[10:45] <ogra_> infinity, hmm, instead of the mkdir you added to jasper we should instead add a dep on app-install-data which creates that dir
[10:47] <infinity> ogra_: No, you should instead be using the ti-omap4-software-channel package you created and forgot about. :P
[10:47] <ogra_> heh
[10:47] <infinity> ogra_: But at this point, what's in jasper works, and I don't want to touch it.
[10:47] <ogra_> well, emmet wanted to work on it back a release
[10:47] <infinity> ogra_: The mkdir wasn't a fix anyway, it was just paranoia.  Never copy without a destination.
[10:47] <infinity> ogra_: The fix was the last line in the function.
[10:47] <ogra_> sure
[10:47] <ogra_> yep, saw that
[10:48] <ogra_> and thanks !
[10:48] <infinity> Landing an apt fix today to make update-apt-xapian-index less vicous on ARM.
[10:49] <ogra_> wohoo
[10:49] <infinity> And after that, unless I can reproduce some Tobin-only issues, I think we're running out of things we can reasonably fix in this cycle.
[10:49] <ogra_> banshee :)
[10:49] <ogra_> we could stare at it as a team :)
[10:49] <ogra_> watching it die ...
[10:51] <xranby> ogra_: who does it die?  somebody know?
[10:52] <xranby> im observing it dying as well
[10:52] <ogra_> xranby, no, we dont know yet, suspicion is that its a mono SMP issue, NCommander has some experience with that and looks into it, i'm sure he would appreciate some help
[10:56] <xranby> ogra_: kind of odd since it works fine on i386 smp systems
[10:56] <xranby> it do throw a nice exception on arm
[11:00] <xranby> NCommander: this are what i see when i startup banshee http://paste.ubuntu.com/702190/    have you filed a bugreport for this to work on  ?
[11:02] <ogra_> yes
[11:10] <ppisati> why my panda is aking me for the "ubuntu" user password?
[11:12] <ogra_> ppisati, bug i guess
[11:14] <ppisati> "Failed to summon the GConf demon; exiting.  Failed to activate configuration server: Failed to execute program /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2: Success"
[11:14] <ppisati> ?!?!?
[11:14] <ogra_> sounds like a readonly FS or full disk
[11:16] <ppisati> /dev/sda1             459G   14G  422G   4% /
[11:16] <ppisati> nope :)
[11:17] <ogra_> well, asking for a ubuntu user and pw doesnt look like you used one of our images, we definitely never create such a user anywhere
[11:18] <ppisati> that's a... natty? installation upgraded recently to O
[11:18] <ppisati> anyway, let's see...
[15:10] <ogra_> NCommander, how are you progressing on banshee ? any insight yet ? (we need to make a decision by thu about what we ship=
[15:10] <ogra_> )
[15:25] <GrueMaster> ogra_: I did some extensive testing with rhythmbox and it worked ok, making it a viable alternative.  The only issue is Ubuntu One integration (doesn't exist that I am aware of).
[15:26] <ogra_> yeah, which is bad
[15:26] <ogra_> i would really prefer to have a plan for banshee instead
[15:26] <GrueMaster> Well, better than crashing but...
[15:26] <ogra_> doesnt need to be fixed before release, but we need to know we *can* fix it (i.e. without having to update the whole mono stack etc)
[15:27] <ogra_> if we see no perspective we need to switch indeed, but that should only be last resort
[15:29] <GrueMaster> sigh, no daily for today.  grmbl.
[15:30] <ogra_> heh
[15:30] <ogra_> you expected miracles ?
[15:30] <GrueMaster> No, just to be able to work.  Silly me.  :P
[15:30] <ogra_> well, try banshee on a system booted with nosmp :)
[15:30] <GrueMaster> I haven't had a desktop image get past oem-config since last week.
[15:31] <ogra_> try the ac100 ;)
[15:31] <ogra_> to have some successfull install
[15:31] <GrueMaster> I have.  Fail.  It fails the same way on beagleXM and MX53.
[15:31] <ogra_> huh ?
[15:31] <GrueMaster> I have my AC100 updated now from Natty.
[15:31] <ogra_> not for all the people in #ac100
[15:31] <ogra_> neither for me
[15:32] <GrueMaster> Banshee?
[15:32] <ogra_> (though i personally didnt do much testing post-beta)
[15:32] <GrueMaster> Or oem-config?
[15:32] <ogra_> GrueMaster, the installer
[15:32] <ogra_> and oem-config
[15:32] <ogra_> banshee fails the same way everywhere i tested it ... but i havent tested without smp yet
[15:32] <GrueMaster> I haven't been testing AC100 much.  Too much focus on why oem-config crashes on omap4.
[15:33] <ogra_> yeah, i was just suggesting it to get y successfull install to get your mood up :)
[15:33] <GrueMaster> banshee fails on my UP systems the same way, so it isn't an SMP issue.
[15:33] <ogra_> ah, thanks !
[15:33] <ogra_> can you put that info in the bug ?
[15:33] <GrueMaster> I thought I already did?
[15:34]  * ogra_ didnt see it but that doesnt mean much
[15:34] <GrueMaster> bug #?
[15:35] <ogra_> bug 857299
[15:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 857299 in banshee "banshee window remain white on startup on pandaboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857299
[15:35] <ogra_> not even triaged yet (sorry i should have done that)
[15:36] <GrueMaster> Doing it now.
[15:39] <GrueMaster> Ok, triaged and added some comments.  Also assigned to NCommander, but may want janimo to look at if he has time.  More eyes is better.
[15:40] <ogra_> yeah, even you, me and infinity should look
[15:40] <ogra_> the more the better since its our worst bug we have left
[15:40] <GrueMaster> I plan on looking from a different angle.  I will test other mono apps (f-spot, etc).
[15:42] <ogra_> GrueMaster, btw, when did we stop to subscribe u-arm ? i'm noticing that i miss a lot of bugs and bugmail
[15:43] <GrueMaster> Oops.  Need to add that.
[15:43] <ogra_> added already
[15:43] <GrueMaster> We have only stopped because I haven't had time to go bug triaging.
[15:43] <ogra_> but i noticed it on several bugs recently
[15:43] <ogra_> ah
[15:43] <ogra_> well, your work is noticeable then :) be happy :)
[15:43] <ogra_> at least it is when itss not done ;)
[15:44] <brandini> hello ogra_
[15:44] <GrueMaster> I seriously was swamped with all of the server work items.  That's why desktop is in such shambles, and none of our bugs are triaged.
[15:44] <ogra_> yeah, we need to make a fallback plan for the next time that happens
[15:44] <ogra_> the team needs to take more duties off you in such situations
[15:45] <GrueMaster> Well, I had put out an alert before Beta 1.
[15:45] <ogra_> while everyone else was busy too
[15:46] <ogra_> what i want is an emergency plan so you can just raise your hand and plan b applies for the teasm
[15:46] <ogra_> *team
[15:46] <GrueMaster> I understand.  I also put out the call to the community.
[15:47] <ogra_> and to be honest it was clear to all of us from the beginning that desktop would suffer under your workload, i wish we had worked on such a plan back last UDS
[15:47] <GrueMaster> At least during the Rally.
[15:47] <ogra_> right
[15:48] <ogra_> well, next UDS next chance :)
[15:49] <brandini> big release happening?
[15:49] <GrueMaster> brandini: This week is RC.  Next week is Final.  So...yes.
[15:49] <brandini> very cool
[15:49] <brandini> I've been testing
[15:50] <brandini> I do dist-upgrade daily and run my Go webapps :)
[15:54] <brandini> This page is being served up from my pandaboard running the latest daily http://eutonian.ath.cx
[15:54] <ogra_> nice
[15:55] <GrueMaster> brandini: I take it you are running the daily server image?
[15:56] <brandini> ogra_: I got my arduino programmed to monitor my barometer and humidity, calculate dewpoint and other things and dump that data to my pandaboard
[15:56] <brandini> GrueMaster: I am
[15:56] <ogra_> cool !
[15:56] <brandini> Yes, there is still a bug in the lcd library that keeps me from being able to use the lcd at teh same time the data dumps to the serial console
[15:57] <brandini> but I watched the barometric pressure rise yesterday and sure enough... sunshine today!
[16:36] <robclark> is it normal that I have no /lib/udev/rules.d/50-firmware.rules ? (natty filesystem..)
[16:39] <robclark> oh, hmm, /lib/udev/rules.d/...
[16:41] <jayabharath> davidm: ping
[16:41] <davidm> Hi jayabharath
[17:20] <GrueMaster> infinity: I managed to get past oem-config on 20111003, but not gracefully.  I enabled trim support for ext4.  Makes the initial install a little slower (but not by much).  And oem-config didn't respawn, but it also failed to uninstall.
[17:25] <GrueMaster> Hey, a crash dump from oem-config-remove-gtk.
[17:57] <GrueMaster> And audio is worse.  Is that even possible?
[17:57] <GrueMaster> No devices, not even HDMI Audio.
[18:17] <GrueMaster> Ok, removing trim fixed audio.  How odd.
[18:22] <GrueMaster> ogra_: Any reason we removed libreoffice from the desktop image?  There are no office suites installed now.
[18:34] <robclark> hmm, does anyone else actually use udev for firmware loading on arm?
[18:35] <robclark> udev appears to (from what I see on kernel side) to abort the fw load
[18:35] <robclark> (for no particular reason that I can see)
[19:28] <GrueMaster> f-spot appears to be working ok.  Slow on SD, but ok.  So I don't think the problem is mono, just banshee.
[20:26] <ogra_> GrueMaster, we havent shipped libreoffice since 3 releases now
[21:35] <GrueMaster> ok.  Didn't know.
[23:19] <NCommander> GrueMaster: great, lovely. At least that makes it easier to narrow down, might be one of the bindings is broken
[23:23] <NCommander> oh, weird. SO when run over X11 forwarding, banshee semi-draws
[23:24] <GrueMaster> I noticed libwaland0 is installed only on armel images (not on x86).
[23:24] <GrueMaster> Could be a function call difference?
[23:25] <GrueMaster> NCommander: ^^^
[23:25] <NCommander> possibly
[23:25] <NCommander> I thnk its more an issue with Gtk#
[23:26] <NCommander> gtk-sharp was uploaded Published on 2011-07-12
[23:27] <NCommander> it throws an exception which is uncaught