[00:25] <ridz16> Hey guys I have a question regarding memory upgrade for my old computer. Max supported is 1gb and there are 2 memory slot, should I get one 1gb memory or two 512mb?  which option would save more energy and/or more beneficial to the computer in terms of efficiency? I currently have 256 and its not enough for my *buntu set up.
[00:29] <Unit193> ridz16: Might want to check on this site to confirm what you need http://www.crucial.com/
[00:30] <ridz16> I'm concerned about power consumption, because 512mb ram is about 2.5 volts so i was wondering if i use two would that stack up to 5 volts? because 1gb ram is about 2.5 as well so im thinking if i should just get 1gb
[00:30] <ridz16> Unit193, thnx for the link i'll check it out
[00:31] <Unit193> ridz16: It may support 1G, but only 512M per slot
[00:33] <ridz16> Unit193, right, it says Maximum allowed 1 GB (2 x 512 MB), the comp is hp pavilion a705w, well thnx anyways
[00:34] <Unit193> ridz16: Alright, that seems to answer your question ;)
[00:47] <ridz16> ya but on crucial it says max supported is 2gb and on hp website it says 1gb LOL, I guess 1gb is enough to run lubuntu but I'm gonna go ahead and use crucial system scan to see if the computer can really go up to 2gb
[00:47] <Unit193> Well, that's for windows. If you have that, great
[00:49] <ridz16> I'm mainly gonna go for powerpoint presentation so I'm thinking of using lightweight linux distro like lubuntu then put WINE then get powerpoint viewer
[00:50] <ridz16> brb
[00:51] <Unit193> That should work, but you might be able to use {Libre,Open}Office
[04:43] <eaglestar> hi is there a way to add the software center to lubuntu like they have in ubuntu without installing gnome?
[04:47] <Unit193> The least you can install is with the terminal command      sudo apt-get install software-center --no-install-recommends
[05:00] <eaglestar> would i still be able to see the star ratings and so forth?
[05:02] <Unit193> I do not know, I have USC installed
[05:02] <eaglestar> what is that?
[05:02] <Unit193> Ubuntu Software Center = USC
[05:03] <eaglestar> what is the difference?
[05:04] <Unit193> One is shorter to type
[05:05] <eaglestar> so would i need gnome or not/
[05:05] <Unit193> You would need a few depends, take a look at it and see if it's worth it
[05:10] <new2lubuntu> sorry this is slightly off topic.. but while in Lubuntu can i use setfsb through wine safely to overclock my little 1018pb
[05:11] <jmarsden> new2lubuntu: That sounds so low level hardware-related that if it works in Ubuntu , it is likely to work in Lubuntu on the same hardware.  HOWEVER, using a windows utility to mess with FSB in Linux seems... strange -- why not use a Linux utility to poke at your hardware instead?
[05:12] <new2lubuntu> i was unaware of the existence of poplular linux based fsb utilities.. im a noob.
[05:14] <new2lubuntu> any tips would be much apreciatted... eager to learn am i
[05:14] <jmarsden> I would be amazed if you can't do that in Linux, although it's not something I have done here.  Where have you looked so far?
[05:15] <bioterror> http://liliputing.com/2008/11/eee-control-for-linux-lets-you-take-control-of-your-eee-pc.html
[05:15] <new2lubuntu> well just mass google searching of "overclocking the intel atom 450"
[05:16] <jmarsden> new2lubuntu: You seem to be "new to using Google well" too... use linux in your search if you need a Linux-based result :)  Looks like bioterror found one for you.
[05:16] <new2lubuntu> got a lot more windows results
[05:16] <new2lubuntu> nice.. i knew this crew would pull through.. ill read through it now
[05:18] <new2lubuntu> haha i searched using linux as well.. just gave me a lot of how to dual boot and how to install setfsb on windows eeepc.. i could use some work though..
[05:19] <m6locks> lubuntu works ok on eeepc
[05:20] <m6locks> also tried eeexubuntu, xubuntu, eeebuntu
[05:20] <jmarsden> new2lubuntu: Also you can use apt-cache search.  I just did   apt-cache search overclock    and one of the early results is eee-applet, which seems to be exactly what you need.
[05:20] <new2lubuntu> in spm?
[05:20] <mysteriousdarren>  /join #0x71
[05:22] <jmarsden> What is "spm"?   I typed the command     apt-cache search overclock  ... Oh, sorry, that no longer exists in current versions of Ubuntu, my mistake.  I ran it under Lucid!
[05:23] <new2lubuntu> synaptic package manager.. told you im a noob
[05:24] <jmarsden> new2lubuntu: Searching for overclock in synaptic would also work, in general; on IRC it is easier to give commands to type than to give instructions about "click here, click there, right-click here"... so you tend to get given suggested things to do as commands to type at a shell prompt instead.
[05:25] <new2lubuntu> okay i like it.. just cant keep up with ya guys well yet
[05:25] <jmarsden> That's OK, you will learn :)
[05:26] <new2lubuntu> so that previous command wont work in lubuntu then, correct?
[05:27] <jmarsden> The previous command works, as in it searches the apt database for packages related to overclocking... but in *current* versions of Lubuntu, it does not find the package eee-applet, because that package no longer exists.
[05:28] <jmarsden> rmadison tells me that eee-applet existed in Lucid and Maverick, so 10.04 and 10.10 versions, only.
[05:28] <jmarsden> It has probably been replaced by something else... I just do not know what :)
[05:31] <new2lubuntu> hmm ... bummer.. im still looking into versions for linux ill figure it out.. looks like eee control is an abandoned project.. still might try it though.. i dont know if its been updated to 11.04.. says its 10 still
[05:32] <new2lubuntu> nope not trying eecontrol.. doesnt look reputable. last update way to long ago
[10:04] <ErwinJunge> I'd like to have global menu in my lxpanel. I did some googling and found this: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4D38389C.80102%40gmail.com&forum_name=lxde-list
[10:04] <ErwinJunge> Is that the only way as of now?
[10:04] <ErwinJunge> (I'm using lubuntu 11.10 beta 2)
[10:05] <NRWlion> who is calling for help?
[10:06] <otacon> ErwinJunge is
 I'd like to have global menu in my lxpanel. I did some googling and found this: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4D38389C.80102%40gmail.com&forum_name=lxde-list
 Is that the only way as of now?
 (I'm using lubuntu 11.10 beta 2)
[10:07] <NRWlion> ErwinJunge: where are you from (if i may ask)?
[10:07] <C0nfus3d> ErwinJunge: Already did pasted it in a PM :)
[10:07] <ErwinJunge> The Netherlands
[10:07] <ErwinJunge> Oh, sorry for the spam then :)
[10:07] <NRWlion> dang it ^^ can speak dutch but not write it :D
[10:07] <ErwinJunge> Haha, english will do fine :)
[10:08] <C0nfus3d> NRWlion: Just do the help and dont talk in Dutch pwase :P
[10:08] <C0nfus3d> please* :P
[10:08] <NRWlion> Erwin: thx ;)
[10:09] <C0nfus3d> Ah! Julien answered him. Then I think that will be the only way around =]
[10:09] <Unit193> C0nfus3d: Yeah, you didn't see that?
[10:10] <NRWlion> ErwinJunge: maybe this will help: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel/1789 didnt have the time to check it ... but who knows ;)
[10:10] <C0nfus3d> Unit193: I am working/partially looking @ IRC. So only I asked you to help
[10:11] <ErwinJunge> NRWlion: That's the same thing I found, just in a different location :) I'll try it and report back.
[10:12] <NRWlion> ErwinJunge: copy ^^
[10:12] <C0nfus3d> NRWlion: LOL fail :P
[10:13] <C0nfus3d> ErwinJunge: I think that is the ONly way around. I am not sure about other ways. Better ask Julien and he will respond As soon as possible
[10:15] <ErwinJunge> IAmNotThatGuy: And what is Julien
[10:15] <ErwinJunge> *'s irc name? :)
[10:15] <IAmNotThatGuy> gilir. He is currently not here
[10:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> You can memo/mail him though
[10:19] <ErwinJunge> Ok, thanks
[10:45] <ErwinJunge> Hmm... it seems that the global menu lxpanel thing has unsatisfiable dependencies (on gnome-globalmenu)
[11:05] <ErwinJunge> Ok, I installed the globalmenu lxpanel addon (first had to install gnome-globalmenu from source). How do I reload the list of available addons?
[11:05] <meways> Is anybody familar with overclocking?
[11:05] <ErwinJunge> s/addon/applet/g
[11:05] <bioterror> meways, I have overclocked my phones
[11:05] <ErwinJunge> meways: a little, could you be more specific?
[11:06] <bioterror> usually I walk to store and buy a new CPU
[11:06] <meways> I have a Dell latitude D610 overclocking is new to me
[11:06] <meways> I have the ability to modify my machine to keep it cooler
[11:06] <bioterror> you cannot overclock a laptop, next
[11:07] <meways> lol ok
[11:07] <meways> why not?
[11:07] <bioterror> check your laptop's bios
[11:08] <meways> bioterror: firmware?
[11:08] <meways> :s
[11:08] <ErwinJunge> Generally speaking it's complicated, but not impossible. Not recommended though.
[11:08] <bioterror> and there's no point in overclocking a laptop
[11:09] <bioterror> rather underclock ;)
[11:09] <ErwinJunge> meways: bios is the thing that gets started first when you press the power button. press f2 or del repeatedly to get into the setup screen. The fact that we need to tell you this however really indicates you probably shouldn't be messing with it...
[11:09] <ErwinJunge> quick reboot
[11:10] <bioterror> dell's bios has nothing
[11:10] <meways> EvilDaniel0108: ............. I know what the bios is
[13:09] <leszek> hi
[15:20] <ErwinJunge> How can I change the default editor for all text-like files? I use this machine for developing and would like to use Geany for everything, without having to specify it for every single new filetype I encounter.
[15:26] <bioterror> if someone needs DVI-cables, twisted pair (straight and crossed) cables, power cords and other stuff, welcome to pick up or I will recycle them ;)
[15:26] <bioterror> I will also carry my 3.5" HDD collection too
[15:27] <bioterror> and these are located in finland ;)
[18:11] <ErwinJunge> Is there a way to get rid of the notification message thing in the systray? (I mean the little envelope with a plus in it that keeps showing up once in a while)
[18:23] <leszek> re
[18:26] <ErwinJunge> Is anyone working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/818869 ? This seems like a quite high-profile problem to me, but can't find anything other than this very slim bugreport about it.
[20:34] <Cheapshot> Hi, is there anyway to customize the lubuntu-netbook sessions "launch window" or what ever u call it? Mainly re-organizing the programs  and changing the  colour scheme.
[22:11] <arkanabar> how do I add, say, xfce4-power-manager to the list of apps that run on login?
[22:38] <Fudge> phillw  how is accessibility going mate
[22:39] <phillw> arkanabar: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_in_to_Desktop
[22:41] <phillw> Fudge: to be totally honest, I'm having headaches just reading through the problems they seem to be having for the main ubuntu. Until they get that settled, there is no point of reference or expertise for us to ask. Don't get me wrong, we have tried to get involved, but even getting orca to work on an install is causing problems with 11.10 :(
[22:52] <Fudge> phillw  understood
[22:52] <Fudge> is it possible for you to work on lxde specific problems like the panel keyboard navigation from memory i think it is
[22:53] <Fudge> when ive tried lxde with orca i think that was a show stopper
[22:53] <Fudge> and getting the menus to speak is interesting also
[22:53] <Fudge> think i sent you all the notes i have that ive discovered across the web and from klaus knopper
[22:54] <phillw> Fudge: I am on the a11y list and they have been doing battle royale getting a11y in for 11.10 - time is ticking away really quickly now. I'm not even sure if 11.10 will be a11y compliant :(
[22:55] <Fudge> phillw  do you corrispond with themuso?
[22:55] <Fudge> isnt most of the probs unity based though
[22:56] <phillw> Fudge: I've had a couple of chats with themuso - can you pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic, please?
[23:27] <chuckhendo> I just set up Lubuntu, and my battery meter is showing "estimating" when i click on it. Can't find any information on this specific to Lubuntu. Any tips?
[23:36] <phillw> chuckhendo: battery meters are noted for their in accuracy. some of the newer ones do actually update them selves as the battery life decreases over time. It is not an exact science... If you're playing a dvd with the sound up, etc. Then you are going to drain your battery far faster :)
[23:38] <chuckhendo> phillw: sure, what i'm saying is this is a new(ish) battery and it won't give me ANYTHING. Time, percentage, nothing
[23:42] <phillw> chuckhendo: if you have 'just' set it up.. then the battery monitoring system has absouletly no idea of the health of your battery, nor how much strain you put on it. It has to learn to be able to give a realistic answer. One model of computer with a 2 year old battery, is very different to the same model with a brand new battery. I repeat, guessing battery life is not an exact science (Mine has a bout 5 minutes life.... but it has been seriously abus
[23:43] <chuckhendo> ok, so i just need to let it discharge a few times?
[23:45] <phillw> I'd suggest that. Let it learn. although wile learning, keep the mains lead handy & when your laptop screams that it needs power "NOW", do so. There are also issues with battery memory that can be partially overcome by allowing the battery to completely discharge a few times (if you choose that route, don't have programmes running!).
[23:46] <chuckhendo> Gotcha. Thanks phillw
[23:51] <mako_> ragazzi
[23:51] <mako_> mi serve aiuto
[23:51] <mako_> urgentemente
[23:51] <mako_> x la configurazione della stampante
[23:52] <mako_> #help
[23:55] <phillw> mako_: please use english
[23:55] <mako_> i need configuring
[23:55] <mako_> the printer
[23:55] <mako_> on my network
[23:56] <mako_> the error that lubuntu takes me is: client-error-not-possible
[23:56] <phillw> mako_: what make and model of printer?
[23:57] <mako_> brother hl-2035
[23:57] <Cheapshot> Is there way to customize the lubuntu-netbook "launch window"?
[23:57] <Cheapshot> I'd like to re-arrange the items and change colour scheme
[23:59] <phillw> mako_: have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-123539.html it seems brother made an error with their driver install.