seb128hey guys12:32
seb128what infos would be useful for a bug about a touchpad that stops working in the middle for an xorg session?12:33
seb128" if i use the hotkey, when enabling it, I see:12:33
seb128 [  4485.492] (II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: failed to open grail, no gesture support12:33
seb128 [  4485.492] (--) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: touchpad found12:33
seb128 but the touchpad isn't driving the pointer"12:33
seb128"xinput --list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" says12:33
seb128Device Enabled (132): 112:34
jcristauoutput of evtest, xev, check that nothing has a grab on it.12:36
seb128jcristau, thanks12:38
seb128(it's not me having the issue but asking for those infos to be added to the bug)12:38
jcristauthough a grab would probably not stop the pointer from moving12:43
scoundrel50ahi, I have a new laptop, that i have 11.10 installed on, but for the past week, since one of the upgrades, I havent been able to get it to load. It loads the background, and not the gui......can anybody help please?13:18
scoundrel50aOnce the background has loaded, I can get a terminal, but clicking on Ctrl+Alt+F1 and have been updating every day using that.....13:19
scoundrel50aupgrades should read updates13:20
scoundrel50ais there anybody able to help? 13:27
tjaaltonscoundrel50a: does lightdm start from the terminal (sudo start lightdm)13:59
seb128bug #86840014:55
ubot4Launchpad bug 868400 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "Synaptics touchpad stops working (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86840014:55
seb128bryceh, tjaalton, RAOF: ^ could you look at that issue?14:56
seb128the sabdfl get it on different thinkpads and it seems quite often14:56
tjaaltonseb128: I'm off for a few hours, will have a look after if no-one else beats me to it..15:07
seb128tjaalton, no hurry, thanks15:07
scoundrel50atjaalton: sorry had to go out, are you still there?16:22
tjaaltonscoundrel50a: on and off16:23
scoundrel50aok, just entered that command, and something happened, what is supposed to happen16:26
tjaaltonlightdm to start16:26
scoundrel50aoh, not sure what lightdm is, but its stopped at startiong cups 16:27
tjaaltonyou have all the updates in?16:28
scoundrel50aI update everyday using this16:28
scoundrel50ait seems to have stuck16:28
tjaalton"using this"?16:29
scoundrel50ano display has come up16:29
scoundrel50asorry using Ctrl+Alt+F1 for updates16:30
tjaaltonso there's no x behind f7?16:30
scoundrel50aI dont know what that means16:30
tjaaltonvt7, alt-f716:31
scoundrel50awhen I start Ubuntu, it shows the background, but nothing else loads, I will reload, and see what happens, give me a sec16:31
scoundrel50arebooted, and clicked Alt+F7 but nothing happened16:33
tjaaltonwhat gfx hardware does it have?16:34
scoundrel50aits a lenovo 550 laptop16:34
tjaaltonso.. intel?16:35
scoundrel50arebooting again to get the information from the other partition16:36
tjaaltonyou said it worked for a while?16:36
scoundrel50ayeh, it did up till about a week ago, and there was a big update, and it stopped working16:37
scoundrel50aok, got the graphics card info16:37
tjaaltonlspci would've been enough16:37
tjaaltoninstall pastebinit, then run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'16:38
scoundrel50aits a Pentium (R) Dual Core CPUwith Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE216:38
scoundrel50ahow would I send it to use, just using the terminal16:38
scoundrel50abecause I am using a different laptop to talk to you16:39
scoundrel50aI can get in using Ubuntu 2d16:39
scoundrel50awould that work?16:39
tjaaltonso, in other words X is running just fine16:39
scoundrel50aUbuntu doesnt work, but 2D does16:39
tjaaltonyou're on the wrong channel then16:40
scoundrel50aI am talking abotu 11.1016:40
tjaaltonthis is about X16:40
tjaaltontry #ubuntu+116:40
tjaaltonyour personal unity session is somehow broken16:40
tjaaltonnothing to do with X16:40
scoundrel50aoh, sorry, didnt know, will try that, thanks for the help16:41
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seb128jcristau, tjaalton, bryceh: 17:17
seb128<sabdfl> seb128, evtest says:17:17
seb128<sabdfl>   This device is grabbed by another process.17:17
seb128   No events are available to evtest while the17:17
seb128   other grab is active.17:17
seb128   In most cases, this is caused by an X driver,17:17
seb128   try VT-switching and re-run evtest again.17:17
seb128is there any way to tell what is having the grab?17:17
tjaaltonthat needs to be run from a vt17:18
seb128it works under x for me17:18
tjaaltonit does?17:18
seb128tjaalton, yes17:18
seb128tjaalton, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/702862/17:19
seb128and it reacts to events by displaying those17:19
tjaaltonoh, news to me. didn't use to work in the past17:20
seb128tjaalton, well, still, any way to see what process is grabbing the device? ;-)17:20
tjaaltonx220 tablet has a multitouch panel on it, and the touchpad17:22
seb128tjaalton, if that's unity killing the process should restore the device right?17:28
tjaaltonseb128: hopefully yes17:28
seb128tjaalton, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/82023565/xinput.txt is his xinput17:28
seb128⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                   id=14[slave  pointer  (2)]17:28
seb128⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              id=11[slave  pointer  (2)]17:28
tjaaltondoes the trackpoint work?17:34
tjaaltoni don't see any other failure than some X client grabbing it. apparently evtest from a vt would work17:36
jcristauthe synaptics driver still grabs the device by default iirc?17:37
jcristau(evdev doesn't)17:37
tjaaltonah ok17:37
tjaaltoni'll test on mine17:37
jcristauhaven't checked in a while though17:37
tjaaltonoh, the output says that too17:40
tjaalton"in most cases..."17:40
tjaaltonseb128: so, please ask him to test it on a vt17:44
tjaaltonseb128: evtest that is17:44
brycehtjaalton, hey noticed you dropped POT building from xkeyboard-config's rules, however #868554 suggests the POT building logic is still needed.18:32
brycehtjaalton, were there other reasons for dropping it?  If not, mind if I re-add it?18:36
tjaaltonbryceh: i'll check in a minute18:39
tjaaltonbryceh: ok, sorry about that. there should be a way to clean up afterwards though, trying to figure it out18:50
tjaaltonthe old rule shows as a diff in git and diff.gz18:50
tjaaltonumm, the result of the rule, rather18:51
tjaaltonbryceh: i'll handle the bug, need to understand how the pot-magic with lp works anyway19:14
brycehtjaalton, ok great19:19
tjaaltonbryceh: ok I think it works better now, just need to figure out how to push it from this laptop :)19:47
brycehtjaalton, awesome19:48
brycehheh, "Precise Pangolin"19:48
brycehwhat the hell is a Pangolin?19:49
tjaaltonthe english name didn't say anything, but I know the creature :)19:49
tjaaltonas presented by sir david attenborough on the tv19:50
brycehPerky Penguin would have been better19:50
tjaalton"ant(pine)cone" in finnish19:51
tjaaltonbryceh: check the commit to xkb-data, seem sane to you? :)20:29
brycehtjaalton, looks good20:31
tjaaltonalright, time to upload20:34
brycehand time for some lunch.. bbiab20:34
bdmurraycnd: what 2 finger touches should be available / work?22:12
RAOFI don't believe there are any 2-finger gestures in geis/unity.22:13
bdmurraywell something in firefox makes it zoom in / out22:13
RAOFSo, synaptics should be providing a right click on 2 finger tap, and a scroll for two-finger drag.22:13
Sarvattbdmurray: about:config, search for browser.gesture.pinch. and disable?22:14
bdmurraySarvatt: my question was what other things can I do with my 2 fingers22:15
bdmurrayabout:config is neat though and shows some stuff22:17
Sarvattnote: i dont even know if that stuff works, was a long shot :)22:18
RAOFYeah - Firefox won't have multitouch integration yet, surely?22:18
* bryceh waves to RAOF 22:20
RAOFGood morning bryce :)22:20
brycehbdmurray, hey you may  have already noticed, but I stuck in a greasemonkey script which makes the launchpad OOPS id's into hyperlinks to the +filebug page (with the oops id)22:21
bdmurraybryceh: I didn't look closely but that sounds like fun22:22
brycehbdmurray, and I tested out your changes to buttontags, nice... works more quickly22:22
bdmurraybryceh: oh yeah that was pretty slick it uses the lp api via javascript22:22
bdmurraybryceh: the only chagne I saw / see was send_upstream22:23
bdmurrayand a message about revisions being removed22:24
brycehah, stuck it in my branch not the trunk, one sec22:25
bdmurraybryceh: Did some revisions disappear because I'm on 17122:25
brycehbdmurray, probably just bzr's merge wonkiness at work22:26
brycehbdmurray, maybe try cloning a copy of the tree and doublechecking?22:27
bdmurraywell I see my last change still in code browse so it seems fine22:28
RAOFOk.  Who just killed my X server?22:37
RAOFAh, CloseDownClient, my old nemesis.22:38

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