[01:33] <wrst> Unit193: you causing all the noise. :p
[01:33] <Unit193> wrst: Well, I did make a netsplit
[01:34] <wrst> OK just thought we blamed you for everything
[01:35] <Unit193> I always blame you
[01:35] <wrst> oh yeah
[01:36] <Unit193> I got someone this morning!
[01:37] <wrst> how?
[01:38] <Unit193> I'me halfop on #saver2 (Different network), and the game is to kick ops/halfops before they half/op up
[01:38] <Unit193> A halfop can't kick other ops or halfops
[01:44] <cyberanger> Unit193: so does chanserv allow anyone to halfop then, or how's that bit work
[01:45] <Unit193> cyberanger: Nope, it's like atheme only with levels
[01:45] <Unit193> You get set at that leve
[01:45] <Unit193> l
[01:48] <cyberanger> ah
[01:49] <Unit193> It's fun
[01:58] <Unit193> G = Filters out all Bad words in your messages with <censored>
[02:33] <cyberanger> love filter games
[02:33] <cyberanger> take innocent setences, filter it out to where it sounds like it's just evil
[02:34] <cyberanger> then show somebody the censored version, and the original, watch the shock
[14:45] <wrst> wb... again binarymutant :P
[14:46] <cyberanger> wrst: he has connection issues, yes
[14:47] <wrst> yes cyberanger I'm thinking so :)
[14:47] <wrst> cyberanger: how are you doing today?
[14:47] <cyberanger> better
[14:47] <cyberanger> the car isn't moving
[14:48] <wrst> ha ha
[14:50]  * cyberanger doesn't mind the travel, it's too many drivers for one steering column, too many navigatiors for one route
[14:54] <wrst> ha ha family trip?
[15:33] <cyberanger> yeah, Mom, Dad & the Annoy-a-Tron (aka naginabox, GPS Navigation, other names too)
[15:34] <cyberanger> keeps it intresting
[15:37] <cyberanger> it's not really family though, it's just the added input is more distracting than helpful
[15:38] <cyberanger> it could have been friends, or coworkers, or just me and a naginabox, same frustration (except, I guess all those I can say shutup to without any adverse affects)
[15:48] <cyberanger> wrst: just finished burning all the debian stable cd's
[15:49] <cyberanger> err, dvds
[16:07] <wrst> nice cyberanger, how did you download all that on the road?
[16:07] <wrst> greetings chris4585
[16:11] <cyberanger> wrst: I didn't, some was before the trip, some on the hotel wifi, some when I got back (and all the testing was when I got back, gotta run that through rsync each week)
[16:12] <cyberanger> Chicago isn't too far from the Argonne National Labortory (in a literal & networking sense) plus closer (in a networking sense) to RIT and other mirrors
[16:13] <cyberanger> and that card really ran there anyhow (claiming 15MBPS, but it was going up and down like crazy, it avg.d out to 9MBPS, over 1.50 here (on a 3 down 1 up connection here)
[16:15] <wrst> cyberanger: i'm super digging all this ssh tunneling can't wait to use it on public wifi
[16:15] <cyberanger> I'd run an iptables command to force it to only use that
[16:16] <wrst> before I venture out may have to get a lesson :)
[16:16] <cyberanger> that's not a problem, however that may have to wait a few hours
[16:16] <cyberanger> I know that can happen today
[16:19] <wrst> oh i mean like in months cyberanger :)
[16:19] <wrst> i'm going no where
[16:51] <cyberanger> wrst: I'm going nowhere at 70MPH
[16:51] <cyberanger> ;-)
[16:51] <chris4585> hey wrst
[16:52] <cyberanger> wb chris4585 been awhile
[16:53] <wrst> chris4585: how you doing
[17:15] <chris4585> I'm alright, if I'm not here its usually because freenode doesn't like me to auto connect, sometimes it'll go and sometimes it wont
[17:16] <wrst> what have you done to freenode chris4585? :)
[17:17] <chris4585> nothing, just doesn't connect sometimes, my other network works fine
[17:21] <cyberanger> bbl, finish packing and heading back to cleveland today
[18:30] <wrst> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/native-netflix-client-coming-linux-in-12-months/
[18:49] <Unit193> Oh no! wrst reads OMGUbuntu!
[18:50] <wrst> ha ha Unit193 i'm well read :)
[18:51] <Unit193> That's the one I don't like :P
[20:32] <cyberanger> well, that didn't go as planned
[20:37] <binarymutant> wow I completely forgot how addictive video games are :D
[20:39] <cyberanger> binarymutant: how true, how true
[20:41] <binarymutant> ...must resist playing again
[20:41] <binarymutant> I don't get the netflix linux client thing, aren't they using flash?
[20:41]  * cyberanger hands binarymutant a controller >:-)
[20:41] <binarymutant> if not html5?
[20:42] <cyberanger> binarymutant: silverlight with drm
[20:42] <Unit193> Silverlight last I knew]
[20:42] <binarymutant> Ooh
[20:42] <cyberanger> Unit193: yep, with DRM
[20:42] <cyberanger> moonlight won't work due to that
[20:42] <binarymutant> I thought MS even abandoned silverlight
[20:43] <cyberanger> binarymutant: special clients for special devices
[20:43] <cyberanger> and I think they're moving away with microsoft slowly
[20:43] <binarymutant> how could a huge company like that make such a big error :D
[20:44] <cyberanger> binarymutant: netflix or microsoft/
[20:44] <binarymutant> netflix
[20:44] <binarymutant> they should just do html5 and auth the page for paying clients
[20:44] <binarymutant> easy, cross platform, etc
[20:45] <binarymutant> oo big trouble in little china :D
[20:45] <cyberanger> binarymutant: simple, at the time, html5 didn't exist (or too draft, lacked media)
[20:46] <binarymutant> yeah but in order to stay alive, internet companies have to keep up with the times. Look at AOL
[20:46] <cyberanger> also, they walked in knowing flash's pains, needing drm (due to royalities, license holders)
[20:47] <cyberanger> and aware that their market was mail rentals
[20:47] <binarymutant> they shouldn't need drm... wait do you download netflix? I thought it was stream
[20:48] <pleia2> they are even required to drm the streams
[20:48] <binarymutant> that's so weird!
[20:48] <pleia2> (this all comes from the content providers they license content from)
[20:48] <cyberanger> binarymutant: it's not netflix choice
[20:49] <cyberanger> the dvd's are a different market
[20:49] <pleia2> the ChromeOS version of Netflix uses HTML5
[20:49] <cyberanger> crossing over to streaming, bad waters
[20:50] <binarymutant> they should the chrome version for everyone then :D
[20:50] <cyberanger> pleia2: you have a cr48?
[20:50] <pleia2> but there are challenges to keeping it protected, so if you want to use Netflix with ChromeOS you can't run it in Dev mode, essentially meaning you can't poke around and see what's going on
[20:50] <pleia2> cyberanger: yep
[20:50] <cyberanger> lucky
[20:50] <cyberanger> I applied, too late I guess
[20:50] <pleia2> this is why they  don't have a generic chrome plugin yet
[20:51] <binarymutant> idk what dev mode is :(
[20:51] <pleia2> binarymutant: on chromebooks you can switch into developer mode to poke around the filesystem, get extra commands and do development
[20:51] <pleia2> regular mode is very locked down
[20:52] <binarymutant> that's weird too :/
[20:52] <binarymutant> dev mode should be regular mode lol :D
[20:52] <pleia2> not really, it's a consumer-level device that's essentially a web browser
[20:53] <cyberanger> binarymutant: think android phone prior to rooting it
[20:53] <pleia2> you don't want normal people messing around with it, it's very simple and Just Works
[20:53] <binarymutant> but most people wouldn't even if they were given the opportunity I think
[20:53] <cyberanger> binarymutant: the cr48 was targetting those that would
[20:54] <binarymutant> oh well, some companies are weird :P
[20:54] <pleia2> the opportunity isn't needed, best to not give it to them
[20:54] <pleia2> it's not like you're installing software on the thing, upgrades just come with magic when you reboot
[20:54] <cyberanger> pretty much the only cromeos device out there
[20:54] <pleia2> there are several now: amazon.com/chromeos
[20:54] <binarymutant> <-- sticks with debian/ubuntu
[20:55] <pleia2> best buy sells them online too
[20:55] <pleia2> (not in stores, boo)
[20:55] <pleia2> I like the idea, they include an ssh client (yay!) and the battery life is amazing (about 8 hours on the cr-48) but they are too expensive for what they are
[20:56] <binarymutant> expensive and no access? doesn't sound like a good time :P
[20:57] <pleia2> I have plenty of computers that I can tinker with ;)
[21:09] <binarymutant> aren't companies pretty good with streaming and not caching nowadays
[21:10] <binarymutant> it used to to cache in /tmp but now - I have nooo clue where they do it
[21:10]  * binarymutant thinks the netflix problems are the reason piracy will never go away
[21:13] <binarymutant> it's easier to copy than to appease IP hoarding companies :P
[21:14] <cyberanger> binarymutant: flash caches to tmp, deletes it in an instant
[21:15] <cyberanger> it's linked to /proc till it's no longer needed (and one can copy it knowing that)
[21:15] <cyberanger> presume that's the same concern for html5 and moonlight
[21:15] <binarymutant> that's useful info ^^
[21:16]  * binarymutant sticks with debian AND piracy lol
[21:17] <Unit193> He says in the logged channel ;)
[21:18] <binarymutant> rofl, oh noes
[21:19] <cyberanger> It's the end of the world as I know it...
[21:19] <cyberanger> I feel fine
[21:20]  * Unit193 chuckles
[21:20] <binarymutant> I doubt they search google with "ubuntu piracy" as the terms
[21:21] <binarymutant> they = ip police
[21:22] <binarymutant> anywho be back in a few (more urban terror! yay :D)
[21:22] <Unit193> Eh, they do more worse things
[21:22] <binarymutant> Unit193: like...?
[21:23] <binarymutant> I heard they download torrents lol
[21:23] <binarymutant> let me find that article, it was hilarious
[21:23] <Unit193> I've seen examples and read a few things, but I don't remember (Watch cyberanger tell it ;P )
[21:24] <binarymutant> http://boingboing.net/2011/09/22/movie-industry-self-piracy-proves-that-ip-addresses-arent-people-invalidates-copyright-enforcement-schemes.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29
[21:26] <binarymutant> techdirt.com is a good link too :D brb (this time for real)
[21:39] <cyberanger> Unit193: binarymutant got the best one
[22:05] <vychune> hey guys
[22:06] <vychune> Could you guys critique my website for me?
[22:08] <vychune> as usual nobody home lol
[22:08] <binarymutant> I can :D
[22:08] <binarymutant> :D :D :D
[22:09] <binarymutant> url me
[22:09]  * binarymutant apologizes, lots of energy drinks
[22:09] <Unit193> Link 'em
[22:09] <Unit193> dano
[22:09] <vychune> http://www.chestpaint.com/
[22:09] <binarymutant> uh
[22:10] <vychune> what?
[22:10] <vychune> give me your honest opinion
[22:10] <vychune> don't think of my feeling lol
[22:10] <binarymutant> vychune: do you know how to do gradients in css?
[22:11] <vychune> yes the background uses them
[22:12] <vychune> as well as the three top divs
[22:12] <binarymutant> hng on
[22:13] <vychune> k
[22:13] <binarymutant> http://i54.tinypic.com/10gbj14.jpg  is what it looks like for webkit
[22:14] <vychune> doesnt Chrome use webkit?
[22:14] <binarymutant> yes
[22:14] <vychune> im using that
[22:14] <binarymutant> http://binarymutant.byethost8.com/ I like these types of gradients :D
[22:15] <vychune> your site wont come up :/
[22:16] <binarymutant> :(
[22:16] <vychune> dude on your screenshot zoom out lol
[22:16] <binarymutant> comes up for me.... owell
[22:17] <binarymutant> I can't lol
[22:17] <vychune> oh lol
[22:17] <vychune> check the spelling?
[22:17] <binarymutant> I say your top* divs should be on bottom
[22:17] <binarymutant> and your content in the middle
[22:18] <vychune> hmm
[22:18] <vychune> i like that idea hold on
[22:18] <binarymutant> nav-content-top* divs
[22:21] <vychune> I LIKES THAT
[22:21] <vychune> view the homepages
[22:21] <vychune> view the homepage
[22:21] <binarymutant> I like masthead, donate/cc is blurry, maybe add a little 3d?
[22:22] <binarymutant> and a 2 color scheme, 3 at most. you have 5 colors
[22:23] <binarymutant> my site doesn't come up?
[22:23] <binarymutant> that aint cool
[22:24] <binarymutant> I have 6 color scheme on my site lol
[22:24] <binarymutant> thats bad
[22:24] <binarymutant> 7! :(
[22:27] <vychune> yeah seven color is a little much lol
[22:28] <binarymutant> the rounded corners are so rounded that they hide stuff, like "violation"
[22:29] <vychune> ok
[22:29] <vychune> dang i gtg
[22:29] <vychune> babysitting
[22:29] <vychune> -_-
[22:30] <vychune> THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:30] <binarymutant> :(
[22:30] <vychune> o/
[22:30] <vychune> ttyl?
[22:30] <binarymutant> sure :D
[22:30] <vychune> o/
[22:30] <vychune> later
[22:31] <binarymutant> why doesn't my site come up, I pay good money for that ( $0 )
[23:54] <Unit193> I get some nice from my shell :D