| shayonj | what do i do if i cant find the version number of a package ? (contact the author) ? | 00:14 |
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| micahg | shayonj: where is this package? | 00:17 |
| shayonj | micahg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/590082 | 00:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 590082 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] batchcommander" [Wishlist,New] | 00:17 |
| micahg | no idea | 00:19 |
| shayonj | yeah, i am gonna rest it for a while | 00:20 |
| shayonj | then | 00:20 |
| shayonj | debian does not accept packages built with cdbs ? | 01:10 |
| shayonj | anyone ? | 01:11 |
| broder | what? no - something around 20% of packages in debian use cdbs | 01:12 |
| broder | (give or take...a lot - i haven't checked the stats recently) | 01:12 |
| shayonj | broder, i see...well i thought so too. but i cant make sense of this - http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html | 01:12 |
| broder | shayonj: that's referring to a specific feature of cdbs - DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_DEBIAN_CONTROL | 01:13 |
| broder | which automatically regenerates the debian/control file at build-time. it's a bad idea | 01:13 |
| shayonj | well my control file was generated by dh_make.. how do i find that out if its used DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_DEBIAN_CONTROL | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | unless you changed it, it wouldn't have done it | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | you can check in debian/rules though | 01:14 |
| * RAOF would also *generally* use dh rather than cdbs, but that's a matter of preference and it's by no means mandatory. | 01:14 | |
| broder | is anybody actually recommending cdbs for new packages these days? i feel like it's mostly moved into legacy territory | 01:15 |
| * ajmitch thinks you'd be more likely to get sponsors by not using dh, but that can depend on if it's something that's covered by a team in debian, and their preferences | 01:15 | |
| shayonj | i see | 01:15 |
| shayonj | well the only Deb i got in my rules file is DEB_PYTHON_SYSTEM=pysupport | 01:15 |
| micahg | ajmitch: not using dh? | 01:15 |
| shayonj | thats it | 01:15 |
| ajmitch | micahg: bah, I *meant* not using cdbs :) | 01:16 |
| ajmitch | micahg: brain & fingers didn't likne up | 01:16 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 01:16 |
| ajmitch | ^ again | 01:16 |
| * ajmitch drinks more caffiene & shuts up | 01:16 | |
| * micahg was going to suggest an afternoon caffeine hit :) | 01:17 | |
| nigelb | caffeine..hrm! | 01:17 |
| shayonj | i have a python package it builds and installs fine. but i believe its installing in the wrong place. any help on this ? | 02:14 |
| ScottK | shayonj: Is it a package you want to get into Ubuntu or Debian? | 02:20 |
| shayonj | ScottK, ubuntu | 02:21 |
| ScottK | Sure. Where is it? | 02:21 |
| shayonj | ScottK, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/606231 | 02:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 606231 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Tornado" [Wishlist,New] | 02:22 |
| ScottK | When can I find your pacakge? | 02:22 |
| shayonj | ScottK, https://github.com/downloads/facebook/tornado/tornado-2.1.1.tar.gz | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | how is this different from the python-tornado package in universe? | 02:23 |
| micahg | nothing apparently :) | 02:25 |
| ScottK | Looks like the same thing. | 02:25 |
| shayonj | ouch | 02:25 |
| shayonj | good thing to practice on ;) | 02:26 |
| shayonj | ajmitch, thanks :P | 02:26 |
| ScottK | shayonj: Is that a package you have interest in or just one you thought needed working on? | 02:27 |
| jbicha | shayonj: also if you want to package a new Python app for Debian or Ubuntu, please use dh_python2, we're trying to get rid of python-support | 02:27 |
| shayonj | ScottK, i am kind of in a learning stage.so just trying my hands on some real projects thats it. But dont worry wont mess it up.. thought it would be a good way to learn....but yes i did run rmadison and couldnt find it.. | 02:28 |
| shayonj | jbicha, oh alright. sure, i will note that. | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | shayonj: sorry to spoil things like that :) | 02:49 |
| shayonj | ajmitch, hah no its cool. learn one more thing i this :) | 02:53 |
| shayonj | this=guess | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | for what it's worth, I did a search for "debian ITP tornado" to see if someone had filed a bug for it in debian, it it had turned out to be fixed there | 02:54 |
| shayonj | right | 02:55 |
| shayonj | will take care of this next time :) | 02:56 |
| shayonj | i got a question. there are many packages i see, which have been tagged as [need-packaging] but already have a .deb file in the git/sourceforge | 02:58 |
| shayonj | any idea about this? | 02:58 |
| jbicha | shayonj: just because there are deb's available does not mean that they meet the standards for inclusion in the Debian/Ubuntu archives | 02:59 |
| shayonj | jbernard, oh yes i understand. But what am i saying is, should we go ahead and see and if possible make them fit to the standards ? | 03:00 |
| shayonj | and submit to revu ? | 03:00 |
| micahg | also, they don't usually include the source | 03:00 |
| broder | or were built with alien or something | 03:00 |
| shayonj | i see | 03:00 |
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| shayonj | when we create a package is it mandatory or something to create for other ubuntu versions ? Atm i am testing only on lucid | 04:42 |
| shayonj | x86 and x86_64 | 04:42 |
| micahg | shayonj: only needs to work on the devel release and future releases | 04:43 |
| shayonj | micahg, sounds good. thanks ! | 04:43 |
| shayonj | after run the linitian test i get this - native-package-with-dash-version | 05:15 |
| shayonj | any help with tih s | 05:15 |
| shayonj | this ? | 05:15 |
| shayonj | i do have the 3.0 (native) in source/format | 05:15 |
| shayonj | if i remove it, lintian gives me another message saying it is missing...what should be done ? | 05:15 |
| shayonj | also the same for watch file | 05:16 |
| shayonj | everything is fixed now. thanks anyways ) | 05:19 |
| shayonj | :) | 05:19 |
| shayonj | need some help with native/quilt ...anyone up here ? | 05:33 |
| RAOF | What's the question? | 05:38 |
| shayonj | RAOF, i got 3.0 (native) in source/format | 05:39 |
| shayonj | and when do i do the lintian test | 05:39 |
| RAOF | That's almost certainly wrong. | 05:39 |
| shayonj | it shows me this message | 05:39 |
| shayonj | you mean i should have quilt ? | 05:39 |
| RAOF | A native package is one for which there is no upstream - ie: some software which only makes sense in Ubuntu and Debian. Things like dpkg and apt are native, as they're Debian specific. If you're packaging some software, it's not a native package. | 05:40 |
| shayonj | okay | 05:40 |
| shayonj | but wait a sec | 05:40 |
| shayonj | sorry about that.. so you mean its fine to have a .debian.tar.gz instead of a .diff | 05:42 |
| shayonj | .diff.gz | 05:42 |
| shayonj | or may be i just read the english wrong here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic#CommonMistakes | 05:42 |
| shayonj | they just described what native and quilt and its not under common mistake | 05:43 |
| shayonj | (?) | 05:43 |
| RAOF | The .debian.tar.gz is a 3.0 (quilt) thing; that's the right thing to have. | 05:46 |
| shayonj | phew | 05:46 |
| shayonj | thanks RAOF ..just got confuse with the english i guess | 05:47 |
| RAOF | The packaging guide is possibly out of date, too :/ | 05:47 |
| shayonj | yeah i kinda had a hard time matching up two same type of info.. specially in case of copyright | 05:52 |
| shayonj | do i need to debdiff after i performed debuild and pbuilder ? because i already have the .debian with me | 05:54 |
| RAOF | A debdiff is a the difference between two versions of the same package. Since you don't have two versions of this package, it doesn't make sense to have a debdiff. | 05:55 |
| shayonj | guess i will just make notes where all does it needs update on the packaging guide... | 05:55 |
| shayonj | anyways thank RAOF . its been lot of pacaking. time to hit bed. Thanks so much :) | 05:56 |
| shayonj | packaging * | 05:56 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:56 |
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| jamespage | morning all | 08:01 |
| SanbarComputing | There is a problem with the following UBT wiki. I wrote an e-mail to the author, but got now reply. Who can I ask about it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Devbeginnings | 08:45 |
| SanbarComputing | s/now/no | 08:45 |
| micahg | SanbarComputing: #ubuntu-beginners | 08:45 |
| SanbarComputing | micahg: thanks | 08:46 |
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| Laney | Rhonda: are you aware that packages.u.c has 404 links to copyright files? | 10:32 |
| Laney | some are there ... | 10:33 |
| Laney | ah, maybe it links to $package.copyright when it should be just copyright | 10:33 |
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| nigelb | Hi, I helping add something to the etherpad that dholbach mailed about. | 11:06 |
| nigelb | I need some help phrasing this | 11:06 |
| nigelb | What I want to add is that you need not be a member to contribute | 11:07 |
| Rhonda | Laney: the copyright and changelog files are extracted and get published on a different host | 11:14 |
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| Laney | Rhonda: seems like it's just a matter of fixing the link? | 12:04 |
| Laney | currently it goes to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/o/ocaml-dssi/ocaml-dssi_0.1.0-1/libdssi-ocaml.copyright but it should be http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/o/ocaml-dssi/ocaml-dssi_0.1.0-1/copyright for example | 12:05 |
| Rhonda | The thing is, that would break other things | 12:06 |
| Rhonda | multiple binary packages in a single source package | 12:07 |
| Laney | I suppose they could technically be different | 12:09 |
| Laney | I don't know how the importer decides when to create binary.copyright | 12:11 |
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| jtaylor | someone feel like sponsoring bug 811721? | 16:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 811721 in pycryptopp (Ubuntu Natty) "update pycryptopp to version 0.5.29-1 in natty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811721 | 16:45 |
| jtaylor | last reply is an ack from SRU if I did not misinterpret it | 16:45 |
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| tumbleweed | jtaylor: is there anything else of yours that needs action for oneiric? | 16:47 |
| jtaylor | yes one thing, but thats still wip :/ | 16:47 |
| tumbleweed | ok, reminder again to apply for upload rights | 16:48 |
| jtaylor | yes, I delayed it as I needed to judge how much time/will I still have for it after starting my new job | 16:49 |
| tumbleweed | you don't need to commit to any particular amount of time :) | 16:49 |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: sponsored | 17:34 |
| jtaylor | thx | 17:35 |
| jtaylor | yey only 6 month and it is finally fixed :) | 17:36 |
| jtaylor | I hope ;) | 17:36 |
| tumbleweed | it still needs to be approved and SRU verified... | 17:40 |
| jtaylor | yes but thats not needs to be done by me ;) | 17:44 |
| alkisg | Hi. I have a native package (I'm upstream + packager). So I do `debuild -S -sa; dput ...` and upload it to my PPA for e.g. Lucid. | 19:20 |
| alkisg | The problem is that if I want to reupload it for e.g. Natty, launchpad refuses it because the source is already uploaded | 19:21 |
| alkisg | How can I handle this? | 19:21 |
| jtaylor | don't use -sa for that | 19:21 |
| alkisg | So, run `debuild -S -sd` for a second time, and upload to natty? | 19:21 |
| alkisg | With the same package version? | 19:22 |
| alkisg | The package is not in the ubuntu archives, so the first time I do have to upload it | 19:22 |
| jtaylor | hm not sure, but I think the version must be different | 19:23 |
| jtaylor | ~natty1 added or so | 19:23 |
| alkisg | Hm. Then it would be faster to not have a native package, i.e. to split the source from the packaging | 19:24 |
| jtaylor | "Version numbers must be unique. This has implications if you want to provide packages for multiple Ubuntu series at once:" | 19:24 |
| alkisg | I could then upload the source once, and use the same `debuild -sd` for all the other series | 19:24 |
| jtaylor | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage | 19:24 |
| * alkisg reads... | 19:24 | |
| jtaylor | "If your package does need to be recompiled to support multiple Ubuntu series, then you should add a suffix of a tilde and the series name to the version number" | 19:24 |
| alkisg | jtaylor: sorry I forgot to thank you - I ended up using a recipe so that I don't have to create a script for all those ~lucid1, ~natty1 uploads | 20:45 |
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| jtaylor | gna I overlooked another important bugfix in meld git :/ | 21:20 |
| jtaylor | btw thats another package where the sync from experimental should never have been made | 21:21 |
| tumbleweed | just how much do you use meld? | 21:21 |
| jtaylor | very much | 21:21 |
| * tumbleweed uses it a couple of times a year | 21:21 | |
| jtaylor | I pretty much daily | 21:21 |
| jtaylor | whenever there is something to compare | 21:21 |
| jtaylor | I'm all in favor of tightening the sync rules from exp | 21:22 |
| jtaylor | there is a reason it is a development version and that its only in experimental | 21:22 |
| jtaylor | and whoever requested the sync never even commented on any of the resulting bugs | 21:23 |
| tumbleweed | :/ | 21:24 |
| tumbleweed | well, at least we have someone caring for it now | 21:26 |
| shayonj | where can i find a list of sections in ubuntu. i somehow lost the link..cant find it now. anyone ? | 22:08 |
| shayonj | its for the debian\control | 22:09 |
| tumbleweed | http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ | 22:09 |
| shayonj | tumbleweed, thanks | 22:16 |
| shayonj | this program doesnt has a man page and when i run lintian on .changes it tells me it cant fine one. is it okay not to have a man page ? | 22:56 |
| RAOF | shayonj: Maybe. Generally what that means is that it's time to write a manpage (which can be pretty easy with the help of help2man and similar tools) | 23:00 |
| shayonj | RAOF, okay. looking into it. thanks :) | 23:01 |
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| kaushal | Hi | 23:43 |
| kaushal | is there a glassfish version 3 package available for 8.04 ? | 23:43 |
| shayonj | anyone here uses(ed) pod2man ? | 23:57 |
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