[12:32] hey guys [12:33] what infos would be useful for a bug about a touchpad that stops working in the middle for an xorg session? [12:33] " if i use the hotkey, when enabling it, I see: [12:33] [ 4485.492] (II) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: failed to open grail, no gesture support [12:33] [ 4485.492] (--) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: touchpad found [12:33] but the touchpad isn't driving the pointer" [12:33] "xinput --list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" says [12:34] Device Enabled (132): 1 [12:36] output of evtest, xev, check that nothing has a grab on it. [12:38] jcristau, thanks [12:38] (it's not me having the issue but asking for those infos to be added to the bug) [12:43] though a grab would probably not stop the pointer from moving [13:18] hi, I have a new laptop, that i have 11.10 installed on, but for the past week, since one of the upgrades, I havent been able to get it to load. It loads the background, and not the gui......can anybody help please? [13:19] Once the background has loaded, I can get a terminal, but clicking on Ctrl+Alt+F1 and have been updating every day using that..... [13:20] upgrades should read updates [13:27] is there anybody able to help? [13:54] hello? [13:59] scoundrel50a: does lightdm start from the terminal (sudo start lightdm) [14:55] bug #868400 [14:55] Launchpad bug 868400 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "Synaptics touchpad stops working (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868400 [14:56] bryceh, tjaalton, RAOF: ^ could you look at that issue? [14:56] the sabdfl get it on different thinkpads and it seems quite often [15:07] seb128: I'm off for a few hours, will have a look after if no-one else beats me to it.. [15:07] tjaalton, no hurry, thanks [16:22] tjaalton: sorry had to go out, are you still there? [16:23] scoundrel50a: on and off [16:26] ok, just entered that command, and something happened, what is supposed to happen [16:26] lightdm to start [16:27] oh, not sure what lightdm is, but its stopped at startiong cups [16:28] you have all the updates in? [16:28] I update everyday using this [16:28] it seems to have stuck [16:29] "using this"? [16:29] yes [16:29] no display has come up [16:30] sorry using Ctrl+Alt+F1 for updates [16:30] so there's no x behind f7? [16:30] I dont know what that means [16:31] vt7, alt-f7 [16:31] when I start Ubuntu, it shows the background, but nothing else loads, I will reload, and see what happens, give me a sec [16:33] rebooted, and clicked Alt+F7 but nothing happened [16:34] what gfx hardware does it have? [16:34] its a lenovo 550 laptop [16:35] so.. intel? [16:35] yes [16:36] rebooting again to get the information from the other partition [16:36] you said it worked for a while? [16:37] yeh, it did up till about a week ago, and there was a big update, and it stopped working [16:37] ok, got the graphics card info [16:37] lspci would've been enough [16:38] install pastebinit, then run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log' [16:38] its a Pentium (R) Dual Core CPUwith Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2 [16:38] how would I send it to use, just using the terminal [16:39] because I am using a different laptop to talk to you [16:39] I can get in using Ubuntu 2d [16:39] would that work? [16:39] uh [16:39] so, in other words X is running just fine [16:39] Ubuntu doesnt work, but 2D does [16:40] you're on the wrong channel then [16:40] no [16:40] yes [16:40] I am talking abotu 11.10 [16:40] this is about X [16:40] try #ubuntu+1 [16:40] your personal unity session is somehow broken [16:40] nothing to do with X [16:41] oh, sorry, didnt know, will try that, thanks for the help === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:17] jcristau, tjaalton, bryceh: [17:17] seb128, evtest says: [17:17] This device is grabbed by another process. [17:17] No events are available to evtest while the [17:17] other grab is active. [17:17] In most cases, this is caused by an X driver, [17:17] try VT-switching and re-run evtest again. [17:17] is there any way to tell what is having the grab? [17:18] that needs to be run from a vt [17:18] why? [17:18] it works under x for me [17:18] it does? [17:18] tjaalton, yes [17:19] tjaalton, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/702862/ [17:19] and it reacts to events by displaying those [17:20] oh, news to me. didn't use to work in the past [17:20] tjaalton, well, still, any way to see what process is grabbing the device? ;-) [17:21] unity?-) [17:22] x220 tablet has a multitouch panel on it, and the touchpad [17:28] tjaalton, if that's unity killing the process should restore the device right? [17:28] seb128: hopefully yes [17:28] tjaalton, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/82023565/xinput.txt is his xinput [17:28] ⎜ ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint id=14 [slave pointer (2)] [17:28] ⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=11 [slave pointer (2)] [17:34] yes [17:34] does the trackpoint work? [17:36] i don't see any other failure than some X client grabbing it. apparently evtest from a vt would work [17:37] the synaptics driver still grabs the device by default iirc? [17:37] (evdev doesn't) [17:37] ah ok [17:37] i'll test on mine [17:37] haven't checked in a while though [17:40] oh, the output says that too [17:40] "in most cases..." [17:44] seb128: so, please ask him to test it on a vt [17:44] seb128: evtest that is [18:32] tjaalton, hey noticed you dropped POT building from xkeyboard-config's rules, however #868554 suggests the POT building logic is still needed. [18:36] tjaalton, were there other reasons for dropping it? If not, mind if I re-add it? [18:39] bryceh: i'll check in a minute [18:50] bryceh: ok, sorry about that. there should be a way to clean up afterwards though, trying to figure it out [18:50] the old rule shows as a diff in git and diff.gz [18:51] ah [18:51] umm, the result of the rule, rather [19:14] bryceh: i'll handle the bug, need to understand how the pot-magic with lp works anyway [19:19] tjaalton, ok great [19:47] bryceh: ok I think it works better now, just need to figure out how to push it from this laptop :) [19:48] tjaalton, awesome [19:48] heh, "Precise Pangolin" [19:49] what the hell is a Pangolin? [19:49] the english name didn't say anything, but I know the creature :) [19:50] as presented by sir david attenborough on the tv [19:50] Perky Penguin would have been better [19:51] "ant(pine)cone" in finnish [19:56] hehe [20:29] bryceh: check the commit to xkb-data, seem sane to you? :) [20:31] tjaalton, looks good [20:34] alright, time to upload [20:34] and time for some lunch.. bbiab [22:12] cnd: what 2 finger touches should be available / work? [22:13] I don't believe there are any 2-finger gestures in geis/unity. [22:13] well something in firefox makes it zoom in / out [22:13] So, synaptics should be providing a right click on 2 finger tap, and a scroll for two-finger drag. [22:14] bdmurray: about:config, search for browser.gesture.pinch. and disable? [22:15] Sarvatt: my question was what other things can I do with my 2 fingers [22:17] about:config is neat though and shows some stuff [22:18] note: i dont even know if that stuff works, was a long shot :) [22:18] Yeah - Firefox won't have multitouch integration yet, surely? [22:20] * bryceh waves to RAOF [22:20] Good morning bryce :) [22:21] bdmurray, hey you may have already noticed, but I stuck in a greasemonkey script which makes the launchpad OOPS id's into hyperlinks to the +filebug page (with the oops id) [22:22] bryceh: I didn't look closely but that sounds like fun [22:22] bdmurray, and I tested out your changes to buttontags, nice... works more quickly [22:22] bryceh: oh yeah that was pretty slick it uses the lp api via javascript [22:23] bryceh: the only chagne I saw / see was send_upstream [22:24] and a message about revisions being removed [22:25] ah, stuck it in my branch not the trunk, one sec [22:25] bryceh: Did some revisions disappear because I'm on 171 [22:26] bdmurray, probably just bzr's merge wonkiness at work [22:27] bdmurray, maybe try cloning a copy of the tree and doublechecking? [22:28] well I see my last change still in code browse so it seems fine [22:37] Ok. Who just killed my X server? [22:38] Ah, CloseDownClient, my old nemesis.