[00:37] <Daskreech> MDesade: Hello?
[00:37] <Daskreech> Still need help?
[00:48] <naught101> when my screen resolution changes, sometimes I end up with a "piece" of plasma sitting over the top of all my windows - eg, right now, it's on the left hand side of my primary display, and about 30px wide, and just contains some of my background image. anyone seen that before?
[00:50] <Daskreech> naught101: switching desktops doesn't get rid of it?
[00:52] <naught101> Daskreech: I only have one desktop enabled
[00:52] <Daskreech> naught101: Ah try pressing alt+ctrl+F12
[00:53] <Daskreech> wait about 20 seconds then press it again
[00:56] <naught101> Daskreech: no, did nothing
[00:56] <Daskreech> Bah that should do a full screen refresh
[00:56] <Daskreech>  are they functional or just artifacts of painting?
[00:57] <naught101> Daskreech: I can right click, and I get the context menu for the desktop, so I guess it's functional
[00:57] <naught101> Daskreech: might be related to me having two monitors plugged in
[00:57] <naught101> of different sizes, although the plasma bar width doesn't seem to have any relation to the sizes
[00:58] <naught101> Daskreech: my girlfriend's laptop also did this, and I had to find /.kde -iname "*plasma" -exec rm "{}" \; and then log out and back in to get it working again
[00:59] <naught101> Daskreech: but I'd prefer not to have to do that every time
[00:59] <naught101> is there a wa to restart plasma?
[01:00] <Daskreech> naught101: I think that you would only need to mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc.broken
[01:00] <Daskreech> naught101: sure kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 4 && plasma-desktop
[01:05] <naught101> Daskreech: that worked, except of course I lost all my plasma settings. Might try moving it back and see what happens
[01:06] <Daskreech> naught101: :)
[01:06] <Daskreech> i highly recommend moving before rm
[01:06] <naught101> Daskreech: yeah, yeah :P
[01:07] <naught101> Daskreech: thanks, that worked, got all my settings back. Funny, I actually tried restarting my girlfriends laptop last time, and that DIDN'T work..
[01:07] <naught101> luckily she didn't have much customisation when I killed her plasmarc :)
[01:08] <Daskreech> :-) It's the worst part of Linux I think
[01:09] <MDesade> hang on, just walked in the door
[01:09] <naught101> Daskreech: what's that?
[01:10] <Daskreech> MDesade: Cool
[01:10] <Daskreech> naught101: It customizable
[01:10] <Daskreech> it is
[01:10] <MDesade> you read my problem???
[01:10] <naught101> hahaha!
[01:11] <Daskreech> MDesade: Yes you are still in that state?
[01:11] <naught101> Daskreech: definitely makes it harder to maintain, I guess... lots of wacky bug reports
[01:11] <Daskreech> naught101: Also makes it suuuuuuuck when you lose your settings
[01:11] <Daskreech> I spent 6 years setting that up!!
[01:12] <naught101> yeah, although I don't usually have it so customised that I can't get it back to approximately what it was within an hour..
[01:12] <MDesade> yes
[01:12] <Daskreech> you are young :)
[01:13] <MDesade> black screen, only a mouse pointer
[01:13] <Daskreech> MDesade: does alt+f2 work?
[01:13] <MDesade> alt F2 makes some titlebar popup
[01:14] <MDesade> its the system activity
[01:14] <MDesade> so, yes, it works
[01:15] <Daskreech> MDesade: The system activity?
[01:15] <Daskreech>  that should be ctrl+Esc
[01:15] <Daskreech> alt+F2 shuld get you a floating bar at the top of the screen
[01:15] <MDesade> well, there was an icon for "system activity" and the other icon brings up "available features"
[01:15] <Daskreech> if that comes up type plasma-desktop and press enter
[01:15] <MDesade> yes, it brings it up
[01:16] <Daskreech> naught101: at some point you have cron jobs and custom scripts, aliases, kwin rules for windows, data stores for things to speed stuff up
[01:16] <Daskreech> MDesade: are you ok now?
[01:17] <MDesade> pressing enter does nothing
[01:17] <Daskreech> MDesade: when you typed in plasma-desktop did it show any entries ?
[01:17] <MDesade> nope
[01:17] <Daskreech> Should say run plasma-desktop beneath it
[01:17] <Daskreech> ok type konsole and then press enter
[01:18] <Daskreech> naught101: worst part is that you can scrub your whole machine and install a brand new distro and as long as you keep your home directory all that comes back.
[01:19] <Daskreech> So you lose sight after a while of what's defaults or what you made until you use a computer that doesn't have everything exactly as you want it
[01:19] <Daskreech> then you want to kill everyone who isn't you
[01:19] <MDesade> yep, in a terminal window
[01:19] <Daskreech> why why would you not have ctrl+shift+I?? It makes your life so much easier Raaaaaage!
[01:20] <Daskreech> MDesade: Ok in there type plasma and press tab twice
[01:20] <Daskreech> tell me if it gives you a list of options
[01:21] <MDesade> plasmaengineexplorer plasmapkg plasma-windowed plasma-overlay plasmawallpaperviewer
[01:21] <Daskreech> oh
[01:21] <MDesade> 5 choices
[01:21] <Daskreech> >_>
[01:21] <Daskreech> that's interesting
[01:21] <MDesade> what SHOULD be there?
[01:21] <Daskreech> ok can you give me a moment/
[01:21] <MDesade> sure man, i appreciate this
[01:21] <Daskreech> plasma-desktop or plasma-netbook
[01:22] <MDesade> nope, neither of those
[01:23] <Daskreech> MDesade: can you try sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace ?
[01:23] <Daskreech> in konsole
[01:23] <Daskreech> it should ask for you password
[01:24] <Daskreech> Let me know if it asks to confirm the install
[01:26] <naught101> MDesade: have you tried manually typing in plasma-desktop to the alt+f2 bar (krunner?)?
[01:27] <naught101> might just be hidden at the bottom of the list
[01:28] <MDesade> ok, which would you like me to try? the apt-get? or?
[01:29] <Daskreech> naught101: it should be the only thing in the list
[01:29] <Daskreech>  and konsole doesn't have it listed
[01:29] <Daskreech> MDesade: the apt-get please
[01:30] <MDesade> says it already is the newest
[01:31] <MDesade> 0 upgraded, 0 installed
[01:31] <Daskreech> alright
[01:32] <Daskreech> MDesade: could you try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <Daskreech> you can just press up on Konsole
[01:32] <MDesade> i was just gonna ask if there is a newer version to upgrade to?
[01:32] <Daskreech>  it will give you back the last command and you can replace kdebase-workspace with kubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <Daskreech> MDesade: I don't know what version you have now. 11.04 ?
[01:33] <MDesade> ok, 38 packages installing
[01:33] <Daskreech> hmm ok
[01:33] <MDesade> INCLUDING plasma-desktop (just saw it whiz by
[01:34] <Daskreech> MDesade: sweet
[01:34] <MDesade> ok, should i reboot?
[01:34] <Daskreech> when it's done press alt+f2 and run plasma-desktop
[01:35] <MDesade> well, hellllooooo nurse....
[01:35] <Daskreech> You can logout now and log back in
[01:36] <MDesade> all my icons are still there... sweet
[01:36] <Daskreech> should start kdeinit4
[01:36] <MDesade> disco
[01:36] <MDesade> im back up and running...
[01:37] <MDesade> THANK YOU!!!!
[01:41] <Daskreech> MDesade: cool :)
[01:41] <Daskreech> Not sure what font you changed but enjoy
[01:42] <MDesade> haha! i think this happened from installing asterisk/freepbx/FOP in a script called "freedoh"
[01:42] <MDesade> which then tells you to "apt-get purge mysql*" which takes about 40 packages and deps with it
[01:43] <Daskreech> Ah yea that would do it
[01:43] <naught101> yep, that sounds like a bad idea
[01:43] <MDesade> the dude who wrote the script is a bit of a control freak...
[01:51] <Daskreech> :)
[02:49] <dockhorn> hi, i haven't used IRC much in quite a while...  i'm looking for help with my system.  i'm running kubuntu, 10.4 i think, and it's more or less functional but does poorly with my video card setup.  is there someone who can give me a hand?
[02:52] <dockhorn> ...anybody there?
[02:55] <Daskreech> Yes
[02:56] <dockhorn> is this a good place to ask for help with getting my video card behaving better?  i'm running kubuntu 10.4, i believe
[03:07] <Daskreech> dockhorn: Sure what is the problem?
[03:09] <dockhorn> daskreech: hold on, i'm new to this irc client...
[03:09] <dockhorn> daskreech: ok, so, when i installed the OS it was able to figure out my video card (on the motherboard) and my monitor well enough
[03:09] <Daskreech> aright
[03:10] <dockhorn> daskreech: but it wasn't able to get full resolution on my main monitor at the same time that i had a second one plugged in to the second port (DVI first port, VGA second port)
[03:10] <dockhorn> daskreech: so i tried installing the fglrx drivers, and that kind of hosed things,
[03:10] <Daskreech> How so?
[03:11] <dockhorn> so i tried removing them, and now it's still not working well
[03:11] <Daskreech> ah how did you install fglrx ?
[03:11] <dockhorn> um, nothing showed up on the second monitor if they were both plugged in, and the first monitor could only operate on low-res
[03:12] <dockhorn> i found instructions online, installed proprietary drivers, lemme see if i can find the page i used...
[03:12] <Daskreech> Oh hmm
[03:12] <Daskreech> !jockey
[03:12] <dockhorn> (what does !jockey mean?)
[03:12] <Daskreech> probably should have run jockey-kde
[03:13] <dockhorn> what's that?
[03:13] <Daskreech> I thought ubottu might have known that
[03:13] <Daskreech> !info jockey-kde
[03:13] <Daskreech> Should allow you to install fglrx for your hardware pretty easily
[03:14] <dockhorn> i just run jockey from the command line?
[03:16] <dockhorn> so i ran it, it found the proprietary driver i had installed and is asking me if i want to activate it
[03:17] <dockhorn> last time i tried activating it, it didn't improve things.  if i recall correctly, i rebooted, and it never got to the screen where i could log in.  i rebooted several more times, and it finally let me log in, but the video settings weren't any better than before, so i deactivated it.
[04:14] <evanvarvell> ..
[04:14] <Daskreech> ...
[04:19] <evanvarvell> whatsnew??
[04:20] <Daskreech> Apple invented everything
[04:20] <Daskreech> also latest packages
[04:21] <Daskreech> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/newpkg?mode=byage
[04:22] <evanvarvell> what is this link^^^
[04:22] <evanvarvell> i just upgraded my packages
[04:22] <evanvarvell> who's here?
[04:22] <Unit193> You may be looking for #kubuntu-offtopic :P
[04:23] <evanvarvell> maybe
[05:37] <ssfdre38> is there a way i can put 2 sata hdd as one partition?
[05:55] <mase_work> ssfdre38: you can create an LVM
[10:14] <Arnold> KDE SC  is partially updated to 4.7.2 in Oneiric. Especially the KDE PIM part (Kontact, Kmail, Akonadi).
[10:14] <Arnold> Can't wait for the rest to be updated as well (especially KWin).
[10:15] <Arnold> Since it will bring another performance fix for it: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/08/rendering-at-60-frames/
[11:43] <lido1970> buongiorno
[11:44] <bazhang> !it | lido1970
[11:44] <lido1970> thank you ubottu
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:55] <skfin> Moin
[12:13] <Peace-> hi everyone
[12:22] <BluesKaj> hey Peace-
[12:24] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :)
[12:29] <alvin> Can anyone tell me what against what package I report the following bug? (Oneiric). Every few minutes, a message pops up "<my-mail-account-here>: Select failed, server replied: A000247 NO Permission denied". I'm very glad that permission is not denied and fetching mails works, but the constant stream of warnings is irritating.
[12:34] <alvin> Hoppakee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/868322
[12:35] <BluesKaj> alvin, best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <alvin> thx, but I reported already. I tried the upgrade in order to see if it will be production ready in a week. So far, only imapfilter, akonadi, postgresql, pulseaudio and flash broke. There are also dependency problems with qtdbus.
[12:40] <alvin> Most of those things can be fixed by someone experienced enough.
[13:36] <g0rs> Hello - anybody using skype here ? skype disappears after start and wont dock into system tray after it is closed. Is it something to do with desktop theme? I chose current desktop theme. Any ideas?
[13:37] <TheLastProject> I'm using Skype together with Kopete, but I'm not having any of those issues so I am afraid I won't be able to help you =/
[13:37] <g0rs> TheLastProject: are you using a standalone skype client?
[13:37] <TheLastProject> Yes
[13:37] <TheLastProject> 2.2 Beta
[13:37] <TheLastProject> 2.2.0.35 to be more precise
[13:38] <g0rs> TheLastProject: I have installedskype.  Skype starts but is only in the panel. If i close it , it disappears and Its not in the system tray. I'm on kubuntu natty.
[13:39] <TheLastProject> I'm using Kubuntu Natty Narwhal (11.04) as well, without any issues.
[13:39] <TheLastProject> Did you download it from the Skype website?
[13:39] <g0rs> I think I installed it from software manager
[13:39] <g0rs> cant recall the exact method used to install it.
[13:40] <TheLastProject> That may be the difference =/
[13:40] <g0rs> could be . I'll try reinstalling from their site.
[13:40] <TheLastProject> Good luck
[13:49] <g0rs> TheLastProject:  Skype has the same problem
[13:50] <TheLastProject> That's strange =/
[13:50] <TheLastProject> I wonder if Skype has any configuration files that I can give to you to maybe fix the issue =/
[13:50] <TheLastProject> Otherwise I honestly have no clue =
[13:50] <TheLastProject> =/
[13:50] <TheLastProject> (Except using the command line to purge the Skype installation and retrying_
[13:50] <TheLastProject> )
[13:51] <g0rs> i googled this issue and somebody said that it has something to do with desktop settings . but that isn't a fix.
[13:51] <g0rs> TheLastProject: i did remove skype from the folder and and re-installed it
[13:51] <TheLastProject> Hmmm =/
[13:53] <TheLastProject> Sorry, I don't know =/
[13:53] <TheLastProject> The icon shows up just fine for me =/
[13:54] <g0rs> no problem. thanks.I'll ask some other person here
[13:54] <TheLastProject> Good luck
[13:54] <g0rs> or find a solution on the internet
[15:13] <genii-around> !info debdelta
[15:15] <genii-around> GirlyGirl: ^
[16:58] <Guest52705> Hi,guys,I just wanna change the hotkeys "Alt+left mouse",any hints about this,I try to modify it in "keyboard and gesture" in system settings,but failed,any hint about this ?
[18:27] <dell> hi there guys i need urgent help on Assembly in linux using Nasm and Gas assemblers
[18:28] <dell> can u tell me the channel for it ?
[18:28] <kaddi> hi, i slightly screwed up my upgrade to natty, by shutting the PC down while he was still configuring packages. (yeah, i know, i rock). Anyhow, upon reboot everything goes reasonably well to the point where I log in and stuff starts to load and plasma crashes. I tried running it manually with plasma-desktop and it said: http://pastebin.com/eJNfaqrq Any ideas how to fix that? (I'm chatting from the broken pc)
[18:28] <kaddi> and in cxase this is relevant: i'm running 64bit
[18:29] <kaddi> (and I seem to have no sound.. but that's a minor issue)
[18:29] <dell> bump !
[18:31] <well_laid_lawn> dell: try #programming and get a nick that's not an add pls
[18:31] <dell> add ?
[18:32] <well_laid_lawn> there's been ppl lately with nicks for well known franchises and products - yours is a well known computer brand
[18:33] <well_laid_lawn> I find that dumb and offensive
[18:34] <BluesKaj> dell, he means ad as in advertisement
[18:35] <well_laid_lawn> yes I do...
[18:35] <dell> ah i c
[18:39] <JewsAreBastards> :)
[18:40] <well_laid_lawn> well the iq in the channel dropped amazingly didn't it JewsAreBastards
[18:41] <well_laid_lawn> Tm_T: ^
[18:41] <JewsAreBastards> it depends : )
[18:42] <JewsAreBastards> well_laid_lawn: the nick is not a mark for a persons IQ... I'm just racist : )
[18:43] <well_laid_lawn> racism is a mark of a depleted iq dude
[18:45] <JewsAreBastards> i feel discriminated!
[18:45] <JewsAreBastards> this is free community with the right of free speech
[18:47] <Tm_T> !guidelines | por
[18:48] <Tm_T> further discussion in #ubuntu-ops
[18:48] <por> Tm_T: i didn't saw anything about this kind of nicks ?!
[18:49] <Tm_T> por: further discussion in #ubuntu-ops
[18:49] <por> my nick is directly connected with my belives (relligion), which comes from germany... there is no rule against that !
[18:49] <por> ok
[18:52] <lorena__> ciao
[18:55] <BluesKaj> free speech doesnt give ppl the right to make racist remarks , por
[18:55] <kaddi> so it was the plasma-config files that made it crash and I have to recreate my config again.. isn't there a parser or something to make the config files from 4.4 compatible with 4.5?
[18:57] <por> BluesKaj: neither to gripe the racist remarks !
[18:57] <well_laid_lawn> don't feed the troll
[18:57] <BluesKaj> !COC | por
[18:59] <LjL> this is being handled in #ubuntu-ops as we speak, so please let's drop it and go back to Kubuntu discussion
[19:00] <kaddi> is that "message indicator" going to work with thunderbox?
[19:01] <Vulcan_07> Hello, a "newbie" here
[19:02] <Tm_T> Vulcan_07: welcome
[19:02] <Vulcan_07> thank-you
[19:19] <sluckxz> fresh install kubuntu 11.10 beta 1.  what apps do people use to manage wireless.  i dont see wicd installed by default.  kub/ubuntu beginner here.
[19:21] <kaddi> wicd isn't installed by default, NetworkManager is.. I don't recall how the app is called.. nm-applet should also be installed though
[19:24] <sluckxz> cool looks like the default kde network manager may actually work!  cool.
[19:25] <kaddi> yeah, i recently made that discovery too :p
[19:38] <BarkingFish> evening all.
[19:38] <BarkingFish> Guys, silly question maybe - but I'm trying to mix packages from versions of (K)ubuntu to get the right set of what I want, and I can't seem to get lucid's pool to add on.  Anyone got any ideas on the correct deb address for lucid main's pools please?
[19:42] <rork> BarkingFish: I guess you would be helped out if I give you my lucids /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:42] <b0sf9g7h2> hey guys is the release candidate for 11.10 out yet? if not, where can i find the latest beta/
[19:43] <b0sf9g7h2> nevermind, releases tomorrow
[19:43] <BarkingFish> rork, That might work. I'm looking for the line for software sources in kpackagekit, which starts deb http://  for the lucid pool. If that's in your sources list, that'd be fantastic.
[19:44] <rork> BarkingFish: yes, I have several of those, that's why I suggested to paste the sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702947/
[19:45] <BarkingFish> brilliant, thanks!
[19:46] <BarkingFish> I'm trying to match a stable version of a few programs with things I need, without them changing so fast that support for the stuff I use doesn't keep up.
[19:48] <rork> b0sf9g7h2: the RC will be released tomorrow, the beta2 can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta2#Download_the_Beta_2
[19:49] <vadim> hi 2 all
[19:49] <rork> hi vadim
[19:50] <vadim> does anyone use kde 4.7.x and has experience with keyboard layouts on it?
[19:51] <vadim> can't set WinKeys variant for Romanian language layout on kde 4.7.x. could someone help me?..
[19:52] <rekcuFniarB> vadim: I've no problem with it, 4.7.1 Kubuntu 11.04
[19:52] <rork> b0sf9g7h2: sorry, should've linked you to the kubuntu page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Beta2/Kubuntu
[19:52] <b0sf9g7h2> thanks rork
[19:52] <b0sf9g7h2> but i just downloaded the current daily instead
[19:57] <BarkingFish> rork - thanks for those links from the lucid pools. While I have someone who knows what they are doing, once I get a package installed that I *don't* want updating, how do I pin it to stop it being changed?
[19:58] <vadim> rekcuFniarB: same versions here... only Default variant available for Romanian layout. this leads to impossibility to type romanian diacritics. this problem started with kde 4.7.0. prior to this version there was the posibility to set WinKeys variant for Romanian layout. any idea will be helpfull...
[20:02] <rekcuFniarB> vadim: http://img.flashtux.org/upload/img132de9d35c50xc8f5802.png
[20:04] <vadim> rekcuFniarB: do you speak russian? :)
[20:04] <rekcuFniarB> Yes
[20:04] <vadim> rekcuFniarB: спасибо! помогло :)
[20:05] <rekcuFniarB> Не за что
[20:06] <vadim> rekcuFniarB - ни за что не догадался бы... я в обоих верхних комбобоксах ставил румынский...
[20:06] <vadim> rekcuFniarB - ещё раз спасибо :)
[20:06] <rork> !hu
[20:07] <vadim> bye all
[20:07] <rork> BarkingFish: You can "hold" packages at their current version: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=240
[20:11] <genii-around> !pinning
[20:47] <teezett> hi, can someone help me to configure the headphone? when i plug it the sound also comes out of the monitor boxes
[20:56] <zimbabar> Hi
[20:56] <Daskreech> hi
[21:42] <jbern> Anyone else having problems with black boxes appearing on dropdown menus while running firefox 7?
[23:00] <simon___> hello everyone
[23:00] <simon___> how can i save my passwork network
[23:01] <simon___> that everytime i start the computer i should type it
[23:17] <ib-mobile> how do I reconfigure xorg on a kubuntu 11.04 install.  It fails to run after a failed attempt to install the propriatory drivers
[23:37] <xenoxaos> I'm having an issue.  Ubuntu and Xubuntu load find on my desktop.  Gnome is pissing me off, and Xfce isn't cutting it for me.  I can't load the live cd portion. the monitors just go to power save. I can load the installer, partitioning, everything seems fine, then monitors shut off.  anyone have any ideas?
[23:38] <xenoxaos> Kubuntu that is
[23:44] <BarkingFish> Tech, BREAKING NEWS - Steve Jobs has died, statement released by Apple board of directors
[23:45] <OerHeks> just read it BarkingFish > http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
[23:45] <russ__> for real?!!!!!
[23:46] <OerHeks> yes, or apple is hacked.
[23:46] <BarkingFish> nope, it's real. Apple's not been hacked, it's an official statement
[23:46] <russ__> yeah just seen the wiki fucking WOW!!!!
[23:53] <BarkingFish> !language | russ__
[23:54] <BarkingFish> I know it's a shock, but keep it clean pls :)
[23:54] <russ__> Sorry bro