[02:36] <IdleOne> sent him a PM
[02:36] <IdleOne> and the guidelines
[02:37] <IdleOne> ok so we got us some kids playing
[02:37] <Madpilot> same silly person? different IPs...
[02:37] <IdleOne> possibly
[02:38] <IdleOne> to close to be a coincidence imo
[02:38] <Madpilot> ya
[02:39] <Corey> What do you mean close?
[02:39] <Corey> They're in different /8s
[02:40] <IdleOne> in timing
[02:40] <IdleOne> is what I meant
[02:40] <IdleOne> so either same person from diff ip's or two people trooling together
[02:41] <IdleOne> trolling also
[05:44] <Corey> IdleOne: Well, could also be that one gave the idea to the other.
[06:12] <elky> is trooling where they're drooling while they troll?
[08:28] <bazhang> RHEL comes in iso ?
[08:28] <ikonia> RHEL can be installed from an ISO
[08:28] <ikonia> if you have access to the rhn to get it
[11:07] <ikonia> would someone consider talking to jonathon in #ubuntu in private about the random suggestions and incorrect advice he's pushing to people. I've tried to speak to him but he doesn't get it, it maybe better coming from someone else
[11:14] <jonathon> That wasn't fair
[11:14] <jonathon> You shouldn't ban people just for disagreeing with your outlook :(
[11:14] <ikonia> jonathon: I'm sorry I had to forward you here, but I am trying to lead you in disucssion in #ubuntu and your attitude is growing progressivly useful, so I've brought you to this channel to discuss it
[11:15] <jonathon> Fine, I'll calm down, sorry
[11:15] <ikonia> no problem
[11:15] <ikonia> jonathon: I am simpley asking that you slow down in what you are saying in #ubuntu, understand the issue, and think before applying advice to people
[11:16] <jonathon> Alright
[11:16] <ikonia> scale back on the assumptions, listen to what the person wants and try to get solution for them, not what you want them to use
[11:17] <ikonia> eg: the previous discussion, you assumed the user was on a home network and had no security concerns, despite him saying he wanted secure transfer
[11:17] <ikonia> it turned out you where correct, the user was on a home network and the concerns where not valid
[11:17] <ikonia> however you didn't check that in any way shape or form despite him saying clearly he had security needs
[11:18] <ikonia> if you can slow down and think, I don't think there will be an issue
[11:18] <ikonia> is that acceptable ?
[11:18] <jonathon> Yea, see I always thought FTP Was secure, I didn't really know it was plaintext only
[11:18] <ikonia> jonathon: well, there is another issue
[11:18] <jonathon> I'm no grandmaster yet :P
[11:18] <ikonia> your suggestions are not knowledagle
[11:19] <ikonia> eg: you where telling people to mount the disks on /root/media because you thought /root and / where the same thing
[11:19] <ikonia> you've suggested ftp as a secure solution
[11:19] <ikonia> instead when people pulled you up on it of listening, you responded with arguing
[11:19] <ikonia> the people in the channel will peer review your comments, it's worth listening
[11:20] <ikonia> there are some experienced guys who will correct you to help you and the other person
[11:20] <ikonia> are you comfortable with that ?
[11:20] <jonathon> Yea, I do get a bit ahead of myself sometimes
[11:20] <jonathon> Yes
[11:20] <ikonia> ok, I'll remove the forward and you can join again
[11:20] <ikonia> 1 moment
[11:20] <jonathon> Thank you
[11:20] <ikonia> ok, it's removed you can leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu
[11:21] <jonathon> Thanks
[11:54] <Tm_T> ikonia: that went well (:
[18:36] <oCean> any -server ops available? Pici Tm_T ?
[18:37] <Tm_T> yes
[18:38] <Tm_T> I have some issues but, what is it?
[18:38] <IdleOne> 2 of his clients also /notice he is away
[18:38] <oCean> Tm_T: g0t_ has a active google script (try in -server   !google | test) He has been banned for this several times
[18:39] <oCean> I removed/banned them from #u, earlier
[18:39] <Tm_T> ah, I'm on it
[18:50] <oCean> hello por, how can we help you?
[18:51] <Tm_T> 2144.29 -!- JewsAreBastards [~vlagalish@88.80.134.199] has left #kubuntu [requested by Tm_T (please don't return until having a proper nick)]
[18:51] <por> Tm_T: send me here to continue our konversation
[18:52] <por> i've said to him that there is no rule agains nicks and a persons belives/religion
[18:52] <oCean> por: well, I can understand that, seeing what nick you used there
[18:53] <oCean> por: there is a general rule of respect
[18:53] <por> which is equal to discrimination
[18:53] <oCean> por: sorry?
[18:53] <LjL> Be respectful. The Ubuntu community and its members treat one another with respect. Everyone can make a valuable contribution to Ubuntu.
[18:54] <por> yes i respect all of the guys : ) but i still have my belives
[18:54] <oCean> por: not just us, you have to respect everyone
[18:54] <LjL> "us" includes jews, anyway, sorry for the bad news por
[18:57] <por> free speach means that nobody can gripe other persons believes
[18:57] <por> otherwise its communism
[18:58] <Tm_T> por: irc doesn't have a thing called "free speech"
[18:59] <Tm_T> por: let's make this clear so there's no room for doubt: racist remarks, nicks or any racistic behaviour is not tolerated on ubuntu channels
[18:59] <por> oh so you're all communist, you wan't everybody to be equal to others but don't let everybody to speak freally( nothing personall, sorry, i won't ever help in any linux irc channel again ) : ) be free
[19:00] <LjL> bye
[19:00] <Tm_T> PaulW2U: yes?
[19:01] <Tm_T> (:
[19:05] <LjL> vyrgozunqk: if you have no fuhrer business in here, please part
[19:06] <LjL> (typo! i swear. maybe.)
[19:06] <Tm_T> aww
[19:09] <oCean> PerfM: 'sup?
[19:10] <PerfM> oCean, just came in for a hello, you know~~
[19:11] <oCean> PerfM: sure, thanks. If that was all please /part
[19:11] <PerfM> oCean, it's national sad day today, and you're making me sadder
[19:12] <PerfM> but fieen, no one has hearts nowadays anyways, amirite?
[19:12] <ikonia> can someone now please put a ban on him in this channel
[19:13] <ikonia> "her" sorry
[19:13] <IdleOne> I would ask that the ircc set the ban as to not appear biased.
[19:13] <LjL> does it bother you that much? i just had a laugh
[19:13] <ikonia> to be honest the constant repetition of it does
[19:13] <ikonia> there is no reason to allow it
[19:13] <IdleOne> I find it extremely annoying like most of you do but at the same time it could be so much worse
[19:14] <ikonia> just +b it and lets stop playing these stupid games with her
[20:00] <mrmist> if you put up a ban, it'll only encourage her, I expect.
[20:12] <Pici> !nickspam > pangolin
[20:12] <pangolin> lol
[20:12] <pangolin> I know :(
[20:12] <pangolin> this is it until next release name announcement
[20:14] <rww> oh, that was /you/?
[20:14] <pangolin> it is
[20:14] <rww> time to /msg nickserv fungroup pangolin
[20:15] <pangolin> fungroup?
[20:15] <rww> pangolin: forced ungroup :3
[20:15] <pangolin> y u no luv me
[20:16] <rww> i hold grudges for a long time
[20:16] <pangolin> I sorta like this nick. I may just keep using it as my main nick
[20:33] <LjL> so do i, rww, so do i
[21:25] <bazhang> pangolin is the next release name?
[21:25] <bazhang> !pangolin
[21:25] <bazhang> whoa
[21:26] <jrib> what is a pangolin?
[21:26] <charlie-tca> a scaly anteater
[21:27] <jrib> reminds me of a badger
[21:27] <maco> is it what happens when an anteater and an aardvark love each other very much?
[21:27] <genii-around> They look alien
[21:27] <jrib> breezy badger best release ever
[21:27] <charlie-tca> heh, that's good, maco
[21:28] <jrib> they should make it the wallpaper
[21:28] <jrib> (maco's comment)
[21:29] <jrib> hmm
[21:30] <jrib> how many animals can there be that start with the letter 'q'?
[21:39] <jrib> "no shell" = "no graphic interface" how interesting
[21:53] <Myrtti> ah, ant pinecone
[21:53] <Myrtti> that's what it is called in Finnish
[21:55] <charlie-tca> Really?
[21:55] <Myrtti> yup
[21:55] <charlie-tca> does that eat ants?
[21:56] <Myrtti> well it's only a translation of the Finnish name of pangolin ;-)
[21:56] <charlie-tca> Ah, I see
[22:48] <rww> !-pangolin
[22:48] <rww> !-precise
[22:48] <rww> aww, i'm less than a day behind on news
[22:48] <rww> i need to pay less attention
[22:56] <bazhang> oneiric onwards can be dd'd?
[22:56] <bazhang> forgot the terminology to describe that kind of distro
[23:01] <Jordan_U> bazhang: I believe so. I usually call it a hybrid image.
[23:01] <bazhang> Jordan_U, thats it, thanks
[23:02] <Jordan_U> bazhang: You're welcome.
[23:19] <bazhang> * [CimarronTij] (~efsenable@76.164.225.249): merdam  <---- thought he was banned in #ubuntu