| ntrly_owl | ikt: yes, i ran into the python error on wicd 1.7.90 | 02:13 |
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| ntrly_owl | 1.7.0 | 02:13 |
| ntrly_owl | head_victim: script sounds useful thanks | 02:42 |
| ntrly_owl | should 10.04 be distro updated to 10.10 or 11.10? | 04:06 |
| blahdeblah | ntrly_owl: You can chose whichever one you prefer. LTS releases can be upgraded to the next LTS release, or to the next normal release. | 04:07 |
| ntrly_owl | 11.10 isnt lts is it? | 04:07 |
| blahdeblah | ntrly_owl: I'm not sure about 11.10 | 08:15 |
| head_victim | ntrly_owl: you should go 10.04 > 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 or you can just wait for 12.04 and then go 10.04 > 12.04 The only release jump officially supported is from LTS to LTS. | 08:18 |
| head_victim | Gday blahdeblah | 08:18 |
| sagaci | hi | 08:25 |
| ntrly_owl | ok | 08:54 |
| ntrly_owl | ill just go 10.10 for now i guess | 08:54 |
| head_victim | ntrly_owl: you can try it but it's not generally recommended. | 08:55 |
| head_victim | If you break it you get to keep all the pieces. | 08:56 |
| ntrly_owl | yeah any kind of distro update on ubuntu breaks too much stuff | 08:56 |
| blahdeblah | head_victim: hi | 09:27 |
| blahdeblah | head_victim: LTS to the next non-LTS has been officially supported as long as i can remember | 09:27 |
| head_victim | blahdeblah: yeah that's what I was trying to say, jumping releases except lts to lts is not recommended | 09:28 |
| blahdeblah | And i'm saying the opposite :-P | 09:29 |
| blahdeblah | I've done it several times with no ill effects | 09:29 |
| head_victim | blahdeblah: you've skipped releases without dramas? | 09:30 |
| blahdeblah | no, not skipped - just LTS to the *next* non-LTS e.g. from 8.04 to 8.10 or 10.04 to 10.10 | 09:31 |
| head_victim | Ah yeah, I think I"m more tired than I thought. | 09:31 |
| head_victim | Yeah non lts to non lts is no dramas but from 10.04 to 11.10 might be a stretch unless you do it in intermediate steps | 09:32 |
| blahdeblah | Yeah - i definitely wouldn't try that without jumping through the other distros | 09:33 |
| blahdeblah | Although, i have upgraded from 8.04 to Debian 5 (lenny). ;-) | 09:33 |
| head_victim | I'm awaiting 12.04 to update this machine. Unity has come a very long way in the last 6 months (using in VMs) and would probably start with 11.10 if it weren't for the upgrade path being convoluted from 10.04. | 09:37 |
| head_victim | I wasn't happy with 11.04 but 11.10 is looking good | 09:37 |
| gorilla | head_victim: what about Unity? | 10:04 |
| head_victim | I'm starting to like how it's progressing. 11.04 was far too beta for me but 11.10 is starting to come together. | 10:04 |
| gorilla | Here's hoping as it could annoy half the community if it doesn't gel with the masses. | 10:05 |
| head_victim | Yeah, I'm hoping the refinement continues. I've been trying to compare it to other new GUIs and I'm starting to think will do more than enough for my needs. | 10:07 |
| head_victim | At least in 11.10 it's back to being able to chop and change the DE without breaking things. | 10:08 |
| gorilla | Here's hoping that Windows 8 is as bad as people have been saying. The alternative OS would needs another Vista. | 10:17 |
| head_victim | On a brighter note I was asked to set up a windows 7 pc the other day. I had to decline because I'm so far out of how to set them up securely I couldn't honestly even attempt that anymore. | 10:18 |
| gorilla | head_victim: Ditto. Though I am considering a Windows laptop for work purposes. Need to figure out how to secure that.. wihout recurring fees for anti-virus and the like. | 10:20 |
| head_victim | gorilla: if you figured it out please let me know, the wife still "has" to have windows on her PC. | 10:20 |
| head_victim | I'm getting a crappy Dell for my work laptop that I'm going to use for personal use by installing Ubuntu to a USB stick and booting off that | 10:21 |
| gorilla | I have installed AVG free on a windos machine at work.. appears to work okay. It doesn't receive email so I'm not sure how to see if it is working. | 10:24 |
| head_victim | Going to see if I can stretch the integrated video to Urban Terror or something. | 10:24 |
| head_victim | In the past I've used AVG, Spybot S & D and common sense | 10:24 |
| gorilla | the terrorist wins! | 10:25 |
| gorilla | common sense is okay untill someone else uses the laptop. | 10:25 |
| head_victim | My parents call me whenever something looks suss to see if it's ok to install/open/upgrade | 10:32 |
| gorilla | better than being called to undo the mistake. I must say that my folks seem to keep themselves out of trouble pretty well. | 10:33 |
| head_victim | Yeah never once had anything really go wrong other than hardware failure so here's hoping it stays like that | 10:34 |
| gorilla | you should be okay. :-) | 10:35 |
| head_victim | My brother's are another story | 10:36 |
| ntrly_owl | hmm | 10:37 |
| ntrly_owl | how do you add a 10.10 cd as a source to dist-upgrade from on 10.04? | 10:37 |
| ntrly_owl | apparently it says 'insert cd to use as source' etc but its greyed out | 10:37 |
| ntrly_owl | and cd is inserted | 10:37 |
| head_victim | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#Upgrading_Using_the_Alternate_CD.2BAC8-DVD | 10:39 |
| ntrly_owl | its the desktop cd i think |: | 10:39 |
| ntrly_owl | ill ask | 10:39 |
| ntrly_owl | what is this command line crap | 10:50 |
| ntrly_owl | why doesnt ubuntu have a gui for upgrading >_> | 10:50 |
| head_victim | ntrly_owl: does it you have the network :) | 10:51 |
| ntrly_owl | true | 10:51 |
| head_victim | Read the first part of the link I posted just before | 10:51 |
| ntrly_owl | Use this method if the system being upgraded is not connected to the Internet. ? | 10:52 |
| ntrly_owl | 3. A dialog will be displayed offering you the opportunity to upgrade using that CD. | 10:53 |
| ntrly_owl | this doesnt happen | 10:53 |
| ntrly_owl | lame | 10:53 |
| head_victim | Are they using the alternate? | 10:53 |
| ntrly_owl | desktop i think | 10:54 |
| ntrly_owl | cant you update from that | 10:54 |
| head_victim | According to the wiki, needs to be alternate | 10:54 |
| ntrly_owl | bummer | 10:54 |
| head_victim | Speaking of which I linked you to the Natty upgrade not the Maverick | 10:55 |
| head_victim | So just swap Maverick to Natty BUT the instructions are the same either way | 10:55 |
| ntrly_owl | yeah i found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades?highlight=%28\bCategoryUpgrade\b%29 | 10:55 |
| sagaci | hi | 10:56 |
| head_victim | Cool, well it does specifically say alternate so I'd say it does need to be the alternate | 10:56 |
| head_victim | Evening sagaci | 10:56 |
| ntrly_owl | alrighty | 10:57 |
| sagaci | not sure how much internet I'll have coming up to this weekend, I have my phone but that's no replacement for a desktop/laptop with ethernet | 10:57 |
| sagaci | I'll be fine for this weekend's meeting though | 10:57 |
| head_victim | No worries, fingers crossed the party goes off well | 10:58 |
| head_victim | Remember the pictures ;) | 10:58 |
| * gorilla goes off to kick his printer. | 10:58 | |
| head_victim | I'm heading off to do some other work I think. | 10:59 |
| head_victim | ntrly_owl: good luck with the upgrade, the wiki page you ahve knows more than I do anyway by the looks so just follow it and there shouldn't be an issue. | 10:59 |
| gorilla | an upgrade of kernel didn't go well. | 10:59 |
| head_victim | Ah, I have 2 HP printers and both are great and never had a hitch | 11:00 |
| ntrly_owl | ok | 11:03 |
| ntrly_owl | didnt work on desktop cd | 11:03 |
| ntrly_owl | i have 2 hp printers too ^^ | 11:04 |
| ntrly_owl | how long would this upgrade take? should it be left overnight? | 11:05 |
| head_victim | ntrly_owl: my experience - 10 - 15 mins but depends on the machine | 11:06 |
| gorilla | head_victim: it's not the printer that's the problem. The issue was that somehow I had installed a Xen enabled kernel, hardware doesn't support it, kernel panics and reboots. On reboot, kernel panics, reboots. | 11:13 |
| ntrly_owl | c2d box | 11:17 |
| ntrly_owl | iirc | 11:17 |
| head_victim | sagaci: nearly finished Kubuntu-Docs | 11:20 |
| sagaci | goodo, looking to get to around ~80,000 by release date | 11:21 |
| head_victim | These aren't in Ubuntu, they're in the Launchpad ones | 11:21 |
| sagaci | so we just have to do what we did this cycle for the next one too | 11:26 |
| sagaci | signing into the ubuntu wiki on a bad connection, this should be fun | 11:28 |
| head_victim | sagaci: https://translations.launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs/oneiric/+lang/en_AU | 11:49 |
| sagaci | goodo, I glad I got chromium-browser done for this cycle | 11:52 |
| head_victim | And fingers crossed the xchat comes through | 11:54 |
| sagaci | yeah, hopefully | 11:55 |
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