| NCommander | so rebuilding gtk-sharp causes the GUI to appear but it doesn't actually wokr | 00:09 |
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| NCommander | grumble | 00:09 |
| NCommander | GrueMaster: try testing with the debs in my panda homefolder 192.168.0.60 | 00:23 |
| NCommander | ubuntu:ubuntu | 00:23 |
| twb | NCommander: you know that's a private address, right? ;-) | 00:24 |
| NCommander | twb: I live with GrueMaster :-P | 00:24 |
| twb | You poor man | 00:24 |
| NCommander | twb: him or me :-P | 00:24 |
| brandini | yes | 00:25 |
| twb | +1 brandini | 00:27 |
| NCommander | GrueMaster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/853539 | 00:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 853539 in banshee "Banshee wont start" [Undecided,Triaged] | 00:33 |
| GrueMaster | NCommander: Wrong arch. Read the bug details. May be similar, but since it works on x86, I'm doubting it. Also, this is for 2.1.4. We are on 2.2.0 | 00:36 |
| NCommander | ugh | 00:36 |
| GrueMaster | following the gconftool-2 instructions has no effect. | 00:40 |
| GrueMaster | And the bug you want to follow is Bug #857299 | 00:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 857299 in banshee "banshee window remain white on startup on pandaboard" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857299 | 00:41 |
| NCommander | so the code that throws the exception only throws it if something is <0 | 00:54 |
| NCommander | I'm blocking ATM on how to debug this | 01:01 |
| NCommander | but it is breaking in Banshee (Hyena.Gui) | 01:01 |
| GrueMaster | I'm still loading build dependencies. Seems apt-get build-dep doesn't get all of them (gmcs, boo so far). | 01:06 |
| GrueMaster | Interesting. I may have found the issue. http://banshee-media-player.2283330.n4.nabble.com/Banshee-crashes-after-updating-compiled-version-tp3862966p3862966.html appears to say that banshee 2.2 requires mono-addins 0.6.2, We have 0.6.1. | 02:49 |
| GrueMaster | Nope. Not it (apparently). | 03:00 |
| GrueMaster | sigh. | 03:00 |
| twb | Banshee needs mono now? Sheesh. | 03:01 |
| GrueMaster | Its a mono app. Always has been. | 03:02 |
| twb | Rassum frassum | 03:02 |
| GrueMaster | Personally, I don't like either of the two gnome music apps (Banshee, Rhythmbox). But that's just me. | 03:03 |
| twb | Last time I looked at rhythmbox (8.04) it looks OK for what it was | 03:04 |
| GrueMaster | Yes, but apparently it won't work with ubuntuone (or at lease ubuntuone won't work with it). Don't ask me why. | 03:13 |
| GrueMaster | But we may revert to that for this release. Will know more Thursday. | 03:13 |
| twb | I expect canonical cares about that, but I don't :P | 03:16 |
| GrueMaster | Well, at least Pithos runs well on armel. Pandora on Panda rocks. | 03:18 |
| twb | Oh lame | 03:19 |
| twb | I thought you meant like the pandora game handheld | 03:19 |
| GrueMaster | May need to move my normal pandora setup to this system. Chumby is getting a little long in the tooth. | 03:19 |
| GrueMaster | No, online music. Beats my local collection. | 03:19 |
| twb | "We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S." | 03:20 |
| twb | There's a couple of CC-flavoured ones that I would use if I could be arsed. IIRC recent versions of rhythmbox know about them OOTB | 03:20 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, blame the industry, not Pandora. Freaking RIAA and ASCAP. | 03:20 |
| GrueMaster | Both fight for licensing rights, neither really care about the artists. | 03:21 |
| GrueMaster | I used to work in a lounge that featured live bands. During the day, they would play cds from the local bands that would play Friday & Saturday, until ASCAP came and told us to stop or pay. We even had one of the artists there, while his music was playing. | 03:23 |
| GrueMaster | At any rate, that is a long rant from 16 years ago ('95). | 03:24 |
| GrueMaster | Well, I've put in my 14 hours. Time to go veg on the tube. | 03:24 |
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| NCommander | GrueMaster: no love updating mono-addins (hadto take a brick to it to get it installed but no comparable difference :-/) | 09:00 |
| NCommander | in banshee | 09:00 |
| plasmasolutions_ | Hi guys, I've read every thread I could find on google groups but didn't find a new answer: Is hd video acceleration possible with natty on the pandaboard nowadays? I'm using the TI ppa with ubuntu-omap4-extras installed | 09:38 |
| ogra_ | no | 09:39 |
| plasmasolutions_ | And as a second question: Is there no performance governor anymore with natty? I don't find it anymore in the usual place | 09:39 |
| ogra_ | wait for oneiric or use maverick | 09:39 |
| ogra_ | Ti did no work on the natty port of the omx bits | 09:39 |
| plasmasolutions_ | ogra_: Wow fast answer...even if it's not what I hoped for ;) | 09:39 |
| ogra_ | (lets hope that makes the oneiric one twice as good :) ) | 09:39 |
| plasmasolutions_ | ogra_: I'm experienced with beta versions, is there already support for it in the current dev version of oneiric? | 09:40 |
| plasmasolutions_ | I would test it then and give feedback... | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | plasmasolutions_, i dont think TI has uploaded to the PPA yet, ndec1 might be able to giev an ETA (i would gueyy by release its there though) | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | *guess even | 09:42 |
| ndec1 | plasmasolutions_: short answer: not available now. long answer: http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/2aa25aab6635fb02 | 09:43 |
| plasmasolutions_ | ogra_: ndec1: Thank you for your help...I'm reading your post now... | 09:45 |
| plasmasolutions_ | ndec1: Wow, this post was needed... why is it so difficult to find?! Should be linked on the ubuntu wiki... | 09:50 |
| plasmasolutions_ | ndec1: So ist's more than likely that we'll get the packages once oneiric is ready...that's goog news! | 09:51 |
| plasmasolutions_ | goog = good :) | 09:52 |
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| ndec1 | plasmasolutions_: this is the last message in the pandaboard group... | 09:56 |
| plasmasolutions_ | ndec1: I'm now a member of this group...so important news will not pass away again :) | 09:58 |
| plasmasolutions_ | ndec1: So thank you very much..I have to leave now. But I will try maverick and oneiric once it's ready! Looking really forward to this release...bye | 10:01 |
| janimo | ndec1, what is the difference between gst-ducati and gst-openmax? | 10:23 |
| janimo | I read the mail you lined to above and it mentions this change in the PPA | 10:23 |
| ndec1 | janimo: they do the same thing, in the sense that they decode/encode using h/w acceleration. but they use different low level APIs to do it | 10:24 |
| ndec1 | gst-openmax uses OMX, gst-ducati uses DCE | 10:24 |
| janimo | ndec1, are they competing or is one replacing the other? | 10:24 |
| janimo | is DCE a TI-only technology? | 10:25 |
| ndec1 | yes. | 10:25 |
| ndec1 | Distributed Codec Engine. | 10:25 |
| ndec1 | codec engine is TI API for codecs | 10:25 |
| ndec1 | OMX uses CE API, and DCE uses the same API. | 10:26 |
| ndec1 | janimo: http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/2aa25aab6635fb02 | 10:26 |
| ndec1 | oops... wrong copy paste... here is it: http://bloggingthemonkey.blogspot.com/2010/11/announcing-libdce-and-gst-ducati.html | 10:26 |
| janimo | ndec1, thanks. Still not clear from it whether it is preferred to openmax. Probably not if portability is in mind. Is TI also updating gst-openmax though? | 10:29 |
| ogra_ | janimo, the point is that whatever android chooses as default should be used, else you add extra workload | 10:30 |
| ogra_ | and i think android moves away from omx | 10:31 |
| janimo | ok, but android moves to something that is not in classic linux | 10:33 |
| janimo | but I see your point | 10:33 |
| ogra_ | its not in classic lunix, but the kernel side implementation will be the same | 10:33 |
| ogra_ | *linux indeed :) | 10:34 |
| ndec1 | ogra_: no android is not moving away from OMX. | 10:37 |
| ogra_ | oh, i thought they do | 10:37 |
| ndec1 | we are moving away from what we do in android ;-) | 10:37 |
| ogra_ | i stand corrected then :) | 10:37 |
| ndec1 | ogra_: if you read that somewhere, please share the link | 10:37 |
| ogra_ | i didnt :) | 10:37 |
| janimo | ogra_, Andoid moves from OpenCore to StageFright maybe that's what you (and I) mixed up with moving from OMX? | 11:46 |
| ogra_ | yeah, i just knew everything is moving right now :) | 11:47 |
| janimo | lots of multimedia related codenames around | 11:47 |
| ogra_ | wohoo, another sprint in budapest \o/ | 11:47 |
| * ogra_ guesses infinity will like that :) | 11:47 | |
| janimo | where is it announced? | 11:48 |
| ogra_ | check your mails :) | 11:48 |
| janimo | I checked right aft6er you said it. But I rmember my inbox is lagging a bit. So will get it in 20 minutes :) | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | are ysou using uucp ? *g* | 11:52 |
| janimo | homing pigeons | 11:52 |
| ogra_ | heh | 11:53 |
| janimo | unladen though. For maximum speed | 11:53 |
| ogra_ | flying forwards or backwards ? | 11:53 |
| ogra_ | (or belly up ?) | 11:53 |
| janimo | show out of a cannon, wings tied to the body | 11:54 |
| janimo | s/show/shot/ | 11:54 |
| ogra_ | heh, yeah, that should be pretty fast | 11:54 |
| jondo | Hi everybody | 13:13 |
| brandini | morning | 13:14 |
| jondo | I have got a BeagleBoard-xM and wonder which Ubuntu release to use. | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | depends on the board revision ... the newer the more likely it is that your revision isnt supported out of the box in an older release | 13:16 |
| jondo | According to u-boot it is "Rev C". (That's probably also the meaning of the "C" sticker on the board.) | 13:17 |
| ogra_ | then i would suggest oneiric | 13:17 |
| ogra_ | latest daily, shouldnt change much until tomorrow (when we build the Release Candidate images) | 13:18 |
| jondo | This would be http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/oneiric-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img.gz then? | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | yep | 13:19 |
| jondo | Great! Because I have already tested Maverick in order to avoid Natty's https://launchpad.net/bugs/771537, and could not get it to boot. | 13:20 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 771537 in linux "Beagle XM lacks proper 1Ghz support" [Medium,In progress] | 13:20 |
| ogra_ | right,. oneiric should fix that | 13:31 |
| jondo | Thanks. I'll report back when I continue testing tomorrow. | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | great, feedback is really appreciated since we are testing for release | 13:42 |
| BlInK311 | will the new oneiric not work with the older Beaglebaord xM Rev.A3? | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | it should work with all beagle XMs that are currently available | 13:58 |
| BlInK311 | ok thanks | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | the older ones dont since the boards showed up after or around release time | 13:59 |
| ogra_ | we offer updated bootloader and kernel files you can replace on the older images, oneiric includes all these bits | 13:59 |
| BlInK311 | ok, I have an Rev A3 and a Rev B, im gonna play with both of them by the end of the week. glad to hear they will both work with oneiric | 14:00 |
| ogra_ | if you find issues, please tell us | 14:01 |
| BlInK311 | will do | 14:03 |
| BlInK311 | downloading image from link above | 14:03 |
| ogra_ | ndec1, yo ! i just got an oder acknowledgement for a 4460 :) | 14:55 |
| ndec1 | ogra_: ? | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | from TI | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | seems there is a 4460 in shipment to me | 14:56 |
| GrueMaster | I got one Saturday. Still no box though. | 14:57 |
| ndec1 | ogra_: cool! do you have the ID ? | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | hmm, there are a bunch of numbers, which is the ID ? :) | 15:00 |
| * ogra_ thinks what he just got from the postman is just a bill ... has the usual $0.00 | 15:01 | |
| GrueMaster | ndec1: The Order Ack # for mine is 143064217. Is that the number you are looking for? | 15:02 |
| ndec1 | do you have a RQST number? or the model number? | 15:03 |
| GrueMaster | OMAP4460UEVMES11GP12GHZTIWI-BLE or UEVM4460G-02-01-00. Those are the only other numbers on my copy. | 15:05 |
| ogra_ | same here | 15:05 |
| brandini | I wish it was friday and I could hack on my pandaboard | 15:15 |
| ndec1 | ogra_: GrueMaster: ok. that looks good! | 15:19 |
| GrueMaster | ndec1: Any info on the new boards? Same/similar to panda? Same power? I'd like to get mine online as soon as it arrives so that I can say it works for Oneiric. | 15:23 |
| brandini | If you get an 4460 then *I* should get a 4460 too! | 15:34 |
| brandini | You just plug that into your pandaboard and voila eh? ;) | 15:34 |
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| brandini | wonder if I could get a job doing dev for these SoC things | 16:02 |
| prpplague | brandini: plenty of job openings for skilled developers | 16:04 |
| brandini | I don't have any experience doing it, but I do have good skills and a great ability to learn | 16:05 |
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| ndec1 | brandini: as prpplague said, yes, we are always open to great people ;-) | 16:06 |
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| brandini | we == ubuntu? | 16:07 |
| prpplague | brandini: and others | 16:08 |
| brandini | wonder if there are any in NE ohio | 16:09 |
| ndec1 | brandini: i work for TI ;-) | 16:14 |
| xranby | nice sound on the panda board! | 16:15 |
| xranby | tested todays daily image 20111005 and can confirm that the fix from 1003 fixed | 16:15 |
| brandini | w00t! | 16:15 |
| brandini | Linux localhost 3.0.0-1205-omap4 #10-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 29 03:57:24 UTC 2011 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux | 16:16 |
| brandini | armv7l x3 | 16:16 |
| GrueMaster | xranby: Excellent. | 16:16 |
| brandini | ndec1: any openings near NE ohio? | 16:16 |
| xranby | GrueMaster: when testing i noted that the soundscard did not get detected while running the oem-setup but the soundcard got found when the lightdm login screen got displayed | 16:21 |
| xranby | so the first thing i heard was the login sound.. excellent | 16:21 |
| GrueMaster | xranby: That could be a pulseaudio thing. Not sure. | 16:22 |
| GrueMaster | Right now, I am fighting to get through oem-config without respawning. Seems I am the only one experiencing this (although I can do it reliably on multiple boards with different SD cards). | 16:22 |
| ndec1 | xranby: GrueMaster: i am also seing that the soundcard is detected only after loging in | 16:26 |
| ndec1 | aplay -l does not return the same thing before and after login | 16:27 |
| ndec1 | you know where it's coming from? | 16:27 |
| GrueMaster | It could be that pulseaudio is having issues running as root during oem-config. On firstboot, there is no default user and no user environment established. pulseaudio runs as a user app. | 16:30 |
| ndec1 | even after installation, i get this. if you open a console before logging into lightdm (ssh or serial), aplay doesn't return anything | 16:31 |
| GrueMaster | Very odd. On my server images, I see both Panda & PandaHDMI in /proc/asound/cards. May need more alsa tweeks. | 16:34 |
| infinity | You're supposed to see both. | 16:35 |
| GrueMaster | Yes, but you should also be able to use both. | 16:36 |
| GrueMaster | It appears we are missing a mixer device when logged in through the console (testing on ubuntu-server). | 16:41 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: On today's image, clicking on the ti icon and telling software center to use this source causes software center to crash. | 18:26 |
| GrueMaster | I'd file a bug, but I am getting an "Unexpected Form Data error from lp. sigh. | 18:31 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, ouch | 18:42 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Did you have an open bug for the "no swap" thing? | 19:21 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Going to slide that in right now. | 19:21 |
| GrueMaster | I'll look | 19:21 |
| infinity | ogra_: Did you have any urge to have swap on ac100? ac100-tarball-installer doesn't currently look for and enable it. | 19:22 |
| infinity | ogra_: (Right now, I'm just enabling it for jasper-using images) | 19:22 |
| GrueMaster | infinity: I could have sworn I had a bug filed on that, but I'm not turning up anything. Will try google. | 19:27 |
| infinity | I see nothing filed by you... | 19:29 |
| GrueMaster | I don't even see where it was removed in jasper. | 19:32 |
| GrueMaster | Wait, Revno 119 removed it from jasper and added it to livecd-rootfs. | 19:33 |
| GrueMaster | And I guess it was never enabled in the new image build tool. | 19:33 |
| infinity | Right, which is what I'm fixing. | 19:34 |
| infinity | Well, what I've fixed. Was just curious if you had a bug to reference in the changelog. :P | 19:35 |
| infinity | Which would be nice. | 19:35 |
| * infinity goes to find a drink and see if a Tobinish bug appears while he's gone. :) | 19:35 | |
| GrueMaster | Should I create one? | 19:35 |
| GrueMaster | ok | 19:35 |
| GrueMaster | Bug #868662 for you to play with. | 19:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 868662 in live-build "Switching to live-build dropped swap file creation on preinstalled images" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868662 | 19:40 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Thanks, fix uploaded. | 19:48 |
| infinity | I find myself wondering if your oem-config* issues are just bad timing with the fact that (ana)cron is still running during the install. | 19:49 |
| infinity | I'd hoped to fix that in ubiquity, but I might be running out of time. | 19:49 |
| GrueMaster | very possible. | 19:49 |
| infinity | Still annoying that I can't reproduce. Could just be because I have faster SD cards, so the timing is different. | 19:50 |
| GrueMaster | Define "faster". I have everything from class 4 to class 10, 4G-16G. | 19:51 |
| GrueMaster | Different brands even. | 19:51 |
| infinity | My testing is mostly on a 32G Lexar class 10, which actually seems to perform faster than the box should suggest. | 19:51 |
| infinity | But s/faster/different/ is all it takes for timing issues, really. | 19:52 |
| GrueMaster | Ah, well I don't have any of the extremely big ones. Cost too much still. | 19:53 |
| GrueMaster | I actually think it may be more of a kernel issue than an actual SD card issue. Same cards work fine on beagle. I even have tried the microSD cards in an adapter. | 19:54 |
| prpplague | sebjan: ping | 20:29 |
| utlemming | skaet: for tomorrow's RC and Cloud Images....did we want to promote a daily build or not? | 20:37 |
| skaet | utlemming, yes we'll want to promote the daily builds to the iso tester. | 20:38 |
| brandini | is there any word on getting mongodb to work properly on here? | 20:51 |
| brandini | I built it by hand but it's got bugs and won't start up | 20:51 |
| janimo | brandini, which version? | 21:04 |
| janimo | the one in oneiric? | 21:04 |
| janimo | do you have a bug link in LP? | 21:04 |
| janimo | brandini, if not, please file one with details and add tag arm-porting-queue to it | 21:05 |
| infinity | Erm, haven't we talked about it before? | 21:27 |
| stephen_ | hi# | 21:27 |
| infinity | mongodb needs serious upstream love to support anything !x86. | 21:27 |
| stephen_ | hi | 21:27 |
| stephen_ | Trying to get HDMI working with my pandaboard on my HDMI tv. It doesnt seem to autodetect the edid and set the sscreen correctly | 21:28 |
| stephen_ | anyone have any suggestions on what I could do? | 21:28 |
| GrueMaster | stephen_: Which Ubuntu release? | 21:28 |
| infinity | brandini / janimo: | 21:28 |
| infinity | The mongodb server depends on both little-endianness and unaligned memory | 21:28 |
| infinity | access, which I believe means it can only work on i386 and amd64. We believe | 21:28 |
| infinity | that the mongodb will be useful even it is not available for all Debian | 21:28 |
| infinity | supported platforms. | 21:29 |
| stephen_ | Im running natty 11.04 | 21:29 |
| stephen_ | (pandaboard precompiled image) | 21:29 |
| infinity | stephen_: Is the TV pluggged in when you boot? Hot-plugging HDMI seems to be a bit iffy here. | 21:29 |
| GrueMaster | I just hit an oddity. Switched my keyboard/mouse to a different system, and it reported caps-lock opposite of the keyboard LED. | 21:29 |
| stephen_ | all plugged in on boot yeh | 21:29 |
| stephen_ | my TV is slightly older, only supports 720p | 21:30 |
| stephen_ | (I need HDMI mode 16 I believe, 1280x720@50Hz) | 21:30 |
| GrueMaster | stephen_: You might try the latest daily for Oneiric. A lot of changes have been made to the edid code. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current | 21:30 |
| stephen_ | ah I wasnt aware one of those was avilable yet :) I'll certainly give that a shot. If not, where is a good resource for bootargs | 21:31 |
| stephen_ | I was having a look around, but the wiki I saw was a bit light | 21:31 |
| GrueMaster | I'll have to look for the bootargs, but I think they are on omappedia.org | 21:32 |
| stephen_ | for bootargs, when I create a boot.scr would I just need the opne arg, or are there other trimmings requred? | 21:34 |
| infinity | You shouldn't need any args at all, unless autodetection still fails us. | 21:34 |
| GrueMaster | infinity: On some sets it may. Hence why I suggested using Oneiric as a test first. | 21:35 |
| stephen_ | I will be giving oneric a shot as soon as I can. After that Ill pop back if I don't have any luck | 21:36 |
| stephen_ | Im expecting that it wont work, as my TV is probably a bit useless. | 21:37 |
| stephen_ | I just had a look at boot.script in my /boot directory | 21:37 |
| AustereGrim | Ok, so I think I'm going to start putting my abilities to getting ubuntu arm on the android toshiba thrive... | 21:37 |
| stephen_ | is it just a plain text file, or will I be needing to use the boot.scr way (I forgot the exact commands) | 21:38 |
| GrueMaster | AustereGrim: Cool. Good luck. If you succeed maybe we can add it to our community images next cycle. | 21:38 |
| AustereGrim | GrueMaster I hope, it's more of a hopeful endeavour, I just don't see me needing to make another android image that someone else is already doing the same thing... | 21:39 |
| GrueMaster | stephen_: The link you want for the display parameters is http://omappedia.org/wiki/Bootargs_for_enabling_display | 21:42 |
| stephen_ | ah i see | 21:43 |
| stephen_ | omapfb.mode=1280x720MR-24@50 | 21:44 |
| stephen_ | is that what I would likely want? | 21:45 |
| GrueMaster | Possibly. Not sure about your system. | 21:52 |
| MrCurious | got a second grue? | 21:52 |
| stephen_ | for HDMI is it more likely that sort of thing, or setting omapfb.hdmimode | 21:54 |
| GrueMaster | MrCurious: Barely, what's up? | 21:55 |
| GrueMaster | stephen_: I think the omapfb.mode is what you want, but I'm not really sure. | 21:57 |
| MrCurious | was thinking about reinstalling pandaboard ubuntu and was wondering if the usb speed fix has made it into the distro's yet and if you knew | 21:57 |
| stephen_ | thanks anyway :) | 21:58 |
| stephen_ | ill try oneric, then experiment :) | 21:58 |
| GrueMaster | MrCurious: It is in Maverick-updates and Oneiric. I have to test Natty-proposed as soon as it comes up (this week I hope). | 21:59 |
| MrCurious | awesome | 21:59 |
| MrCurious | so i just have to be a little more patient :) | 22:00 |
| infinity | MrCurious: Or just install oneiric and help test. ;) | 22:01 |
| MrCurious | is Oneiric a 11.10 variant? | 22:02 |
| GrueMaster | One and the same. | 22:02 |
| MrCurious | then i definitely need to give it a test run (in a week when the fix i hang on is in) | 22:03 |
| infinity | MrCurious: Hrm? | 22:03 |
| infinity | MrCurious: What fix is that? | 22:03 |
| MrCurious | usb speed | 22:03 |
| infinity | MrCurious: It's in. | 22:03 |
| MrCurious | hard disk/camera | 22:03 |
| GrueMaster | Maverick=10.10, Natty=11.04, Oneiric=11.10, and as of today, Precise=12.04. | 22:03 |
| infinity | MrCurious: It's only natty where the fix is lagging. It's been in oneiric for ages. | 22:04 |
| GrueMaster | MrCurious: It is in on the Oneiric builds for a few weeks now. | 22:04 |
| MrCurious | then i have something for this weekend. locating its download spot now :) | 22:04 |
| GrueMaster | MrCurious: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current. | 22:05 |
| GrueMaster | Even has working audio. | 22:05 |
| MrCurious | even better, but i was only about 2 clicks away from there, and i lost the race :( | 22:05 |
| MrCurious | thanks, will cry and complain once i get it installed :P | 22:07 |
| MrCurious | that was funnier before i typed it | 22:07 |
| infinity | I'll go put on my ignoring IRC pants. | 22:08 |
| MrCurious | guess i wont be quitting that day job any time soon | 22:09 |
| GrueMaster | heh | 22:16 |
| zul | hey how do you get into single user mode on the pandaboard? | 22:17 |
| GrueMaster | Single user mode? I would guess it is the same on any Ubuntu platform (not that I know what that is). | 22:18 |
| GrueMaster | MrCurious: If you ask any silly questions, I will be forced to make you listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIPWGAzEZlA | 22:20 |
| GrueMaster | :P | 22:20 |
| AustereGrim | I was reading about that... in the creation of a live cd. | 22:21 |
| AustereGrim | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization if it helps | 22:21 |
| AustereGrim | uhm single user mode... | 22:21 |
| AustereGrim | "Removing the (Casper) Autologin" ? | 22:22 |
| AustereGrim | or reverse of that? | 22:22 |
| zul | GrueMaster: with uboot? | 22:22 |
| AustereGrim | or is that something different than what you're looking for zul? | 22:23 |
| zul | something different i changed a permission on a file that i shouldnt have and now i cant login i need a way to init=/bin/sh with ubuntu | 22:24 |
| zul | s/ubuntu/uboot/g | 22:24 |
| AustereGrim | ah... i get you... sorry. | 22:25 |
| janimo | infinity, thanks, had no idea they were so non-portable. I wonder if it was a consciously made trade-off or it just happened | 22:25 |
| janimo | maybe in order to dealwith their bson format they do byte level manipulation or it is too slow | 22:25 |
| GrueMaster | zul: SD or USB drive? OYu can just mount the device on a pc (running linux) and reedit the file. | 22:25 |
| zul | GrueMaster: sd card i dont have an sd reader handy | 22:26 |
| GrueMaster | Ah. | 22:26 |
| infinity | janimo: I imagine it could be ported (but perhaps with non-portable DB formats, which is fairly common for that sort of thing), but I also suspect it would be some Serious Effort. | 22:28 |
| janimo | infinity, their focus is probably speed (that's what I keep hearing about mongo) so they do not even consider ARM for the moment | 22:29 |
| brandini | janimo: thanks for the reply | 22:29 |
| brandini | I'm running daily | 22:29 |
| infinity | janimo: ARM likes speed! | 22:29 |
| infinity | janimo: But yeah. I don't think it's a "throw a few hours at the problem" deal, I think it's a "get deeply involved upstream and seriously think it through" thing. | 22:29 |
| janimo | brandini, see what infinity said, that is likely more helpful than what I said. Still a bug in LP as a reminder/tracker would not hurt, maybe even linked to an upstram bug if it exists | 22:29 |
| janimo | infinity, well fox likes grapes too | 22:30 |
| infinity | janimo: Is that a Romanian saying? | 22:30 |
| brandini | janimo: they have a bug filed in their tracker | 22:30 |
| brandini | they being mongodb | 22:30 |
| janimo | infinity, hmm, I think it is from one of Aesoph's fables | 22:30 |
| janimo | fox saying grapes wee sour after it could not reach them | 22:30 |
| janimo | but regardless, probably a bad analogy | 22:30 |
| brandini | are there alternative nosql DB's that run on arm? | 22:31 |
| janimo | as in ARM likes speed, but cannot attain it at the level x86 does these days | 22:31 |
| janimo | brandini, couchdb does | 22:31 |
| brandini | excellent | 22:31 |
| infinity | brandini: By "nosql", you mean not SQL, or not an RDBMS server? | 22:32 |
| janimo | casandra and other java based ones are affected by java itself being slow and buggy on ARM | 22:32 |
| janimo | open source java that is | 22:32 |
| AustereGrim | java, slow? buggy? nooo... that can't be... . | 22:32 |
| infinity | (And it also depends on how you want to access it... If via libraries and bindings is cool, the options are endless...) | 22:32 |
| infinity | BDB and SQLite being the two usual choices, though. | 22:33 |
| brandini | ugh, an apache project :) | 22:33 |
| brandini | how well does couchdb run on the pandaboard? | 22:37 |
| brandini | I can give it an SSD to store its data on :) | 22:37 |
| MrCurious | grue: little fluffy clouds rocks | 22:42 |
| MrCurious | perhaps the worse version of the song, but at the same time intriguing | 22:44 |
| MrCurious | wow! even a surprise ending | 22:46 |
| MrCurious | sounded a bit jordi to me | 22:46 |
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