danilosdpm says https://launchpad.net/bugs/867411 is pretty critical and (urgent) for ubuntu translations (posting it here so I remember about it for the call :)12:10
_mup_Bug #867411: Evolution translations are not being imported into Launchpad <regression> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/867411 >12:10
danilosgmb, were you supposed to be a help contact as well today? :)12:11
gmbOh, balls.12:11
gmbdanilos: Yes indeed. Thanks.12:11
benjiHi everyone.  I'm not really here today (or tomorrow).12:14
danilosbenji, we'll enjoy it, thanks for reminding us! :)12:16
gary_posterbac benji danilos gmb call in 212:28
danilosgary_poster, benji wants no part in it, fwiw12:29
gary_postergmb danilos where are you?12:31
danilosyou don't hear me?12:32
gmbOh, hey, skype.12:32
gary_posterdanilos no we don't12:32
danilosgary_poster, yeah12:32
danilosgmb, yeah :)12:33
daniloshahah, let me go through test call stuff, this should work12:33
danilosgary_poster, status on the bug is "in progress" :)12:34
daniloschr was very busy today, and dpm approached me with a bunch of LP bugs related to ubuntu translations; he says https://launchpad.net/bugs/867411 is pretty critical and (urgent) for ubuntu translations (in time for the release which comes in 10 days or so)12:37
_mup_Bug #867411: Evolution translations are not being imported into Launchpad <regression> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/867411 >12:37
danilosgary_poster, I'd like somebody else to work on that12:37
danilosbecause, I'll be, you know, moving...12:37
danilosgary_poster, I've asked him to go through escalated process12:38
danilosgary_poster, still, since there's probably a week left to get these imported, it might be nice if we pick the bug up even if it doesn't go through escalated process12:38
danilosgary_poster, looking into mic issue right away12:39
danilosshould be good12:39
danilosgary_poster, so, skype test call worked perfectly :/12:40
gary_posterdanilos, weird12:40
bacgary_poster: my previous work on bug 828572 is not helpful so that task is really starting from scratch once my other bug lands.12:40
_mup_Bug #828572: bugs are marked incomplete_with_response if users or scripts change the status / tags immediately after setting the status <escalated> <ubuntu-qa> <Launchpad itself:In Progress by bac> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/828572 >12:40
gary_posterbac, darn & ok12:41
bacgary_poster: and with the migration issues i'm a bit worried about finishing it up by friday since i'll be gone12:41
gary_posterbac, oh12:41
gary_posterbac, maybe try danilos' task then?12:41
bacgary_poster: my suggestion is, should i abandon it and possible work on this translations problem if it is more urgent and more likely to be doable by EOW?12:41
gary_posterbac, sounds good to me :-)12:42
bacgary_poster: ok.  danilos i'll have a look at it and bug you later with questions12:42
* bac relocates to town.12:49
gary_posterdanilos, I did translations yesterday, just so you know you are not alone on that :-) .  there was a buildd issue that ate much of my CHR time yesterday though12:51
danilosgary_poster, right, I wasn't even referring to our team, to be honest (seeing entries from 27th, I kind of felt it was mostly that "other" team :))12:51
danilosgary_poster, I just wanted to let everybody read about it (even non-CHR teams) so when they come to it, they go through the very short docs12:52
gary_postermakes sense12:52
gary_posterkids -> school, back soon12:53
bacdanilos: and FWIW doing CHR i'd gone way over on questions and other stuff before i got to translations.  sorry i had to leave it a mess.13:10
gary_postergmb, I can confirm poolie's report about comments=all (js is not there for me, it's just stuff from before).  Looks like a feature flag issue maybe?13:36
gmbgary_poster: Indeed. WFM, but the rule is for team:launchpad not team:launchpad-beta-testers. I could've sworn I asked for lp-b-t but I could be wrong. I've added a request for a new rule to LPS; could you approve it so I can ping a losa to get it done?13:37
gary_postergmb, sure, though I'm in ~launchpad, yeah?13:38
gary_postergmb, this is on production, right?13:38
gmbgary_poster: Yes. That is odd (yes, this is production).13:38
gmbLet's get the rule added and then try and narrow down what's going wrong.13:38
gary_poster(of that was beuno not poolie, but anyway)13:38
gmbMight be an error elsewhere in the JS.13:38
gary_postergmb, ok can you gimme link to approve so I can be lazy?  Or I can just tell you "yes" :-)13:39
gary_posterin which case,13:39
gmbgary_poster: https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/OSA/LaunchpadProductionStatus#Feature_Flag_Changes13:39
gmbBut I'll add your approval13:39
gmbSince I'm already there :)13:39
gary_postergmb, was approving, but I doubt 0 will work.  If losas don't care and will adjust accordingly, then nm13:40
gary_posterapproved, btw13:41
gmbgary_poster: Okay. That could be part of the problem. I'll adjust upwards.13:41
gary_posternaah, won't be the problem I don't think.  If it is a problem (and maybe it isn't) then it would complain as soon as you tried to put the rule in13:41
gmbgary_poster: mthaddon has updated the rules; try refreshing bug 1 and see what happens.13:47
_mup_Bug #1: Microsoft has a majority market share <iso-testing> <ubuntu> <Clubdistro:Confirmed> <Computer Science Ubuntu:Confirmed for compscibuntu-bugs> <dylan.NET.Reflection:Invalid> <dylan.NET:Invalid> <EasyPeasy Overview:Invalid by ramvi> <GenOS:In Progress by gen-os> <GNOME Screensaver:Won't Fix> <Ichthux:Invalid by raphink> <JAK LINUX:Invalid> <LibreOffice:In Progress by bjoern-michaelsen> <Linux:New> <Linux Mint:In Progress> <The Linux O13:47
gary_postergmb no luck (get sent to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1?comments=all)13:48
_mup_Bug #1: Microsoft has a majority market share <iso-testing> <ubuntu> <Clubdistro:Confirmed> <Computer Science Ubuntu:Confirmed for compscibuntu-bugs> <dylan.NET.Reflection:Invalid> <dylan.NET:Invalid> <EasyPeasy Overview:Invalid by ramvi> <GenOS:In Progress by gen-os> <GNOME Screensaver:Won't Fix> <Ichthux:Invalid by raphink> <JAK LINUX:Invalid> <LibreOffice:In Progress by bjoern-michaelsen> <Linux:New> <Linux Mint:In Progress> <The Linux O13:48
gary_posterI see no JS errors13:48
* gmb tries again13:49
gary_posterI also see no JS around the link but maybe that's the way it is13:49
gmbgary_poster: The link should be green at least.13:50
gmbThere won't be any JS in the immediate vicinity.13:50
gary_postergmb, no, ixnay on the eengray13:51
gmbgary_poster: Aaah, hang on...13:51
gmbThere are *two* links aren't there.13:51
gmbgary_poster: The one at the bottom of the page and the one in the middle of the comments.13:51
gmbWhich one are you looking at?13:51
gary_postergmb, bottom.  I looked for the middle earlier but it was hard to find13:52
gary_postershould I try harder for the middle?13:52
gmbgary_poster: So, that's a bug. The bottom one doesn't get JS'd, but the middle one does.13:52
gmbgary_poster: Yes. Search for "hidden"13:52
gary_posterI see one!13:52
gary_posterLemme try it!13:52
gary_postergmb, expando triangle should be clickable I think13:53
gmbgary_poster: Or not there at all, since you'd expect it to stick around if it's clickable (like every other such triangle does) and it won't.13:53
gary_postergmb, look, more comments than I can shake a stick at!  Or even several sticks!  yay!13:53
gary_posteroh, good point gmb13:54
gmbI'll reply to Martin's email.13:54
gary_postercool thanks13:54
gmbAnd file some bugs :)13:54
gary_poster:-) cool13:54
gmb(Luckily, these are easy-sh to fix)13:54
bachi danilos, can i talk to you about bug 867411?14:26
_mup_Bug #867411: Evolution translations are not being imported into Launchpad <regression> <Launchpad itself:In Progress by bac> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/867411 >14:26
gmbYay, feedback continues to roll in. Some of it simple to fix, some of it not so much.14:59
gary_posterRight, CHR.15:00
gary_postergmb, beuno filed this for you :-P https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/86752915:05
_mup_Bug #867529: Dynamic loading comments load on top of page content <regression> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/867529 >15:05
gmbgary_poster: Thanks. I'm knee-deep in bac's code at the moment so feel free to file bugs for Andrea's feedback too whilst you're there ;)15:06
gmbgary_poster: Can you tag them story-batched-comment-loading please so that I can look them all up easily later?15:06
gary_postergmb, :-) I'll let you know if I do that.15:06
gary_postersure gmb, I'll do that for beuno's15:06
bacgary_poster: i'm stuck getting started on this bug until i can get some guidance from danilos15:07
gary_posterbac I saw danilos on launchpad-ops15:07
danilosbac, hi, sorry, haven't seen your earlier message (finding bugs left and right when looking into these things)15:07
bacdanilos: ah, good, you're around!15:07
danilosbac, I can chat now if you want15:07
bacdanilos: does your mic work?15:07
danilosbac, give me a min to try it out again :)15:08
danilosbac, it does, calling...15:08
danilosbac, sorry, ring me when you are ready :)15:09
bacit rang then hung up15:10
danilosbac, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/evolution/+pots/evolution/+edit15:13
gary_posterdanilos, I approved your expenses15:18
danilosgary_poster, thanks!15:19
danilosbac, /srv/launchpad.net-logs/scripts/ackee/rosetta15:19
danilosbac, added some details to the bug and cleaned up the report15:39
bacdanilos: thanks!15:40
danilosbac, fwiw, just creating simple data and running approver over it worked for me, so it's not the trivial case15:41
danilosbac, and actually, that discussion we had seems to have pin-pointed the problem for me: the message jtv removed might indeed be the culprit, since there are two templates when I look at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+templates15:43
bacdanilos: i see the two evolution templates on that page but don't know the significance of them15:44
danilosbac, well, I am guessing that's a problem, one of them has a red background, so that one is "obsolete"15:45
danilosbac, basically, it has iscurrent=False and a same directory (po/evolution-2.32.pot)15:45
danilosbac, approver can't decide which template to approve a translation for, since they are all in po/*15:45
danilosbac, the fix might be to make approver ignore obsolete templates altogether, but also to report on the problem somewhere (though, ubuntu packagers ignore emails from LP translations)15:46
bacthe red one is obsolete because it is marked as inactive?  "Template is active" on +admin?15:48
danilosbac, that's right15:49
danilosbac, added a 'make harness' test case where rosetta-approve-imports does nothing at all for me locally, whereas it should15:50
bacdanilos: could we test your theory by manually changing the translation domain for the obsolete one so there is no conflict and seeing if the auto approve works?15:50
danilosbac, yeah, except that *path* is what needs changing15:50
baclike po/evolution-2.32obsolete.pot  ?15:51
danilosbac, change path from "po/evolution-2.32.pot" to eg. "boom-po/evolution-2.32.pot" and it should work https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/evolution/+pots/evolution-2.32/+admin15:51
danilosbac, nope, directory needs to change15:51
danilosbac, (because that's the bit that is conflicting, i.e. approver sees two templates in po/, po/evolution-3.2.pot and po/evolution-2.32.pot, and can't tell to which one do the PO files belong)15:52
danilosof course, version numbers 3.2 and 2.32 don't make it easier to see the difference :)15:52
bacok, done15:53
bacso the next run (is it hourly) we should see this page reduced?  https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/evolution/+imports15:53
danilosbac, nope, it should turn these Needs Review entries into Approved, so if you filter that page by 'Needs Review' status, that one will be reduced15:53
danilosbac, and I believe approver runs more often, but sometimes it takes a while to process all the files15:54
bacdanilos: ok, well perhaps there will be good news after lunch15:54
baccurrently there are 267 in "NEEDS REVIEW"15:55
danilosbac, at the very least, we can move the obsolete template away to eg. null project15:55
danilosbac, so, we can solve the problem at hand today, thus making it non-urgent, but it'd be nice to fix this problem with the approver15:56
danilosbac, anyway, I am out now, hopefully this puts you on the right track15:56
bacdanilos: should.  thanks.15:56
gary_posterbac, if chr done.  we're about caught up on everything now I think16:05
gary_posteroops, that was an aborted message at the beginning, sorry bac16:06
gary_posterIntended message was "chr done.  we're about caught up on everything now I think"16:06
danilosgary_poster, ran into a bunch issues today, how about we actually *talk* tomorrow?16:13
danilosgary_poster, ok, off now, tty tomorrow16:19
gmbgary_poster: In https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/BugRelationships/GaryComments you talk about "Project Group Linking" (under Subfeatures, W.R.T LEP/BugLinking). Where has that term come from? I might be missing something but my reading of BugLinking is basically the "cloning" aspect that I discuss in the BugRelationships LEP.17:24
gmb(I think BugLinking is verging on being an implementation proposal rather than a higher-level LEP, fwiw)17:24
gary_posterlooking gmb17:24
gary_postergmb, First, "Project group" is a bad name, and I'm probably responsible for it.  Sorry for the confusion.  Actually, gmb, you ok for a quick call?17:26
gmbgary_poster: Sure.17:27
gmbgary_poster: Ready whenever you are.17:27
bacgary_poster: did you know your branch is in the QA hot seat?19:55
gary_posterbac, no, but I'm trying to get it qa'd now anyway.  It needs losa love.19:56
bacgary_poster: ok19:56
bacgary_poster: ooo, like bringing down the db?19:56
gary_posterbac, yeah :-)19:57
gary_posteryeah :-)19:57
bacgary_poster: danilo and i found a sort-of work around for the translation queue bug, that seems to have worked for evolution by just changing some data.  i'm still trying to figure out the real fix19:57
gary_posterbac, cool, so it is less critical, but still worth attention. sounds good19:58

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