[00:00] <Logan_> !screenshot | rickyrich
[00:00] <Logan_> Er.
[00:00] <Logan_> Macs don't have that
[00:00] <Logan_> Or do they?
[00:00] <rickyrich> Logan_: no there isn't i know the normal way but in the mac keyboard there isn't
[00:01] <Logan_> rickyrich: System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts; you can change the key combination there.
[00:01] <guerrero> hello can some one help me? its a problem that ubuntu caused with my windows...
[00:01] <rickyrich> Logan_: ok i will check it
[00:01] <Logan_> !noq >guerrero
[00:01] <Logan_> er
[00:01] <Logan_> !ask | guerrero
[00:02] <noisewaterphd> Logan_, rickyrich: I remember my trackpad on my macbook working out of the box, but it worked a lot differently than it did in mac OS, I believe I downloaded something, and that something made my trackpad behave like it did on Mac
[00:02] <OomElvis> Q: guys... i have ubuntu 11.04 and have probs connecting to a hidden wireless network. i go "connect to hidden network", it tries to connect (and i can see it in the network manager - 2 bars signal) .... but it just shows the busy icon.. and it eventually cnat connect. but in windows it works - any ideas?
[00:03] <rickyrich> noisewaterphd: well the experience with the touchpad in mac os in unbelievable and here is not the same
[00:03] <guerrero> i installed ubuntu and since that mi window 7 always does the disk c check.but yesterday it had an error and it said it was fixing it and now i boot windows 7 and after window 7 logo i just see the cursor.no login or welcome screen.and when i boot ubuntu it always say fixing ubnutu cause it wasnt closed correctly something like that
[00:04] <alhubaishi> guerrero, have u installed ubuntu inside windows operating system or u have made a new partition separated from windows
[00:04] <ninwa> guerrero, It sounds like your HDD is failing.
[00:04] <excelsior> so I'm selling a Ipad2 16 GB 3G (ATT) unopened for $600, am I being ripped off?
[00:04] <guerrero> and when i boot up safe mode does the same thing.just white curser.and i cant doe no cntr alt del.no nothing
[00:05] <guerrero> mi hdd cant be failing cause i have ubuntu installed inside windows and its working right not im in here from there
[00:05] <Lasers> excelsior: Have you looked inside?
[00:06] <Logan_> !ot | excelsior
[00:06] <Lasers> excelsior: And it's more of a question for #macosx
[00:06] <ninwa> guerrero, Are you able to check the SMART status of the drive?
[00:06] <alhubaishi> guerrero, so now ur booted in ubuntu to come here bro?
[00:07] <guerrero> yes i have ubuntu and its the only thing that boots up so here am i
[00:07] <guerrero> how can i check the smart status of the drie?
[00:07] <guerrero> the last thing i did was use the start up manager repair something like that
[00:08] <ninwa> guerrero, run the Disk Utility.
[00:08] <rickyrich> Logan_: ok i have change with f4 the key for screenshot
[00:08] <Logan_> rickyrich: Cool.
[00:08] <ninwa> guerrero, hit the super key and type disk, it should show up in the list.
[00:08] <The_Creator> How do I Alt-Tab through windows on only the active workspace on 11.10?
[00:08] <noisewaterphd> guerrero: so you are at least abel to attempt to boot windows?
[00:09] <alhubaishi> its good to see Linux survived in ur windows since windows faulted
[00:09] <ninwa> noisewaterphd, ye said yes, he gets a cursor but nothing else, after checkdisk was prompted to run
[00:09] <ninwa> he*
[00:09] <noisewaterphd> oh
[00:09] <noisewaterphd> not good then
[00:09] <guerrero> yes it boots when the window seven does the liil boot thingy that it forms the window 7 flag there it goes black and i just see white curser
[00:09] <simon_g> http://www.wklej.org/id/603370/ hm... how can i check that something is using freshly created /dev/sda1 and sdb1 :?
[00:09] <Logan_> !ubuntu+1 | The_Creator
[00:09] <alhubaishi> The_Creator,  #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 questions
[00:09] <The_Creator> Thanks
[00:09] <guerrero> it usually does that black then white curser than it goes blue with the logon asking password.
[00:10] <simon_g> i tried to manually create mirrored array, /dev/md0
[00:11] <rickyrich> Logan_: now i'm using my macbookpro with 6gb ddr3 @ 1333 mhz with hdd 640 gb and triple boot win7 x64 lion osx 10.7.1 and ubuntu 11.04
[00:11] <Logan_> Okay.
[00:11] <alhubaishi> guerrero, ur windows has virus or something ? possibly glitches , malware , before this incident happened , was ur computer pretty slow? or did this incident happen since u installed ubuntu.. doesnt make sense if it is
[00:12] <guerrero> since i installed ubuntu.
[00:12] <guerrero> its like ubuntu caused an error on my w7... im experienced on fixing computers and mi window 7 was runing great i run it with 8gb ram
[00:12] <ninwa> guerrero, Were you able to run the Disk Utility and check the SMART status of the drive?
[00:13] <guerrero> i am on disk utility where do i check the smart status?
[00:13] <Cheapshot> Someone point me to the right direction. I want search and read txt from website via terminal using keywords. Example i know a certain word from a website and want to print some of the txt under it to the terminal.
[00:13] <ninwa> On the left side it will show a list of controllers and attached devices, look for your hard drive (something like 1.0 TB Hard Disk or similar) and click on it.
[00:13] <noisewaterphd> guerrero: if the drive is in fact not going bad, then you need Windows help. Not that you wont get help here, just that this is a linux channel, and at least I personally don't know the first thing about windows
[00:13] <ninwa> Then, on the right, you will see a label "SMART Status: ..." and it will have an indicator.
[00:14] <guerrero> check and confirmed disk is healthy my 320gb hdd
[00:14] <ninwa> guerrero, In that case this channel can't help much more, as noisewaterphd said.
[00:14] <rickyrich> Logan_: do you know how to setuo the effect of the windows while i move them?
[00:14] <rickyrich> setup*
[00:14] <hydester> years ago i used cups-pdf.  since natty i have been using the "Print to file", which i  believe comes from Gnome.  i like the cups-pdf automatic file naming, although it seems that cups-pdf files are images and not text.  the "print to file" is PDF text, which is nice.  but it is a pain always having to type in the filename.  any way to have it guess based off of its input, like cups-pdf does?
[00:14] <noisewaterphd> guerrero: have you tried booting from your windows install disc and attemting whatever repair mode it may have?
[00:15] <th0r1> Cheapshot: if you just want to copy something to the command line, highlight it in the browser, click on the terminal, then press the middle button
[00:15] <P-Chan> help! my ubuntu is crazy! Metacity not work!!!
[00:15] <guerrero> yes i try to repair but it says that my windows is perfect...
[00:15] <P-Chan> nohup metacity --replace &   not work
[00:15] <P-Chan> metacity --replace &   too
[00:16] <guerrero> i cant eaven boot safe mode.thaty is windows always booting way...
[00:16] <alhubaishi> guerrero, it cant be from linux the issue , u installed it in windows , it acts like a software , similar to ur firefox in ur add / remove programs , the extra drive for the ubuntu which is given is in a branch directory , doesnt effect windows
[00:16] <ninwa> guerrero, I would recommend attempting to boot safe mode and to turn off all windows services and startup applications. I would also recommend running a anti-malware software (perhaps MBAM) and perhaps you might even want to run ComboFix. If you cannot boot safe-mode, then reload the machine.
[00:16] <P-Chan> my ubuntu is lucid lynx
[00:17] <ninwa> I would also check to see if your memory was bad. Although it's odd you aren't having problems in Ubuntu, it is possible that it's coincidence. You can run memtest from the Ubuntu CD.
[00:17] <excelsior> !passiveagressive | Logan
[00:17] <Cheapshot> th0r1: No im looking to do it all from terminal. So I could fetch the specific part of the site with just a line of command or maybe a script.
[00:17] <Logan_> o_O
[00:17] <guerrero> i can reload the machin 20 times and it wil just boot safe mode or normal do the logo thingy and then go black screen and just show normal mouse curser
[00:18] <excelsior> lol
[00:18] <rickyrich> Logan_: i found it it was compiz config manager thanks anyway
[00:18] <P-Chan> I solved my problem
[00:18] <Logan_> rickyrich: Okay, sounds good.
[00:18] <ninwa> guerrero, then perhaps there is something wrong with your installation media, either way, this is not an Ubuntu issue anymore.
[00:19] <guerrero> its that when i installed ubnutu it said i had to run startp manager and it said that it fixed my startup and wat it did was fu** it up :((
[00:20] <guerrero> thanks for the help tho.ill just keep googling
[00:20] <alhubaishi> guerrero, its hard to resolve issues the best doctor is a doctor of himself , u know ur computer , if it was infected with a virus or not , or malware , or something , try to repair windows 7 with windows 7 cd , if u think its virus download windows utility tools that can check and detect if ur system is compromised or any other factor with a solution of a fix.
[00:20] <guerrero> any other channal that can help me?
[00:21] <Dori922> hey! if i send some .mp3 files from windows pc to ubuntu do they keep they're .mp3 extension?
[00:21] <SIFTU> Dori922: yes
[00:21] <Dori922> SIFTU: ty :)
[00:21] <alhubaishi> ubuntu doesnt ask u to do stuff in windows like change ur reg or start up manager from ur msconfig , and dont play with msconfig , follow blackviper guide if u want to tweak ur windows www.blackviper.com
[00:22] <alhubaishi> GOD give us power please
[00:23] <guerrero> thanks :D
[00:27] <a_cuttlefish> hi all; not sure if this is the correct place to ask, but does anyone have a method for extracting jpegs from an online flv presentation?
[00:28] <alhubaishi> download the flv
[00:28] <alhubaishi> then edit with movie maker like app
[00:28] <a_cuttlefish> how do i pass data to it? it's a map viewer.
[00:28] <a_cuttlefish> it's not a movie.
[00:29] <alhubaishi> its .avi .flv . mpg they are all similar a_cuttlefish
[00:30] <meomic> hey, does anyone know if ubuntu is planning to make auto-versioning whole /etc dir? - only config files are there - would be nice
[00:30] <a_cuttlefish> it's not a video stream
[00:30] <a_cuttlefish> that's my problem
[00:31] <alhubaishi> use firefox with addon downthemall and videodownload helper , do u get the logo over the logo over that flash video ? if yes u can download and convert it to .avi then extract with ur method if u cant do it with .flv
[00:31] <a_cuttlefish> alhubaishi: it's not a video.
[00:32] <alhubaishi> give me link
[00:32] <a_cuttlefish> http://www.mapjack.com/
[00:32] <SIFTU> a_cuttlefish: you mean extracting pcis from a flash application.. never done that. what about just screenshots?
[00:32] <alhubaishi> im in 11.10 and im beta testing with laziness
[00:32] <a_cuttlefish> SIFTU: that's what i've been doing, but as you can imagine, it takes a really, really long time.
[00:32] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: what do you need the images for? would a screenshot do the trick?
[00:33] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: oh nevermind, beat me to it
[00:33] <a_cuttlefish> noisewaterphd: they kinda would, but i need the images perspective-corrected
[00:33] <a_cuttlefish> i'm building a virtual copy of a city.
[00:33] <SIFTU> a_cuttlefish: you could script it pretty easy.. like when you press a key it takes the shot and names it
[00:33] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: anyway, without the source .fla I don't know of any other way to go about it
[00:34] <i12> hey my people, Im having an issue with windows shares (samba) and ubuntu 11.10
[00:34] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: actually, can you use a converter of some kind and convert it to a sequence of jpegs, then go through and find the ones you need?
[00:34] <a_cuttlefish> noisewaterphd: i need to pass location data to the flv in order for it to ask the host server for the correct images. should i be looking into packet forming?
[00:34] <i12> I cannot seem to get the samba config started, its just not kicking in
[00:35] <a_cuttlefish> noisewaterphd: that's what i was thinking; something akin to the way curl can ask for a sequential range of urls
[00:35] <genii-around> i12: Does: testparm      give any clues?
[00:35] <i12> testpram is the one that should check my configs right?
[00:35] <genii-around> i12: Yes. testparm
[00:36] <genii-around> Not pram ;)
[00:36] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: oh, so you dont even have the file locally, ya, I'm afraid you're stuck with screenshots, unless there is enough of them that it really would save you time to automate it in scripting lang of your choice
[00:36] <i12> lol
[00:36] <i12> thats why it wasnt testpraming
[00:37] <i12> so yeah unable to open config file, no such file or directory
[00:37] <SIFTU> a_cuttlefish: what about screen recording, then splitting it up into images (thousands of them :)
[00:37] <a_cuttlefish> noisewaterphd: well, i can get the file locally, but that doesn't help anything
[00:37] <a_cuttlefish> SIFTU: oh, then just pass it through ffmpeg and keep every nth frame or something like that?
[00:37] <a_cuttlefish> that's a really good idea
[00:37] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: right, cause it needs data
[00:38] <SIFTU> a_cuttlefish: yes
[00:38] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: script it or continue on with your evening of screenshots
[00:38] <i12> so if I touch smb.conf
[00:38] <SIFTU> a_cuttlefish: there is a youtube on it
[00:38] <alhubaishi> a_cuttlefish, have u tried swish
[00:38] <i12> should I reinstall samba?
[00:38] <a_cuttlefish> noisewaterphd: i'm wondering how hard it would be to write my own javascript for this
[00:38] <a_cuttlefish> swish? no, i haven't. give me a sec to look it up.
[00:39] <i12> genii-around: looks like smb.conf was missing
[00:39] <genii-around> i12: Ah, I scrolled up and see your earlier stuff. If the shares are on a win box and accessing from Ubuntu, then mostly you just need smbfs, and not full samba unless you want shares on the Ubuntu box the Windows ones can also access.
[00:39] <SetiAmon> what are files that end in .run
[00:39] <i12> genii-around: yep choice number 1 for the most part, there is also a printer that would be sweet if I could share
[00:40] <SIFTU> SetiAmon: usually scripts.. type "file <filename>" and it will tell you
[00:40] <alhubaishi> mm
[00:40] <SetiAmon> i mean they are old style binary or something right
[00:40] <i12> genii-around: I can browse to the network folder, but I cannot get access once Im there, I know the user name and pass, so I think I just need to find the right place to put it
[00:41] <genii-around> i12: Well, testparm results of no smb.conf is fine without samba installed. To just use the Windows shares, make sure package smbfs is on. Then you can try by putting in Nautilus smb://ip-or-network-name-of-win-box/share-name
[00:41] <SIFTU> SetiAmon: what does file say.. it could be anything .run doesnt actually mean anything, could be a bin or a script
[00:41] <baktrak> Can anyone help me?. i go to synpatic and go to linux headers because i wanna install a new kernel.. and i download the kernel<whatversion i want>.gearnic or w.e and wont install new kernel?
[00:41] <a_cuttlefish> ...can swish open compiled flv's?
[00:42] <alhubaishi> last i used it was at 1999
[00:42] <i12> genii-around: would samba provide a way to visually manage the connections though?
[00:42] <alhubaishi> dno :,<
[00:43] <alhubaishi> if theyr updated to this generaion  im sure it can
[00:43] <genii-around> i12: Not really. There are separate gui frontends to samba though. At any rate, currently, I would suggest checking how the shares are set up on Windows side. You may need to login with different username than the Ubuntu box is trying by default
[00:44] <luis_> trying to uninstall netbeans 7.0.1  I used   sudo /usr/local/netbeans-7.0/uninstall.sh   and it says:    sudo: /usr/local/netbeans-7.0/uninstall.sh: command not found
[00:47] <bfrederi> Hi, I'm using 11.04, and my wireless networking is working fine, but my wired connection isn't even showing up when I do an ifconfig. I can't connect at all with the wired connection.
[00:48] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: if I were you, depending on how many there were to do, I would automate the whole process with python, or java using xuggler. but I'm a developer
[00:48] <i12> Ubuntu is so awesome, its just finding the answers that is a little weird
[00:48] <a_cuttlefish> noisewaterphd: i'm looking into their javascript at the moment
[00:48] <a_cuttlefish> noisewaterphd: great minds, etc.
[00:48] <Milossh> how do I use cp with directories?
[00:49] <i12> genii-around: Thanks so much dude! I totally got it
[00:49] <bfrederi> Milossh, cp -r
[00:49] <noisewaterphd> cp -r
[00:49] <i12> any hints on how to share the printer?
[00:49] <i12> cp -r
[00:49] <i12>  :D
[00:49] <genii-around> i12: You're welcome!
[00:49] <Milossh> thanks
[00:49] <Milossh> and is there cp parameter equivalent of mkdir -p ?
[00:49] <genii-around> i12: The printer attached to the Ubuntu box to share to Win clients?
[00:50] <qin> Milossh: -p create parent
[00:50] <i12> genii-around: yep
[00:50] <noisewaterphd> Milossh: I dont understand how that relates to copy
[00:50] <Milossh> noisewaterphd, I want to copy to a folder that doesn't exist, and I want to create it along the cp
[00:51] <a_cuttlefish> touch?
[00:51] <Milossh> so, cp /my/dir /my/new/dir
[00:51] <Milossh> and new doesn't exist
[00:51] <Milossh> can I do that with an parameter so that cp invokes mkdir/
[00:51] <a_cuttlefish> mkdir /my/new && cp /my/dir /my/new/dir
[00:51] <JonSh> why is wireless such a pain in the ass to configure
[00:52] <a_cuttlefish> JonSh: it's wireless.
[00:52] <a_cuttlefish> that's just how it is.
[00:52] <Milossh> because vendors don't care much about floss
[00:52] <celestius> quick cron q: can i do * * * * */5 or do i need to do * * * 0 */5 ?
[00:52] <a_cuttlefish> noisewaterphd: what do you develop?
[00:52] <celestius> i don't actually care when it runs, as long as it's every five mins
[00:53] <SIFTU> celestius: */5 * * * *
[00:53] <noisewaterphd> Milossh: cp doesnt have such a thing, need to different commands, or write your own quick script if you need
[00:53] <celestius> ah ha :) ty SIFTU
[00:53] <i12> genii-around: Im thinking that it might be a windows thing, Thanks again. Im out!
[00:53] <SIFTU> celestius: first param is minutes
[00:54] <celestius> gotchya. ya. that might've been bad
[00:54] <jhaddad> i only installed the server components of ubuntu.  i'd like to install all the nice gui stuff now too.  what's the easiest way to do that?
[00:54] <MrSassyPants> hey I'm thinking about switching to ubuntu lts for my home server and I wonder what the real life difference between using the 32bit or 64bit version would be
[00:54] <noisewaterphd> a_cuttlefish: I'm currently paid to write java, but I use multiple languages
[00:55] <nasuta-work> test
[00:55] <SIFTU> MrSassyPants: mainly memory size, although 32 bit has a PAE kenerl anyway. so if you have 4Gb or more it is recommended 64 bit
[00:55] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: use 64bit
[00:55] <MrSassyPants> SIFTU, I don't see memory as a problem
[00:55] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, why?
[00:56] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: the better question is really why not
[00:56] <nasuta-work> i dont find the internet explorer, where is it?!
[00:56] <SIFTU> MrSassyPants: how much ram do you have?
[00:56] <nasuta-work> please help
[00:56] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, some stuff might not be available for 64bit, or 64bit may give other compatibility problem. I mean, are there even advantages?
[00:56] <noisewaterphd> nasuta-work: firefox is your default browser
[00:57] <a_cuttlefish> MrSassyPants: being able to address more than 3gb of ram
[00:57] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, my #1 pro-64bit argument on the server is "I won't be getting 64bit on my desktop any time soon"
[00:57] <MrSassyPants> a_cuttlefish, irrelevant
[00:57] <Grecoo> Hi!
[00:57] <a_cuttlefish> MrSassyPants: you're not planning on ever having 4gb of ram?
[00:57] <a_cuttlefish> or even 3.5?
[00:57] <SIFTU> MrSassyPants: then if you have a small amount of RAM go 32 bit
[00:58] <MrSassyPants> a_cuttlefish, currently no, and even if I did - all programs that actually make use of more than 4gigs of ram can do that in 32bit too
[00:58] <JonSh> which linux distro is best for kernel ahcking
[00:58] <Grecoo> do someone have the Theft Deferrent Agent for linux?
[00:58] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: plenty of advantages, you wont find anything you can't use. you can install 32 bit programs on 64 bit just fine anyway
[00:58] <Grecoo> (backtrack?)
[00:58] <a_cuttlefish> i'm missing something here...
[00:58] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, ominous advantages that no one cares to explain :p
[00:59] <MrSassyPants> a_cuttlefish, 32bit can handle 4+ gigs just fine
[00:59] <SIFTU> MrSassyPants: using PAE kernel, which has a slight overhead
[00:59] <prometheanfire> I've noticed a problem with ubuntu happens by default for ubuntu installs for me for some reason, the network gets REALLY slow
[00:59] <prometheanfire> my connection is fine in any other OS
[00:59] <prometheanfire> or distro
[00:59] <MrSassyPants> SIFTU, onoes, and 64bit addressing has overhead to
[00:59] <MrSassyPants> too*
[00:59] <datakid> in a trouble shooting effort I did an apt-get remove that failed. Now that I have apt working again, I don't want the package removed. How can I tell apt to not remove that package?
[01:00] <SIFTU> MrSassyPants: not a performance overhead
[01:00] <MrSassyPants> SIFTU, actually, in more ways than one
[01:00] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: besides the obvious answers, one good reason is simply to be thinking forward
[01:00] <prometheanfire> 64bit performes better then PAE does
[01:00] <SIFTU> prometheanfire: yes thats true
[01:00] <prometheanfire> isn't ubuntu multilib anyway?
[01:00] <MrSassyPants> prometheanfire, maybe so, except for when it doesnt
[01:00] <a_cuttlefish> oh good lord, i am completely retarded, just remembered that firebug captures GET requests
[01:01] <a_cuttlefish> lol
[01:01] <pooltable> what do  i need to do to update flash to version 11???
[01:01] <MrSassyPants> prometheanfire, I've seen a lot of packages and applications marked unavailable for 64bit
[01:01] <a_cuttlefish> thanks to everyone for their help anyway =D
[01:01] <prometheanfire> MrSassyPants: use gentoo :D
[01:01] <a_cuttlefish> hi /g/
[01:01] <MrSassyPants> prometheanfire, actually I'm gettint rid of gentoo
[01:01] <MrSassyPants> getting*
[01:01] <nasuta-work> crux linux is better
[01:01] <genii-around> datakid: Probably like: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[01:01] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: then you install the 32 bit compat libraries and install them anyway with --force-architecture
[01:01] <nasuta-work> or arch linux
[01:01] <datakid> genii-around, tx
[01:01] <SIFTU> MrSassyPants: lots?? or just precompiled 3rd party blobs?
[01:01] <prometheanfire> anyway, I can't for the life of me figure out why I can't get ubuntu to go over 10kbps
[01:02] <MrSassyPants> SIFTU, the 3rd party blobs are generally vital
[01:02] <pooltable> what do  i need to do to update flash to version 11???
[01:02] <prometheanfire> MrSassyPants: heh, I'm about to become a gentoo dev :D
[01:02] <MrSassyPants> SIFTU, whatcha do without flash and nvidia-drivers?
[01:02] <SIFTU> MrSassyPants: there are 64 versions of both of those
[01:02] <MrSassyPants> prometheanfire, my take on gentoo is that it is now run by microsoft, trying to give linux a bad rep
[01:02] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: the way I do it is find out if you REALLY have any reason that you must have 32 bit, if you don't, then 64 bit.
[01:03] <prometheanfire> MrSassyPants: well, given that the council doesn't have a say in technical maters....
[01:03] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, that's really the "why the hell not" argument
[01:03] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: I run a 64bit linux desktop and I have both 64bit flash and the nvidia drivers
[01:03] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, not the point
[01:03] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: and that is the only argument
[01:03] <prometheanfire> anyway, I just wish ubuntu could actually do networking sanely
[01:03] <Shatters> Hey, I want to install ubuntu 10 lucid onto USB but with file system greater than 4 gig, but Lili Linux installer says it requires FAT32 and so limit live file system. is it possible to make a live USB greater than 4gig?
[01:04] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: it sounds like you want 32 bit, so go for it
[01:04] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, it sounds like I want 64bit, but don't know why
[01:04] <SIFTU> MrSassyPants: you just seem to be ignoring the whole RAM things.. while you may not have >3Gb or RAM many do. PAE has a penalty and can only goto 64Gb of RAM anyway
[01:05] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: 64 bit is a better architecture
[01:05] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, it's got twice the bits!
[01:05] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: like I said twice now, its not why, but why not
[01:05] <Shatters> currently on windows 7 btw, and so it can't install with linux etx's as far as I knoww
[01:05] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, because of potential compatibility problems
[01:05] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, but I guess I'm just a late adopter and those are worked out by now
[01:06] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: and I'm telling you that after years of being 64 bit, I still have not found a single one
[01:06] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: but, you might actually need something that really will not work on 64 bit linux
[01:07] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: thats why I say, find out if you do
[01:07] <boxybrown> FYI I solved my problem
[01:07] <a_cuttlefish> Shatters: keep in mind that i'm talking entirely out my ass and haven't actually tried this, but can't you just make two partitions on the same drive? use one for storage and the other for os?
[01:07] <MrSassyPants> nothing comes to my mind. especially as it's the home server, meaning it doesn't need cutting edge
[01:07] <boxybrown> it was an issue with the VM:
[01:07] <boxybrown> http://ubuntuguide.net/virtualbox-4-on-ext4-error-host-io-cache-will-now-be-enabled
[01:08] <Shatters> lol that's what I did the last time I installed cuttlefish, but when I was in here last night it sounded way complicated to use the second partition (logical) to install new programs.
[01:09] <Shatters> and after all the updates required when installing ub. 10 luc. it leaves me with about 2 gig space for more programs.
[01:09] <a_cuttlefish> 2gb isn't /that/ bad... right?
[01:09] <a_cuttlefish> if it comes down to it, could you move the programs off the main partition and put symlinks in their places?
[01:10] <Shatters> it's very bad when the updates are taking up 50% of the expected system space
[01:10] <MrSassyPants> noisewaterphd, don't you know, 64bit is recommended by ubuntu.com for servers. but 32bit is recommended for desktops.
[01:10] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: I am aware
[01:10] <Shatters> hmm not sure about symlinks. gotta google it. I've only used Ubuntu for a few days now.
[01:10] <a_cuttlefish> Shatters: ohhh. they're like shortcuts, but better.
[01:11] <noisewaterphd> MrSassyPants: besides physical address space, 64 bit ubuntu also consistently benchmarks faster than 32
[01:11] <soreau> Shatters: apt-cache clean should give some room by deleting downloaded packages I believe
[01:11] <soreau> Shatters: yes, symbolic links are like shortcuts in a way
[01:12] <Shatters> yeah I was using bleachbit for that soreau
[01:12] <Shatters> hmm, last person I asked about installations said that they go to usr/bin or bins but how do I know after installing a package what files go where because frankly the bin folder just looks like a mess
[01:13] <Shatters> and I can't tell what files are associated with what apps, they seem mixed up.
[01:13] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: /usr/bin is a common directory for program binaries, but it is not the only place they are put
[01:14] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: and many times it is up to you where they go
[01:14] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: either search, or just find out from wherever you got the software
[01:14] <Shatters> hm. how to I select a target directory? I couldn't figure it out
[01:15] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: use locate
[01:15] <Shatters> oh, like the package's website. but no way from package manager?
[01:15] <noisewaterphd> what software is it
[01:15] <noisewaterphd> I might already know
[01:15] <zorklat> I'm trying to install an HP LJ 1018, and when I try to get the proprietary component, the script complains it doesn't match its signature.  What do I do?
[01:15] <noisewaterphd> also how did you install it
[01:16] <Shatters> any future software I want to install after that 2 gig runs out really. 2 gig won't go very far
[01:16] <Shatters> I've only been installing things through package manager
[01:17] <noisewaterphd> ok, well if you install with apt or whatever, then the binary will be on your path no matter where it was put
[01:17] <noisewaterphd> so you can just type the name at the command line without caring where it is
[01:18] <Shatters> interesting, even if the executable is on another partition?
[01:18] <noisewaterphd> or if it is a service of somekind, like apache or whatever that runs as a service then you would use either service programname start|stop, or /etc/init.d/programname start|stop
[01:19] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: as long as that location is in your path
[01:20] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: it could be on a network drive, external, whatever, as long as that drive is mounted, and the location is on your path
[01:20] <Shatters> 'on your path' meaning the file path in the file's or symlink's properties, yes?
[01:20] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: if the location is not on your path you would need to use the canonical name to launch it
[01:21] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: literally your path
[01:21] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: you can see what is on it by typing echo $PATH at command line
[01:22] <zorklat> can anyone help with my HP LJ 1018?
[01:23] <zmbmartin> when I go to upload a file through a flash based file uploader on the web (like uploadify) the browser to select a file is not themed. It is like ugly plain gtk. Any idea why?
[01:23] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: have you tried downloading it again
[01:24] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: maybe its incomplete or corrupt and not matching its signature
[01:24] <zorklat> many times.  I get a warning about no permission when trying to get the key.
[01:24] <noisewaterphd> use sudo
[01:25] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: hp stuff has always 'just worked' for me in ubuntu for quite some time now
[01:25] <zorklat> ??  I plug in the printer, the script requires my PW thru gksu, it runs, it downloads the plugin, but it can't down load the key.
[01:25] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: but HP themselves are actually great help with linux customers
[01:26] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: sorry to say that I have no clue, I've given you all the advice I could think of without actually being through it myself
[01:27] <zorklat> any suggestions on how I could pull the script output from xterm?  It won't let me copy to clipboard.
[01:28] <Shatters> Okay, cool. I copy/pasted all this stuff in notepad to refer to when I boot up ubuntu. Thanks all.
[01:28] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: what is it that 'runs' when you plug in the printer? via usb I assume you mean right?
[01:28] <qin> zorklat: highligh and middleclick to paste.
[01:29] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: or actually right clicking will let you copy I think?
[01:29] <qin> zorklat: Wait, xterm?
[01:29] <zorklat> qin, yes
[01:30] <ubuntu_> when you are in an empty directory
[01:30] <noisewaterphd> oh, I've got the gnome terminal I'm sure
[01:30] <ubuntu_> and search the full contents with ls -a
[01:30] <qin> zorklat: Redirect output to file?
[01:30] <ubuntu_> three dots appear
[01:30] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: are you using gnome though, should still work?
[01:30] <ubuntu_> one . and the other ..    what are the function of these?
[01:31] <zorklat> noisewaterphd, LXDE/Natty.
[01:31] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: you could just do: programname >> output.txt
[01:31] <zorklat> qin, I don't run the script, it starts when I attach the printer's usb cable
[01:31] <zorklat> I don't know the script's name.
[01:31] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: oh, im no help either then
[01:31] <SIFTU> zorklat: use a different terminal emulator XFCE's "Terminal" doesnt have many dependancies
[01:32] <soreau> ubuntu_: . means the current directory and .. means the directory above the current directory in the tree
[01:32] <qin> zorklat: SIFTU sounds like wise man.
[01:32] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: is that somethin you installed that runs?
[01:32] <zmbmartin> anyone know why when the file browser that pops up to select a file from a flash based file uploader does not follow my ubunt theme?
[01:32] <soreau> ubuntu_: You can use ls . and ls .. in any directory to see this
[01:32] <zorklat> SIFTU, I would, but I don't choose the console.  Xterm fires up and runs the script, I don't know its name.
[01:32] <noisewaterphd> zmbmartin: flash is flash, doesnt use system theme
[01:33] <SIFTU> zorklat: how do you launch it?
[01:33] <zorklat> SIFTU, I plug in the printer's USB cable.
[01:33] <zmbmartin> noisewaterphd: right but this is a gtk file browser the pops up to select a file. let me upload a screenshot.
[01:34] <noisewaterphd> zmbmartin: i understand, but thats just flash
[01:34] <SIFTU> zorklat: never heard of that before.. HP printers usually work with hplip
[01:34] <noisewaterphd> zmbmartin: i mean, yes its gtk, but that is just how flash is
[01:35] <zmbmartin> noisewaterphd: in my archlinux install this is not the case.
[01:35] <zorklat> SIFTU, I installed that before I plugged in the printer.
[01:35] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: im with SIFTU, I've just got no idea what is happening on your machine to even come up with an idea
[01:35] <SIFTU> zorklat: plug it in and run "hp-setup" from a terminal
[01:35] <noisewaterphd> zmbmartin: let me rephrase, thats just how flash is on ubuntu
[01:36] <zorklat> SIFTU, command not found, unable to locate package.  Natty / LXDE, if it matters.
[01:37] <SIFTU> zorklat: shouldnt matter if you install hplip
[01:37] <zmbmartin> noisewaterphd: OK, that seems weird to me considering how well Ubuntu integrates everything. Thanks
[01:37] <noisewaterphd> zmbmartin: not saying that its right, or that you cant fix it, just saying, same thing happens to me
[01:38] <zorklat> SIFTU, hplip is installed.
[01:38] <g0rs> is anybody using gnome3  ?
[01:38] <SIFTU> zorklat: type "hp" and use tab completion
[01:39] <noisewaterphd> SIFTU: its hp-setup I'm sure
[01:39] <zorklat> SIFTU, aha.  needs a hyphen.
[01:39] <SIFTU> zorklat: yes, i had that in the orginal
[01:39] <zorklat> my bad then.
[01:41] <zorklat> SIFTU, here we go:  http://pastebin.com/c006TbTc
[01:42] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: I would assume that the downloaded file just doesnt match the sig, im not sure what you can do about that, but...
[01:42] <SIFTU> zorklat: hp-setup outputs that?
[01:43] <zorklat> SIFTU, yep.  every time.
[01:43] <ETERNA> I can proudly boast that I am a hacker... NOT that kind of hacker, a CODE HACKER. Jeez.
[01:43] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: why not just forget about that, use the 'Printing' app in Ubuntu and add and setup the printer that way
[01:43] <ETERNA> S' another name for a programmer.
[01:44] <SIFTU> noisewaterphd: it will need the hp drivers
[01:44] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: and see what comes of that method
[01:44] <ETERNA> So... what's the problem.
[01:44] <ETERNA> t?
[01:44] <ETERNA> Some printer issue?
[01:44] <noisewaterphd> SIFTU: doesnt the printing app download them for you as well if they arent present? maybe he'll get a good download from it
[01:44] <SIFTU> noisewaterphd: oh not sure
[01:45] <ETERNA> I'm a programmer. I can probably help if you tell me wat the problem is!
[01:45] <zorklat> wait, wait.  I think the device URI is messed up in the Ubuntu printing utility.
[01:45] <SIFTU> ETERNA: doubt it
[01:45] <noisewaterphd> SIFTU: I'm relly not sure either, just trying to think a way around the issue
[01:45] <ETERNA> It is true.
[01:46] <SIFTU> ETERNA: doing "hello world" doesnt make you a programmer
[01:46] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: are you using Gnome?
[01:46] <zorklat> hey, does this look right for device URI for printer:  hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_1018?serial=KP032SM
[01:46] <zorklat> noisewaterphd, LXDE/Natty.
[01:46] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: sorry, you already said that
[01:46] <ETERNA> I am using GNOME, and I have done WAY more than hello world.
[01:46] <zorklat> is ok, I forget stuff all the time.
[01:47] <noisewaterphd> ETERNA: he was teasing, we dont care
[01:47] <ETERNA> Oh...
[01:47] <ETERNA> Sorry.
[01:48] <ETERNA> So what's the issue?
[01:48] <noisewaterphd> ETERNA: nothing to be sorry about, just saying you dont need to prove yourself
[01:48] <ETERNA> Ok... thanks.
[01:50] <Qmanjr5> why can't I resize my current partition?
[01:50] <Qmanjr5> Meaning, the one I'm on.
[01:50] <ETERNA> It is mounted
[01:50] <Qmanjr5> Oh.
[01:50] <ETERNA> and if you do you will cause extreme file system damage
[01:50] <Qmanjr5> So um. What should I do? :P
[01:50] <ETERNA> Use a live cd to resize partitions
[01:51] <Qmanjr5> Alright. Thank you.
[01:51] <ETERNA> while they're not mounted.
[01:51] <noisewaterphd> Qmanjr5: boot from install disk, use live dist and do it from there
[01:51] <ETERNA> He already quit
[01:52] <PastorBones> I've been using the Classic mode on Ubuntu 11 and my menus at the top have all disappeared and everything is lagging (typing, window opening, etc)...how can I fix it?
[01:53] <ETERNA> I have no idea... maybe try booting into recovery terminal and doing sudo aptitude install -f
[01:53] <ETERNA> PastorBones: I have no idea... maybe try booting into recovery terminal and doing sudo aptitude install -f
[01:54] <ETERNA> Gotta jet.
[01:55] <yeats> !panels | PastorBones
[01:56] <PastorBones> YEAH!!! they're back, thank you
[01:59] <g0rs> has anybody tried gnome 3 yet ?
[01:59] <realazthat> ahoy
[02:00] <g0rs> hi realazthat
[02:00] <realazthat> I mistakenly chose the wrong kbd layout during installation I think
[02:00] <realazthat> how do I reset it to "us"?
[02:00] <g0rs> realazthat: you should be able to reset in settings ?
[02:00] <realazthat> I did a minimal install ... no settings, only console
[02:01] <g0rs> realazthat: Not sure about that
[02:01] <KM0201> realazthat: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[02:04] <realazthat> KM0201: ty, I don't think there is console-data, I tried console-setup though
[02:04] <KM0201> realazthat: hmm, did that work?
[02:04] <uofm49426> what do i need to install for a bttv card in ubuntu 1010
[02:05] <uofm49426> i only want the fm tuner
[02:05] <KM0201> realazthat: it looks like you need to install console-data     sudo apt-get install console-data
[02:05] <realazthat> KM0201: no, it was about encoding on the console, not hte keyboard
[02:05] <realazthat> kk, I'll try
[02:06] <KM0201> realazthat: that should do it.. i just did it on my server and it worked fine.
[02:07] <realazthat> yeah its configuring
[02:07] <realazthat> works :D
[02:07] <realazthat> now I can use the pipe symbol again :D:D
[02:07] <realazthat> ty
[02:07] <KM0201> np
[02:11] <balzac> I just about burst a blood vessel when I read this error message
[02:11] <Palace_chan> im getting "kill: SIGINT: invalid signal specification" if i run "kill -s SIGINT $pid" in a bash script but it works to run that in the terminal...how come?
[02:11] <balzac> xfce depends on _____ but it is not going to be installed
[02:11] <Corey> Palace_chan: man signal
[02:12] <balzac> what a bad error message.
[02:12] <Palace_chan> Corey, it works in the terminal, SIGINT is signal 2
[02:12] <balzac> Somebody ought to go back to school
[02:12] <balzac> Meanwhile, my pinky finger is going numb, making it hard to type.
[02:13] <Corey> Palace_chan: Right.  Firstly it's likely a pathing issue to a different kill (possibly the builtin), secondly specify 2 instead of SIGINT.
[02:13] <balzac> Maybe it's carpel tunnel syndrome
[02:14] <almoxarife> balzac: seems to me like a good error msg, I got it
[02:14] <balzac> no clue as to why this is the case
[02:15] <balzac> almoxarife: what beyond what is self evident do you get from that error message
[02:15] <almoxarife> balzac: I find those when I have ppa'ed my system into broke dependencies
[02:15] <Palace_chan> Corey, so changing SIGINT to 2 worked..that's curious
[02:15] <balzac> so we descend from english into technical jargon
[02:16] <almoxarife> balzac: sucks don't it? for free one would expect so much better
[02:16] <qin> balzac: Have you tried install _____ ?
[02:16] <jasef> balgarath, I would argue that technical jargon is ascent, not descent :P
[02:16] <balzac> almoxarife: free or not, people should take pride in their work.
[02:17] <jasef> er
[02:17] <jasef> balzac, *
[02:17] <jasef> Also, balzac, if you have broken dependencies, I'd try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:17] <jasef> Usually fixes that issue for me
[02:18] <balzac> Looks like the Ubuntu repository  maintainers are playing favorites a lot.
[02:18] <balzac> I ain't feeling the "ubuntu".
[02:18] <almoxarife> balzac: is that a question? I can help you with that
[02:18] <balzac> Nice idea, but something is lost in translation.
[02:19] <balzac> xfce and kde should install without such difficulties.
[02:19] <balzac> We're not locking in one desktop to rule them all
[02:19] <balzac> Not at the expense of having other options
[02:20] <balzac> Or else it's time to go back to debian.
[02:20] <almoxarife> balzac: I can help you with that, you need to take a pill, get some warm milk and call it done for the day
[02:21] <jasef> Er, balzac, I can install xfce or kde fine
[02:21] <balzac> well I can't. I have to do something fancy to clear the dependencies.
[02:21] <jasef> did apt-get -f install do anything?
[02:21] <balzac> Also, my xfce installation got messed up somehow.
[02:21] <almoxarife> balzac: how many ppa's you got installed?
[02:23] <balzac> jasef, I haven't done it yet.
[02:23] <balzac> I've been overly reliant on synaptic
[02:24] <jasef> Ah, lol. I hate synaptic... I only use it when I need to go through a proxy and my stupid apt proxy doesnt work
[02:25] <stigma_> Hello Ubuntu community! I could use some assistance; should I read the terms before asking questions, or are those general behavioral guidelines?
[02:25] <jasef> Afaik just behavioral guidelines.... I never read them though
[02:27] <stigma_> Okay, I just installed Ubuntu on my home machine (replacing Windows altogether).  My system will not boot now, stopping at the "Loading Operating System..." prompt.  It waits for 20-ish seconds and then says "error: no such device: " very large hex(?) string.  Then "grub rescue>".  This is an AMD x64 machine with two SSD's in RAID 0.  Any ideas what the problem may be?  Any more information I need to furnish?
[02:27] <detly> okay, so I put the ubuntu installer on a usb stick using unetbootin and tried to install it, but two things went wrong: (a) the installer told me that dpkg returned an error and all of the libreoffice packages are broken, which is probably recoverable, and (b) when I reboot, I just see a screen that says "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key"
[02:28] <maynardwv1> I am running an ubuntu derivitave called Zorin, and am unable to connect to the network wired. Any suggestions?
[02:28] <SIFTU> stigma_: are you using the mb raid?
[02:29] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: make sure you dont need a driver for your particular nic
[02:29] <stigma_> Yes, the driver was provided by Gigabyte and the controller is onboard.
[02:29] <maynardwv1> Any idea as to how I can check?
[02:29] <scratchingmyhead> Hello all... Zorin is linux isn't it?    Why cant I find a source code to compile my own
[02:29] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: find out what your nic is and use google
[02:30] <SIFTU> stigma_: I would suggest using the linux software raid mdadm
[02:30] <maynardwv1> Sorry, but I am not exactly a smart man. How do I find what my nic is?
[02:30] <SIFTU> stigma_: those mb raids are are usually only written for windows
[02:30] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: actually, is wired an option you can select, but just not getting connected to your router, or is it just unavailabe. Should clarify that first
[02:31] <scratchingmyhead> When asking the oracle....  Zorin Source code.. I find 0         Isnt that a violation of linux not providing the source code???
[02:31] <maynardwv1> It is available to connect to, but does not connect. I just watch the litte connect widget cycle through for a few, but no connection
[02:31] <stigma_> SIFTU: Can you point me to good documentation for that?  I am not well versed in Linux.  I've used Ubuntu in the past, not far from a power user.  Also, should I chose to reinstall Windoze parallel to Ubuntu, will the software RAID cause problems with Windows?
[02:32] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: are you able to get connection wirelessly?
[02:32] <maynardwv1> yes. without issue
[02:32] <stigma_> SIFTU: Excuse me: that should be "but far from a power user".  Very far from a power user, lol.
[02:33] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: because unfortunately at this point its diving into a whole different matter of your router and its setup. I will go ahead and assume you have made sure that the ethernet cable is actually plugged in at each end
[02:33] <SIFTU> stigma_: you will need the alternate cd with with text based installer
[02:33] <stigma_> oh noes, lol
[02:33] <SIFTU> stigma_: there are documents out there i fyou googlw
[02:34] <datakid> I"m having trouble mounting an NTFS external drive with -o iocharset=utf8 - basically, it's not working
[02:34] <datakid> I'm still getting wide char errors, even though it should be ok with utf8?
[02:34] <SIFTU> stigma_: you will need to break the RAID on the mb, which could cause problems with your windows install if you have already installed it on there
[02:34] <datakid> sorry, I should re phrase that
[02:34] <maynardwv1> noisewaterphd: yes. I have actually checked with other hardware even to ensure that the port isn't the problem. everything seems to work with port except the Zorin computer
[02:34] <datakid> I'm mounting a drive successfully using -o iocharset=utf8 but when I rsync to the drive, it fails on wide chars
[02:35] <stigma_> SIFTU: Windows is currently not installed.  I may, however choose to reinstall in the future, as I play some games that AFAIK are not supported on Linux (Starcraft II, for example).
[02:35] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: can you run ifconfig from a terminal and give us the output in pastebin
[02:35] <Stevesicution> !ops
[02:35] <SIFTU> stigma_: yeah that wil be fine
[02:35] <IdleOne> Stevesicution: yes?
[02:35] <maynardwv1> Sorry, but... pastebin?
[02:35] <Madpilot> Stevesicution, ?
[02:35] <Stevesicution> !ops
[02:36] <stigma_> SIFTU: Windows will be able to use the Ubuntu software RAID?
[02:36] <SIFTU> stigma_: also I suggest partiting with /boot not part of the RAID, on another disk maybe?
[02:36] <IdleOne> !guidelines > Stevesicution
[02:36] <SIFTU> stigma_: no but it will see the disks, just leave room when you partition
[02:36] <HyperWizard> !ops
[02:37] <HyperWizard> !ops
[02:37] <FloodBot1> HyperWizard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:37] <SIFTU> stigma_: also if you install windows after ubuntu it will overwrite the mbr, so you will need to reinstall grub
[02:37] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/, you paste into that and give us the unique URL so that you dont fill the room with a whole bunch of output
[02:38] <edwardthefma> hello all
[02:38] <maynardwv1> noisewaterphd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702550/
[02:38] <edwardthefma> i have this weard problrm
[02:38] <stigma_> SIFTU: Yes, I am aware of that problem and also that grub is rebuildable.  Not ideal, but at least fixable.  Anyway, I'm not sure I'm following the first part.. you are saying that if I use Ubunut's software RAID and leave room, Windows RAID drivers will be able to consume the remaining space as a separate RAID?  In other words, I will have two separate RAIDS spanning the same two physical devices?
[02:38] <edwardthefma> with my dns i just set up
[02:38] <maynardwv1> This is from wireless connection. Should I have connected to the ethernet ?
[02:39] <detly> also, I asked this last night but couldn't hang around for an answer, but is there any way to tell the ubuntu installer to use a repo in my country rather than the US one?
[02:39] <edwardthefma> i need help sorting out a dinamic dns issue
[02:39] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: ya, select "Auto eth0" from that menu, let it do its thing and give us another pastebin
[02:39] <maynardwv1> just a min
[02:40] <SIFTU> stigma_: no windows wont be in a raid unless you make it a software raid in windows.. basically you cant use the MB raid with any other OS than windows. they are cheap like that
[02:40] <edwardthefma> i just set up my dns today but for som strange reason its not letting me acess it
[02:41] <edwardthefma> but my frends and other pepol can vewe it
[02:41] <edwardthefma> veiw
[02:41] <orange__> gregoryo
[02:41] <stigma_> SIFTU: I very much appreciate your advice and assistance.  Hate to ask more questions, but I'm not familiar with software RAID.  Does it come with overhead such that the performance increase is no longer worthwhile?
[02:42] <noisewaterphd> edwardthefma: ping your domain address real quick and see if you are getting served the correct ip
[02:42] <Pilif12p> why does my computer suddenly shut down after i unplug it?
[02:42] <SIFTU> stigma_: so you partition each ssd the same, probably 3 partitions, 200Mb for /boot XXGb for / , XXGB for swap and XXGB for windows, then when you install you combine the / and swap to be raid 0
[02:42] <noisewaterphd> edwardthefma: could be caching an old one or something
[02:42] <Pilif12p> i suppose i should mention that this is a laptop :P
[02:42] <SIFTU> stigma_: no more than the MB RAID, as the MB RAID uses the cpu too.. basicially on modern CPU's there is plenty of power for the CPU to do RAID
 it works for other pepol to vewe
[02:43] <noisewaterphd> Pilif12p: is your battery bad?
[02:43] <edwardthefma> i just cant acess it for som weard reson on this particular pc
[02:43] <noisewaterphd> edwardthefma: your personal machine could be caching an old record
[02:43] <edwardthefma> ok
[02:43] <stigma_> SIFTU: Honestly, do you think it's better (e.g. less likely for me to blow up), if I simply break the RAID altogether and install one OS on one disk and the other OS on the opposite?
[02:43] <SIFTU> stigma_: usually <5% CPU for RAID depending on specs and disk speed etc. My dual core atom is good for 400Mb/s read with the linux raid
[02:43] <edwardthefma> its not just the web brouser
[02:43] <noisewaterphd> edwardthefma: your router can cache an old record, your particular isp can cache an old record, etc, etc,
[02:43] <Pilif12p> noisewaterphd: no, it's only about a year and a half old, it started today, it doesn't full the full charge anymore, but it says 91% with 3.5 hours left right now
[02:44] <Pilif12p> It only happens right after I unplug, then I can reboot
[02:44] <stigma_> SIFTU: I'm running a Phenom II x6
[02:44] <SIFTU> stigma_: you could do that.. but I thought you wanted the performance increase of RAID0
[02:44] <Pilif12p> It says that the battery level is critical, then shuts down, with no more than 5 seconds warning
 is thare a way to fix this quickly
[02:44] <Pilif12p> hm, i should be in #ubuntu+1 i guess...
[02:45] <noisewaterphd> edwardthefma: well we need to find out if that is even the problem, if it is, then yes
[02:45] <maynardwv1> noisewaterphd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702553/   This is with ethernet plugged in, and after hitting auto connect, but I can't spot a difference
[02:45] <edwardthefma> kkk
[02:45] <stigma_> SIFTU: Oh I do, but if this is a solution that is likely to fail given my experience level... what can ya do?  Think I can handle it given zero software RAID experience and very little Linux experience?
[02:45] <maynardwv1> my bad, auto etho
[02:45] <SIFTU> stigma_: software raid actually has advantages too.. you can rebuild on any linux system (not MB dependant etc)
[02:46] <SIFTU> stigma_: yeah there are good guides
[02:47] <SIFTU> stigma_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[02:47] <stigma_> SIFTU: Thanks for the link.  Do I need to break the mobo RAID before following the steps there?
[02:49] <scratchingmyhead> Does anyone know where the Linux source code for Zorin is??????    I cant find it on Goodge
[02:50] <noisewaterphd> Pilif12p: OK, just checking the obvious. If it just started happening overnight you'll have to  go back and take a look at any updates or new softare you may have installed and see if any of them have bugs that may have done it
[02:51] <Pilif12p> noisewaterphd: Nope, I haven't installed anything lately
[02:52] <balzac> Currently the xfce re-installation is taking place on very sluggish wifi.
[02:52] <Atharva> Hi..how can I install kde ?
[02:53] <noisewaterphd> Atharva: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:54] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: sorry, didnt notice your new paste til just now
[02:54] <dockhorn> heya, i'm looking for help with my system, specifically getting the video card on my motherboard to behave better, tried asking on #kubuntu but doesn't seem to be anyone there...
[02:55] <maynardwv1> noisewaterphd: its okay.
[02:55] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: it looks like your driver is fine, next step is to start looking at the router and cables
[02:56] <maynardwv1> I have checked everything I know to check.
[02:59] <stigma_> SIFTU: Well thanks again for all your help.  I honestly was not aware of this "FakeRAID" deception, lol.  I will do more research before proceeding.
[03:00] <Ttech> What just happened with flood bot?
[03:00] <knightvoid> anyone have advice on where to dl safe torrents?
[03:01] <somsip> !share | knightvoid
[03:01] <twotenn> hello!
[03:01] <zorklat> I have figured out my printing problem.
[03:02] <balzac> the xfce package was reinstalled broken
[03:02] <balzac> no title bars, no menus, no maximize and minimize
[03:02] <zorklat> noisewaterphd, SIFTU, the problem is that openprinting.org is down.
[03:03] <twotenn> I just installed Ubuntu Studio 11.04 and I installed the wrong nvidia driver and now I get a black screen login, how can I get back to vga graphics to fix this?
[03:03] <balzac> that's what I'm talking about with the careless package management
[03:03] <scratchingmyhead> Tried to find the source code online with google but there doesn't seem to be any????
[03:03] <balzac> maybe there's a stray .conf file somewhere
[03:03] <knightvoid> somsip can you explain
[03:03] <somsip> scratchingmyhead: zorin is not supported here - it's not an official derivative of ubuntu
[03:03] <qin> scratchingmyhead: zorin, yeah?
[03:03] <somsip> knightvoid: this is not a sharing channel.
[03:03] <scratchingmyhead> qin   yeah
[03:04] <scratchingmyhead> qin   yeah os 5
[03:04] <scratchingmyhead> qin   How can they claim to be linux but not provide the source
[03:04] <noisewaterphd> zorklat: ha, well that solves the signature mystery
[03:05] <twotenn> I rebooted to a repair shell and installed mc to get around but the old x11 config file is no longer there
[03:05] <Atharva> knightvoid : Join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:05] <qin> scratchingmyhead: Besides what somsip just told you, "what licence it comes with?" is right question to ask.
[03:05] <twotenn> so how can I kick out the bad nvidia driver from a root shell?
[03:05] <knightvoid> ty atharva
[03:05] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: at this point I'm afraid I'm not of much help short of actually being there
[03:06] <Atharva> knightvoid  : ?
[03:06] <scratchingmyhead> qin  hhuummm  Not sure///  REALLY love the disto and was looking to learn about it... Thanks for your input
[03:06] <knightvoid> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:06] <jasef> balzac, which package did you install? xfce4?
[03:06] <maynardwv1> noisewaterphd: I really appreciate your help. I was at a loss, and thought I'd give irc a shot. You have at least given me a few things to look at. Thanks.
[03:07] <twotenn> how about apt-get remove nvidia?
[03:07] <knightvoid> thanks atharva
[03:07] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: there is still the off chance that you need a special driver (but in most cases the nic just wouldnt even be available), or maybe the card could be bad? I dont even know what else to tell you to check. You said you already checked the cable, and connect a different machine, so I just don't know what else to do to help.
[03:08] <noisewaterphd> maynardwv1: sorry we didnt get it fixed
[03:08] <balzac> okay, finally got it going again
[03:08] <balzac> yeah, that's the one
[03:08] <balzac> I had to run xfwm from the command prompt
[03:09] <maynardwv1> noisewaterphd: could definitely be right with bad card. My dual boot with something else as a check. thanks again
[03:10] <jasef> balzac, Okay, I'm downloading xfce4 now to see if it happens to me O-o
[03:10] <twotenn> can anyone here me? or are you all just ignoring me?
[03:10] <balzac> twotenn: thanks
[03:10] <balzac> I'm just in an environment full of irritating people
[03:10] <Atharva> !wait | twotenn
[03:11] <twotenn> okay sure
[03:11] <balzac> jasef: thank you
[03:13] <william_> Can anyone help me with SAMBA file sharing Ubuntu 11.04?
[03:13] <soreau> balzac: What's the problem you're having again?
[03:13] <Atharva> William_ : Whats the problem dude ?
[03:13] <bebe-bot> hi everyone
[03:13] <soreau> ! samba | william_
[03:14] <Atharva> bebe-bot : Hello..!
[03:15] <william_> I have a successful SAMBA share going on my PC on my home LAN, but my Laptop won't even see it over wi-fi
[03:15] <bebe-bot> hi Atharva
[03:15] <bebe-bot> is it a linux channel ?
[03:15] <nikitakit> touchscreen/tablet are working poorly on my computer. Can anyone help?
[03:15] <bebe-bot> ubuntu i means
[03:15]  * Aiya greets~I have question.I have defult movie player in ubuntu.How do I install all codec for the player so when i ever I want to play a video in new format its does not need to download and install it.Thanks
[03:16] <c_nick> I wanted to access my computer at my workstation.. now we have an external ip but to which they have linked many individual copies .. is there a way i can access the same ?
[03:16] <bebe-bot> I'm trying to edit a file locate in /ect/modprobe/alsabase.conf , when finish to edit and have problem to save the file , the message error is acces denied . please can you help me to save ?
[03:16] <ljsoftnet> Aiya install VLC media player it play almost all media files
[03:17] <william_> My SAMBA share works from other wired WIndows and Ubuntu PCs... But not my Laptop over wifi
[03:17] <balzac> It's a good thing a gnu screen session persists after logging out
[03:17] <balzac> Great program
  : do I need to install codec also for it?
 : open using -> sudo grdit /etc/modprobe/alsabase.conf
[03:17] <xangua> Aiya: ubuntu-restricted-extras will download restricted audio/video codecs, flash and java stuff, etc
 how do I set it.
[03:18] <Atharva> bebe-bot : sorry..   sudo gedit /ect/modprobe/alsabase.conf
[03:18] <xangua> Aiya: sudo apt-get install
[03:18] <bebe-bot> Thanks Atharva
 Thanks
[03:19] <Atharva> bebe-bot : Working ?
[03:20] <bebe-bot> Atharva : yes working perfect
 : Congrats :)
[03:21] <datakid> ok, what
[03:21] <bebe-bot> since yesterday trying to open it , read a big book . Thanks very much
 you might want to look at your smb.conf file to see if it is allowing your wireless network address
[03:21] <datakid> what's the difference between something being mounted fuseblk vs smb?
[03:21] <jasef> balzac, it's finished downloading, how do you want me to test it? starting from command line? or the gnome session manager?
[03:24] <nikitakit> My touchscreen (evdev input) insists on dragging everything to the top left corner, (0,0). Can anyone help?
[03:26] <bebe-bot> after edit a file does it need me to reboot my laptop to get it working ?
[03:26] <paulo> HELLO
[03:27] <jtrag> hi
[03:27] <bebe-bot> Hi
[03:27] <jasef> bebe-bot, depedns what file
[03:27] <jasef> depends*
[03:27] <jtrag> beb: no just reboot whatever service is using the file (restart it)
[03:28] <bebe-bot> ok , i will reboot , the service still in process , thanks to you
 let me know when you are back in here
[03:28] <jtrag> You're welcome
[03:28] <xgt001> hello , how to delete a folder from cli ? whats the command?
 if the directory is empty: rmdir
[03:29] <jasef> rm -rf <folder>
[03:29] <sysyogi> if it has contents do what <jasef> said
[03:29] <jasef> I love how rm -rf / doesn't work in ubuntu lol
[03:29] <xgt001> thanks :)
[03:30] <jtrag> rmdir <your directory you want to erase here>
[03:30] <jtrag> that removes a whole folder
[03:30] <jtrag> rm just removes a single file
[03:30] <jtrag> rmdir removes the whole folders
[03:30] <jasef> rmdir only works if it's empty
[03:30] <jasef> rm -rf deletes an entire folder and everything in it
[03:31] <jtrag> -rf is recursive and forced
[03:31] <jtrag> yeah that would have to be added
[03:31] <jasef> -.- Thanks, I already said that in the beginning
[03:32] <xgt001> folks, i need a mp3 player in ubuntu which doesnt wake up my laptop fan.... i have had tried rhythmbox and banshee, but it ends up running my fan in fullspeed even if i play a single song
[03:32] <jasef> I hate it when people try to be smart -.-
[03:33] <starsinmypockets> I'm trying to enable apache suexec module.. however, using a2enmod suexec doesn't seem to create the binaries...
[03:33] <qin> xgt001: mplayer song.mp3
[03:34] <jtrag> nice song
[03:34] <starsinmypockets> Flags --enable-suexec --... are not recognized
[03:34] <xgt001> qin,  any good frontend for mplayer?
[03:34] <jtrag> yeah it's called Amarok
[03:34] <jtrag> lol
[03:34] <starsinmypockets> Not sure how to compile this once the mod is enabled...
[03:34] <qin> xgt001: No clue, just test if fan will start.
[03:35] <xangua> xgt001: gnome-mplayer, umplayer
[03:35] <xgt001> thanks :)
[03:35] <furyoshonen> I think my screen saver is causing my Internet connection to disconnect, and not be able to reconnect, does anyone know if thats what this means: [25244.324522] gnome-screensav[27362]: segfault at 4 ip 00007feb27007dce sp 00007fffd6fab990 error 4 in libGL.so.1.2[7feb26fa5000+c0000]
[03:37] <SIFTU> xgt001: smplayer
[03:37] <aaron> anyone know how to change the color of folders etc when doing an ls in terminal?
[03:38] <nikitakit> aaron: do you want to enable color, or change the color scheme?
[03:39]  * jtrag|AWAY is away: Gone away for now
[03:42] <ram0042> anyone in 11.10?
 : join #ubuntu+1
[03:43] <ram0042> ok
[03:45] <zyrd> anyone familiar with the process of installing the correct realtek module for the whole 8111/8168 snafu? i... don't know that i am locating the correct tarball
[03:46] <ponyofde1th> hi, im running oneiric and trying to get an only kde desktop anyone know what virtual packages i need to remove?
[03:47] <ponyofde1th> also how do i disable services starting at boot?
[03:48] <peeps[lappy]> how can i change my settings so that i can type a backtick without gnome menu intercepting the keystroke and opening instead
[03:48] <peeps[lappy]> i disabled it in keyboard shortcuts, but it still does it
[03:51] <Kabuthunk> 'Ello all.  Don't know if anyone remembers me from a few days ago.  Unlikely, anyway.
[03:52] <theadmin> Kabuthunk: You should just re-ask your question, or ask the new one, or whatever
[03:53] <Kabuthunk> Nah, the problem is essentially gone by completely unexpected and unusual means.  I was just going to let those who helped me know what happened if they were curious as to the outcome of their suggestions.
[03:53] <theadmin> Kabuthunk: Ah, I see.
[03:53] <theadmin> Kabuthunk: Well, all is well that ends well
[03:53] <Kabuthunk> Indeed.
[03:56] <bobot> coming back , now get it working , thanks to you guys
[03:58] <datakid> how can I stop the OS from mounting a drive fuse, and instead mount it ntfs?
[03:59] <zenrox> fuse uses ntfs
[03:59] <theadmin> datakid: fuse mounts ntfs just fine...
[03:59] <zenrox> yep
[04:00] <datakid> theadmin, zenrox I'm having trouble getting the fuseblk type to recognise utf8
[04:00] <datakid> using -o iocharset
[04:00] <datakid> but apparently mounting the drive ntfs with nls=utf8 will work....
[04:00] <Kabuthunk> Oohh... I won't be able to do it now, but I might as well ask about the difficulty levels... how hard is it to change grub to have dual-boot set up when Linux and Windows are on two separate hard drives?
[04:00] <theadmin> datakid: Meh... mount -o remount,nls=utf8 -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdz15 /mnt
[04:00] <zenrox> hmm thats a hard one datakid
[04:01] <zyrd> really, i just need to know that r100_v1.07.tgz somehow becomes the r8168-8.009.00.tar.bz file i keep seeing used to compile the correct module/driver for realtek8111 onboard ethernet. ubuntu 10.4 being utilized....
[04:01] <theadmin> Kabuthunk: You don't really need GRUB for that, just use your BIOS boot menu
[04:01] <Kabuthunk> Well yeah, I could hit F11 every time it boots up, but that's kinda annoying.
[04:01] <zyrd> if not, could someone please point me in the right direction... i've been trying to get this ethernet issue fixed for... 12 hours now. ish.
[04:02] <Kabuthunk> That's what I've been doing until the Linux drive up and died :P
[04:02] <theadmin> Kabuthunk: Well then, it can't be too hard, and I think there are some GUI tools to manage GRUB as well, but I don't know a thing about how grub2 works so
[04:02] <theadmin> !grub | Kabuthunk, read this stuff
[04:02] <Kabuthunk> Eh, I'll hunt it down online eventually.  It's not a necessity, and like I said I can't do it immediately anyway.
[04:02] <datakid> theadmin, nope, still getting errors: "Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character (84)"
[04:03] <Kabuthunk> Need to format drive, re-partition, and re-install Ubuntu.
[04:03] <Kabuthunk> Just haven't gotten around to... all of that yet :P
[04:03] <Kabuthunk> Gotta say though... having Linux and Windows on separate drives has saved my ass on multiple occasions.
[04:03] <Kabuthunk> Such as now, since I'm in Windows :P
[04:03] <kendrickLeiter> What is the best windows VM in the repositories?
[04:04] <theadmin> kendrickLeiter: Virtualbox is the best way
[04:04] <kendrickLeiter> thank you
[04:04] <theadmin> !info virtualbox
[04:04] <theadmin> Bah, ubottu.
[04:04] <theadmin> !info virtualbox-ose
[04:04] <theadmin> kendrickLeiter: ^
[04:05] <datakid> theadmin, also note: the nls=utf8 doesn't show up when I less /etc/mtab ...
[04:05] <theadmin> datakid: Probably not a valid option for NTFS at all
[04:06] <trevelyon> hello, anyone on here have experience with md?
[04:06] <bobot> hey , quick question please , when am using pidgin for a messenger or msn chat i can't make a video or audio call , does it need me to download others package ?
[04:06] <theadmin> bobot: Pidgin doesn't support voice/video except on XMPP
[04:06] <bobot> or need others software ?
[04:07] <datakid> theadmin, the ubuntu docs would suggest it is
[04:07] <zyrd> i guess not. onwards then.
[04:07] <bobot> wow , so i need to download others sofware , rihgt ? can you advise me others ?
[04:07] <bobot> because ebuddy also do not support it .
[04:08] <theadmin> bobot: I *think* amsn has VV support on MSN
[04:08] <xangua> bobot: pidgin support voice and vide with jabber protocol only
[04:08] <kendrickLeiter> Thanks for the help theadmin
[04:08] <xangua> theadmin: bobot until it broke, as always when microsoft make changes
[04:09] <JPSman> I was wondering how to make an ubuntu USB - NOT the live cd version but a portable version
[04:09] <trevelyon> Anyone familiar with mdadm or is there a better channel for software raid questions?
[04:09]  * theadmin never actually uses voice/video calls except with imo.im users, and that works with all imo.im users no matter what's the protocol, some weird APIs around xD
[04:09] <JPSman> I already made a "live usb" but I want to be able to change is and customize it - how can I do that?
[04:09] <FoolsRun> Does anyone know a scripty way (either sh or python) to get the display number (like :0 or :1) of the X session running on the monitor?
[04:09] <JPSman> is it possible to just alter this live usb in some way?
[04:09] <bobot> wow , so no way , lol or maybe i will emule msn with wine .
[04:10] <theadmin> FoolsRun: echo $DISPLAY :P
[04:10] <FoolsRun> theadmin: but will that work from an ssh session?
[04:10] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Probably yes
[04:10] <FoolsRun> theadmin: sadly no :(
[04:10] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Isn't it *always* :0?
[04:10] <FoolsRun> theadmin: apparently not if you've restarted GDM
[04:11] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Oh, how weird
[04:11] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Well then, just "export DISPLAY=:0"
[04:12] <datakid> theadmin, see here for instance: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[04:12] <FoolsRun> theadmin: that's what I'm trying, but since the monitor's display is now :1, my app won't run.
[04:12] <Kabuthunk> Aaand I'm off to sleep for the night.
[04:12] <Kabuthunk> Later all.
[04:12] <theadmin> FoolsRun: How about "DISPLAY=:1 yourapp"?
[04:13] <FoolsRun> theadmin: that does work, but it'll break again next time I reboot. I'm trying to find some way to make it work regardless of whether GDM has been restarted.
[04:13] <theadmin> FoolsRun: hm, that's a toughie
[04:13] <FoolsRun> So I want export DISPLAY=:Whatever_it_actually_is_right_now
[04:13] <theadmin> FoolsRun: For me at least
[04:14] <FoolsRun> I wonder if I can ask GDM what its display is somehow
[04:16] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Apparently, you can set the following in the [servers] section of gdm.conf: "0=/usr/bin/X11/X"
[04:17] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Should fix it up, I guess, and just remove any other displays in there
[04:17] <FoolsRun> theadmin: that should make it always use :0?
[04:17] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Yeah
[04:18] <FoolsRun> Let's find out!
[04:19] <FoolsRun> Yup, that did it!
[04:19] <FoolsRun> Thanks a ton!
[04:19] <theadmin> FoolsRun: No problem. Just so you know, I just googled "GDM configuration" :P
[04:20] <FoolsRun> ha. I wasn't even looking at that. I was googling things like "list all X displays"
[04:24] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Man, GDM is complicated :/
[04:24] <FoolsRun> theadmin: aren't they switching away form GDM for Oneric?
[04:24] <Avenger1432> Hello...   I   need some help with ubuntu 11.04 ??
[04:24] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Yeah, they made up something called "lightdm"
[04:24] <FoolsRun> Avenger1432: can you be more specific?
[04:24] <theadmin> Avenger1432: Just ask your question.
[04:25] <theadmin> FoolsRun: I use lxdm+xfce
[04:25] <Avenger1432> ok.. I have a new Aspire 5750-6589 laptop... and I cant get wired ethernet or wireless working
[04:25] <theadmin> FoolsRun: XFCE has no display manager of it's own, so I had to find something desktop-independent but configurable, and there I was :D
[04:25] <FoolsRun> theadmin: I actually like Unity. I think it's great for typical "I only actually ever use a web browser" laptop usage.
[04:26] <theadmin> FoolsRun: "I only actually ever use a web browser"? lxdm, "poweroff" in /etc/lxdm/PostLogout, and "exec opera" or whatever browser you use in your .xinitrc :P
[04:27] <FoolsRun> theadmin: Plus it's pretty and I'd feel comfortable putting my parents in front of it. I think that's important and I like that Ubuntu thinks so, too.
[04:28] <Onlyodin> Has anyone seen the Aldi Fission multitouch mouse, and have any idea how to get scrolling working?
[04:28] <Avenger1432> my ethernet... just spins that wheel thing in the top right corner and kind of glitches or  flashes...  and wireless just does not appear at all
[04:28] <Avenger1432> wondering how to fix it
[04:28] <koleary> rfay, ping
[04:28] <Avenger1432> on aspire 5750-6489
[04:28] <Avenger1432> 6589
[04:29] <FoolsRun> Avenger: I hate to ask, but have you googled it?
[04:29] <Avenger1432> yes
[04:29] <theadmin> Avenger1432: As for ethernet, what is the result of "sudo ifconfig eth0 up ; sudo dhcpcd eth0"?
[04:29] <Avenger1432> idk I would have to go back to it... and find out im using win 7 right now
[04:30] <FoolsRun> Avenger1432: do you have another device handy you could join this chat from while booting to Ubuntu?
[04:30] <Avenger1432> ya kind of i have a desktop i guess
[04:30] <donattt> test
[04:30] <theadmin> donattt: On the wall?
[04:30] <FoolsRun> (okay totally unrelated but wow: XBMC recently added AirPlay support and it works amazingly well and easily)
[04:30] <Avenger1432> one sec cuz i have to reconnect the internet on there.... using it for my xbox
[04:31] <donattt> theadmin, ok
[04:34] <Avenger1432> havent used my desktop in like a month lol
[04:37] <Avenger14322> hi im on my desktop now...  what was the code i have to put in
[04:37] <Avenger14322> please
[04:37] <FoolsRun> sudo ifconfig eth0 up ; sudo dhcpcd eth0
[04:37] <Avenger14322> thx
[04:38] <nikitakit> I need help with my touchscreen: whenever I take my finger off the screen the cursor moves to (0,0) - top left corner- before being released
[04:38] <paulus68> I have this command to show me the largest files in this directory how do I actually grab this file in order to move it to a new location find /media/backup1/backups -size +10000k -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l
[04:39] <k_oleary> jko
[04:39] <k_oleary> quit
[04:42] <Avenger14322> ok...   output says       Link encap: Ethernet   Hwaddr b8:70:f4:ad:ef:f8    UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1   RX packets:0 errors: 0   dropped:0 overruns:0  frame:0   TX packets: 0   errors: 0  dropped:0 overruns:0  carrier: 0  collisions:0  txqueuelen: 1000   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)   TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)   interrupt: 16                       and   sudo: dhcpcd: command not found
[04:42] <FoolsRun> Avenger14322: type ifconfig
[04:42] <theadmin> Avenger14322: Then replace dhcpcd with dhclient.
[04:43] <k_oleary> quit
[04:44] <Avenger14322> did that..
[04:45] <FoolsRun> and?
[04:45] <Avenger14322> didnt do anything... gave me an output for ifconfig if you want that..
[04:45] <FoolsRun> does it say whether you have an IP?
[04:45] <theadmin> Avenger14322: Well, try pinging google now and see if it works
[04:45] <Avenger14322> i did the dhclient... it paused and returned me to the prompt
[04:46] <Avenger14322> ok one sec
[04:46] <FoolsRun> Avenger: follow theadmin, try typing ping google.com
[04:47] <Stupp> good morning, I need help to get timidity working with pulseaudio
[04:47] <Monona> How do I check my hard drive for bad sectors?
[04:47] <theadmin> Monona: fsck
[04:47] <paulus68> with this command I can get the largest file however what do I need to adapt in order to move it to another location ?find /media/backup1/backups -type f -exec ls -s {} \; | sort -n | tail -n 1 |
[04:48] <theadmin> paulus68: mv $(all that mess) /some/location/
[04:48] <Stupp> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems/KarmicCaveats there's a fix but it doesn't work, I'm running natty
[04:48] <Monona> theadmin: what options should I run it with?
[04:49] <theadmin> Monona: Just your drive, e.g. /dev/sdb5
[04:49] <Avenger143221> chown: failed to get attributes of 'etc/resolv.conf': no such file or directory                      chmod: failed to get attributes of 'etc/resolv.conf': no such file or directory    was the output after i connected lan and did the code again
[04:49] <theadmin> Monona: Err, partition... Oh wait, that checks filesystem, not exactly what we want
[04:49] <FoolsRun> Monona: you can even use the drive's mountpoint, e.g. /media/ExternalDrive
[04:49] <Stupp> doesn't badblocks work?
[04:50] <paulus68> theadmin: if I understand you correctly it's better to put the find in a variable and then use mv in order to ship it over to the new location?
[04:50] <Avenger143221> and the icon flickers in the top corner
[04:50] <Avenger143221> and disconnects
[04:50] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Not really, you can't fsck a mounted partition unless you want "SEVERE filesystem damage"
[04:50] <theadmin> paulus68: That'd also do it, yeah
[04:50] <paulus68> theadmin: thx
[04:50] <FoolsRun> theadmin: no, but once you unmount it you can still refer to it by its mountpoint
[04:50] <Monona> theadmin: Should I run it from a boot CD?
[04:51] <theadmin> paulus68: But $(COMMAND) allows to put the output of COMMAND basically anywhere :D
[04:51] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Only if it's in fstab
[04:51] <FoolsRun> theadmin: true
[04:51] <FoolsRun> theadmin: which all of mine are. I can never remember my device names, so I use the mountpoints
[04:51] <Stupp> my timidity/pulseaudio problem, anyone?
[04:51] <FoolsRun> Avenger: did you ping google?
[04:52] <Avenger143221> no  thought it would be useless...  it was telling ethernet was disconnected
[04:52] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Heh, I mostly use /dev/disk/by-label/*
[04:52] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Given that the device *has* a label, that is
[04:53] <theadmin> Avenger143221: Networkmanager will not track the result of those commands
[04:53] <Avenger143221> flickering like its trying to connect and it disconnects and quits
[04:53] <theadmin> Avenger143221: Just go and ping it
[04:53] <Avenger143221> ok
[04:53] <FoolsRun> Avenger: are you sure you can get an IP from this ethernet connection? If you were in Windows before it would have defaulted to using the wifi connection for everything.
[04:53] <Avenger143221> brb again then i cant have internet on both ocmputers at the same time
[04:53] <Avenger143221> no i can use the ethernet in windows perfectly
[04:54] <Monona> FoolsRun: I should run fsck from a boot cd, then?
[04:54] <FoolsRun> Avenger: not to beat a horse, but you're _sure_ it's ethernet and not the wireless in Windows?
[04:54] <theadmin> FoolsRun: You are wrong, Windows defaults to ethernet if it's actually present
[04:54] <FoolsRun> Monona: is it your boot drive you need to fsck?
[04:54] <theadmin> FoolsRun: Just like, well, every other sane OS
[04:55] <Avenger143221> both work in windows... so i dont understand
[04:55] <Avenger143221> anyways im going to try to ping and i will brb
[04:56] <Monona> FoolsRun: I should do my external hard drive, and also my hard drive.  I'll try that on the external drive first.
[04:58] <Avenger14322> pinging wont work.. says unknown host
[04:59] <holben> is 'iw' the replacement for 'wireless-tools'?
[04:59] <FoolsRun> theadmin: I'm double-checking but I'm really sure that Windows prioritizes wireless connections over wired
[05:00] <nixjr> why would df and nautilus be giving me different figures for my free space?
[05:02] <Avenger14322> is it possible i can download the wirelesslinux driver.. i believe its broadcom... and put it on my flash drive and install it on my laptop... like i can do in windows?
[05:02] <needhelp1> can anyone tell me if the ubuntu certified professional certification is still obtainable ?
[05:02] <needhelp1> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntucert
[05:02] <needhelp1> all i can find
[05:02] <FoolsRun> Avenger: technically yes, but it'd be way easier if we could get your ethernet working and you could just run the restricted drivers tool
[05:03] <Avenger14322> ya but im wondering if its too hard to figure out the ethernet and if it may save time to just get the wireless drivers
[05:03] <Avenger14322> unless you disagree and can help me further
[05:03] <FoolsRun> Avenger: the weird thing is ethernet really should Just Work. What's the laptop model again?
[05:03] <oooaaaooo> hi guys, i have a laptop with 11.04 installed. I want to get the wireless drivers installed for it but it doesnt have hardwired access to the network. Can I download and install the packages(if any) offline?
[05:04] <DDR> Hello. Trying the live boot CD from the website on my laptop, 11.04 64-bit version, and it won't boot up. It gets stuck trying and failing to load CUPS. Next, it froze my computer's bootloader. Got stuck at 'Press f2 for setup.' forever. Worked again when I manually ejected the disk, so I put the disk back in and tried the 'check disk for errors' option. It worked for a moment, stood still,...
[05:04] <DDR> ...and it just powered the computer off. Any tips?
[05:04] <Avenger14322> Aspire 5750-6589
[05:04] <Northwoods> when i try to save a file in my  /var/www/test.php , it doesn't let me save it says permission denied , i have only one login i.e Northwoods , which is probably should have admin rights
[05:04] <Northwoods> what should i check or do ?
[05:04] <oooaaaooo> its a acer travelmate 2410 btw
[05:04] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: you may have to use sudo
[05:05] <Avenger14322> another acer aye
[05:05] <Northwoods> sudo in terminal window ?
[05:05] <holben> is 'iw' the replacement for 'wireless-tools'?
[05:05] <Avenger14322> i have the same issue oooaaaooo with ethernet not working
[05:05] <Northwoods> FoolsRun: ^
[05:05] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: or gksudo in X
[05:05] <Avenger14322> but mines not a travelmate still acer tho
[05:05] <Northwoods> FoolsRun: let me try
[05:05] <DDR> Oh, thanks Northwoods, I'm using an acer... uhm... 7735.
[05:06] <oooaaaooo> Avenger14322: i dont know if the ethernet works or not , the system just doesnt have physical access to the network. Only wireless
[05:06] <Avenger14322> oo ok
[05:06] <Avenger14322> nvm then
[05:06] <ajay> hello i have an issue using ubuntu one on Xubuntu any help?
[05:07] <ljsoftnet> ajay whats the issue?
[05:07] <Northwoods> FoolsRun: i did gksudo , it brings up a window to do a TASK as root , but i want to login into my desktop enviorment as ROOT ?
[05:07] <ajay> it says auth_failed
[05:08] <ljsoftnet> ajay maybe you have a wrong password?
[05:08] <Northwoods> ljsoftnet: ^
[05:08] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: you want to save your file as root. Well, sorta. The problem is that your user doesn't have rights to /var/www. That's normal.
[05:08] <Avenger14322> i have googled   ubuntu and the aspire 5750....  but nothing with a problem with ethernet and my model...   just nothing at all with ubuntu and my model
[05:08] <ljsoftnet> Northwoods ?
[05:08] <Northwoods> FoolsRun: yes , but how do i login as ROOt?
[05:08] <ajay> no i entered it right and it is also added in the list of machines in my account while checking with firefox
[05:08] <Northwoods> When i haven't even set any passwords for root
[05:09] <Northwoods> su - in terminal window ?
[05:09] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: you could just sudo mkdir /var/www/Northwoods    and then    chown it to your name, then save stuff there
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, I just figured out why my card reader wasn't working last night....
[05:10] <Northwoods> What if i have to do everything again and again , i mean what if i want to login as root permanently ?
[05:10] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: you can't, or shouldn't. You should run as a limited user unless you actually need to do something as root. Then you can sudo
[05:10] <FoolsRun> Avenger14322:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1818976
[05:11] <Northwoods> FoolsRun: sudo mkfile /var/www/ this means that i will have to use X everytime i have to make a new file for my project
[05:12] <Stupp> hi, I need help to get timidity working with pulseaudio
[05:12] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: sudo mkdir /var/www/your_folder_name
[05:12] <Avenger14322> o ok... i see ...   it was for 10.04 and i have 11.04 so thought it wouldnt apply.. maybe i should of actually opened the link...
[05:12] <raQi> Probably should know this, but just to be 100% sure: Does Ubuntu make similiar MRU lists as Windows, e.g. recently viewed images?
[05:12] <Avenger14322> thankyou
[05:12] <Northwoods> FoolsRun: did that , but it wont  let me paste any files into this folder even
[05:12] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: did you chown it to your user?
[05:13] <Northwoods> nopes , sorry let me try
[05:13] <ajay> ljsoftnet any suggestions?
[05:13] <FoolsRun> Northwoods:  sudo chown northwoods /var/www/foldername
[05:13] <ljsoftnet> ajay i think it has a recover password, click on it
[05:14] <dfcnvt> I'm planning on going to install a webserver on my laptop directly for an expermentation purpose. I wonder do you know of any framework that does that?
[05:14] <ajay> but i do not think there is an issue with the account password.
[05:15] <zapman> Hi guys, can anyone get bitmap fonts such as console-terminus working in OpenOffice.org? (Ubuntu version: 10.04).
[05:15] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: here's an even better option,  http://heriman.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/enabling-apache-user-home-public_html-directory-in-ubuntu/
[05:15] <ajay> i remove the device from my account and try reconnecting with the client my system gets added.
[05:16] <Northwoods> FoolsRun: yes it worked ,
[05:16] <dumbo88> dfcnvt: ubuntu server ?
[05:16] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: the userdir mod for Apache, which should ship disabled with Ubuntu, will let you work in /home/Northwoods/public_html
[05:17] <dfcnvt> I mean, any framework that perform less? I'm planning on going to install in my laptop, meaning I'm not expecting to have more than 5 user on my webserver.
[05:17] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: which would be available at http://hostname/~yourname
[05:17] <dfcnvt> dumbo88, no just ubuntu desktop
[05:17] <Northwoods> FoolsRun: yes link you sent , seems to be solution to my problem
[05:17] <Northwoods> let me check it
[05:17] <dfcnvt> dumbo88, I will plan on going to install whichever package is needed for my laptop.
[05:17] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: not sure if you have to make the public_html folder yourself or not
[05:17] <jasef> You do,
[05:17] <jasef> At least on debian you do
[05:18] <ajay> ljsoftnet:i even ran a script put on the faq of ubuntu one and it showed errors
[05:18] <Northwoods> i have a www dir already , i just have to update it into apache.confg
[05:18] <dumbo88> most livecd s have some type of webwerver, what else ?
[05:19] <FoolsRun> Northwoods: good luck! I'm out for the night.
[05:19] <ajay> ljsoftnet:Tomboy GConf returned no tokens, skipping.Testing Ubuntu SSO Service token:  ERROR: 400 /!\ WARNING: Time difference is 20258 seconds. Authentication may fail.Ubuntu One-specific gnome-keyring returned no tokens, skipping.Visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ/HowDoICheckOAuthTokens tofind out what this means.
[05:19] <dfcnvt> dumbo88: No, I'd like to install on my laptop. Ah, nevermind, I'll just keep on researching on google.
[05:21] <dfcnvt> I came up with a package, "thin" it's a high performance http webserver.. So, I'll play with that.
[05:21] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: what was it?
[05:21] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, in short, the device was working just fine...it's simply obsolete....
[05:22] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: were you able to end up making it work with ubuntu/be useful?
[05:22] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, I realized every card I was trying was SD HC, as soon as I put a standard SD card in, it auto mounted....
[05:22] <dumbo88> dfcnvt if you want to promote it, why not prep a package ?
[05:23] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: Ah. So does that mean it was the card reader and not linux (does it do this in windows?)?
[05:25] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, I'll have to try, fortunately this computer dual boots Ubuntu and Vista, so I can load in there, try a few cards, and see what happens...but at least in Linux, it looks like the firmware simply can't handle the HC cards
[05:27] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, it's a known issue with older SD card readers, and generally there's no solution but replacement....
[05:30] <ajay> hello i have an issue using ubuntu one on Xubuntu any help?
[05:35] <DominosPizza> Hello.  I'm thinking about using LTS versions of ubuntu.  However, is there something special I'd be missing out on if I use the LTS versions ? Any fancy new software or anything that would make me go "jolly, I wish I had that version instead" ?
[05:36] <Stanley00> DominosPizza: LTS is for stable, if you want new software, ues the newest ubuntu version
[05:36] <Stanley00> !LTS | DominosPizza
[05:36] <RobbieCrash> DominosPizza: check this out http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-ubuntu-10-10-and-vs-ubuntu-11-04/
[05:36] <DominosPizza> yeah I know what LTS is
[05:37] <gregoryws> Anybody here familiar with SAMBA/filesharing on 11.04?
[05:37] <DominosPizza> RobbieCrash: that's more what i'm looking for
[05:37] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws what do you need
[05:37] <RobbieCrash> ?
[05:37] <DominosPizza> RobbieCrash: but that's 10.10 vs 11.04..
[05:37] <RobbieCrash> DominosPizza I'm not sure what all is different on the desktop end, but from what I understand, Unity is new and wonderful/awful, Ubuntu One seems nice.
[05:39] <DominosPizza> RobbieCrash: seems they are claiming to have a better preformance when 11.04 hits due to the new kernels.
[05:39] <gregoryws> to RobbieCrash  Have a weird problem between two samba/PC's
[05:39] <RobbieCrash> ok?
[05:40] <gregoryws> Each has apparently working samba smbclient shows both machines on each side
[05:40] <RobbieCrash> DominosPizza probably in many areas, but depending on the machine you're running it on, you may not notice many of them.
[05:40] <RobbieCrash> ok
[05:40] <DominosPizza> RobbieCrash: E2200 + 4670 + 2GBs of 667MHz DDR2
[05:40] <gregoryws> but only the "Master" can access ANY share, and then only the local one...
[05:41] <PMello> masters, anyone knows why pidgin not connect to MOC, with error "Read error", and after i retry reconnect  so many times and accept the certificate, i can connect normally?
[05:41] <RobbieCrash> what are the permissions on the files, and how did you share them?
[05:42] <DominosPizza> RobbieCrash: perhaps I'll just download the LTS version, see if I'm happy with it.. go from there ?
[05:42] <arovij> glebihan : ping.
[05:42] <karen_m> why not go with the latest?
[05:42] <karen_m> forget LTS
[05:42] <gregoryws> using a "Public" folder shared through the stock "one-click" sharing options in nautilus
[05:42] <RobbieCrash> DominosPizza noting wrong with that.
[05:42] <DominosPizza> karen_m: I don't want to be bothered with updating every 6 months.
[05:43] <karen_m> you'll need to go latest anyways for newer hardware and wifi
[05:43] <karen_m> DominosPizza, you'll update 4 times a month anyways.
[05:43] <DominosPizza> DominosPizza: not the distro
[05:43] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws what error do you get when trying?
[05:43] <karen_m> DominosPizza, on 10*, my wifi would drop.  Now on 11, it's rock solid
[05:43] <karen_m> think about that for a second :)
[05:44] <DominosPizza> karen_m: use wired.
[05:44] <arovij> Hi I am having problem with correct entries in my sources.list file. Here is my problem and list of commands I ran in detail http://pastebin.com/EiYncaVY . thanks for help.
[05:44] <karen_m> DominosPizza, it will say "there is an update, would you like to proceed." click it and you're done
[05:44] <karen_m> what's hard about that? :)
[05:45] <karen_m> oh well, got LTS
[05:45] <karen_m> go
[05:45] <gregoryws> In Nautilus it only gets as far as the Workgroup and then shows a dialog about Opening "Workgroup"
[05:45] <RobbieCrash> arovij are you sure the package is just called firefox? Not, firefox_x86 or something similar?
[05:45] <gregoryws> Evetually fails to mount and cant retrieve share list from serfver
[05:46] <DominosPizza> karen_m: *shrug*.  I'm just looking to get off XP on this 'general usage machine' without paying for Win7 32bit since it seems dumb to pay for an OS I wont be using games on anymore.
[05:46] <arovij> RobbieCrash : I am following this link https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Simple_Firefox_build
[05:46] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws what changes have you made to your smb.conf?
[05:46] <karen_m> DominosPizza, trust me, go 11 and you'll love it
[05:46] <karen_m> i quit doing win7 about 2 years ago and never looked back, it's awesome
[05:47] <karen_m> and when an upgrade is available, the same box will pop up and say "would you like to upgrade" .. .press it and answer a few questions ... reboot and you're on the latest
[05:47] <karen_m> ubuntu is on every computer i own
[05:47] <RobbieCrash> arovij but you're installing from a ppa, not from the default repository
[05:47] <karen_m> virtualbox runs win7, so if i need to do anything in windows i pull up my virtualbox
[05:47] <Girly-Girl> karen_m: #ubuntu-offropic maybe
[05:47] <DominosPizza> It can't be on every computer I own, cause the i5 + 6850 has to be the gaming machine now.. This machine wouldn't pull GTA4 and Metro2033 for jack.
[05:48] <karen_m> Girly-Girl, do you speak english?  We're talking about ubuntu and which one he should decide.  If that's off topic, would you like to discuss poker?
[05:48] <arovij> RobbieCrash : Please help me with making correct entries in sources.list. Those entries are a result of trial and error.
[05:48] <gregoryws> One machine has stock smb.conf file, that I manually added one share to, and the other share was created through Nautilus.  The other is stock all the way.
[05:49] <DominosPizza> karen_m: I doubt even intel verterilazation or AMD-V/SMV would run games well in a virtual machine..
[05:49] <RobbieCrash> arovij you stated you can't update due to legacy reasons, I can't give you a list of repositories that are safe for you to use. It would probably be easier to download firefox source and build from source
[05:50] <karen_m> DominosPizza, i have not tried that.  for gaming, i reboot... I've got an i5 with 6990, and if i want to game I reboot into windows.  grub ftw
[05:50] <gregoryws> Each machine will behave one of two eays, depending directly on if it is currently the "Master" Samaba server...
[05:50] <karen_m> !firefox7
[05:50] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws what do you mean by master?
[05:50] <Girly-Girl> karen_m: Still its not ubuntu support
[05:50] <DominosPizza> 6990? must have robbed a bank and known a guy that works at your lightbill company.
[05:50] <arovij> RobbieCrash : That's exactly what I am trying to do but issue is the site states I need to to install some build tools for building firefox
[05:51] <Girly-Girl> karen_m: Support = help to resolve problems with Ubuntu
[05:51] <karen_m> won it lol  ... DominosPizza have a good one... conversation is over :)
[05:51] <gregoryws> With "SMB" one machine always becomes the "Master" and all other samba servers are subbordinate.
[05:51] <DominosPizza> the dots make it over........................ I guess..........................
[05:52] <karen_m> Girly-Girl has a problem with our conversation
[05:52] <RobbieCrash> arovij, do you have build-dep installed?
[05:52] <RobbieCrash> try just doing apt-get install build-dep
[05:52] <gregoryws> If I restart one PC running a SMB share (SAMBA), the other usually assumes "Master"
[05:52] <glebihan> arovij, first thing, there are no packages for hardy at all in that ppa
[05:52] <Girly-Girl> karen_m: DominosPizza I did not want to be rude or anything, its just better not to clutter this channel so people generally talk about such things in offtopic or by pm
[05:53] <DominosPizza> If I stopped conversating on IRC or real life cause someone didn't like my conversation or had a problem with me , and everyone did it there wouldn't be any conversations. :_/
[05:53] <arovij> RobbieCrash let me try that and get back. glebihan : i was using http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php to generate my sources.list entries
[05:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Has anyone used centerim and irssi or weechat?
[05:54] <arovij> glebihan : sorry it's this one.. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[05:54] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws ok, can you browse smb shares on localhost from either of the machines
[05:55] <Girly-Girl> Hi I have kubuntu 11.04. Aparently something removed kde-workspace packages. I am stuck without GUI now as KDM will not login to anything. I know how to fix this but I need an Internet connection. How can I connect to a 802.11g WPA-PSK wireless network from command line?
[05:55] <gregoryws> Only the one who is currently the "MASTER", and then only it's own local shares...
[05:56] <glebihan> arovij, well I don't know exactly how this site works, but it doesn't really matter
[05:56] <RobbieCrash> so Master can browse its own shares, but not slave's and slave cannot browse either? Does it matter who the master is?
[05:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Girly-Girl I'm running off a machine with no X either
[05:56] <arovij> glebihan : ok..
[05:56] <glebihan> arovij, as I said there are no packages for hardy in the ppa you added, and there is no chance you'll ever get to build firefox 10 for it
[05:57] <RobbieCrash> Girly-Girl is the network encrypted?
[05:57] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: Yes
[05:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Going to irssi, be right back
[05:57] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: Like I said 802.11g WPA-PSK
[05:58] <arovij> glebihan : I can't build this on later versions of ubuntu.. I have to build with 6.06 ... what entries can I make?
[05:58] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash is there a difference between browsing the SAMBA share normally and doing it through localhost?
[05:59] <glebihan> arovij, nothing you can do. It simply won't work. And why adding a hardy repository on 6.06 ? Why do you need to build for that version
[05:59] <glebihan> ?
[05:59] <Girly-Girl> Ideas for wireless?
[06:00] <th0r> Girly-Girl: you can configure the network in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and /etc/network/interfaces, then use ifup to bring it up
[06:00] <RobbieCrash> Girly-Girl, assuming eth0, all commands are sudo, ifdown eht0; dhclient -r eth0; ifup eth0, iwconfig eth0 essid "SSID"; iwconfig eth0 key HEXKEYNOTASCII | iwconfig eth0 key s:ASCIIKEY
[06:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> mucho better
[06:00] <arovij> glebihan : I have to make some changes for firefox and later deploy it on some 100 odd machines.. Now these machines use very old version of linux. i have to replicate the same enviornment in my machine..
[06:00] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: Does it have to be in ASCI?
[06:01] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws it just goes out over the network that way, rather than just browsing through the file explorer.
[06:01] <RobbieCrash> Girly-Girl the last one is OR, not both
[06:02] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: OR???
[06:02] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, yep, tried in Vista, the regular SD card loaded right up, the SDHC card was totally ignored...
[06:02] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: Ah. That's a bummer, but at least it isn't an unfixable ubuntu quirk :)
[06:02] <RobbieCrash> Girly-Girl the | for or
[06:02] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: ok
[06:03] <glebihan> arovij, well 6.06 is way outdated... and not supported at all. The thing to do is either upgrade those machines or stick with old versions of firefox
[06:03] <RobbieCrash> so you either do iwconfig eth0 key HEXKEY, OR you do iwconfig eth0 key s:ASCIIKEY
[06:03] <DDR> Hm, kubuntu's live CD doesn't want to even start booting, here...
[06:03] <DDR> This installation thing is kinda hard. :(
[06:03] <arovij> glebihan : you are right. ok let me try putting some sense in my seniors.. Thanks for your time :)
[06:04] <dummy> question
[06:04] <glebihan> arovij, you're welcome
[06:04] <RobbieCrash> Girly-Girl if you're not using ASCII, don't do anything before the key, if you are you need to put "s:" before the key
[06:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> I should actually learn command line wifi
[06:04] <dummy> quicktime for linux?
[06:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> never had to yet
[06:04] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: I guess I must replace eth0 with wlan0?
[06:05] <RobbieCrash> yes
[06:05] <RobbieCrash> and make sure you put sudo before each command
[06:05] <dummy> something to convert video files
[06:05] <RobbieCrash> I just am lazy
[06:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> dummy: handbrake
[06:05] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash as far as I can see the local shares are only browsable on the machine that is "Master".
[06:05] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: I'm on windows now, I will make it into a script and reboot then
[06:05] <dummy> handbrake 4 linux?
[06:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> dummy: avidemux
[06:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> dummy: handbreak for linux yes...but i'm not sure if it's in the repos yet.  I'd check but i'm in tty right now
[06:06] <RobbieCrash> Girly-Girl good luck
[06:06] <dummy> I use avidmux..I need to make quicktime conversion
[06:07] <dummy> waaah
[06:07] <dummy> brb
[06:07] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/702595/
[06:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i'm not sure i can talk about handbreak here seeing that it's not in the repos and is considered 3rd party app.  but I use it and it's great.
[06:08] <dummy> yep gonna try it now
[06:08] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash smbclient -L localhost -U% indicates that each server is aware of each other, but smbclient -L "other-server" ends in connection failed (Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL).
[06:09] <dfcnvt> ...I forgot how to set up init
[06:09] <dfcnvt> I have two files already placed in two different directory
[06:10] <dfcnvt> one of them in /etc/init.d/
[06:10] <dfcnvt> another in /opt/script
[06:10] <gregoryws> dummy Handbrake is in the repos, I use it often
[06:10] <dfcnvt> how do I start init ?
[06:10] <gregoryws> dummy sorry, Handbrake is in a ppa
[06:10] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws what version of Ubuntu?
[06:10] <dummy> okay going to log into launchpad and get handbrake
[06:10] <dummy> yea ppa from launchpad
[06:11] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash Ubuntu 11.04
[06:11] <RobbieCrash> Girly-Girl yes, but replace SSID and HEXKEY with yours, obviously.
[06:11] <dummy> I luv linux
[06:11] <dfcnvt> I have a script in my /opt directory and a proper init file in /etc/init.d directory... How do I run init to say I have a new script here please run them every boot.
[06:11] <Girly-Girl> RobbieCrash: Thanks for your help
[06:12] <dummy> repos?
[06:13] <gregoryws> dummy I can say that the Handbrake ppa has been one of the few reliable things for me with 11.04
[06:13] <PanArtur> dfcnvt: update-rc [scriptname] defaults
[06:13] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws can you enable guest access to the shares and test that?
[06:13] <dummy> I am all ears
[06:13] <RobbieCrash> Girly-Girl you're welcome
[06:14] <dummy> video transcoder
[06:14] <dummy> avidmux vs handbrake
[06:14] <dfcnvt> PanArtur: I recently tried out your command, found out update-rc isn't in ubuntu
[06:15] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws unfortunately, that smb error is the generic one, so it's hard to troubleshoot.
[06:15] <dfcnvt> PanArtur: Would update-rc.d do?
[06:16] <PanArtur> dfcnvt: ooo my mistake. yes
[06:16] <RobbieCrash> can you grep through /var/log/samba/log.OTHERHOST
[06:16] <PanArtur>  dfcnvt rc.d
[06:16] <dfcnvt> to be sure.. does it have to be a script file or init file?
[06:17] <PanArtur> dfcnvt: I think it could be symlink
[06:17] <dfcnvt> okay, how do I undo them?
[06:17] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash don't I know it.  It took me two days to get the first smb share going on my desktop.  I'd swear that UBU11.04 samba doesn't behave the way stock samba is supposed to.  I finally managed to get it to where I could access it repeatedly from other windows/ubuntu pc's on my lan.  But today, it's not even browsable..
[06:18] <you2> right
[06:19] <PanArtur> dfcnvt: use disable instead defaults - read man update-rc.d
[06:19] <dummy> ty
[06:19] <dfcnvt> gotcha
[06:19] <dfcnvt> thanks
[06:20] <glebihan> dfcnvt, is your script just a task to run on boot or really a service ?
[06:20] <gregoryws> dummy what's your target viewing platform?
[06:21] <dfcnvt> It's a firewall script.
[06:21] <dummy> well, to make a long story short...I have ubuntu at home and mac at school.
[06:22] <glebihan> dfcnvt, ok but is it just something that needs to be run one time on boot, or does it keep running in background afterwards ?
[06:22] <dummy> I need quicktime.  I don't have windows anymore...waaah.
[06:22] <dfcnvt> I'd like to have my firewall to run at all time.
[06:22] <dfcnvt> So, run on boot every time.
[06:23] <dummy> windows withdrawals
[06:24] <glebihan> dfcnvt, you didn't really answer my question. Does you script just do some initializations or does it keep running ?
[06:24] <gregoryws> dummy do you need to convert files to watch them on the mac or convert to watch on the UBUNTU?
[06:25] <dummy> I am going to install the ppa handbrake like you said awhile back
[06:25] <dfcnvt> glebihan, both, this script requires a boot everytime the machine run. Meaning, it keep running in the background.
[06:25] <RobbieCrash> gregoryws and you haven't changed any of your smb.conf or iptables, or installed any firewalls or anything?
[06:25] <RobbieCrash> on either box?
[06:26] <dfcnvt> glebihan: So, assuming this line, "update-rc.d firewall defaults" is what I want it to do.
[06:27] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash not since it last worked across my network.  And I haven't touched my iptables.  I didn't even know what UFW was, till I ran down a T/S lead.
[06:27] <dfcnvt> glebihan, not to be confused, this script run once for iptables to set up the configuration. This script doesn't require a long running in the background.
[06:28] <dummy> how do I install a ppa?
[06:28] <dfcnvt> glebihan: maybe that is answering your question?
[06:28] <dummy> oof
[06:28] <glebihan> dfcnvt, err, well not really. You just told be that it both kept running in background and did not. Which one is it ?
[06:29] <gregoryws> dummy can you, or, have you included med-buntu in your repo list?
[06:29] <gregoryws> medibuntu
[06:29] <dummy> no
[06:29] <dummy> I    will look now
[06:30] <dfcnvt> glebihan, let me be clear again. This script only need to run once at the boot up.
[06:30] <gregoryws> There are alot of "grey-area" packages for video playback.  There isn't a video I  haven't been able to play on my Ubuntu pc.  Medi-buntu might be your ticket..
[06:30] <dummy> no medibuntu
[06:30]  * rhin0 never had a problem with vid on ubuntu
[06:30] <rhin0> use totem
[06:30] <glebihan> dfcnvt, ok then the simplest way is just to put a line to run that script in /etc/rc.local
[06:30] <rhin0> or use ..
[06:30] <rhin0> whats the name --- the player
[06:31] <rhin0> plays eveyhting
[06:31] <dfcnvt> ..Okay, I'll check
[06:31] <dummy> found medibuntu in launchpad
[06:31] <dummy> okay load medibuntu first
[06:31] <dummy> ?
[06:32] <gregoryws> dummy google medibuntu  the homepage has instructions on how to add it.
[06:33] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash  would simply enabling guest accounts through the smb.conf be the way to check what you suggested earlier?
[06:33] <dummy> nice..you have more than answered my questions..
[06:35] <keyzs> can anyone tell me how i open port for utorrent on ubuntu 11.04
[06:35] <keyzs> on firewall
[06:35] <dfcnvt> glebihan: Am I to understand the purpose of rc.local is to run at the end of the booting's sequence?
[06:36] <gregoryws> dummy finding the right packages sometimes takes trial and error.  I've found that different flavors of ubuntu (kubu, xub, ubu, etc) and different versions favor different media players.  DVD playback usually takes a little tinkering for example..
[06:36] <glebihan> dfcnvt, that's right
[06:36] <dummy> this is all new to me
[06:36] <dfcnvt> glebihan, thanks... I think I'm interested in learning more about rc
[06:36] <dummy> but it certainly is more fun that windows
[06:37] <dummy> there is no way I would have found this chat on windows
[06:37] <glebihan> dfcnvt, that may not be such a good idea actually (I mean to learn too much about it). It's not deprecated on ubuntu and is only still there for compatibility reasons
[06:37] <glebihan> dfcnvt, the init process is now handled by upstart, so this is probably what you'll want to learn about
[06:37] <dummy> giggle
[06:38] <glebihan> meant "it's *now* deprecated"
[06:40] <dummy> ty and goodnight from ca
[06:40] <jasef> First time I've heard about upstart.... time to research.
[06:40] <dfcnvt> glebihan: I might be interested in making my own distro, say, gentoo... Would this learning process require me to understand rc?
[06:42] <dfcnvt> glebihan, nvrmnd, it's just a substitution is all you're saying.. rc --> upstart. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[06:42] <xgt001> any cpu frequency selector for unity?
[06:44] <dfcnvt> Alright, I'm out. thanks anyway
[06:47] <xgt001> how do i set cpu frequency in unity? in natty/oneiric
[06:48] <ABi1> hiii
[06:48] <orated> Even after usinf autoclean, clean and autoremove, I keep getting E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.n/ is 2.4GB Can anyone  suggest any resolution please?
[06:49] <ABi1> gnome 3 not working in vmware workstation 8
[06:50] <xgt001> ABi1, are you on oneiric or natty?
[06:50] <ABi1> natty
[06:51] <BiKER-JENS> Hallo :)
[06:51] <xgt001> did u install vmware equivalent of guest additions and try?
[06:51] <BiKER-JENS> I've been trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 server LTS on a FITPC2i
[06:51] <ABi1> yes
[06:51] <BiKER-JENS> And I have some problems with GRUP
[06:51] <BiKER-JENS> It will only work if - have a usb stick in
[06:52] <BiKER-JENS> and GRUP is written on it
[06:52] <BiKER-JENS> i have 160 gb sata2 disk in
[06:52] <ollii> g'morning
[06:52] <BiKER-JENS> some one have clue howto make it boot from harddrive and not the usb-stick
[06:52] <ollii> are there some problems with the apt host: 91.189.92.171 ?
[06:52] <PanArtur> orated: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/arcives*.deb
[06:52] <ollii> samba packages seem to be missing
[06:52] <PanArtur> orated: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[06:53] <ABi1> any solution to run gnome 3 in vmware
[06:53] <xgt001> ABi1, i think it requires hardware accelaration anyways...most likely wont work..is fallback mode workingh
[06:54] <biborn> cannot run?
[06:54] <PanArtur> BiKER-JENS: run ubuntu from pendrive open terminal and enter sudo grub-instal /dev/sda
[06:54] <ABi1> xgt001 i m usin intel 965 chipset
[06:54] <ollii> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.8_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.171 80]
[06:55] <orated> PanArtur: Its empty
[06:56] <PanArtur> orated: du -hs /path/to/directory - and check
[06:57] <orated> PanArtur: How much space is assigned to / with installer selected for guided/auti installation?
[06:58] <xgt001> ABi1, apparently vmware and gnome 3 dont go well... but virtualbox DOES work well with guest additions recently
[06:58] <xgt001> ABi1, did u check if hardware accelaration is enabled for your vm?
[06:58] <orated> PanArtur: 8.0K    /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:58] <bhavesh> I want to Uninstall Ubuntu, should I just delete the linux partition, and follow the three commands for Uninstalling GRUB using Linux from a live Ubuntu USB?
[06:59] <bhavesh> that will boot me into windows by default?
[06:59] <bhavesh> here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-uninstall-grub/
[06:59] <ardithoxha> hey guys, how to go to change SYSTEM SOUND like when shut down or logging in!
[06:59] <dummy> greg
[06:59] <dummy> just one last comment
[07:00] <susundberg> bhavesh: umm the 'dd' command will really un-install the boot loader of any kind -- your system wont boot after that
[07:00] <Northwoods> how do i search a string in vi editor ?
[07:00] <dummy> I found a site compilelinux
[07:00] <susundberg> bhavesh: use windows installation / repair disk or similar
[07:00] <ardithoxha> hey guys, how to go to change SYSTEM SOUND like when shut down or logging in!
[07:00] <rumba> Has anyone manged to run Portal 2 in Windows 7 in Virtualbox?
[07:00] <bhavesh> susundberg: So,, is there any linux command for it?
[07:01] <bhavesh> ok
[07:01] <susundberg> bhavesh: well linux does not contain windows bootloader so no afaik
[07:01] <xgt001> ardithoxha, sound effects under the sound indicator menu
[07:01] <dummy> adding handbrake now and chatting in another terminal
[07:01] <bhavesh> susundberg: ok
[07:01] <susundberg> bhavesh: i guess somebody has done such (didn't google for that though) but using windows installation disk is just easier i would say
[07:02] <bhavesh> alright
[07:02] <orated> bhavesh: And after that if you want to boot directly into Windows after deleting linux partition, you will have to fix the mbr
[07:02] <dummy> ok bye for now
[07:02] <ardithoxha> xgt001: but where, preferences> or administatration>
[07:03] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash enabled guest access to my share on one box, and cannot access it from the other.
[07:03] <bhavesh> orated: ok
[07:03] <gregoryws> LOL anyone know a good technical book on linux networking?
[07:05] <orated> PanArtur: ?
[07:07] <ardithoxha> hey, how to change sound schemes? preferences or administration?
[07:07] <orated> PanArtur: I'm stuck with that error. I cannot install or upgrade ...
[07:08] <xgt001> ardithoxha, sorry for late reply... under preferences
[07:09] <ardithoxha> xgt001: f*** I have made like Windows 7 and dont know which is? what is named?
[07:09] <Northwoods> Why does my ubuntu doesn't let me create folders or files in /home/ directory through GUI ?
[07:09] <Northwoods> not through X
[07:10] <xgt001> ardithoxha, are you on 10.10 or 10.04?
[07:10] <ardithoxha> xgt001: im 10.10
[07:10] <mekwall> hmm, for some reason Ubuntu doesn't remember my ssh passwords. what could be the reason for this?
[07:10] <xgt001> Northwoods, are u referring to /home/user or just /home directory
[07:10] <mekwall> keeps asking me for passwords when autofs is remouting my ssh mounts
[07:10] <jasef> Northwoods, /home is owned by root, I think, and /home/<user> is owned by the user
[07:11] <Northwoods> xgt001: you mean i need to create a user /home/user/  , then i can create files and folders under it ?
[07:11] <jasef> mekwall, have you tried using keys for autoauth? I don't think it does remember SSH passwords.
[07:12] <mekwall> jasef: I am using password protected keys
[07:12] <jasef> mekwall, Oh... I'm not sure about it remembering those - I use keys without a password so I don't have to enter anything to connect
[07:12] <jasef> >.>
[07:12] <xgt001> Northwoods, see if your user name is sample then the home  will have /home/sample directory where you have the full access to create anything
[07:12] <bhavesh> susundberg: But can't I use the second command # dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1 ? Because the statement above it says "Just remove MBR, without the partition table "
[07:13] <mekwall> jasef: heh... well, it's for remote access to corporate servers so I have to have passwords on the keys ;)
[07:13] <bhavesh> susundberg: Just because I dont currently have windows DVD :(
[07:13] <xgt001> Northwoods, you cant modify /home folder
[07:13] <somsip> mekwall: that's what password protected kets do. You'll have to regen them without keys to avoid that
[07:13] <somsip> ...without passwords...
[07:13] <Northwoods> xgt001: thanks got it
[07:13] <mekwall> somsip: that can't be right...
[07:13] <anandvenkat4> Is there any way to differentiate between the ethernet, ppp and pptp interface in linux?
[07:14] <mekwall> somsip: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Ssh for example
[07:14] <susundberg> bhavesh: the dd command will erase the MBR -- that handles the booting of the machine -> your windows will not boot
[07:14] <mekwall> somsip: I've already added my keys with ssh-add
[07:14] <ardithoxha> xgt001: im 10.10 as said but what is name of that app for system scheme?
[07:14] <jasef> mekwall, Oh, okay. Sorry :( I dunno what to suggest, I don't have any experience with using passworded keys past that my SSH doesnt remember the passwords
[07:14] <bhavesh> susundberg: ok
[07:14] <susundberg> bhavesh: you can also write the grub such that it will boot directly to windows, and then from windows erase the linux partition
[07:15] <bhavesh> susundberg: For that I need to make sure my grub is installed on another partition .. so when I delete Linux partition, mu grub wont get deleted?
[07:15] <somsip> mekwall: and do they list when you ssh-add -l ?
[07:16] <mekwall> somsip: they sure do :)
[07:16] <gregoryws> Northwoods what are you whishing to do with your/home ?
[07:16] <xgt001> ardithoxha, sound preferences i think sorry not sure coz i am on 11.10
[07:16] <somsip> mekwall: and they have &.pub paired files...etc...?
[07:16] <susundberg> bhavesh: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1170-how-to-change-the-default-boot-order-for-grub2-in-ubuntu-1004-and-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat
[07:16] <kaushik_> is there any very good creator of html5 sheets for ubuntu
[07:16] <mekwall> jasef: removing passwords from keys is merely an insecure workaround :P
[07:16] <mekwall> somsip: indeed they do :)
[07:16] <anandvenkat4> Is there any way to differentiate between the ethernet, ppp and pptp interface in linux?
[07:17] <susundberg> bhavesh: afaik the grub is installed on MBR and not on any particular partition
[07:17] <xgt001> mekwall, did u try bluefish editor or even quanta plus
[07:17] <ajay> i have a prob running ubuntu one in xubuntu any help?
[07:17] <mekwall> somsip: have two keys for different server farms, and they both start with id_rsa_
[07:17] <bhavesh> susundberg: ok :)
[07:17] <xgt001> ajay, what problem
[07:17] <mekwall> somsip: and they have 0400 permissions
[07:18] <susundberg> bhavesh: but beware -- i am not sure about this -- this was the case with lilo and grub but i guess you are using grub2
[07:18] <mekwall> xgt001: think you got the wrong person ;)
[07:18] <ajay> xgt001:it shows auth_failed though the pass is right and my machine is added to the list on ma account
[07:18] <orated> susundberg: What if he tries to fix mbr directly after deleting linux partitions by using Windows recovery disc and running commands like bootrec.exe /fixmbr, /scanOS etc ... using command prompt?
[07:18] <somsip> mekwall: so you have a id_rsa_server1 (private key) and id_rsa_server1.pub for each in .ssh?
[07:18] <mekwall> somsip: yup
[07:18] <bhavesh> susundberg: yea im,.. it was installed with Ubuntu 11.10 beta 2
[07:18] <susundberg> orated: i suggested that, but he didnt have windows install disk
[07:19] <mekwall> somsip: the pubs are also added to authorized_keys
[07:19] <sajimon> hmm, how come i have latest version of ubuntu font family from gentoo portage and on ubuntu its still old version without mono and condensed variants, funny
[07:20] <mekwall> somsip: I am using autosshfs (https://github.com/hellekin/autosshfs)
[07:20] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[07:20] <somsip> mekwall: can you connect without passwords trying direct SSH?
[07:20] <mekwall> somsip: yeah, that works
[07:21] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Is there a web page how to install lilo on the installation of Ubuntu Server?
[07:21] <mekwall> somsip: but whenever its remounting it asks me for the pwd
[07:21] <somsip> mekwall: can you tail the sshd.log (or is it auth.log) to see whatthey error is when sshfs tries to connect?
[07:22] <Emmanuel_Chanel> If I install Ubuntu Server to my server PC, grub wouldn't work.
[07:22] <susundberg> orated: oh i guess he could have just booted to windows and run fixmbr from there?
[07:22] <orated> susundberg: Yes
[07:22] <ajay> xgt001:any advice?
[07:22] <mekwall> somsip: ah, good idea!
[07:23] <susundberg> orated: ups .. well i hope he survives
[07:23] <Velshtein> pardon me, would anyone be willing to help a newcomer to linux with a /dev/dm-0 issue?
[07:23] <susundberg> Velshtein: state your problem and we will see :)
[07:23] <Velshtein> Super. Give me a moment
[07:24] <mekwall> somsip: http://pastie.org/2642376 <-- replaced the host with ? for security reasons ;)
[07:24] <jasef> mekwall, :( getting me curious >>
[07:24] <ajay> i have a prob running ubuntu one in xubuntu any help?
[07:24] <mekwall> jasef: about? :)
[07:25] <rkhshm> I pulled in a torrent via vuze but the vuze interface is not opening on my machine. but i can see heavy netwrok activity(downdoing)
[07:25] <rkhshm> top does not show that vuze is runnig.
[07:25] <rkhshm> how do i get the interface?
[07:25] <somsip> mekwall: http://linuxindetails.wordpress.com/2009/12/30/gnome-keyring-daemon-unsupported-key-algorithm-in-certificate-1-2-840-10045-2-1/
[07:26] <mekwall> rkhshm: try with: ps aux|grep vuze
[07:26] <Velshtein> < mostly a windows user. Installed Ubuntu 11.04 as a dual-boot option to toy with (I always wanted to learn). Friend heard I had done it and wanted me to look at a clients hard drive that needed to be recovered, but he couldn't access it from windows.
[07:26] <Velshtein> Gave it to me, I plugged it in - shows up fine in the BIOS, but not at all in windows. Thought that odd, so booted into Ubuntu and took a look in Nautilus. Nothing. Ran a fdisk -l and it showed both of MY drives just fine, but this /dev/dm-0 in place of the new one.
[07:26] <jasef> mekwall, what host needs to be ?'d out for security :P
[07:26] <somsip> mekwall: suggest installing libpam-unix2 (shrugs)
[07:26] <gregoryws> RobbieCrash thanks for your time on my problem. I think I'm just going to have to scrap SAMBA and look at NFS or some other route.  I can't keep banging my head against a wall on a regular basis.
[07:26] <rkhshm> mekwall: yes its running..
[07:26] <rkhshm> but i dont have the UI
[07:26] <rkhshm> to see whats going on
[07:27] <rkhshm> all i can see is that its downloading something
[07:27] <mekwall> jasef: because its only used internally :)
[07:27] <Velshtein> (I should probably note that I understand little to none by way of linux lingo, so be gentle :))
[07:27] <jasef> >.> lol k
[07:27] <mekwall> jasef: and you never know what people is sitting here :)
[07:27] <rkhshm> mekwall: any ideas how to get back to UI
[07:28] <mekwall> rkhshm: uhm, so vuze gui is gone? :)
[07:28] <rkhshm> mekwall: lol.. yes
[07:28] <rkhshm> :)
[07:28] <rkhshm> mekwall: vuze is happily downloading something .. i dont even know what that is :)
[07:28] <mekwall> rkhshm: no idea, I don't use vuze :P
[07:28] <ABi1> so there is no way out to run gnome 3 in vmware
[07:29] <mekwall> vuze is a insanely bloated client
[07:29] <rkhshm> mekwall: transmission?
[07:29] <The_Phoenix> I'm seeing this guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer At the end, I see references to netboot folder in install. Which ISO is this tutorial referring to? I mounted the i386 iso on WinXP but I don't see netboot folder
[07:29] <mekwall> rkhshm: for local torrents, yes... otherwise rtorrent
[07:29] <rkhshm> ok
[07:29] <gregoryws> My first pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/702618/plain/
[07:30] <mekwall> rkhshm: you want to kill vuze?
[07:30] <mekwall> rkhshm: I bet thats the best way... kill it and start again :)
[07:30] <rkhshm> mekwall: yeah tryring it
[07:30] <gregoryws> Sigh, last time, lol, ANY SAMBA/UBUNTU filesharing gurus out there?
[07:31] <mekwall> rkhshm: try with killall vuze :D
[07:31] <ABi1> any way out to run gnome 3(ubuntu    11.04) as vmware client
[07:31] <mekwall> rkhshm: or killall -9 vuze if that doesn't work
[07:31] <The_Phoenix> gregoryws: am not a guru but I might be able to help
[07:31] <ajay> i have a prob running ubuntu one in xubuntu any help?
[07:31] <mekwall> ABi1: gnome 3 on 11.04 isn't very stable
[07:31] <rkhshm> why does pgrep vuze not show anything?
[07:31] <rkhshm> no PID
[07:31] <mekwall> ABi1: tried it before I went for 11.10 beta, which works so much better
[07:31] <rkhshm> and ps aux |grep vuze shows a PID but when i pkill it it says no such process??
[07:32] <rkhshm> weird
[07:32] <gregoryws> The_Phoenix it's pretty tough, I've spent over 5 hours and I'm not new to linux...
[07:32] <Velshtein> With a little research, I think my /dev/dm-0 drive is a LVM2 encrypted drive. I need to recover it. Anyone know how?
[07:32] <jasef> Wow... my window manager is bgging up... I think I better restart it -.-
[07:32] <mekwall> rkhshm: trying with sudo?
[07:33] <rkhshm> mekwall: yea
[07:33] <jasef> It keeps stopping me from alt-tabbing or switching windows until I right click around
[07:33] <mekwall> rkhshm: ps aux|grep vuze will show the grep command as well :P
[07:33] <mekwall> just so you know
[07:33] <rkhshm> mekwall: yeah i know
[07:33] <mekwall> rkhshm: what if you do killall -9 vuze?
[07:34] <rkhshm> vuze not found
[07:34] <rkhshm> but still there is network activity.
[07:34] <rkhshm> my ubuntu has gone bonkers
[07:34] <mekwall> rkhshm: do a which vuze
[07:34] <mekwall> rkhshm: so you know where its located
[07:34] <mekwall> then do killall <location of vuze>
[07:34] <rkhshm> /usr/bin/vuze
[07:34] <mekwall> killall -9 /usr/bin/vuze
[07:35] <rkhshm> no process found
[07:35] <rkhshm> hmm
[07:35] <mekwall> weird :)
[07:35] <rkhshm> yeah.
[07:35] <mekwall> rkhshm: and its still running?
[07:35] <rkhshm> mekwall: and a timely du -h on the vuze download folder shows the size increasing
[07:35] <rkhshm> ;)
[07:35] <mekwall> somsip: seems that libpam2 solved the problem :) big thanks! that pwd dialog was getting on my nerves
[07:35] <rkhshm> lol
[07:35] <mekwall> rkhshm: lol ok
[07:36] <somsip> mekwall: np - i learnt something about gnome-keyring too :)
[07:37] <mekwall> sometux: gnome-keyring is good shit :D
[07:37] <mekwall> oops
[07:37] <mekwall> somsip*
[07:37] <somsip> mekwall: I may look closer at it. ta
[07:37] <mekwall> somsip: btw, check out autosshfs if you do any ssh mounting
[07:38] <mekwall> when you do ls ~/mnt/ssh/domain.com it will automount domain.com :)
[07:38] <mekwall> no need for configs
[07:38] <vlt> Hello. When I open an .odt document in OOo 3.2.0 the program crashes after a few seconds. What to check first?
[07:38] <somsip> mekwall: thanks, but mostly I route via svn/git or scp odd files.
[07:38] <mekwall> somsip: ah, cool :)
[07:38] <rkhshm> mekwall: here is the best part.. I removed vuze pkg itself.. still there is network activity
[07:38] <rkhshm> ha ha
[07:39] <somsip> mekwall: will rmemeber for other time though
[07:39] <mekwall> rkhshm: usually, removing a package doesn't kill the process
[07:39] <farciarz84> Hi, I got some question. Having 64-bit ubuntu version, I need 32-bit gl libraries that wine requieres. Wine is 32-bit only. How to get 32 gl drivers working properly?
[07:39] <mekwall> rkhshm: it's still in memory :)
[07:39] <rkhshm> hmm..
[07:39] <gregoryws> SAMBA problem: Ubuntu 11.04 on 2 PCs; both running full SAMBA from 11.04 repos, smbclient of localhost proves both are aware of each other.  But only master can browse and only it's own shares, no matter which one is master at the time.
[07:39] <farciarz84> I guess multiarch is what for.
[07:39] <rkhshm> ok no choice but to reboot now
[07:40] <susundberg> Velshtein: if its encrypted, and you do not have the key, i would drop hopes for recovery
[07:41] <Velshtein> yikes. okay, well assume i acquire the key. what would i do from there?
[07:41] <susundberg> Velshtein: it might be possible, but as the encryption is designed to prevent that its not easy that job ..
[07:41] <Velshtein> yeah, i can understand why
[07:41] <BiKER-JENS> thank you sudo grub-install /dev/sda/ worked like a charm!
[07:42] <BiKER-JENS> Love you dudes ;)
[07:42] <susundberg> Velshtein: try 'sudo lvdisplay'
[07:43] <Velshtein> no volume groups found
[07:44] <Velshtein> here's the result of my sudo fdisk -l
[07:44] <Velshtein> http://pastebin.com/DLqWjkxU
[07:44] <susundberg> Velshtein: huh, i though the dm-0 would be lvm partition, but no .. (?)
[07:44] <Velshtein> i assumed it was based on research... maybe not?
[07:45] <Velshtein> again, i know nothing about the drive save that my BIOS read it, but windows can't, and it isn't showing up in nautilus either
[07:46] <Velshtein> susundberg: sorry, is proper etiquette to include the name of the person you're talking to?
[07:47] <jasef> Velshtein, sorry, I'm coming in late but... are you trying to keep some data on that drive or is it blank?
[07:47] <Velshtein> jasef: my friend would like me to recover data off of it for a client. family photos or something
[07:47] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[07:47] <susundberg> Velshtein: I am kind of out ideas what to do. I would probably try to dig up first why its a) showing up as dm-0 if its not LVM disk -- could it be that its encrypted disk with LVM and it shows in they way it does -- or is it maybe corrupted?
[07:48] <susundberg> Velshtein: oh good somebody else with more skillz is showing up
[07:48] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/sjMHTj58
[07:49] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: /dev/sda and dev/sdb are both my drives
[07:50] <dannN> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 Server on VirtualBox. How can i load a CD mounted to the virtual cd drive in command line?
[07:50] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: also note that this is a dual-boot machine. Those NTFS drives are for Win7
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: Can you pastebin the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/" ?
[07:51] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: jesus. yes. give me a second. lots of pretty colors
[07:51] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/iaY3hJun
[07:51] <Jordan_U> dannN: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/
[07:52] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: on that note, I see a mention of something being unformatted. Surely it would show up in Nautilus then?
[07:53] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: It looks like encrypted swap "cryptswap" which would mean that it has no files on it.
[07:53] <dannN> Jordan_U: thank you
[07:53] <Jordan_U> dannN: You're welcome.
[07:54] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: Interesting. He claims otherwise. Is there a reason it isn't showing up to mount?
[07:54] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: Or, assuming he's wrong, how would I access it to format it?
[07:55] <jasef> I just find it strange that it said it had an invalid partitioning table O-o
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: Does /dev/dm-0 go away if you remove your friend's disk?
[07:55] <rootclm> hello
[07:55] <rootclm> hh
[07:55] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: Depends how long you're willing to wait. I don't know how safe it is to pull the SATA cable directly out of the drive while the computer is on
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: I'm guessing from the fact that only two physical devices (/dev/sda and /dev/sdb) are listed that your friends drive is not currently being recognised at all. My guess is that /dev/dm-0 is actually part of your normal system.
[07:57] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: that's odd, because the BIOS recognized it
[07:57] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: Are there any other drive formats out there that Ubuntu wouldn't read by default?
[07:58] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: As an ugly last resort you can always copy off the files with FreeDOS then (DOS uses the BIOS to access drives).
[07:59] <GirlyGirl> Hi how to I generate a package download script with apt-get or aptitude?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: Only obscure FakeRAID, and in that case I think we would still see the member devices as /dev/sdc, /dev/sde etc in /dev/disk/by-id/ (though I may be wrong, I don't work much with FakeRAID).
[07:59] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: Interesting. How would I go about that?
[08:00] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: Hmm. Let me do a quick reboot and see what the drive is listed as in the BIOS
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: /join ##freedos.
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: I need to leave now. Good luck.
[08:00] <Velshtein> Jordan_U: thanks for the help mate
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Velshtein: You're welcome.
[08:01] <gregoryws> SAMBA problem: Ubuntu 11.04 on 2 PCs; both running full SAMBA from 11.04 repos, smbclient of localhost proves both are aware of each other. But only master can browse and only it's own shares, no matter which one is master at the time.
[08:02] <sammy> I thought checking the 'make available for all users' in a network setting in network-manager would make the computer connect to that wireless network at boot. please tell me I dont have to completely NOT use network-manager to have my computer connect to an available wireless network at boot?
[08:02] <sammy> (at boot read: before a user logs into gdm)
[08:03] <gregoryws> sammy I'm late to this party, but are you using a bluetooth or other device external to your machine?
[08:04] <sammy> external? its not bluetooth or usb. its an internal wireless card.
[08:05] <almoxarife> gregoryws: how did you setup samba?
[08:05] <gregoryws> OK
[08:05] <sammy> and you're not late gregoryws I just like to jump right in.
[08:06] <sammy> maybe checking 'make available for all users' and having it connect at boot is only for wired connections. I swear Ive seen this behavior before without having to manually configure the connection in a console. I thought network manager, since it starts at boot, could connect to a wireless network at boot. I know how to configure /etc/network/interfaces to connect at boot, but Id rather network-manager handle it if possible.
[08:06] <almoxarife> gregoryws: listen to sammy
[08:06] <daxroc> Morning
[08:06] <sammy> almoxarife: I have no idea what gregoryws is trying to do :P sorry, I was asking my own question
[08:07] <gregoryws> almoxarife the first PC took awhile, ubuntu 11.04 uses a modified samba setup.  It took me >10hours to get to a working samba share as I wanted it.
[08:07] <gregoryws> BUT it worked
[08:07] <Guest98726> anybody here familliar with the usb katana?
[08:08] <gregoryws> Now, over a week later, I can't access the shares anymore across the network
[08:08] <almoxarife> gregoryws: yet they don't share data between them, as sammy said, via nautilus setup sharing, its painless, unless you have configured something in the conf that would negate the changes introduced by the nautilus method
[08:08] <sammy> anymore? the shares have disappeared? we'll have to play the 'what changed' game
[08:08] <sammy> almoxarife: again, I have no idea what gregoryws is talking about, I was asking my own question, not responding to him.
[08:10] <almoxarife> sammy: got it
[08:10] <sammy> my issue is wireless not being started at boot, which is what I thought the behavior was when you checked 'make available for all users' or however its written. though almoxarife sounds right, if you configured samba manually, it might be best to ask in a samba setting, and not here. everyone here tends to be very 'use the UbuntuWay or "do it yourself" as linus would say'
[08:11] <sammy> which would be great if everything worked out of the box more often than not :P devs lately are a bit too worried about bells and whistles to worry about regressions and unified behavior across the board.
[08:11] <ga_pro1988>  #join backtrack-linux
[08:11] <almoxarife> sammy: yes, if wireless is checked and some wifi is set to auto-all I would expect it to be up at boot
[08:11] <sammy> almoxarife: auto-all? in /etc/NetworkManager or some sort?
[08:12] <gregoryws> The 'Ubuntu Way' isn't working right now either.
[08:12] <ga_pro1988> how do i join backtrack??
[08:12] <almoxarife> sammy: yes, in networkmanager, no cli and no conf changes
[08:12] <ga_pro1988> backtrack-linux
[08:12] <sammy> ga_pro1988: I think you're looking for /join #channelname
[08:12] <ga_pro1988> thank
[08:13] <ikonia> ga_pro1988: #backtrack-linux is the channel name
[08:13] <almoxarife> gregoryws: is what you want in the end to have two desktops being able to share files? and are they in the same network?
[08:13] <sammy> gregoryws: if you'd like, try installing etckeeper. that will commit your /etc to a concurrent version system. then try apt-get purging any samba packages, and re install them. that might guarantee any config changes youve made that would hose the 'UbuntuWay' are purged
[08:13] <sammy> gregoryws: if that doesn't work, you can use the cvs system set up in /etc/ to restore that directory to its previous version
[08:14] <sammy> maybe concurrent version system isnt the right term; whatever CVS stands for, git and bzr and the like
[08:14] <sammy> almoxarife: so ill fire up my user, check to make sure ... auto-all you say. I dont know where to find this but I'll poke around in the network-manager gui
[08:15] <almoxarife> sammy: in the wifi tab of net-manager
[08:15] <gregoryws> almoxarife yes, and yes.  smbclient -L localhost yields :http://paste.ubuntu.com/702630/
[08:16] <almoxarife> gregoryws: and to achive the above discussed you installed full samba?
[08:16] <sammy> in the wifi tab of network manager all I see is a list of networks, their names and when they were last used, nd three buttons to add/edit and delete networks
[08:17] <gregoryws> almoaxarife if you attempt to share a folder thrue nautilus, it will ask to install full samba.. so I did on both machines
[08:17] <sammy> oh! look at that. the 'available to all users' isnt checked. whoooooops
[08:18] <ga_pro1988> quit
[08:18] <ga_pro1988> why i can't go to web site backtrack??
[08:18] <ikonia> ga_pro1988: no idea, ask the guys in #backtrack-linux
[08:18] <gregoryws> sammy didn't know cvs could be used like that...
[08:19] <awaad> I want to install RHEL 6 besides my Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop
[08:19] <awaad> Is there any tool that can help me to install it from my flash memory ?
[08:19] <sammy> gregoryws: its a very handy tool. etckeeper actually runs commits before and after each apt procedure, in case the installation/removal of software makes changes to /etc files you don't like. its one of the first things i install on every debian machine
[08:20] <iuytfr> hello
[08:20] <almoxarife> gregoryws: it does a bit more than that, may I suggest you un-install what ever you installed above what was on the machine already related to samba, then using nautilus right click on the folders you want to share, insure everything is checked , most important is that 'anyone' can access , I have been down the road of full installs and I have always gone back to the method discussed above, because it works
[08:20] <iuytfr> i got 3 pc on my LAN, i want to sent message over broadcast
[08:20] <iuytfr> any idea ?
[08:21] <sammy> awaad: flash memory as in a usb stick? or sd card? I beleive unetbootin is a very good tool for that, though ubuntu does have its own usb disk creator. i forget its name exactly, googling should yield it.
[08:21] <gregoryws> sammy etckeeper?  I'll write that down:)
[08:21] <sammy> iuytfr: could you be more specific? send a message how, exactly? to where?
[08:21] <awaad> sammy: It is a usb stick
[08:22] <awaad> sammy: Do you mean "Ubuntu Live Usb Creator" ?
[08:23] <sammy> awaad: thats the one
[08:23] <ajay> i have a prob with ubuntu one on xubuntu any help?
[08:23] <bazhang> ajay, try #ubuntuone
[08:23] <AdvoWork> how can i tell if the version of ubuntu i have installed is desktop or server edition? cat /etc/issue just shows Ubuntu 10.04 LTS \n \l
[08:23] <ikonia> ajay: #xubuntu - some of the guys where saying it no longer works with xubuntu
[08:23] <awaad> sammy: Do you think it will help me for installing not Ubuntu but RHEL6 ?
[08:24] <ikonia> ajay: up to you
[08:24] <ikonia> ajay: sorry, that was for awaad
[08:24] <gregoryws> almoxarife wouldn't the 'anyone' can access make it too easy for someone to steal files?
[08:24] <ikonia> ajay: the guys in #xubuntu where saying that ubuntuone no longer works with xubuntu
[08:24] <sammy> AdvoWork: 'server' and 'desktop' editions of ubuntu only differ by having different meta-packages installed that contain different software. there is no real difference. if you check for the installation of ubuntu-desktop, that will tell you
[08:25] <AdvoWork> sammy, how would i check that, from the console? sorry
[08:25] <almoxarife> gregoryws: if its not a home net then you can leave it unchecked, you will have to provide user and pass info when you try to log in though to the other folders
[08:25] <sammy> AdvoWork: from many places. synaptic package manager, for a GUI. you can run 'sudo apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop' from the command line, too.
[08:26] <awaad> ikonia, sammy: I found UNetbootin in Ubuntu repositories. But I want to use it to install RHEL from USB flash memory not on the USB flash memory
[08:26] <almoxarife> sammy: that /etckeeper looks interesting, do I have to already have git access or is it all done on install?
[08:26] <awaad> ikonia, sammy: Will it help ?
[08:26] <ajay> ikonia:i see but any specific reason why it does not work?
[08:26] <Velshtein> Aaaand we have an interesting update to my little issue:
[08:26] <Velshtein> Drive appears in the BIOS during a cold boot. When I try to boot my linux partition, it hangs on loading cmain(). If I do a standard reboot, the drive disappears in the BIOS.
[08:27] <Velshtein> On a whim, I booted from a LiveCD. Lo and behold, when I try to access /dev/sda I get the lovely "Permission denied"
[08:27] <FloodBot1> Velshtein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:27] <GirlyGirl> Hi what is the smallest download install in the repos for a very basic desktop environment for recovery purposes as I am stuck in CLI right now.
[08:27] <ajay> bazhang:wil try thanks
[08:27] <sammy> awaad: i'm sorry, yes, unetbootin is what you'd like. the live usb creator only makes ubuntu images, I think. unetbootin can use a pre-existing disk image file, or it can download one of many different images online
[08:27] <GirlyGirl> Fixing KDE needs some downloading over the Internet and its too difficult without Wifi.
[08:28] <awaad> sammy: Thanks a lot
[08:28] <sammy> GirlyGirl: and youre looking for a gui live cd? I think there's only the 650mb image or the 'alternate' image which doesn't have X
[08:29] <AdvoWork> sammy, out of interest, what exactly does sudo apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop do?
[08:29] <GirlyGirl> sammy: No a small de to install on a currently working Ubuntu without GUI
[08:29] <bazhang> GirlyGirl, lubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <GirlyGirl> bazhang: How big is that?
[08:30] <sammy> AdvoWork: try 'man apt-cache' and look for policy :) it will tell you what versions of a particular package you have installed, and where versions of that package are availabe to install from, ie local versions, or repositories
[08:30] <AdvoWork> ok, nice one thanks
[08:30] <bazhang> GirlyGirl, no idea
[08:31] <GirlyGirl> sammy: bazhang I've tried all sorts of ways to connect to w WPA network from CLI but it always fails connecting, if I manage to do that I know how to fix KDE
[08:31] <AdvoWork> sammy, doh -bash: man: command not found lol, i forgot it was a base system, ive got a copy on another server though
[08:32] <Starminn> Who could help me (or steer me in the direction of help) with this error: 'Unable to connect: java.security.AccessControlException : access denied (java.lang.RuntimePermission getProtectionDomain)' -- this really doesn't have anything to do with Ubuntu, but you guys are great redirectors.
[08:32] <sammy> AdvoWork: just run the policy command, i promise it wont do anything but spit out if 'ubuntu-desktop' is installed or not :) you could even try just installing ubuntu-desktop with apt-get and see if it tries to install, or says its already installed. that will tell you if you ahve a desktop install.
[08:32] <sammy> AdvoWork: i didnt mean to make it more complicated by suggesting you read the man page
[08:33] <sammy> Starminn: did you try putting the entirety of the error into google? ;)
[08:33] <AdvoWork> sammy, its not, dont worry, also is it just sudo apt-get install manpages or man (both exist) ?
[08:34] <xannen> Between xen and virtualbox which is easy to use and install?
[08:34] <Starminn> sammy: Yes, I did, but I'd rather not comb through hours of reading on Oracles site (especially when what I did read, as well as skim I could not find the answer)
[08:35] <sammy> AdvoWork: I couldn't tell you which package youre trying to install, but I can tell you right now, if you tried to run man and nothing happened, you definitely do not have ubuntu-desktop installed. in fact id be surprised if you have ubuntu-minimal installed.
[08:36] <AdvoWork> sammy, afaik its a base/barebones ubuntu server(installed from debian via xen as a virtual machine, so i think it always installs the server version, was just checking)
[08:36] <sammy> Starminn: hm. try googling for different parts of the error and see if you can find someone other than the oracle website,maybe. sorry, maybe someone else recognizes the error, but I don't. I usually have luck finding a blog or some such where someone has had the same error as I.
[08:37] <Starminn> sammy: :) Yeah, usually a search of the whole things solves it pretty quick. :) Alright, well thank you for your time
[08:37] <Velshtein> I can't seem to access my /dev/sda drive. Using gparted to print the information gives me an "unrecognized disk label" error. Opinions?
[08:38] <Velshtein> And fdisk doesn't even mention the thing
[08:38] <sammy> GirlyGirl: so you're looking for another desktop environment to be able to help you connect to your wifi? from which you can then fix the problem?
[08:38] <sammy> Velshtein: can you run 'disk utility'?
[08:39] <shubham_rathi> hey is razer death adder mouse supported on ubuntu?
[08:39] <Velshtein> sammy: sorry, relatively new to linux here. What's the command?
[08:39] <GirlyGirl> shubham_rathi: Yes
[08:39] <GirlyGirl> shubham_rathi: sorry
[08:39] <GirlyGirl> sammy: Yes
[08:39] <sammy> Velshtein: are you in a gui or the command line? disk utility is a gui tool.
[08:40] <Velshtein> ah. i've got the terminal open but i'm also browsing via nautilus
[08:40] <shubham_rathi> girlygirl sorry for what?? :P
[08:40] <Velshtein> sammy: i've got a copy of nautilus that seems to recognize the drive in my dev/disk/by-id folder, but it doesn't show up anywhere else
[08:41] <sammy> Velshtein: Id see if you can run 'disk utility' which I believe is a gtk tool, so if youre using kubuntu it might not be there. its a very handy, comprehensive tool for examining disks
[08:42] <sammy> and GirlyGirl I dunno. you're looking for a super tiny de, but anything less than xfce, kde or gnome, and you'd probably have to use a third-party tool to connect to the wireless, like wicd
[08:42] <Velshtein> sammy: would love to. is it possible to do from a LiveCD? because that's the only way I can boot an OS and keep the drive accessible in the BIOS
[08:42] <cvam> if I opened many windows like browsers with many tabs, media player,  terminal emulator and moving between tabs and windows ,  system gets to console screen(black & text only) and prints some system messages. Why this happened
[08:42] <sammy> GirlyGirl: you might be able to run something very simple like twm (tiny window manager) and run wicd from within
[08:43] <GirlyGirl> sammy: I already have knetworkmanager and basically nthe complete kde except for kde-workspace which has problems . I can't ask here about that as its not an ubuntu maintained kde.
[08:43] <gregoryws> cvam can you go back to your desktop?
[08:44] <GirlyGirl> sammy: I was thinking this http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lxde-core
[08:44] <sammy> Velshtein: I think disk utility comes on a live cd, yes. if it doesnt you can still install packages, they just wont persist from one boot to the next. i'm not sure what the package contains disk utility, you can search packages.ubuntu.com though
[08:44] <cvam> gregoryws: no system get struck there and i have to reboot
[08:44] <hypertyper> can grub be accessed from windows to change entries?
[08:44] <Velshtein> sammy: ah, super. I found it
[08:44] <sammy> GirlyGirl: I honestly dont know if any of the other window managers have built-in network manager support, or even their own network configuration applications.
[08:44] <ikonia> hypertyper: no
[08:44] <vlt> Hello. When I open an .odt document in the program crashes after a few seconds. What to check first?
[08:45] <hypertyper> ty
[08:45] <vlt> -in
[08:45] <samsul> disk utility > palimsest
[08:45] <samsul> palimsest is the package name...
[08:45] <gregoryws> cvam so ctrl+alt+Function key doesn't get you back?
[08:45] <sammy> vlt: try ~/.xsession-errors
[08:45] <GirlyGirl> sammy: But I should be able to launch knetworkmanager once lxde is up
[08:46] <cvam> gregoryws: i have not tried. is it due to segmentation fault
[08:46] <GirlyGirl> sammy: Rebooting from win xp to try it out
[08:46] <Velshtein> sammy: i've got it up and running. Interestingly enough, I've got "-" for a variety of options, and the Volumes are all Unknown.
[08:46] <sammy> GirlyGirl: you could launch knetworkmanager within twm (tiny window manager) if all you need is window decorations and a way to start an xterm
[08:47] <gregoryws> cvam so then, the system messages mentioned above include an error message about a segmentation fault?
[08:47] <vlt> sammy: Nothing is written there when OpenOffice closes.
[08:48] <sammy> Velshtein: well that doesn't sound good. its possible the disk has been formatted/partitioned in some odd way? maybe hardware failure? disk utility should also give you SMART data to see if your disk is failing.
[08:48] <Velshtein> sammy: doesn't say failing. Simply says "Not Supported"
[08:48] <Velshtein> sammy: I'm more curious and intrigued than worried.
[08:49] <sammy> vlt: maybe you can run openoffice in a terminal and see if it spits out any errors, or try /var/log/Xorg.0.log (if I got the file name right)
[08:49] <sammy> Velshtein: usb disk?
[08:49] <Velshtein> sammy: negative. Hard drive. 1 TB
[08:49] <sammy> sata?
[08:49] <Velshtein> sammy: yes
[08:49] <sammy> im not sure why a sata drive wouldnt be reporting smart data.
[08:50] <Velshtein> sammy: is there a formatting type that Ubuntu wouldn't recognize by default?
[08:50] <cvam> gregoryws: once i  have seen
[08:50] <sammy> Velshtein: really really odd ones? nothing that was created by windows or ubuntu
[08:50] <Velshtein> sammy: and i'm seeing 3 partitions, though all Unknown. 1000 GB, 247 MB, 123 MB
[08:50] <sammy> Velshtein: is it posisble theyre exfat?
[08:51] <pamwe_chete> i need some help setting up a kios using ubuntu - it's a touch screen - and i need to limit the user to firefox and limit firefox to one domain only
[08:51] <sammy> exfat isn't supported by default in ubuntu, I don't think. I had to install a fuse driver from a ppa. disk utility just saw them and was confused. but knew that they werent blank.
[08:51] <pamwe_chete> is there a tutorial somewhere , i cant find anything on the web
[08:51] <Velshtein> sammy: maybe? like I said, I received this drive from a friend who has a client that needs to access it. Says it has family photos on it
[08:51] <pamwe_chete> kiosk
[08:53] <sammy> pamwe_chete: I think google will be your friend. I dont think ubuntu has a specific mode for a kiosk install. you might also want to look into using a specific distribution created for kiosks.
[08:53] <oooaaaooo> hi guys, how do i create a terminal shortcut on the desktop in 11.04 unity?
[08:53] <gregoryws> cvam keypress combination of ctrl+alt+Fx (functionkeys 1 thru 12) can switch terminals on standard Ubuntu.  Right now my desktop is on F7, but its osmetimes changes. If your desktop crashed then you probsbly will have to check to system logs.  Someone a little smarter than me will have to direct you on that I beleive.
[08:54] <sammy> Velshtein: look into installing the fuse-exfat driver from the ppa. then you can mount them manually.  im not sure what other partitions these days arent recognized. gparted is pretty comprehensive in its recognition of partition types.
[08:54] <nergal_> I have a strange problem. According to ifconfig my if recieves traffic. But when performing tcpdump on that interface I get no packets (without any rules). Anyone knows why this may happen?
[08:54] <pamwe_chete> sammy, google isn't helping much, and the client insists that the os is ubuntu, he's a zulu guy and ubuntu is a word from his language, i think he's a bit obesessed with ubuntu
[08:55] <oooaaaooo> hi guys, how do i create a terminal shortcut on the desktop in 11.04 unity?
[08:55] <cvam> gregoryws: probably desktop is crashing . thank you any way
[08:55] <sammy> oooaaaooo: right click on the desktop and select 'create launcher' also, google is your friend.
[08:55] <pamwe_chete> sammy, i know the freedom toaster kiosk is ubuntu, so it's should be easy, i just can't find anything
[08:55] <Starminn> oooaaaooo: You could just "Create Launcher" and then set ithe command ot the name of your Terminal program
[08:56] <pamwe_chete> never mind , i found what i was looking for
[08:56] <gregoryws> oooaaaooo also ctrl+alt+t will get a terminal
[08:56] <almoxarife> pamwe_chete: there is a guest account, and without knowing the user info a guest won't get anyplace else
[08:56] <sammy> pamwe_chete: I hate to break it to you, but something that specific is probably done manually in most places. if google isnt finding an out-of-the-box kiosk install, it might not exist.
[08:57] <oooaaaooo> gregoryws: cool but is there anyway i can create a desktop launcher?
[08:57] <Starminn> oooaaaooo: I just told you.
[08:57] <almoxarife> pamwe_chete: in 11.04 run in classic you could remove all the panels? leaving firefox on the desktop?
[08:58] <gregoryws> oooaaaooo also if you click the button in the upper left corner and navigate to a program, you can drag the icon into the launcher bar
[08:58] <almoxarife> sammy: think out of the box, make it work!, think its snowing and lives depend on it, if it were easy anyone could do it
[08:58] <oooaaaooo> Starminn: sorry yeah i tried that but it doesnt work. Im using "bash" as a command
[08:59] <oooaaaooo> gregoryws: no i want it on my desktop
[08:59] <Starminn> oooaaaooo: Heheh... You're not searching anything, are you? *sigh* Google really *is* your friend. Alright, try "gnome-terminal" I suppose?
[08:59] <oooaaaooo> Starminn: im on unity
[08:59] <Velshtein> sammy: exfat support currently a work in progress. I'll let you know what happens
[09:00] <almoxarife> oooaaaooo: get it from /users/share/applications, drag it to the desktop
[09:00] <Starminn> oooaaaooo: And?
[09:00] <pamwe_chete> almoxarifa : yes it's possible to lock-down gnome and create a kisok where the user only has access to firefox
[09:00] <sammy> oooaaaooo: you cant use bash as a command, bash is a shell interpreter. you need an X application, like xterm, or terminal, or terminator. you cant run a bash shell in X without a window to run it in.
[09:01] <pamwe_chete> http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/ubuntu01.htm <-- ubuntu kios
[09:01] <pamwe_chete> k
[09:01] <gregoryws> oooaaaooo yep, xterm is a valid app on mine...
[09:01] <Velshtein> sammy: interesting. attempting to mount the drive manually as a exfat drive gives me "BUG: failed to read 512 bytes from file at 0."
[09:02] <Starminn> oooaaaooo: Unity is just a shell -- it still uses GNOME, so one would think that it would still use gnome-terminal. :) And if you want to change the icon of your Launcher, just click on the default icon and find the image you wanrt
[09:02] <gregoryws> oooaaaooo so create a launcher sammy's way and type xterm for the command
[09:02] <Velshtein> sammy: perhaps it's not an exfat drive?
[09:03] <sammy> Velshtein: its possible its not exfat. if gparted doesn't knwo what type the partition is... then I don't know. gparted or disk utility should at least be able to recognize teh partitions and partitioning scheme.
[09:04] <sammy> maybe they're part of a logical volume group? honestly if gparted gives you no information on the type of partitions, you might need more information from the client. maybe a 3rd party tool could help. look into the emergency boot disk. it comes with tons and tons of tools for hard drive exploration, and I think its only a 100mb disk
[09:05] <sammy> I dont remember how gparted reports lvm volumes, I would think as such.
[09:05] <Velshtein> sammy: what REALLY interests me is that the drive prevents me from booting my Ubuntu partition from a cold boot
[09:06] <gregoryws> oooaaaooo does that work for you?
[09:06] <oooaaaooo> gregoryws: yup i tried both and they both work
[09:06] <Velshtein> sammy: if I do a system reset, the drive disappears from my BIOS and I can boot properly, but if it's from a cold boot, the drive is there and I hang while booting
[09:06] <sammy> probably because its being set up in the bios as the first drive to boot from, and the boot attempt fails
[09:06] <armis71> hmmm not sure about unity... anyone don't like it?
[09:06] <sammy> oh.
[09:06] <oooaaaooo> gregoryws: thanks
[09:06] <gregoryws> oooaaaooo that's great :)
[09:07] <Velshtein> sammy: then it's found a way to override my BIOS settings, because the BIOS is set to go by default to my windows drive, which then directs it to my modified boot sequence (Win7 or Ubuntu)
[09:07] <sammy> id look into tools to verify the hardware integrity of the drive. and see if you could find something in the ultimate boot disk that can identify the partitions
[09:07] <sammy> ultimate boot cd i think its called. tons of good stuff on there
[09:07] <armis71> i got an unused partition, it doesn't show in linux
[09:09] <zarlino> hi all, I'd like to add my commercial software to the ubuntu software center. I read this http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/my-apps-packages/, but cannot figure out how exactly I should package my app. Any suggestions?
[09:10] <ikonia> zarlino: what part is not clear ?
[09:10] <zarlino> ikonia: I don't know and cannot find info on what a "source package" is
[09:10] <zarlino> ikonia: "source package format"
[09:10] <ikonia> zarlino: ok, they mean a debian package format, so a "source debian package" format that can be used to either build the package
[09:11] <gregoryws> zarlino there is a dev channel
[09:11] <ikonia> zarlino: are you aware of debian package format ?
[09:11] <zarlino> ikonia: yes, i already created my .deb
[09:12] <ikonia> zarlino: does it comply with the other rules, eg: install to /opt/$package have the configs in ~/.$package etc
[09:12] <zarlino> ikonia: no, it is a plain .deb. I didn't create it for the Software Center
[09:13] <zarlino> ikonia: can you point me to docs that describe the "source package format"?
[09:13] <ikonia> zarlino: ok, so you need to make the deb to comply with those requirements listed on that page
[09:13] <zarlino> ikonia: I'd prefer to let the Software Center do packaging and prive this "source format"
[09:14] <zarlino> prive => provide
[09:14] <gregoryws> zarlino are you familiar with linux?
[09:14] <ikonia> zarlino: the source format contains things like the layout, so submit the debian source package format with the correct parameters to allow it to build in line with the requirements on this page
[09:14] <zarlino> gregoryws: yes
[09:15] <zarlino> ikonia: ok, it is just that I cannot find on google anything that describes this "source format"
[09:15] <sammy> zarlino: a source debian package. as opposed to a binary one. you should look at the debian packaging docs.
[09:15] <ikonia> zarlino: it's basically a tarball, with the sources, the package, the patches, the description file
[09:15] <ikonia> zarlino: let me see if I can find a reference link
[09:17] <sammy> i wonder how many of the 1400 idlers in here are just bots scraping the hosts of new ubuntu installs to hack
[09:17] <gregoryws> zarlino: I believe it is possible to have a .DEB package with only binary.  That reference even says that the source code isn't required
[09:17] <sammy> gregoryws: it is, but they are trying to submit a package for inclusion in the official repositories. I belive they require a source package.
[09:17] <zarlino> ikonia: if you can change that page I'd suggest you link to some relevant docs, the world of debian packaging is quite obscure
[09:17] <gregoryws> sammy: is that possible?
[09:17] <moneo_> Hey everyone. My second monitor won't appear in the monitor preferences window... Ubuntu 11.04 just won't detect it. Works OK in windows so the hardware is OK. Any ideas how I can get dual monitors working?
[09:18] <moneo_> I have 2 graphics cards, but both monitors are plugged into the primary one. One works, but the other isn't found
[09:18] <ikonia> !packaging
[09:18] <ikonia> zarlino: ahhh check the first link there.
[09:18] <ikonia> zarlino: I'm trying to find a page that used to have a great breakdown
[09:19] <zarlino> ikonia: ok thanks will do
[09:19] <sammy> there's an entire official debian packaging manual, and the new mantainers guide.
[09:19] <codehotter> can I start a process and capture its pid, so I can kill it later?
[09:19] <zarlino> sammy: the point is I don't want to read everything about packaging. I just want to know the format required by the Ubuntu Software Center
[09:20] <gregoryws> sammy: I mean can you hack a fresh install through an IRC client?
[09:21] <Kingsy> which package do I need in order to get shockwave installed for firefox?
[09:21] <Kingsy> basically loads of websites are asking for activeX
[09:22] <Kingsy> forums are saying to install firefox on wine.. for shockwave.. no way that cant be the way
[09:23] <sammy> gregoryws: I'm saying you sit in here, and as people join, you get the IPs of people who may not have properly secured their ubuntu installs, and hack them in other ways. not necessarily through IRC.
[09:24] <sammy> zarlino: was just trying to point you to docs that outlined what a debian source package is.
[09:24] <Error404NotFound> i have a file: /etc/cron.d/test which contains http://pastebin.com/QjF2UJgd but i don't see it actually running, any ideas?
[09:24] <sammy> zarlino: you would technically be a 'new maintainer' of a debian package, so I thought that guide might be helpful.
[09:25] <sammy> Kingsy: can you be a bit more specific? the website youre going to in firefox in ubuntu is saying you need to install activeX?
[09:25] <jivjiv> I want to install GTK+ 3.0 through command line. what would be the appropriate apt-get install command?
[09:27] <linuxuz3r> how do you get a full screen shot of ubuntu
[09:28] <sammy> jivjiv: you'd have to know what package you want to install. are you doing development? youre looking for libgtk-3- packages, probably libgtk-3-dev if you want to develop
[09:29] <gregoryws> zarlino what's the app your trying to put through?
[09:29] <sammy> linuxuz3r: if youre running gnome I believe 'take screenshot' can be found in accessories
[09:29] <sammy> linuxuz3r: try browsing/searching for it as you would any other application.
[09:30] <jivjiv> sammy : i did sudo apt-get install libgtk3.0-dev ... "couldn't find" ... so i did "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev" .. http://pastebin.com/5RYnz7fN is the output
[09:30] <sammy> jivjiv: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:32] <sammy> I see libgtk-3-dev which apparently replaces libgtk-3.0-dev -- "sudo apt-cache search whatever" is your friend. you can also use packages.ubuntu.com if you can get there.
[09:32] <jivjiv> sammy.. : cat /etc/issue gives me Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS .. it's a very old version but I need to work with this. I modified sources.list to include http://pastebin.com/NJ0guvCv
[09:33] <jivjiv> sammy : sorry din read your message before pushing enter.. let me try that.
[09:33] <sammy> jivjiv: it may not be in lucid's repositories. you may need to use something more recent. but I advice against installing packages from such a newer version- you can run into serious libc problems.
[09:34] <jivjiv> sammy : ok please suggest something
[09:35] <sammy> upgrading to a newer version? you can always try to use a recent enough version that contains libgtk-3-dev in it, which you could find by using packages.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <jivjiv> sammy : I can't upgrade. Need to work with that constraint.
[09:36] <sammy> you might also be able to build the libraries from their source packages, which is suggested when running a package from a different version of ubuntu
[09:36] <jivjiv> yes this sounds like a better idea..
[09:36] <jivjiv> But i am not very familiar with how dependencies work.. gtk is dependent on lot of other libraries also.. getting them manually may be a little difficult
[09:37] <sammy> look into package pining. theres an ubuntu doc for it. it should walk you through adding a newer repository (which youve already done, but you may need newer ones) and installing only the few packages youll ned from the newer version.
[09:37] <sammy> the docs have instructions on how to do this for firefox, but its the same for any package. what you want to avoid is using the binary package for the libraries - theyre meant to be used with the rest of their version of ubuntu.
[09:38] <jivjiv> it will be great if you can ping me the link.. actually I am doing this for firefox... Building it in an older versionof linux
[09:39] <sammy> i dont know the link off hand, youre looking for ubuntu documentation on 'apt pining' which happens to walk you through building from source as well. you can use links or lynx as a browser from the command line.
[09:40] <jivjiv> sammy : thanks... will look for it..
[09:40] <liran>  I removed apache2 package with apt-get remove apache2 and I removed the dir from /etc - how I can re-install it ?
[09:40] <cutiyar> i didnt remeber and i puted usb flasj where the ubuntu 11.10 alpha on it , so now my 11.4 now ask for upgrades because first i clicked upgrade
[09:41] <cutiyar> i want to stop it till the official 11.10 is coming
[09:41] <sammy> liran: if you want to make sure you remove any configuration files, I'd suggest using "apt-get purge apache2" -- since youve already removed it, id suggest using 'apt-get install apache2' then purging, then installing again.
[09:42] <liran> sammy: I did it, still not creating new apache2 dir under etc :(
[09:43] <gregoryws> zarlino: What is the app you're trying to publish?
[09:44] <cutiyar> what to do ?
[09:44] <liran>  I removed apache2 package with apt-get remove apache2 and I removed the dir from /etc - how I can re-install it ?
[09:44] <sammy> liran: installing apache2 should create the apache2 directory. did you try purging?
[09:45] <caddoo> using spotify on latest ubuntu, is there any way i can turn the bass up
[09:45] <liran> sammy: yes I tried, it didnt
[09:46] <sammy> cutiyar: short of putting a hold on every package currently installed, or disabling the update-manager, I think ubuntu will always tell you about available upgrades, probably because they could be security upgrades.
[09:46] <Starminn> cutiyar: Open Update Manager, go to Settings...
[09:47] <sammy> liran: if there is no directory called /etc/apache2 when you install apache2, i don't know why it wouldn't create the directory. does 'apt-get install apache2' not report any errors?
[09:47] <Starminn> cutiyar: Then go to the Updates tab and choose (about halfway down) which you like
[09:47] <cutiyar> sammy, i know about updates but its upgrades from 11.4 its not released its happen when i putted usb disk with 11.10 alpha release
[09:48] <sammy> caddoo: google pulseaudio equalizer. you might have to add a ppa to install the package.
[09:48] <liran> sammy: it doesnt, and also not starting apache since files are missing
[09:48] <cutiyar> Starminn, i dont understand
[09:48] <sammy> cutiyar: check /etc/apt/sources.list -- starminn is showing you to a gui that manages that file, but you may have repositories in there listed for oneric, not natty, which is 11.4
[09:49]  * Starminn nods yes, sammy read my mind.
[09:49] <cutiyar> sammy, in source.list all are changed to oneiric its my problem
[09:50] <gregoryws> cutiyar maybe he meant synaptic?
[09:50] <sammy> liran: never delete files on an ubuntu install you didn't create yourself :P I cant imagine why apt-get install wont create the apache2 directory and isn't giving you an error when it tries. would you please try installing it, purging it, and installing it again? make sure there's no errors reported?
[09:51] <cutiyar> gregoryws, sammy Starminn , i want my ubuntu be same with yours if have 11.4
[09:51] <sammy> cutiyar: you need to change every instance of oneric to natty and update your package information. then only the versions available in 11.4 will be available to upgrade to. but if you started the upgrade process and stopped it somewhere along the way, it should have changed everything back to natty for you, if you stopped the upgrade cleanly, that is
[09:51] <sammy> otherwise you may be too far gone to go back to natty cleanly. I'm not sure exactly what happened when you put the alpha usb key in and clicked upgrade
[09:52] <cutiyar> sammy, nothing upgraded was just in calculating changes
[09:52] <cutiyar> sammy, when i canceled it
[09:52] <sammy> cutiyar: ah. check in /etc/apt/ and see if it made a backup copy of your sources.list
[09:52] <gregoryws> cutiyar what version do you have now?
[09:53] <cutiyar> gregoryws, 11.4
[09:53] <sammy> cutiyar: it may have also made backups in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ as well. you should be able to use those backups, and update your package information.
[09:53] <sammy> I was under the impression it restored those backups when the upgrade was cancelled. I could be wrong.
[09:54] <sh00p> I know /usr/local/lib/ is in ld's path... does directories like: /usr/local/lib/myprogram/ also end up in the library path?
[09:54] <cutiyar> sammy, there source.list.save and sources.list.d folder and sources.list.distUpgrade file
[09:54] <sammy> the .distUpgrade files are the backup the upgrade program made. those are the ones you want to be using.
[09:54] <cutiyar> sammy, so what should i do now?
[09:55] <vlt> sammy: I already tried to run it from terminal but it seems to detach. Once the program is running I get my shell prompt again.
[09:55] <vlt> sammy: (OpenOffice)
[09:55] <cutiyar> sammy, its contain natty
[09:55] <sammy> cutiyar: wonderful. those are your backups.
[09:56] <jonathon> Banshee can't play MP3's, However VLC can, Any ideas?
[09:56] <cutiyar> sammy, just change the name to source.list ?
[09:56] <cutiyar> sammy, and dellte this sourcelist that contain oneiric?
[09:57] <sammy> vlt: is it crashing outright, openoffice? I did find this: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
[09:57] <sammy> cutiyar: that should do it.
[09:58] <cutiyar> sammy, ok thanks.
[09:58] <sammy> jonathon: I think banshee and vlc use different libraries to play mp3s. what does banshee do when you try to play an mp3? is there no option to install additional software?
[09:59] <cutiyar> sammy, Done thanks.
[09:59] <lanstonpeng> how can i make a livecd with a usb and store something in it
[09:59] <jonathon> sammy: When banshee tries it just starts skipping everything, And I've seen no option to install anything else.
[09:59] <sammy> jonathon: you may need to look into restricted formats, installing something like ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[09:59] <jonathon> I've got the restricted extras installed
[09:59] <sammy> !restrictedformats
[10:00] <sammy> hm. try running banshee from a command line and see if it spews any errors as it tries to play mp3s... or check ~/.xsession-errors
[10:01] <szymon_g> hi
[10:01] <jonathon> sammy: I get this
[10:02] <jonathon> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[10:02] <jonathon> Cannot connect to server socket
[10:02] <jonathon> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[10:02] <jonathon> [Error 04:01:03.875] GStreamer core error: StateChange
[10:02] <szymon_g> i try to set partitions in cfdisk as "linux raid autodetect" /FD/, but cfdisk insists to create them as ext2. any ideas :?
[10:02] <FloodBot1> jonathon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <sammy> jack? do you have jack installed? banshee uses gstreamer. can you play mp3s with totem?
[10:04] <sammy> szymon_g: can you use gparted? or parted?
[10:04] <liran>  I removed apache2 package with apt-get remove apache2 and I removed the dir from /etc - how I can re-install it ?
[10:04] <jonathon> Don't have totem, Not sure what jack is, But I just checked in the package manager, and It doesn't list gstreamer as installed, so I'm gonna try installing it and try that
[10:04] <szymon_g> sammy, i'm used to cfdisk. i'll try them thou. are they on livecd?
[10:05] <GirlyGirl> sammy: Installed lxde and managed to fix kde from there
[10:05] <sammy> jonathon: I wonder how banshee got installed without gstreamer. I think its a dependency. you might want to try re-installing banshee?
[10:05] <sammy> szymon_g: I think so. I used to use cfdisk, but I find its a bit dated now
[10:06] <jonathon> Woo, Installing gstreamer got it working now, So all's good. Many thanks, sammy
[10:06] <sammy> liran: no errors when installing, purging, then installing again? I'm surprised apt doesn't complain
[10:06] <liran> no errors
[10:06] <liran> nothing
[10:06] <sammy> GirlyGirl: yay! using kde4? i havent tried it since it was a beta.
[10:07] <szymon_g> sammy, parted doesn't seem to be able to create filesystem "linux raid autodetect". i need it, because i would like to create raid partition /alternate cd doesn't seem to work for me/
[10:07] <liran> sammy: how can I delete the cache of older packages that I downaloaded?
[10:07] <liran> so apt-get will fetch the package again
[10:07] <GirlyGirl> sammy: Yes Kde 4.7 series . I've been using kde since 2003
[10:07] <sammy> liran: you can find them in /var/apt/cache, I believe
[10:08] <sammy> liran: aptitude can also clear the cache for you.
[10:08] <gregoryws> zarlino: what is the app you are trying to publish?
[10:08] <beachbrake> Is it safe to install Gnome3 on my ubuntu 11.04 now?
[10:09] <beachbrake> http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/do-not-install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu.html
[10:09] <sammy> szymon_g: this is a particular partition type? linux raid autodetect? hm.
[10:09] <szymon_g> yes, "FD" in type in cfdisk
[10:09] <beachbrake> ^ I read that there is some trouble with the PPA.
[10:09] <szymon_g> than i can join them /i.e. partitions/ in raid device like /dev/md0
[10:09] <sammy> and you write teh changes, szymon_g? sorry i have to ask
[10:10] <szymon_g> and than format md0 into ext2 :)
[10:10] <szymon_g> yes, of course :)
[10:10] <sammy> sometimes changes to partitions dont get updated until after a reboot
[10:10] <sammy> i remember that message in cfdisk, anyway
[10:10] <dai> hey guys, I have a question - Can I access a partition that isn't part of Ubuntu via the terminal ?
[10:10] <beachbrake> Can anyone help me out with my query?
[10:10] <almoxarife> beachbrake: safe? no
[10:10] <szymon_g> but when i re-lunch cfdisk i got my first partition /sda1/ in ext2, but second big one- in proper raid autodetect type
[10:11] <jonathon> dai: Yes
[10:11] <szymon_g> because i create 2 of them - one small for /boot, another big for lvm
[10:11] <liran> sammy: fixed this issue, removed any apache2 related packages and than re-install them all
[10:11] <liran> :)
[10:11] <jonathon> dai: it'll be in root/media/
[10:11] <beachbrake> almoxarife, you mean it is giving the errors experienced by that blogger?
[10:11] <sammy> liran: good idea. i wouldn't have thought of that.
[10:12] <beachbrake> almoxarife, So what is the safest way to try Gnome 3. I dont want to take a backup or use a different partition.
[10:12] <almoxarife> beachbrake: I mean that you will need to add certain ppa's and at some point you will find yourself with broken dependencies
[10:12] <beachbrake> Someone suggested I use Fedora or Arch.
[10:12] <sammy> beachbrake: I'd wait a few months and use 11.10
[10:13] <dai> jonathon: I open terminal, type "ls" and Media isn't part of it, how am I supposed to get to it?
[10:13] <sammy> ill double check, but I just saw that gnome-shell should be available in official repos for 11.10
[10:13] <almoxarife> beachbrake: not sure, a livecd of gnome3?
[10:13] <somsip> beachbrake: I saw a good write up for Fedora 13 today as a stable G3 platform, but I should encourage you to stay with ubuntu :)
[10:13] <beachbrake> almoxarife, Which I dont have :(
[10:13] <jonathon> dai: you gotta get to root first, usually by typing   ../    twice
[10:14] <beachbrake> somsip, but I am an aspiring Gnome outreach student, I need to test Gnome 3.
[10:14] <sammy> beachbrake: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/gnome-shell
[10:14] <beachbrake> Which is the safest option I can go for?
[10:14] <somsip> beachbrake: then you have a number of options
[10:14] <beachbrake> somsip, without losing data on my only laptop?
[10:14] <dai> jonathon: If I see [ Desktop Documents Downloads Music Pictures Public Templates Videos] when I type i "ls" - I'm in root, right?
[10:14] <jonathon> nope
[10:14] <overdub> any know if there is a command line network speed test utility?
[10:14] <dai> jonathon: :o
[10:14] <jonathon> you're in your home directory
[10:14] <sammy> you could even upgrade a bit prematurely to oneiric, or just add the oneiric repositories, apt-pin gnome-shell and build it from the source packages in natty
[10:15] <somsip> beachbrake: will it run a VM?
[10:15] <tomodachi> overdub: tptest , but its not in the repositories
[10:15] <almoxarife> beachbrake: here is a thought, install vistualbox, then install away in it?
[10:15] <tomodachi> overdub: the problem is you need something in the other end to transmit the data, a close enough ftpserver that you can pull from could suffice
[10:15] <dai> jonathon: typing "../" doesn't much
[10:15] <dai> jonathon: I'm missing something.. I think..
[10:16] <jonathon> type it twice, then type ls again, what does it show?
[10:16] <almoxarife> beachbrake: virtualbox
[10:16] <overdub> tomodachi, thanks for the information
[10:16] <sammy> dio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:16] <beachbrake> somsip, Never tried it though. What are the requirements? and what build of linux must I use in the VM to test Gnome 3?
[10:16] <beachbrake> almoxarife, ^
[10:16] <sammy> dio: there's a section on how to change directories.
[10:16] <jonathon> AHH
[10:16] <jonathon> my bad
[10:16] <szymon_g> sammy, problem solved /kind of/: i created partitions in parted /as unformatted/, than i created fs in cfdisk. seems to be working atm /btw, they were supposed to be unformatted, but cfdisk saw them as "linux" partitions
[10:16] <dai> jonathon: I type in "../ ../" and it replies with "bash: ../: is a directory"
[10:16] <jonathon> dai: You gotta type      cd ../
[10:16] <sammy> beachbrake: the version of ubuntu that comes out *this month* has gnome-shell in it... I may not have gotten your attention when I said that before.
[10:17] <tomodachi> overdub: youre welcome. tptest though is both a server and a client. You can download and install them both for free. The isp:s in my country (sweden) often have a tptest server so that one can try out the connection. it tests a lot of things both tcp/udp and responsetime etc
[10:17] <jonathon> Sorry bout that
[10:17] <somsip> beachbrake: virtualbox is free and on the repos, so it should not take much to install it. You have a choice of a number of distros that a few of us have mentioned for G3. It depends what you want to spend time downloading and trying. Reach out, eh?
[10:17] <szymon_g> where can i report bug in 11.10 :?
[10:17] <gr33n7007h> cd ../..
[10:17] <beachbrake> sammy, I need to apply before October 31 of this month else I would have loved to wait too :)
[10:17] <somsip> !oneiric | szymon_g
[10:17] <iceroot> szymon_g: ubuntu-bug packagename  also use #ubuntu+1 for 11.10
[10:17] <dai> jonathon: mind blown
[10:17] <szymon_g> thanx somsip
[10:18] <beachbrake> somsip, Gnome Women's Outreach Programme.
[10:18] <szymon_g> btw, fifteenth release... :)
[10:18] <jonathon> dai: lol
[10:18] <sammy> beachbrake: you can always add the oneiric repositories, apt-pin gnome-shell, and have apt build it for you for your version of ubuntu (which im guessing is 11.4) the apt-pinning guide in the ubuntu community docs spells that out for you.
[10:18] <greenmang0> hey friends, how to arrange icons in natilus "by modification date / reverse"  by default?
[10:18] <somsip> beachbrake: insall Virtual box. Download 11.10 beta. Try it. If you don't like it, try another?
[10:18] <greenmang0> nautilus*
[10:18] <beachbrake> Okay.
[10:18] <sammy> beachbrake: a vm seems a bit overkill, but if youre going to be doing seroius development, maybe its not a bad idea.
[10:18] <liran> How do I add SSL support anddeflate for apach2?
[10:19] <beachbrake> Okay sammy, Thank you! Will try virtual box now.
[10:19] <somsip> beachbrake: agree with sammy, but if you have limited resources and can't afford to mess up the lapop, it'll give an easy taster of what you could have if you wanted to inves more time/money
[10:19] <beachbrake> yes
[10:19] <beachbrake> I have only one laptop and some important data on it.
[10:19] <beachbrake> And my HDD is b0rked
[10:20] <beachbrake> External*
[10:20] <dai> jonathon: this might be a stretch but how would I wrote the location of my files in media ? cd ../../media/ ?
[10:20] <jonathon> beachbrake: I know that feeling, I've had to wipe my HDD twice, losing everything
[10:20] <dai> jonathon: write*
[10:20] <beachbrake> ouch
[10:20] <beachbrake> jonathon, How much did you lose?
[10:21] <somsip> beachbrake: if Virtualbox doesn't do it, you may have to look at a thumbdrive or external HD. But maybe that is one step away from where you need to be now
[10:21] <jonathon> beachbrake, like bout 200 gigs of stuff
[10:21] <beachbrake> O.o
[10:21] <jonathon> dai: Not sure whatcha mean...
[10:22] <jonathon> beachbrake: Now I'm a lil smarter about it, I got 3 partitions now, 1 for my linux, 1 for windoze, and one massive for all my files I wanna keep, That way should I ever mess something up badly, I won't lose my data partition :P
[10:22] <liran> Ubuntu Aapache 2 with SSL, which the default public and private certs it's using ?
[10:23] <gregoryws> jonathon: do you back your files up to something reliable, like dvd?
[10:23] <dai> jonathon: i think you said that my terminal starts in /home directory so if I have a file on my desktop i can write /home/Desktop/filenamehere  but what do I write if it's above the /home directory when i open my terminal? do i write ../../Media/folder/filenamehere ?
[10:24] <jonathon> gregoryws: nope, I'm gonna save up for an external though, just to be safe
[10:24] <jonathon> dai: ahh no, it would be /root/media/partition/filenamehere
[10:24] <beachbrake> jonathon, That is wise indeed :P
[10:25]  * beachbrake will be back later!
[10:25] <jonathon> laters beachbrake
[10:26] <dai> jonathon: oo.. kinda weird to use /root/ since the drive is a completely different partition
[10:27] <ikonia> no-one should be using /root for anything
[10:27] <jonathon> Well the parttion is accessed from root, so yea
[10:27] <ikonia> that is totally the reverse of the ubuntu design
[10:27] <gregoryws> jonathon: I'm roughly an intermediate Linux user ( with 30+ years of PC experience), but I am an electronics repair expert:  hard drive fail.  Don't trust em as a backup.
[10:27] <jonathon> gregoryws: any better idea then?
[10:28] <jonathon> DVD's would require way too many to bother with
[10:28] <dai> jonathon: can I access it without needing to use cd ../ ?
[10:28] <jonathon> dai: not that I know of
[10:28] <gregoryws> jonathon: optical discs... DVD, CD, blu-ray if you can afford it
[10:28] <jonathon> you gotta use that to get to root first
[10:29] <ikonia> jonathon: what is your requirement ?
[10:29] <jonathon> dai: you could type straight in cd /root/media/
[10:29] <ikonia> why is anything being put in /root ?
[10:29] <jonathon> ikonia: Accessing partitions, gotta use root
[10:29] <jonathon> through the terminal anyways
[10:29] <ikonia> jonathon: why ?
[10:29] <ikonia> jonathon: why do you "have" to use root?
[10:30] <ikonia> jonathon: partitions from external devices are in /media normally
[10:30] <ikonia> why are you not using /media
[10:30] <dai> jonathon: typing cd /root/Media/ gives me "Permission Denied"  sudo cd /root/Media/ doesn't work :P
[10:30] <jonathon> iokonia, /media is in /root
[10:30] <jonathon> dai, sudo su first, then cd /root/media
[10:30] <gr33n7007h> jonathon your right!
[10:31] <jonathon> gregoryws, it's cool, I'm not that worried about losing stuff, It's all replaceable
[10:32] <jonathon> gregoryws: If I have anything that is irreplaceable, it goes on my sd card
[10:32] <dai> jonathon: sudo su gives me all the power.....OMG I DONT NEED TO WRITE SUDO NOW
[10:32] <jonathon> so not that worried bout backups for now
[10:32] <dai> jonathon: I CAN TASTE THE FREEDOM.
[10:32] <jonathon> dai: lol, I never go into terminal without usin sudo su :P
[10:33] <dai> jonathon: thx!
[10:33] <jonathon> dai: Anytime ^^
[10:34] <gregoryws> jonathon: sd cards are actually less safe than usb sticks.  Bought a Gateway 2 years ago. Good price, but it's reader eats sd cards.  An sd card is often just a kind of IC chip that takes a loooong time to forget what it's told.  Just saying :)
[10:34] <jonathon> gregoryws: Stop scarin me :P
[10:34] <dai> jonathon: hey! i was wondering, is it possible to rename the partition drives? I have an ntfs drive i share with my windows 7 os and it's named '241 GB Filesystem' can I change that?
[10:34] <gregoryws> lol :)
[10:34] <jonathon> dai: Not sure, I've not figured it out yet
[10:35] <dai> jonathon: what about changing the name of the drive number, the name after /Media/
[10:35] <jonathon> gregoryws, So what would you recommend if I only need say 32 megs of important information stored
[10:35] <jonathon> dai: Same, I'm not sure about that either
[10:36] <dai> jonathon: aww
[10:36] <jonathon> dai: I wanna find out because it give it a ridiculous number
[10:36] <ikonia> jonathon: /media is not in root
[10:36] <ikonia> jonathon: media is in the root files sytem of "/" not "/root"
[10:36] <cutiyar> why i cant XBMC ??
[10:36] <gregoryws> jonathon: A good quality burnable cd x2.  If security is important you can use an encrypted archive.
[10:36] <jonathon> ikonia: Same difference
[10:37] <ikonia> jonathon: no - it's not
[10:37] <dai> jonathon: there's a rename option when you right click the drive but renaming it gives you "The item could not be renamed" error
[10:37] <jonathon> dai: Yea
[10:37] <ikonia> jonathon: /root is the home directory of the root user, which under the ubuntu model is locked and unusable
[10:37] <ikonia> jonathon: / is the root file ssytem of the operating system
[10:37] <ikonia> jonathon: they are VERY different
[10:37] <zpw> help
[10:37] <zpw> who can tell me how to use the ir
[10:37] <zpw> c
[10:38] <jonathon> gregoryws, but see, I keep a password file, which I have to change once in a while, so cd's won't quite cut it
[10:38] <jonathon> zpw: You're using it?
[10:38] <zpw> yeah
[10:38] <paulus68> how can I put this find /media/backup1/backups -type f -exec ls -s {} \; | sort -n | tail -n 1 | into a variable and use this to copy the content of this variable to a different location with a bash script
[10:38] <jonathon> Ikonia: Oh see, I was calling '/' root, Didn't know, but whatevs :P
[10:39] <llutz> zpw: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[10:39] <zpw> thx llutz
[10:39] <llutz> paulus68: var=$( find /media/backup1/backups -type f -exec ls -s {} \; | sort -n | tail -n 1)
[10:40] <paulus68> llutz: then the second command would be mv $var /media/home/user right?
[10:41] <ikonia> jonathon: it makes a massive difference hence why I'm trying to get a definition
[10:41] <gregoryws> jonathon: The cd's would be an archive against the failure of your day to day; I prefer bi-annual.  'Course my Password archive is an encrypted text file.
[10:41] <llutz> paulus68: you'd have to strip the size from filename
[10:41] <overdub> paulus68, why not just do find /media/backup1/backups -type f -exec ls -s {} \; | sort -n | tail -n 1 > /mydir/mydir
[10:42] <jonathon> gregoryws: Well as I said, not too worried about it for now, so my sd card will do for now :)
[10:42] <paulus68> overdub: didn't know that this was also an option thx
[10:42] <overdub> paulus68, just redirect the output from your command with ">" and skip the variable all together
[10:42] <Horst123> hi! I have in my /etc/hosts the line:
[10:42] <Horst123> 	   login1.zih.tu-dresden.de<tab>lintud. typing ping lintud tells me
[10:42] <Horst123> 	   unknown host
[10:43] <rjharv> !seen mjbarks
[10:43] <paulus68> overdub: so this will copy the particular file to the new location?
[10:43] <jonathon> lol
[10:43] <gregoryws> jonathon: Absolutely :) There must be a balance between caution and inconvenience ;)
[10:43] <Horst123> whats wrong with that? ping login1.zih.tu-dresden.de works
[10:43] <llutz> paulus68: paulus68             cp $( find /media/backup1/backups -type f -exec ls -s {} \; | sort -n | tail -n 1|awk '{print $2}')   /media/home/user
[10:43] <rjharv> anyone in millbank tower? if so can you give mjbarks a kick from me please and tell him i'm heading over
[10:44] <overdub> paulus68, it will send the standard output from any command to the directory specified
[10:44] <ikonia> Horst123: please show us the line in your /etc/hosts file
[10:44] <jonathon> gregoryws, So how come you boast about cd media as the best, considering heat damage and scratches are very dangerous in that area?
[10:44] <Horst123> ikonia: login1.zih.tu-dresden.de	lintud
[10:44] <jonathon> Even cd's used minimally get scratched pretty quick
[10:45] <paulus68> overdub: llutz thanks
[10:45] <Horst123> copied from begin to end of line
[10:45] <llutz> Horst123: man hosts  (ip-adr missing)
[10:45] <jonathon> gregoryws: You work for a CD manufacturer, don't you? <.<  :P
[10:46] <Horst123> llutz: damn, your right... Can't I use the hostname for that?
[10:46] <llutz> Horst123: you can't
[10:47] <gregoryws> jonathon: everything has its failure point, you burn a good-quality 65 cent optical disc and stick it in a $200 fire-resistant safe.  Still less failure chance than all those little semiconductor joints in a hard drive or sd card..
[10:47] <Horst123> There should be a possibility to alias one hostname with another, or?
[10:48] <jonathon> Gregoryws: Damn dude, Are you backing up top secret government files? lol
[10:49] <Kartagis> hi
[10:49] <jonathon> Hello, Friend ^^
[10:49] <gregoryws> jonathon: Nah. Funny, I've only had 1 hard rive failure and 2 flash-ram failures in over 30 years personally.  But I've seen LOTS of other people crying over lost jpegs and such. lol
[10:49] <llutz> Horst123: setup a dns, create a CNAME  for the host. /etc/hosts cannot create aliase without IP  (afaik)
[10:50] <Kartagis> why does libreoffice install when I attempt to install openoffice.org?
[10:50] <jonathon> gregoryws: Thanfully I've had no failures yet, Only time I lose stuff is because I mess it up somehow
[10:50] <Parsind> what is a CNAME?
[10:50] <llutz> Parsind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNAME_record
[10:51] <Horst123> llutz, I think the easiest would be to look up the ip address manually and type it once and give another alias in /etc/hosts. I'm hoping they won't change their IP
[10:52] <vlt> szymon_g: What exactly did you do? Run cfdisk, press “t”, “fd”, “W” …?
[10:53] <Parsind> im way over my head here but doesnt IPV6 makes dns redundant?
[10:53] <szymon_g> vlt, right. i did it. it saved only second partition (the big one). the first one was, in fact saved as ext2
[10:53] <jonathon> Parsind, Not exactly
[10:54] <szymon_g> i.e. it displayed 'raid autodetect', but after writing and exiting cfdisk, and launching it again, it detected this one as ext2
[10:54]  * BiKER-JENS just falled in love with htop
[10:54] <gregoryws> Anybody out there set up a lot of file shares?  I need a good suggestion how to handle sharing sensitive files over my network. SAMBA did not work very well for me at all.  20+ hours down the tubes.
[10:54] <jonathon> DNS applies a name to an IP, ergo it should assign ones to IPV6 just as it does IPV4
[10:54] <llutz> Parsind: if you like to fiddle with ipv6-addresses instead of hostnames, sure
[10:54] <jonathon> gregoryws, Like how many files?
[10:55] <ikonia> gregoryws: you need to give us specific requirements and explain what didn't work for you with samba
[10:55] <Parsind> ist ipv6 built to make its addresses known to other machines on the network
[10:55] <Horst123> Is there a possibility to tell ssh, that I always want to login with a specific username to a certain host?
[10:55] <vlt> szymon_g: Is there an ext2 fs on that partition?
[10:56] <ikonia> Horst123: ssh -l username host or ssh username@host
[10:56] <vlt> szymon_g: If yes, that’s why cfdisk shows it.
[10:56] <llutz> Parsind: addresses aren't hostnames
[10:56] <Horst123> ikonia: I dont want to type the username all time
[10:56] <szymon_g> disk was empty
[10:56] <jonathon> gregoryws, you could try ftp, That's what I use generally to share files between PC's
[10:56] <Horst123> ikonia: so ssh should remember that
[10:56] <ikonia> Horst123: it you don't type a username it will default to your current username
[10:56] <ikonia> ftp is insecure
[10:56] <ikonia> he said secure
[10:56] <pentarex> guys why I cant see setenv.sh file in my tomcat/bin directory ?
[10:57] <ikonia> ponbiki: how did you install tomcat
[10:57] <ikonia> oops
[10:57] <ikonia> pentarex: how did you install tomcat
[10:57] <jonathon> ikonia, he said over his home network, security shouldn't be too big an issue, and you can put a pass on FTP
[10:57] <pentarex> ikonia: it was with the server
[10:57] <xauth> Horst123: ssh_config(5)
[10:57] <szymon_g> vlt: i created 2 partitions: 1 small 130mb, one big 970gb /for lvm/. the big one was properly labelled as raid autodetect, the small one wasn't- after restarting cfdisk cfdisk showed it as ext2 /despite earlier, before writing changes to disks, it recognised it properly/
[10:57] <pentarex> from the installation there was a checkbox what i want to install
[10:57] <llutz> Horst123: add a "User" entry to your ~/.ssh/config for that host
[10:57] <Obituary37> hi
[10:57] <Horst123> thanks!
[10:58] <ikonia> jonathon: he said nothing about a home network and he said sensative files
[10:58] <vlt> szymon_g: What does "hd -v /dev/sda1 | head" look like?
[10:58] <ikonia> pentarex: "with the server" ? what server, have you bought a server from a provider ?
[10:58] <jonathon> ikonia, he says right in his post "Send files over MY Network
[10:58] <ikonia> jonathon: that doesn't mean a home network
[10:58] <ikonia> jonathon: and he also said sensative files
[10:59] <AdvoWork> if ive ssh'd into a machine before, accepted the key etc, then have setup a new machine with the same ip, and have tried to connect, it wont allow me due to it being different, it says: Add correct host key in /home/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.  but how?
[10:59] <ikonia> AdvoWork: remove the key from the known hosts
[10:59] <pentarex> ikonia: when I was installing ubuntu 10.04 LTS server edition there was a checkbox with what do you want to install and tomcat6 was in there for choice. I click it and tomcat6 was instaleld
[10:59] <jonathon> FTP Is still fine, I highly doubt he is going to be under an attack during the transfer, and FTP isn't insecure if you set it up right
[10:59] <ikonia> AdvoWork: or disable host checking
[11:00] <ikonia> jonathon: ftp is totally clear text password and transmission,
[11:00] <gregoryws> ikonia: I don't know why SAMBA didn't work.  I had it working over a week ago.  I tried it yesterday and there's a strange issue.  I need something reliable and I don't see the Ubuntu 11.04 flavor of samba as worth the hours of unsuccessfull troubleshooting.
[11:00] <jonathon> Not if you enable encryption
[11:00] <ikonia> jonathon: yes, it is still clear
[11:00] <szymon_g> vlt, http://www.wklej.org/id/603448/ but its not a problem anymore :) i created partitions in parted program, than i set their type in cfdisk. works fine :)
[11:00] <ikonia> gregoryws: ok - so what type of clients are using this
[11:00] <jonathon> Ikonia, Well for all your dismissing of FTP< You've yet to offer up any suggestions
[11:01] <ikonia> jonathon: because I'm not rushing in with silly comments before understanding the requirements
[11:01] <gregoryws> Easy guys.
[11:01] <ikonia> gregoryws: tell us more about the requirements, what are the clients ?
[11:01] <jonathon> Well let's just see where this goes then...
[11:02] <AdvoWork> ikonia, cheers, done
[11:03] <gregoryws> ikonia, jonathon: I have a home LAN with UBUNTU machines.  I'm looking to segregate my really sensitive files ( password logs, etc.) from my less sensitive: software projects, and family pictures.  I'm hoping to have static shares that auto mount when there available.
[11:04] <janisozaur> hello, I'm using 11.10 and I have a problem of totem (the movie player) being default handler of open-the-folder, i.e. when I click "show file in directory", the totem opens. how do I change it?
[11:04] <jonathon> ikonia, SEE HA, FTP Would be perfect for that
[11:04] <Obituary37> anybody please know why i cannot install new ubuntu? my laptop gets hot and unplugged!!
[11:04] <ikonia> jonathon: you still don't know that
[11:04] <Obituary37> thanks
[11:04] <pentarex> ikonia: did you respond mate because pidgin drops me and I lost contact
[11:04] <jonathon> ikonia, I do know that
[11:04] <ikonia> jonathon: and the difference between finding out inforamtion before recommnding stuff and blindly jumping in is the key, not the actual solution
[11:05] <ikonia> pentarex: sorry I did, I'll change my response though due to a little thought, what is leading you to believe there should be a setenv.sh file there ?
[11:05] <jonathon> ikonia, No, You offer a suggestion, let them determine if that works, if not, work towards a new one
[11:05] <jonathon> In this case, I was right, he can use FTP Just fine
[11:05] <ikonia> jonathon: not if they actually don't understand the implications of what you're saying, I'm just requesting you apply thought to what you recommend
[11:06] <ikonia> gregoryws: are you comfortable transmitting the data clear text and passwords clear text across your home network ?
[11:06] <adam_> hey
[11:07] <jonathon> gregoryws, Clear text is fine for most, The ones with more sensitive information you can encrypt yourself beforehand
[11:07] <jonathon> Which would be the best thing to do regardless
[11:07] <adam_> i made a booboo :( i created a home directory in cmd line called "steve" with comas included now when i 'sudo rm -R /home/"steve"' it says the file deosnt exist :(
[11:07] <ikonia> the username and passwords are still sent in clear text
[11:07] <ikonia> if gregoryws you are comfortable with that, then a lot of options are available to you
[11:07] <adam_> i can see it with ls but cant delete it :(
[11:08] <gregoryws> ikonia: ikonia jonathon: I think I could clear text it at home.  My wireless is encrypted with a very long key...
[11:08] <jonathon> Gregoryws, WPA2 I assume?
[11:08] <ikonia> gregoryws: what OS is the client running ?
[11:09] <fritsch> adam_: easiest way to to do is graphically: gksudo nautilus
[11:09] <jonathon> ikonia, what does it matter?
[11:09] <fritsch> adam_: this runs nautilus as super user
[11:09] <jonathon> ikonia, FTP can run on any client
[11:09] <fritsch> adam_: select the directory and remove it
[11:09] <ikonia> jonathon: because the client will show options
[11:09] <gregoryws> ikonia jonathon: preshared tkip wpa
[11:09] <adam_> fritsch: i dont have a gui set up :( unless i try a live cd
[11:09] <fritsch> adam_: so you have to escape
[11:09] <[poisonborz]> hola, I'm trying to customize the gnome panel clock in 10.04, but no tutorial helped.. I can't find the folder in gconf-editor: there is no "clock_screenX" in /apps/panel/applets, just a "default setup", where changes have no effect.
[11:09] <fritsch> adam_: the dir is called "steve"' with the " and '?
[11:09] <ikonia> jonathon: he doesn't have to use FTP - he may find it easiier to use network shares, or ftp, or http or rsync or whatever, finding out the client will help determian options for him
[11:09] <jonathon> ikonia, See that's your problem here, You're trying to overcomplicate this
[11:09] <jonathon> gregoryws, Awesome :D
[11:10] <ikonia> jonathon: no, I'm trying to find a solution that is best for him, rather then blindly ram a solution down someones through
[11:10] <ikonia> thoat
[11:10] <jonathon> ikonia, Overcomplication plain and simple <.<
[11:10] <fritsch> adam_: rm -rf \"steve\"\' will delete a dir calle "steve"' with " in front and "' behind
[11:10] <ikonia> jonathon: no, understanding the users request and guiding
[11:11] <jonathon> ikonia, which is what I did but faster, He wants to transfer files, plain text is fine, Ans ftp take slike 10 minutes at most to set up, so it's simple, fast, and does what he needs
[11:11] <gregoryws> jonatho ikonia: Please, you are awesome for just trying to help:) I'll research before I implement.  Just looking for a good general direction is all.
[11:12] <ikonia> jonathon: I have no issue with you suggesting ftp, I am requesting you think about the users needs not what you want him to use
[11:12] <ikonia> gregoryws: what OS is the client running ?
[11:13] <jonathon> gregoryws, I RECOMMEND checking out FTP, for it's simplicity, but feel free to research 500 other alternitives that ikonia would like to mnention after 4 hours of detail discussion
[11:13] <gregoryws> ikonia:  ubuntu is the only OS I need for my sensitive stuff:)
[11:14] <ikonia> gregoryws: even the client ?
[11:14] <gregoryws> ikonia: I might try my android phone, but I'm leary of it's security so it's just Ubuntu for now.
[11:15] <babilen> jonathon: One time transfer? I am kinda fond of running "python3 -m http.server" or "python -m SimpleHTTPServer" in the directory that I want to share on http://$HOST:8000/
[11:15] <ahhughez_> does anyone here have a init.d script that works for pms-linux ?
[11:15] <M0TRN_th1> how can I get rid of those annoying "floating/autohide" scroll bars ? the little f*ckers don't work in half of my apps
[11:15] <gregoryws> jonathon:  I'll check out FTP.  Thanks :)
[11:16] <M0TRN_th1> ahhughez_, pms-linux lol
[11:17] <adam_> ty fritsch
[11:18] <pentarex> ikonia: I want to increase my java heap size and I read in google that there must be a setenv.sh in /usr/share/tomcat6/bin directory
[11:21] <iceroot> pentarex: its a normal shell-var which can also be placed in ~/.bashrc
[11:22]  * samsul is away: samsul
[11:23]  * samsul is away: samsul
[11:23]  * samsul is away: samsul
[11:23]  * samsul is away: apa ya?
[11:24] <bazhang> !away > samsul
[11:25] <samsul> i'm sorry... my bad.. i did not mean to...
[11:26] <GirlyGirl> What can be done to speed up unity on a system with Intel Gma 945G Express (Arkendale 27ae)? The same car performs fine with kde but on unity its laggy
[11:26] <bazhang> GirlyGirl, use unity-2d ? not sure what you mean by laggy
[11:27] <Kaleidoscope> Girlygirl, Did you check your video drivers to make sure you got the latest?
[11:28] <kleopatra> How do i delete all files that end with .xxx and do not begin with xyz  ?
[11:29] <iceroot> kleopatra: #bash
[11:30] <GirlyGirl> bazhang: Kaleidoscope  Driver is latest, No I do not want to use 2d and was just trying out unity. I was wondering if there was a solution to the slow graphics that's all. KDE is my main system
[11:31] <Kaleidoscope> Girlygirl, Sorry, no Idea here
[11:34] <AdvoWork> i see webmin is now unsupported, does it have a alternative, or something similar?
[11:34] <bazhang> !ebox | AdvoWork
[11:36] <z0mbix> kleopatra: You could use something like this: for file in `ls *.xxx|grep -v ^xyz`; do rm $file; done
[11:39] <geirha> z0mbix: No, that's dangerous
[11:41] <Parsind> does rm moves files to the recicle bin?
[11:41] <z0mbix> Parsind: no
[11:41] <z0mbix> geirha: how?
[11:42] <jrib> kleopatra: you should use find
[11:44] <georgeb> hey, if there a preferred method for setting static network settings in ubuntu?
[11:44] <iuytfr> hello
[11:44] <jrib> georgeb: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-fixed-ip-address.html
[11:44] <kleopatra> in bash they told me about extglob, which seems pretty powerful and easy to use, thx
[11:45] <sh00p> ok so this is weird... I have /etc/init.d/networking... but nowhere in my /etc/rc*.d/ is there a link to iw
[11:45] <sh00p> to it*
[11:45] <sh00p> how can it be active when I boot up?
[11:45] <geirha> z0mbix: You risk removing the wrong files
[11:45] <AdvoWork> ive just done sudo apt-get install “^ebox-.*”   how can i undo that/remove, just sudo apt-get remove ".. ?
[11:45] <z0mbix> geirha: that will remove only the files kleopatra specified
[11:46] <jrib> !upstart | sh00p
[11:46] <geirha> z0mbix: Not if any of the filenames contain whitespace, or glob characters
[11:46] <iuytfr> Hello
[11:46] <iuytfr> tehre
[11:47] <jrib> kleopatra: what's the solution using extglob?L
[11:47] <iuytfr> is it possible to send message broadcast messenge ?
[11:47] <ubuntu_> running 11.04; wanted to sudo apt-get snownews, but no luck :(
[11:47] <kleopatra> jrib: rm !(xyz)*.xxx
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: sudo apt-get remove `dpkg -l | grep ebox- | awk '{print $2}'`
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !info snownews
[11:48] <iuytfr> is it possible to send message broadcast messenge ?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> iuytfr: to whom?
[11:48] <geirha> kleopatra: rm !(xyz*).xxx
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: something like that?
[11:48] <phaedral> ActionParsnip: thanks for trying; looks like there's been a move away from providing console apps for us luddites
[11:48] <th0r> iuytfr: wall?
[11:49] <kleopatra> BTW: is #gnuplot the right channel for gnuplot question or another server?
[11:49] <Atharva> Hi....
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> phaedral: console ftw :)
[11:49] <Atharva> Is there any browser which can operate in terminal ?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: gah, it's not good, the guys in #bash will have some awesomeness
[11:50] <iuytfr> to other
[11:50] <iuytfr> user
[11:50] <AdvoWork> ActionParsnip, ok thanks for the help :)
[11:50] <phaedral> ActionParsnip: yeah, I know, it's a bad habit I should shake. Think I'll try #! on this pendrive. Cheers
[11:50] <AdvoWork> why is webmin no longer support, any ideas?
[11:51] <iceroot> AdvoWork: lynx, w3m
[11:51] <iceroot> AdvoWork: its bad, useless, not working with the way debian/ubuntu are configuring things
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> !webmin
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> !ebox
[11:51] <th0r> iuytfr: I was serious...the command is wall
[11:51] <AdvoWork> ahh ok, i just tried installing ebox and it kept asking about ldap, which is irrelevant? all installed but then i tried IP/ebox and nothing
[11:52] <iceroot> AdvoWork: if you are an admin of a server and want to use webmin or other things like that. its a good idea to learn something about linux instead of using strange web-based guis
[11:53] <AdvoWork> iceroot, i normally do things without a gui anyway, im considering sticking that way
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> sticking to CLI means your skills are transferable between distros too :)
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[11:53] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[11:53] <iuytfr> th0r: wall ?
[11:54] <iuytfr> how it works ?
[11:54] <th0r> iuytfr: open a terminal and type 'man wall'
[11:55] <iuytfr>  wall — write a message to users
[11:56] <iuytfr> but i m talking is it send message to users who are on the same network
[11:56] <iceroot> iuytfr: something like "echo foo | wall" this should write to all open shells "foo"
[11:56] <iceroot> iuytfr: all using the same system on the network?
[11:57] <iuytfr> yes
[11:57] <Kartagis> why does libreoffice install when I attempt to install openoffice.org?
[11:57] <jrib> Kartagis: because libreoffice has replaced openoffice
[11:58] <iceroot> Kartagis: there is no openoffice anymore in ubuntu/debian
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> !info openoffice.org
[11:58] <iceroot> iuytfr: imo there was the tool "talk" or "chat"
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> it is still in the repos, even in oneiric
[11:58] <jrib> ActionParsnip: did you see the package descriptions?
[11:58] <Kartagis> that's why I'm asking
[11:58] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: its not openoffice.org
[11:58] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: inside the packqage
[11:59] <jrib> Kartagis: read the package description of what you are installing
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: then its named badly and should be sorted
[11:59] <Kartagis> jrib: apt-get install open<Tab> brings it up
[11:59] <jrib> Kartagis: yes, now read the description.
[11:59] <iuytfr> ok thanks to all
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: i'm gussing its some metapackage for old school users
[11:59] <diurno> hola a todos
[11:59] <bazhang> !es | diurno
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> jrib: I don't use or have software centre  / synaptic installed
[12:00] <Kartagis> This is a transitional package, replacing the OpenOffice.org packaging with the LibreOffice packaging.
[12:00] <jrib> ActionParsnip: apt-cache show openoffice.org
[12:00] <jrib> Kartagis: mystery solved? :D
[12:00] <Kartagis> yes
[12:00] <Kartagis> thanks
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> jrib: ahh wasn't aware of 'show'  cheers dude
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> mystery solved indeed
[12:01] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: its a metapackage, conflictng with openoffice and installing libreoffice
[12:01]  * ActionParsnip uses abiword, and doesn't use libreoffice
[12:01] <xinyi> i got something wrong with dbus
[12:01] <xinyi> bin # thunderbird
[12:01] <xinyi> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: The connection is closed)
[12:01] <xinyi> g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting.
[12:01] <xinyi> /usr/bin/thunderbird: line 130: 26109 Terminated              $MOZ_PROGRAM "$@"
[12:01] <FloodBot1> xinyi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <xinyi> who can tell me howto?
[12:03] <xinyi> should i install a dbus packet?
[12:03] <iceroot> xinyi: dbus is already installed
[12:03] <iceroot> xinyi: what is the output of "ps aux | grep dbus"
[12:03] <iceroot> xinyi: is dbus running in ps aux?
[12:04] <xinyi> 01       1253  0.1  0.0   3764  1964 ?        Ss   17:18   0:14 /bin/dbus-daemon --system
[12:04] <xinyi> zpw       2442  0.0  0.0   3420   712 ?        S    17:18   0:00 dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session
[12:04] <xinyi> zpw       2443  0.0  0.0   3920  1620 ?        Ss   17:18   0:01 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
[12:04] <xinyi> zpw      27173  0.0  0.0   3664   732 pts/3    S+   20:02   0:00 grep dbus
[12:04] <FloodBot1> xinyi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <iceroot> xinyi: what ubuntu-version is that?
[12:05] <xinyi> opensuse 11.4
[12:05] <bazhang> #suse xinyi
[12:05] <iceroot> xinyi: not supported here, try #opensuse instead
[12:08] <xinyi> the last question, i unchechked the dbus whilst updating, is this the problem?
[12:08] <bazhang> xinyi, suse is not supported here, try their channel
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> xinyi: your distribution is not supported here, this is ubuntu support ONLY. Ask in #opensuse that is the channel for your distribution, not here
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> SOme people need telling twice, no idea why but it gets there
[12:21] <cantonic> hey guys. i am quite new to linux. i have opened a manuel with the "man" command, but how to close the man again?
[12:22] <NotAnonymous> CTRL+C
[12:22] <Pici> cantonic: q
[12:22] <BluesKaj> cantonic, the Q
[12:23] <cantonic> thank you very much guys. q worked :)
[12:23] <cantonic> i am starting with ubuntu server (don't want a gui)
[12:23] <cantonic> and i will use it for installing several virtual machines on it. hope it is not toooo complicated
[12:23] <NotAnonymous> sounds painful :p
[12:24] <NotAnonymous> why not use GUI? GUI can be handy
[12:24] <NotAnonymous> and once you have setup your server just disable the GUI
[12:25] <cantonic> NotAnonymous: nah, i already have succesfully installed ubuntu server. now i am trying to build the VMs but i get an error each time when starting the vm. sudo virt-viewer vm1 brings a "cannot open display" error
[12:25] <Nucivar> hi
[12:25] <cantonic> NotAnonymous: I tried that. i installed a gui (is it called gnom?) but i could not deactivate it again...
[12:26] <NotAnonymous> sure you can.. you just have to uninstall it once you're done
[12:26] <NotAnonymous> if you hit CTRL+ALT+F1 you go from GUI to terminal directly
[12:27] <NotAnonymous> and from there you can kill/uninstall all the GUIs
[12:27] <cantonic> NotAnonymous: which gui should i use on an ubuntu server?
[12:28] <NotAnonymous> you can use any you want.. Gnome works fine
[12:28] <th0r> cantonic: something lightweight...lxde might be a good choice
[12:28] <cantonic> NotAnonymous: nah, Gnome is too heavy for a server
[12:29] <cantonic> th0r: thank you. i will try this one
[12:29] <NotAnonymous> well if you are going to use GUI temporarily then lightweight is not a big issue :)
[12:29] <th0r> cantonic: lxde or maybe xfce...I would suggest trying lxde first
[12:30] <cantonic> NotAnonymous: I have to run several virtual machines on that pc and a gui like gnome could vanish a lot of my system ressources… that's what i fear
[12:30] <jrib> cantonic: why even install one then...
[12:30] <th0r> cantonic: and you might look into disabling X and lxde instead of uninstalling them. Or even let them run but don't log into the gui...that way it is there if you want it.
[12:30] <cantonic> jrib: because i try to install VMs but fail :(
[12:31] <jrib> cantonic: don't use gui tools to do so?
[12:31] <th0r> jrib: there are times when there is a gui app that does something just so much easier
[12:31] <cantonic> th0r: what is X?
[12:31] <cantonic> jrib: yeah, i try to install using shell but get errors :(
[12:31] <th0r> cantonic: X is the underlying framework that makes gui environments work
[12:31] <jrib> cantonic: installing gui would not affect that then
[12:32] <cantonic> jrib: maybe… the error message i get when starting windows 7 virtual machine is "cannot open display"
[12:32] <cantonic> sounds like it cannot run gui
[12:32] <NotAnonymous> installing Gnome, xfce etc. will install X automatically
[12:32] <cantonic> i wanted to connect using vnc...
[12:32] <jrib> cantonic: anyway installing a gui will not really have any effect.  You don't even need to uninstall it, just don't start it once you are done
[12:32] <cantonic> but dunno how
[12:33] <jrib> cantonic: you need a gui for vnc
[12:33]  * tMH- is gone. nsf
[12:33] <jrib> !away > tMH-
[12:33] <cantonic> jrib: on a previous installation of ubuntu server i installed gnome and could not exit it again as it loaded automatically
[12:33] <jrib> cantonic: just add "text" to your kernel line
[12:34] <th0r> cantonic: if you want to run vnc you won't be disabling it anyway...it has to be running
[12:34] <jrib> right
[12:34] <cantonic> jrib: sorry, don't understand that :(
[12:35] <cantonic> what i understood is: "i need a gui to connec to a vm via vnc"
[12:35] <jrib> cantonic: in /etc/default/grub you would add " text" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[12:35] <jrib> cantonic: yes, that's true.  If at some point you no longer want to the gui to start automatically, then you can do what I said in /etc/default/grub
[12:36] <cantonic> ah nice! i see! so grub controls which apps to start on system boot?
[12:37] <jrib> cantonic: no, but the gdm init script checks if you used "text" in your kernel line
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> cantonic: you can also tell kernel moudules to not load too
[12:37] <NotAnonymous> personally I would just uninstall the gnome. Much faster than digging into config files and grub
[12:38] <cantonic> NotAnonymous: yeah, but if you need it you would have to install it again...
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> NotAnonymous: hardly, plus it's more destructive to remove all the packages
[12:38] <jrib> cantonic: if you need to start it, you can just do « sudo service gdm start » after the machine boots
[12:38] <cantonic> so ok. i have no gui so i cannot open the virtual machine. i understand that. but i should be able connecting from another computer to the VM using VNC, right?
[12:39] <NotAnonymous> how can uninstalling be destructive? oO
[12:39] <jrib> cantonic: right
[12:39] <cantonic> jrib: but it does not connect. i see that the vm is running when typing in "virsh -c qemu:///system list"
[12:39] <cantonic> unfortunately it doesn't show the VNC-Port
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> NotAnonymous: its removes the files, if you just add the boot option, the files are still present but are not used, the change can be rolled back easily. Uninstalling all the packages requires reinstallation of packages. Its simply not necessary
[12:40] <PanArtur> cantonic: if you disconnect your monitor cable the X won't start.
[12:40] <orated> Hello! I've few backup files in tar.bz2 format in desktop. I can connect/transfer files from desktop to laptop with ssh/scp. Since I'm out of space, is it possible that I uncompress  and also delete the files uncompressed initially?
[12:40] <jrib> orated: you could uncompress during the transfer, would that work?
[12:41] <orated> jrib: I'd like to do that!
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> orated: do you have excess kernels? You can remove those to free up space
[12:41] <jrib> orated: ok, I'm pretty sure you can but I don't recall how atm :)
[12:41] <NotAnonymous> ActionParsnip oh ok. I thought you meant it was going to break the system or sth somehow
[12:41] <orated> jrib: duh
[12:41] <orated> ActionParsnip: nope
[12:41] <jrib> orated: that's code for "google with me"
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> NotAnonymous: it wont break it per se, it just removes data when you can just tell the OS to not use it
[12:42] <dell_> i am getting these error:   dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  firmware-b43-installer
[12:42] <jrib> orated: I think tar can read from stdin
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> dell_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:42] <orated> jrib: Oh, you mean pipe it ?
[12:42] <delinquentme> could anyone make a suggestion as to what channel would be good to ask questions on floating point math in? .. perhaps a general CS chat room?
[12:42] <orated> jrib:  using | and  >
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> orated: could mount the sshfs and copy it like a regular file copy
[12:43] <dell_> ActionParsni_ : maverick
[12:44] <dell_>  ActionParsnip_ : maverick
[12:44] <iuytfr> hello
[12:44] <jrib> orated: yeah just use ssh to cat the tar.bz2 to the server and pipe that output to "tar xvf -".  That should work.  Try with a small file to test.  ActionParsnip has a good suggestion too.
[12:44] <sangelion> hi..
[12:44] <iuytfr> how to send message over terminal like that : send message to IP ?
[12:45] <orated> Could you elaborate ActionParsnip ?
[12:46] <PanArtur> iuytfr: http://goo.gl/UO1cV
[12:46] <cantonic> does somebody know where the settings are stores which i used when creating a vm with virt-install?
[12:46] <iuytfr> like this
[12:46] <iuytfr> net send 172.16.6.99 "hello"
[12:47] <iuytfr> i need something like that
[12:47] <iuytfr> how to do ?
[12:48] <iuytfr> net send IP destination "hello"
[12:48] <PanArtur> iuytfr: what do you want to see on destination pl
[12:48] <PanArtur> pc*
[12:49] <iuytfr> i simply want to send
[12:49] <iuytfr> like this
[12:49] <iuytfr> net send 172.16.6.99 "hello"
[12:49] <iuytfr> 172.16.6.99 is the destination IP
[12:49] <tomodachi> iuytfr: net send functionality has been locked down for years since it was abused so much
[12:50] <PanArtur> iuytfr: http://goo.gl/qxXHE have you tried this? but in my opinion you should use notify-send over ssh
[12:50] <iuytfr> no i don't like that one PanArtur
[12:50] <orated> jrib: You said cat to the server, what server?
[12:51] <iuytfr> that command works on windows what you don't work on linux ?
[12:51] <PanArtur> iuytfr: maybe make an alias to this command
[12:51] <jrib> orated: when you ssh there is a machine acting as server and one acting as client
[12:51] <iuytfr> how ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> iuytfr:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcastAlertWithSound
[12:52] <PanArtur> alias send=[command to send "$1"]
[12:53] <KamZou> Hello, i've a problem with my DHCP & DDNS, cause during a certain period, the dhcpd remove the RR's and not re-write it for some minutes / hours. Any idea ?
[12:53] <tmus> Does Ubuntu have a certification like RedHat has the RHEL?
[12:54] <norbert79> Good day. Have an interesting question for you all: Is it anyhow possible limiting .fonts.conf for one application, when started? I would like to configure only one application making autohints disabled for it, yet .fonts.conf applies settings session-wide. Now I know some shell scripts might do some workaround, but I am merely looking for something long term, without using additional shell scripts.
[12:54] <KamZou> here an example of my DHCP & DDNS problem : http://pastebin.com/7wbDys0r
[12:54] <PanArtur> iuytfr: if you write this command to your .bashrc alias will be created autotaticly after login
[12:55] <iuytfr> ActionParsnip: you mean i have to do installation on each pc ?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> tmus: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training
[12:55] <iridium> norbert79, reason to do that? (I'm asking because is unlikely)
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> iuytfr: not sure, just found it
[12:56] <norbert79> iridium: Very basic issue: Hate the automatic font-hinting in Wine. Since changing that has been removed since 1.2, Wine relies on Xft. Now if I apply .fonts.conf, it gets applied session-wide... Real ugly.
[12:56] <iridium> I will answer you in pm
[12:57] <norbert79> iridium: Cheers
[12:57] <tmus> ActionParsnip, thanks...
[12:57] <KamZou> anyone good at dhcp & ddns questions ?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> norbert79: have you asked in #winehq too
[12:58] <norbert79> ActionParsnip: Well, question isn't really based on Wine, could be any application
[12:58] <alessia> ciao
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> norbert79: but any app in wine, right?
[12:58] <alessia> !list
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> !fonts
[12:58] <norbert79> ActionParsnip: No
[12:59] <norbert79> ActionParsnip: Basically I was merely looking for a methodf controlling font hinting appl,ication based
[12:59] <norbert79> ActionParsnip: ANY application
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> norbert79: ah, I see. You just mentioned wine and it seemed to relate purely to that
[12:59] <norbert79> ActionParsnip: I see. No, wasn't really the goal
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> norbert79: np man, its clear now
[13:00] <orated> jrib: ActionParsnip: Right. In my case its between 192.168.2.100 and 192.168.2.101, devices connected to same network. It goes to the local hub and then to the local machine. It only stays inside the local internal network.
[13:00] <dell_> ActionParsnip : The output of  lsb_release -sc : maverick
[13:00] <jrib> orated: that's fine.
[13:00] <sveinse> I'm struggling with getting my e1000e nic up and running (on a Dell laptop). dmesg finds the nic, and reports eth0: link is not ready. However ethtool sais that there is no eth0... What can I do?
[13:00] <dell_>  The output of  lsb_release -sc : maverick
[13:01] <orated> jrib: I meant to say there is nothing like server wherein the temporary operation of cat will take place
[13:01] <AdvoWork> on an old system i used to do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql  but how can i do that on 10.04?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: if you unload then reload the driver module, does it work?
[13:02] <jrib> orated: you have openssh-server running on one of the machines, yes?
[13:02] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[13:02] <orated> jrib: yes
[13:02] <jrib> orated: good, that's your server
[13:03] <dell_> i am getting these error:   dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  firmware-b43-installer  The output of  lsb_release -sc : maverick
[13:03] <norbert79> ActionParsnip: Since of your silence I can assume you have no ideas either :)
[13:03] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: The thing is ifconfig lists eth0, but I cannot ethtool it for some reason.
[13:03] <AdvoWork> i keep getting sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found  any ideas?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> norbert79: correct, I have no idea of fonts, never had an issue (either that or I simply don't care about 'ugly' fonts)
[13:03] <jrib> AdvoWork: what ubuntu version?
[13:04] <AdvoWork> jrgp, 10.04 server
[13:04] <orated> ActionParsnip: Could you aleaborate on sshd way?
[13:04] <orated> elaborate*
[13:04] <norbert79> ActionParsnip: I see... Thank you though :)
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: install python-software-properties
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> orated: mount the sshfs, there are guides around
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: does it get an ip?
[13:05] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: No. dhclient just sits there doing nothing
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: ok then run:  dmesg | less    and see what happens during boot with the interface during startup
[13:07] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: The kernel log sais that it's found the NIC, configures it (PCI wise). The two last messages are eth0: link is not ready and PME# enabled. But I should be able to reach eth0 using ethtool even if there is no link
[13:08] <theotherone> When my pc uses many memory from swap, sometimes it crashes with black screen, and error "sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled error code" "sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK" What to do?
[13:10] <cantonic> guys, when entering "virt-install --help" the list is too long. how can i read the text at the top?
[13:10] <orated> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: if you run:  sudo rfkill list    is it blocked?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> orated: nautilus can mount sshfs
[13:10] <barkode> less|virt-install --help
[13:11] <orated> ActionParsnip: I don't know properly about it. I just have sshfs installed
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> orated: its like samba, but secure
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> orated: you can mount it using nautilus
[13:12] <orated> ActionParsnip: But it will eventually take space in desktop?
[13:12] <orated> ActionParsnip: I mean the process of uncompressing and extracting
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> orated: you can extract to the mounted sshfs, the kernel will manage the transfer
[13:13] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: It didn't come up in this list.. Strange
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> orated: the remote storage will appear as a local folder
[13:13] <norbert79> see you
[13:13] <RobinJ> can anyone try and see in this dmesg what just caused to freeze the system twice? http://paste.ubuntu.com/702742/
[13:13] <cantonic> barkode: thank you very much
[13:13] <RobinJ> getting a bit sick of this, no'one keeps using an os that keeps freezing
[13:14] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Should eth0 show up in rfkill? eth0 is wired NIC not wireless...
[13:14] <barkode> np
[13:15] <orated> ActionParsnip: Then what's the use of sshfs when one can transfer the folder where all the files are uncompressed and extracted?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> orated: you can extract the files TO the remote directory,keeping the source archive on your client
[13:16] <barkode> lol kermit. lord nikons pw in hackers
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: i guess, after you remove then reload the module. run:  dmesg | tail   it may give clues
[13:16] <tendi> I have xubuntu 11.04 and I want to switch it from Xfce to gnome
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> tendi: select it at login
[13:17] <dell_> i am getting these error:   dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  firmware-b43-installer
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> tendi: backup your /home and reinstall is the fastest and easiest way
[13:17] <tendi> dont I have to install something first
[13:17] <tendi> does it come by defualt with xubuntu
[13:18] <barkode> you might have to install gnome then purge xcfe if you wanna
[13:18] <cantonic> guys, i created a virtual machine using virt-install, but how can i delete that virtual machine including all dependencies?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> tendi: does wqat come wome with xubuntu?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> tendi: it will need installing if you have xubuntu
[13:18] <barkode> depends on how big your iso was
[13:18] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: No clues in dmesg. I see from google that others have similar problems with this driver. It could be something
[13:18] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[13:18] <cantonic> barkode: was that to me?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: check for bug reports
[13:18] <barkode> hey sobre
[13:18] <cantonic> hi sobersabre
[13:19] <sobersabre> I have tried using several remote access gui tools. and each ... had some problems.
[13:19] <orated> ActionParsnip: The remote directory will be part of desktop / ?
[13:19] <barkode> no cantonic. never used virt-install
[13:19] <tendi> so wat do i have to install because i have xubuntu
[13:20] <EftarjinK> Hi. Can someone with full $HOME encryption with ecryptfs tell me what files you have in /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs? It seems I’m missing something
[13:20] <barkode> can you apt-get to get gnome?
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> !gnome| tendi
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> tendi: backup your /home and then install ubuntu is the fastest and easiest way
[13:22] <tendi> wat is the desktop environment now for ubuntu 11.04
[13:22] <Stanley00> tendi: it's unity
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> orated: its the same as mounting a share
[13:22] <tendi> so can i install unity on xubuntu 11.04?
[13:22] <barkode> i been usin kubuntu, but i might be unity a try
[13:23] <Olleh> actually the fastest and easiest way is to just apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> tendi: or you can use ubuntu classic
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-desktop-environment
[13:23] <Olleh> or if you want just a minimal install, just install gnome-core, gdm, and maybe a theme
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> tendi: sure, unity is just a plugin for compiz
[13:23] <barkode> tendi. go to the ubuntu homepage, and download the default...\
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> tendi: if you switch the xfce window manager for compiz,you can use unity
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> tendi: backup your /home, get rid of Xubuntu and then install Ubuntu
[13:24] <zmbmartin> noisewaterphd: not sure if you are interested but I solved my flash file browser issue by installing ia32-libs.
[13:26] <orated> ActionParsnip: Ok, I'll read and try it. The problem is that I'm out of space on both laptop and desktop and the parts of the bz2 are stored in three different partitions. So is there to configure to cat to ask for each next part to cat?
[13:26] <orated> there a way to*(
[13:27] <Stanley00> orated: why dont you use >> instead of >?
[13:28] <orated> Stanley00: >> to add to the starting of file? How will it help?
[13:28] <dai> hey, how do I give myself permission to copy files into /usr/share/ ?
[13:28] <TuxOtaku> hey, I'm on 11.04 and I keep having a really weird problem with compiz. Windows which are all sitting on separate desktops will spontaneously all bunch together onto one desktop
[13:29] <TuxOtaku> I thought it might be something to do with the fact that I was running Conky
[13:29] <Stanley00> orated: >> append to a file, afaik, not from the starting...
[13:29] <barkode> chmod
[13:29] <TuxOtaku> but even without conky running, it still happens
[13:29] <fmauro> dai: with chmod, but what is it you're trying to acheive?
[13:30] <barkode> dai. how locked down do you want /usr/share/
[13:30] <barkode> is it a single user system?
[13:31] <chrisvtx> hi
[13:31] <chrisvtx> need help with inconsistent ftp performance.
[13:31] <chrisvtx> i have ubuntu 10.10
[13:32] <chrisvtx> with vsftpd installed and service running.
[13:32] <ljsoftnet> your downloading something?
[13:32] <barkode> with konquorer or dolphin?
[13:32] <orated> Stanley00: Is there any way to configure cat so that it asks for next file to cat?
[13:32] <chrisvtx> when i connect via ftp with filezilla
[13:32] <chrisvtx> the connection will work about 20% of the time.
[13:33] <chrisvtx> most of the time ftp fails and i get this error in filezilla:
[13:33] <chrisvtx> Status:	Connecting to 192.168.1.106:21...
[13:33] <chrisvtx> Status:	Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
[13:33] <chrisvtx> Error:	Connection timed out
[13:33] <chrisvtx> Error:	Could not connect to server
[13:33] <FloodBot1> chrisvtx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <Stanley00> orated: afaik, there isnt.
[13:33] <barkode> orated. script?
[13:34] <dai> fmauro: barkode  oh crap there was no beep whenyou guys replied, I'm trying to install a screen saver on ubuntu, the tutorial said to save the folders in /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/ but i can't write into that folder
[13:34] <orated> barkode: umm not sure
[13:36] <Dice-Man> hello
[13:36] <Dice-Man> i want to install 4 gig of ram on my laptop, i'm actually running lucid 32 bits should i move to 64 ?
[13:39] <Stanley00> Dice-Man: pae kernel will also recognize all your ram, give it a shot first...
[13:39] <Dice-Man> Stanley00: you mean on my 32 bits version ?
[13:40] <Stanley00> Dice-Man: yes. pae kernel and 32 bits system
[13:40] <Dice-Man> okay
[13:40] <Dice-Man> hum are there any other warnings ? i want to install the ram on a netbook
[13:41] <Stanley00> Dice-Man: I'm not sure actually, just know that it exist, I have never tested it.
[13:41] <Guest20673> hj
[13:42] <b0ot> Are there any tools out there that help with configuration. I'm looking for something where a user can select something... see some stats, and as the user selects various other accessories the stats change. Each item the user selects should have optional linked accessories etc
[13:42] <hj> Guest20673 --> ×àê?
[13:42] <Dice-Man> Stanley00: okay then i'll test :), it's one module of 4 gig ram :)
[13:43] <Stanley00> Dice-Man: Good luck! ;))
[13:43] <Guest20673> äàäà
[13:43] <Guest20673> ÿ
[13:44] <Benkinooby> hi, i am right now playing around with some ipv6 sit tunneling... some1 here how can help me a bit further? or a place/channel where i could ask
[13:44] <hj> Ýé âû ÷åðíûå óáëþäêè
[13:44] <hj> ñîñèòå íàõóé
[13:44] <hj> ïèäàðàñû
[13:44] <FloodBot1> hj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:44] <hj> ñóêà
[13:44] <hj> .!.
[13:44] <hj> ñîñè íàõóé
[13:44] <asdjaputra> ops?
[13:44] <PanArtur> b0ot: what are you talking about? do you mean ubuntu-tweak?
[13:45] <Sakha> Amerikosy Yakut and we know that we have developed what you =)
[13:46] <Sakha> Yakutia taxis, and you are a pathetic =)
[13:47] <hj> Õàõàõàõàõõà
[13:47] <LjL> hj: stop
[13:47] <hj> LjL --> ïàøîë íàõóé
[13:47] <hj> ïèäàðàñ
[13:47] <genii-around> !ru | hj
[13:47] <hj> ubottu --> èäè íàõóé
[13:47] <hj> ïèäàðàñ
[13:47] <asdjaputra> wait?
[13:47] <asdjaputra> are those russian?
[13:47] <LjL> if they are they aren't using Unicode, but i guess so. KOI-8
[13:48] <genii-around> asdjaputra: Their hostmask indicated Russia as origin
[13:48] <asdjaputra> genii-around, true, or they're just testing their charmap?
[13:48] <Sakha> » asdjaputra » » as yes
[13:49] <Sakha> yes
[13:49] <Sakha> =)
[13:49] <LjL> Sakha: well, please use #test for testing
[13:49] <Sakha> » asdjaputra » not Russian, and Yakut
[13:50] <Sakha> » LjL » what?
[13:51] <LjL> Sakha: if you and hj are testing keyboard, use #test
[13:52] <Sakha> » LjL » and why do we test? no thank you inappropriately! I'll manage
[13:53] <asdjaputra> hj also floods in #debian
[13:53] <alaing> how do i install open office from the command line?
[13:54] <Pici> asdjaputra: We have no control over than channel.
[13:54] <asdjaputra> of course
[13:54] <asdjaputra> i'm just telling
[13:54] <Sakha> » LjL » I went to the channel test and what I do there? Explain please
[13:54] <xgt001> hello i need a good task manager which has good integration with hamster
[13:55] <xgt001> please suggest
[13:55] <asdjaputra> Sakha, if you're testing your new keyboard layout, or unicode characters
[13:55] <zykotick9> alaing, open a terminal and type "open" then TAB (x2) to get all the options starting with open (sorry i have LibreOffice installed so can't check on my system)
[13:55] <asdjaputra> if you wouldn't need to be there
[13:56] <codefriar> I see on launchpad that version 6.26-1 for sun-java6-jre exists, but i can't figure out how to get apt-get to see it. do I need to add some kind of ppa? for : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/sun-java6-jre/6.26-1lucid1
[13:56] <Pici> codefriar: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:56] <codefriar> lucid
[13:56] <codefriar> 10.04
[13:57] <Pici> codefriar: Its in the partner repo then.
[13:57] <Pici> !partner | codefriar
[13:57] <compdoc> alaing, its called libreoffice now
[13:57] <RevTorA> Hey everyone... I'm getting rather poor video playback performance on my new ubuntu system. On this same PC running windows 7 I had no issue playing videos but on this system, videos both offline and online run with lower FPS than they should be. Ideas?
[13:57] <Sakha> » LjL » Americans tupite you like it! Che is all gloomy! Negros all =))) hahaha I'm going out of luck Irk province !=)))
[13:57] <zykotick9> alaing, sorry you said install, I was thinking you asked how to start it (sorry my mistake)
[14:00] <compdoc> zykotick9, that tab tab thing is a neat trick
[14:00] <PanArtur> alaing: sudo aptitude install openoffice or apt-get instead aptitude
[14:01] <fmauro> dai: just copy it via terminal and prepend sudo to the copy command and you should be fine
[14:01] <PanArtur> RevTorA: what is your GPU?
[14:01] <xgt001> anyone???
[14:01] <RevTorA> 9600M GT
[14:01] <g0rs> when skype is started, skype disappears after start and wont dock into system tray after it is closed. Is it something to do with desktop theme? I chose current desktop theme. Any ideas?
[14:02] <twoten210> I just installed Ubuntu Studio 11.04 onto my Ubuntu 11 box and I get a blank screen at startup, I can't even see the grub menu
[14:02] <PanArtur> RevTorA: have you installed nvidia-current package?
[14:03] <twoten210> I can boot into rescue mode and run mc
[14:03] <RevTorA> PanArtur: Hrm... don't think so, let me check. I only installed the proprietary drivers through the "Additional Drivers" setup
[14:03] <PanArtur> twoten210: to see grub menu hold shift after bios post screen
[14:03] <alaing> Thanks PanArtur and zykotick9 and compdoc
[14:04] <alaing> i 'll try that now
[14:04] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: Are you with the default settings of Ubuntu
[14:04] <RevTorA> PanArtur: According to apt-get, I have indeed the latest version of nvidia-current
[14:05] <PanArtur> RevTorA: open terminal and write sudo nvidia-xconfig - then reboot
[14:05] <twoten210> ok , I'm just doing an apt-get install nvidia-current right now
[14:05] <RevTorA> PanArtur: Alright, bbiab
[14:05] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: yes, I chose default settings in skype and even tried a few alternatives like oxygen
[14:05] <RevTorA> PanArtur: There was an error, should I still reboot?
[14:05] <PanArtur> twoten210: what is your GPU
[14:06] <zykotick9> RevTorA, FYI if you using nvidia you can use VDPAU as a video output with mplayer (you might need to install libvdpau1)
[14:06] <PanArtur> RevTorA: what error?
[14:06] <twoten210> it's an nvidia 6800 on the motherboard
[14:06] <RevTorA> PanArtur: v
[14:06] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: skype only appears in task bar and not in system tray .
[14:07] <RevTorA> PanArtur: http://pastebin.com/F0s9BHh1
[14:07] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: Ubuntu 11.04 unity I assume?
[14:07] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: kubuntu 11.04 natty
[14:07] <PanArtur> twoten210: nvidia glx 173 is for your card
[14:08] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: let me check that since I have kubuntu also and skype
[14:08] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: i've installed the latest version but didn't have this problem before
[14:08] <zykotick9> RevTorA, "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.notworking" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to generate a new xorg.conf
[14:08] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: Thanks
[14:08] <PanArtur> RevTorA: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak then reboot and check
[14:09] <RevTorA> Aye, bbiab
[14:09] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: Right click the systray and click system tray settings
[14:10] <twoten210> sorry, it's a GeForce 7025 on the motherboard
[14:10] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: after that?
[14:10] <raj-darkmystery> guys need help with mod_rewrite how can I point xyz.domain.com to domain.com if someother mod_rewrite is already working for example.com for anything.example.com
[14:10] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: Do you see skype under entries
[14:11] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: I see that there are applications whose visibility can be configured
[14:11] <jrib> raj-darkmystery: #httpd
[14:12] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: I see it and after i set it to 'always visble', it disappeared
[14:12] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: hit the close button on skype and see if it is there in entries
[14:12] <PanArtur> twoten210: than nvidia-current
[14:12] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: It disappeared??
[14:14] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: i see it gain after i restarted skype. i set it to always visble but it doesn't appear in system tray
[14:14] <hellboy_> sf
[14:15] <hellboy_> hello
[14:15] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: I had this problem once and solved it by deleting plasma's config
[14:15] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: Are you ready to do that Note: plasma will take default Kubuntu settings
[14:15] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: I can delete plasma settings and restart kde if that helps
[14:15] <hellboy_> hey i want to know what is segmentation fault
[14:16] <PanArtur> g0rs: write in terminal ps aux | grep [s]kype
[14:16] <twoten210> no, no good, I reboot, hold down shift and still get a blank screen, I also get a second single beep after the first one, could that be grub trying to tell me something?
[14:16] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: Do that then
[14:16] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: You know how it is done?
[14:16] <twoten210> segmentation fault is when a program tries to alter some memory outside of it's assigned territory
[14:17] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: yes , they are in .kde directory ?
[14:17] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: Yes
[14:17] <hellboy_> whenever i run ccsm
[14:17] <hellboy_> i get this msg(segmentation fault)
[14:17] <hellboy_> what should i do?
[14:18] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: brb
[14:18] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: ok
[14:19] <PanArtur> twoten210: when screen is blank press ctrl+alt+f1, login into your account and write sudo nvidia-xconfig then sudo reboot. If you don't have nvidai drivers installed write X -configure then sudo cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf (X -configure will gives you where the xorg.conf new is)
[14:19] <xgt001> hellboy_, do u get it when u run it via terminal?
[14:19] <zelozelos> i need to set up a partition as a go-between for ubuntu and vista, which type of format can be read/written to from both - but i'd like it to be able to drag n drop files with out having to delete them from ubuntu's?
[14:19] <hellboy_> no
[14:20] <xgt001> are you running natty or maverick?
[14:20] <bastidrazor> zelozelos: ntfs
[14:20] <zelozelos> bastidrazor, ntfs works for windows but i have 2 delete the files after i put them on that one..is there a way around this?
[14:20] <RevTorA> PanArtur: I have run that configuration script and rebooted :)
[14:20] <PanArtur> hellboy_: do you have webcam?
[14:20] <PanArtur> RevTorA: and?
[14:21] <hellboy_> no why
[14:21] <bastidrazor> zelozelos: i don't know what that means.
[14:21] <hellboy_> hey panartur give me ur email id
[14:21] <twoten210> PanArtur: yeah I've been trying to get to a console using ctrl-alt-F4 but no luck, I have to go thru the Studio 11.04 install cd into rescue mode to get to a root shell
[14:22] <PanArtur> hellboy_: a6193427@nepwk.com
[14:23] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: My system Skype 2.2.0.35 on Kubuntu 11.04 Natty with KDE SC 4.7.1 works fine
[14:23] <zelozelos> im using ubuntu 11.04 bastidrazor when i drag a file to a ntfs from ext3 it still remains on the ext3 partition, and windows thinks that when i move/delete a file that has been added durring a ubuntu session that its a shared folder and i have 2 confirm the file actions
[14:23] <hellboy_> PanArtur: CCSM comes and it vanishes what should i do
[14:23] <PanArtur> twoten210: have you got access to your linux filesystem?
[14:23] <zykotick9> PanArtur, FYI putting an email address into a logged IRC channel will almost certainly guarantee spambots will find your address.
[14:24] <twoten210> yes, I can mount sda1 and get a root shell looking at my file system
[14:24] <PanArtur> zykotick9: it is a 10minutemail http://goo.gl/U3cb
[14:24] <zykotick9> hellboy_, i'm just curious (I can't help you) - but are you using ATI/AMD card/drivers?
[14:24] <zykotick9> PanArtur, smart!
[14:24] <hellboy_> nvidia
[14:25] <bastidrazor> zelozelos: that doesn't sound like a filesystem issue but how nautilus handles it. i do not know the solution.
[14:25] <twoten210> nvidia-xconfig wrote a new xorg.conf file
[14:26] <hellboy_> twoten210: hello can u help me with the segmentation fault in ccsm
[14:26] <zelozelos> bastidrazor, ? whats the solution?
[14:26] <hellboy_> twoten210: give me ur email id
[14:27] <twoten210> no I'm sorry, but hey, try running ccsm from a terminal and you will get more information, maybe a pointer to a log file that you can read
[14:27] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: My system Skype 2.2.0.35 on Kubuntu 11.04 Natty with KDE SC 4.7.1 works fine
[14:28] <hellboy_> twoten210:  i runned it frm terminal and got that fault
[14:29] <twoten210> Panartur: still no luck, blank screen, but the second beep now occurs a couple seconds later ...
[14:30] <zelozelos> twoten210, are you having issues with compiz / metacity?
[14:30] <twoten210> I wish, I can't even get to a terminal much less a graphic screen
[14:31] <zelozelos> twoten210, ive broken mine a few times, what did u do?
[14:33] <twoten210> I had natty running, installed Studio 11.04 on top, seemed to go fine, but after first reboot I get a blank screen, no grub menu, no bootup
[14:33] <PanArtur> twoten210: take a look at this http://goo.gl/TKms section GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 - but maybe you gave installed grub on your usb stick or somewhere else?
[14:34] <twoten210> I have a Studio 10.10 cd here, I think I'll install that, then do the upgrade to 11.04 through the update manager
[14:34] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: it worked. Its in system tray now . Thanks
[14:34] <twoten210> no, I actually re-installed grub onto sda and I can see the files in mc
[14:34] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: You're welcome
[14:35] <ubuntu_> mamo kupa
[14:36] <zelozelos> twoten210, oh no. ok what u need to do is boot live cd, recover any files needed to be saved by mounting the fs's and putting them on a diff partition/backup media, then re-install. what happened was the settings durring the upgrade got messed up, b4 reboot you was still in the old system, after when it tried to boot the new stuff the settings are'nt right, next time only upgrade dist-dist of the same (ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10)
[14:36] <zelozelos> dont upgrade to a diff flavor, instead always do a full install, upgrades are prone to breakage
[14:37] <twoten210> now that makes sense, in order to save my apps in /opt I didn't reformat the root partition, that sounds like the problem
[14:37] <zelozelos> exactly
[14:38] <PanArtur> twoten210: is ubuntu your only system on this pc?
[14:38] <twoten210> yes, maybe I should put vector linux on a small partition, that thing always works
[14:38] <antihoax> http://www.zeromq.org/results:rt-tests-v031
[14:39] <antihoax> realtime kernel tests
[14:39] <zelozelos> twoten210, a little suggestion, always keep another partition on the drive for backing up, most of the time reinstalling os's isnt a big deal for the hd, but that way if somehting goes wrong they're alrady saved
[14:40] <zelozelos> thats exactly what im trying too get going now, cept i keep forgetting to delete files from ubuntu's parttion when i move to the go-between partiton
[14:40] <PanArtur> twoten210: so could you edit your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and check is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT phrase is there
[14:41] <twoten210> mind-reader, that's just where I'm headed!
[14:41] <zelozelos> twoten210, your issues are probably deeper than grub but good luck, im off to re-format to ntfs
[14:42] <twoten210> you poor thing!
[14:43] <zelozelos> anyone know if / how to make it to where when i move a file to the ntfs drive it actually moves it? or at least deletes the orig after the move or whatever ?
[14:44] <asteve> is anyone else experiencing long delays in ec2 with apt?
[14:44] <PanArtur> zelozelos: in terminal?
[14:45] <zelozelos> PanArtur, no i try to stay away from term when messing with files when i drag n drop
[14:46] <PanArtur> zelozelos: do you want to move your / to another drive?
[14:46] <zelozelos> PanArtur, idk, all i want is to be able to share a partition between windows and ubuntu but not have to always mess with deleting files n such
[14:47] <phper_> Hello, I installed at my ubuntu, apache2, php5 and libapache2-mod-php5. Now, at ifconfig I get default IP 10.0.2.15 but that is not accessible from other computers, what can I do to make my server accessible from other computers?
[14:48] <PanArtur> zelozelos: have you read this http://goo.gl/LCzg
[14:49] <zelozelos> PanArtur, that one idt i did yet, i have to log out to set up automount bbs
[14:50] <manas_> hi
[14:50] <PanArtur> zelozelos: easiest way to do this is resize your partition, create new one (ntfs), mount it (in fstab) and mv files
[14:50] <manas_> how do i update libre office?
[14:51] <manas_> i have 3.3 but 4.3 is out i suppose
[14:51] <edwardthefma> how do i flush the dns
[14:51] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: are you using a web based irc client?
[14:51] <manas_> How do i update libreoffice
[14:51] <manas_> ?
[14:52] <somsip>  edwardthefma: what dns ar eyou using? ISP, opendns? bind?
[14:52] <Stanley00> manas_: use ppa?
[14:52] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: yes why?
[14:52] <g0rs> Girly-Girl: what is that client?
[14:52] <manas_> im new to linux so i dont really know much. Im sorry, how do i use ppa
[14:52] <anterid> I got crossover cable and have laptop and desktop connected. How do I setup for network conection? I read that ifconfig IP up on both and ping helps but not able to. Can anyone help me to set it up?
[14:53] <Stanley00> !ppa | manas_
[14:53] <comitt> hello. i am not sure if this is the relevant channel for this: is there a setting that would make double clicking a word in the adress bar in firefox select just the word (and not the whole adress)? thanks
[14:54] <Girly-Girl> g0rs: http://webchat.freenode.net
[14:54] <PanArtur> manas_: http://goo.gl/F89zB
[14:54] <manas_> thanks
 im using a free dns provider
[14:54] <edwardthefma> dydns
[14:54] <edwardthefma> diynamic dns
[14:54] <manas_> one more thing, when i click on a link in a email or also here in Xchat, it doesnt open the browser, dunno why but ideally it should!!
[14:55] <PanArtur> comitt: http://goo.gl/Ssd7v
[14:56] <PanArtur> manas_: rmb on link
[14:56] <manas_> rmb?
[14:56] <PanArtur> manas_: right mouse button
[14:57] <somsip> edwardthefma: you don't refresh it. Dyndns will probably obey the TTL (refresh period) provided by the nameservers for the domain in question
[14:58] <dork> is there something in oneiric like suspend? my machine's in a 'suspended' type of state when i come in to the office, it's a desktop...not sure what the deal is. i have to hit the power button to get my monitors to fire up and it's a desktop. power settings have no suspend/hybernate events defined
 im not using  Dyndns im using dnsexit
[14:58] <edwardthefma> a dynamic dns service
[14:59] <somsip> edwardthefma: the 'dydns' typo confised me. But I'd imagine the same will apply as I said before
[14:59] <edwardthefma> evry 1 can acess my server but for some weard resom its not letting my pc
[14:59] <Benkinooby> is that a fake site? http://www.ubunut.com/
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> dork: #ubuntu+1
[15:00] <GirlyGirl> dork: Also that is a know issue
[15:01] <dork> GirlyGirl: ok, thanks.
[15:01] <somsip> edwardthefma: close/restart browser, close/restart computer. Otherwise, just wait for DNS changes to propagate. I get DNS changes from places like Amazon almost instantly, but have to wait hours for changes from places like GoDaddy sometimes
[15:02] <edwardthefma> ok
[15:08] <ardithoxha> anyone herE?
[15:09] <PanArtur> yes
[15:09] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[15:10] <g0rs> compdoc: know what?
[15:10] <compdoc> if anyone is here
[15:10] <xontech> :D
[15:13] <cantonic> hey guys. anyone here experienced in using virtual machines on ubuntu server?
[15:13] <cantonic> i cannot get a virtual machine to run in vnc mode
[15:13] <cantonic> i think i do something wrong in the network settings
[15:14] <zmbmartin> I have an HP Envy 17 not dual graphic just 1 ATI Mobility 5800 series. Is it possible to turn off the GPU when in battery mode? My battery life sucks and I have tried all the tricks that I can find.
[15:14] <zmbmartin> Or some sort of serious power saving mode?
[15:15] <WoollyJumper> Forgive my noob question, how to open a terminal with a keyboard short cut?
[15:15] <fmauro> cantonic: what software are you using to virtualize?
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> WoollyJumper: ctrl-t
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> WoollyJumper: forget that
[15:16] <WoollyJumper> MonkeyDust: thanks
[15:16] <mfilipe> anyone here use r8192se_pci?
[15:17] <mfilipe> module r8192se_pci
[15:17] <cantonic>  fmauro: i used virt-install
[15:17] <cantonic> so KVM i guess?
[15:18] <fmauro> cantonic: I have no experience with kvm, so I'm not your guy. sry mate
[15:18] <cantonic> fmauro: no problem. thank you very much anyways :)
[15:18] <WoollyJumper> MonkeyDust: Thanks for your help the other day with my slow internet but I didn't find any kworker processes. I still have the problem. Anything else to suggest?
[15:18] <tomodachi> cantonic: well kvm seems a bit young still, if you want enterprise stability I would go for XEN. Ive been using it for years
[15:18] <compdoc> cantonic, I use qemu-kvm a lot. what OS is the guest?
[15:19] <compdoc> kvm is perfectly stable
[15:19] <cantonic> compdoc: win7
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> WoollyJumper: i use an alternative GUI, it's different here
[15:19] <cantonic> compdor: yeah, that's what i heard too
[15:19] <cantonic> compdoc: but i am doing something wrong
[15:20] <compdoc> cantonic, I think in kvm, only the gui console uses vnc to view the guest. But windows doesnt have a vnc service. you have to use remote desktop to connect
[15:20] <WoollyJumper> ctl-alt t worked with Gnome
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> great
[15:21] <cantonic> compdoc: what is remote desktop and how can i do it?
[15:22] <compdoc> cantonic, you are trying to connect to the guest's desktop remotely? is that the problem?
[15:22] <primeras> hi. my english isn't very well. how to using "cut" command with -s parameter
[15:23] <cantonic> compdoc: yes exactly. i want this ubuntu server to have several different VMs running which I can connect to from anywhere through the internet
[15:23] <mrtc> Hello
[15:24] <mrtc> Secondary/right click isn't working on Natty, not quite sure how to fix this
[15:24] <mrtc> on a Macbook I should add
[15:25] <compdoc> cantonic, google for ubuntu remote desktop client, if you want to connect from ubuntu to the windows VM. however - you must enable remote desktop in the guest
[15:25] <cantonic> compdoc: how can i enable that? in the xml-configuration file of the vm?
[15:26] <theadmin> cantonic: Meh... Search for "TeamViewer". It's by far the easiest remote dekstop solution for Windows/Linux (with GUI)/Mac
[15:26] <fmauro> cantonic: I'm almost certain kvm will give you direct access to the VM screen without remotely connecting directly to the client
[15:27] <cantonic> fmauro: yeah, but i don't want to install a gui on the ubuntu server
[15:27] <compdoc> cantonic, you dont use the gnome desktop on your Ubuntu box?
[15:27] <cantonic> compdoc: no. I have installed ubuntu server
[15:27] <cantonic> i thought that gnome could eat too many ressources which i could need for the VMs
[15:28] <angel28> Hello I've installed Ubuntu on my laptop (I had version 9 before) and now when I try to enter several website such facebook everything moving slow any idea? maybe something related to the flash ?
[15:28] <cantonic> theadmin: yeah, teamviewer would work perfect! but how should I install it when I cannot access the guest?
[15:28] <compdoc> cantonic, I dont think Windows defaults to allow remote connections, so youre stuck
[15:28] <cantonic> seems like i have to install a small gui like lxmd
[15:28] <natrixnatrix89> !sshd
[15:28] <compdoc> I use the virt-manager
[15:28] <theadmin> cantonic: Ah, sounds like trouble...
[15:29] <fmauro> cantonic: you're not stuck , and you don't need a gui
[15:29] <cantonic> compdoc: i tried installing virt-manager but it failed so i tried virt-viewer
[15:29] <cantonic> fmauro: no?
[15:29] <pentesterrr> fuck you all , i love windows and i love windows, viva bill gates, and you fuck you and fuck your ubuntu ;)
[15:29] <fmauro> cantonic: gimme a second, why would you ruin a great server setup with a resource hog
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> pentesterrr is showing off his vocabulary
[15:30] <cantonic> fmauro: ok :) i am excited to see an alternative way.
[15:30] <pentesterrr> MonkeyDust: what  ?
[15:30] <compdoc> lol
[15:30] <cantonic> right :D
[15:30] <pentesterrr> no one want to kick me from this channel ???? ____ :o:o
[15:30] <cantonic> hahaha. too funny
[15:31] <compdoc> Windows is OK, but its not all there is
[15:31]  * w30 thinks pentesterrr should switch to  #xanax
[15:31] <compdoc> heh
[15:32] <hirantha> how v can config astrerisk in ubuntu
[15:32] <hirantha> asterisk server
[15:32] <cantonic> i think i fucked up my network settings… i created some virtual machines and have some bridge entries now…
[15:32] <angel28> Hello I've installed Ubuntu on my laptop (I had version 9 before) and now when I try to enter several website such facebook everything moving slow any idea? maybe something related to the flash ?
[15:33] <natrixnatrix89> join #xanax
[15:33] <cantonic> how can i remove anything what has been created while using virt-install?
[15:33] <Pici> cantonic: Mind your language here please.
[15:33] <cantonic> Pici: german?
[15:33] <Pici> cantonic: no cursing.
[15:33] <cantonic> sorry :)
[15:34] <cantonic> but when you are not a native english speaker it is sometimes easier that way :)
[15:34] <hirantha> how i config asterisk in my ubuntu 11.04
[15:34] <theadmin> angel28: Not flash, it's probably just your browser or Unity's visual effects
[15:34] <theadmin> angel28: Also, the new Facebook interface *is* heavy.
[15:34] <hirantha> any help
[15:34] <theadmin> !patience | hirantha
[15:35] <angel28> theadmin: OK so if its my browser or Unity's visual effects what can I do in order to fix the problem ?
[15:35] <fmauro> cantonic: give me half an hour, the internet connection on this train is horrid. I'll get back to you as soon as I get home
[15:36] <cantonic> fmauro: wow, thank you for your time man :)
[15:36] <fmauro> cantonic: this is what I'll try when home: http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/tip-how-run-headless-guest-machine-using-vnc-kvm
[15:37] <cantonic> fmauro: ok, i will read through this. thank you
[15:37] <Whitor> Hi all.  Is this a bug or is it by design? : that when I move a bunch of files in nautilus (drag and drop menu drriven) if the move fails because there was an eror reading -one file- ... none of the files are removed from the source... even though all the files up to the one that errored were successfully copied to the destination... ? any one have any idea ?
[15:37] <Whitor> 10.04 btw
[15:38] <theadmin> angel28: Use another browser, or disable the visual effects...
[15:38] <melvincv> How would I use a personal password keyring in seahorse?
[15:38] <cantonic> fmauro: that is what i already tried but compdoc said that i cannot use vnc to connect to windows because vnc is not active by default
[15:38] <cantonic> i installed lxde now. how can i start the gui?
[15:39] <melvincv> fmauro: VNC is not on windows. You may install REALVNC free edition...
[15:39] <theadmin> cantonic: You need a display manager as well. Given that you have lxdm, you should be able to do it with "sudo service lxdm start"
[15:40] <fmauro> cantonic this is outside of the vm. so it will work. it is not client dependant
[15:41] <cantonic> fmauro: but look what melvincv said
[15:41] <cantonic> melvincv: yeah that's what i thought too
[15:42] <fmauro> cantonic you guys dont realize it is transferring the screen of the vm. just be patient. itll work
[15:42] <melvincv> cantonic: you're right, vnc is not supported by default on Windows.
[15:42] <drapedup> what do you mean by default?
[15:42] <drapedup> as in right out of the box ?
[15:42] <cantonic> but fmauros statement makes sense
[15:43] <and471> If I install the Release Candidate of 11.10 tomorrow (when it is released), when 11.10 comes out, can it be upgraded to it by simply upgrading packages?
[15:43] <angel28> ok thanks
[15:43] <cantonic> drapedup: yes, that is what he(she?) means
[15:43] <fritsch> and471: yes, it can
[15:43] <cantonic> theadmin: i started lxdm but i don't see a gui
[15:43] <and471> fritsch, and it should then be as stable as the final release (when upgraded) ?
[15:44] <fritsch> and471: momentarily there is a bug in nautilus, wait till tomorrow
[15:44] <xontech> $$1
[15:44] <and471> fritsch, cool thanks
[15:44] <crf> hi, is there a volume control applet?
[15:45] <cantonic> i think fmauro is right. the only reason i cannot connect using vnc are the network settings i guess
[15:45] <and471> crf, what release?
[15:45] <and471> crf, of ubuntu?
[15:45] <crf> 11.04, and471
[15:45] <mauricio_> has anyone gotten xmonad working with ubuntu 11.10?
[15:45] <melvincv> Any symmetric crypto encryption, for encrypting files, instead of seahorse?
[15:45] <and471> crf, and you are using unity?
[15:46] <crf> no
[15:46] <rethus> which kernel-module i need for : nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> mauricio_: wrong channel, type /j #ubuntu+1
[15:46] <whowantstolivefo> hi people, i have samsung story 2TB storage usb harddisk, i have lots of programs softwares and special files in this harddirve and today i start to get this error when i mount harddrive and this give that error, what is my problem http://pastebin.com/HJ7RCvTz  ?? how can i fix ?
[15:46] <crf> I'm using the gnome desktop, and471
[15:46] <and471> crf, there is no applet, however there is a volume control indicator
[15:46] <mrtc> could I get some help? Right click not working with Macbook pro / Natty
[15:46] <fmauro> cantonic just wait 10 more minutes. may i pm you once i return?
[15:46] <and471> crf, which is called the sound indicator
[15:46] <and471> crf (also includes controlling music applications)
[15:46] <orated> hey jrib ... I tried to use sftp to test the transfer but in the basic thing it gives error. The part file of .tar.bz2.aa is of 4.7GB and it gives error that it cannot read ...
[15:46] <cantonic> fmauro: yeah of course. i am really thankful for your help
[15:47] <and471> crf, do you have the indicator applet added to your gnome-panel ?
[15:47] <crf> and471, I do, but there is no volume applet in it, just logout,login.shutdown, and this "broadcast accounts" thing
[15:47] <and471> crf, ok
[15:48] <and471> crf, can you check if indicator-sound is installed?
[15:48] <and471> crf, either through software center or synaptic
[15:49] <drapedup> is there a better/faster way of doing remote desktop from my ubuntu headless machine to my windows 7 machine ?
[15:49] <drapedup> I'm using xrdp / windows remote desktop connection
[15:49] <crf> and471, indicator-sound is installed
[15:49] <cantonic> do i need to install anything else in order to make lxdm working?
[15:49] <drapedup> xrdp is nice, I get the full desktop, but it's a bit laggy
[15:49] <cantonic> drapedup: i am struggling around with win7 VM too
[15:50] <and471> crf, and indicator-applet complete is also installed?
[15:50] <th0r> drapedup: I found NX faster than vnc, but x-forwarding seemed to be the fastest overall....at least that is how it was a few years ago <smile>
[15:50] <drapedup> cantonic: I like the xrdp setup, but it's just a bit laggy. It's definitely not my network setup. I'm on all wired cat6, gigabit ports and nics, and switch
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> drapedup: try rdesktop
[15:50] <drapedup> th0r: MonkeyDust thank you both. I will check those out
[15:51] <w30> my sound applet is supplied not by indicator-applet but by indicator-applet-complete, evidently they are different.
[15:51] <crf> and471, yes indicator-applet complete is installed
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> drapedup: rdesktop linux > win worked for me, even in vbox
[15:51] <and471> crf, ok, can you check that Indicator Applet Compltete is added to the panel
[15:51] <drapedup> MonkeyDust: but I'm trying to remote into my linux machine, not the other way around
[15:51] <maulana> hai alll
[15:52] <and471> crf, this is different from normal Indicator Applet
[15:52] <drapedup> MonkeyDust: isn't rdesktop a linux client
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> drapedup: it's a command in Terminal
[15:52] <maulana> am need manual for make ubuntu desktop to home server did have link for i read tutorial for make it
[15:52] <drapedup> MonkeyDust: I'm doing Win --> linux
[15:52] <th0r> drapedup: if you try NX, use the free version for NX itself...it is much better than the freeNX in the repos
[15:52] <maulana> am need manual for make ubuntu desktop to home server did have link for i read tutorial for make it thanks
[15:52] <drapedup> th0r: i'm going to try NX
[15:53] <_2briancox_> I need a bash command to delete all files recursively under my Music folder of the type .wma ... help please.  =)
[15:53] <th0r> drapedup: then go to the NX website and get their version.
[15:53] <crf> and471, thanks, I see
[15:53] <and471> crf, all works now?
[15:53] <drapedup> th0r: already on it. thanks bro. I'll let you know how it goes if you're around
[15:53] <crf> I did not have "complete" only "session"
[15:53] <and471> ah ok
[15:53] <_2briancox_> I'm sure it uses find and delete ... just can't find syntax
[15:54] <crf> and471, thanks for your help
[15:54] <and471> crf, glad it works for you :)
[15:54] <tjiggi_fo> maulana, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[15:54] <th0r> drapedup: just so you know, you can install cygwin and do X-forwarding via ssh from a windows workstation.
[15:55] <drapedup> th0r: that sounds like a better idea...
[15:55] <haddock_> trying to install webkit. put nightly build in home folder. how to proceed ?
[15:56] <haddock_> want to make Postler textfireld work
[15:56] <drapedup> th0r: i'm going to try and forward it first. at least I have experience with ssh tunneling and forwarding and such
[15:56] <th0r> drapedup: I was working with Xming in place of cygwin last time I messed with this. Xming seemed to work better than cygwin...used less resources
[15:57] <drapedup> th0r: sweet. I'll check it out. I'm not a huge fan of cygwin
[15:57] <maulana> tjiggi_fo, am need setting ubuntu desktop but have server fitur?
[15:59] <fmauro> cantonic: alright, re. I'll pm you then
[15:59] <_2briancox_> I need a bash command to delete all files recursively under my Music folder of the type .wma ... help please.  =)  I am sure it uses find with the -delete parameter, but I can't get the Syntax right....
[16:00] <_2briancox_> I just tried:      find -delete /home/brian/Music/ '*.wma'
[16:00] <th0r> _2briancox_: you can just do 'rm -R /home/<user>/Music/*.wma', I think
[16:00] <_2briancox_> hmmm
[16:01] <_2briancox_> but that syntax seems only delete the files at the level of ..../Music/
[16:01] <_2briancox_> I know you have -R but ... idk
[16:01] <iridium> _2briancox_, find -type f -iname "*.wma" -exec rm "{}" \;
[16:02] <_2briancox_> iridium, where should the path go in that command?
[16:02] <_2briancox_> I just want it to concentrate on /home/brian/Music/ obviously
[16:02] <llutz> _2briancox_: find path/ -type f -iname '*.wma' -delete
[16:02] <jaequery> hi guys
[16:02] <jaequery> i got a samba question
[16:02] <jaequery> when im on bridge networking, my windows machine can access the file system over the ubuntu vm's samba shares just fine.  but when i switch to NAT, it won't let me (keeps asking for uesr/pass). anyone know why? i believe i opened/routed all the necessary ports.....  TCP 139, 445 and UDP 137, 138, 445 .... please help me
[16:02] <_2briancox_> grazi llutz!
[16:02] <FloodBot1> jaequery: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <iridium> _2briancox_, find PATH -type f -iname "*.wma" -exec rm "{}" \;
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> jaequery: with bridge, you go into the host's network range
[16:04] <jaequery> ok so?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> jaequery: with NAT, you don't
[16:04] <jaequery> so does that mean samba won't work over NAT?
[16:04] <_2briancox_> llutz ... How did you master bash syntax?  Can you recommend a good book?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> jaequery: it seems so
[16:05] <Axelle> erm hello peeps, got a silly question ( I'm pretty noobish ) When I press ALT-F2 it opens a console, then how do I revert to the X interface ?
[16:05] <jaequery> omg are you sure?
[16:05] <Axelle> startx says X server is already running...
[16:05] <th0r> _2briancox_: check the linux documentation project....tldp.org
[16:05] <maxzoil> how i can change form normal user to  root  in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[16:05] <tMH-> Axelle: try ALT+F7
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> jaequery: what's the issue, you know how to solve it: by using bridge
[16:05] <Axelle> I'll try that thanks tMH-
[16:06] <llutz> _2briancox_: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[16:06] <jaequery> well bridge doesn't work here for some reason, even though it works fine at home and all the other places
[16:06] <_2briancox_> ty again
[16:06] <_2briancox_> ciao
[16:08] <w30> maxzoil, when you change to root many invironment changes take effect so use with care. That being said type in a terminal sudo -i
[16:09] <jaequery> anybody?
[16:10] <w30> maxzoil, exit to go back to user
[16:10] <Axelle> There was something silly I had last time. I had to install Xubuntu on an old machine with 500Mb RAM ( it was SDRAM memory so couldn't buy easilly 1Gb to install regular ubuntu )
[16:10] <Axelle> It was 10.10 I believe
[16:10] <vinc> hi all
[16:11] <Axelle> When 11.04 came up, the update prompted me to update to 11.04
[16:11] <jaequery> i have a brand new laptop. i launch a VM in bridge network. it works. everywhere, home/office/friend.  but just couple days ago, i was no longer able to bridge at my house (wont assign me IP).  anyone know why that is? this is really frustrating ...
[16:11] <Axelle> Sadly it updated to Ubuntu and not Xubuntu
[16:11] <Axelle> After update the system couldn't boot...
[16:11] <drapedup> Axelle: you can change from ubuntu to xubuntu
[16:11] <drapedup> from command line
[16:11] <jaequery> did my question make sense
[16:11] <orated> How to rsync when  ssh is active. I know how to rsync over ssh with something like rsync -avz -e ssh user@host:/ dest ... but I'm now connected on ssh to another system and hope to rsync a file, possible?
[16:12] <Axelle> Too bad the updater didn't install the right version :/
[16:14] <cdcdabba> how could i disable a usb port so that it only provides power?
[16:16] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! I have a problem using my wireless adaptor; I did a 'lshw' and found that it is 'disabled'; how can I re-enable it? the wired conection works fine, but I want to re-enable the wireless one; I am on Lucid; my wireless adaptor is Atheros AR5001 [acording to 'lshw']
[16:17] <theadmin> cyclist_2: Does "sudo rfkill unblock all" help?
[16:18] <majdekalel> hi hello i have urgent question please
[16:18] <mo12> i have a hidden folder named .fr-Blo2lL on the desktop(10.04), i have no idea how it got there, what are the chances that my computer has been hacked?
[16:18] <theadmin> majdekalel: Just ask it
[16:19] <majdekalel> i have a group in facebook when someone post anything or make any comment its just deleted directly !!!
[16:19] <theadmin> mo12: Unlikely. Examine the contents of that folder.
[16:19] <noisewaterphd> cyclist_2: are you using a machine that has a hardware button for enabling/disabling the wireless? Perhaps you accidentally hit it if so.
[16:19] <theadmin> majdekalel: That's NOT an Ubuntu question.
[16:19] <majdekalel> ok man can you help about that ?
[16:19] <mo12> theadmin: it is empty
[16:19] <theadmin> mo12: Just remove it. Probably a temporary folder generated by some software.
[16:20] <Jonta> !ask
[16:20] <cyclist_2> theadmin: I issued the command and it seems that no errors where returned; but until I reboot I do not think I will see any result [or should I...?]
[16:20] <mo12> theadmin: thanks, i will delete it
[16:20] <theadmin> cyclist_2: That should have unblocked your wireless conection, now "sudo ip link set wlan0 up" and see if it works.
[16:21] <cdcdabba> Would it be possible to only provide power to one USB port and not data access? (11.04)
[16:21] <mo12> i use transmission, what ports does bit torrent use? are there fixed ports that it works on?
[16:21] <donruss> so is there any launchers that work with unity that I can use and easily remove if I don't like it
[16:21] <th0r> cdcdabba: just get an external usb hub, plug in the power, but don't plug the hub into the computer
[16:21] <mo12> 51413
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> donruss: launcher in what way?
[16:23] <donruss> ActionParsnip. like a docked at the bottom launcher
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> donruss: you can dock any app to the panel
[16:24] <donruss> eyecandy basically
[16:24] <cyclist_2> noisewaterphd: I use a HP G70-120EA; the only button for the wireless connection is one next to the switch on/off and it does not switches the wireless per se - it only informative; the PC shows a blue light on it, which indicates that the adaptor is recognized [I assume...], but I cannot get it to receive any signal [and my modem/router is right next to it]
[16:24] <melvincv> Is the official bitorrent GUI version available yet?
[16:24] <w30> cdcdabba, Is the computer the only power source? It's an expensive device to short out if something goes wrong. Better to spend $20 bucks at Wal Mart
[16:24] <melvincv> for Ubuntu
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> donruss: well, what do you need?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: sure, bitorrent has been in the repo forecter
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> *forever
[16:25] <donruss> ActionParsnip. yes but that's the unity panel. I'm looking for something like Oscar style launcher
[16:26] <noisewaterphd> cyclist_2: dont know about that particular model, but on most HP's that little blue light you are talking about actually is a button. Blue is enabled, if you touch it it will turn amber and be disabled, or vice cersa.
[16:26] <donruss> imean osx
[16:26] <theadmin> donruss: Try cairo-dock
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> donruss: do you mean a dOCK, like in MacOS?
[16:26] <cyclist_2> theadmin: I entered the command you suggested above, but only got the following error message [looks bad...]: 'RTNETLINK answers: Unknown error 132'
[16:27] <theadmin> cyclist_2: Makes no sense at all :/ Someone should learn to write descriptive error messages.
[16:27] <cdcdabba> w30:  Its not completely necessary, I just want to charge something without it getting detected by the computer.  Didn't want to have to use something else since the computer's usb port is right here
[16:27] <noisewaterphd> donruss:  maybe try gnome-do, I personally can't go without it or something similar
[16:27] <donruss> yes ActionParsnip. sorry using a touch screen keyboard
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: transmission is in a default install, it has a GUI
[16:27] <w30> cdcdabba, I just spent $24 at Wal Mart for a pack of cigarette lighter and house wall socket usb chargers
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> donruss: yeah, saw you are using android. I use andchat :)
[16:27] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: That's awesome, but why not on their site http://www.bittorrent.com/downloads ?
[16:28] <The_Phoenix> how large is xfce for ubuntu base server?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> donruss: docky or avant window navigator are used a lot. I don't use them so cannot comment on their functionality
[16:28] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: I need a way to schedule torrent downloads...
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: schedule in what way?
[16:29] <cyclist_2> noisewaterphd: in my PC's case, it's  just a light, I am afraid; I have been pressing it for some 15 seconds straight and no joy
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> The_Phoenix: I'd go with LXDE if you have to butcher your server with a GUI
[16:29] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: Transmission does not do that as far as I know... schedule to download from 2am - 8am [night unlimited]
[16:29] <donruss> I'm trying to get used to the touch screen keyboard since there is no new good android QWERTY phones coming out and I need to get off sprint asap
[16:30] <noisewaterphd> cyclist_2: ok, at any rate blue is good
[16:30] <w30> cdcdabba, and if it blows up I am out $24 and not $600 + for a computer, well maybe an extension cord also.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: transmission can schedle bandwidth, so you can set zero bandwidth normally, then between 2 times use a different speed. Is this what you need?
[16:30] <nicola> 12
[16:30] <nicola> ciao a tutti
[16:30] <donruss> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:30] <negev> hi, does ext4 have an 'archive' bit?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> donruss: Android G1 phone has a sweet keyboard :)
[16:31] <cyclist_2> theadmin, noisewaterphd: I will reboot the system now; maybe something I have done up until this moment will chance my luck...; I will be back soon; thank you for the support!
[16:31] <The_Phoenix> ActionParsnip: It's not exactly a server. I installed ubuntu base and server stuff. Then, chose to install XFCE. The download seems to be running still. Just wondering how large it is.
[16:31] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: Not really, it should disable DHT and not use the Internet at all...
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: you set zero up and download, doesn't use and internet
[16:32] <SpiderFred> hi I have general question, I am currently using rtorrent is it possible to schedule downloading by time? I mean throttle to 1kb per sek from 2pn to 5 pm and go full the rest of time?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> The_Phoenix: then install xfce4  and you will get a minimal XFCE desktop, youo should also install lightdm or slim for a login screen
[16:32] <donruss> yeah but its dated. I have an epic from Sammy right now. I love my Samsung but I can't take sprint anymore.
[16:33] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: XFCE isnt large enough that you should be waiting long enough to start wondering how big it is. Not with a decent connection anyway
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> donruss: HTC ChaCha  then
[16:33] <The_Phoenix> I'm on a 512kbps which is the slowest *broadband*.
[16:33] <donruss> 4g?
[16:33] <The_Phoenix> Nonetheless, it's been around 2 hours. ie it should've downloaded 200-300MB or more.
[16:34] <kay_> hey guys! i have some problems with my display. im getting only when connecting an external monitor. can't find solutions on the net. any ideas? (00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[16:34] <kay_> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)) ?
[16:34] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: You mean the temporary speed limit section? Not exactly a scheduler though... I thought it's meant to reduce bandwidth.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: it can be however you want. If you set ZERO up and down, it won't use any speed, then set the temporary speed between 1am to 8am to be unlimited.
[16:36] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll try that out. By the way what does the bittorrent-gui package install anyway? Is it an official version?
[16:37] <io> !info bittorrent-gui | melvincv
[16:38] <The_Phoenix> !info xfce4
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: no idea, I always use transmission
[16:39] <KittyGirl> Hello i'm using Yate to connect to my call center and i'm getting no sound.
[16:39] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: even allowing for possible dependencies, I dont think the xfce4 download would be much more than 100mb
[16:39] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: Then I'll check it out :)
[16:39] <KittyGirl> I get a tone.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: it sings with my android phone and I have a low speed set for the day then full speed (50Mbps line here) during 2am to 9am)
[16:39] <KittyGirl> so i know that the soundcard is set up right but i can't hear the other person.
[16:39] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: but were you installing on a system  with no gui at all? That might make the dependencies a lot larger
[16:40] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: how did you install it? apt tells you how much its downloading before it starts
[16:40] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: Wow! And I'm in India with a 512kbps line...
[16:41] <alaing> how do i install open office from the command line?
[16:41] <The_Phoenix> noisewaterphd: I doubt. Even LXDE runs at 120MB or so.
[16:41] <alaing> i tried sudo apt-get install openoffice but it was unable to locate openoffice
[16:41] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: I'll just try to install it and see what it says, hang on a sec
[16:41] <rymate1234> hai der
[16:41] <dattashantih> alaing: openoffice has been replaced with libreoffice
[16:41] <The_Phoenix> thanks though noisewaterphd and ActionParsnip
[16:42] <rymate1234> I have a very weird problem
[16:42] <rymate1234> my window manager seems to not be loading
[16:42] <rymate1234> I have my desktop with icon, i have my bottom panel, but no window title bars D:
[16:43] <donruss> so just out of curiosity why do you guys choose Ubuntu?
[16:43] <rymate1234> I'm using xubuntu 11.04
[16:43] <alaing> dattashantih: i'm running ubuntu server edition and installing coldfusion and it asked me if i had open office so it could use it to make pdfs
[16:43] <The_Phoenix> noisewaterphd: I was installing via PXE installer for 11.04 in a system with no GUI. My router is still being strained. So, I know the download is still running.
[16:43] <theadmin> donruss: I don't :P I just sit in this channel cause I'm bored
[16:43] <wlightning> is there a place to go for questions about Ubuntu beta? (mostly just trying to figure out which component to report a bug against)
[16:43] <alaing> why has open office been renamed?
[16:43] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: sudo apt-get install xfce4 tells me 93.4 MB of additional disk space will be used. I made a pretty good guess, should be playing on the price is right today! Oh, no wait, I went over, cant go over on that show right?
[16:43] <dattashantih> alaing: what version of ubuntu server are you running
[16:43] <theadmin> alaing: It wasn't renamed, it was forked.
[16:44] <cyclist_2> theadmin, noisewaterphd: I am back, having re-started the system; 'something' changed; another 'lshw' informs me now that the wireless network is 'unclaimed' instead of 'disabled', as before; do you have any ideas from here? theadmin: could you post those commands for the wlan0 again, please? I forgot to note them down before I began to reboot
[16:44] <alaing> dattashantih: 11.04
[16:44] <theadmin> cyclist_2: "sudo ip link set wlan0 up", but that's only if the network is unencrypted or encryption has already been configured.
[16:44] <donruss> theadmin. lol
[16:44] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: I do already have gnome and unity installed though, which may have made my system need a lot less dependencies
[16:45] <donruss> what's your Choice
[16:45] <theadmin> donruss: Arch.
[16:45] <alaing> theadmin: i dont think coldfusion 9 is going to like a fork
[16:45] <The_Phoenix> noisewaterphd: Thanks. Perhaps you should buy a lottery after all. Thanks. Am installing on a bare bone system. Perhaps the dependencies arte higher. I will give it another 2 hours.
[16:45] <theadmin> alaing: Most OpenOffice plugins still work if that's what that is
[16:45] <noisewaterphd> cyclist_2: what desktop are you using. just try using the auto connect if you can
[16:46] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: I assume you used apt-get to install? Just scroll back up and see how much it said it needs to download
[16:46] <alaing> theadmin: i'm not quiet sure i installed coldfusion 9 on windows and it never gave me the option so I was supprized to see the options but I would like to use them
[16:47] <Shatters> So I have installed Ubuntu 10 lucid onto a USB to run persistent.  When it logs into the default account, I want to set a password but can't from "users and groups" because I don't know the 'current password'. any way to set a password for default account?
[16:47] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: that will be the only way to know, as it will vary from system to system based on dependencies
[16:47] <Shatters> it did however allow me to change the accounts name
[16:48] <The_Phoenix> noisewaterphd: Nope, I would have known if I had used apt-get.
[16:48] <theadmin> Shatters: Reboot into the recovery mode, and from there on, "passwd USERNAME" (where USERNAME is the name of your user)
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Shatters: what is the output of:   whoami
[16:49] <noisewaterphd> The_Phoenix: if you havent done much else on the network with that machine today, you could use something like top to determine roughly how much it has downloaded so far
[16:49] <Shatters> it says "ubuntu"
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Shatters: run:  sudo passwd ubuntu     and you can set the password
[16:50] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: hey sorry, this isnt really help, just curious how you set up an account without a password in the first place. I wasnt aware you could even do that
[16:50] <The_Phoenix> noisewaterphd: Am out of options. Even my router has been running for a while. I will give it some time.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> noisewaterphd: it can cause issues as far as I am aware, plug it significantly reduces security
[16:51] <Shatters> when running it from usb I was given option at boot for persistent vs live etc and after selecting persistent, it automatically loaded to desktop
[16:51] <noisewaterphd> ActionParsnip: will he be able to do that without knowing, or actually having the password in this case?
[16:51] <Layke2> What's a hacky way of having a PHP script calling every 15 seconds using a cron.
[16:52] <Layke2> I don't know any shell script at all, so I am not sure how I could do a sleep(15) wget http://address.com four times to make it work as expected.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> noisewaterphd: you'd have to do it yourself, the liveCD has no password set for the  ubuntu account, but you can set one
[16:52] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: follow ActionParsnip advice and see what happens. If that doesn't work try typing just passwd at the terminal as the account you are trying to update
[16:53] <Shatters> great, think I got it fixed then. Hmm. ActrionParsnip, when I boot next time, will it ask me for password instead of just logging in?
[16:53] <noisewaterphd> ActionParsnip: ok, never done that, learn something everyday
[16:53] <theadmin> Layke2: Eh... I think this would work: while true ; do sleep 15 ; for i in {1..4} do wget http://example.org ; done ; done
[16:54] <theadmin> Oh, missed a semicolon
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> noisewaterphd: me neither, its really bad practise to have blank passwords for anything ever
[16:54] <hume> hi...anyone got advice on how I make everything (not just text) look smaller on my screen? I have the highest resolution the screen permits, but would like windows and stuff slightly smaller....
[16:54] <theadmin> Layke2: Put a semicolon before that second "do"
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> hume: use a higher DPI
[16:54] <Shatters> brb, going to reboot to see if it asks for pass before log on
[16:54] <noisewaterphd> Shatters: i think it will indeed make you login, unless ubuntu also has a auto login that I am unaware of too
[16:54] <hume> ActionParsnip, ok..where?
[16:54] <noisewaterphd> ActionParsnip: definitely
[16:54] <Layke2> theadmin I think for readability, since I don't know, could I just have... * * * * * sleep 15; wget <address> then on another line have * * * * * sleep 30; wget <address> ?
[16:54] <Shatters> hoping not noise, because that would be terrible for security
[16:55] <bahamas> hello. i have some issues with my wireless card. it's a broadcom 4313. does anyone know if there's a fix? i've seen several solutions on the internet, but i don't know how well they apply to me
[16:55] <bubblehouse> hello
[16:55] <Layke2> I don't intend this to be a permanent solution. :)
[16:55] <theadmin> Layke2: Why do you need "sleep" in cron, anyway?
[16:55] <hume> ActionParsnip, do you mean on the font settings tab of Appearance in System settings?
[16:55] <bubblehouse> I have a basic question I can't seem to find a simple answer to
[16:56] <Layke2> theadmin, I don't have time (over the next few days) to get my Job Queue working in a proper manner, ie using GearMan through PHP.
[16:56] <Layke2> So at the moment, all my Jobs are just saved and ran every minute. I just want to reduce that time a little.
[16:56] <usr13> bubblehouse: Ask it.
[16:56] <theadmin> Layke2: I see... Well, I guess that's the way, since cron doesn't seem to have a "second" section
[16:56] <Layke2> I fully realise that this is wrong. :)
[16:57] <torstehu> Who is the right person to talk to if i suspect the chromium-daily buildbot is somehow malfunctioning
[16:57] <theadmin> torstehu: Whoever mantains that PPA?
[16:58] <noisewaterphd> hume: first let me say that I'm not entirely sure where ActionParsnip is going with his help for you so far, and he very well may have a trick up his sleeve. But, if you are at max resolution, I'm afraid that there isn't much else you can do that will really satisfy what I think you are trying to accomplish
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> torstehu: check the credits to know who maintains the PPA
[16:58] <josePHPagoda> i'm trying to use curl and I'm getting a name lookup timed out error
[16:58] <torstehu> will do
[16:58] <josePHPagoda> but I can resolve the name using nslookup
[16:58] <josePHPagoda> any ideas what could be happening?
[16:59] <alaing> i know libreoffice has replaced openoffice but can i download openoffice?
[16:59] <snake_> hi
[16:59] <theadmin> alaing: Only from their site
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> alaing: it's in the repos
[16:59] <snake_> i can't access my ntsf drives :(
[16:59] <usr13> alaing: Sure you can.  But why?
[16:59] <glebihan> MonkeyDust, no it's not
[16:59] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: No it's not, libreoffice has replaced it
[16:59] <Shatters> dang, looks like persistent won't ask me for password before loading desktop
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> no?
[16:59] <alaing> i need it for a coldfusion installation
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> hm
[17:00] <Shatters> any way to possibly force ubuntu persistent to ask for password first?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> torstehu: I use the daily, its fine here, which release are you using?
[17:00]  * MonkeyDust uses a different GUI, OO is still in the repos
[17:01] <hume> noisewaterphd, do you mean that the DPI setting only affects fonts? Not other stuff?
[17:01] <glebihan> MonkeyDust, nothing to do with the GUI, if you're running natty, openoffice is not in the repos
[17:02] <usr13> OO has been replaced by libreoffice from natty ->
[17:02] <Calinou> how do I disable numpad controls?
[17:02] <Shatters> I'm going to create a few user accounts and then reboot to see if it will load login screen that way..
[17:02] <Calinou> every time I press a numpad key the mouse goes up/down
[17:02] <Calinou> I don't want that
[17:02] <usr13> Shatters: Well, sure it will.
[17:03] <Nikro> Hi guys, I just bought myself core i5 and it seems that ubuntu 11.04 @ 64bit has some issues with it, specifically with GPU which is integrated on the chip, Xorg starts to blink and then just dies..
[17:03] <Nikro> are there any articles/tips for that? =\
[17:03] <Shatters> usr13, but it doesn't with one acct and I just set up the password. not sure why it just loads to desktop
[17:03] <bubblehouse> hello
[17:03] <usr13> Nikro: Might just be an issue with the video card.
[17:04] <alaing> so how can i download OO and install it from the commandline
[17:04] <Shatters> anyone could just take the usb and boot to my desktop
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: check in keyboard or mouse settings, you probably have mouse keys enabled
[17:04] <Shatters> god, I smell someone's pizza and it's killing me.
[17:04] <bahamas> anyone know how to fix an issue with broadcom 4313 wireless chip? sometimes it works, sometimes i have to plug in the internet cable into my laptop and restart for the wireless to start working as well
[17:04] <usr13> Shatters: Time to visit the neighbor...
[17:04] <bahamas> Shatters: why don't you order one?
[17:04] <bubblehouse>  I have a simple newbie question for you: how do you edit a read-only file?  specifically, I'm attempting to alter the /etc/default/rcS to reflect the proper system time
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:05] <nuclearworm> hello, i guess that after installing programs packages remain somewhere. how do i delete those packages?
[17:05] <Nikro> usr13: videocard? I have no videocard, I have motherboard biostar that uses CPUs GPU
[17:05] <bubblehouse> i can't seem to get past the read-only status, and can't find a simple solution posted
[17:05] <usr13> bahamas: Replace it?
[17:05] <usr13> Nikro: Ok "chip"
[17:05] <bubblehouse> nuclearworm: you can usually do this through the package manager or seek out the folder and remove them directly
[17:05] <usr13> Nikro: What video chip is it?
[17:06] <Shatters> well, fixing my ubuntu usb was consuming my full attention until that smell. must.. resist.. distraction
[17:06] <usr13> Nikro: lspci
[17:06] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: natty. i'm on 64-bit ubuntu 11.04
[17:06] <nuclearworm> bubblehouse, which folder?
[17:06] <bahamas> usr13: how?
[17:06] <hdtdi> guys how can i open .cbr i installed sk1 i installed incscape. but when i open .cbr with either of the programs the files are empty.. (normally they arent)
[17:06] <weatherje> hello
[17:06] <usr13> bahamas: Buy another, pull the old one out, put in the new one.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: instead try unloading then loading the wireless driver module
[17:07] <weatherje> Ive a problem
[17:07] <Nikro> usr13: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[17:07] <weatherje> I wanted to install ubuntu and the installation cant install grub
[17:07] <weatherje> what hav i to do now
[17:07] <bahamas> usr13: another what? card?
[17:08] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: how do i do that?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: sudo modprobe -r name; sudo modprobe name
[17:08] <usr13> Nikro: That doesn't look like a model number.  Hummm.... May be an identification problem?   "Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller"
[17:08] <usr13> bahamas: Yes
[17:08] <Calinou> no option for this... can't disable it
[17:08] <Calinou> isn't there a shortcut to disable it?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: you can see what name is by running:  sudo lshw -C network
[17:08] <Calinou> it enabled it itself... without doing anything
[17:08] <pulb> hi guys, I've found a bug in oneiric which is pretty critical for me but fixing should take minutes (I attached a fix). could someone responsible please have a look and predict if a fix will make it into oneiric?
[17:08] <Shatters> god, that must be canadian bacon
[17:08] <bubblehouse> nuclearworm: sorry, I'm on another system can't think of it at the moment but you can look for it with places and surf around your packages
[17:09] <bubblehouse> package manager is the easiest way
[17:09] <pulb> its here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf2/+bug/864615
[17:09] <bubblehouse> from ubuntu if that is what you are using
[17:09] <vibedigital> if i had pfsense installed on a virtual machine like vmware, i could use this virtual machine like a internet gateway for other machines? it s that possible?
[17:09] <theadmin> pulb: You should just attach your patch there
[17:09] <weatherje> can anybody help me
[17:10] <pulb> theadmin: i did
[17:10] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: ok. the thing is that right now it's working, so i can't test it at the moment
[17:10] <theadmin> pulb: I think it'll be fixed before the release, but can't be sure
[17:10] <popsch> I am trying out 11.10 beta 2. Apt fails to update the kernel. I'm running the beta off a USB stick. Any ideas what goes wrong? Here's the transcript: http://pastebin.com/5LTtLVxk
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: try it later ;)
[17:10] <theadmin> !ubuntu+1 | pulb, popsch
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> popsch: wrong channel, type /j #ubuntu+1
[17:10] <pulb> theadmin: that would be awesome and save me a lot of packaging trouble
[17:10] <Shatters> update manager is currently installing all the new items for u. 10, and it changed my system time to advance by 5 hrs. strange
[17:11] <popsch> MonkeyDust, sorry. thanks.
[17:11] <theadmin> Shatters: Probably set your timezone back to UTC instead of whatever yours is supposed to be
[17:11] <Nikro> usr13: any tip how I can look at it? lspci gives only physical addresses and no model numbers
[17:12] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: i will. hopefully it will work. thanks
[17:12] <Nikro> usr13: CPU Intel Core i5-2400 (Intel HD Graphics) - that's from the pricelist
[17:12] <Shatters> yah. I just punched in the time.
[17:12] <weatherje> how can i install the bootmanager from ubuntu in the windows 7 boot manager. Im online from the live/cd
[17:13] <Polah> !grub | weatherje
[17:13] <theadmin> weatherje: You make no sense, you can't have both. You can replace bootmgr with GRUB, but that's the best you can get
[17:13] <glebihan> nuclearworm, you can just run "sudo apt-get clean" to delete all packages from the local repository
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> weatherje: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[17:13] <noisewaterphd> Nikro:  try lspci -nn | grep VGA (but actually grep whatever is applicable in your case, or just dont grep, whatever)
[17:13] <hdtdi> guys how can i open .cbr i installed sk1 i installed incscape. but when i open .cbr with either of the programs the files are empty.. (normally they arent) any idea?
[17:13] <Calinou> so... is there any shortcut to disable keypad mouse controls?
[17:13] <Calinou> I did NOT enable it in the menu
[17:14] <weatherje> i had installed windows at first and todz intslled ubuntu. but the ubuntu installation had an errror. grub wasnt installed
[17:14] <theadmin> weatherje: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[17:14] <nuclearworm> glebihan , thanks
[17:14] <noisewaterphd> hdtdi: you might get lucky on this channel, but really you should be asking that in an inkscape oriented venue
[17:14] <theadmin> weatherje: Actually, wait, I think we have a GUI tool for that now
[17:14] <theadmin> !grub > theadmin
[17:15] <hdtdi> noisewaterphd thaks
[17:15] <theadmin> weatherje: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:15] <Shatters> If update manager is 'applying changes' which it claims 'may take some time', is there a way to suspend or stop the application until later?
[17:16] <w30> !grub > w30
[17:16] <theadmin> Shatters: killall -SIGSTOP update-manager
[17:16] <theadmin> Shatters: After which, to continue, killall -SIGCONT update-manager
[17:16] <tomiro> #ubuntu-marketing seems to be dead so I'll ask in here.  Since Shipit is closed, I was wondering about the feasibility of picking up the ball and offering free discs through our (On-Disk.com) Quick Ship program?  We have already sent thousands of free discs for Xubuntu since shipit didn't offer Xubuntu discs.  If anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated.
[17:16] <Abhijit> tomiro, contact canonical on canonical.com
[17:18] <tomiro> Will do, thanks.
[17:18] <Nikro> usr13, noisewaterphd: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ...... [8086:0100] (rev 09) - not sure it helps
[17:19] <Shatters> back in a while.
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> already miss you, sh7dow
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> oops
[17:21] <jimi_> How can I adjust the idle time / lock ?
[17:21] <weatherje> Boot/repair had worked now. i will try to reboot now. thanks
[17:24] <Fernicia> Anyone know roughly how big the performance drop is when you install Ubuntu inside Windows?
[17:24] <theadmin> Fernicia: Just do not, it will break very soon, that thing isn't working well
[17:25] <Fernicia> Oh okay, thanks for the heads up.
[17:25] <theadmin> Fernicia: You can install Ubuntu alongside Windows quite easily without using the Windows installer
[17:25] <Fernicia> I suppose that means a reboot. Toodles
[17:26] <Fernicia> theadmin: Can you still access windows files from inside Ubuntu if you do an installation alnogside rather than in Windows?
[17:26] <noisewaterphd> Nikro, usr13, I don't even know what you guys were trying to do, I was just trying to help you get the model#
[17:26] <theadmin> Fernicia: Easily.
[17:26] <Fernicia> Great!
[17:26] <Nikro> noisewaterphd: thnx anyway :)
[17:27] <Fernicia> Thanks for you help
[17:27] <mobal> hello
[17:27] <mobal> just one more week and ubuntu 11.10 will be avaliable
[17:27] <drapedup> mobal: #ubuntu-offtopic is good for chatting
[17:28] <noisewaterphd> Nikro: anytime. what's going on? maybe I can help
[17:31] <Parsind> that music os trance?
[17:31] <Parsind> i thought it was house
[17:31] <Nikro> noisewaterphd: the thing is, I just bought core i5 with integrated GPU from nvidia, and just installed ubuntu 11.04 and it seems to have issues with GPU
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> Parsind: please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:32] <Nikro> noisewaterphd: it blinks weirdly and then just dies
[17:32] <ambuj> hey i have installed compiz in 11.04
[17:32] <Nikro> noisewaterphd: I've ran sudo apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and updated everything including Xorg.
[17:32] <ambuj> and in that i have selected profile default and reseted to default
[17:33] <ambuj> and now nothing coming except wallpaper
[17:33] <ambuj> not even taskbar
[17:33] <ambuj> what should i do
[17:33] <Nikro> noisewaterphd: the thing is that I've just noticed my friend passed me the 32bit version, you think that might be the issue? I'll download the 64bit and reinstall it tomorrow anyway..
[17:33] <ambuj> i have even tried restart but nothing happens
[17:34] <ambuj> please help me
[17:34] <mang0> !ask | ambuj
[17:35] <ambuj> :'( did i have to install ubuntu again?
[17:37] <ambuj> atleast can anybody tell me how to run compiz i can change settings again!
[17:38] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: compiz --replace
[17:38] <Calinou> so... is there any shortcut to disable keypad mouse controls?
[17:39] <przemo_rex> hi everybody
[17:40] <ambuj> girlygirl sorry its advanced desktop effects settings i have installed
[17:40] <ambuj> girlgirl and in that i have selected default profile and reset to defaults
[17:40] <ambuj> girlygirl now my whole taskbar gone just coming wallpaper
[17:40] <Nikro> noisewaterphd: hey thnx again, I'll get back here in a while, I have to close the office.
[17:40] <Calinou> so... is there any shortcut to disable keypad mouse controls?
[17:40] <ambuj> girlygirl i think it has disabled unity!
[17:41] <pepo> join #frack
[17:41] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Try running compiz --replace
[17:41] <ambuj> girlygirl what to do? :'(
[17:41] <ambuj> girlygirl where to run? i can even run terminal
[17:41] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Try running compiz --replace If that works, I can't be of much help sorry because I am a KDE user
[17:41] <ambuj> girlygirl from where to run it?
[17:41] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Oh hey, welcome back, long time no see :D
[17:41] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: CTRL ALT T
[17:42] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: :d
[17:42] <Calinou> FINALLY found it
[17:42] <ambuj> girlygirl nothing happening
[17:42] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Maybe restart ?
[17:43] <ambuj> done everything all that i can run is alt cntrl delete
[17:43] <ambuj> girlygirl where i can see options to shut down
[17:43] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Press CTRL + ALT + F1
[17:43] <theadmin> ambuj: Okay fine, can you select "Ubuntu Classic" at the login screen and see if that works?
[17:43] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: You can't deal with window managers from outside of X, no use with TTYs...
[17:44] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: Was going to tell restart
[17:44] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Ah I see
[17:44] <ambuj> theadmin i have set automatic login so cant change anything at login screen as it doesnt come!!!
[17:44] <theadmin> ambuj: Edit /etc/gdm.conf to disable autologin.
[17:44] <Igcom> !ciao
[17:45] <ambuj> theadmim ahhh where to write that even terminal isnt opening when i press alt cntrl t
[17:45] <theadmin> ambuj: Use a TTY as GirlyGirl has suggested.
[17:46] <ambuj> theadmin alt cntrl f1 works something coming shubham login
[17:46] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: CTRL + ALT + F1, then logon, then nano /etc/gdm.conf
[17:46] <foobar_> hello everyone
[17:46] <smit88> ciao a tutti
[17:47] <theadmin> !es | smit88
[17:47] <ambuj> girlygirl ok now what?
[17:47] <foobar_> i want to install a HP printer at my mum's laptop but hp-setup refuses to install the binary package because the signature is broken. is this a known problem?
[17:47] <ambuj> girlygirl am not liking the looks it lokking like old black and white computer!!!
[17:47] <ambuj> girlygirl :(
[17:47] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Disable auto logon
[17:48] <smit88> the list?
[17:48] <przemo_rex> hi, I've got difficulties seting up my new router Netgear WNR3500L, I'm not able to connect to it with wifi whatsoever and when I took it to the service they said everything was OK and worked splendit. Does anybody have any experience with this device
[17:48] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: theadmin can be of better help there I am not familiar with GDM
[17:48] <ambuj> girlygirl how to disable it??
[17:48] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Do you think *I* am?
[17:49] <foobar_> somebody familiar with hp-setup from hplib package?
[17:49] <ambuj> the admin girlygirl i have opened etc/gdm.config now what to do?
[17:49] <GirlyGirl> ambuj:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1209043
[17:49] <android> have tried Linux now for 2hours first time ever and its very fast and think its great.........been looking at my wifi conection and seems like it cant find my realtek ethernet device HEEELPP
[17:49] <theadmin> ambuj: Now, comment out the line saying "AutomaticLoginEnable=true"
[17:50] <B0g4r7> argh, Google Earth hates me.
[17:50] <escott> android, you might want to use jockey-gtk to try and install proprietary drivers.
[17:50] <Calinou> realtek + linux = don't use.
[17:50] <Calinou> it's the ATI of the wifi
[17:50] <android> why?
[17:50] <ambuj> theadmin nothing coming jst coming blinking cursor
[17:50] <ambuj> theadmin and top written /etc/gdm.config
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> realtek loves linux
[17:51] <theadmin> ambuj: Ugh, you wrote the filename wrong you...
[17:51] <Calinou> heh nope
[17:51] <cristian_c> Hi
[17:51] <android> YES thats it what files i need=?
[17:51] <ambuj> theadmin and on bottom comminnew file and some commands
[17:51] <theadmin> ambuj: Exit nano, open /etc/gdm.conf
[17:51] <GirlyGirl> Calinou: I use so many realtek network cards and they all work
[17:51] <cristian_c> The problem is about a keyboard called Wireless Media Desktop (by Labtec): many buttons do not work with KeyTouch. I noticed that the codes for keys do not match in KeyTouch and Xev
[17:51] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Mind replying to my PM? :D
[17:51] <B0g4r7> So I downloaded and installed "google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb".  I end up with "googleearth-bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped" -- That sure doesn't look like an amd64 binary to me...
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: there are even source files, you can make drivers
[17:51] <ambuj> the ok
[17:51] <cristian_c> Why?
[17:51] <GirlyGirl> Calinou: Ah didn't read wifi
[17:51] <B0g4r7> When I run it, it just segfaults, despite my having installed the ia32-libs package.
[17:52] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: Chrome is playing tricks on me can't see the pm
[17:52] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Chrome?...
[17:52] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Try "/query theadmin" or just /msg me something random
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> B0g4r7: did you install googleearth-package from medibuntu repo?
[17:52] <ambuj> theadmin i have reset the laptop now booting up
[17:52] <antihoax> ahah
[17:52] <antihoax> someone tell her how to start x-chat
[17:53] <noisewaterphd> chrome has a couple irc plugins
[17:53] <B0g4r7> ActionParsnip, I downloaded the deb directly from google, I believe,
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> B0g4r7: I suggest you use the medibuntu repo
[17:53] <B0g4r7> ActionParsnip, will try that, thx.
[17:53] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Has it logged in normally
[17:54] <antihoax> is this considered performance desktop? T: 0 (14374) P:80 I:   10000 C:   10000 Min:       4 Act:       4 Max:      35
[17:54] <antihoax> (<35us latency)
[17:54] <ambuj> girlygirl ya jst comes ubuntu wrritten while booting and than comes wallpaper and nothing else
[17:54] <noisewaterphd> B0g4r7: jumping in late here, but does your output give any clues to perhaps a missing library, or anything useful at all?
[17:54] <hey_joe> i have been allowing my mysql server remote host connects from say 12.12.12.0/24.... what if i want to allow 12.12.X.X ? is that /16?
[17:54] <ambuj> theadmin ok now am in etc/gdm/conf
[17:54] <w30> ambuj, how is your box set up for networking? modem, router, broadband?
[17:54] <ambuj> theadmin now what
[17:55] <theadmin> *sighs*
[17:55] <ambuj> w30 router
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> hey_joe: yes
[17:55] <noisewaterphd> B0g4r7: sorry, not keeping up here, ya try the different package first then we'll worry about it if you still have trouble
[17:55] <w30> ambuj, got another computer?
[17:55] <theadmin> Could someone with more patience than me help ambuj configure GDM into a non-autologin mode via a TTY by editing the conf file?
[17:55] <B0g4r7> noisewaterphd, no output is shown other than the segfault notice.
[17:56] <ambuj> w30 yaa obviously working from other computer coz the one am talking about not working jst coming wallpaper on it in that unity is not starting and neither i can change login option as its automatic login
[17:57] <noisewaterphd> ambuj: can you ctrl-alt-f4 and then start classic?
[17:58] <hey_joe> i have been allowing my mysql server remote host connects from say 12.12.12.0/24.... what if i want to allow 12.12.X.X ? is that /16?
[17:58] <ambuj> noisewaterphd ok doing that bt right now am in ttyl in etc/gdm/config what to do abt that?
[17:58] <w30> ambuj, ssh into the troubled box with x and run ccms example:ssh -X kolklay@192.168.1.106 ccsm  (in my box, adjust for yours
[17:59] <fritsch> hey_joe: yes
[17:59] <escott> ambuj, i think you just need to run sudo mv config config.bak; sudo service gdm restart;
[17:59] <ambuj> its all due to advanced desktop effect settings bloody hell bad application :'(
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> w30: could also add -C option too :)
[18:00] <ambuj> hey i cant start terminal!!! :( so how can i use sudo?
[18:00] <ambuj> :(
[18:00] <w30> ambuj, ActionParsnip what does that do?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> ambuj: can you use xterm?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> w30: compression ;)
[18:00] <escott> ambuj, you said you were at a ttyl. that is a terminal
[18:01] <w30> ActionParsnip, never tried that; will next time :=)
[18:01] <ambuj> ok i dont know that all am seeing ttyl in new black and white form i used to watch in purple!!! escott
[18:02] <ambuj> actionparsnip what is xterm?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> ambuj: its an alternative to gnome-terminal
[18:02] <ambuj> hey hey i think i need to repeat my problem
[18:02] <ambuj> coz everyone coming with different method
[18:02] <mrtc> could I get some help? Right click not working with Macbook pro / Natty
[18:03] <ambuj> i have installed adanced desktop effect settings application from ubuntu software centre
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> ambuj: you said "i cant start terminal"  so I gave an alternate app which does the same thing to try
[18:03] <noisewaterphd> mrtc: two finger tap?
[18:03] <ambuj> than in that i have changed profile from unity to default and reseted to default
[18:03] <mrtc> noisewaterphd: no dice
[18:03] <flashnotworking> Hi, flash is not working on this laptop. I went to youtube, said I need to install a plugin. I don't get it, flash used to work on this laptop
[18:04] <mrtc> noisewaterphd: tried instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-1/Natty as well
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> flashnotworking: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf'        use a pastebin to hold the outpupt
[18:04] <ambuj> than all of suddon unity stops and all i can see advanced desktop window i minimized it and hell know where it gone than i restarted system using power buttons
[18:05] <flashnotworking> can I get a link to pastebin
[18:05] <Aegir> Aegir heeft verlaten (Has Quit)
[18:05] <mrtc> noisewaterphd: it's a newer model too, I heard there may be some problem with new product id's or something similar
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> ambuj: press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace
[18:05] <ambuj> now each time i comes with wallpaper nothing else on screen when i start system
[18:05] <io> !pastebin | flashnotworking
[18:05] <noisewaterphd> mrtc: I assume you have tinkered with all of your settings already? If youve already been through the mactel pages then I'm afraid I cant offer any more insight than you already have
[18:05] <mrtc> noisewaterphd: yeah, lots of tinkering :(
[18:05] <mrtc> noisewaterphd: thanks anyway
[18:05] <B0g4r7> Hm, Google Earth for Natty does not seem to be available via the medibuntu repo...
[18:06] <noisewaterphd> mrtc: that may be true, mine is about a year and a half old now, but I git everything working ok
[18:06] <ambuj> actionparsnip ok doin it
[18:06] <flashnotworking> http://paste.ubuntu.com/702890/
[18:06] <B0g4r7> The help page notes "Currently only available for hardy, karmic and lucid".
[18:06] <mrtc> noisewaterphd: what model's yours?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ambuj: log into Ubuntu Classic and you can run: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz   and it will reset compiz to defaults
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> flashnotworking: ok so the dpkg command outputted nothing?
[18:07] <ambuj> actionparnsnip alt f2 not working and my system automatically login so cant see login screen it doesnt come
[18:07] <B0g4r7> "Note that google does not provide a 64 bit version of Google Earth. Thus installation on x64 system will take some extra efforts."   Doh.
[18:07] <ambuj> actionparsnip all it working is alt cntrl f1
[18:07] <flashnotworking> dpkg? I just copy and pasted that lsb release thing
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> flashnotworking: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> ambuj: log in to ubntu classic session at boot
[18:08] <ambuj> actionparsnip i have said na its automatic login so login screen doesnt comes at boot
[18:09] <ambuj> actionparsnip ubuntu directly started
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> ambuj: edit the system to not autologin and reboot
[18:09] <ambuj> hell what no one understanding my problem!!! :'(
[18:09] <ambuj> actionparsnip how to do that
[18:10] <ambuj> actionparsnip even alt cntrl t not working
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> ambuj: the web will answer that, you need to edit gdm.conf but I gotta jet. Autologin stops you being able to solve basic things with the classic desktop (no compiz)
[18:10] <flashnotworking> actionparsnip:thanks, thats fixed it now
[18:11] <chirag_d_gr8> Is it possible to order a ubuntu official disk?
[18:11] <pocketprotector> Hey, I'm having some general aptitude issues, can somebody take a look at this log? http://pastebin.ca/2087167  - thanks.
[18:11] <ambuj> actionparsnip am in tty1 pressing alt cntrl f1 now what to do
[18:12] <ambuj> actionparsnip nothing on net!
[18:12] <flashnotworking> Ok, that worked. Can someone tell actionparsnip that downloading the flash package worked
[18:13] <w30> ambuj, what do you mean when you say alt ctrl  t ?
[18:13] <ambuj> w30 i mean terminal not opening!!
[18:13] <BlueWolf> Hi, I foolishly formatted my Ipod like a flash stick, by right clicking it on the desktop and clicking format. Now it is not mounting in both my Ubuntu 10.10 or windows. when it's plugged in to my computer it restarts itself every ten seconds, does anyone know how I can fix it, Please?
[18:14] <ambuj> anyone please solve my problem is i have to install ubuntu again??
[18:14] <ambuj> :'(
[18:14] <pocketprotector> ambuj What's going on?
[18:15] <w30> did you press Alt Ctrl and F2 at the same time (all three keys)?
[18:15] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, restore firmware with itunes.
[18:15] <ambuj> pocketprotector  hey i have repeated my problem many times none can solve it.... :(
[18:16] <ambuj> my unity is disabled
[18:16] <ambuj> all coming is desktop wallpaper
[18:16] <pocketprotector> Has anybody ever seen the aptitude messages i pasted above? It's a vicious cycle, I can't seem to fully install the applications through aptitude and apt-get.
[18:16] <Shatters> still can't figure out how to enable login screen at startup of ub. 10 persistent usb
[18:16] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: mind using another de for a while then?
[18:16] <ambuj> and i have automatic login
[18:16] <w30> ambuj, did you press Alt Ctrl and F2 at the same time (all three keys)?
[18:17] <ambuj> girlygirl whats this jst unity disabled everything works fine except that
[18:17] <ambuj> girlygirl even when i press alt cntrl dlete
[18:17] <ambuj> girlygirl scrren comes to select shutdown hibernate etc etc
[18:18] <ambuj> girlygirl even when i click on help of that section  its working but when i minimize or close that all gone nothing comes on scrren except wallpaper
[18:18] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: It will not mount in Ubuntu or windows. It does not show. So what else do you suggest???
[18:18] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Can you open terminal
[18:19] <ambuj> girlygirl alt cntrl t not working
[18:19] <w30> ambuj, did you press Alt Ctrl and F2 at the same time (all three keys)?
[18:19] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, it doesn't show in iTunes (on windows)?
[18:19] <ambuj> girlygirl all that working is alt cntrl f1
[18:20] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Yes.. Nothing.
[18:20] <Teh_Lemon> except official help on non LTS versions
[18:20] <ambuj> w30 yes alt cntrl f2 opens up now what
[18:20] <Teh_Lemon> does apt-get work after they expire?
[18:20] <Teh_Lemon> i struggle between 10.10 and 10.04
[18:20] <ambuj> w30 something coming shubham login:
[18:20] <ambuj> w30 now what?
[18:20] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, You may need to boot it (the ipod) into DFU mode then and then rewrite the firmware.  You will likely lose any content on the device by doing thes.
[18:21] <w30> ambuj, cd /etc/gdm
[18:21] <ambuj> w30 its asking for password
[18:22] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: The software on it is backed up, that's not the problem. The problem for me is getting it working again. Could you help me do that?
[18:22] <phoenixsampras> help!!
[18:22] <phoenixsampras> how to play BLUERAY!!!! SOS HELP SOS HELP SOS HELP SOS HELP SOS HELP
[18:22] <ambuj> w30 ok cd /etc/gdm opened now what?
[18:22] <DustyMonk> !helpme| phoenixsampras
[18:23] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, You will basically want to enter DFU mode, connect it by USB, and iTunes should walk you through the rest.  There many tutorial pages and videos on the net that show how to enter DFU mode.
[18:23] <ambuj> w30 ?? now what plz tell me
[18:23] <w30> ambuj, then sudo  nano custom.conf and change the lineAutomaticLoginEnable=true to false and save it
[18:24] <w30> ambuj, then reboot
[18:24] <ambuj> w30 i have changed it to false now how to save it?
[18:25] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: CTRL + X
[18:25] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Can't I do it in Ubuntu? And just so you know when it is connected it like restarts itself. This was the site I looked at and I found that it did not help (  http://geeknizer.com/how-to-fix-corrupted-ipod/  )
[18:25] <pocketprotector> i did some cleanup on my dpkg errors. please advise. http://pastebin.ca/2087174
[18:25] <w30> ambuj, while in nano ctrl X and the yes
[18:25] <phoenixsampras> how to play a Blueray disk?
[18:25] <weatherje> hello again
[18:25] <ambuj> w30 ok done something written wrote 8 lines now what?
[18:26] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: sudo init 6
[18:26] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, while it may be possible in Ubuntu, using iTunes is the way I would recommend.  This page describes the procedure to enbter DFU mode: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1034
[18:26] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Bad idea, "sudo reboot"
[18:27] <weatherje> I have repaired now my grub with the boot-repair tool. I can boot now Ubuntu 11.04, but it asks me to install release. Whats that?
[18:27] <zebastianortis> FP4 IS OUT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lx5l4HKq6s
[18:27] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: They phased out runlevels... 0 and 6 are still there but not for long I think
[18:27] <ambuj> girlygirl u know nothing all giving working steps is w30!!
[18:27] <w30> ambuj, that will give you passwd login screen and you can pick ubuntu or classic at the bottom after you click on your user name
[18:27] <ambuj> w30 ok rebooted now login screen coming now what?
[18:27] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: That makes no sense grammatically
[18:28] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: w30 is not a step
[18:28] <oCean> !google | test
[18:28] <w30> ambuj, that will give you passwd login screen and you can pick ubuntu or classic at the bottom after you click on your user name
[18:28] <g0t_> Results for | test on Google:
[18:28] <g0t_> --
[18:28] <g0t__> Results for | test on Google:
[18:28] <g0t__> --
[18:28] <ambuj> girlygirl u take grammer with u... :P i want help from u!!!
[18:28] <weatherje> I have repaired now my grub with the boot-repair tool. I can boot now Ubuntu 11.04, but it asks me to install release. Whats that?
[18:28] <B0g4r7> GirlyGirl, realize please that English is not the first language of some people here, and that English grammar is not the easiest thing to learn.
[18:29] <phoenixsampras> hello??
[18:29] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: But if I get stuck then I can't get help. And I don't use the internet on my windows, all I use it for is Games and my Ipod. But this site will explain? And how do I get it to mount?
[18:29] <weatherje> Can anybody speak german here?
[18:29] <IdleOne> !de
[18:29] <oCean> !de | weatherje
[18:29] <GirlyGirl> B0g4r7: It is also not polite to say "you know nothing"
[18:30] <weatherje> thanks
[18:30] <ambuj> w30 ok now i got taskbar but cant i use unity again??
[18:30] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, forget about mounting it until you have performed the restore procedure.  You will need to be able to download the firmware file (which iTunes will do for you if able).
[18:30] <w30> ambuj, do any of those options give you a useable desktop?
[18:30] <Assertion> Hi all I have a problem with my wifi connection. Since I changed it from channel 11 to 13 I'm not able to connect even I dont see it on wireles list. I'm sure that is a regional restriction but I cant find where to change it since I'm at spain.
[18:31] <GirlyGirl> B0g4r7: ambuj could have politely said "I do not want your help" instead
[18:31] <chirag_d_gr8> ubuntu 11.10 is releasing soon and i am thinking to install ubuntu 11.10 using wubi. It will replace my current mint bootloader. If i wish to restore my mint bootloader, how to do it?
[18:31] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Oh and my Ipod is a 5th Generation 16Gb. Can I download this file in Ubuntu then move it to windows?
[18:32] <ambuj> girlygirl sorry for my english and also my behaviour actually am bit too frustated now my system working fine thanks all specially w30!! :D
[18:32] <ambuj> w30 ubuntu option not working all i get in that is wallpaper
[18:32] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, You can...be sure to get the correct one for your device.
[18:32] <Polah> chirag_d_gr8, WUBI does not have it's own bootloader. It piggybacks on the Windows bootloader to load itself. For an actual common-use system, WUBI is not recommended either.
[18:32] <ambuj> w30 ubuntu classic working fine but with no unity!!!
[18:33] <ambuj> girlygirl hope you dont mind!!1 am sorry!!!!
[18:33] <w30> ambuj, run ccsm from a terminal and put it back like it was.
[18:33] <ambuj> girlygirl its am frustated little bit!! sorry!!!
[18:33] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Never mind ...
[18:34] <chirag_d_gr8> Polah: if i install ubuntu on another primary drive, will it replace my current mint bootloader? and if i wish to restore my mint bootloader, how to do it?
[18:34] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: This site you gave me where do I find my Ipod type?
[18:35] <ambuj> w30 hey ur my hero its doing something and also culprit application advanced desktop effect open up automatically when i press ccsm
[18:35] <Polah> chirag_d_gr8: Yes, it will reinstall GRUB2 over Mint's install of it and use Ubuntu to configure it, you could reset it to be configured by Mint if you wish afterwards. GRUB will be able to load any system you have installed.
[18:35] <w30> ambuj, if you can't create a new user and copy his .compiz or .config directories to you and then chmod -R you.you those directories
[18:36] <phoenixsampras> how to play a Blueray disk? <<<< hello?
[18:37] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, hmm, that's a good question...I was assuming it was an iOS device (iPod Touch).  I believe the Classic iPods also have a Recover Mode of sorts...
[18:38] <w30> ambuj, w30 recommends everyone have a login and have grub with a timeout for when things f*ck up
[18:38] <ambuj> w30 hey everytime i type ccsm advanced desktop effect  opens up and processing stops in terminal what to do?
[18:38] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Well is it the same with my Ancient hardware? An Ipod 5th Generation 16Gb??
[18:38] <th0r> phoenixsampras: have you even tried to help yourself? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[18:38] <chirag_d_gr8> Polah: actually my chipset or bios does not make me run linux on my laptop. I tried installing ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu all gave boot time error
[18:38] <Assertion> I have a problem with my wifi connection. Since I changed it from channel 11 to 13 I'm not able to connect even I dont see it on wireles list. I'm sure that is a regional restriction but I cant find where to change it since I'm at spain. I'm using broadcom sta driver (wl)
[18:39] <chirag_d_gr8> i do not want ubuntu grub to damage my current set of os
[18:40] <chirag_d_gr8> if i deallocate the space taken by ubuntu, its boot loader would be deleted and i am left with unusable hdd
[18:40] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, I'm afraid I don't have much information for you there.  While I am pretty familiar with iOS devices, I haven't really any experience with the previous generations...
[18:40] <w30> ambuj, you should get compizconfig  settings manager by typing ccsm in a terminal
[18:40] <chirag_d_gr8> should i take the risk?
[18:41] <ambuj> w30 but now what to do in that to make it normal again?
[18:41] <ambuj> w30 select unity profile and reset it to default??
[18:41] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Ha ha ha ha, Ya that helps lots.... Is there anyone else who knows how to fix this problem?
[18:42] <phoenixsampras> doesnt work
[18:42] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, possibly of help: http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/five_rs/ipod5gen/
[18:42] <phoenixsampras> how to play a Blueray disk? <<<< hello?
[18:42] <cosmicb> I want to change everything purple/pink in ubuntu. stuff like splash, desktop background, gdm/lightdm is no problem, but how about the purple/pink menus in terminal ? like when doing f.example dpkg-reconfigure exim4, the menus are purple.... anyone got any pointers where to start looking into it ? or which phrase to google ?
[18:42] <w30> ambuj, well, on the right on each effect choice you can reset to default, do not know a way to mass reset offhand
[18:43] <ambuj> w30 ok
[18:43] <GirlyGirl> phoenixsampras: Not possible
[18:44] <GirlyGirl> phoenixsampras: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[18:44] <w30> ambuj, ah found it preferences on the left then reset to defaults
[18:44] <w30> ambuj, try that
[18:44] <antihoax> GirlyGirl<< dont you wanna use a chat program?
[18:44] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Well I have tryed most of the stuff there. Thanks for the help there. Thanks.
[18:45] <ambuj> w30 i have created mess from there only in that initially profile unity selected i have selected profile default and reset to default and all problem started from than only!!!
[18:45] <antihoax> GirlyGirl<< applications >> internet >> xchat
[18:45] <GirlyGirl> antihoax: ????????
[18:46] <bjoswald83> sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:46] <Layke2> Is it common to edit fstab file directly?
[18:46] <th0r> GirlyGirl: why are they picking on you all of a sudden?
[18:46] <antihoax> GirlyGirl<< you know, a program like msn, connecting on IRC chat (here)
[18:46] <Layke2> Or is there something I can use graphically via shell to manage my file system partitions?
[18:46] <GirlyGirl> antihoax: Yes i know so ...
[18:47] <w30> ambuj, so, have you got a usable system now?
[18:47] <B0g4r7> Layke2, yes, editing fstab directly is fairly common.
[18:48] <ambuj> w30 no still coming only wallpaper in ubuntu mode!!
[18:48] <ambuj> w30 what to do for reset and which profile to select in ccsm unity or default?
[18:48] <Layke2> I have no idea what I'm doing really with fstab, I can clearly Google to figure it out, but was just wondering if there is something like a config manager which will help me.
[18:49] <w30> ambuj, try both I guess? I don't know........
[18:49] <quang> hello, i'm new to Ubuntu... anyone know how to disable the "keyring" thing for Chrome ?
[18:49] <GirlyGirl> w30: I have the same symptom after an install of ubuntu-desktop on a system running Kubuntu Natty, but I'm not bothered as I use KDE and only put unity for test purposes
[18:49] <ambuj> w30 can you please tell me all settings of ur ccsm individually?
[18:49] <B0g4r7> Layke2, man fstab should tell you a bit about it.  There may be a GUI tool to manage fstab, but I don't know of one.
[18:49] <GirlyGirl> w30: On oneric it works
[18:49] <ambuj> w30 starting from general category?
[18:50] <ambuj> w30 i will make changes accoring to ur system than maybe it will become usable system
[18:50] <tobe> Hello again. I have a problem. I dont have any volume. ( i install and uninstall some programs) how can i get sound back. also i dont have the volume button on my panel, any help please
[18:50] <w30> ambuj, if you can't create a new user and copy his .compiz or .config directories to you and then chmod -R you.you those directories
[18:51] <nivek> is trying to get camfrog wo work on ubunta with no luck
[18:51] <usr13> tobe: alsamixer
[18:51] <w30> ambuj, if you can't  fix ccms create a new user and copy his .compiz or .config directories to you and then chmod -R you.you those directories
[18:51] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: Under Ubuntu classic run the following
[18:51] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: unity --reset
[18:51] <uhu01> I have a small problem with my ubuntu installation: my .Xdefaults file gets ignored, which leads to wrong font etc. when I start xterm. I have to run xrdb -merge every time I restart that the settings get loaded. Is it by design that the ~/.Xdefaults file is not loaded?
[18:51] <GirlyGirl> ambuj: unity --reset-icons
[18:52] <usr13> !sound | tobe
[18:52] <B0g4r7> IMO, running unity is an exercise in pain, with classic desktop being vastly preferable.
[18:53] <jerware> hi
[18:53] <sammy> anyone using earcandy?
[18:53] <paulus68> Hi I have a 1 terrabyte external harddrive with prox 450G free space (drive is formatted as NTFS) if I want to move a file from 100G to that drive it stops at aproximatly at 4G what am I overlooking here?
[18:54] <Layke2> B0g4r7,  Cheers.
[18:54] <jerware> sleep 15 && conky  <-- doesn
[18:54] <Layke2> How can I find out how a partition is formatted?
[18:54] <w30> B0g4r7, I agree with Steve J. Who wants peanut butter all over their desktop screen!
[18:54] <jerware> sleep 15 && conky  <-- doesn't work in startup applications
[18:54] <sammy> paulus68: when you try to move the file from the 100gb partition to the 4gb partition, what happens?
[18:55] <sammy> paulus68: I'm confused as to what youre asking is all
[18:55] <sammy> Layke2: are you running X? 'disk utility' is super handy.
[18:55] <dv310p3r> anyone got any suggestions for a good Navicat like application for ubuntu?
[18:55] <Layke2> sammy,  No I'm not.
[18:56] <B0g4r7> Layke2, 'file -s /path/to/the/device/containing/the/filesystem' should tell you
[18:56] <paulus68> sammy: well I have on my server a file of 100G that I want to move to my external HD where 400G is available however when I am using mv or cp the transfer stops after about 4G stating that there is not enough diskspace
[18:56] <tobe> Does anyone know how to add the sound applet. i dont know what happened to it
[18:56] <sammy> gold star to B0g4r7, you learn something new every day
[18:57] <sammy> paulus68: possibly because NTFS doesnt support files over 4gb?
[18:57] <Layke2> B0g4r7,  Yeah it does thanks. ext3
[18:57] <sammy> paulus68: no that cant be right
[18:58] <paulus68> sammy: it can
[18:58] <Layke2> I couldn't get the mount to work when I specified ext3, so I changed fstab to "auto" and it seemed to them work.
[18:58] <Layke2> ls
[18:58] <chirag_d_gr8> is it possible to replace ubuntu boot loader with windows bootloader without windows recovery console?
[18:59] <paulus68> jerware: did you see these pages for your conky script? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=158
[18:59] <usr13> sammy: I don't think that is it.  I think NTFS does support filesizes over 4G
[18:59] <sammy> paulus68: are you sure there is 400gb and not 4gb? sorry, have to ask you to confirm :P max file size on ntfs is bigger than 4gb
[18:59] <B0g4r7> I always have issues when trying to write an a USB drive containing a filesystem type other than the type preferred by the OS I'm currently using.  I've taken to making a few partitions containing differing fs types on these drives, and writing to whichever the OS I'm currently using likes best.
[19:00] <usr13> sammy: NTFS supports file sizes up to 17,592,185,978,880 bytes (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS )
[19:01] <B0g4r7> It's too bad all these OS vendors don't all add good support for at least one "open" filesystem to their products out-of-the-box.
[19:01] <paulus68> sammy: http://pastebin.ca/2087181
[19:02] <sammy> paulus68: and youre sure its ntfs and not fat32? do you know if the ntfs partition is "optimized for performance" in other words, is it compressed?
[19:02] <paulus68> sammy: I am sure it's ntfs
[19:03] <ubuntu_> hello
[19:04] <B0g4r7> goodbye
[19:04] <sammy> paulus68: I'm stumped. sorry.
[19:05] <brontosaurusrex> should i go 64 bit on atom?
[19:05] <paulus68> sammy: however you make me wonder if it is really NTFS what is the command to find out if it is NTFS or another format?
[19:05] <usr13> paulus68: Which drive are you talking about? sda sdb sdc sdd or sde ?
[19:05] <B0g4r7> brontosaurusrex, I'm running 64-bit natty on an atom and it works fine for me.
[19:05] <sammy> paulus68: try just typing 'mount'
[19:05] <usr13> paulus68: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[19:05] <B0g4r7> brontosaurusrex, different atoms have different cababilities tho, so you should check yours.
[19:06] <usr13> paulus68: mount | pastebinit
[19:06] <usr13> let us see
[19:06] <usr13> Send resulting URLs
[19:06] <B0g4r7> I was disappointed to find that I could not run 64-bit VMs on mine, due to lack of vt-x.
[19:06] <brontosaurusrex>  Intel Atom N330 dual-core 1.60GHz processor  it is
[19:07] <usr13> paulus68: What command are you using to transfer the file?
[19:07] <B0g4r7> brontosaurusrex, that's what I have also.
[19:07] <paulus68> usr13 http://pastebin.com/tHZh21jJ   I use mv
[19:07] <brontosaurusrex> cool, thanks
[19:08] <Sean_> i have a terminal command running atm and i need to boot into my other os for a moment, is there anyway i can pause the cammand and the start it again after i boot back into ubuntu?
[19:09] <faLUCE> Hi, I can't login anymore from gdm ... It let me choose the user, but it doesn't show me the password dialog. and comes back to the user choose dialog... how can I solve? It seems a serious gdm/gnome bug
[19:09] <sammy> Sean_: you can pause commands in a shell, but their state doesn't stay preserved over reboot. what kind of command are you running?
[19:09] <llutz> Sean_: reboot same machine? then no
[19:09] <BlueWolf> Could someone help me, I have formatted my Ipod 5th Generation my right clicking it on the desktop and it won't read on both my Linux and windows. It wont mount. Does anyone have a solution?
[19:09] <Sean_> im running cat, i joing some large files together
[19:09] <Sean_> i'm*
[19:09] <Sean_> joining*
[19:09] <usr13> paulus68: mv  file /media/mybook  or  mv file /media/backup1  or  mv file /media/application  or mv file /media/personal
[19:10] <bnjmn> free dropbox pro for life contest http://appsumo.com/~Bgam
[19:10] <llutz> bnjmn: stop spamming
[19:10] <edbian> Hello ?
[19:10] <paulus68> usr13: mv *.tar /media/mybook/server-backup
[19:11] <B0g4r7> Sean_, I would just wait for it to finish.  FWIW, if your machine is fairly powerful, you might consider running windows in a VM using VirtualBox or similar.  That way you can boot Windows without shutting down your other OS.
[19:12] <usr13> paulus68: Ok, well that is /dev/sde1  and it is vfat
[19:12] <Sean_> B0g4r7, alright, ty. And i'll look in to the vm option
[19:12] <faLUCE> Hi, I can't login anymore from gdm ... It let me choose the user, but it doesn't show me the password dialog. and comes back to the user choose dialog... how can I solve? It seems a serious gdm/gnome bug
[19:12] <usr13> paulus68: and it is 420G partition that is  56% full.
[19:13] <B0g4r7> faLUCE, yeah, that does sound rather bad.  Can you login on tty1?  I would check the system log for errors.
[19:13] <Zanzacar> close
[19:13] <faLUCE> B0g4r7: yes, I can
[19:13] <cccangel> hello, is it recommended to upgrade the kernel in ubuntu from 2.6.x to 3.0.x?
[19:13] <paulus68> usr13: it's 1 TB with 420G available yes
[19:13] <cccangel> would it break any dependencies or whatnot?
[19:13] <faLUCE> B0g4r7: what should I check ?
[19:13] <usr13> paulus68: And the file size limit for vfat is  4 GB minus 1 byte
[19:13] <B0g4r7> faLUCE, I would look at /var/log/system.log especially.
[19:14] <Pici> cccangel: Best to wait until it comes as an upgrade if/when you move to 11.10.
[19:14] <usr13> paulus68: See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vfat
[19:14] <paulus68> usr13: true
[19:14] <newbie_> hi all
[19:14] <B0g4r7> faLUCE, er, /var/log/syslog (if you're on natty).  And maybe also the Xorg log in the same dir.
[19:14] <cccangel> is the ubuntu team aware of the security fixes in the 3.0.x kernel?
[19:15] <ikonia> cccangel: yes
[19:15] <cccangel> and where can i find info about 11.10 so i can read about the changes?
[19:15] <B0g4r7> kernel 3.0 huh... :surfs over to kernel.org to have a look:
[19:15] <ikonia> cccangel: read the topic in #ubuntu+1 channel
[19:15] <paulus68> usr13: is there a way that I can convert it from vfat to ntfs without loosing the data on it as it is possible under windows?
[19:15] <awesomeness> hey all, does Ubuntu have a standart/downloadable application with what I can check my HDD in order to make sure does it work properly? or has it bad sectors ? I think I don't work as needed how may I check that?
[19:16] <DustyMonk> awesomeness: try fsck and badblocks
[19:16] <faLUCE> B0g4r7: the system was configured without login password. then, I configured it to ask login password again and it happened this mess
[19:16] <BlueWolf> I there anyone here who knows about fixing Ipods in Ubuntu?
[19:16] <usr13> paulus68: no
[19:17] <th0r> BlueWolf: a nano?
[19:17] <paulus68> usr13: ok thx
[19:17] <ikonia> BlueWolf: define "fixing"
[19:17] <faLUCE> B0g4r7: there are not useful infos in the files you say
[19:17] <BlueWolf> th0r: A nano 5th Generation.
[19:17] <usr13> paulus68: Or at least not that I know of. Changing filesystem requires you to  format the partition.
[19:17] <awesomeness> DustyMonk, can i download both from Ubuntu software center ?
[19:18] <DustyMonk> awesomeness: they are Terminal commands
[19:18] <BlueWolf> ikonia: It won't show up in my Ubuntu or windows, as when I plug it in it wont show up.
[19:18] <awesomeness> DustyMonk, oh i see thanks let me give a try and can i get something out of it
[19:18] <th0r> BlueWolf: I have been playing a lot with mine recently in preparation for my soon to arrive touch.From what I have learned, you cannot repair (restore) it from linux. I cannot even get it to work via xp in a vm, but it does restore in xp on another machine.
[19:18] <fabio333_> BlueWolf, try with rhytmbox
[19:18] <Aniar> any big networking geeks in here who are still using /etc/network/interfaces rather than network-manager ?
[19:19] <ikonia> BlueWolf: sounds like a hardware issue if it's not showing up with both
[19:19] <fabio333_> or amarok if you are in the kde thing
[19:19] <usr13> paulus68: Is it possible under MS Windows to change format type from vfat to ntfs without loosing data?
[19:19] <gnaddel> Is my google-result, that it's currently not possible to use netatalk to create a time machine backup volume for osx-lion, correct?
[19:19] <sammy> anyone using earcandy? or have any experience with pulseaudio... at all? Im curious about its auto-volume-changing features when notifications are played.
[19:19] <sammy> Aniar: ive used the interfaces file before, whats up
[19:19] <Aniar> I'm trying to figure out if I can set the MTU on my network to 9000 if I have a specific IP address.
[19:19] <awesomeness> DustyMonk, fsck commands tells me "WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[19:19] <awesomeness> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage."
[19:19] <fabio333_> ipod isn't supposed to show up like a usb-storage
[19:19] <paulus68> usr13: yes
[19:20] <Aniar> sammy: everything *else* on my net uses jumbo frames, so I want my laptop to, as well, but not if I'm on site at a customer who won't support it.
[19:20] <B0g4r7> fabio333_, bear in mind, this is a "classic ipod", not an iOS device like Touch.
[19:20] <DustyMonk> awesomeness: http://linuxmanpages.com/man8/fsck.8.php
[19:20] <usr13> paulus68: Thanks for that.  (I was un-aware.)
[19:20] <sammy> Aniar: but there's nothing about MTU in the man page or docs for the interface file?
[19:20] <paulus68> usr13: convert <volume>:/fs:ntfs
[19:20] <Aniar> it's not the mtu that's the problem
[19:20] <Aniar> it's the condition
[19:20] <Jordan_U> awesomeness: You need to run fsck from a LiveCD. The filesystem can't be mounted while it's being checked.
[19:20] <sammy> Aniar: connecting wirelessly?
[19:20] <Aniar> and I don't think mapping is right, because I want to use DHCP for everything
[19:20] <Aniar> sammy: no, wired interface only
[19:21] <w30> awesomeness, you better do that with it umounted or else from a live cd
[19:21] <BlueWolf> ikonia: Well I am to blame, it was doing stupid things so I decided to format it, but I did not think when I did it, I right clicked the Icon on the desktop and clicked format, Twice and now it wont show up.
[19:21] <B0g4r7> awesomeness, yes, if you suspect damage to a disk, do not boot from it or use it in any normal way until you can fix it or verify that it is OK.
[19:22] <Aniar> something like: if [`ip addr show dev eth0` = 192.168.0.x]; then ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000; else ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500; fi
[19:22] <sammy> Aniar: I dont think you can set a condition based on the ip received or the network attached to without an ssid. there's no good way for it to tell one network from the next. you could create some sort of script to be run every time dhcp gets a new address, and have it check the current IP and set the mtu
[19:22] <sammy> I believe dhcpcd has support for running post-connection scripts
[19:23] <Aniar> sammy: that's what I was expecting from reading man interfaces
[19:23] <sammy> usually used to use the information retreived from the dhcp server to run custom commands
[19:23] <Aniar> sammy: I was just hoping I was missing something
[19:23] <TheLegace> does anyone here know much about openCV
[19:23] <Aniar> sammy: hrm, I'll look at that, thanks
[19:23] <sammy> Aniar: good luck
[19:23] <TheLegace> i just wanted to know if the binary on respository has ffmpeg enabled?
[19:23] <Aniar> sammy: thanks!
[19:24] <sammy> TheLegace: which binary?
[19:24] <th0r> BlueWolf: have you tried to reset it?
[19:24] <TheLegace> libopencv
[19:24] <awesomeness> w38 Jordan_U B0g4r7 thanks all of u
[19:24] <TheLegace> for natty i guess
[19:24] <Jordan_U> awesomeness: You're welcome.
[19:24] <B0g4r7> "OpenCV (Open Source Computer Vision) is a library of programming functions for real time computer vision." -- argh...recursive definition.
[19:24] <BlueWolf> th0r: I have tryed it all. Any other suggestions?
[19:25] <th0r> BlueWolf: if you have tried it all, there are no other suggestions
[19:25] <sammy> B0g4r7: HERD and HURD! linux is all about recursive definitions and acronyms :)
[19:25] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, does the device still work normally when not connected to a computer?  What if you do "reset all" or whatever from within the device's menus?
[19:26] <sammy> TheLegace: can you be more specific about which package? maybe its in a repository I dont have enabled...
[19:26] <TheLegace> no no its installed
[19:26] <TheLegace> but the issue is i want know how it was compiled
[19:27] <sammy> TheLegace: if you can download the source version of the package I believe you can see how it is compiled
[19:27] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Well it works normally when it's not plugged into the computer. I have reset it and it does not make a difference.
[19:27] <B0g4r7> TheLegace, you can try 'ldd /path/to/the/binary' and see if it links to any ffmpeg-looking libs.
[19:28] <TheLegace> B0g4r7, sweet
[19:28] <twoten> I just got my Ubuntu Studio 11.04 working but compiz is not being activated, where's the effects dialog that says advanced effects, I thought it was inder appearance?
[19:28] <Layke2> How would I copy anything that ends in .conf from target directory to my current directory?
[19:28] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: It says it has 9.5Gb full buy when I go to the music menu it says 0 songs
[19:28] <Layke2> ie.. sudo cp /data/etc/apache/*\.conf .
[19:29] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, Yeah, you might take it to the Apple Genius Bar if there's one near you.
[19:29] <deebee_> Layke2: sudo cp /target/dir/*.conf .
[19:29] <Aniar> sammy: heh - friend reminded me about /etc/network/if-up.d/ - putting my script in there solves it.  This is the problem with looking a bit too targetted in your search sometimes, 'eh? :)
[19:30] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Do you know I there is one near me, I mean I'm in southern Africa.
[19:30] <sammy> Aniar: ah! I knew there was somewhere to run scripts at interface up and down, too :) thanks for reporting back.
[19:30] <ss0> I'm trying to install a redhat 5.2 guest in kvm, but after the initial splash screen it goes black, the guest appears to be running but doesn't respond. Is it because of ncurses or?
[19:31] <TheLegace> hmm it looks like it depends on libavcodec
[19:31] <m3talh3ad> anyone a good tutorial for ltsp?
[19:31] <faLUCE> Hi, I can't login anymore from gdm ... It let me choose the user, but it doesn't show me the password dialog. and comes back to the user choose dialog... how can I solve? It seems a serious gdm/gnome bug
[19:31] <twoten> how do I get compiz to take over from Metacity?
[19:31] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, http://www.apple.com/za/buy/locator/
[19:32] <TheLegace> ok whats the difference between libavcodec and ffmpeg
[19:32] <sammy> faLUCE: what happens when you try to log in as that user from the console, or ssh into that computer as that user?
[19:32] <ss0> The host is ubuntu 11.04
[19:32] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: it's bugging me that I can't get it to work... Let me try this site.
[19:32] <sammy> TheLegace: two completely different audio/visual codecs, I believe
[19:32] <Jordan_U> ss0: qemu/kvm doesn't use ncurses, it creates a new X window. If there are problems with ncurses on the Red Hat side then #rhel would be the place to ask about them.
[19:32] <sammy> TheLegace: they may play the same types of files but they're written differently
[19:33] <deebee_> Hi - can someone explain to me a little about how packages where optional features are available as additional packages work? I have the pdns-server package, and each of it's backends are available as pdns-backend-mysql, pdns-backend-pgsql, etc. The backend packages don't actually seem to install anything, they just reference the main pdns-server package. How does it all hang together?
[19:33] <wrektjet> hello all. I received an iPod touch and am unable to get 10.04 to recognize its prescence. Support says that 10.04 and Ipod works "out of the box" however that is clear only for version 4.0.1 and I have 4.2.1 Could this be the crucial issue?
[19:33] <TheLegace> but the h.264 codec with mkv container
[19:33] <TheLegace> would work regardless of either library
[19:33] <TheLegace> right
[19:33] <TheLegace> ok this confuses me
[19:33] <TheLegace> wiki says this
[19:34] <TheLegace> [libavcodec] Same name but incompatible libraries are provided from both FFmpeg project and Libav project.
[19:34] <TheLegace> The most notable parts of FFmpeg are libavcodec, an audio/video codec library used by several other projects
[19:34] <sammy> deebee_: you say installing the backend packages dont sem to install anything?
[19:34] <ss0> Jordan_U: I was simply making an assumption that when it switches to the ncurses bit of the installer it is failing.
[19:34] <fmauro> deebee_: this architecture ensures that functionality can be lent to other software as well, through api's, should a major package decide to fork some functionality into a separate package , the main package won't need to be installed
[19:34] <TheLegace> doesn't that contradict itself?
[19:35] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: So do you have any other suggestions?
[19:35] <Jordan_U> deebee_: The packages certainly install files, in this case .so files. "dpkg -L pdns-backend-pipe".
[19:35] <ss0> Jordan_U: Any ideas what I could check if the initial installer screen loads, but goes black after that, should i try routing it to a tty ?
[19:35] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, Not too much, other than maybe /j #ipod
[19:35] <i12> hello my people! I am trying to share a ubuntu printer on a windows network on ubuntu 11.10 anyone out there have some experience with it?
[19:35] <Jordan_U> ss0: If that's the case then it's a question for #rhel, not here.
[19:35] <sammy> TheLegace: excuse me! libavcodec is part of ffmpeg
[19:35] <TheLegace> but it says its incompatible
[19:35] <TheLegace> at the same time
[19:36] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7:  /j #ipod  ? What do you mean by this?
[19:36] <BarkingFish> Guys, silly question maybe - but I'm trying to mix packages from versions of (K)ubuntu to get the right set of what I want, and I can't seem to get lucid's pool to add on.  Anyone got any ideas on the correct deb address for lucid main's pools please?
[19:36] <TheLegace> oh okie i guess some of them are incompatible
[19:36] <TheLegace> but not all
[19:36] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, Joining an iPod channel on irc and asking there.
[19:36] <TheLegace> okie i got my answe3r
[19:36] <TheLegace> more or less
[19:36] <TheLegace> might as well jsut test
[19:36] <fmauro> !enter | TheLegace
[19:36] <ss0> Jordan_U: The only reason I asked here is I assumed it to be a problem with my output string in the ubuntu kvm package NOT an issue with the rhel image. Thanks. I guess I will play channel ping pong.
[19:37] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Do you know any like #Ubuntu?? Something like that?
[19:37] <wrektjet> excuse me regarding the ipod I just noticed that according to the libimobiledevice site it should support firmware versions thru 4.3.3. How can I check which version of libimobiledevice is running on my Disto?
[19:37] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, I hang out in #iphone in EFNet, but that's not quite the right place.  The short answer is no, I don't know of any specifically.
[19:38] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: The problem is getting it to show up in windows, how do I do that?
[19:38] <twoten> how do I switch on compiz?
[19:39] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7: Do you know how I can get it to show up in ubuntu or windows 7?
[19:39] <B0g4r7> BlueWolf, Sorry, no, I don't know.
[19:40] <Micheal`> an ipod?
[19:40] <BlueWolf> B0g4r7:Ahhhh Man!! Technology bugs me! :D Well Ok thanks for your help once again.
[19:40] <Layke2> I just accidentally removed /etc/apache2 how would I install it again?
[19:41] <Layke2> sudo apt-get install apache2 doesn't work. No errors or anything
[19:41] <BlueWolf> Micheal`: Yes do you know much about them?
[19:41] <Layke2> It just doesn't download anything.
[19:41] <Gii> Hi guys
[19:41] <foobar_> hello everyone
[19:41] <Gii> I happen to have a corrupt ext4 partition,
[19:41] <Gii> which is not being detected at all
[19:42] <Micheal`> i have played with it BlueEagle
[19:42] <Gii> Is there any way I can recover the data??
[19:42] <foobar_> my `hp-setup` for a HP printer tries to download a binary file from openprinting.org but the site is down for maintenance ... any hints where i could get the file?
[19:42] <Micheal`> BlueWolf,  even
[19:42] <twoten> I once lost a reiser drive but I was able to get it all back
[19:42] <jragon_> Hi!
[19:42] <jragon_> How can I see what GPU I've got running?
[19:42] <foobar_> the plugin.run file is not mirrored on sourceforge.net or other common sources for packages, i guess because of legal problem like with video codecs
[19:43] <tech2> Hi all, just upgraded to Oneiric and I have one package held back "update-notifier-common", apt-get -f install or dist-upgrade don't fix it, trying to install it causes it to report it will remove ubuntu-desktop, and trying to remove it says the same, any ideas?
[19:43] <Gii> jragon_: have you checked lspci?
[19:43] <BlueWolf> Micheal`: Ok well it's not appearing in both Ubuntu and Windows 7. Because I formatted it on my desktop in linux. How do I get it to show?
[19:44] <llutz> !oneiric | tech2
[19:44] <steveinatorX> hey-o
[19:44] <jragon_> Gii: It gives me a load of stuff I don't understand
[19:45] <tech2> thanks llutz
[19:45] <moes> I have a 78gb hard drive with Lucid installed..I want to resize and add another partition..Do I need to use live cd and gparted or can I do it from another distro
[19:45] <Gii> or may be you can check dmidecode jragon_
[19:45] <guntbert> Layke2: try sudo apt-get --reinstall apache2
[19:45] <tech2> llutz: sorry I missed that section of the topic :(
[19:46] <B0g4r7> moes, you can download a "gparted live" distro.  It worked well for me.
[19:47] <Layke2> reinstall isn't an option?
[19:47] <Layke2> @ guntbert
[19:47] <i12> have been trying to share a printer to a windows network, and have had no luck yet
[19:47] <i12> Samba config seems to never start on Ubuntu 11.10 :/
[19:48] <xangua> !oneiric | i12
[19:48] <qmanjr5> Is there any software (Like Nero on Windows,) that allows me to select Media Server on my PS3 and view video files from my computer?
[19:48] <BlueWolf> Micheal`: Ok well it's not appearing in both Ubuntu and Windows 7. Because I formatted it on my desktop in linux. How do I get it to show?
[19:49] <guntbert> Layke2: right, sorry, I apparently misread the man page
[19:49] <wrektjet> i installed a newer version of something via terminal. does synaptec recognize this?
[19:49] <Layke2> I'll jsut go through tasksel
[19:49] <Layke2> And see if it works.
[19:49] <Micheal`> what did you format it as BlueWolf
[19:49] <Layke2> I just didn't want to install mysql on the server.
[19:49] <xangua> wrektjet: if you mean compile, no
[19:49] <jragon_> Gii: that gives me evern more stuff I don't know
[19:49] <jragon_> I know it's a ATI Radeon
[19:50] <guntbert> Layke2: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[19:50] <zzz3> 1er
[19:50] <zzz3> clear
[19:50] <wrektjet> xamanu, it compiled itself in the terminal if my lingo is correct, and the device is now working so i know its functioning. what bis bothering me is why the newer version wasnt updated automatically as the sources are in the canonical repos
[19:50] <Layke2> guntbert, Nope. I'll just kill the server and relaunch a new instace.
[19:51] <Layke2> I'm on Amazon, and it will be quicker than trying to fix this.
[19:51] <guntbert> Layke2: :)
[19:51] <BlueWolf> Micheal`: I set it as " Compatible with all systems (FAT)
[19:52] <xamanu> wrekjet: you meant to talk with xangua not to me (xamanu) :-)
[19:52] <xangua> !latest | wrektjet
[19:52] <WLU> I change the icon in assogiate for a particular extension but it does not take an effect. Can someone tell me where I can change the icon displayed for all files with a particular extension
[19:52] <wrektjet> xangua, i got it straightened out. i did download a completely stable version so its cool
[19:53] <dougl> Ihave issuees... cannot grab the title bar and move windows on my ubuntu 11.04
 seriously impeding my ability to work - please help?\
[19:53] <galerien> Hi, I when I go to the "proprietary drivers" in ubuntu, it shows a (version current) nvidia driver and a (post-release updates), si the post release update stable or just testing please ?
[19:53] <BlueWolf> Micheal`: And I did it twice
[19:54] <w30> WLU, probably somewhere in your /home/.themes directories
[19:55] <Jordan_U> dougl: Try pressing "alt+F2" then running "unity --replace". If that doesn't work then try "unity --reset" and if that also fails try "metacity --replace".
[19:56] <WLU> w30: I tried .themes, .icons with no luck I even changed it in assogiate and still no luck.
[19:57] <BlueWolf> Micheal`: So any suggestions?
[19:57] <dougl> Jordan_U, thansks
[19:58] <Jordan_U> dougl: You're welcome. Did it fix things?
[19:59] <moes> To resize Ubuntu do I have to use live cd or can I use gparted from another distro
[19:59] <galerien> moes : any gparted you want
[19:59] <moes> thanks
[19:59] <galerien> moes : just a recent one, with ext4 supported
[20:00] <moes> galerien, Yes I have the latest version on ext 4
[20:01] <Micheal`> yeah
[20:01] <galerien> moes : then go for it
[20:01] <Micheal`> BlueWolf, hook it up to a windows box with itunes and have it reformat it then use it like that
[20:01] <Micheal`> or even a vm BlueWolf
[20:02] <Odaym> I followed this link to install Java on my Ubuntu, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-using-ppa.html
[20:02] <Odaym> did I just get JRE and NOT JDK?
[20:03] <whmpoly> JRE is java runtime environment
[20:03] <Odaym> alright, what I need is openjdk-6-jdk, right?
[20:03] <wrektjet> QUICK QUESTION WHAT IS THE EASY WAY TO MAKE A FOLDER SHOW THE TEXTUAL PATH instead of the icon flow? srry about caps
[20:03] <whmpoly> JDK is java development kit
[20:04] <BlueWolf> Micheal`: I would but I can't get it to show up, when I plug it in, it won't show up in my computer. So what do I do?
[20:05] <wxl> hey folks.. i'm suffering under this issue with choose-mirror in ubiquity.. is there some easy way i can solve this outside of waiting for the fix to be packaged into a new release? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/756719
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> wxl: disconnect the LAN during install
[20:05] <wxl> ok i tried disconnecting before but not during
[20:06] <wxl> let me give it a shot ActionParsnip
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> wxl: or stop the network service
[20:07] <user1> hibernation problems in natty : how long is it going to take.
[20:07] <user1> 11.10 is goingto come
[20:07] <antnash> Anyone know if it would be faster to boot from an SD card or a 5400RPM drive?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> antnash: the 5400RPM will be waaay faster
[20:08] <antnash> really? thought the seek time would make a big diff
[20:08] <joker_hs> Guys I am looking for a python package that will allow me to visualize weighted graphs. I spent last many hours experimenting with pygraphviz, igraph and other utilities. Either I couldn't understand how to plot weighted graphs with them or they don't support. I am using pygraph package to create and manipulate my graphs. TIA.
[20:09] <dougl> Jordan_U, metacity helped me hobble along = thanks
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> antnash: class 6 is 6Mb/s    5400rpm drive is 3Gb/sec
[20:10] <antnash> I get that, but the seek time for the SD card is a tiny fraction of that for the HSS
[20:10] <antnash> HDD
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> antnash: try it. I'd rather the 5400rpm drive
[20:12] <iridium> antnash, I tried the same hdd is way faster
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> antnash: http://club.myce.com/f7/sd-flash-memory-ide-adapter-vs-hdd-242910/
[20:13] <iridium> about 45 seconds vs 3~4 minutes
[20:13] <yacc> Ok, what can make a HDD return corrupted data (potentially write corrupted data)? SATA should be checksum protected, the disc does not claim any errors (and it does have ECC), so what can it be?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> antnash: compare booting SD card to live install environment compared to an installed OS
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> yacc: bad ram possibly...
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> iam unable to make a bootable usb drive with unetbootin, the ubuntu tool would like me to erase the entire disk, instead of just 1st partition, what should i do?
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> its a wd drive
[20:15] <yacc> So how does one today test that? Still make clean ; make bzImage in an endless loop?
[20:15] <antnash> well that sorts that out. Cheers ActionParsnip and iridium
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: use gparted to wipe the partitions
[20:15] <fVckingmania> good afternoon, hwo can I know the size of a file in the shell??
[20:15] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip, i did
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> yacc: hold shift at boot, select memtest from grub
[20:15] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip, i mean, the 2nd partition is something id like to keep
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: unetbootin lets you use just one partition, the bottom most option lets you specify the partition
[20:16] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip, right, but at boot time i get that no operating system was found
[20:17] <matyy> Hey does someone know a program that forces the user to take a break after a specified period of time? Exactly like you can set it in the gnome keyboard settings, just without them?
[20:17] <matyy> I mean, without the gnome keyboard settings
[20:19] <fVckingmania> good afternoon, hwo can I know the size of a file in the shell??
[20:19] <yacc> ActionParsnip, no memory errors for a couple of hours, but then testing 8GB RAM completely, potentially to some pattern specific problem, ...
[20:19] <regiov> hi, I'm trying to finish a broken dist-upgrade procedure (from karmic to lucid) using "apt-get install -f", but I'm getting "Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (1) on udev". Any ideas on how to solve this? thanks in advance
[20:21] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip, copy the 2nd partition to some net drive and let the ubuntu tool do disk erase?
[20:21] <girasquid> I'm having apt-get problems on jaunty - this is what happens when I run `sudo apt-get install ruby1.8-dev -y`: http://pastie.org/private/nzpxzw0zt3a1prdxeurddq
[20:21] <guntbert> !repeat | fVckingmania and please change your nick
[20:21] <bambanx> how i can mount sd card
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: possibly, worth a try.
[20:22] <user1> 11.10 is goingto come
[20:22] <user1> hibernation problems in natty : how long is it going to take.
[20:22] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip, ok, thanks
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> user1: are you running natty or oneiric?
[20:22] <Mati89> by the way natty gave me much of headache to be honest
[20:23] <jasef> So... ALT+F2 is supposed to bring up a dialog asking for a command line to run, right? Mine isn't working :(
[20:23] <Mati89> i hardly recommend to use 10.04 LTS if you're looking for true stability
[20:23] <user1> ActionParsnip :natty
[20:23] <newman> Hi. Is it somehow possible to check if a swap partition is working? I'm trying to install natty on a laptop with encrypted home and swap. Home works(I guess?) as I can login and work with things, but not the swap. Hibernation does not work, when I start the computer again afterwards I get the login screen no matter what, free -m says 0 used space on swap, quick check with dmesg reveals nothing eit
[20:23] <DustyMonk> user1: type /j #ubuntu+1
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> user1: so why say "user1: 11.10 is goingto come"    how is it relevant?
[20:23] <DustyMonk> newman: type free -m
[20:24] <user1> ActionParsnip : since its still not resolved. everyday i have to shutdown 101 programs and restart next day
[20:24] <newman> DustyMonk: Well.. That's what I did ;-j.. And again, 0 used space on swap partition.
[20:24] <DustyMonk> newman: that's good
[20:24] <sinergia> Hello there, how do I forward a connection comming to my server on its ip on port 22, to an ip address on the local network?
[20:24] <templet> i need to add my home directory to automount on boot.  i guess i forgot to add that.  can anyone point me to a url ?
[20:24] <user1> ActionParsnip : yes its kind of oneiric - nightmarish one.
[20:24] <yacc> ActionParsnip, https://gist.github.com/1265577 <= could you take a look, so far as I see, some errors get repeated, some disappear, some other pop up (on the second run), so corruption would be happening during reading and writing or on the hdd, sounds like memory to me :(
[20:25] <yacc> So we are back to kernel compiling, ....
[20:25] <DustyMonk> newman: i disabled swap, by typing swapoff -a
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> user1: how is oneiric relevant if you say you are using natty?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> user1: you said a lot but didn't answer my question...
[20:25] <newman> DustyMonk: It is 0_0? You mean I have enough memory for working? But shouldn't it at least contain *something*? From when I tried to hibernate I mean..
[20:25] <wrektjet> how can one change the "location bar" in nautilus to display the text version
[20:25] <user1> ActionParsnip : what q. i am using natty. oneiric - isnt it related to dreams
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> yacc: i've never used git, so the page is meaningless to me
[20:26] <newman> DustyMonk: Are you saying I should swap on?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> user1: so why mention it earlier if it isn't related, it just confuses things
[20:26] <DustyMonk> newman: i don't use hibernation, so can't say, for me, i don't need swap
[20:26] <user1> ActionParsnip : ok solution for natty? do you have?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> user1: what make and model is the system (if it has one), there is no single answer. It is reliant purely on the exact system you have
[20:27] <pitlimit> I accientally eleted some crucial files on my system - can anyone tell me how I can use the install cd to fix ubuntu?
[20:27] <user1> ActionParsnip : asus 1215B netbook
[20:27] <sinergia> How do I forward a connection comming to my machine on port 22, to another machine on port 22?
[20:27] <newman> DustyMonk: Ok, fair enough. Swapon -a gave me this though: "swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: open failed: Access denied". I'll check some permissions now I guess(?).
[20:27] <zmbmartin> any vmware player users in here? how is it compared to virtualbox?
[20:28] <DustyMonk> pitlimit: try testdisk, it's a recovery tool in Terminal
[20:28] <pitlimit> DustyMonk: it does not even boot
[20:28] <DustyMonk> newman: try sudo in front
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> user1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/860534
[20:29] <sidd_mak> is there any application like shazam for ubuntu ?
[20:29] <DustyMonk> sidd_mak: what does shazam do?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> user1: ensure you have the latest BIOS too
[20:30] <newman> DustyMonk: *facepalm* Good point. Different error message with that: swapon: "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: swapon failed: Device or resource busy"
[20:30] <pitlimit> can anyone help me to recover my system? can i do it with an install cd?
[20:30] <yacc> ActionParsnip, it's not git => it's a pastebinit => it shows the output that compares the md5sum of some files (dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1024k count=1| tee $NAME | md5sum - | sed "replace the - with $NAME" >>checkfiles.log) => md5sum --check checks these files, and I noticed, that while certain 1MB blocks are fail in both runs, some show up only in the 1st or 2nd run. So my conclusion is that some errors are happening while reading, some stuff has happened whi
[20:30] <yacc> le writing.
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> sidd_mak: http://www.redditgadgetguide.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/cgmh3/is_there_a_audio_recognition_program_like_shazam/
[20:31] <sidd_mak> it records the music and then search down the artist,name,album of that music<DustyMonk>
[20:31] <yacc> ActionParsnip, the only difference is that pygist creates also a git repo of any pasted text.
[20:32] <yacc> But you can safely ignore the clone urls and other esoteric stuff.
[20:32] <pitlimit> surely there must be a way!
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> yacc: is it a SATA HDD?
[20:32] <user1> ActionParsnip : so when the bug is going to get resolved?
[20:32] <yacc> I'm just trying to abuse as a sounding board to see if my thoughts make sense, ..
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> pitlimit: could copy the files from the liveCD, its messy but may help
[20:33] <linty> question: if i create a wireless network with network manager will it automatically assign other machines ip's via dhcp? also is there a way to hide my ssid? i couldn't find one
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> user1: keep youor eye on it, then wait and see. Do you have the latest BIOS?
[20:33] <yacc> SATA hdd, new (yesterday bought and installed), everything 100% fine in SMART, LUKS PV on the disc to be exact, but the LV the torrents are on maps to only the new hdd.
[20:33] <user1> ActionParsnip : yes
[20:33] <pitlimit> ActionParsnip: can i run something form command line?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> yacc: try the SATA in IDE mode, may help
[20:33] <yacc> ActionParsnip, so theoretically the SATA transfer and the on-disc storage should be checksum protected.
[20:34] <wxl> linty: as a general rule you're not going to find ip stealing going on.. not until the other machine is turned off and thus the ip released. check your wap's settings to hide your ssid
[20:34] <yacc> ActionParsnip, is that a safe thing to do if I've formated all my drives in AHCI mode and I've got 2x2TB discs in the box. (Plus 1.5TB Plus Intel 120GB SSD)
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> pitlimit: you could use diff somehow, I suggest you just restore the data removed, then rerun uppdates. You will be using some VERY old files so I suggest you use the daily build.Eventually, updates will put the files right and all will be well
[20:35] <pitlimit> ok
[20:36] <pitlimit> i'm gonna try to do a boot repair
[20:36] <pitlimit> maybe that will work
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> yacc: sure, it just changes how the interface acts, will be fine
[20:36] <yacc> Next observation: It does happen also on the SSD, but the MB/error count is much higher, which would suggest a constant (or slower rate) error rate.
[20:37] <yacc> Ok, gonna reboot and fool around in the BIOS.
[20:37] <yacc> bbiam
[20:37] <newman> How do I proceed with this? "sudo fdisk -l | grep swap" gives me "Disk /dev/dm-0 does not contain a valid partition table"
[20:38] <DustyMonk> newman: type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste it here
[20:38] <Jordan_U> newman: I believe that hibernation is currently known not to work with encrypted swap.
[20:39] <DustyMonk> encrypted swap, i missed that part
[20:40] <DustyMonk> is dm-0 the name of something encrypted?
[20:40] <newman> DustyMonk & Jordan_U : Are you sure?
[20:40] <jasef> Oh cool. I fixed alt+f2 not working
[20:40] <newman> DustyMonk: My swap is encrypted, so I guess so yes.
[20:42] <Jordan_U> netsurf3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432785
[20:42] <Jordan_U> newman: ^^
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> encryptfs is so not worth it
[20:44] <yacc> ActionParsnip, explain?
[20:45] <yacc> ActionParsnip, and if not encryptfs, what is the recommended way to handle encryption on a SSD?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> yacc: issues with hibernation, if you have a separate /home partition and are reinstalling there is a lot of messing around wheras straight data will simply be usable with zero effort
[20:46] <wrektjet> is there a channel for ipod related issues bec. ive worked through every package and detail in libimobiledevice and ifuse and my ipod was recognized by nautilus once, not by gtkpod or rhythmbox, and now not even nautilus and im out of ideas. running ifuse <mountpoint> returns no device found
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> I have no idea about encryption on SSDs, I tried it once and it took me an age to get my data so I just wiped clean and went with straight data
[20:46] <yacc> ActionParsnip, encryptfs is not a seperate /home partition.
[20:46] <xangua> wrektjet: what iOS version¿
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> yacc: seen too many users in here asking about encyptfs and have nearly lost data
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> yacc: Im fully awarewhat encryptfs is dude. but users WITH seperate home partitions USING encryptfs have issue
[20:48] <wrektjet> xangua, 4.2.1 and libimobiledevice version 1.0.6 i installed says it supports up to 4.3.3
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> !away > syadamin|away
[20:48] <yacc> ActionParsnip, and having straight data is not a good idea (I admit I never used hibernation on my laptop when traveling), personal experience has shown me how critical not having unencrypted data on any laptop/PC is.
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> yacc: never had an issue in the many years Ive been working in IT.
[20:50] <yacc> ActionParsnip, actually had to sign for that property at least in one NDA ;)
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> yacc: the only encryption I do is of data backups for customers
[20:51] <v4nelle> guys,my ubuntu 10.10 cant mount dvd movies
[20:51] <v4nelle> why?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> v4nelle: you don't mount DVD movies
[20:52] <v4nelle> ActionParsnip, i try to find an alternative way to view the dvd movie
[20:52] <v4nelle> because vlc and mplayer cant play it
[20:52] <v4nelle> :)
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> v4nelle: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libdvdread4; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh; sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> v4nelle: it won't unless you install the libdvdread4 package...
[20:53] <v4nelle> ActionParsnip, i have already done this but nothing
[20:53] <v4nelle> i will try again
[20:54] <newman> Jordan_U & DustyMonk: Sigh =[ Rules it out for me then. Hope I can remove the swap encryption without too much hazzle. Big thanks for helping anyways.
[20:54] <dougl> Jordan_U... thanks for your help...managed to get window decorations and ability to move windows but fix only lasts a long as the terminal window is open
[20:54] <KinkyPinkie> hey! anyone got any experience with the http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer ? my pc won't boot from usb drive
[20:54] <dougl> Jordan_U... thanks for your help...managed to get window decorations and ability to move windows but fix only lasts a long as the terminal window is open - with metacity -- replace
[20:54] <yacc> OTOH, I had exactly three problems with disc-level encryption 1) was pre LUKS, remembering all the encryption details was a PITA, especially when upgrading 2) I managed to nuke a LUKS PV by mistake, well nuking a device because you mistyped can happen without LUKS too, recovery is just way harder (without LUKS I might have been able to fake a PV header and would have lost perhaps a couple of GB data at worst, not 1.5TB) and 3) LUKS is not exactly SSD compat
[20:54] <yacc> ible (SSD like TRIM commands, TRIM commands would show which parts of the LUKS container contain data)
[20:55] <v4nelle> ActionParsnip, nothing again....
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> KinkyPinkie: install magicdisk and download the full ubuntu desktop ISO, MD5 test the ISO and mount the ISO in the virtual drive. Run wubi from there and it should be ok
[20:56] <yacc> encryptfs OTOH has at least one known PLAIN text attack, at least against the name encryption part. (Well, there aren't that many sockets in a normal users home directory)
[20:57] <yacc> So in my case I've find to encrypted files that happen to be a socket. At least one of these is named .gvfs.
[20:58] <neodragon> hello I just install 11.04 and it is not recognizing he sound card on my motherboard: VIA chipset, AMD Athlong 64 CPU, AC97 soundcard any help would be appreciated?
[20:58] <KinkyPinkie> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll give it a try
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> neodragon: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[20:59] <neodragon> gromhellscream
[20:59] <neodragon> crap
[20:59] <neodragon> brb
[21:00] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[21:00] <Jordan_U> dougl: "metacity --replace & disown"
[21:01] <Shwaiil> Q: To get help on terminal, I can use "man command", right ? Let's say I wanted to "ls *" but I didnt knew "ls" command existed ? Is there a way to find about commands on terminal ? somehow ? Thank you!
[21:01] <grkblood13> black screen of death!!!!!
[21:01] <Jordan_U> dougl: Have you tried logging out and back in again? If so did that bring back window decorations?
[21:01] <grkblood13> brand new laptop, rebooted it, black screen
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> grkblood13: which gpu?
[21:02] <yacc> ActionParsnip, thx, first experiments (with the SSD) suggest that IDE mode really really helps.
[21:02] <grkblood13> radeon
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> yacc: ;)
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | grkblood13
[21:03] <grkblood13> its was working forl ike 2 days
[21:03] <dougl> Jordan_U, yes loggin out and back in resolves the issues but the replace/disown is more desireable = thanks for the info
[21:03] <Jordan_U> dougl: You're welcome.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> grkblood13: could try pressing CTRL+ALT+F1  and if you can log in there, run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:03] <lmao24> Last time I tried ubuntu was 5 years a go, I tried it agian and nothing as improved!
[21:03] <grkblood13> oh, believe me
[21:03] <grkblood13> ive tried that
[21:04] <lmao24> Wireless still does't work out of the box so it' pretty pointless.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> grkblood13: what change happened to cause the issue?
[21:04] <lmao24> the installation frooze on me during the keyboard settings...
[21:04] <xangua> lmao24: do you have a support question¿ the complain channel is #foreveralone ;)
[21:04] <urlin2u> lmao24, you want or you going to rant?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> yacc: when you've used Linux for a while, you start knowing little things like that
[21:04] <Willis420> my wireless worked out the box
[21:04] <grkblood13> last thing i did in a gui was a added a conky startup script
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> grkblood13: which release do you have installed?
[21:05] <grkblood13> si11.04
[21:05] <grkblood13> 11.04 64-bit
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> grkblood13: hold shift at boot, can you boot to an older kernel?
[21:06] <cheako> Hello, can any one give me some example servers that have XMPP rooms?
[21:07] <grkblood13> ok, im in single user mode now
[21:07] <yacc> ActionParsnip, don't think that you've used it as long as me, but you probably used it on more, newer hardware. :) (This box is technically the first box that even has SATA for me :) )
[21:07] <cheako> conference.jabber.org
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> yacc: started in 2001 with Mandrake 7
[21:08] <xMopx> How do I prevent logrotate from rotating logs that aren't meeting the "size 100M" requirement in my config file?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> yacc: all my hardware is from around that time too
[21:08] <yacc> ActionParsnip, SLS in December 1992, Kernel 0.96x, although I don't remember the letter after 0.96 anymore.
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> yacc: wow, nice
[21:09]  * ActionParsnip bows low
[21:09] <Shwaiil> Q: To get help on terminal, I can use "man command", right ? Let's say I wanted to "ls *" but I didnt knew "ls" command existed ? Is there a way to find about commands on terminal ? somehow ? Thank you!
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> yacc: Similarly Ian Murdock's frustration with SLS led him to create the Debian project ;)
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> yacc: was xorg around at that time?
[21:11] <yacc> ActionParsnip, some nice colleague even visited me at home with his set of floppies, so I don't monopolize the only open Internet workstation at the Technical University here around => especially as it was an old NeXT box, with a very very faulty floppy driver, hence crashing around 50% times when I tried to copy the stuff to floppy => making it take even longer.
[21:12] <sinergia> How do I forward a connection comming to my machine on port 22, to another machine on port 22?
[21:12] <neodragon> ActionParsnip: see http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7e99b10777f96523fff6cf7a82be339e89d43ea7
[21:12] <yacc> ActionParsnip, well it was XFree86 or so then, big monolithic thing, but I have to admit, that I lived the first couple of years with text mode, using X only when absolutely necessary (640x480x4 sucks at best). So editing tex files in emacs on console, processing, and xdvi on the X server.
[21:13] <pitlimit> I cannot boot into my Ubuntu - is there any way I can go in and get data off my hard drive?
[21:14] <yacc> ActionParsnip, I've noticed that I'm getting adult when I started to expect the distribution to provide a working binary kernel, ...
[21:14] <delac> what should I put in themes gtkrc to remove the "unnecessary" line between menubar and tabbar in firefox?   http://imagebin.org/177557
[21:14] <yacc> pitlimit, boot the recovery mode on the live cd
[21:14] <pitlimit> yacc, if i boot from the cd, it oesn't give me a recovery mode option
[21:15] <yacc> ActionParsnip, so what did I loose with IDE mode? NCQ but that doesn't seem to make much of a difference, ...
[21:15] <yacc> pitlimit, if you want only to copy data, "Try Ubuntu" is enough for that purpose.
[21:15] <pippo> hi all
[21:15] <pitlimit> yacc shouln't that data be protecte?
[21:16] <ePlus> hey all
[21:16] <ePlus> i'm pretty annoyed and puzzled....
[21:16] <pitlimit> anyway it won't even boot to the cd
[21:16] <pitlimit> I installed boot repair and now it goes directly to the hard drive
[21:16] <yacc> pitlimit, did you select home directory encryption, or did you use the alternate install CD to create a LUKS container (probably not, but sometimes one can guess wrong)?
[21:16] <pitlimit> no yacc
[21:16] <ePlus> just installed ubuntu 11.04... all good... BUT it detects my wireless USB dongle, but is unable to connect?
[21:16] <pitlimit> I cannot get the disk to booat at all
[21:16] <yacc> pitlimit, well, then you have a BIOS problem.
[21:17] <pitlimit> ooops I took it out :)
[21:17] <yacc> pitlimit, you need to select boot device (my AMI BIOS has this on F11) or change the boot priority inside the BIOS setup.
[21:17] <neodragon> ActionParsnip: see http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7e99b10777f96523fff6cf7a82be339e89d43ea7
[21:17] <pitlimit> thanks yacc
[21:17] <pitlimit> It helps if you insert the c you took out
[21:18] <yacc> pitlimit, I always check myself if the power is connected first, can happen even to somebody doing that for decades, ...
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> ePlus: what network chip does it use?
[21:18] <pitlimit> :)
[21:19] <pitlimit> yacc: i thought I would completely uninstall vmware and deleted every file and folder name vmware and the folder's subcontents
[21:19] <yacc> ePlus, lsusb output of the dongle (vendor/device id)
[21:19] <pitlimit> Now my system won't boot
[21:19] <yacc> How did you uninstall VMware?
[21:19] <pitlimit> yacc I could not find an uninstall script
[21:19] <pitlimit> so i just deleted in teh way i describe
[21:19] <pitlimit> d
[21:20] <pitlimit> what a disaster though
[21:20] <yacc> pitlimit, VMware provides a deb package for Ubuntu/Debian, I'm almost certainly sure of that, then you can just deinstall it from the software center.
[21:20] <ePlus> yacc, even though ubuntu recognices the dongle - i get a list of available wireless networks
[21:20] <pitlimit> yacc I did not install it that way though
[21:20] <pitlimit> I installed it from source
[21:20] <android> any linux based operatingsystem that can discover and install my realtec wifi CARD ???
[21:21] <yacc> pitlimit, VMware does not provide source.
[21:21] <yacc> ActionParsnip, so tell me your experiences with AHCI, *grrrrrrrrrr*
[21:22] <yacc> ActionParsnip, the IDE mode can be considered as having healed the situation (I managed 4 GB write/check on the SSD and 4GB write/read on the HDD without any errors).
[21:22] <pitlimit> yacc I'm in here now... how do i access my ata?
[21:22] <pitlimit> data
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> yacc: never had an issue with anything in Linux. My hardware is always super compatible as I buy it so it is as such. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart
[21:22] <yacc> Well, you open a terminal.
[21:22] <yacc> Type sudo -i to get root.
[21:22] <neodragon> nevermind I had the inter audio device turned off in the BIOS ActionParsnip  all is working now
[21:23] <pitlimit> k
[21:23] <yacc> ActionParsnip, you know if the Try Ubuntu thing detects the harddisc partitions and puts them on the desktop?
[21:23] <Jordan_U> yacc: You should not need to switch to IDE mode, if you do please file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug linux".
[21:23] <pitlimit> and now where do i go? an thank you yacc
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> yacc: yeah I know what you mean
[21:23] <netzsooc_> I am using a hpG62 which usally heats until the point that it produces thermal shutdown, but with natty is working ok, how is this possible?
[21:23] <pitlimit> kinda... deseparate
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> yacc: i believe it puts them on the desktop when they are mounted
[21:24] <yacc> ActionParsnip, well, I try that too, but sometimes you get hardware that seems not to be 100% compatible although nobody noticed before.
[21:24] <yacc> pitlimit, now you need to list your partitions.
[21:24] <yacc> pitlimit, /dev/sda is your "first" disk.
[21:25] <yacc> pitlimit, fdisk -l /dev/sda should list the partitions.
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> yacc: i reseach before purchase :)
[21:25] <pitlimit> yes! there it is!
[21:25] <pitlimit> how do I access it?
[21:25] <yacc> Pure guess but /dev/sda2 or /dev/sda5 will be your / (root) partition.
[21:26] <pitlimit> sda1 is it!
[21:26] <yacc> pitlimit, mkdir /media/myroot ; mount /dev/sda1 /media/myroot
[21:26] <pitlimit> do i have to mount it
[21:27] <pitlimit> yacc:  this is wonderful and terrible all at the same time!
[21:27] <pitlimit> some hacker can just get my data like this!
[21:27] <pitlimit> all someone has to do is sit down at my computer with an install disk!
[21:27] <yacc> pitlimit, /dev/sda1 might be your /boot partition, but I'm not sure if Ubuntu creates that nowadays by default => it's an old tradition => it's just an example of how much I was in hurry that I did not create /var, /usr and /home as seperate filesystems, ...
[21:27] <yacc> pitlimit, that's the same for all OSes.
[21:27] <pitlimit> yacc how do i encrypt my drive
[21:27] <pitlimit> this is terrible
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> pitlimit: yes, physical access gets around most stuff
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> pitlimit: same with windows
[21:28] <yacc> pitlimit, if the data is not encrypted, the data is trivially to access. (Even encrypted somebody that has physical access could trojan the process that asks for the passphrase)
[21:28] <pitlimit> yacc can you refer me to a good encryption site?
[21:28] <pitlimit> instruction site
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> pitlimit: you can even get boot disks to reset the windows admin password so you can login to the account
[21:29] <yacc> pitlimit, google Ubuntu encryption => Ubuntu can do two different things encryption-wise.
[21:29] <pitlimit> wow
[21:29] <pitlimit> yacc i am thinking an encrypted folder? probably not good to have the entire thing encrypted
[21:29] <yacc> ActionParsnip, and if you are sneaky, you reset the password back to the old value.
[21:29] <yacc> pitlimit, encryptfs => can be used to encrypt e.g. your home directory.
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> yacc: here
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> *hehe
[21:30] <yacc> pitlimit, LUKS encrypts complete blockdevices, e.g. partitions of disc => the traditional thing to do is to put LVM on top of LUKS so you get flexible volume management, ...
[21:30] <lfender> how come ubuntu room is the only room that works on my xchat program
[21:31] <io> lfender: what other channels are you trying to join?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> lfender: try:   /j #kubuntu
[21:31] <yacc> lfender, type /j #android => you get another channel (it's not called room on IRC)
[21:31] <pitlimit> yacc is there just a quick way?
[21:31] <jeinor> \join #ubuntu+1
[21:31] <pitlimit> like install a program and it does it for you
[21:31] <jeinor> oh noes
[21:31] <jeinor> :P
[21:31] <pitlimit> and btw, yacc THANK YOU. i'm so relieved i got to my data
[21:32] <yacc> pitlimit, well, you can enable encrypting your home directory after installation I think, you need to google around for the exact instruction.
[21:32] <daveycakes> hi all :) just installed ubuntu on my HP laptop. even when i disable the track pad the mouse jumps around, cant seem to fix it. any ideas?
[21:32] <knxv> Hi guys.. I have a problem.. Firefox wont play videos, it will only download them, how can I fix this?
[21:32] <pitlimit> does ubuntu do it for me, yacc or i need to do something else
[21:32] <pitlimit> does it give me that option?
[21:32] <deebee_> lfender: are you sure you're not just joining quiet channels where no one is talking? The ubuntu channel is pretty busy compared to many others
[21:33] <io> deebee_: it is the largest channel, not the bussiest
[21:33] <machine2> hi
[21:33] <yacc> pitlimit during installation it gaves you the option to choose "login without password, login with password, login with password and encrypt my home directory)
[21:34] <io> s/bussiest/busiest
[21:34] <pitlimit> yacc and do you think that is sufficient?
[21:34] <machine2> how long will it take me to set up a basic LAMP configuration for a website?
[21:34] <daveycakes> just installed ubuntu on my HP laptop. even when i disable the track pad the mouse jumps around, cant seem to fix it. any ideas?
[21:35] <KrazyKrivda> When I hibernate in ubuntu, if I have made changes to mounted partitions or drives, it doesn't seem to update changes (files are not visible on windows until I actually shut down ubuntu).  How can i fix?
[21:35] <jrib> machine2: the length of time it takes you to press space bar and enter at the task selection screen during install?
[21:35] <yacc> pitlimit, well yes, it makes it easier to use a baseball thingie on your physical body till you utter your passphrase the easier way than just trying to recover your data via technical means.
[21:35] <deebee_> io: what's your point? this channel is busy compared to many others, which are much quieter. That's all that's relevant here
[21:35] <pitlimit> :)
[21:35] <pitlimit> what kind of encryption is it?
[21:35] <machine2> jrib: is it that easy?
[21:35] <lfender> i realy dont know im still new to all this so i dont know much on the lingo
[21:35] <io> deebee_: my point is what I said. it's larger, not busier
[21:35] <yacc> Ok, I'm off.
[21:35] <deebee_> lfender: everyone starts somewhere :)
[21:36] <jrib> machine2: yep.  If you want to do it after install you just run tasksel and again just select LAMP (see ubottu)
[21:36] <merraton> wonder if you can help me, I have low end laptop - p3 800MHz, 256ram and 6GB hdd, got the newest ubuntu distr but can install it, process stops after the screen when you choose wether to use internet during installation, the cursor is moving, but nothing more
[21:36] <jrib> !lamp | machine2
[21:36] <machine2> jrib: i only have set up one server before and that was on slicehost.. it was debian
[21:36] <merraton> i left the lap for the night but it didnt go any further
[21:36] <machine2> but i used all the walkthru cut and paste
[21:36] <Shwaiil> Q: Is there a such a thing like XAMPP / WAMP or MAMP for Ubuntu ? I know about the term LAMP, but there's no shell for it. Any comments ? Thank you!
[21:36] <lfender> ya i realy just jump to ubuntu with out any info on it
[21:36] <jrib> Shwaiil: what do you mean by "there's no shell for it"
[21:37] <merraton> managed to install debian, but it's just black magic for me
[21:37] <io> !xampp | Shwaiil
[21:37] <machine2> jrib: should i use ubuntu for this, is it easier than debian?
[21:37] <levu_> Hi, i'm affected by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/694087 how can i change the evdev behaviour?
[21:37] <deebee_> io: and how's that relevant to lfender? He may have joined a quiet channel where no one had spoken, hence this is bussier. Who cares whether it's the largest?
[21:37] <jrib> machine2: difficulty is equal
[21:38] <delac> how can I use gtkrc style only for Firefox app?  "widget_class "*Firefox*" style "firefox"" does not seem to work...
[21:38] <qin> KrazyKrivda: Do you hibernate Ubuntu and booting M4?
[21:38] <qin> *m$
[21:38] <Shwaiil> jrgp, hi! A graphic interface to access common commands
[21:38] <io> deebee_: yes, may
[21:38] <Shwaiil> I ment
[21:38] <deebee_> deebee_: very odd and pretty pointless correction to make
[21:38] <jrib> Shwaiil: like?
[21:38] <KrazyKrivda> qin: not sure?  I have an icon I click (part of CairoDock) to hibernate
[21:38] <knxv> How do I make firefox play .wmv files?
[21:39] <Shwaiil> jrib, stop apache or restart
[21:39] <lfender> so can any one answer how ubuntu and windows are diff thay omost look alike
[21:39] <jrib> Shwaiil: that's just « sudo service apache2 start » or « sudo service apache2 stop » in your terminal
[21:39] <machine2> jrib: if i use Wubi, on a vista machine, will i have the same experience as a clean install ?
[21:40] <jrib> machine2: yes.  There may be a slight performance hit however.  Personally, I do not recommend wubi
[21:40] <Geo_M> Do you think you could give me an insight as to why add-apt-repository or  aptitude install don't seem to work on my ubuntu vps
[21:40] <Geo_M> Please, thanks :)
[21:40] <daveycakes> just installed ubuntu on my HP laptop. even when i disable the track pad the mouse jumps around, cant seem to fix it. any ideas?
[21:40] <deebee_> lfender: they're different in all sorts of ways. Too many to list. One is free for a start :)
[21:40] <jrib> Geo_M: you must be more detailed why you say "don't seem to work".  Pastebin commands and full output
[21:40] <Shwaiil> jrib, ok but, if u dont know the command or you're not woste to CLI,, it's not that simple. I would like to know if there's a GUI for LAMP on ubuntu. Would make life much easier when working with diferent people now woste to linux
[21:40] <jrib> s/why/when
[21:41] <jrib> Shwaiil: that's the command for starting and stopping services :)  What else do you need to do?
[21:41] <machine2> jrib: any reason why not wubi? i dont mind the performance hit, because it will be quite a hassle for me to completely format the machine
[21:41] <koleary> \quit
[21:41] <lfender> thats true im seen lots of videos on ubuntu i seem to like it
[21:42] <deebee_> lfender: wikipedia is your friend when it comes to the basics
[21:42] <[poisonborz]> I want to set up Samba so that it would use Ubuntu users/restrictions instead of its own smbpasswd-created users...is this possible?
[21:42] <Kre10s> trying to install Cinelerra... the package is not in synaptic. how can i install it?
[21:42] <jrib> machine2: read the warnings on wubi's website.  I just don't see the benefit of wubi. Creating a separate partition is not a difficult thing to do imo
[21:43] <KrazyKrivda> qin how can I determine this?
[21:43] <machine2> actually what about kubuntu
[21:43] <machine2> jrib: yeah but i guess the reason is trying not to mess with the master boot record
[21:44] <jrib> machine2: ubuntu and kubuntu share the same repositories but have a different set of packages (one features the unity environment and the other features kde)
[21:44] <jrib> machine2: meh
[21:44] <qin> KrazyKrivda: Try: sudo updatedb (not sure will it help with files on m$ partition)
[21:44] <cheako> Hello, given Ubuntu stance on [1]Upstream bugtrackers...  Why does apport only file bugs in launchpad?  1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream
[21:44] <Hot2Trot> is there someway I can restart my computer and tell it which partition to reboot into?
[21:45] <machine2> jrib: so for someone who has just a tiny bit of ssh experience and mostly uses windows machines, should i use kubuntu?
[21:45] <cheako> Shouldn't apport be the only tool end-users need to use in-order to properly file bug reports?
[21:45] <jrib> machine2: if you like kde, sure.  You can have multiple enironments.  It's trivial to setup (just install ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu and you will have additional session options at the login screen)
[21:45] <Geo_M> jrib, http://pastebin.com/TGxeZb3V  thanks
[21:46] <machine2> i really dont know if i like kde or not.
[21:46] <KrazyKrivda> qin: the issue is.. say I am working in docs in ubuntu (on mounted partition) They are saved in Ubuntu just fine.. I hibernate Ubuntu and open windows.  Windows does not see these edited and created files.  However if I shut down Ubuntu THEN open windows they are there.
[21:46] <io> machine2: give it a go, if it doesn't work out then switch environments :-)
[21:46] <machine2> can you tell me if i should like kde?
[21:46] <io> machine2: no, we can't
[21:46] <machine2> yeah
[21:47] <jrib> Geo_M: run « sudo apt-get update » and try your apt-get again.  If it still fails, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and output of « sudo apt-get update ». For add-apt-repository, you need to install the python-software-properties package.  I have to go now though (others can help)
[21:47] <io> machine2: or like jrib said install both and then you can pick and choose whenever you feel like :-)
[21:47] <cheako> machine2: I think you should not like KDE.
[21:47] <machine2> lol
[21:48] <jrib> machine2: I have to go, bye.  You should just install every desktop and window manager and try them all until you decide on one :)  You may even become an xmonad user ;)
[21:48] <Geo_M> E: Invalid operation update
[21:48] <machine2> ok thank you
[21:48] <jrib> Geo_M: sudo apt-get update
[21:49] <Geo_M> that worked
[21:49] <jrib> Geo_M: and can you install aptitude now?
[21:49] <genii-around> KrazyKrivda: Perhaps try adjusting fstab to have mount option of: sync for that partition, and see if it still does that
[21:50] <Geo_M> i'll try, i still get, -bash: add-apt-repository: command not found
[21:50] <Geo_M> after trying to add a repo
[21:52] <machine2> if i read it correctly, kubuntu is easy to 'uninstall' if for whatever reason i am unable to get it set up correctly.
[21:52] <lfender> is anyone by any chnace useing easytether
[21:52] <buggvin> Hi...   can someone answer a question about software raid for me?
[21:53] <delac> how do I match only firefox in gtkrc?
[21:53] <koleary> \quit
[21:54] <[poisonborz]> I want to set up Samba so that it would use Ubuntu users/restrictions instead of its own smbpasswd-created users...is this possible?
[21:56] <szymon_g> hi
[21:56] <buggvin> i want to add two harddrives with a raid 1 solution using software raid to an existing ubuntu desktop install...   anyone done this before?
[21:56] <szymon_g> how can i change a font settings in new ubuntu?
[21:56] <iceroot> [poisonborz]: sure you can use the pam-stack for samba
[21:56] <iceroot> [poisonborz]: think best is to have a look at #samba
[21:56] <wolfmitchell> I need a startup disk creator
[21:56] <iceroot> !raid | buggvin
[21:56] <szymon_g> buggvin, maybe raid10 /aka raid1e/ would be a better solution :)?
[21:57] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: and what is the question?
[21:57] <KrazyKrivda> Is there any fix for this?:  the issue is.. say I am working in docs in ubuntu (on mounted partition) They are saved in Ubuntu just fine.. I hibernate Ubuntu and open windows.  Windows does not see these edited and created files.  However if I shut down Ubuntu THEN open windows they are there.
[21:57] <wolfmitchell> Are there any other than the ubuntu default?
[21:58] <wolfmitchell> That one corrupts kernel images, according to the Live USB when ran
[21:58] <iceroot> KrazyKrivda: mount the drive without async/caching, so that the changes are written directly to the drive
[21:58] <wolfmitchell> The default one does that
[21:58] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: dd
[21:58] <lfender> one thing i dont understand is why is it so slow to rip a cd with ubuntu
[21:58] <wolfmitchell> Ok
[21:58] <KrazyKrivda> iceroot: what changes would I make to fstab to do that?
[21:59] <DemoOn> how can i repair my ubuntu if while it was updating my pc turned off and now i can't do anything but login, now im on live usb
[21:59] <szymon_g> iceroot, is there any easy way to automatically mount all usb drives in synchronic way /i.e. so i wont have to "eject" them before removing/?
[21:59] <iceroot> KrazyKrivda: dont know the syntax. imo it was the option "sync" but maybe have a look at the manpage or others here know
[21:59] <ETERNA> Hi
[21:59] <KrazyKrivda> iceroot: my current mount is this "/dev/sda5	/mnt/FILES/ vfat 	iocharset=utf8,umask=000	0	0"
[22:00] <wolfmitchell> How do I install DD?
[22:00] <szymon_g> hi ETERNA
[22:00] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: dont use dd if you are asking on how to install dd
[22:00] <wolfmitchell> ...
[22:00] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: what is the exact issue with the usb-creator you have?
[22:01] <wolfmitchell> Whenever I boot into the Live USB it creates, my bootloader says the kernel image is missing or corrupt
[22:01] <iceroot> szymon_g: its always a good idea to use "reject" even when mounting with "sync"
[22:01] <buggvin> ubottu - the link about software raid talks about building a desktop with software raid...   I want to add it to an existing installation...    not sure if that will be different than the article says or not
[22:01] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: what version from ubuntu?
[22:02] <wolfmitchell> 10.10
[22:02] <iceroot> buggvin: its not different
[22:02] <wolfmitchell> I need to reinstall
[22:02] <iceroot> buggvin: but to have a backup is a good idea
[22:02] <lfender> why is ubuntu slow on ripping cds
[22:02] <grkblood> lmao
[22:02] <grkblood> what a weird question
[22:02] <bagels> Is there anyway to install source from another, older version of GTK?
[22:02] <szymon_g> iceroot, i could disagree :) never had any problems with not-rejected usb drive /under windows/. its much handier (?)
[22:03] <buggvin> lol...  just want to make sure I won't mess with the existing install on the non raid drive
[22:03] <buggvin> thanks for your hel
[22:03] <buggvin> help
[22:03] <iceroot> szymon_g: remove it when there is a write-action... then it doesnt matter if using sync or async
[22:03] <grkblood> is there a way to duplicate my laptop monitor through the hdmi port rather than extend it into dual monitor mode?
[22:03] <as2000> How do I stop having the computer go into standby mode after inactivity?
[22:04] <cmcqueeny> Strange issue here. I'm attempting a new install of 11.04 on a new system, and network-manager cannot enable my wifi. Don't think it's a hardware issue as I can bring up the network using iwconfig, etc.
[22:05] <cmcqueeny> Incidentally the machine is a ThinkPad Edge E420, network card is a Centrino Wireless-N 1000.
[22:06] <wolfmitchell> Found a Live USB creator
[22:07] <wolfmitchell> It's called LiveUSB-Instawll
[22:07] <wolfmitchell> *install
[22:07] <wolfmitchell> Getting a .deb now
[22:10] <DemoOn> can some1 help me fix this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/703028/
[22:11] <wolfmitchell> Btw what command starts gnome without graphical effects?
[22:12] <bagels> Is there a decent drawing program other than inkscape?
[22:13] <wolfmitchell> Idk
[22:13] <iceroot> bagels: vector-based?
[22:13] <bagels> iceroot, yes
[22:13] <wolfmitchell> What command start gnome without graphical effects?
[22:14] <iceroot> bagels: sorry dont know other vector-based programs for linux. whats the issue with inkscape?
[22:14] <bazhang> !nox > wolfmitchell
[22:14] <Jordan_U> bagels: Xara extreme, but I personally love inkscape. What problem do you have with it?
[22:14] <bagels> it doesn't work with my pentablet as far as pressure sensitivity goes
[22:14] <bagels> * Jordan_U and iceroot
[22:14] <bagels> it doesn't work with my pentablet as far as pressure sensitivity goes
[22:15] <wolfmitchell> Could not find the PM
[22:15] <Jordan_U> bagels: Does pressure sensitivity work in any app? That doesn't sound like an issue with inkscape specifically.
[22:15] <wolfmitchell> I'm in irssi right now...
[22:15] <bagels> Jordan_U, it works with MyPaint, but not GIMP or INkscape
[22:16] <drapedup> wolfmitchell: irssi is the client of the future
[22:16] <Jordan_U> bagels: Try asking in #inkscape as I'm fairly sure that inkscape does have pressure sensitivity support.
[22:16] <GuyLivinInChaos> hey, anybody can tell me where i found informations related to icon size and other things?
[22:16] <drapedup> GuyLivinInChaos: how can we tell you where you found that information ?
[22:16] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: ctrl +a to switch to the pm
[22:16] <bagels> Jordan_U, I know it does.  It just keeps thinking my pen isn't or somethng.  I'll ask #inkscape
[22:16] <iceroot> wolfmitchell: or better, to switch to the last highlight/pm
[22:17] <iceroot> bagels: if i am correct the drawer from libreoffice can also be used for vector-based images. if it is worth using... i dont know
[22:17] <GuyLivinInChaos> Jordan_U, sry. i'll reformulate the question
[22:19] <GuyLivinInChaos> i'm having troubles searching the location of some folder that keeps informations about icon size, icon path, and other data from files who have their propertyes changed
[22:20] <GuyLivinInChaos> searching on the web I found some documentation pointing to ~/.nautilus/metadata
[22:20] <GuyLivinInChaos> but now (using ubuntu 11.04) this folder doesn't exist
[22:20] <Naeblis> hi! I've been having problems with sound in my Ubuntu install after I install restricted extras. I've tried the comprehensive sound guide, but no luck so far.
[22:21] <DustyMonk> Naeblis: in Terminal, type aslamixer
[22:21] <noisewaterphd> GuyLivinInChaos: are you using Unity or Gnome?
[22:21] <DustyMonk> alsamixer*
[22:21] <GuyLivinInChaos> unity
[22:21] <Naeblis> DustyMonk, did it
[22:21] <GuyLivinInChaos> noisewaterphd, unity
[22:21] <bagels> iceroot, LibreDraw is wtf
[22:22] <Naeblis> headphone volume is full, so is PCM
[22:22] <bagels> Jordan_U, #inkscape said i can't join...?
[22:22] <iceroot> bagels: as i said, dont know if it is worth trying :)
[22:22] <bagels> Jordan_U, "#inkscape :Cannot send to channel"
[22:23] <bagels> iceroot,  now you know :D
[22:24] <noisewaterphd> bagels: you have to be registered to join inkscape
[22:24] <bagels> noisewaterphd, dang.  how do I join it
[22:24] <bagels> *register
[22:25] <ePlus> can anyone please explain why my wireless usb dongle can view my wireless network but not connect?
[22:25] <noisewaterphd> bagels: register your nick with NickServ
[22:25] <ePlus> wpa2-psk
[22:25] <manbra_linux> I've tried googling, but, I'm stuck.  How do I have two video outputs (i have a nvidia 465GTX) of my desktop.  If it was windows it would be called clone view
[22:25] <OerHeks> ePlus, perhaps your wireless router uses MAC filter
[22:26] <ePlus> nope
[22:27] <noisewaterphd> manbra_linux: install the proprietary nvidia driver, use the nvidia settings thing from the administration menu, and it is called twinview
[22:28] <manbra_linux> noisewaterphd, twin view just enables two screens for me
[22:28] <manbra_linux> I want it to display the same output on both screens
[22:29] <noisewaterphd> manbra_linux: then it is whatever the other option is
[22:29] <manbra_linux> the other option is for another x
[22:29] <lukasz_> y8io
[22:29] <lukasz_> u[
[22:29] <noisewaterphd> manbra_linux: thats the one
[22:30] <manbra_linux> noisewaterphd, there are two options, twinview and a new x server
[22:31] <noisewaterphd> manbra_linux: ive had ATI for a while now, im just going off what I can remember
[22:31] <manbra_linux> thanks for the help anyways
[22:31] <xxxcharley> !help
[22:31] <Naeblis> btw, here is my alsa configuration file: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=927773d357d23428919915a5d36b902b4f1a54e6
[22:32] <noisewaterphd> manbra_linux: I think I remember. its in the drop downs, the same ones that have "right of" "left of" and so on. there is a clone option in there
[22:32] <noisewaterphd> manbra_linux: again, *i think*
[22:33] <manbra_linux> noisewaterphd, you may have my first born.  Thank you, it worked.
[22:33] <noisewaterphd> manbra_linux: no more kids, thanks though
[22:34] <GuyLivinInChaos> where unity (ubuntu11.04) store informations about my customized icons?
[22:34] <GuyLivinInChaos> someone knows?
[22:36] <noisewaterphd> GuyLivinInChaos: I dont know personally, but I thought making you realize you werent using nautilus anymore would help you start searching down the right path
[22:37] <noisewaterphd> GuyLivinInChaos: do an ls -a in your home directory and see if there is anything interesting maybe
[22:37] <Naeblis> so, uhh...can anyone help, maybe ? :)
[22:37] <WADS> Can someone tell me what version of firefox is in 10.04 LTS ?
[22:38] <noisewaterphd> Naeblis: you sure you arent muted in alsamixer
[22:38] <GuyLivinInChaos> noisewaterphd, i've runned .* folders looking for xml files but i only found crap. %gconf.xml (with nothing i need)
[22:38] <xangua> !info firefox lucid | WADS
[22:38] <Naeblis> nopes
[22:38] <xangua> !fx7
[22:38] <xangua> you can upgrade firefox with the ppa WADS
[22:38] <xangua> !fx6
[22:38] <GuyLivinInChaos> noisewaterphd, i think that those informations are now stored in some sqlite database (or similar)
[22:38] <jY> using dpkg-buildpackage it is building collectd_4.10.1-1~ppa1 where in the debian dir can I edit to change the -1 to a -2
[22:39] <WADS> xangua: So if I want 6/7 I would need to use 11.x ?
[22:39] <Naeblis> noisewaterphd: there is supposed to be 00 instead of MM, right?
[22:39] <noisewaterphd> GuyLivinInChaos: have you done an ls -a in your home directory and looked at everything? you arent using gnome anymore, might not even be an xml file you are looking for
[22:40] <Jordan_U> !register | bagels
[22:40] <WADS> xangua: I'm assuming when Mozilla no longer supports 3, they will upgrade to 6 or 7 or whatever version then for security purposes ?
[22:40] <Emmanuelgoldstei> http://www.facebook.com/groups/denunciagoverno/
[22:41] <GuyLivinInChaos> noisewaterphd, the only intersting think i've found is ~/.local/share/gvfs-metadata but i can't 'traduct' the file contents
[22:42] <noisewaterphd> GuyLivinInChaos: ive never even used unity, so I dont know man, just trying to get you started
[22:42] <benjahoch> can i get some help please?
[22:42] <gry> benjahoch: 'just ask'
[22:42] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: painting your house?
[22:42] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: no, im busy
[22:43] <troulouliou> hi i have an ubuntu based live-usb with burg installed on it , one of the menu allow to directly launch a program from the live system , can somebody give me a link to a tuto that explain this
[22:43] <GuyLivinInChaos> noisewaterphd, well, tks for help
[22:43] <noisewaterphd> GuyLivinInChaos: np
[22:43] <benjahoch> i'm on an acer aspire 4520, trying to get the webcam to work, i did a lsusb and the system doesn't show my crystal eye webcam, any ideas?
[22:45] <Naeblis> noisewaterphd: any other suggestions?
[22:46] <fep> p
[22:46] <gry> q
[22:47] <fep> how essent. do i need to mak backtrack penttest ver. as user friendly as vubuntu it self?
[22:48] <benjahoch> i'm on an acer aspire 4520, running ubuntu 11.04, trying to get the webcam to work, i did a lsusb and the system doesn't show my crystal eye webcam, any ideas?
[22:49] <fep> how to get backtrack version as user friendly likr regular ubuntu install??
[22:50] <deku> fep, LOL
[22:50] <benjahoch> i'm on an acer aspire 4520, running ubuntu 11.04, trying to get the webcam to work, i did a lsusb and the system doesn't show my crystal eye webcam, any ideas?
[22:51] <bazhang> fep, try the backtrack support channel. it's not supported here
[22:51] <deku> fep, backtrack isnt meant to be "user friendly like regular ubuntu" its supposed to work for what it was created to do.. hack..
[22:51] <fep> deku, i was not joking....
[22:51] <sven_> benjahoch, might be unsupported?
[22:51] <deku> =P
[22:51] <bazhang> benjahoch, tried with cheese ?
[22:51] <benjahoch> tried with cheese
[22:51] <bazhang> !backtrack | fep
[22:52] <thomedy> okay i need to add a windows install to my linux machine.. cuz i need ie and in college i have to use oracle
[22:52] <fep> how do i delete ALL and install newest ubuntui
[22:52] <fep> io dont need BT
[22:52] <thomedy> but it is saying i need to partition out x amount of bits...
[22:52] <thomedy> i manned fdisk but im afraid to ruin my machine can anyone help me with this
[22:52] <bazhang> fep, www.ubuntu.com get the iso and burn to cd or usb stick
[22:52] <benjahoch> worked with an earlier version of ubuntu, i think it was around version 6, and the camera worked in windows vista so i know the camera itself isn't busted
[22:54] <spike> hi, any idea why a usb stick created from mac will show up in the bios of a netbook but then it will never boot from it? it's like the dd'ed ubuntu image is not a valid OS or something
[22:55] <deww> spike: probably needs an active partition
[22:56] <deww> also known as bootable, you can mark it in fdisk/parted
[22:56] <Jordan_U> spike: Ubuntu isos cannot simply be dd'd to a drive for booting on BIOS based systems.
[22:56] <thomedy> deww can you explain fdisk to me
[22:57] <Jordan_U> deww: Having a partition marked bootable does not make it bootable, and is a convention of Microsoft's boot sector code. An active partition is not required (or used) by grub.
[22:57] <thomedy> or atleast send me to an fdisk tutorial
[22:57] <deww> Jordan_U: oh ok. found out syslinux needed it too ( was making a boot key last night)
[22:57] <spike> Jordan_U: ok. I've simply followed what it says for 'create a usb key from mac', but then I'm installing on an acer notebook, so guess that's not good enough
[22:57] <Shwaiil> Q: Anyone experienced with postfix ? I installed first time and in options I've choosed "localhost", after testing I didnt get any emails so, I saw a tutorial where the user uses "internet" as option. I'm seeing the config files but I dont see where to change. tryed uninstalling but.. nothing :P any help ? tks
[22:57] <thomedy> i was manning it and i jus tdont want to ruin my machine
[22:58] <benjahoch> i'm on an acer aspire 4520, running ubuntu 11.04, trying to get the webcam to work, i did a lsusb and the system doesn't show my crystal eye webcam, any ideas?
[22:58] <noisewaterphd> spike: formatted or created incorrectly, follow the instructions from the ubuntu site closely
[22:58] <spike> Jordan_U: can you recommend some way of getting this done? I've got a mac I'm creating the key on and I'm trying to install on the acer aspire
[22:58] <Jordan_U> spike: Correct. Those instructions should be clarified to state that they will only make a drive which is bootable from a mac.
[22:58] <spike> I see
[23:00] <deww> thomedy: another possible option is to use virtualbox/vmware player and install Windows under that. fdisk is destructive.
[23:00] <spike> to be fair, doing what I did on the mac and trying to boot on the same mac, would also not show the USB device as a bootable disk
[23:00] <Jordan_U> spike: It's difficult at the moment. With 11.10 I believe you will be able to simply dd the image and have a bootable drive, and I can create an image for you which is dd-able if you'd like but it would need to be tomorrow.
[23:00] <Jordan_U> spike: Are you using the 64 bit iso?
[23:00] <spike> nope, 32bit
[23:01] <noisewaterphd> spike, Jordan_U: things may have changed, but I know that at least in the 10.04 era, I created a boot stick for a netbook, from my macbook pro, and it worked fine
[23:02] <Jordan_U> noisewaterphd: Not using dd and the standard Ubuntu iso.
[23:02] <noisewaterphd> spike: i do remember having to do a little bit of trickery to make the netbook allow me to boot from usb though
[23:02] <thomedy> is that something i should already have because if so i dont knkow
[23:02] <thomedy> virtual box let me google it or check it in unity
[23:02] <spike> well, in the bios the netbook totally recognises the key, it just doesn't seem to think there's a valid fs on it it can boot from and skips to hdd
[23:03] <noisewaterphd> Jordan_U: definitely the standard ubuntu netbook iso at the time, and just by following the directions from the site
[23:03] <noisewaterphd> Jordan_U: dont recall if that instructs you to use dd or not
[23:03] <Jordan_U> spike: Only the 64 bit iso contains an EFI bootloader as the bootloader needs to match the architecture of both the machine and the kernel with EFI and most EFI capable machines are 64 bit.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> noisewaterphd: Ahh, the netbook image was different.
[23:06] <noisewaterphd> Jordan_U: ya, they used to be seperate things at the time
[23:07] <vlt> Hello. I configured two keyboard layouts. How to switch between them (w/o using the mouse)?
[23:07] <spike> Jordan_U: ah, I see, that makes a lot of sense, thank you
[23:08] <Jordan_U> spike: You're welcome.
[23:08] <spike> could it be possible as a stop gap measure to download an older netbook image and apt-get upgrade ?
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> vlt: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg19t9.htm
[23:08] <benjahoch> i'm on an acer aspire 4520, running ubuntu 11.04, trying to get the webcam to work, i did a lsusb and the system doesn't show my crystal eye webcam, any ideas?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> benjahoch: is it in lspci ?
[23:09] <benjahoch> no
[23:09] <panpanpan> whats a good vnc program that works with windows too?
[23:10] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: http://rafeequl.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/acer-crystaleye-webcam-on-linux-ubuntu/
[23:10] <Jordan_U> spike: If you need something today then I would recommend that you copy the iso file (as a file) to the netbook and put it in a directory /boot-isos/ (this will work even with ntfs, but the directory needs to be top level, i.e. in "C:\boot-isos") then dd Super GRUB2 Disk to the flash drive and use Super GRUB2 Disk's iso booting option.
[23:10] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[23:10] <deww> Jordan_U: cool thanks for the info about active parttitions :) (just tried it on my drive with grub)
[23:10] <Jordan_U> deww: You're welcome :)
[23:10] <benjahoch> thanks i'll try it
[23:11] <RobbieCrash> I've got an LSISAS2008 SATA/SAS HBA card that is not showing up when I do lspci. I booted into Windows and the card is detected properly. Modprobe -l mpt2sas shows that the module is installed. Can anyone give me any suggestions on where to begin?
[23:11] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Thank you. I can’t find any option in my language that matches „Group Shift/Lock behaviour”. Which entry is it? 10th?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> benjahoch: what apps have you tried the cam in?
[23:11] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: I dont know myself, just throwing you the first few links from a goolge search
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> vlt: that's  all I know, there is a panel item to switch layouts
[23:12] <benjahoch> cheese, guvcview, skype
[23:12]  * R3db3ard says Hello world!!
[23:12] <vlt> panpanpan: RealVNC or TightVNC, for example.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> vlt: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-to-change-keyboard-layout-in-ubuntu.html
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> panpanpan; vnc is a standardized protocol, so any client will be fine
[23:13] <spike> Jordan_U: ftr, the netbook has a *very* old fedora. I take I can put the iso in / and still use super grub2 disk, correct?
[23:14] <noisewaterphd> Jordan_U: that boot-isos trick is sweet, stashing that one a way for later
[23:15] <karj> hi
[23:15] <benjahoch> no go on the links
[23:16] <yacc> ActionParsnip, the IDE trick did not fix it completely, but the going rate changed from ~300MB/error to ~4GB/error, further ideas?
[23:16] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: just keep searching and looking
[23:16] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Ok, found it and changed it to "Alt+Shift" because the default "both Alt keys" didn’t work. Thanks for your help.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> vlt: np bro
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> yacc: thats all I know dude, sorry
[23:16] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: someone has had to have had the same notebook and the same problem somewhere
[23:17] <benjahoch> yah, i've been searching since yesterday afternoon lol
[23:18] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: those people just dont seem to be on this channel right now, so do some leg work that way, and if you dont have any luck, jump in here a little bit later and ask again when some new folks will have come on
[23:18] <benjahoch> alright, thanks noisewater
[23:19] <noisewaterphd> benjahoch: of course, Im really sorry i cant help. somebody knows, we'll get you fixed up
[23:22] <GuyLivinInChaos> noisewaterphd, thanks for all your help, i've found the information i need using gvfs (passing as argument the filename i need)
[23:22] <GuyLivinInChaos> thanks a lot
[23:23] <skegeek> Any self-hosters happen to be in here?
[23:23] <kaushal> Hi
[23:23] <marko> hello whenever i try to run angry birds on wine i get opengl 2.0 and 1.4 renderer not supported... now they told me to install the 32 bit opengl libraries but how?
[23:23] <kaushal> is there a way to know which version of a package is going to be installed ?
[23:24] <DustyMonk> kaushal: apt-cache policy [blah]
[23:24] <R3db3ard> anyone here using xirc?
[23:24] <kaushal> DustyMonk: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/703055/
[23:25] <DustyMonk> kaushal: try policy, not search
[23:25] <skyw> anyone that can give me the steps for activate external monitor with keyboard
[23:25] <kaushal> DustyMonk: it did not worked
[23:25] <Monsterwizard> Ubuntu has every service going..even their own pastebin :P
[23:25] <kaushal> basically i need to know what version of glassfish is going to be installed
[23:26] <DustyMonk> kaushal: is it in the repos?
[23:26] <kaushal> yes
[23:26] <KinkyPinkie> I am trying to set up an old pc as a server here, and I wonder if I've misunderstood the public key transfer. Can I do ' ssh-copy-id user@ubuntu ' over wlan?
[23:27] <skie> hi.  quick question - is there any website / database that says if drivers exist for ubuntu?  I need to pick up a new NIC and I want to make sure it's supported.
[23:27] <DustyMonk> kaushal: glassfish is not the complete name, try apt-cache search [complete name]
[23:27] <R3db3ard> i can't see what i'm typing
[23:27] <R3db3ard> it isn't showing me the channel output
[23:28] <DustyMonk> kaushal: glassfish is not the complete name, try apt-cache policy [complete name]
[23:28] <noisewaterphd> GuyLivinInChaos: i dont know that I was much help, but I am happy to here you found the answer!
[23:29] <wolfyyy``> i always think that whenever i ask anything, everyone comes up with a simple command.. how? what language is it? easy to learn?
[23:29] <th0r> wolfyyy``: it's called experience
[23:29] <DustyMonk> wolfyyy``: probably bash
[23:30] <Jordan_U> spike: Correct.
[23:30] <yacc> ActionParsnip, hmmm, if I test an external USB drive, and it shows the same errors, that would point to my DIMM collection, OTOH, if I cannot reproduce it, that would suggest SATA/IDE trouble?
[23:30] <skie> is there any website / database that says if drivers exist for ubuntu?  I need to pick up a new NIC and I want to make sure it's supported.
[23:30] <wolfyyy``> DustMonk, bash is a language? i thought its kind of script.
[23:30] <Jordan_U> spike: To be clear, it needs to be '/boot-isos/', the directory name is critical.
[23:30] <yacc> skie, what should the NIC do?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> yacc: could run memtest to double check, or try a different SATA controller. Also make sure the BIOS is recent
[23:31] <yacc> skie, ethernet devices are practically all supported, AFAIK.
[23:31] <SejmL> Good evening
[23:31] <skie> yacc - you sure?
[23:31] <skie> I mean, it's only like $5 shipped, but still, on principle and what not
[23:31] <SejmL> Is there any way to change the thing in ubuntu preventing long filenames?
[23:32] <Star_Light> Can I ask something please?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> spike: Actually, you're going to have to do more to get the Ubuntu installer to be able to install from the partition you booted from. There are many options but none I have time to explain right now :(
[23:32] <Home_> i'm trying to install ubuntu to a custom pc but can't get it to recognize a HD...
[23:32] <spike> Jordan_U: got it, will give it a go. thank you very much for all your help, it's rare to find people combining skill, patience and thoroughness in their answer
[23:32] <skie> and to answer your first question, all I need is it to function like a basic wired NIC - to access the home's router
[23:32] <spike> Jordan_U: it's ok, I'll figure something out, thank you. gtg, have a good day.
[23:32] <Star_Light> ANybody knows a room which has 4G telecomunication topics?
[23:33] <Star_Light> I want to find a room for mobile telecomunications.... is exists???
[23:34] <DustyMonk> !repeat| Star_Light
[23:34] <yacc> skie, that's why I asked, but personally (ethernet, not wlan) haven't managed to find a card that did not just work with Linux in the last couple of years. If you want something special (server class active cards with much processing done on the NIC than you might have issues)
[23:34] <qin> Star_Light: Channel, not room. And #hardware and #networking, also /msg alis help
[23:34] <qin> !alis
[23:34] <th0r> Star_Light: ask in #freenode
[23:34] <yacc> Star_Light, hint: it's channel on IRC, not room.
[23:34] <yacc> Star_Light, with that fascinating insight you ask your BigBrother Google ;)
[23:34] <Star_Light> ok guys sorry I am tryting to improve my english ;p
[23:35] <Star_Light> I looked for up forums but I didnt find anything
[23:35] <Jordan_U> spike: You're welcome. If you'd like to try to do it on your own some hints are to add the "toram" kernel parameter at the grub menu, unmount /cdrom/ from the live session *and* "losetup -d /dev/loop0". If you have more than 1 GiB of RAM that should allow you to install to the media you booted from. If not, you can use the netboot image but that won't be automatically detected by Super GRUB2 Disk.
[23:35] <DustyMonk> duckduckgo is a great alternative for BB google :)
[23:35] <yacc> Star_Light, what do you want to know?
[23:35] <Home_> Can anyone tell me why my HD won't mount?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> DustyMonk: its what I use mostly :)
[23:35] <skie> yacc - alrighty then, I'll give it a shot.  worse case scenario I'm out $5 and it's a learning experience.  thanks, dude.
[23:36] <Star_Light> yacc I have problem with my university project and my teacher dont respond me in my emails so I have token the lack on my back ;p
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> DustyMonk: gotta love the bang searches
[23:36] <DustyMonk> Demented Are Go! ;)
[23:37] <Star_Light> Finally I want the explanation of complexity.... Has a similar sense with impact?
[23:37] <R3db3ard> Need Help installing Ubuntu 10.04LTS to pc
[23:37] <DustyMonk> ask away R3db3ard
[23:38] <R3db3ard> I've been trying to install it for several days and i've tried several configurations but can't get the HD to mount to let me install
[23:38] <yacc> skie: I'm almost sure that a $5 card will work, it will almost certainly be a so called "connectivity" solution from RealTek or so ;)
[23:38] <R3db3ard> is there a way to force the HD (i can see it in disk utility) to mount?
[23:38] <noisewaterphd> R3db3ard: sata drive on an old mobo?
[23:39] <DustyMonk> R3db3ard: type mount|pastebinit and paste it here, so we can see
[23:39] <R3db3ard> yeah
[23:39] <noisewaterphd> R3db3ard: that can be a pita, and the problem is usually with the bios somewhere
[23:39] <DustyMonk> R3db3ard: you have more than one pc? if yes, can you ssh to the not-working pc?
[23:41] <skie> yacc - possibly even more generic, it's listed as a "Retail Plus+" brand, haha
[23:41] <R3db3ard> i'm on a separate pc, i am running a livedvd on the old pc
[23:41] <DustyMonk> FYI, offtopic, Steve Jobs has died
[23:42] <R3db3ard> i don't know much about ssh
[23:42] <Zanzacar> Hello Everyone I am looking for help with configuration of powernap on ubuntu. Is this a good channel for this or should I look for something else?
[23:43] <noisewaterphd> DustyMonk: link to news? offtopic or not thats big news if its true
[23:43] <Monsterwizard>  http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
[23:44] <noisewaterphd> wow, finally really happened
[23:44] <stacks`> does anyone know how to create a directory that everyone can write in, but only the owner of the dir can remove the files inside the directory?
[23:44] <skie> oh, wow... RIP, Steve.
[23:45] <Random832> stacks`: chmod 1777
[23:45] <R3db3ard> how could i get it on the network?
[23:45] <Random832> er, wait, no, that' owner of the _files_
[23:45] <Random832> i don't think you _can_ do that... maybe with ACLs
[23:45] <th0r> Random832: that would allow anyone to delete files
[23:45] <qmanjr5> How do I completely remove Apache, MySQL, and PHP? I need to restart my installation of LAMP, it seems. -.-
[23:46] <noisewaterphd> ya, very sad. condolences to his family from the ubuntu community
[23:46]  * DustyMonk feels sad
[23:46] <Monsterwizard> yes may he rip
[23:46] <Zanzacar> sudo apt-get --purge remove apache
[23:46] <Zanzacar> sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql
[23:46] <Zanzacar> sudo apt-get --purge remove php
[23:46] <dingham> Does anyone here have much experience of pulseaudio/multicast?
[23:47] <Zanzacar> --purge will remove configuration files from what I understand, when you reinstall it then it should bring you back to a default setup.
[23:47] <dingham> I've got a bit of oddness going on with it killing my network
[23:47] <qmanjr5> Zanzacar, are you familiar with LAMP installs?
[23:47] <redebr2818> yeah..
[23:47] <iceroot> qmanjr5: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 php5 mysql-server
[23:48] <redebr2818> steve passed away..
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Zanzacar: why not just use one line: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache mysql php
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Zanzacar: no need for separate commands ;)
[23:49] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: Zanzacar why not using the correct packagenames? :)
[23:49] <qmanjr5> Is anyone familiar with installing those 3 again?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: probably better
[23:49] <iceroot> qmanjr5: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[23:51] <dude`> steve jobs died!
[23:51] <RobbieCrash> why would something not show up in lspci?
[23:51] <dude`> apple.com
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> !ot | dude`
[23:51] <Ellipsis753> so I may or may not have somehow ended up with everything being read-only. Is there anything I can do?
[23:52] <Ellipsis753> (I'm getting strange errors and can't edit anything, I think I may have corrupted the filesystem a bit with a hard-reset)
[23:53] <Ellipsis753> anyone know what I can do?
[23:55] <Andy80> ActionParsnip: you're right, he's OT, but.... I would give a look and observe at least 1 minute of silence before judging :\
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Andy80: thats offtopic here, this is support only
[23:57] <RobbieCrash> Andy80 additionally, if you'll scroll up in the channel, you'll see there was already a bunch of talk about it.
[23:58] <Monsterwizard> #ubuntu-offtopic