| coz_ | Roasted, havent tried it,, no printer working here,, but wouldn't surprise me | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| robin0800 | Roasted, works for me but you might have to install drivers if there is no pdd for your printer | 00:05 |
| FernandoMiguel | chrome now has "Enable syncing sessions" | 00:35 |
| FernandoMiguel | Enable sessions in the sync options. This allows syncing your sessions to other clients. | 00:35 |
| robin0800 | FernandoMiguel, yes it works great between laptop and desktop | 00:36 |
| FernandoMiguel | have to try it :D | 00:36 |
| bjsnider | FernandoMiguel, which version are you using? | 00:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: 15.0.865.0 (Developer Build 98568 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10 | 00:44 |
| bjsnider | could you pastebin your .xsession-errors? | 00:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | sur | 00:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | let me check if it is safe | 00:45 |
| FernandoMiguel | -rw------- 1 bugabundo bugabundo 595K 2011-10-04 01:45 .xsession-errors | 00:45 |
| bjsnider | ok, the last 50 lines or so | 00:45 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: PM | 00:46 |
| bjsnider | fabien really needs to update chromium for oneiric, but i can't track him down | 00:50 |
| genClone | hi | 00:52 |
| genClone | im trying ubuntu 11.10... its unbelievable how many bugs there are still... | 00:53 |
| genClone | its very buggy | 00:54 |
| genClone | not halting the event to suspend (there is even no such option on the menu) | 00:54 |
| genClone | ive just installed the propietary ATI driver, and now the splash screen is like veryyyyy very low resolution | 00:54 |
| genClone | even the installation bar progress didnt run properly.... | 00:55 |
| dr_willis | plymouth and the prop. drivers often fight. :-( | 00:55 |
| genClone | some times, max close and min button dont come up | 00:57 |
| genClone | and also, sometimes, the wifi manager is not working (showing no networks) although it's connected to my network | 01:00 |
| robin0800 | genClone, iv'e got both suspend and hibernate have you run update manager yet? | 01:00 |
| genClone | robin0800: yes, it's totally updated | 01:00 |
| genClone | to be honest i've got those problem with suspend and hibernate since the 10.10.... but didnt care about | 01:02 |
| genClone | hope to be fixed in this version... | 01:02 |
| robin0800 | genClone, is this a clean install? | 01:03 |
| genClone | robin0800: yes, it is.... | 01:03 |
| genClone | all disk formated | 01:03 |
| AAA_awright | Where do I go to set the screen DPI? | 01:28 |
| robin0800 | AAA_awright, not sure you can if you find out please let us know | 01:35 |
| AAA_awright | I *used* to be able to under the last release | 01:36 |
| AAA_awright | I can't find it anymore | 01:36 |
| AAA_awright | And actually Ubuntu completely erased all my UI settings including DPI and desktop background | 01:36 |
| jbicha | AAA_awright: what was your background? | 01:41 |
| AAA_awright | It was a wallpaper out of ~/Pictures | 01:41 |
| AAA_awright | Of my own | 01:41 |
| AAA_awright | Specifically from Penny Arcade, set to Zoom | 01:41 |
| jbicha | hmm, well a lot of setting migrated from gconf to gsettings, maybe that one didn't copy over | 01:42 |
| AAA_awright | I had a few more added that I could switch between, those seemed to have disappeared | 01:42 |
| AAA_awright | I can't point out any UI settings that copied over | 01:42 |
| AAA_awright | Also, the power manager is running on startup again, which is a problem: Unplugging this laptop causes the system to freeze after showing a message that the power is "Critically low" | 01:43 |
| Tohuw | Hi, can someone running a clean 11.10 give me the output of dpkg --get-selections|grep indicator-* ? | 01:50 |
| Tohuw | More specifically, someone who did NOT upgrade to 11.10, but used a fresh install, and has never installed Evolution | 01:50 |
| jbicha | AAA_awright: for power, install dconf-editor and navigate to org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power and try unchecking the active box | 01:50 |
| AAA_awright | That appears to be in the dconf-tools package | 01:51 |
| jbicha | yes | 01:52 |
| AAA_awright | gnome-settings-daemon just crashed | 01:53 |
| AAA_awright | But the setting seems to be changed | 01:53 |
| AAA_awright | Is the battery supposed to show when I'm plugged in? | 01:54 |
| AAA_awright | the icon, I mean | 01:54 |
| johnjohn101 | when i quit banshee, my song still plays | 01:58 |
| jbicha | AAA_awright: yes the power icon always shows (if you have a battery) but not if you unchec that box | 01:59 |
| Tohuw | Where can I view a complete list of packages selected in a default 11.10 x86_64 desktop install? | 02:00 |
| jbicha | but turning off power is usually a bad idea | 02:00 |
| jbicha | maybe you need to just set critical-battery-action to nothing | 02:01 |
| bjsnider | Tohuw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/702014/ | 02:03 |
| jbicha | AAA_awright: I probably don't have enough information to be giving you random tips | 02:03 |
| Tohuw | bjsnider: fantastic, thanks | 02:04 |
| bjsnider | Tohuw, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/oneiric-desktop-amd64.list | 02:04 |
| bjsnider | that's your second question | 02:04 |
| Tohuw | Even more thanks | 02:04 |
| * Tohuw heaps gratitude on bjsnider | 02:05 | |
| sindile | just upgraded to oneiric and my other repositories have disabled on upgrade to oneiric how do i change this | 02:05 |
| ActionParsnip | sindile: open software centre and re-enable them, not all of them may not support oneiric | 02:05 |
| Tohuw | hmmm, bjsnider, that only seems to list the files in the image... I was hoping for an exhaustive list of package selections. :( Oh well, your first answer told me what I really needed to know. | 02:06 |
| bjsnider | that list is what's insalled in an ubuntu-desktop | 02:06 |
| bjsnider | i must have misunderstood your question | 02:07 |
| Tohuw | Understood, but it isn't the package selections. In other words, what I really want is the complete dump of dpkg --get-selections right after a fresh 11.10 desktop x64 install | 02:07 |
| bjsnider | wait, no it isn't | 02:08 |
| bjsnider | this is: | 02:08 |
| bjsnider | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/oneiric-desktop-amd64.manifest | 02:08 |
| bjsnider | the manifest | 02:08 |
| bjsnider | all of the cds and dvds have manifests i think | 02:09 |
| Tohuw | aha! perfect. Thanks, bjsnider | 02:09 |
| genClone | another bug, I get different active resolution depending if I look at it in System Settings - System Info and Top-Right corner and Display | 02:30 |
| jschall | how usable is 11.10 beta 2? | 04:11 |
| Nattgew | compiz still crashes for me | 04:11 |
| jschall | Nattgew: compiz was the reason i swapped to kde... it still exists? | 04:12 |
| Nattgew | yeah... was really good before upgrade | 04:12 |
| jschall | Nattgew: i never liked it. it wasn't integrated well. | 04:12 |
| jschall | Nattgew: or it didn't feel well-integrated | 04:13 |
| jschall | Nattgew: whereas kde's felt flawlessly integrated. | 04:13 |
| Nattgew | jschall: integrated how? | 04:16 |
| jbicha | jschall: Unity 3D is a compiz plugin | 04:16 |
| jschall | jbicha: i couldn't use unity when i tried it in natty... it was awful, i ran into bugs or usability issues immediately... | 04:17 |
| jschall | Nattgew: i don't know. feels like the defaults are more sane, has a good configuration utility that's easy to access | 04:17 |
| jschall | Nattgew: whereas configuring compiz was a nightmare as i remember it | 04:18 |
| jschall | Nattgew: and it wasn't configured right by default | 04:18 |
| jschall | jbicha: i'm not really familiar with unity. i tried it when my mom got her new laptop before i switched it to kde for her | 04:19 |
| jschall | jbicha: system76 laptop | 04:19 |
| jbicha | jschall: well one nice thing about Ubuntu is that there are lots of desktops you can use, Unity 11.10 is generally better than 11.04 but it's not for everyone | 04:20 |
| jschall | jbicha: i just was looking at gnome 3 | 04:20 |
| jschall | jbicha: screenshots and stuff | 04:20 |
| jschall | jbicha: and i want it so bad. | 04:20 |
| jschall | jbicha: but i hated unity. it was so horrible. | 04:21 |
| Nattgew | jschall: Gnome 3 is cool but it seemed worse to me than Unity | 04:21 |
| jschall | Nattgew: buggy? | 04:21 |
| jbicha | jschall: if you're using (K)ubuntu 11.10, gnome-shell is an easy install away | 04:21 |
| jschall | Nattgew: or what? | 04:21 |
| ali1234 | gnome-shell seems less buggy than unity | 04:21 |
| ali1234 | but just a lot more complicated and annoying | 04:22 |
| ali1234 | i thought it looked good in the screenshots too | 04:22 |
| Nattgew | jschall: not buggy, it's just that while Unity is still sort of traditional desktop, Gnome 3 changed even more | 04:22 |
| jschall | Nattgew: i've wanted to move away from the "traditional desktop" for a while. | 04:22 |
| ali1234 | gnome-shell is still a traditional desktop | 04:23 |
| jschall | Nattgew: because i don't ever use the desktop. kde has all these widgets and crap to put on your desktop and i never use a single one, its just blank and i cover it up with a maximized browser window. | 04:23 |
| ali1234 | just with a much more complicated workspace manager | 04:23 |
| Nattgew | jschall: me too... it's hard to find an interface that works for me, though | 04:23 |
| jschall | and the windows-style taskbar is totally dated... | 04:24 |
| Nattgew | ali1234: yeah, that's what I meant... the desktop is pretty much the only constant | 04:24 |
| ali1234 | the taskbar is still the most efficient way of switching between windows if you have more than about 3 | 04:25 |
| ali1234 | unless you use one of those keyboard only WMs | 04:25 |
| jschall | i'd rather have something where i hit a button and it pops up a row or column of my windows, ordered by most recent use, with previews | 04:26 |
| jschall | and then i could just click on one | 04:26 |
| ali1234 | "ordered by most recent use" is a big problem for me | 04:26 |
| jschall | similar to alt-tab but modified a bit | 04:26 |
| ali1234 | i don't like having to hunt around for things | 04:26 |
| ali1234 | stuff should stay where i put it | 04:26 |
| ali1234 | not moved around all the time based on what the computer thinks i want | 04:27 |
| jschall | ali1234: ok, so maybe separate buttons? one for recents, one for alphabetical? | 04:27 |
| Nattgew | jschall: interesting idea... | 04:27 |
| ali1234 | or how about... just keep them in the order i opened them in | 04:27 |
| jschall | it's just like what android does, you hold the home button and it pops up your recently used apps | 04:27 |
| ali1234 | and then we could keep it on the screen all the time | 04:27 |
| ali1234 | and call it a task bar | 04:28 |
| jschall | ali1234: i love it! | 04:28 |
| jschall | ali1234: =P | 04:28 |
| jschall | my problem is, i end up with more windows open than the taskbar can reasonably handle. | 04:29 |
| ali1234 | i actually like the expose switching except for one thing | 04:29 |
| ali1234 | which is that the windows move around every time | 04:29 |
| jschall | for example, multiple terminals | 04:29 |
| jschall | and i can't tell which terminal to click | 04:29 |
| ali1234 | they should be arranged based on where they are on the screen, so that you can just remember which one is which, without having to look at the tiny previews | 04:29 |
| jschall | and the previews are too small to read the text in the terminal | 04:29 |
| ali1234 | (which btw, are broken in oneiric. sometimes you just get a white rectangle instead of the window) | 04:29 |
| jschall | and i can't even read the name of the window because i have so many windows open that there isn't any text, just icons. | 04:30 |
| ali1234 | yes | 04:30 |
| ali1234 | which brings the other issue | 04:30 |
| ali1234 | unity has to have a mode that isolates workspaces | 04:30 |
| ali1234 | clicking thelauncher should never take me to another workspace | 04:30 |
| ali1234 | and expose should only show windows on this workspace | 04:30 |
| jschall | ali1234: oh, that was one major, major thing that i hated about unity. it kept swapping me to different workspaces | 04:30 |
| ali1234 | yeah it's really annoying | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | you're doing something in one workspace | 04:31 |
| jschall | ali1234: and i didn't understand why it was doing it | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | then you go to another one to check your email | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | you have to follow something up so you try to open a terminal to check something | 04:31 |
| jschall | ali1234: and i didn't understand how to manually change workspaces | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | but instead of getting the terminal on this workspcae, or a new window, it instead takes you back to what you were doing before | 04:31 |
| jschall | ali1234: and i have no idea how the average user would figure those out if i couldn't. | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | then you have to switch back | 04:32 |
| ali1234 | and this time, middle click on the terminal icon | 04:32 |
| ali1234 | which doesn't even work for all apps | 04:32 |
| ali1234 | if you middle click gedit you get a new tab, not a new window | 04:32 |
| Nattgew | i like how windows has the shift click for new windows | 04:32 |
| ali1234 | i'm not sure how i'm supposed to view to source files side by side with the awesome window snapping feature, when it won't let me open two windows | 04:32 |
| jschall | so anyway, there's only 10 days till release, is 11.10 beta 2 good enough to start using? | 04:33 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: I'd say so but others have had a hard time with it | 04:33 |
| jschall | guess i could just virtualize it... | 04:33 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: so in reply all I can say is "maybe" | 04:33 |
| jschall | how can i remove unity on 11.10? | 04:33 |
| jschall | i'm going to play with it in a VM | 04:34 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: use XFCE, KDE or some other DE | 04:34 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: i want to try gnome3. | 04:34 |
| IdleOne | !notunity | 04:34 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: just without unity... because i already know unity blows chunks. | 04:34 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: then use gnome shell instead of unity | 04:34 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu Oneiric uses GNOME 3 with the !Unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell on Oneiric, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place a new entry in the Sessions dropdown on the login window. | 04:34 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: works fine here | 04:34 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: cool | 04:35 |
| jschall | just totally not familiar with gnome any more | 04:35 |
| ali1234 | yeah... neither gnome shell nor unity(3d) works particularly well in a VM because of the requirement on accelerated graphics | 04:35 |
| ActionParsnip | ali1234: use unity2d then... | 04:35 |
| jschall | ali1234: eh, i think virtualbox can handle it. | 04:35 |
| ali1234 | expect it to glitch out, corrupt the display, or just not load at all | 04:35 |
| Nattgew | Gnome shell wouldn't run on my netbook while Unity would... | 04:35 |
| ali1234 | virtualbox is what i use | 04:35 |
| ActionParsnip | ali1234: you can get basic 3d in vms | 04:35 |
| jschall | 3d works pretty well in virtualbox. | 04:35 |
| ali1234 | basic, extremely buggy 3d, yeah | 04:35 |
| ali1234 | it works about as well as nouveau | 04:36 |
| ActionParsnip | ali1234: yes but it does exist | 04:36 |
| ActionParsnip | nouveau rocks | 04:36 |
| ali1234 | it crashes within about 5 minutes whenever i try to use it | 04:36 |
| jschall | i hear vmware's 3d support rocks pretty hard. | 04:36 |
| ali1234 | to put it another way, it works about as well as either of the ati drivers | 04:36 |
| jschall | but vmware workstation expensive, right? | 04:36 |
| ActionParsnip | ali1234: works fine on my 6150LE onboard 512Mb | 04:37 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: VMWare workstation is free as in beer | 04:37 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: it is? | 04:37 |
| ActionParsnip | ahh workstation isnt free | 04:38 |
| ActionParsnip | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware | 04:38 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: 30-day evaluation | 04:38 |
| ali1234 | player is free | 04:38 |
| ActionParsnip | player is free | 04:38 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: $199.00 | 04:38 |
| jschall | i don't think player has the 3d support | 04:39 |
| Nattgew | they do have free products... vmware server? | 04:39 |
| ActionParsnip | nextag have VM workstation for 180 USD | 04:39 |
| ActionParsnip | server is free according to the link | 04:40 |
| jschall | will drivers for virtualbox 3d be installed by ubuntu automatically? | 04:41 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: its part of a default install, you can install guest additions also | 04:44 |
| jschall | alright, it is installing in a VM! | 04:52 |
| jschall | ooooooooooor not! | 04:52 |
| jschall | the installer encountered an error transferring files to the hard disk | 04:53 |
| ali1234 | don't clikc "download updates" | 04:53 |
| jschall | didn't. | 04:53 |
| ali1234 | i dunno then | 04:53 |
| jschall | i was just about to comment that the new installer looked cool | 04:53 |
| jschall | and then it just did that. | 04:54 |
| jschall | i wish virtualbox didn't trap alttab | 04:54 |
| jschall | i'm sure there's a way to change that... | 04:54 |
| jschall | it seemed to happen immediately after i chose a timezone | 04:55 |
| ali1234 | that stuff runs in parallel | 04:55 |
| jschall | no, it's not related to timezone | 04:56 |
| jschall | it says errno 5: input/output error | 04:56 |
| jschall | just going to screw with virtualbox settings... | 04:58 |
| jschall | maybe my iso is corrupt... | 05:02 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: did you md5 test the iso? | 05:16 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: can't find an md5 for it. just redownloading from a different source | 05:16 |
| ActionParsnip | !hash | 05:17 |
| ActionParsnip | !hashes | 05:17 |
| ubottu | See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs. | 05:17 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: no betas there | 05:18 |
| ActionParsnip | http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/MD5SUMS | 05:18 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: i already redownloaded from another source. | 05:18 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: still needs checking | 05:18 |
| jschall | i highly doubt it was a corrupt file anyway... | 05:18 |
| ActionParsnip | it needs testing so that you know the data you are using is error free and complete | 05:19 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: one i just downloaded matches, one i downloaded before doesn't. | 05:20 |
| ActionParsnip | jschall: thats why you should ALWAYS check the download | 05:22 |
| jschall | ActionParsnip: and no error | 05:22 |
| jschall | well, 3d stuff isn't working... | 05:40 |
| jschall | glxgears runs, but at 500fps vs 8500 fps on host | 05:40 |
| jschall | whatever, i'll just install on this laptop i have sitting right here... | 05:41 |
| Kiranos | [11:29:26] <Kiranos> Hi I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and my desktop goes into hybernate or something after 1h and the only thing returning it is one press on the powerbutton on the chassi | 05:59 |
| Kiranos | [11:29:33] <Kiranos> I'm not using a laptop | 05:59 |
| Kiranos | [11:29:43] <Kiranos> is there a way to turn this off? | 05:59 |
| Kiranos | [11:29:47] <Kiranos> I dont see why its there on a desktop | 05:59 |
| Kiranos | [11:30:06] <Kiranos> power is set as "Don't suspend" | 05:59 |
| Kiranos | anyone know of this? | 05:59 |
| AAA_awright | Kiranos: My laptop is doing bizarre things with power too | 06:02 |
| susundberg | If you have checked powermanagement settings at least i do not have any clue | 06:02 |
| AAA_awright | Randomly suspending while I'm using it | 06:02 |
| AAA_awright | I haven't played with it too much since disabling power management but I'll see what effect that had | 06:02 |
| AAA_awright | And it doesn't actually suspend, it freezes | 06:04 |
| AAA_awright | Completely dead, Alt+Ctrl+Fx does nothing, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does nothing | 06:05 |
| jbicha | Kiranos: are you using the latest version of gnome-settings-daemon? | 06:05 |
| Kiranos | I have to use powerbutton and it comes down | 06:05 |
| Kiranos | jbicha: I have latest packages in the repo nothing custom | 06:05 |
| Kiranos | as long as more people have such issues I'm happy, just as long as its not a feautre :) | 06:06 |
| jbicha | !info gnome-settings-daemon oneiric | 06:08 |
| ubottu | gnome-settings-daemon (source: gnome-settings-daemon): daemon handling the GNOME session settings. In component main, is extra. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 437 kB, installed size 1536 kB | 06:08 |
| jbicha | Kiranos: are you using that version ^ | 06:08 |
| Kiranos | apt-cache show gnome-settings-daemon|grep Version | 06:10 |
| Kiranos | Version: 3.2.0-0ubuntu4 | 06:10 |
| Ian_Corne | you can also use policy Kiranos :p | 06:10 |
| Ian_Corne | apt-cache policy gnome-settings-daemon | 06:10 |
| Kiranos | ah ok | 06:12 |
| Kiranos | gnome-settings-daemon: | 06:12 |
| Kiranos | Installerad: 3.2.0-0ubuntu4 | 06:12 |
| Kiranos | Kandidat: 3.2.0-0ubuntu4 | 06:12 |
| Kiranos | * swedish | 06:12 |
| Kiranos | but I think its understandable | 06:12 |
| jbicha | Kiranos: pastebin the output of gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power | 06:12 |
| Kiranos | http://pastebin.com/wUKLEUYw | 06:13 |
| jbicha | Kiranos: ok, those look like the defaults, and you're still having problems with autosuspend after you updated? | 06:15 |
| Kiranos | jbicha: yes I had it yesterday | 06:18 |
| Kiranos | I dont know if this package updated since then? I just rebooted my computer | 06:18 |
| Kiranos | after tonights updates | 06:18 |
| Kiranos | When I came to work about 30mins ago it was in hybernate | 06:19 |
| Kiranos | or autosuspend might be the correct word | 06:20 |
| jbicha | Kiranos: you can look for the exact time of update in /var/log/apt/history.log | 06:21 |
| jbicha | -0ubuntu4 fixed a lot of the problems, we're trying to see what issues remain after that update | 06:21 |
| Kiranos | Start-Date: 2011-10-04 07:59:02 | 06:22 |
| Kiranos | gnome-settings-daemon:i386 (3.2.0-0ubuntu3, 3.2.0-0ubuntu4), | 06:22 |
| Kiranos | this might have fixed it | 06:22 |
| Kiranos | jbicha: I'll come back here if it still exist but it probably fixed then today | 06:22 |
| Kiranos | thanks for the help! | 06:22 |
| Kiranos | date | 06:23 |
| Kiranos | tis 4 okt 2011 08.23.08 CEST | 06:23 |
| jbicha | oh good :) | 06:24 |
| DoverOs | does anyone know how to install the sound menu? | 06:50 |
| DoverOs | or is anyone even here? | 06:53 |
| DoverOs | idle idle idle | 06:56 |
| DoverOs | keep them doggies idle | 06:56 |
| DoverOs | rawhide | 06:56 |
| Ian_Corne | :) | 06:57 |
| DoverOs | person | 06:59 |
| SMJ | I have LC_ALL="fi_FI.UTF-8" as the last line in my .bashrc and when I try 'locale' it still says LC_ALL is undefined | 07:47 |
| SMJ | in what configuration file should I put my LC_ALL? | 07:49 |
| SMJ | I'm really getting fed up with Ubuntu | 07:50 |
| SMJ | I don't have time for this | 07:53 |
| oal | What time zone is the daily builds uploaded in? Latest builds are 03-Oct-2011 08:xx | 08:11 |
| benoliver999 | How do I create a custom launcher now? | 08:16 |
| benoliver999 | I want to get celtx in the unity bar, but it seems to only run through terminal. | 08:17 |
| benoliver999 | I just need a launcher that runs a command when I click it. | 08:18 |
| jbicha | oal: unless specified otherwise, I'd assume the servers are UTC | 08:21 |
| oal | The 64bit isos are up now, jbicha :) | 08:22 |
| daavis | hey, is it possible to remove panel on the left? | 08:34 |
| daavis | just panel.. nothing else | 08:34 |
| === timblechmann is now known as tim | ||
| daavis | hey, is it possible to remove panel on the left? | 08:58 |
| daavis | just panel.. nothing else | 08:58 |
| Adys | What broke usb? | 09:11 |
| Adys | udev seems to be completely broken or something | 09:12 |
| Adys | pulseaudio cant see any of my usb devices, i cant mount my external hard drives, it takes ages to boot and i get some /lib/udev/mtp-probe spam | 09:13 |
| Adys | in fact | 09:14 |
| Adys | http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-627410-initscript-assumes-lib-udev-mtp-probe-there-when-its-not-help-203412872.html | 09:14 |
| Adys | brb | 09:14 |
| Adys | mtp-runtime seems to fix it all... this should be a dep really | 09:20 |
| bhavesh_ | I installed GDM, GNOME 3 shell yesterday When I booted today morning, my GRUB 4 seconds counter wasent ticking, default option was recovery mode and when I selected 11.10 BETA 2 from list it just showed black screen | 09:55 |
| bhavesh_ | which remains forever... | 09:56 |
| bhavesh_ | I also updated my Ubuntu yesterday which included an GRUB update | 09:56 |
| bhavesh_ | so there | 09:56 |
| bhavesh_ | there;s a problem in GRUB, how am I supposed to fix it if I cannot boot into Ubuntu? | 09:56 |
| dust__ | hi | 10:41 |
| dust__ | anyone here can help me with an issue i got on kubuntu beta2 using kleopatra (gnupg)? | 10:42 |
| dust__ | is there another channel for kubuntu beta2? | 10:42 |
| dust__ | any hints appreciated :) - maybe i'm in the wrong channel and just don't know | 10:45 |
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| rajmahendra | Anyone help me how to install GNOME3 on Ubuntu 11.10 ? | 11:10 |
| rajmahendra | Is it possible to install GNOME3 on Ubuntu 11.10 ? | 11:13 |
| bazhang | rajmahendra, gnome-shell ? | 11:17 |
| bazhang | !info gnome-shell | 11:18 |
| ubottu | gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 1041 kB, installed size 4864 kB | 11:18 |
| KM0201 | so gnome 3 will not be fully implemented in 11.10/ | 11:19 |
| bazhang | KM0201, which part are you referring to as being not fully implemented | 11:20 |
| KM0201 | bazhang: ie, stable (id hardly consider gnome-shell stable) | 11:20 |
| bazhang | more of a gnome issue is it not? | 11:21 |
| KM0201 | bazhang: probably, but iv'e used gnome 3 under Fedora, and while i think it sucks, it's stable | 11:21 |
| bazhang | then stick with something pre 11.10 | 11:22 |
| KM0201 | well, i just switched to lxde | 11:22 |
| KM0201 | all is good int he world | 11:22 |
| bazhang | :) | 11:22 |
| KM0201 | thank heavens for choice | 11:22 |
| alexd285 | hello, how I can clean "aptitude -f install", it recons to install unwanted packages that I have removed like mysql php and apache | 11:40 |
| rajmahendra | i want to install GNOME 3 | 11:50 |
| bazhang | rajmahendra, gnome-shell ? | 11:50 |
| rajmahendra | yes | 11:51 |
| Pici | !notunity | 11:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu Oneiric uses GNOME 3 with the !Unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell on Oneiric, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place a new entry in the Sessions dropdown on the login window. | 11:51 |
| rajmahendra | Pici, this is same one available on fedora right ? | 11:53 |
| samjam | Since upgrading to 11.10, but ubuntu box goes to sleep after about half an hour, even if it has active ssh logins and active NFS mounts. | 12:02 |
| samjam | This leads to disabling the eth port, and in turn causes kernel deadlocks when flush over nfs fails | 12:02 |
| samjam | Sleeping with files open over nfs is a bad idea anyway, especially if locks are held | 12:03 |
| samjam | any tips to stop it doing this? Also I noticed that the screen blanks every 15 minutes or so even though screen-saver is disabled | 12:04 |
| zmbmartin | I have an HP Envy 17 and the clickpad does not work very well. I have tried a few things I have read for older ubuntu versions to no success. I also read that it should be fully supported out of the box in 11.04 and 11.10? | 12:04 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:06 |
| dsathe | where does empathy get its proxies from | 13:23 |
| dsathe | ? | 13:23 |
| dsathe | ever since i moved to 3.2 it does not seem to recogonise proxies | 13:23 |
| Pici | What do you mean by 'proxies'? | 13:24 |
| dsathe | http proxy, https proxy | 13:25 |
| dsathe | etc | 13:25 |
| Pici | Ah. | 13:26 |
| Pici | Sorry, misunderstood what you were asking. | 13:26 |
| dsathe | :) | 13:26 |
| sharpshooter | hai friends !! I upgraded my ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 . after upgrading the os I found that the sound preview in nautilus is not working . I googled it and I got that I need a package called sushi . and I also got the installation cammands from webupd8 but it says that unable to lacate package sushi .. so what I want to do for getting the previewer back to my os . | 13:35 |
| dsathe | sudo apt-get update | 13:35 |
| dsathe | did you run that one | 13:35 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, ya I did that but no luck | 13:36 |
| Pretto | how can i log a nautilus core dump? apport didnt detect that nautilus crash | 13:36 |
| Pretto | I got a core dump everytime I double click on any folder | 13:37 |
| iceroot | Pretto: ubuntu-bug nautilus if you want to create a bug against it in launchpad | 13:37 |
| zmbmartin | How do I get my HP synaptics touchpad "clickpad" working? I tried setting plugins false in dconf and using my own synaptics.conf settings that work in Archlinux but still no luck. | 13:38 |
| zmbmartin | I tried gpointing-device-settings | 13:38 |
| Pretto | iceroot: i did that once and they asked me for a trace file | 13:38 |
| zmbmartin | And I have tried some things that came up with google. | 13:38 |
| iceroot | Pretto: "strace nautilus" and then do the task which is killing nautilus | 13:45 |
| iceroot | Pretto: i guess you have to install strace first | 13:45 |
| sharpshooter | Anyone know how to get a nautilus previewer in ubuntu 11.10 when I upgraded to 11.10 my nautilus previewer is not working ! | 13:55 |
| xgt001 | sharpshooter, try searching for a ppa... but ppa for a beta isnt advisable | 14:05 |
| xgt001 | Persona24, so whats the state of your issue now? | 14:06 |
| Persona24 | xgt001, Flash is working but that was a weird glitch. Like I don't even understand how that could happen | 14:07 |
| sharpshooter | xgt001, I tried the webupd8 but I got the error the unable to lacate package sushi | 14:07 |
| xgt001 | sharpshooter, the repositories may not contain all packages yet... | 14:08 |
| dsathe | sushi ought to be in core oneric repos | 14:08 |
| xgt001 | xgt001, try chrome which has an older version of flash | 14:08 |
| dsathe | its a gnome - extar thing | 14:08 |
| dsathe | not a freebee | 14:08 |
| xgt001 | dsathe, is the package name exactly sushi> | 14:09 |
| Persona24 | xgt001, it's working fine now, I'm just confused. How could the sound card effect the speed of my flash player? | 14:09 |
| sharpshooter | xgt001, so any other previewer for ubunt | 14:10 |
| dsathe | packages.ubuntu.com/sushi | 14:10 |
| xgt001 | Persona24, well it depends on the output channel too i guess ...i am not too sure | 14:10 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, is working in ubuntu 11.10 | 14:10 |
| Pretto | iceroot: thank you,I did the bug report | 14:10 |
| Persona24 | xgt001, is me running Ubuntu along side Windows effect anything at all? | 14:11 |
| dsathe | no clue | 14:11 |
| xgt001 | Persona24, nope.. it shouldnt cause any side-effects at all | 14:12 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, in repositories the sushi package is a D-bus based IRC suite not a previewer | 14:13 |
| dsathe | O.o | 14:14 |
| dsathe | funny | 14:14 |
| Persona24 | xgt001, alright. . . Well this is just weird than lol | 14:14 |
| sharpshooter | oh !! man | 14:14 |
| Persona24 | xgt001, it's working fine though. I've watched three youtube videos | 14:15 |
| iceroot | what program is controling the fan-speed? is it lm-sensors? my fan doesnt spin after some minutes, the netbook is getting hot and i want to create a bug but dont know against what package | 14:16 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, what nautilus previewer are you using | 14:16 |
| sharpshooter | ? | 14:16 |
| xgt001 | sharpshooter, what exactly did u mean by a previewer btw? | 14:17 |
| xgt001 | iceroot, is this problem specific to 11.10 or did u experience the same before in natty | 14:19 |
| iceroot | xgt001: only in 11.10 (2 days is guess. before i didnt saw the issue in 11.10 | 14:20 |
| sharpshooter | xgt001, I mean the nautilus sushi I dot it form this vedio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hUGLilYO-s | 14:20 |
| xgt001 | may be a bug with 3.0x kernel... apparently phoronix has seen some "regressions" from kernel 2.6.38 to 3.0x series... phoronix is not so dependable though | 14:22 |
| iceroot | xgt001: i think so, also i am getting kernel-panics when pluggin of the ac-adapter | 14:23 |
| dsathe | sharpshooter: i use sushi | 14:23 |
| xgt001 | sharpshooter, its not yet uploaded...webupd8 may have updated nautilus-sushi in their ppa.... | 14:23 |
| dsathe | i moved to arch a week back | 14:23 |
| xgt001 | iceroot, thats really not expected... file a bug with linux package | 14:23 |
| iceroot | xgt001: first i check if "dist-upgrade" has something new for me | 14:24 |
| xgt001 | xgt001, check uname -a and tell the output | 14:24 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, where did u got that can I get the link | 14:25 |
| iceroot | xgt001: Linux eeebuntu 3.0.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 23 21:18:13 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux | 14:25 |
| dsathe | archlinux | 14:25 |
| dsathe | ?? | 14:25 |
| sharpshooter | Hmm ok ... | 14:25 |
| dsathe | sharpshooter: are you relatively new to linux ? | 14:26 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, yes !1 | 14:26 |
| xgt001 | iceroot, hmmm....... the issue might be fixed in the release.... still i think its better to file a bug report | 14:26 |
| dsathe | it would be a great learning exp to use arch at the same time i warn you you will pull your hair out if you are not the rtfm types | 14:27 |
| iceroot | xgt001: i will of course but as my first question said, what package is controlling the fan-speed so that i can file a bug against the correct package. | 14:27 |
| dsathe | its not as simple to setup , use as ubuntu, get a feel of thigs for a while | 14:27 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, I am using linux from last two weaks | 14:27 |
| dsathe | and you can explore then on | 14:27 |
| dsathe | give it some more tuime | 14:28 |
| dsathe | arch ships without gui , without sound and any desktop env | 14:28 |
| dsathe | so u need to know a few basics | 14:28 |
| dsathe | although it has the best wiki ever | 14:28 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, thanks for your advice | 14:28 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, so I need to install all those stuff after installing arch linux | 14:29 |
| sharpshooter | ? | 14:29 |
| xgt001 | iceroot, its the "linux" package i mean the kernel | 14:29 |
| dsathe | you will not have a gui | 14:29 |
| xgt001 | iceroot, lm-sensors doesnt control the fan speeds afaik | 14:29 |
| dsathe | ;) | 14:29 |
| dsathe | raw linux , a brilliant pacman, gnu toolchain and kernel | 14:29 |
| dsathe | build ur os to your taste | 14:29 |
| dsathe | one step short of gentoo | 14:30 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, it uses the command line interface | 14:30 |
| dsathe | IMHO you should get a bit more acustom to linux on ubuntu first | 14:30 |
| dsathe | yep | 14:30 |
| dsathe | it ships with a cli | 14:30 |
| dsathe | you choose from a host of de for a gui | 14:31 |
| xgt001 | anyone knows if catalyst 11.9 is available for 11.10? | 14:31 |
| dsathe | u have gnome in ubuntu | 14:31 |
| dsathe | ppl may choose kde , xfce,lxde,openbox,flubox,pure x | 14:31 |
| xgt001 | dsathe, whats pure x? | 14:31 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, ok .. so I need to grab all those tutorials for setting up arch linux , right ? | 14:32 |
| dsathe | and a windo manager could be compiz,metacity , gnome2(mate), kwin, or xmonad or watever | 14:32 |
| dsathe | xgt001: i meant no de at all | 14:32 |
| dsathe | jsut xserver installed | 14:32 |
| dsathe | with stock window management | 14:32 |
| xgt001 | dsathe, arch cant be setup if i am online using mobile gprs rite? | 14:33 |
| dsathe | true | 14:33 |
| dsathe | i mean you could | 14:33 |
| dsathe | but wouldnt be smart | 14:33 |
| dsathe | slow and costly | 14:33 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, so if I am using wifi can I able to install all those xstuffs in arch | 14:34 |
| dsathe | yes | 14:34 |
| xgt001 | dsathe, how about usb modem? | 14:34 |
| dsathe | but u will have to use commandline to connect | 14:34 |
| iceroot | xgt001: the kernel himself? not any acpid-things? | 14:34 |
| xgt001 | afaik arch doesnt contain the drivers for usb modem too rite? | 14:34 |
| dsathe | xgt001: i have never used a usb modem in cli | 14:34 |
| dsathe | always did it over lan or wifi | 14:34 |
| dsathe | but i am sure u can | 14:34 |
| dsathe | though it will add additional compluications | 14:35 |
| dsathe | u will need usbmodeswitch data | 14:35 |
| dsathe | and some tools | 14:35 |
| dsathe | to setup the thing | 14:35 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, I'm going for downloading the arch linux | 14:35 |
| dsathe | so i doubt | 14:35 |
| dsathe | the beginner archwiki is brilliant | 14:35 |
| dsathe | sharpshooter: ubuntu is more comfortable | 14:36 |
| dsathe | installing apps i way easier | 14:36 |
| xgt001 | iceroot, yes | 14:36 |
| dsathe | xgt001: arch contains them all | 14:36 |
| dsathe | its he same kernel :P | 14:36 |
| iceroot | xgt001: ok i will create it, if it is wrong i guess someone will correct it. thank you for the info | 14:37 |
| dsathe | all drivers are kernel space | 14:37 |
| SMJ | is anyone else close to defenestrating their monitor when dealing with the new desktops? | 14:37 |
| dsathe | and any external ones can be jollywell compiled | 14:37 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, I felt that too .. now i am thinking that arch from arch I can gain more knowledge | 14:37 |
| bjsnider | sharpshooter, the old sound previewer has been deprecated in favour of sushi. i am packaging sushi right now, but we haven't settled on a name yet, so i don't want to release it in a ppa | 14:38 |
| bjsnider | i asked the webupd8 guy to take down his post until the name issue was settled and he complied | 14:38 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, thanks for that information | 14:39 |
| bjsnider | the thing with sushi is, you have to be using gnome-shell. it will not work with unity because it needs clutter and unity uses compiz | 14:39 |
| dsathe | bjsnider: sushi is not officially named by gnome yet ? | 14:39 |
| xgt001 | any idea about catalyst 11.9 and ubuntu 11.10 | 14:39 |
| dsathe | true | 14:39 |
| bjsnider | the official gnome name is sushi | 14:39 |
| bjsnider | but we cannot use that in debian because ther's already a src:sushi | 14:40 |
| dsathe | oh the packaging name | 14:40 |
| dsathe | cool cool | 14:40 |
| bjsnider | and the upstream packaging for that thing also builds a sushi.deb | 14:40 |
| dsathe | so it will have the shell as a depend | 14:40 |
| bjsnider | no | 14:40 |
| bjsnider | forcing someone to install gnome-shell doesn't mean they are going to run it | 14:41 |
| dsathe | true | 14:41 |
| misse_ | what is sushi? | 14:41 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, I asked the same question in gnome channel they said that there is no package named sushi | 14:41 |
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| bjsnider | what gnome channel? | 14:41 |
| sharpshooter | #gnome | 14:42 |
| bjsnider | gnome has their own irc server - irc.gnome.org | 14:42 |
| bjsnider | i don't know who's in the one you're looking at | 14:42 |
| bjsnider | i talked to the developer yesterday, and he is not going to change the name, so sushi is what it is called | 14:42 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, oh I think gone for a wrong channel | 14:43 |
| dsathe | sharpshooter: sushi exists | 14:43 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, sounds good | 14:43 |
| bjsnider | it works perfectly as long as you're running gnome-shell | 14:44 |
| bjsnider | this raises the possibility that canonical will have to develop a competing product as unity doesn't use mutter | 14:44 |
| dsathe | yeah bjsnider i did notice that | 14:44 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, I have another user account using Gnome 3 | 14:45 |
| dsathe | bjsnider: elementary had one , it should not be too hard to get that one going again | 14:45 |
| bjsnider | of course they could switch back to mutter, since they used it at one point | 14:45 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, if I am using the gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.10 am I able to use sushi in that | 14:46 |
| dsathe | bjsnider: i think its waaaay beyond that point | 14:46 |
| dsathe | allll the effort to port it to compiz | 14:47 |
| dsathe | now all the lense api | 14:47 |
| bjsnider | sharpshooter, which shell? | 14:47 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, which shell ??? I dont know about that !! :( | 14:48 |
| bjsnider | gnome-shell, yes. unity, no | 14:48 |
| sharpshooter | unity | 14:48 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, I sounds that if I install gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.10 I can run sushi is it ? | 14:49 |
| bjsnider | right | 14:50 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, any suggestions for gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.10 | 14:50 |
| dsathe | O.o | 14:51 |
| dsathe | none | 14:51 |
| dsathe | install it | 14:51 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, after intalling what about the unity | 14:51 |
| dsathe | u can choose at login | 14:52 |
| dsathe | ;) | 14:52 |
| bjsnider | you won't be able to use sushi until it's packaged though | 14:53 |
| sharpshooter | bjsnider, ok | 14:53 |
| dsathe | u could compile it :D | 14:53 |
| bjsnider | doesn't sound like it, to me | 14:53 |
| bjsnider | that's a bit more of an advanced user type thing | 14:54 |
| dsathe | hmm kk | 14:54 |
| dsathe | bjsnider: get something like pkgbuild to ubuntu :) | 14:54 |
| dsathe | sharpshooter: when stuck pull a pkgbuild and looka t what he does | 14:54 |
| dsathe | always works | 14:54 |
| dsathe | ofcrse somee dist difference occour | 14:55 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, Hmm I will give it a try | 14:55 |
| sharpshooter | dsathe, before it I have to gain more .. | 14:58 |
| IdleOne | Please, I am begging, someone help me to get rid of these overlay scrollbars. | 15:01 |
| IdleOne | been 4 days now I am trying | 15:01 |
| alex- | How to switch back to Gnome in 11.10? | 15:01 |
| IdleOne | !notunity | alex- | 15:02 |
| ubottu | alex-: Ubuntu Oneiric uses GNOME 3 with the !Unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell on Oneiric, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place a new entry in the Sessions dropdown on the login window. | 15:02 |
| alex- | What is Gnome shell? | 15:03 |
| SMJ | is the GNOME Fallback called GNOME Fallback or GNOME Classic? | 15:04 |
| SMJ | because I really hate this GNOME Classic | 15:04 |
| xgt001 | IdleOne, sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar | 15:04 |
| xgt001 | i think should work | 15:04 |
| IdleOne | xgt001: done that and it has no effect | 15:04 |
| IdleOne | I also removed liboverlay and still nothing | 15:05 |
| xgt001 | did u remove the libraries too? | 15:05 |
| IdleOne | liboverlay would be the library no? | 15:05 |
| xgt001 | yes... | 15:06 |
| SMJ | did you relog after removing it? | 15:06 |
| SMJ | oh | 15:07 |
| SMJ | 4 days. | 15:07 |
| IdleOne | I did, few times | 15:07 |
| IdleOne | I still have a ton of ubuntu-desktop/unity installed. I just want my Kubuntu desktop back without having to do a clean install. I will if I must but I really would rather not reinstall. | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | !purekde | 15:19 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » | 15:19 |
| BluesKaj | IdleOne, ^ | 15:19 |
| IdleOne | BluesKaj: that is outdated and does not seem to work properly for 11.10 | 15:20 |
| IdleOne | it doesn't catch all the packages | 15:20 |
| IdleOne | afaik | 15:20 |
| BluesKaj | IdleOne, yeah , I guess it's too much to ask for in a beta release :P | 15:21 |
| Stanley00 | I just noticed that the dash board wont be focused on mouse scroll, and if you have a long list of apps, you scroll down, and then click on the app you want, you will run the other app =)) | 15:21 |
| IdleOne | BluesKaj: i'm not complaining about the factoid just saying it is not up to date | 15:22 |
| szal | hi peeps | 15:23 |
| szal | can we expect flashplugin64-installer to become an official package in Oneiric now that Flash 11 is out? | 15:23 |
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| rww | oneiric has Flash 10, doesn't it? | 15:26 |
| BluesKaj | IdleOne, didn't realize how out of date that site is ...wonder why it isn't updated regularly to keep with the current release , at least ...seems negligent | 15:28 |
| rww | ah, yeah, Flash 11 just came out. It ain't going in oneiric then :P | 15:28 |
| alex- | :( | 15:28 |
| rww | 1) oneiric hasn't been released, 2) it's a wiki, do it yourself | 15:28 |
| IdleOne | BluesKaj: it's a wiki^ | 15:29 |
| IdleOne | I did a big cleanup on !puregnome a while back. | 15:29 |
| alex- | Where can I see information about 12.04 | 15:29 |
| rww | and if you don't, then take your emotion and multiply it by n people and you know why it's not fixed. | 15:29 |
| IdleOne | alex-: the future | 15:29 |
| rww | alex-: nowhere, it hasn't been planned out yet | 15:29 |
| rww | !uds | 15:29 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Developer Summit will be held between 31 October and 4 November in Orlando, Florida - See http://uds.ubuntu.com/ for more details | 15:29 |
| rww | ask after that ^ | 15:29 |
| IdleOne | Halloween at Disney is awesome btw | 15:30 |
| IdleOne | Mickey dresses up as a human and hands out candy as do the rest of the gang | 15:30 |
| alex- | IdleOne: gnome-panel has no installation canidate | 15:49 |
| IdleOne | you running 11.10/oneiric? | 15:49 |
| alex- | yes | 15:50 |
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| IdleOne | when was the last time you ran sudo apt-get update ? | 15:54 |
| alex- | before i asked the question | 15:54 |
| IdleOne | beats me. maybe they are uploading an update for it | 15:54 |
| IdleOne | when I search for it it is in the available packages | 15:55 |
| IdleOne | OMG I ran the command in !purekde and now it is removing half of kde :( | 15:56 |
| alex- | I did sudo apt-get upgrade | 15:56 |
| alex- | now | 15:56 |
| alex- | to make sure i have all packets | 15:56 |
| alex- | Btw, software sources and some other menu's aren't merged with system settings menu | 15:57 |
| IdleOne | what the heck!!!!!!!! looks like a clean install is the only way to kill Unity. | 15:58 |
| alex- | Why do I need a launghpad account to submit bugs? | 16:09 |
| ErickMoreno | After a dist-upgrade that updates my kernel, I got a kernel panic every time i try to boot | 16:10 |
| IdleOne | So that they know who submitted it and who to email with updates to the bug | 16:10 |
| ErickMoreno | this is an image of the message http://minus.com/mCL3VVdQV | 16:10 |
| alex- | Why dont they just make a update for it | 16:10 |
| alex- | Fix it in the next version | 16:10 |
| ErickMoreno | someone has any clue? | 16:10 |
| alex- | ErickMoreno: if nobody answers, nobody has any clue | 16:13 |
| alex- | Please hold in your mind 11.10 is still beta ErickMoreno | 16:13 |
| ErickMoreno | thanks for the tip alex-, you're very helpfull | 16:13 |
| IdleOne | L) | 16:13 |
| alex- | I dont recommend updrading either | 16:14 |
| ErickMoreno | we are on the +1 channel, averybody here has a reason to upgrade alex-, that why we are here | 16:15 |
| ErickMoreno | thanks for the advise | 16:15 |
| os__ | hi | 16:39 |
| alex- | hi | 16:39 |
| os__ | Performance of the microphone is bad in ubuntu 11.10 | 16:40 |
| os__ | At least in the Skype | 16:41 |
| Ian_Corne | performance? | 16:41 |
| Ian_Corne | or quality? | 16:41 |
| os__ | sorry quality | 16:41 |
| * yofel wonders why update-icon-cache isn't a dpkg trigger... | 16:59 | |
| obviousTroll | Hi all. Strange bug I am having. apt/aptitude seems to download the i386 and amd64 sources, causing duplicates in their indexes. Anyone encounter this before? | 17:24 |
| obviousTroll | Running 64-bit OO | 17:24 |
| jtaylor | both is normal | 17:25 |
| jtaylor | it should not cause problems | 17:25 |
| jtaylor | this is due to multiarch being enabled by default | 17:25 |
| obviousTroll | Ah, I see. Thanks jtaylor. | 17:25 |
| jtaylor | you can now install some i386 packages with apt-get install pacakge-name:i386 | 17:26 |
| obviousTroll | Sweet! | 17:26 |
| alex- | 1i IRC | 17:32 |
| alex- | :D | 17:32 |
| alex- | 1iric | 17:32 |
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| ksull72487 | Just curious how the beta was doing as its due for full release in about a week? Glitches? | 17:39 |
| dweez | I have minor app crashes but all in all it seems to work fine | 17:41 |
| dweez | after upgrading to 11.10 and then installing Gnome 3 I wasn't able to use my xampp install but I just installed tasksel and used it to install lamp-server and all is good | 17:42 |
| ksull72487 | thats what i thought so functional at least now may play with it while i have time | 17:44 |
| hypetech | Anybody have an issue where ocelot immediately starts to go into idle, fade to black, and lock the screen as soon as I stop touching stuff? I've disabled screen lock altogether and still getting it | 18:22 |
| ali1234 | yes | 18:22 |
| ali1234 | it is a known bug | 18:22 |
| hypetech | Is there a fix yet? | 18:22 |
| ali1234 | no | 18:22 |
| hypetech | alright | 18:22 |
| hypetech | ty | 18:22 |
| ali1234 | the bug has been around since natty too | 18:23 |
| hypetech | is it due to some specific hardware? | 18:24 |
| ali1234 | no | 18:24 |
| hypetech | I've never noticed it on natty | 18:24 |
| milaz | hi! | 18:24 |
| hypetech | milaz: hi! | 18:24 |
| milaz | does anybody know how to change a screensaver in upcoming version of ubuntu? | 18:24 |
| alex- | ehm | 18:25 |
| alex- | I can't set my display brightness, only 0 or 10 | 18:25 |
| alex- | Not something like 4 or 6 or 5.. | 18:25 |
| milaz | I noticed gnome-screensaver-preferences is missing from Oneric | 18:26 |
| milaz | Is this a bug, or a feature? | 18:26 |
| ali1234 | i can't find the bug for screensaver so i;m going to report it | 18:26 |
| milaz | ali1234: ok, thanks | 18:27 |
| milaz | my friend bought a large monitor and wants to see a fireplace on it :) | 18:28 |
| ali1234 | not the configuration | 18:28 |
| ali1234 | just install xscreensaver if you want that | 18:28 |
| milaz | ali1234: will it conflict with gnome-screensaver? | 18:28 |
| ali1234 | probably | 18:28 |
| milaz | ali1234: ok, i'll try, thanks | 18:29 |
| alex- | anyone who can report my bug? | 18:30 |
| ali1234 | of course now i reported it i found it | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | bug 863038 | 18:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 863038 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) "If turnoff the screen setting set to 'never' screen turns off instantly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/863038 | 18:32 |
| alex- | I can't set my display brightness, only 0 or 10 | 18:55 |
| iceroot | ali1234: thx for the link, i am also affected and added me to that bug | 19:06 |
| ali1234 | yeah best i can tell it affects everyone who tries to disable screensaver | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | otoh if you really want to disable it you could just remove gnome-screensaver package :) | 19:07 |
| iceroot | never tried | 19:11 |
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| jbicha | yesterday's gnome-settings-daemon update should have fixed the screen-lock problem | 19:16 |
| jbicha | !info gnome-settings-daemon oneiric | 19:16 |
| ubottu | gnome-settings-daemon (source: gnome-settings-daemon): daemon handling the GNOME session settings. In component main, is extra. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 437 kB, installed size 1536 kB | 19:16 |
| zmbmartin | Is anyone having problems with laptop-mode-tools. I get a undefined kernel error which there is a bug report for. Any ideas on how to fix it? | 19:18 |
| zacktu | i don't like the changed performance of the dash -- in 11.04 i can type a few characters and get a list of whatever apps have names the start w/ those characters -- an example is to type "libre" and see all of the libreoffice apps | 19:22 |
| zacktu | then i can tab thru that list and see the one i want an press return -- there it is -- tabbing doesn't work in 11.10 -- could this be a feature that someone didn't like? | 19:23 |
| jbicha | zacktu: tabs switch between lenses now | 19:23 |
| jbicha | try arrow keys | 19:23 |
| zacktu | jbicha: what's a lens? | 19:24 |
| jbicha | zacktu: those little icons at the bottom of the dash allow you to just look at Applications or just look at Music, etc. | 19:25 |
| zacktu | jbicha: ok -- with regard to using the keyboard, if i've gone to keyboard mode, i want to use it until the app has been selected -- arrows are not as natural as tabs (many websites let you tab through selectable fields), but i'll just hafta make it work | 19:26 |
| jbicha | zacktu: well it's also important that the lenses can be switched with the keyboard and arrow keys are far more flexible than a tab so I think the design is ok | 19:30 |
| jbicha | there's only 1 selectable field anyway | 19:31 |
| zacktu | jibcha: i'll hafta learn to live w/ the change -- the old way was a touch typists's dream --- 2 hands; left hand*; right hand -- just like the way you can do so much with vi without leaving the home keys on the keyboard | 19:36 |
| zacktu | jibcha: (except for the escape key ) -- anyway thanx much -- and if you're a developer many thanx | 19:38 |
| jeffrash | new issue, most of my folders under home in Nautilus don't work | 20:22 |
| jeffrash | Nautilus just closes when I try and open documents, pictures, etc. | 20:22 |
| jbicha | !info ubuntuone-client-gnome oneiric | 20:23 |
| ubottu | ubuntuone-client-gnome (source: ubuntuone-client-gnome): Ubuntu One client GNOME integration. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 36 kB, installed size 144 kB | 20:23 |
| jbicha | ooh that's out of date | 20:23 |
| jbicha | jeffrash: that should be fixed in 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 | 20:23 |
| jeffrash | when? | 20:24 |
| jbicha | it should show up in your updates within a few hours | 20:24 |
| Ian_Corne | same jeffrash | 20:24 |
| Ian_Corne | aha nice jbicha | 20:25 |
| Ian_Corne | google repo's are sooo slow... | 20:26 |
| jeffrash | oh, ok | 20:26 |
| jeffrash | thanks | 20:26 |
| jeffrash | 11.10 is looking great, love it | 20:27 |
| Ian_Corne | 99% [25 Packages bzip2 0 B] [Waiting for headers] 103 B/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. | 20:27 |
| Ian_Corne | lol what? | 20:27 |
| Ian_Corne | silly apt-get update | 20:28 |
| ironhalik | ok, heres a trick qestion | 20:43 |
| ironhalik | will I survive a 11.04 -> 11.10 update? :> | 20:43 |
| ironhalik | upgrade* | 20:43 |
| charlie-tca | subjective question, ironhalik . It depends on how good the 11.04 install is, doesn't it? | 20:45 |
| ironhalik | thats why the ":>" ;> | 20:45 |
| ironhalik | the natty is almost stock | 20:45 |
| dweez | my Natty survived the upgrade | 20:46 |
| ironhalik | hmm | 20:46 |
| ironhalik | its tempting | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | It *should* work. I would have important data backed up, of course. | 20:47 |
| dweez | only thing that didn't survive was xampp | 20:47 |
| dweez | cuz some lib files got updated and was no longer 32bit compatible (xampp wants 32bit lib files) | 20:47 |
| dweez | yeah, always backup data first | 20:47 |
| Ian_Corne | My natty survived to update to pre alpha 1, it doesn't mean anything :p | 20:48 |
| ironhalik | yeah, ofcourse :> | 20:48 |
| nhaines | charlie-tca: to my utter suprise, my desktop computer upgraded seamlessly. | 20:48 |
| ironhalik | from previous expiriences I would say its quite random | 20:48 |
| ironhalik | I ask hoping that something changed | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | I almost always upgrade mine around alpha1, so that is no good to judge from | 20:49 |
| ironhalik | ah what the hell | 20:51 |
| myk_robinson | evening, all.. | 22:20 |
| myk_robinson | Any word on a fix being committed for a bug causing nautilus to segfault all the time?? | 22:20 |
| myk_robinson | cancel.. It appears that it is due to a bug in nautilus-open-terminal | 22:22 |
| myk_robinson | bug#865194 | 22:23 |
| myk_robinson | hopefully that'll get resolved soon. | 22:23 |
| nbf | is 11.10 fairly stable? | 22:44 |
| AAA_awright | Not at all | 22:44 |
| nbf | I mean for use as a desktop if you're very familiar with linux | 22:45 |
| nbf | not officially "publicly stable" | 22:45 |
| genii-around | Depends what your definition of "stable" is, I suppose... | 22:45 |
| nbf | ok | 22:45 |
| AAA_awright | ... Though neither was 14, that outright didn't work for me when I updated my system a few weeks ago so maybe it's just me | 22:45 |
| AAA_awright | s/weeks/days/ | 22:46 |
| AAA_awright | http://askubuntu.com/questions/64220/how-can-i-install-the-older-gnome-control-center-in-11-10 Is that the new control center or the old one? The menu looks new to me but I don't even have a third of those items | 22:47 |
| nhaines | AAA_awright: that's the old one. | 22:51 |
| AAA_awright | Also, org.gnome.desktop.interface.text-scaling-factor in dconf-editor is the solution to my older problem | 22:52 |
| === szal is now known as rest | ||
| === rest is now known as szal | ||
| ironhalik | Well, upgrade went well :> | 22:59 |
| nhaines | yay! \o/ | 23:00 |
| ironhalik | \o/ | 23:00 |
| tensorpudding | how do i make notify-osd not start up on boot? | 23:02 |
| FernandoMiguel | what's the best way to trace down a random crash? | 23:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | I've tried gdb, strace, ltrace, valgrind | 23:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | full debug logs | 23:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | and all I get is an OOPS | 23:03 |
| AAA_awright | at least gdb should break if there's a crarsh | 23:04 |
| jbicha | tensorpudding: why don't you want notify-osd? | 23:04 |
| FernandoMiguel | AAA_awright: I wish | 23:04 |
| tensorpudding | i think it's interfering with gnome 3's notifications | 23:04 |
| jbicha | tensorpudding: what desktop are you using? | 23:05 |
| tensorpudding | i'm using gnome-shell | 23:05 |
| tensorpudding | sorry | 23:05 |
| tensorpudding | i meant gnome-shell | 23:05 |
| jbicha | tensorpudding: what makes you think notify-osd is running? | 23:05 |
| tensorpudding | it appears in my process list, that's what | 23:05 |
| tensorpudding | it doesn't always run though | 23:06 |
| FernandoMiguel | (00:05:30) util: parsed 465 | 23:06 |
| FernandoMiguel | --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- | 23:06 |
| FernandoMiguel | dns[22698]: Oops, father has gone, wait for me, wait...! | 23:06 |
| jbicha | tensorpudding: could you take a screenshot of the broken notifications then? | 23:06 |
| tensorpudding | it's not really broken | 23:06 |
| tensorpudding | the thing is | 23:07 |
| tensorpudding | i'm trying to write a program that uses shell notifications | 23:07 |
| tensorpudding | but when i look at the capabilities, it shows the ones for notify-osd | 23:08 |
| tensorpudding | which doesn't include support for persistant notifications | 23:08 |
| tensorpudding | i can't figure out how to tell it to ignore the notify-osd ones | 23:08 |
| tensorpudding | i don't know why notify-osd runs at all | 23:08 |
| tensorpudding | it means that two different notifications can show up | 23:08 |
| tensorpudding | one in the upper left, and one at the bottom | 23:09 |
| andyvy | try to use Enter less. | 23:09 |
| jbicha | tensorpudding: I don't know much about notifications but you do want notifications to work in Unity & not just GNOME Shell though... | 23:12 |
| tensorpudding | no, i'm not using unity | 23:13 |
| jbicha | tensorpudding: I meant if you plan to distribute your app more widely, you can also try asking in the GNOME channels for developer help | 23:14 |
| jbicha | as this channel is for Oneiric help & discussion | 23:14 |
| tensorpudding | i did move my question on gimpnet | 23:14 |
| tensorpudding | this is an oneiric problem too | 23:14 |
| tensorpudding | the point is, that notify-osd conflicts with gnome-shell | 23:15 |
| tensorpudding | as far as i can tell | 23:15 |
| tensorpudding | aha | 23:16 |
| tensorpudding | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/830467 | 23:16 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 830467 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Packaging: gnome-shell should be marked as Provides: notification-daemon" [Undecided,New] | 23:16 |
| zorael | Is aptitude less aggressive now in oneiric? or does it have issues confusing i386 and x86_64 packages both installed in a 64-bit installation? | 23:19 |
| zorael | Example at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/702484/ | 23:19 |
| zorael | Obviously I want it to cascade and remove all those packages that multiarch-support pulled to begin with | 23:20 |
| jbicha | zorael: you're doing it wrong, don't remove multiarch-support, just remove the :i386 packages | 23:23 |
| tensorpudding | i don't know | 23:24 |
| tensorpudding | i can't be the only person who is having these notify-osd issues with gnome-shell | 23:24 |
| zorael | jbicha: sure, just takes a whole lot of copying and pasting >.< that's ~184 packages. or is there an easy way to target all i386 packages? | 23:25 |
| micahg | zorael: aptitiude can't handle conflicts with multiarch, use apt-get | 23:26 |
| micahg | zorael: and please don't remove multiarch-support | 23:27 |
| zorael | micahg: all right. my original problem is that some of those packages are no longer installed, and simply reinstalling multiarch-support doesn't pull them again. so uninstalling/reinstalling was the solution that sprung to mind | 23:28 |
| micahg | zorael: apt should just pull in what it needs, why do you manually need to install anything? | 23:29 |
| micahg | zorael: also, multiarch-support won't pull in anything (the package that is), if something you install needs i386 libs, they'll get installed as necessary | 23:30 |
| tensorpudding | removing notify-osd by hand made everything work properly again | 23:32 |
| zorael | micahg: this machine was upgraded from natty and has skype from natty/partner, which only depends on ia32-libs to hope to get e.g. libqt4-gui:i386 | 23:32 |
| micahg | zorael: right, so the upgrade to oneiric should switch it to skype:i386 and pull in the libs it needs | 23:33 |
| micahg | zorael: and there was a package added to ia32-libs recently which pulls in some of the multiarch libs that used to be in ia32-libs | 23:33 |
| zorael | micahg: nothing transitioned my natty skype:x86_64 to oneiric skype:i386 automatically, at least. I just figured it never made oneiric/partner | 23:35 |
| zorael | I'll fix that manually | 23:35 |
| micahg | ugh, ISTR a bug about that actually... | 23:36 |
| micahg | zorael: a dist-upgrade won't migrate you to the i386 version? | 23:41 |
| zorael | micahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/702499/ | 23:45 |
| zorael | micahg: also http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/702503/ | 23:48 |
| micahg | zorael: hmm, I"ll have to check, I think the first is a bug, as for the second, is your package cache up to date | 23:50 |
| zorael | micahg: as in, repo package listings? yes. I have a big packaging bungle here where neither apt-get can't resolve dependencies and aptitude (that I normally use) just wants to keep stuff at Not Installed | 23:54 |
| zorael | -neither | 23:55 |
| alhubaishi | something weird | 23:58 |
| alhubaishi | my laptop mouse stops responding all of a sudden | 23:58 |
| zorael | hmm, libc6:i386 is a version behind libc6:amd64, even after apt-get update from se.archive.ubuntu.com | 23:58 |
| alhubaishi | i have to go to standby then come back | 23:58 |
| alhubaishi | ok now its working | 23:59 |
| alhubaishi | i didnt go standby :D | 23:59 |
| alhubaishi | im using macbook pro 4,1 generation | 23:59 |
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