy> xcv: is the partition the same size as before or the 'new' size now?
[22:36] <xcv> gomiboy: no, it shows the size i specified. I have googled a bit and fdisk displays HPFS/NTFS, but windows doesn't boot (win7)
[22:38] <gomiboy> xcv: restore it to the previous size with fdisk
[22:39] <gomiboy> xcv: that is: delete the partition and recreate it to the old size
[22:41] <xcv> how can i know exactly the previous size? i just found this with grep in /var/log: http://pastebin.com/mq9q6M4c
[22:41] <gomiboy> xcv: were you shrinking or enlarging?
[22:41] <xcv> gomiby: i was shrinking it
[22:41] <Daskreech> Why would a Scarecrow not want a wodden leg?
[22:42] <xcv> gomiboy: i will need a bit of help with fdisk, i have never used it so seriously
[22:42] <Daskreech> !info partitionmanager
[22:43] <gomiboy> xcv: you touched sda4 also?
[22:43] <xcv> gomiboy: i don't think so, i have kubuntu in it and i have been able to reboot
[22:45] <xcv> gomiboy: so, do you think that i will be able to restore my lost partition?
[22:46] <gomiboy> xcv: then just delete sda3 and recreate. fdisk will give you the max free size then (assuming sda3 was 'in touch' with sda4)
[22:47] <xcv> gomiboy: would the log info be useful for that operation?
[22:47] <gomiboy> xcv: maybe... doing this can't get things worse anyway... :P
[22:47] <xcv> gomiboy: that's true... how do i begin with fdisk?
[22:48] <gomiboy> sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[22:48] <gomiboy> d 3
[22:48] <xcv> sudo fdisk /dev/sda3?
[22:49] <gomiboy> no, sda
[22:50] <xcv> gomiboy: now?
[22:50] <gomiboy> xcv: type d to delete, type 3 when asks part number
[22:50] <xcv> yes, yes
[22:50] <xcv> i have just deleted it, what should i do now?
[22:50] <gomiboy> type n for new
[22:50] <gomiboy> use the default numbers for size
[22:51] <xcv> it asks me the first cylinder for now
[22:51] <gomiboy> just press enter
[22:51] <xcv> okay
[22:52] <xcv> it asks me for the last cylinder
[22:52] <gomiboy> enter again
[22:52] <xcv> will it overwrite my current partitions or write until sda4?
[22:53] <gomiboy> xcv: it will use only the free space, we will check later
[22:54] <xcv> 65667 seems a bit round to me, it was just that lol
[22:54] <xcv> done, now it should be repaired?
[22:54] <gomiboy> so sda4 should start at 65668 right? :P
[22:54] <gomiboy> no, one thing
[22:55] <gomiboy> type t
[22:55] <gomiboy> then 7 for ntfs
[22:55] <gomiboy> no, wait
[22:55] <xcv> done too
[22:55] <xcv> what is wrong?
[22:56] <gomiboy> done for partition 3 right ?
[22:56] <xcv> yes, don't worry :)
[22:56] <gomiboy> ok... :P
[22:56] <genii-around> So then basically just w
[22:56] <gomiboy> now press p and pastebin the status
[22:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> sounds like either the windows failtextinstaller or the textual installer for Linux...
[22:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> i assume the second?
[22:57] <gomiboy> no, it's just fdisk, the old school partition editor :P
[22:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol
[22:57] <TheEvilPhoenix> no GUI?
[22:57]  * TheEvilPhoenix raises an eyebrow
[22:57] <gomiboy> naaaa :P
[22:58] <xcv> here you have it: http://pastebin.com/dAdbUQYD
[22:59] <genii-around> Ah, Acer. Gotta love those hidden partitions
[23:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> lolololololol
[23:00] <xcv> o_O
[23:00] <gomiboy> xcv: mmm didn't you say that the last cylinder was 65667? why it is 52920?
[23:01] <xcv> i don't know, it said 65667, it seems like it has ignored me
[23:01] <xcv> should i retry that?
[23:01] <gomiboy> xcv: you exited fdisk?
[23:01] <xcv> yes
[23:01] <gomiboy> ...
[23:01] <xcv> an error
[23:02] <gomiboy> then do it again...
[23:02] <xcv> done
[23:02] <xcv> now?
[23:02] <xcv> w?
[23:03] <gomiboy> again, d 3...
[23:03] <xcv> yes yes, i did it
[23:03] <xcv> again lol
[23:03] <gomiboy> oh... p to check
[23:04] <xcv> it is ok, 65667 :D
[23:04] <gomiboy> ok, w to write
[23:04] <xcv> 'q' forbidden lol
[23:04] <gomiboy> now try to mount it
[23:05] <xcv> output of 'w': http://pastebin.com/9WWAHEd9
[23:05] <xcv> is it an error or is it normal?
[23:05] <gomiboy> normal warning
[23:05] <xcv> okay i was a bit scared
[23:06] <xcv> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /media/win7
[23:06] <xcv> is it okay?
[23:06] <gomiboy> yes
[23:07] <xcv> could not mount it: http://pastebin.com/JA4u3ym1
[23:08] <gomiboy> xcv: then you'll have to restore your backup, because everyone has a backup when messing with partitions, right?
[23:09] <xcv> it was a 500 GB partition, and i had no information at all in it
[23:10] <xcv> i will reboot and try to boot windows, i have nothing to lose
[23:10] <xcv> i'll be back in a moment
[23:11] <gomiboy> good just reinstall... or you can see it as a message to stick with linux forever.. :P
[23:11] <xcv> i use linux a lot, but assassin's creed and imperium 3 don't work with wine :(
[23:12] <xcv> sometimes i like to play for an hour or two, and wine is not perfect :/
[23:12] <xcv> wait, i'm rebooting
[23:12] <gomiboy> heheh that's a common problem... and now i'm going to play deus ex... :P see you :D
[23:25] <MDesade> i have a question: when i log in to my kubuntu 11.04 64-bit desktop, it flashes the icons showing services loading, then the screen goes black and nothing but the mouse cursor is visible... how can i fix this?
[23:27] <MDesade> i have only changed the font to something larger, so i am happy to reset the config back to stock, if someone could clue me in as to how
[23:42] <xcv> gomiboy: are you there?