| Miriup | nlsthzn: Re Arabic: Been hanging out in #arabeyes for a while. | 18:23 |
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| Miriup | Asked the guys, where is an Arabic tech channel. | 18:23 |
| Miriup | ... so I could listen and learn Arabic. | 18:24 |
| Miriup | There is none! | 18:24 |
| nlsthzn | Ouch... | 18:24 |
| Miriup | Even in #arabeyes they speak English. | 18:24 |
| nlsthzn | I guess then the LoCo has got to pull up its socks and get people in here helping :) | 18:24 |
| Miriup | But I eventually found a forum. But since then I haven't had the time yet to get my head into it. | 18:24 |
| Miriup | Yeah, but it seems it won't happen in Arabic, though. | 18:25 |
| Miriup | I had once an interesting discussion with a Arab life guard at Mushrif park swimming pool. | 18:25 |
| Miriup | I asked him some stuff in Arabic and in the beginning he didn't understand me. | 18:25 |
| Miriup | When he realised I'm talking Arabic he told me he was so unprepared for that, that he just didn't recognise what I said. | 18:26 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 18:26 |
| Miriup | He said even the locals would speak English, because for them it meant they will project themselves as educated people. | 18:26 |
| Miriup | It's kind of sad. | 18:26 |
| Miriup | Because it's really a beautiful language. | 18:26 |
| Miriup | So grammatic, that I think if you want to teach a computer understanding language it'd be much easier to do it with Arabic than with Englihs. | 18:27 |
| Miriup | It's a content programming language. | 18:27 |
| Miriup | ;) | 18:27 |
| nlsthzn | Not sure about that... beauty is in the eye of the beholder ;) | 18:27 |
| Miriup | Do you speak it? | 18:28 |
| nlsthzn | Nope | 18:28 |
| Miriup | I do you at least understand it? | 18:28 |
| nlsthzn | Nope | 18:28 |
| Miriup | Where are you from? Which languages do you speak? | 18:28 |
| nlsthzn | I already speak 2 languages... that is enough for me (English and Afrikaans) | 18:28 |
| Miriup | Oh. :) Cool. | 18:29 |
| Miriup | Well, both of them are indo-germanic. Even if you were speaking Urdu or Hindi, which are indo-european (parent family of indo-germanic), you'd be pretty much speaking the same language with different words. | 18:30 |
| nlsthzn | Lots of people have a thing for languages... I guess I am not one of them :p | 18:30 |
| Miriup | But not so with Arabic. It's completely different. You have very few basic meanings and then you have grammar to derive detail from it. | 18:30 |
| Miriup | So when you have the word for writing for example, you can built writer, the written (book), correspondancfe, etc, using very grammitcal rules. | 18:31 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 18:32 |
| Miriup | So with a handful of word-stems you can express a density of information in a single word that you need whole sentences or paragraphs in English. | 18:32 |
| Miriup | And you can easily create a word for a new idea, but deriving meaning from another word you already know. | 18:33 |
| Miriup | It's really cool. I wished I had the time to properly learn it. | 18:33 |
| nlsthzn | ... and in the end the same thing is achieved... communication... | 18:33 |
| Miriup | Anyhow... ;) | 18:33 |
| nlsthzn | It is good to have a passion... something that makes us excited... I hope you get more time to explore it further :) | 18:34 |
| Miriup | Well, with the communication. It's like Linux and Windows. Yes, you can click your way around. But eventually if you want to express something with a deeper meaning, there's not much the console would provide you. | 18:35 |
| Miriup | Not so on Linux. | 18:35 |
| Miriup | You might argue both are just operating systems. | 18:35 |
| Miriup | But one quite limits you in your communication with the machine and the other doesn't. | 18:36 |
| nlsthzn | This sounds a bit like apples and oranges to be honest... | 18:36 |
| Miriup | Comparing two operating systems? | 18:36 |
| nlsthzn | comparing arabic the language vs english to windows vs linux ;) | 18:38 |
| Miriup | No, but I felt your "... and in the end the same thing is achieved... communication..." is like apples and oranges to me. | 18:39 |
| Miriup | ;) | 18:39 |
| Miriup | So I tried to nail it down to a comparision that limits communication in the same way and would be on-topic on this channel. ;) | 18:40 |
| Miriup | Probably better talked about in person. Need to bring my daugher to bed. Was nice speaking to you. :) CU | 18:45 |
| nlsthzn | Well, I will take your word for it ... I am happy to click around in english :) I will use the terminal in Linux however | 18:45 |
| nlsthzn | Miriup: cheers | 18:45 |
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