[01:26] <kdub__> all alone at the ubuntu hour :(
[01:26] <kdub__> DarkwingDuck still coming?
[01:27] <DarkwingDuck> :( My ride forgot about me.
[01:27] <DarkwingDuck> I'm 30 miles out.
[01:28] <DarkwingDuck> I don't think I'll be able to make it... I was hoping tht lady who wanted help installing would be there.
[01:28] <DarkwingDuck> Sorry Kev...
[01:28] <kdub__> ah, dang
[01:28] <kdub__> alright then
[01:29] <kdub__> phil couldnt make it either, guess its a bust this time
[01:29] <kdub__> i'm gonna head out, this place makes me a touch uncomfortable
[01:39] <pleia2> yikes, no one is sticking around in case others show up?
[01:43] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: any release party plans down there?
[01:45] <pleia2> I think jono, grantbow and I being out of town during the release is a perfect storm for nothing happening up here ;)
[01:45] <akk> When is the release?
[01:45] <pleia2> thursday the 13th
[01:46] <akk> And btw, is there a url with info on the upcoming ubuntu release, in general, with dates and links to downloads?
[01:46] <akk> I had some trouble a few days ago finding a valid link to a beta2 iso (googling -- never been able to find it from ubuntu's top level site).
[01:47] <pleia2> there's the release calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ and the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[01:48] <pleia2> the wiki one actually links to all the details
[01:48] <akk> Yeah, the wiki page looks like what I would have wanted.
[01:49] <akk> Now I'm trying to figure out what I should have searched for on the wiki to find it (so I'll be able to find it for the next release).
[01:49] <pleia2> "release schedule" is usually a good bet
[01:50] <pleia2> searching for the version name or number works in google
[01:50] <pleia2> 11.10 release cycle or oneiric release cycle
[01:50] <akk> I was searching for oneiric beta in google -- it took me to a page that had only mac ISOs but didn't say it was a mac page.
[01:51] <akk> I was very confused about why there were 64-bit builds but no x86 builds for oneiric until I finally noticed the -mac- in the filenames.
[01:52] <pleia2> huh, that is annoying
[01:53] <akk> Searching for "oneiric downloads" on the wiki doesn't find anything, so that wouldn't have worked. "oneiric beta" gets a huge long list of png files.
[01:53] <akk> I'll try to remember "release schedule" even though I was only looking for downloads at the time, not the schedule.
[01:53] <pleia2> IS at Canonical isn't exactly great at SEO though, for a very long time edubuntu.org wiki pages would come up before the identical ubuntu.com ones, was very annoying
[01:54] <akk> I really wish there was some link, maybe a small one, on ubuntu's main site for "beta builds" or "help us test" or something.
[01:54] <pleia2> they used to, but they got really bad feedback from "normal people"
[01:55] <akk> oh, sigh
[01:55] <pleia2> it was two-fold, people didn't realize that beta meant testing (thanks google for your gmail beta, et al) or they thought all of ubuntu was beta software
[03:49] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2: No. Libertopia looks like it will be cancelled too... They are kicking us out of our apt for termite tenting
[04:04] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2: I'll see what I can put together... But this month is <CENSORED>
[04:06] <DarkwingDuck> anyone seen Mark?
[06:11] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: *nod* sorry to hear that :(
[06:16] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2: Yeah, it sucks so, During that time I'll go stay with my dad about 3 hours away.
[06:25]  * DarkwingDuck rubs eyes
[06:44] <nhaines> DarkwingDuck: pong
[07:23] <grantbow> DarkwingDuck: MarkDude? I think he got a girlfriend.
[19:09] <pleia2> jyo: drat, it is Pangolin
[19:09] <pleia2> Precise Pangolin http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784
[19:14] <MarkDude> lol
[19:15] <MarkDude> pangolin?
[19:15] <pleia2> I looked a couple weeks ago when jyo suggested Pangolin, may be impossible to find a Pangolin stuffed animal ;)
[19:15] <DarkwingDuck> It's a scaley anteater
[19:15] <MarkDude> Fedora called- they said thx for making the likely new name of Beefy Miracle look even better
[19:16] <MarkDude> :D
[19:16] <MarkDude> DarkwingDuck, it is precise also
[19:16] <pleia2> cool, the san diego zoo has a pangolin
[19:16] <MarkDude> precision anteaters
[19:16] <DarkwingDuck> It does?
[19:16] <MarkDude> with scales
[19:16] <pleia2> http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-pangolin.html
[19:16] <DarkwingDuck> I'll have to go check it out.
[19:16] <MarkDude> not rly
[19:17] <pleia2> ack, it's raining /again/
[19:17]  * bkerensa leaves comment on Mark Shuttleworth's Pangolin post
[19:17] <pleia2> san francisco is being weird :(
[19:17] <bkerensa> pleia2: Weird? LOL it rains often in SF
[19:17] <bkerensa> :P
[19:18] <bkerensa> It is October after all
[19:19] <MarkDude> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef17 how horrible are the other names? It is almost like the decided this Miracle thing would keep going- so the figured they should get it over with
[19:19] <MarkDude> Panguipulli ?
[19:20]  * MarkDude hopes that name is not chosen. precise Panguipullian XD
[19:21] <bkerensa> Garmin Operator: I'll transfer you now
[19:27] <jyo> pleia2: YES!
[19:28]  * MarkDude wonders if there is a time when SF is NOT being weird?
[19:28] <MarkDude> THAT would be scary
[19:29] <DarkwingDuck> Should have called it Pika Pikachu
[19:33] <bkerensa> Does anyone know if message templates are possible in Thunderbird?
[19:33] <bkerensa> Due to the volume of e-mail I send and receive it seems like canned messages may be required
[19:35] <jyo> bkerensa: Clippings add-on?
[19:35]  * bkerensa checks
[19:35] <bkerensa> success :)
[19:36] <bkerensa> jyo: Thanks you just saved my poor fingers a lot of typing
[19:37] <MarkDude> Pokemon would have been a good name also
[19:37] <MarkDude> Or maybe... idk, PENGUIN
[19:38] <pleia2> can't actually use a proprietary name ;)
[19:38] <pleia2> and penguin is too obvious
[19:39] <MarkDude> Like using the word LINUX on the Ubuntu site?
[19:39] <MarkDude> :D
[19:39] <bkerensa> LOL
[19:40] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Eucalyptus people are very friendly
[19:40] <bkerensa> :D
[19:51] <jyo> [20:23] <jyo> Wouldn't it be awesome if we got... Pangolin for the next codename?
[19:51] <jyo> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/20/%23ubuntu-us-ca.txt WIN
[19:55] <MarkDude> +1 jyo
[19:59] <pleia2> now it's beautiful and sunny again :)
[20:37] <nhaines> DarkwingDuck: pong
[20:38] <DarkwingDuck> nhaines: I answered my own question. Sorry mate. :)
[20:40] <nhaines> Ah, okay!
[21:00] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2: http://benjaminkerensa.com/2011/07/30/netflix-instant-is-coming-to-the-entire-linux-community/ You read this?
[21:01] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: yes, ages ago
[21:01] <nhaines> Seems to be the same hearsay that's been floating around for the last two or three years.
[21:01] <iheartubuntu> old news :)
[21:02] <iheartubuntu> so as i understand netflix isnt avail to european countries?
[21:02] <nhaines> US, Canada, Brazil, and *maybe* Mexico.
[21:02] <iheartubuntu> i would think that would be a smart move to expand there for at at least online streaming
[21:02] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: yeah, even if you're a US customer abroad
[21:03] <pleia2> (the netflix app for android came out when I was in budapest, such torture :))
[21:03] <iheartubuntu> that sucks
[21:03] <iheartubuntu> to watch on a phone? or tablet?
[21:03] <pleia2> phone
[21:03] <DarkwingDuck> I watch it on my phone and PS3
[21:03] <pleia2> I watch on my television (it came with a netflix app), phone and cr-48
[21:04] <pleia2> all of them use a linux kernel, btw
[21:04] <iheartubuntu> thats funny!
[21:04] <nhaines> It's not really up to Netflix.  Most companies simply refuse to license different territories at once, and of course very territory needs its own licenses.
[21:05] <pleia2> yeah, they've been working to expand coverage but it may not be economically reasonable either
[21:05] <pleia2> countdown banners are finally being updated: https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2011-October/001180.html
[21:05]  * pleia2 was getting pretty grumpy about it
[21:06] <pleia2> just waiting on the switch to be flipped for them to actually update them ;)
[21:06] <nhaines> pleia2: now I just have to decide if I care enough at this point to update my site!
[21:06] <pleia2> nhaines: heh, I just kept them up forever
[21:07] <pleia2> actually, on my blog I don't, but yeah, it's so late that it's just kind of annoying now
[21:07] <nhaines> pleia2: me to.
[21:07] <nhaines> err, too.
[21:07]  * nhaines kills his keyboard.
[21:07] <DarkwingDuck> 8 more days...
[21:17] <iheartubuntu> the 13 year olds banner is pretty nice
[21:17] <iheartubuntu> i jsut started using his
[21:17] <iheartubuntu> (talk about lazy)
[21:17] <nhaines> Corbin had a nice design.
[21:19] <iheartubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/702999/
[21:19] <iheartubuntu> plug that into your site for corbins design
[21:19] <iheartubuntu> did they ever pick a winner?
[21:20] <nhaines> Leszek Pruszyński won.
[21:48] <DarkwingDuck> WOAH! EPIC!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJOz_y9rZE
[21:50] <iheartubuntu> awesome
[21:51] <DarkwingDuck> I want one.
[22:08] <iheartubuntu> how do they do it
[22:08] <iheartubuntu> crazy
[22:46] <DarkwingDuck> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
[22:48] <DarkwingDuck> I just got a phone call from Disney
[22:49] <MarkDude> Dont tell me
[22:49] <MarkDude> Rly?
[22:49] <MarkDude> Did they say what I think you are going to say?
[22:49] <DarkwingDuck> They are asking me to stop using a copyrighted name as my nickname.
[22:49] <DarkwingDuck> and Darkwing is taken.
[22:49] <pleia2> wow, seriously?
[22:50] <DarkwingDuck> Yup
[22:50]  * DarkwingDuck is NOT happy
[22:50] <DarkwingDuck> and Darkwing is taken.
[22:50] <iheartubuntu> as irc nick?
[22:50] <DarkwingDuck> Yes.
[22:50] <iheartubuntu> thats bs
[22:50]  * DarkwingDuck is going to do some research
[22:50] <pleia2> I guess this means disney is officially more evil than lucas ;)
[22:50] <DarkwingDuck> Yup
[22:51] <iheartubuntu> the cost of taking you to court doesnt make any sense
[22:51] <DarkwingDuck> They asked. I don't want to be a pain... But, I'll offer to sell them the domain name darkwingduck.org for 85,000USD :D
[22:52] <iheartubuntu> dont they have anything better to do
[22:53]  * iheartubuntu plays imperial march on floppy discs again
[22:53] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[22:54] <nhaines> Haha, they really asked that?
[22:54] <nhaines> Incidentally, offering to sell a trademarked domain can be used as evidence of profiteering.
[22:55] <MarkDude> Well Lucas has some folks smart enough to know not to screw with the Princess
[22:55] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah.. I wont do that.
[22:55] <rww> DarkwingDuck: Darkwing is droppable, if you want it.
[22:55] <rww> It expired a couple of months ago.
[22:55] <DarkwingDuck> rww: Please?
[22:55] <rww> DarkwingDuck: /nick to it
[22:55] <Darkwing> Yay!
[22:55] <rww> 22:55 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- The account darkwing has been dropped.
[22:56] <Darkwing> I'll need to change my cloak too.
[22:56] <rww> Darkwing: I can sort that out too, once you /msg nickserv help group and /msg nickserv help set accountname
[22:56] <rww> (and I find an IRCC person)
[22:58] <iheartubuntu> "DarkwingDuck is now known as Darkwing'... wish i could slim down in real life that easy
[22:58] <pleia2> I guess this is a bad time for my "I'm going to Disney World!" cheer?
[22:58] <Darkwing> LOL
[23:00] <Darkwing> rww: Darkwing is not the accountname
[23:00] <MarkDude> Is DisneyISevil taken?
[23:00] <rww> Darkwing: /join #ubuntu-irc, highlight topyli saying you want your cloak changed
[23:00] <MarkDude> How about SCREWdisney
[23:02] <iheartubuntu> well, Shuttleworth wont be able to use Darkwing at all for Ubuntu 19.04 thats for sure
[23:08] <rww> I already strongly dislike them for wrecking copyright law, so... ;)
[23:08]  * rww misses stuff going into the public domain ever
[23:09] <pleia2> ack, eaten by wikipedia
[23:09] <pleia2> man, I had the biggest crush on don karnage as a kid
[23:10] <pleia2> and wanted to BE Gadget
[23:10] <Darkwing> GARG!
[23:11] <Darkwing> This name is in my GPG AND my SSH keys
[23:11]  * Darkwing crys
[23:11] <pleia2> heh
[23:11] <rww> lolnicknamesingpg
[23:11] <rww> ssh is trivial to change, you just edit the relevant text in id_rsa.pub, ne?
[23:11] <Darkwing> David (DarkwingDuck) Wonderly
[23:12] <rww> my personal preference for gpg keys is "Whatever's on the ID you're going to be showing me when I keysign" :P
[23:14] <rww> and for people with established pseudonyms, make a key with both on it, I'll sign one based on reputation and relationship and the other based on teh government
[23:15]  * rww spends too much time thinking about this sort of thing
[23:18] <Darkwing> I'm going to just remake a key and not include ANY nick in there.
[23:18] <iheartubuntu> wow its after 4 already. the time just goes so fast!
[23:19] <philipballew> Darkwing, what happened bad?
[23:20] <rww> Darkwing: perhaps-obvious note: generate a revocation certificate for the old key with a description that explains that you're no longer using the key, it wasn't compromised, and that your new key is 0xwhatever
[23:20] <rww> explanation doesn't matter so much since you have no signatures on your old one, but revoking it does.
[23:21] <Darkwing> Aye
[23:22] <rww> and upload it to the keyserver network, ofc
[23:22] <Darkwing> Aye.
[23:43] <MarkDude> And another thing Disney- FU for messing up the whole copyright thing over Mickey rat
[23:43]  * MarkDude had a mickey rat shirt as teen, and was not allowed to enter the park with family while wearing it
[23:44] <MarkDude> All these dudes in matching suits and ear wires to scare me- made me reverse it
[23:44] <MarkDude> Then I walked inside, and turned it around
[23:46] <jyo> Steve Jobs died. Holy crap.
[23:46] <Darkwing> Say What?!
[23:46] <pleia2> yeah :(
[23:46] <pleia2> apple.com
[23:47] <MarkDude> Wow
[23:47] <MarkDude> Methodologies aside- the dude was a real visionary
[23:48] <Darkwing> No kidding.
[23:49] <pleia2> yeah
[23:51] <MarkDude> Hard to think of many people that changed a company as much, and in turn affected society in so many ways
[23:53] <akgraner> MarkDude, +1