| knome | pleia2, well, we have at least something now!! :) | 00:05 |
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| sandra_ | G'day my fellow Xubuntu inmates :-) | 00:39 |
| sandra_ | I trust you all are doing well . | 00:40 |
| sandra_ | I am new to Xubuntu and too linux and I hope someone can be kind enough to help me. | 00:40 |
| sandra_ | My son just installed Xubuntu on my laptop . I followed the instructions he left for updating my new OS . | 00:42 |
| sandra_ | But unfortunately there seems to be a problem with the Oneiric repositories | 00:43 |
| sandra_ | Is it me or anyone else experiencing problems connecting to the oneiric repositories ? | 00:43 |
| Unit193 | I haven't, but it's best to ask support questions in a support channel :P (#ubuntu+1) | 00:55 |
| Unit193 | More people to help you there | 00:56 |
| sandra_ | Unit193, Oh I'm sorry thank you. | 01:00 |
| Unit193 | No problem | 01:00 |
| Pjotr | madnick: Hello, I have a request for the bug ticket about lightdm-gtk-greeter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/862427 | 13:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 862427 in Light Display Manager "lightdm-gtk-greeter does not set translation domain" [Medium,Fix committed] | 13:08 |
| Pjotr | Can you revert the status from "fix released" into "confirmed"? This because there are still three untranslated items. I have tried changing the status myself, but I'm not authorized to do so. | 13:09 |
| Pjotr | Reverting the status to "confirmed" will prevent this final issue from being forgotten. | 13:09 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 15:09 |
| genii-around | Well, morning, anyhow | 15:10 |
| Unit193 | Howdy | 15:12 |
| charlie-tca | Images are working today | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | Olbi: You should grab today's image. It will install instead of crash | 16:40 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: Could you look into what Pjotr said? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/05/%23xubuntu-devel.html | 16:48 |
| madnick | I don't have authority to do that | 16:48 |
| charlie-tca | I will comment on the bug report. Those three items are going to need a new bug report, since they are marked as not translatable. I explained that to him already, I think | 16:52 |
| madnick | Oh okay | 16:52 |
| madnick | I don't even think its a bug to be honest, those greeters are meant to serve as examples as far as i know | 16:52 |
| charlie-tca | and the second question looking at that log is "who/why did anyone install oneiric on a new users computer?" | 16:52 |
| Unit193 | Didn't want to wait just over a week to update? You recommended Natty to me before it was released (Worked best, not saying you shouldn't) | 16:54 |
| madnick | there is a similar question in #xubuntu right now :P | 16:57 |
| Unit193 | Yep | 16:57 |
| Unit193 | "Will there be issues" :P | 16:57 |
| madnick | Todays images worked flawlessly however, but I dont know what happens if one upgrades to tomorrows | 16:58 |
| charlie-tca | The issue I have is if someone installs the development version for a new user, they need to be available to answer new user questions. | 16:59 |
| charlie-tca | Those users in Ubuntu+1 will raise a lot of fuss about questions that a user using development versions should already know the answer to. | 16:59 |
| charlie-tca | Heh, yeah, I guess yesterday's answer would have been "yes", huh? | 17:05 |
| Pjotr | charlie-tca: good evening (or whatever your timezone is)! This issue hasn't been solved yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/799268 | 18:12 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 799268 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu: default screensaver should be black screen, not random" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 18:12 |
| Pjotr | Will the solution make it into Oneiric? | 18:13 |
| charlie-tca | Why should it be black instead of a screensaver? | 18:15 |
| charlie-tca | Ubuntu threw the screensaver out completely now, shouldn't we follow what they do? | 18:16 |
| Unit193 | What do they use?? | 18:16 |
| charlie-tca | None | 18:16 |
| charlie-tca | Gnome3 decided turning the monitor is much better for everyone | 18:16 |
| charlie-tca | Gnome3 decided turning the monitor *off* is much better for everyone | 18:16 |
| charlie-tca | Of course, they do let you choose how long to have it on... 1 min, 3 min, 30 min, 1 hour | 18:17 |
| charlie-tca | Note ^ ^ no option to say leave it on, either | 18:17 |
| Pjotr | The reason is, that some screensavers cause crashes on some hardware. The default screensaver should be failsafe, i.e. black screen. Or be switched off alltogether.... | 18:18 |
| * Unit193 is glad he uses Xfce | 18:18 | |
| charlie-tca | Pjotr: I don't think it is very much effort for the user to reset the screensaver to whatever they want. | 18:18 |
| Pjotr | But it makes such a bad impression, when the system locks up because of a heavy 3D screensaver | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | If it was my preference, it would be a single screensaver, perhaps fish | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | I would think if you know that in advance, you can advise them to set it to a single screensaver? | 18:20 |
| Pjotr | at least when people *choose* a 3D monster, then they wouldn't be so put off as by a random | 18:20 |
| Pjotr | the default should be failsafe | 18:21 |
| Pjotr | imho | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | Your opinion is allowed. Perhaps we will discuss this again for the next release. | 18:25 |
| Pjotr | That's as much as I can ask for. :-) | 18:25 |
| Pjotr | I have a request for the bug ticket about lightdm-gtk-greeter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/862427 | 18:26 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 862427 in Light Display Manager "lightdm-gtk-greeter does not set translation domain" [Medium,Fix committed] | 18:26 |
| Unit193 | Disabling a few/all GL screensavers could help | 18:27 |
| Pjotr | Can you revert the status from "fix released" into "confirmed"? This because there are still three untranslated items. I have tried changing the status myself, but I'm not authorized to do so. | 18:27 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I think you should file a new bug for those three "non-translatable" items left | 18:27 |
| Pjotr | OK, I'll make a new one and inform you about it... | 18:28 |
| charlie-tca | please, and I can then mark it and push it, but it won't happen in oneiric, you know. | 18:28 |
| charlie-tca | The issue with the GL screensavers is they are part of xscreensaver, and we are limited in what is allowed. | 18:29 |
| Pjotr | OK, here's the new bug report about the greeter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/868613 | 18:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 868613 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm-gtk-greeter in Xubuntu, has three untranslatable items" [Undecided,New] | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | Will make sure it is noticed | 18:39 |
| Pjotr | Thanks! | 18:39 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: You add it or shall I? | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, you can add it. I will triage the report and mark it to get it done in P | 18:40 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: Got it in. I got stuck in support an a PM | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 18:52 |
| Unit193 | I know how to update that one ;) | 18:53 |
| charlie-tca | and now... I present the Precise Pangolin, destined to become Xubuntu 12.04 LTS | 19:17 |
| charlie-tca | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784 | 19:17 |
| Unit193 | Gaaa!!! | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | Much easier to pronounce the Oneiric Ocelot | 19:20 |
| Unit193 | Dangit, I was wishing for Pink Panther ;) But really, needed something to do with a Penguin | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | I was hoping for Penguin, too | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | hm, I find Precise much easier to spell too | 19:23 |
| madnick | I never heard about an Ocelot nor a Pangolin :P | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | but couldn't it have been Precise Penguin? | 19:24 |
| Unit193 | ^^ | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: that's one of the greatest things about Ubuntu. You get to know all kinds of animals you would not even think about :) | 19:24 |
| madnick | indeed :) I read the wiki suggestion page just a couple of days ago | 19:25 |
| madnick | and it listed alot of animals unheard of by me | 19:25 |
| Unit193 | But P!! P was the one chance for Penguin, the linux LOGO | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | which might be why it is not used, though. It avoids having Ubuntu become linux | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | which it has been accused of before. Ubuntu == linux, but linux != Ubuntu alone | 19:27 |
| madnick | I heard it today :) | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | and I suspect using penguin would have created huge issues about that | 19:27 |
| madnick | Its hard to explain however, to people | 19:27 |
| madnick | People tend to think "Mac, Linux, Windows" | 19:28 |
| Unit193 | Eh, that's the problem with people | 19:28 |
| madnick | I said, to not compilacte things: Ubuntu builds upon Linux | 19:28 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, but the argument has been made already that Ubuntu and Linux should not be the same. People need to know there are many variations of linux to choose from. | 19:28 |
| madnick | I think it may acctually be good for people to think of a certain distro as "Linux", because wI know friends who have called me, "Hi, I was going to try out Linux, but I cant find theirhomepage" | 19:31 |
| Unit193 | In a way, yes | 19:33 |
| madnick | I have quite alot of stories about people and Linux, my friend works in an eletronics store, but I dont want it logged :P | 19:33 |
| Unit193 | Yep, that's what I hate most about the Ubuntu channels :P | 19:34 |
| Unit193 | It's also what offtopic is for | 19:34 |
| madnick | true | 19:34 |
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