[08:33] morning all! [08:33] Buongiorno a tutto! [08:38] Ag, my system is super unstable on O [08:57] or better here, mandel, what broke in O for you? [08:59] rye, compiz keeps crashing all the time, and xchat too, which is weird [08:59] I think I'm going to move to unity 2d and forget about all this 3d crap :P [08:59] is not that the terminal looks better hehe [09:00] mandel_, hm, are the bugs for these crashes already reported? [09:01] rye, don't know.. I'll try during my free time to see what is going on, right now I should be fixing our bugs hehe [09:06] dobey, U1 icon is there, in the launcher on fresh install [09:12] * mandel_ coffee break [09:48] * mandel_ back! [11:00] rye, ping [11:00] mandel, rye pong [11:01] rye, are you running O? [11:01] mandel, yes! [11:02] rye, I have been having issues with compiz all the time crashing, is that normal, or is just my machine? [11:02] I have a crappy intel graphics card :( === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:03] mandel, well, this is happening to me, though i saw some discussion in #dx about the crashes. You might want to submit apport bug when it prompts you to see whether it is already reported [11:03] it looks like there are a finite number of such issues and they are working on them [11:08] rye, ok, because is a major pain, nevertheless unity 2d works like a charm, and I really do not see the benefit of using 3d [11:09] mandel, i found the window switching to be painfully slow when there are many windows of the same type [11:09] mandel, other than this - awesome alternative [11:10] rye, I just use a single term window with lots of tabs, so is not a big issue for me :) [11:19] is it a holiday somewhere? I dont see the ar people :( [11:20] hello crowd! [11:21] nessita, morning!! [11:21] nessita, I finally got a real ubuntu machine to run lint etc (running lint in the mac or windows throws way to many errors) [11:21] nessita, so please feel free to re-review the branches I proposed, lint and pep8 should be okcay [11:26] * mandel_ goes for a little [11:27] mandel: ack [11:36] * mandel walks dog [11:40] hi [11:41] hi gatox [11:41] nessita, hi [11:42] gatox: shall I review again the network sso branch? [11:43] nessita, yep.... [12:03] nessita, ping... are you receiving my messages? [12:03] gatox: nopes [12:03] gatox: you seem to go out and in a lot [12:04] nessita, :S the connection at this bar is crap! [12:04] gatox: trade the good gnoquis for a better connection! :-) [12:04] good morning! [12:12] hi ralsina [12:30] hi nessita [12:30] nessita: got 5' for a quick mumble? [12:31] ralsina: I can talk on a phone, but no mumble for me in the laptop :-/ [12:31] nessita: ok, I'll call you [12:31] (and RIP the monitor) [12:52] nessita, dobey, alecu, mandel: standup in 8' [12:54] mandel: ping [12:58] mandel: ping ^2 [13:00] ping^N == ping [13:01] meme [13:01] memememememmmmm [13:01] ralsina, dobey? [13:01] me [13:02] DONE: reviews, bug triage, gave a TDD talk at the university [13:02] TODO: bug #862991, bug #862540, teaching duties [13:02] BLOCKED: nopes [13:02] NEXT: ralsina [13:02] Launchpad bug 862991 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Set a better title for the error dialogs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862991 [13:02] DONE: bug triaging, worked on making u1cp a "one-instance" app, TL call TODO: finish that one, start a new one, more reviews, mgmt call BLOCKED: no [13:02] Launchpad bug 862540 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Do provide a nice error message when there are issues (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862540 [13:02] NEXT: you are all fired for missing standup [13:02] except nessita [13:03] lol [13:03] i didn't miss it [13:03] it's right there [13:04] ? [13:04] λ DONE: bug #804946, bug #865567 [13:04] λ TODO: finish bug #865593 [13:04] λ BLCK: None. [13:04] Launchpad bug 804946 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_unref() (affects: 217) (dups: 80) (heat: 966)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804946 [13:04] Launchpad bug 865567 in ubuntuone-client-gnome (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 4 other projects) "ubuntuone-client-gnome needs to install gsettings schemas (affects: 109) (dups: 10) (heat: 222)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865567 [13:04] Launchpad bug 865593 in ubuntuone-client-gnome (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Ubuntu One launcher disappears on upgrade to Oneiric (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865593 [13:04] me [13:04] sorry [13:05] np [13:05] you are unfired [13:05] ralsina, thx! [13:05] DONE: Installe Ubuntu real Machine to ensure tests can be properly ran. Fixed lint and pep8 issues. Started a branch with the logic for checking the presence of updates. [13:06] TODO: Finish conversation about the ui for that ^. === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:06] BLOCKED: no [13:06] mandel: can you please remind me the link to the patched keyring? the one that knows how to delete passwords [13:06] mandel: can I put something small in your plate? A XML for updating to 2.0 [13:06] nessita, ofcourse! let me get that for you [13:06] mandel: thanks! [13:06] ralsina, yes, you can, bug number please :) [13:06] mandel: no bug number, it's a RT [13:06] dobey, ping [13:07] ralsina, ok, so I'm guessing you want me to send the RT telling what to do for the autoupdate thing, right? [13:07] mandel: just create the file with the correct URLs and stuff [13:07] so I can get it uploaded [13:08] mandel: yes? [13:08] mandel: 2.0 has a versionid of 200 [13:08] * dobey doesn't understand why people "ping" anyway [13:08] just ask the question :P [13:08] dobey, I wanted to run the ubuntuone-windows-installer tests in a machine that does not have x, is that possible? [13:08] dobey, I ping just in case :P [13:09] doesn't have X? windows doesn't have X [13:09] dobey, is on a linux box [13:09] dobey, but there are tests that ran on linux + u1lint :P [13:10] ralsina, have we tested that the panel does not start a second time when we perform the auto-update? Do you want to test it now? [13:10] mandel: I fixed it and tested it, but another test won't hurt [13:10] mandel: xvfb-run u1trial blah blah [13:11] dobey, thx! [13:11] mandel: did I miss the link? /me is confused [13:11] nessita, no, you did not, my multitasking is terrible :( [13:12] nessita, there you go: https://bitbucket.org/mandel/pykeyring-delete-password [13:12] mandel: you have probab;y an HT processor [13:12] mandel: ah, I was hoping you can remind me the ubuntuone public file, that was already compiled [13:13] nessita, oh, I can get you that too, i though you wanted the code, let me get that form one.ub* [13:13] mandel: thanks! [13:14] nessita, nad I really think my brain is a first generation ARM at most, you know those ones final year students design :P [13:14] ralsina, I write the RT andfoward it to you first so that you can ensure I make sense :) [13:16] nessita, I believe this is the one you are after: http://ubuntuone.com/6fkY1IvG7LNmvqKjXDFtYL [13:16] mandel: there is a RT already, just do the file and I'll pas it on [13:18] ralsina, oh, I understood had to do everything, sure on it [13:19] ralsina, do you have the url where the client is usually uploaded? [13:19] mandel: this one is in https://one.ubuntu.com/windows/release I think [13:20] ralsina, I mean, is just the normal url, or are we having mirrors etc. [13:20] ok, then I'll get it from the web [13:21] just the url [13:22] mandel: that is a lib.win32-2.7.zip file... I think I want a keyring.zip file, no? [13:23] nessita: that bitbucket url, you can get the tar.gz and just do a python setup.py install [13:23] ralsina: ah, ok, thanks [13:24] nessita, unzip it and you will find the keyring one you want [13:24] good morning.... :P [13:24] good EVENING [13:24] ;-) [13:24] nessita, if you try what rasinal says, remember you need vs2008 tools installed and you might have issues with the compilation [13:26] ralsina, version string 2.0.0, right? [13:26] version id 200, is that correct, we are jumping directly to 2? [13:27] mandel: yes, [13:28] DONE: worked on the server-time sync branches, refactoring the first one (storage protocol) to be used in the control panel branch [13:28] TODO: finish all 5 of them (storage-protocol, sso, sd, u1cp, u1wi) and review/merge them at once, since they depend on each other. [13:28] BLOCKED: no [13:29] ralsina, sent [13:29] mandel: cool [13:29] mandel: did you test it? ;-) [13:30] ralsina, that one, no, let me update in my server and test with those details, give me 5 min [13:30] mandel: thanks. That way I can just send it to the RT and not be scared [13:31] ralsina, sure, no problem :) [13:31] ralsina, a very important detail, in this new .exe the update.ini has 200 s the versionId, right? [13:32] mandel: let me re-check [13:32] ralsina, should be aoutgenerated from the version id that you provide to the tool that generates the .exe [13:32] version_id = 200 yes [13:32] \o/ [13:36] can someone give a quick second review of https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client-gnome/gsettings-is-evil/+merge/78002 please? [13:43] ralsina, seems that the update is downloading, so far so good :) [13:43] mandel: good :-) [13:46] ralsina, bad news, got an error during the download, where is the file being served from? [13:46] mandel: somewhere in our servers [13:47] alecu, mandel: we're having a couple of users reporting that file sync is not happening, and in the logs I; ve seen: [13:47] I/O operation on closed file [13:47] alecu, mandel: you have some time to debug? can we skype? [13:47] nessita: I have seen that happen when there are two copies of syncdaemon running [13:47] nessita, do you have the bug report? [13:47] nessita, yes, I have seen one of those and spoke with verterok about it, do we have logs? [13:47] bug #863691 [13:47] ralsina: Error: Bug #863691 not found. [13:47] alecu: this is one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/863398 [13:47] nessita: Error: Bug #863398 not found. [13:47] mandel: clientid://719da179fc09b792e31a2fe531163f20302192d0 [13:48] argh [13:48] nessita, let me finish helping ralsina first, then I can skype, is that ok? [13:48] ralsina, la puta! [13:48] ralsina, that's weird. Tcp activation should not allow two copies of sd to run at once, since they would try to open the same tcp port [13:48] alecu: and I have another one I just diagnosed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-windows-installer/+bug/865059 [13:48] nessita: Error: Bug #865059 not found. [13:48] ralsina, try this: https://one.ubuntu.com/download/windows/client/ubuntuone-2.0-windows-installer.exe [13:48] alecu: yes, but if you are quick, it seems to happen [13:49] mandel: why? That's not the right URL [13:49] ralsina, which one is it? [13:49] mandel: the URL is https://one.ubuntu.com/windows/release :-) [13:54] ralsina, I have a no found for https://one.ubuntu.com/windows/release/ubuntuone-2.0-windows-installer.exe [13:54] mandel: The problem is that it's without filename [13:55] ralsina, alecu: if we can have 2 syncdaemon working at the same time, we have some potential serious issue [13:55] ralsina, alecu: having 2 syncdaemons running can easily corrupt metadata, for instance [13:55] not to mention file conflicts :-/ [13:55] nessita: agreed [13:55] ralsina, but we need the file name, that is what the updater does, is a wget https://one.ubuntu.com/windows/release/ubuntuone-2.0-windows-installer.exe [13:55] mandel: let me check the docs a bit [13:56] ralsina, so we have to point to https://one.ubuntu.com/windows/, that looks weird, but I can try [13:56] ralsina, let me try [13:56] alecu, ralsina: shall we skype about this? I know ralsina has the management call soon... [13:56] nessita, ralsina: I can't imagine the control panel starting two copies of syncdaemon at once. [13:56] alecu, I have seen two instances running in my vm, I promise! [13:56] give me 5 mins and we can skype [13:56] alecu: sure [13:57] mandel: let me test it but I think you can just not put a filename there [13:58] ralsina, it will get confused because it supports diff os.. i'm trying just naming it release, lets see what happens.. [13:58] mandel: how about using "release" as filename :-) [13:58] haha [13:58] ralsina, the beauty of irc and lags hehehe [13:59] ralsina, no, it does not do the trick [13:59] ralsina, I'm guessing that the guys in the server side are not serving this in a static manner, right? [14:00] mandel: ok, so we need to put the installer in a place that has the filename in it [14:00] mandel: I think they are, yes [14:00] mandel: it's an apache rewrite to a static file, I think [14:00] ralsina, so, what we need is the actual location and file name, otherwise the thing cannot download it :( [14:01] ralsina, can you ask them, and we can do the tests asap :) [14:01] mandel: ok, good to know, I will change the RT to do that, but don't expect it too soon [14:01] nessita, I can do the skype in 5/10 mins is that ok [14:02] ralsina, ok, let me know and I'll test as soon as you let me knoe [14:02] know* [14:02] mandel: sure [14:02] mandel: I think is ok, I guess ralsina may have the management call but we catch him up later [14:02] I am in the mgmt call, yes [14:04] nessita, ok, I'll ping you as soon as I'm back, I will not take long [14:04] ack [14:04] nessita, are we using mumble or skype? [14:05] alecu: skype, I have only my laptop available since my monitor died [14:05] nessita, sorry about that :-( [14:06] son rachas [14:07] nessita, you have probably tried deleting .config/Mumble/Mumble.conf, right? that seems to fix mumble for me when it decides to stop working. [14:07] alecu: yeah, I tried everything, I even sat next to tom haddon and he ran out of ideas [14:08] alecu: though... [14:08] alecu: IT WORKED NOW [14:08] alecu: you just left :-) (sorry for not trying sonner) [14:09] it seems it just broke for me, trying to enter again :P [14:11] nessita, we can skype now if you want :) [14:12] mandel: can you enter mumble please? [14:12] nessita, oh, mumble, I though it was skype, sure going [14:12] * mandel kills skype [14:17] speaking of mumble [14:17] ralsina, Chipaca: when are we having the longer mumble call? [14:17] dobey: how about thursday? [14:20] ralsina: at 1300Z again? [14:21] or 1400? [14:21] dobey: any preferences? [14:21] either of those is fine with me. i don't have to take kids to kinder or doctor or anything :) [14:24] mandel, alecu: syncdaemon.log.2011-10-03_14-57-17 [14:25] dobey: but you have cars to buy thingamajigs for :-) [14:25] dobey, alecu, Chipaca, thisfred, mandel, nessita: I have mailed invitation for a longish mumble on thursday [14:26] nessita, alecu: http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/25031-logging-shutdown-valueerror-i-o-operation-closed-file [14:26] please let me know if the time is not convenient or anything? [14:26] ralsina: and they get delivered straight to my door. though i'm happy to take breaks from hacking to go work on cars :P [14:26] alecu, nessita: can ignore the close IO issue: http://bugs.python.org/issue6333 [14:27] is not us [14:27] mandel: really???? [14:27] mandel: the error is not on logging [14:28] I am done with the mgmt call if you guys still need me in mumble [14:32] CardinalFang_, pfibiger: hi to the stardusters [14:33] statik: you're dead to us. [14:33] not really. we miss you :) we'll pour out some french fries from a pint glass in your honor. [14:33] heh [14:34] statik, hi hi. Our network is fickle today. I shouldn't be blaming you, I guess! ...I'm still going to, though. [14:34] CardinalFang_, the net is rickety up here as well [14:42] alecu, nessita, ralsina: FYI => https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-control-panel/+bug/867550 [14:42] Launchpad bug 867550 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Underlying C++ is removed when SD tris to execute a callback (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] [14:42] I'll assign gatox, is that ok? [14:43] mandel: could it be something very silly like "control panel was closed before the callback was triggered"? [14:43] mandel: yes, assign gatox [14:56] nessita, "Configure -> Settings -> Audio Input -> PTT Audio cue: check!" [14:58] nobody wants to review my branch? :( [15:00] alecu, nessita, ralsina FYI: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/867567 [15:00] Launchpad bug 867567 in ubuntuone-client "The _path_is_dir function in file system notifications on windows is broken (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] [15:15] lunch time, bbiab [15:25] gotta break for lunch + banks [15:25] be back in about 90 minutes [15:33] nessita, mandel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/702298/ [15:54] * mandel EOD [15:54] ralsina, FYI I'll be working on bug #867567 and cleaning logs in that file [15:54] Launchpad bug 867567 in ubuntuone-client "The _path_is_dir function in file system notifications on windows is broken (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/867567 [16:12] lunchtime! === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:27] Interview: Roberto Alsina, Manager for the Ubuntu One Desktop Engineering Team in Online Services at Canonical - http://is.gd/JZu5c7 [16:35] nessita, have a friend with fully updated natty, that sees "2GB free" in the control panel... shouldn't that be 5GB? [16:36] facundobatista: what version does he have? 2.0.0 should show 5no gig at all [16:36] facundobatista: ah, wait, natty [16:36] facundobatista: we're SRUing that, so no fix yet [16:36] nessita, she has 1.0.0 [16:37] nessita, ok, thanks [16:37] facundobatista: we're SRUing that, so is "expected" [16:48] 1.0.0? [16:48] oh, c-p [16:48] so maverick? [16:48] no, that can't be right. would be natty [16:48] i guess we should just remove that label in natty too [17:08] dobey: yeah, through a SRU [17:08] dobey: you still have my review in your queue? [17:10] yes; behind the critical mess :) [17:16] nessita, where the debug logs are in windows? [17:16] hello again! [17:16] ralsina, do you know where the debug logs are in windows? mandel? [17:17] facundobatista: xp or 7? [17:17] lisette, xp or 7? [17:18] facundobatista: vista [17:19] ralsina, vista :) [17:19] ralsina: can you approve https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client-gnome/evil-gsettings-2-0/+merge/78130 also? same diff as earlier, but fo stable-2-0 so i can release it to oneiric :) [17:19] lisette, facundobatista: c:\users\/Appdata/Local/xdg [17:19] with consistent slashes though [17:19] ralsina: thanks [17:19] dobey: checking === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [17:21] ralsina: the entire xdg folder? [17:22] lisette: probably something like cache/ubuntuone/logs [17:22] ralsina: there are 2 u1 related folders in there [17:22] * nessita -> university [17:22] lisette: names? [17:22] apparently in C++ nessita has a university inside her. [17:23] ralsina: cache, with u1 stuff, and ubuntuone [17:23] or a reference to it at least [17:23] lisette: cache it is [17:25] ralsina: 7zip gives me a whole bunch of errors when i try to zip cache, so i will send you the entire xdg thing if that is ok? [17:25] lisette: sure [17:25] or just look for the files with .log extenion [17:25] ralsina: you mean a pointer? [17:26] dobey: yeah [17:26] but she obviously doesn't have a hunting dog in her! [17:27] * ralsina is sleepy [17:28] * ralsina misses coffee [17:28] dobey: +1 [17:29] thanks [18:25] ralsina, ping [18:25] alecu: pong [18:26] ralsina, I don't know how you sent the calendar invitation, but it's very awkward to get it into calendar.google.com [18:26] alecu: really? [18:26] ralsina, plus that event does not show up there either. [18:26] alecu: ok, then let's just say "hey, alecu, mumble on thursday!" ;-) [18:26] ralsina, at what time ART? [18:26] alecu: it may have something to do with the latest change about multiaccounts and such [18:27] oh, right. [18:27] alecu: 11 [18:27] is it your kinder time? I can move it [18:27] ralsina, no, I can budget that time, no problem. [18:27] alecu: cool [18:27] ralsina, for how long? [18:27] less than 1 hour [18:27] (estimates are fine) [18:27] oh, ok. [18:32] ralsina, I've manually added it to the website... can you please check if it shows up there for you? [18:33] ralsina, you should get a mail about it. [18:33] alecu: got it [18:33] alecu: you did get my email, right? [18:33] I have both [18:34] deleting mine, just in case [18:34] ralsina, I got one email from you, but it looked as if it was sent by some email or calendar client, and not sent from calendar.google.com [18:34] alecu: that is really weird [18:34] oh, well. It's ok now [18:35] ralsina, well, it looked really short and it did not have any links to calendar.google.com... [18:36] ralsina, but now, looking at the mail source it clearly says: "Sender: Google Calendar " [18:36] alecu: I have no other calendar thing, so :-) [18:36] ralsina, so, does the invite I just sent have any links to the web? [18:36] yes [18:37] ralsina, then perhaps it's because I've set the event to the "Online services" calendar that everybody has access to? [18:37] could be [18:38] ok, let's nevermind. [20:21] Is there seriously no way to publish a whole folder? [20:22] moonshadow: not currently, no, we don't do public folders [20:23] any particular reasons? an equivalent effect is possible by publishing the files seperately... [20:26] It seems the files API allows publishing files as well, so the effect can somehow be emulated, if that's the right word. [20:26] Seems odd to have a plugin for this though, since sharing folders works just fine? [20:26] you can publish individual files, yes [20:27] and you can share folders to other users [20:27] but you can't publish folders, or share individual files [20:27] what's the reasoning behind not publishing folders? [20:28] They probably don't have a web infrastructure set up for it. [20:28] i don't remember. [20:28] heh [20:28] Well, can't get more honest than that. :) [20:29] well, the web URLs are garbled somehow. http://ubuntuone.com/5MMzDAEUpRJXsoFHM1f5DF [20:31] would be nicer with ubuntuone.com/username/pub/file, but i guess that's not to be. [20:31] I can partly understand why it's not wanted that people host websites from ubuntuone, but it's a shame that the competition does it. [20:32] anyway, good luck to ubuntu-one, gratz on the windows client. [20:32] moonshadow: the old URLS were ubuntu.one.com/p/1234 which was kind of nice. [20:32] But the scrambling is a security thing to keep sequential files from being found. I guess? [20:32] the web urls aren't garbled. they're unique. and not particularly guessable [20:32] what's the point in hiding sequential /published/ files? [20:33] or making then unguessable? [20:33] I don't suppose I can change anything by getting involved, since U1 is partly commercial? [20:33] because some people want to make a file public, and not have the world see it, but only a few people they give the URL to [20:33] moonshadow: don't get me wrong... I wish I could share a folder on the Web too. :) [20:33] that's what sharing is for. [20:33] you can file feature requests on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers if you want [20:33] as in, sharing folders. [20:33] moonshadow: you *could* do a small script that creates the equivalent [20:34] moonshadow: sharing folders only works when sharing to people who have accounts [20:34] I don't, it just makes me sad that some of the best features of dropbox get lost on u1. [20:34] we aren't dropbox [20:34] ralsina, difficult and ugly with the scrambled URLs. [20:34] I know, but the services are very similar, are they not. [20:34] i really wish people would stop comparing us to dropbox [20:34] not really [20:34] we are a whole lot more [20:34] and a bit less. [20:35] moonshadow: not really, I think I have a script to do that somewhere [20:35] APIs *just* got released... for a long time, it was basically file and couchdb syncing and not a lot more. [20:35] * dobey goes back to working on stuff; not in the mood for pensive jabs [20:35] ralsina, i don't like links in my HTML that i can't tell where they go [20:35] moonshadow: hmmm there is a way around that too :-) [20:35] no offense meant, dobey. good luck with whatever you'Re working on. [20:35] moonshadow: u1.to [20:35] ralsina, how so? [20:36] moonshadow: well, U1 isn't a short URL service, so any ubuntuone.com access is content, at least. [20:36] moonshadow: warning, experimental stuff inside ;-) [20:37] moonshadow: for example, http://u1.to/ralsina/J/slides.zip is hosted in ubuntu one [20:37] i don't understand why people don't host their web sites, on *gasp* their web site. [20:38] dobey: because having your own website is dangerous, time consuming and generally not fun? [20:38] the same reason that they don't use FTP servers and sync deamons (daemons?) to sync files? [20:39] ralsina: and hosting your site via some file sync service is somehow *easier* than throwing some files in a directory on a server? [20:39] also, it doesn't make much sense to get a hoster for a site that will be accessed by few people sporadically at best. [20:39] dobey: actually yes [20:39] dobey, i should say so! [20:39] ralsina: people need educated in how to manage web sites then [20:39] why bother, if the scope is so small? [20:39] * ralsina has his first one-friday project it seems [20:40] ralsina, what project? I'm interested... [20:40] Ooh, it works! http://u1.to/nhaines/0/nhaines-ubuntu-square-256.jpg [20:40] moonshadow: I had a script to create image galleries out of a folder in u1 [20:40] nhaines: isn't it pretty? [20:40] ralsina: pretty cool. :) [20:40] moonshadow: I could make it actually useful ;-) [20:41] :) [20:41] I agree, using U1 to host a folder would be really nice. [20:41] Hopefully, U1 for Windows will let me share folders and get some of that functionality. [20:42] nhaines: share, sure! Just sends you to the website ;-) [20:42] I'm mainly thinking about this - a tiny pure-html site to let ppl access old minecraft worlds from my sever: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3566401/ygg.html [20:42] scope is so small? just because i could do it, doesn't mean i use a sledgehammer to insert the screws that hold my desk together [20:42] ralsina: not that mounting a folder on my webhost using sftp wouldn't be as easy. ;P [20:42] not really worth renting/buying a server for is it [20:42] maybe the web world just needs real tools [20:42] and u1 could be one! [20:42] "unzip some crap in your web host" is evil [20:42] exactly. the sledgehammer is a fullblown server to host some nails. [20:42] proper tools [20:42] moonshadow: I pay U$S 4.56 monthly for my webserver, mind you ;-) [20:43] dobey: there is a real need for "hey, I put all these thigns in a folder, I want people to have access to it" [20:43] I pay 0$ a amonth for a ubuntu one account. [20:43] ralsina: I pay $2.10 monthly for my webserver. :) [20:43] i am pretty sure that setting your domain as a CNAME to dropbox won't get you a shiny web site from your files in dropbox [20:43] nhaines: oh, but are you root in it? ;-) [20:43] no, i don' [20:43] t want a shiny website [20:44] i want a tiny HTML file to make the access to two 7z archives nicer. [20:44] moonshadow: actually for your use, u1.to would be perfect. [20:44] with images. [20:44] who offers the service? [20:44] I don't like to give out details... [20:44] geocities [20:44] u1.to? It's done by chipaca [20:44] dobey, geocities went out of business, didn't it? [20:44] who's chipaca? [20:45] Chipaca == my boss [20:45] http://www.geocities.com/a57ngel/gas/index.html <- that works [20:45] who are you then [20:45] hmmmm.... ok, let's start from the beginning :-) [20:45] ralsina is dobey's boss [20:45] i had a site with geocities once. it was traumatizing. [20:45] hi moonshadow! I am Roberto Alsina, I work on U1 desktop :-) [20:45] i don't remember you could do html code. [20:46] also, I don't want to login to some crappy webinterface and have a window upload [20:46] moonshadow: the only available tags were blink and marquee :-) [20:46] when i could just save the file in a folder and be done. [20:46] beuno: you got that backwards :) [20:46] * ralsina re-checks the orgchart [20:46] nice to meet you, Roberto/Mr. Alsina :) [20:47] beuno: and who are you? ;) [20:47] ralsina: the org chart is way off :P [20:47] I'm an innocent bystander! (who would like to replace dropbox with ubuntu one) [20:47] nhaines, Chipaca is also my boss! [20:48] moonshadow: come back on monday and I will tell you exactly how to do what you want :-) [20:48] so you think it's safe for me to give my account details to u1.to? [20:48] moonshadow: I think so, yes [20:48] Thanks for the opinion. I'll give it a try :) [20:49] It must be worth a try :) [20:49] If you don't like it, you can remove u1.to access at one.ubuntu.com on your account page. [20:49] yea, but better to not grant it at all if it's not trustworthy :) [20:50] it still has my name and email. [20:50] Of course. :) [20:50] do the checkmarks actually do anything? it asked for access to three things, email usename and another i can't remember [20:50] and i put a check in front of username but not the other two [20:51] well, u1.to seems to work nicely enough. thanks! [20:51] my pleasure! [20:52] moonshadow: hope it all works out. :) [20:52] so do I! [20:53] it's a bit painful though. I guess I'll migrate all private stuff to U1 and keep the public crap on dropbox. [20:53] EOD for me. As usual, I will do a review or two at night so feel free to ask by email [20:53] and then hope for my wish to come true :) [20:53] moonshadow: Hopefully! [20:54] If I really wanted to attemt to make this real, and were willing to put up some work for it as well, do you think it would be possible? [20:54] while still staying a private person and anonymous? [20:55] Hmm, perhaps, but it's fairly traditional to use real names in open source. You could make up an alias. :) [20:55] But we just have to take you on your word that you're who say say you are, moonshadow (if that's your real name!). [20:56] i'm not quite sure in what sense you mean in terms of "make this real, and willing to put up some work for it" [20:56] actually, might be a bad idea. [20:57] usually with most open source stuff, you can implement the stuff yourself, test a bit, document a bit, and then push it or do a pull request [20:57] Tyupcally. [20:57] i don't suppose this works here, with the partially-proprietary nature [20:57] * nhaines is going to kill his keyboard today. [20:57] i don't suppose anyone gets the source to the server software? [20:57] Not that I've ever heard of. u1.to uses the public API. [20:57] employees [20:58] so is it possible to push this through without becoming an employee. [20:58] I do use my name in open source, mostly, but sometimes i like to stay anonymous. [20:58] I love my unaffiliated cloak :) === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [21:23] later all [21:24] dobey: \o_ [21:24] bye!