Daviey | * Please can someone accept libvirt, thanks * | 01:02 |
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highvoltage | /win 32 | 01:03 |
infinity | /linux | 01:04 |
infinity | Daviey: You've gone over it with combs of various fine-toothiness? | 01:04 |
Daviey | infinity: yes, it was discussed earlier. :) | 01:05 |
Daviey | There is a Ubuntu grown patch which is smaller to resolve the same issue, but the consensus was upstream cherry pick. | 01:06 |
Daviey | (and is passes the qa-regression-testsuite) | 01:06 |
Daviey | and oddly, seems to work :) | 01:07 |
infinity | Weird. | 01:07 |
Daviey | infinity: thanks | 01:07 |
ScottK | infinity: Thanks. | 01:37 |
ScottK | That one ^^^ should fix pulse/skype integration. | 03:23 |
infinity | ScottK: Wait, is that why Skype keeps freezing up on my system? | 03:38 |
ScottK | Not sure. I mostly know it fixes phonon not finding pulse. | 03:39 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 03:40 |
infinity | The patch feels incorrect to me, but it does what it says on the tin. | 03:40 |
infinity | (It would make more sense, surely, to try to detect if there's only a two-part version, and only then spoof the 0? Unless Pulse upstream has decided to move to two-part versions indefinitely, I guess) | 03:41 |
* micahg doesn't understand why software make versions dependent on mutiple parts of a version | 03:46 | |
infinity | micahg: When that version defines an API, it gets interesting. | 03:47 |
infinity | micahg: Which is the case with Skype. | 03:47 |
infinity | Or, rather, how Skype was using pulseaudio. | 03:47 |
infinity | From what I can tell. | 03:47 |
infinity | And others, I'd assume. | 03:47 |
micahg | still, shouldn't the function that checks the version do a sane check regardless of how many points in the version? i.e. 1.0 > 0.9 or whatever | 03:48 |
infinity | Probably. | 03:48 |
infinity | But if you're used to checking for major.minor.patchlevel, you might do it wrong. :P | 03:48 |
infinity | And fixing everything that does that is harder than just keeping a consistent scheme. | 03:48 |
micahg | yes, if you're checking for an exact match, that's probably wrong, we've seen this before (kernel) | 03:49 |
infinity | Oh, I know. | 03:49 |
infinity | I just want dpkg --compare-versions in the standard libc. :P | 03:50 |
SpamapS | Has anyone tried a debootstrap of oneiric in the last 3 hours? | 03:57 |
SpamapS | We're getting a corrupt Packages.gz problem | 03:57 |
* ScottK debstraps a chroot from inside a chroot to see what happens. | 03:58 | |
ScottK | deb/deboot | 03:59 |
SpamapS | might have cleared up | 04:12 |
ScottK | deboostrap inside a chroot is apparently like crossing the streams. | 04:21 |
ScottK | boo/boot. | 04:21 |
infinity | SpamapS: What was the actual error message? | 04:33 |
* infinity sees no issues on an hour-old mirror. | 04:35 | |
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pitti | infinity: mesa-utils> sorry, didn't see that it was from a universe source; in my obsolete world model it was built by mesa | 06:29 |
pitti | so let's not worry about this for oneiric then | 06:29 |
micahg | hi pitti, I will hopefully have a chromium upload for oneiric shortly , do I need buy in again from lubuntu and mythbuntu? | 06:32 |
pitti | micahg: as for potentially breaking their daily build, or what for? | 06:33 |
micahg | pitti: for potentially breaking their RC? | 06:33 |
pitti | I missed how that worked previously; but I guess can't hurt to ping them | 06:34 |
pitti | micahg: does it build an arch:all package with strict dependencies? | 06:34 |
micahg | I was supposed to update for beta 2, but it never happened | 06:34 |
pitti | so that a late amd64 build would break installability? | 06:34 |
micahg | yes | 06:35 |
* micahg will run a test i386 build after amd64 finishes | 06:35 | |
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pitti | infinity: ^ this is a looong story; are you interested in hearing it, or just want me to review? | 07:55 |
pitti | (4 people, 2 hours of discussion, an etherpad, and two merge proposals) | 07:56 |
pitti | but now we at least all have a shared understanding what lightdm did wrong, and what needs to happen | 07:57 |
pitti | infinity: accepting, I'll take the bullets | 08:03 |
micahg | pitti: will it make much of a difference if I upload chromium now or in ~8 hrs? | 08:43 |
pitti | micahg: how long does it build? but in general, the earlier the better | 08:58 |
micahg | pitti: i386 3hrs, amd64 1hr, armel 24 | 08:59 |
pitti | micahg: oh, then please "now" | 09:01 |
micahg | pitti: ok | 09:05 |
micahg | pitti: can you review chromium as soon as it gets in, I'd like to go to sleep soon :) | 09:32 |
pitti | micahg: thanks, accepting | 09:34 |
pitti | Laney: why do we need the dbus-sharp sync? it doesn't seem to change anything compared to our version in oneiric? | 09:37 |
micahg | pitti: thanks, I'll check for any issues in the morning my time, have a good day | 09:37 |
pitti | micahg: sleep well, thansk! | 09:38 |
Laney | pitti: indeed, it was just to get the pkg back in sync. The world looked rather empty so I jumped in there. | 09:41 |
* cjwatson will be out for a bit - taking K to physio | 10:05 | |
pitti | ^ that's from me, review appreciated | 10:12 |
pitti | seb128: would you mind peer-reviewing http://launchpadlibrarian.net/82012196/gnome-menus_3.2.0-0ubuntu1_3.2.0-0ubuntu2.diff.gz ? | 10:19 |
seb128 | pitti, can do | 10:19 |
seb128 | pitti, do you think bug #864174 should be rc? | 10:19 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 864174 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "boot hangs waiting for lightdm after purging gdm (wrong default-display-manager) (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/864174 | 10:19 |
seb128 | not sure how often it happens, or how | 10:19 |
pitti | seb128: I think this can be SRUed, as it's pretty much an upgrade matter | 10:21 |
pitti | seb128: but if we can get a fix nowish, fine for me to get it in | 10:21 |
pitti | I think I switched between gdm and lightdm quite a bit, but /e/X/d-d-m seems alright for mne | 10:21 |
pitti | this doesn't look very straightforward to me, or is there a known case where "lightdm" gets written there? | 10:22 |
seb128 | pitti, gnome-menus> ack from me | 10:23 |
pitti | seb128: thanks, accepting | 10:23 |
seb128 | pitti, no fix that I know about, I'm just concerned it might be a real issue, dobey hit it this week and his box was hanging on an empty screen (from an user perspective) | 10:23 |
pitti | seb128: yes, no doubt about the importance | 10:24 |
seb128 | ie. bug #856810 is similar | 10:24 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 856810 in netcfg (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Boot hangs at "Booting system without full network configuration..." (affects: 14) (heat: 76)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856810 | 10:24 |
pitti | seb128: I just think that fixing it in an SRU will be fine, as it doesn't affect a clean install | 10:24 |
seb128 | ok | 10:24 |
pitti | that doesn't mean that we are not allowed to fix it for release :) | 10:24 |
pitti | just that it's not a blocker | 10:24 |
seb128 | pitti, right, well I mentioned it there just in case r-t wants to "track" it | 10:26 |
mvo | fwiw the update-notifier one is not critical, that is equally fine for -update IMO too | 10:27 |
mvo | the software-center one would be nice because at least the "empty whats new" field will be a bad first run experience | 10:27 |
pitti | mvo: u-n> oh, uh -- wouldn't it be easier to just ignore the auto-open key? | 10:54 |
pitti | that seems quite a large and rather untested change to me at this point (also for SRU) | 10:54 |
pitti | jibel, cjwatson, skaet: FYI, current amd64 live oversizedness (just a tad) is due to the new langpack deltas from yesterday, and will be fixed on Friday when we get fresh ones | 11:56 |
mvo | pitti: fair enough, could you please write that in the bug? I'm not sure what the unity-2 status is actually, but if the whitelist/blacklist is all sorted it may wait for P | 12:02 |
tumbleweed | ScottK: the pyside fix I uploaded is actually a bug in cmake-data (expecting all qt4 modules to live under QT_LIBRARY_DIR). I'm suprised it hasn't affected other Qt4 + cmake programs (or maybe it has, and we haven't noticed) | 12:44 |
tumbleweed | or if that's a reasonable expectation, then it's a bug in phonon not being multiarched | 12:45 |
stgraber | good morning | 13:18 |
stgraber | can I get a respin of Edubuntu to pick up the new ubiquity please? | 13:18 |
Laney | argh, our new overlord! | 13:18 |
stgraber | ;) | 13:19 |
nigelb | Congrats stgraber :) | 13:20 |
stgraber | thanks nigelb | 13:21 |
ScottK | tumbleweed: I have a vague recollection about this and I think the phonon developers said pyside was making unreasonable assumptions. | 13:28 |
ScottK | I thought it was fixed though. | 13:28 |
tumbleweed | ScottK: the fix was broken (sorry barry), see the bug the upload closes | 13:31 |
tumbleweed | and it's not pyside making that assumption, but cmake-data | 13:31 |
ScottK | I see. | 13:34 |
stgraber | cjwatson, infinity, pitti, skaet: Can one of you trigger a respin of Edubuntu? | 14:20 |
pitti | sure | 14:20 |
stgraber | thanks | 14:20 |
pitti | stgraber: running | 14:20 |
pitti | cjwatson, infinity: I'm uploading apport for disabling for final release; should be accepted together with kerneloops on Friday, I just wanted to get the upload out of the way (to be able to stash P fixes into bzr) | 14:42 |
skaet | pitti, ack. | 14:53 |
ScottK | Sigh. Alternates grew 8MB overnight. | 15:53 |
cjwatson | pitti: I just NEWed some language packs and realised they seem inconsistent again | 16:51 |
cjwatson | pitti: language-pack-kde-ky but no language-pack-kde-ky-base; language-pack-kde-my but no language-pack-kde-my-base; language-pack-mhr-base but no language-pack-mhr; language-pack-gnome-mhr-base but no language-pack-gnome-mhr | 16:52 |
GrueMaster | skaet: Are we not doing an RC release this week? Or is this just another daily test week? | 17:10 |
skaet | GrueMaster, we'll be spinning up a full set of ISO images tomorrow and populating the ISO tracker for everyone to do the testing, but won't be posting on the web site. | 17:10 |
GrueMaster | Ah, ok. | 17:11 |
ogra_ | skaet, do you have an ETA ? we still have that banshee issue and i would like to have as much time as possible before we decide if we switch to RB or not (seed change + meta upload) | 17:11 |
* GrueMaster goes back to the arm pit. | 17:11 | |
skaet | ogra_, as soon as the langpacks land was the plan with pitti. | 17:12 |
ogra_ | skaet, oh, and we need to talk about an EOL message for lucid armel :) | 17:15 |
ogra_ | (happy to do that after release though) | 17:15 |
GrueMaster | Yes. Kill it please. I'll even bring a Titanium Spork to UDS if necessary. | 17:16 |
kenvandine | doko, i just uploaded the ido ftbfs on armel fix | 17:50 |
kenvandine | i didn't get to do an armel build on it, but it works on amd64 and should build on armel too | 17:50 |
skaet | ogra_, after release +1. | 17:58 |
doko | kenvandine, thanks, however it still ftbfs, see https://launchpadlibrarian.net/82046752/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.ido_0.3.0-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:29 |
doko | please test build on kakadu | 18:29 |
kenvandine | doko, ok... i'll look | 18:29 |
kenvandine | ok, never tried that before :) | 18:29 |
infinity | kenvandine: Or test build on scheat, it's much faster. :P | 18:32 |
kenvandine | infinity, wow kakadu is slow... i figured ido is quick to build so who cares if it is an extra couple minutes | 18:41 |
kenvandine | doko, uploaded again, fixed the last failure | 19:00 |
doko | kenvandine, looks fine, but I can't approve. infinity: ^^^ | 19:11 |
kenvandine | great | 19:11 |
ScottK | So I guess we can update devscripts, ubuntu-dev-tools, etc now: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 | 19:19 |
slangasek | at last :) | 19:23 |
tumbleweed | ScottK: thankfully we've been trying to use distro-info for all of that. /me pokes bdrung | 19:34 |
ScottK | I think debootstrap doesn't use that. | 19:45 |
tumbleweed | yeah, devscripts needs a patch too | 19:45 |
micahg | ooh, maybe deboostrap should be patched to use distro-info at build time :) | 19:47 |
ScottK | Normally we get debootstrap unmodified from Debian. | 19:47 |
ScottK | (they have Ubuntu releases in theirs) | 19:47 |
ScottK | I don't think we should mess with that. | 19:48 |
micahg | debian could probably benefit as well as they have distro-info | 19:48 |
micahg | or at least be willing to take a patch | 19:50 |
ScottK | I guess you know what to do with that idea .... | 19:50 |
infinity | slangasek: Care to give that a quick once-over for me? --^ | 19:54 |
slangasek | lookin | 19:54 |
slangasek | infinity: --swap-file-size argument is relative to the root? | 19:58 |
slangasek | (tested?) | 19:58 |
infinity | slangasek: Yeahp. Ends up using chroot/$LB_SWAP_FILE_PATH | 19:58 |
* slangasek nods | 19:58 | |
slangasek | accepted | 19:58 |
infinity | And I assume you mean s/size/path/ ;) | 19:59 |
slangasek | yes :) | 19:59 |
infinity | slangasek: I don't want to touch xdiagnose with a 20-foot pole, I suspect it's more up your alley. | 20:06 |
slangasek | oh, is it? | 20:06 |
infinity | Well, it does sketchy upstart things, which you've become intimate with lately. :P | 20:07 |
infinity | (And that's totally my excuse for not reviewing the rest of the diff) | 20:07 |
* slangasek chuckles | 20:10 | |
skaet | block post has been made, we have a name for P now. :) | 20:10 |
skaet | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 | 20:10 |
skaet | s/block/blog/ | 20:11 |
charlie-tca | pronouncable and spellable, too! | 20:11 |
slangasek | infinity: actually, I may have written that patch to the upstart job ;) you sure you don't want to review it after all? :) | 20:12 |
slangasek | yes, p-a-n-g-o-l-i-n, pronounged "panguin" | 20:12 |
charlie-tca | huh? | 20:13 |
skaet | http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?pangol02.wav=pangolin | 20:14 |
skaet | slangasek, ^ I think the "l" is pronounced. ;) | 20:14 |
slangasek | skaet: depends on the accent! I'm pretty sure I heard "penguin" ;) | 20:15 |
skaet | slangasek, lol, :) | 20:15 |
* charlie-tca was thinking this was finally an easy name :) | 20:16 | |
tumbleweed | yeah, the l should be pronounced | 20:16 |
charlie-tca | obviously, locale specific ;) | 20:16 |
* ScottK will look at python3-defaults. | 20:37 | |
ScottK | Daviey: ^^^ updating memcached looks like pure fixing goodness. There's a lot of noise in the diff, but once you get to the meat of the changes it's all good. http://code.google.com/p/memcached/wiki/ReleaseNotes146 and http://code.google.com/p/memcached/wiki/ReleaseNotes147 are the upstream changelogs. | 20:38 |
cjwatson | I've uploaded debootstrap to unstable with the 'precise' symlink; I guess I should do a fast-track sync of that rather than waiting for LP to pick it up? | 21:00 |
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Daviey | ScottK: looking, sorry for the delay - on really bad ()[Dbut free[C wifi | 21:16 |
ScottK | Daviey: Thanks. | 21:17 |
infinity | Daviey: Seems "sane" to me, for some value of "sane" that includes "upstream has some very, very, very bad programmers". | 21:22 |
infinity | Daviey: But their ugly code appears to do what it says it should. :P | 21:22 |
infinity | Daviey: But since you seem to still be looking at it and not noticing I've reviewed it, I'll wait until you're done. :) | 21:23 |
* cjwatson fast-syncs debootstrap, since nobody's complained | 21:24 | |
cjwatson | I'll miss being able to do this ;-) | 21:25 |
infinity | cjwatson: "this" being fake syncing, or syncing from cocoplum? | 21:26 |
Daviey | infigah! :) | 21:27 |
tumbleweed | if we could get lp to harvest packages from incoming.debian.org, native syncing could be fast too... | 21:27 |
ScottK | We can't even get LP to keep up with what's in the actual Debian archive. | 21:28 |
tumbleweed | yeah, that could be faster | 21:28 |
cjwatson | infinity: scp blahblah cocoplum:, then copy to ~lp_archive/syncs/ on cocoplum and dpkg-scansources . /dev/null >Debian_incoming_main_Sources; sync-source.py -b cjwatson -S incoming debootstrap | 21:29 |
infinity | cjwatson: I'm sure that we can get incoming scanning as a feature at some point. Maybe. | 21:30 |
infinity | cjwatson: (It might be another one to put on the list of "stuff that should be done before you take away our shells") | 21:30 |
cjwatson | I could've fakesynced as an alternative, so not critical. | 21:32 |
infinity | cjwatson: Though, doing it properly means having the full Debian keyring handy, since incoming offers no signed Sources.gz. | 21:32 |
cjwatson | Indeed, and keeping that in sync, and and and | 21:33 |
kirkland | umm, i just just accidently uploaded byobu to oneiric | 21:47 |
kirkland | i meant to just upload to PPA, but I neglected to give the do-not-release-to-oneiric flag in my release script | 21:48 |
kirkland | it's relatively harmless (affects the experiment, non-main byobu-tmux bits) -- but it should probably be rejected at this point in the release | 21:49 |
kirkland | sorry | 21:49 |
kirkland | lots and lots of apologies | 21:49 |
NCommander | cjwatson: infinity: I've gotten a request to add impitool for armel. Any chance we can slip an upload in for it? (it only needs a change to the Architecture line to build, and possibly a P-a-s change) | 21:49 |
infinity | NCommander: Do we know why it was excluded? | 21:49 |
infinity | kirkland: Rejected, and removed byobu from oneiric entirely for good measure. | 21:50 |
kirkland | infinity: :-D | 21:50 |
NCommander | infinity: not sure. it requires a kernel module which I'm unsure is available for armel, but IMPI hardware is in the pipeline | 21:50 |
slangasek | kirkland: fwiw, AAs do have access to the unapproved queue for rejects | 21:51 |
slangasek | (just not permission to accept stuff from it unless they're also wearing a release team hat :) | 21:51 |
infinity | ipmitool: i386 amd64 ia64 powerpc # i386 specific | 21:51 |
* infinity likes how that comment fails to match the arch line. | 21:51 | |
NCommander | infinity: yeah, I saw that :-/, no comment. | 21:52 |
infinity | NCommander: So, there's a claim that we'll be seeing IPMI BMCs on ARM, and this might actually work? | 21:53 |
infinity | NCommander: If so, sure. Upload, but not until I've fixed P-a-s. | 21:53 |
NCommander | infinity: yeah. | 21:53 |
kirkland | slangasek: thanks -- i realized that after i asked | 21:54 |
infinity | (And make sure you've done a local test build) | 21:54 |
NCommander | infinity: already did the test build. Poke me when P-a-s is fixed (might as well add both armel and armhf so we don't need to smack this again in P-cycle) | 21:54 |
infinity | I already added both, yes. :P | 21:55 |
infinity | Though we have a massive armhf patch landing later anyway. | 21:55 |
NCommander | infinity: thatwas fast :-) | 21:55 |
infinity | Not sure which machine creates build records these days. | 21:56 |
infinity | If it's cocoplum, you're good to go. If not, wait 15 minutes for cron to update P-a-s elsewhere. :P | 21:56 |
infinity | (You can upload now, I just won't accept for "a while". | 21:57 |
infinity | ) | 21:57 |
NCommander | infinity: upload away | 22:05 |
NCommander | infinity: thanks for your help | 22:05 |
cjwatson | infinity: I think it's cesium | 22:19 |
ScottK | Daviey: Conclusions on memcached? | 22:19 |
infinity | cjwatson: cesium dispatches builds, it's unclear to me what creates them. I *think* it's done by cocoplum on accept. | 22:20 |
Daviey | ScottK: I dropped off it as infinity had it in hand. | 22:23 |
infinity | Daviey: ahh, all I saw was garble from you. :) | 22:23 |
infinity | But yes, I've reviewed it. | 22:23 |
infinity | I'll poke it through. | 22:23 |
Daviey | Sorry, laggy connection is hurting. | 22:24 |
infinity | Daviey: S'all good. | 22:25 |
utlemming | skaet: are you around | 22:26 |
* infinity looks at the 9MB ubuntu-docs diff and sighs. | 22:26 | |
skaet | utlemming, yup. what's up? | 22:26 |
utlemming | skaet: for our RC tomorrow, do we want to spin up some RC Cloud Images or just rely on the regular daily? | 22:27 |
cjwatson | for the other images I was just going to let the daily builds take care of it | 22:29 |
* cjwatson doesn't see a need for unnecessary work :-) | 22:29 | |
utlemming | sounds good to me | 22:30 |
skaet | utlemming, what cjwatson says. | 22:30 |
skaet | :) | 22:31 |
cjwatson | I'd appreciate review of localechooser; part of my last work item for the Qin images | 22:33 |
cjwatson | (still testing the other part) | 22:34 |
bdrung | tumbleweed, ScottK: distro-info updated (will be synced tomorrow) | 23:13 |
tumbleweed | bdrung: I updated devscripts git, but the ubuntu upload needs a core-dev. I assume some of these also need SRUs | 23:19 |
bdrung | yes | 23:20 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: i could sponsor you ;) | 23:20 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: can we get a list of packages that needs a modification? | 23:20 |
tumbleweed | I suppose I could whip up a patch. We mentioned debootstrap, devscripts, distro-info, and older ubuntu-dev-tools, can't think of anything else right now | 23:22 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: i hope that i will have time to modify devscripts to use distro-info | 23:23 |
cjwatson | I've done debootstrap (for precise, not for distro-info) | 23:24 |
bdrung | cjwatson: "ubuntu-distro-info -a | grep -v gutsy" should do the trick for you | 23:27 |
cjwatson | not now | 23:27 |
cjwatson | there's a list of other ones in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewReleaseCycleProcess | 23:28 |
cjwatson | anyway, debootstrap can't depend on distro-info | 23:28 |
cjwatson | it'll have to continue being bumped by hand | 23:28 |
tumbleweed | bdrung: yeah, I left that for you. devscripts: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703067/ | 23:32 |
slangasek | cjwatson: maybe it could use it at build time, though? | 23:32 |
cjwatson | I suppose that would be possible | 23:33 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: dch is the last item on the list to make that work on debian and ubuntu better | 23:33 |
* slangasek blames LVM for bug #818177 \o/ | 23:46 | |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 818177 in udev (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 3 other projects) "boot failures caused by udev race (affects: 7) (heat: 54)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818177 | 23:46 |
cjwatson | ooh, progress | 23:49 |
slangasek | and that is an Ubuntu-specific udev rule in lvm2 | 23:50 |
cjwatson | the watershed one? | 23:56 |
slangasek | /lib/udev/rules.d/85-lvm2.rules in toto is Ubuntu-specific, yes | 23:56 |
cjwatson | that dates from UDS-Seville; I recall that there was a very detailed blueprint, if that helps | 23:56 |
slangasek | I'm not saying it's wrong that we have it... just that we're on our own for fixing it ;) | 23:57 |
cjwatson | yeah | 23:57 |
cjwatson | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/udev-lvm | 23:57 |
infinity | Mountain View is in Seville now? :) | 23:59 |
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