[06:59] <oSoMoN> good morning
[10:26] <czajkowski> morning
[10:26] <apinheiro> njpatel, so, can I merge the branch or do I need to wait for lamalex?
[10:26] <czajkowski> anyone from the design team araound ?
[10:26] <apinheiro> you said something about that yesterday
[10:28] <czajkowski> aruiz: ello
[10:38] <aruiz> czajkowski: hey hey
[10:41] <czajkowski> aruiz: still here :)
[10:42] <aruiz> czajkowski: huh?
[11:00] <njpatel> apinheiro, plaese merge
[11:09] <czajkowski> njpatel: ello ello!
[11:23] <njpatel> hi czajkowski
[11:25] <czajkowski> njpatel: how goes that patch to block out #tags ;)
[11:25] <njpatel> czajkowski, hah, not well, unfortunately, too busy right now :(
[11:26] <njpatel> but, definitely happening before olympics ;)
[11:26] <czajkowski> njpatel: oh god yes please before then, and also then in 2015 for the RWC in UK :)
[11:27] <czajkowski> njpatel: I did mention you on my rugby world update post :)
[11:28] <njpatel> czajkowski, hehe, nice :)
[13:24] <smoser> anyone else see bug 863301 ?
[13:24] <smoser> i saw it when i opened the bug, then it went a way on a couple subsequent logins, but i upgraded last night and i'm seeing it again.
[13:41] <nmarques> hi, anyone knows if it is possible to build indicator-datetime without the panel stuff ? (I don't have available libgnome-control-center)
[13:43] <hicham> that would be absurd
[13:43] <hicham> the indicator should be tied to control-center, since it uses the applet from there
[13:48] <nmarques> a simple 'no' would be enough
[13:48] <nmarques> no need to be rude
[13:49] <nmarques> let me guess, you're from Fedora? all explained
[13:49] <hicham> sorry, i was just explaining
[15:33] <lamalex> om26er, why did you mark this as a compiz bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/735061
[15:42] <htorque> hi all! do i need to restart the session to get the new unity-lens-applications working? if a unity restart should be enough, i got bad news for mhr3 ;-)
[15:43] <mhr3> htorque, unity restart is *not* enough
[15:43] <htorque> good
[15:43] <mhr3> but if you kill the daemons the new version will be restarted
[15:44] <mhr3> so no need to end session
[15:45] <htorque> hm, "apps available for download" → Unity 2D, which is installed. maybe i should try a restart.
[15:51] <htorque> mhr3: looked good for a while but now it's showing me Kate and Unity 2D again, which are both installed.
[15:52] <mhr3> oh... kde apps, i forgot that those might cause trouble
[16:04] <htorque> mhr3: it's also showing "System Settings" - should i change the bug status back to new (bug 858056)?
[16:06] <mhr3> htorque, yea, pls add a comment that kde's still causing trouble
[16:10] <htorque> mh3: i clicked on the "system settings" icon and turns out that's indeed the kde version of it - shouldn't that have its own icon (showed the same as the gnome one)?
[16:25] <htorque> mterry: hi! sorry, i was afk (re: bug 835646)
[16:25] <czajkowski> anyone on the design team around
[16:25] <czajkowski> I know ian farrell is away, who's next in line?
[16:25] <mterry> htorque, hi!
[16:26] <mterry> htorque, so was your comment with my latest branches I had pointed to, or with oneiric updates?
[16:26] <mterry> htorque, (the one about memory use)
[16:26] <mterry> htorque, oh, I see you commented again
[16:27] <mterry> htorque, thanks for testing them out!  The updates just went into oneiric
[16:27] <htorque> cool! :-)
[16:27] <htorque> thanks for the memleak hunting! :-)
[16:32] <htorque> mhr3: so gnome's and kde's system settings are both called "System Settings" and they have almost identical icons (http://img.xrmb2.net/images/611466.png) - should i make this a bug report against whatever package or do we have to live with such cases?
[16:34] <mterry> htorque, there was a thread in gnome recently about that
[16:34] <mterry> htorque, KDE guys seemed a little upset.  I think the result was that there are ways around it using OnlyShowIn with 2 desktops with different names (KDE System Settings vs System Settings when in KDE)
[16:37] <htorque> mterry: interesting, thanks for the info! that's the problem when there's no "k" in your application name that you could capitalize. :-P
[16:37] <mterry> :)
[16:37] <mterry> htorque, I do remember that KDE people said they specifically didn't want it merely hidden when not in KDE, since it is the only way to adjust some settings of some KDE apps
[16:38] <mterry> I don't know if that's true in reverse for GNOME system settings
[16:46] <mhr3> htorque, i'm afraid we have to live with that
[16:49] <mhr3> mterry, i saw that you're working on the leaks in libdbusmenu, did you see the nice video i made a while back? :)
[16:50] <mterry> mhr3, no?  is a video of top?  :)
[16:51] <mhr3> heh
[16:51] <mhr3> just a sec, need to find the link
[16:52] <mhr3> mterry, http://ubuntuone.com/3XRApFaRZJ9jyR6O6FwJZX
[16:52] <mhr3> but it's about a week old, so things probably changed...
[16:53] <mterry> mhr3, oh, cute.  what's leak-detector?
[16:54] <mterry> mhr3, hopefully much better!
[16:54] <mterry> no dbusmenuitems for one
[16:55] <mhr3> little something i wrote for leak hunting
[16:55] <mhr3> leak hunting gobjects at least
[16:55] <mhr3> i can re-run it tomorrow if you pushed the fixes to O already
[16:56] <mhr3> i'm done for today :)
[16:56] <mterry> mhr3, awesome.  makes me think of http://blogs.gnome.org/danni/2011/02/17/ld_preload-gobject-lifetime-debugging-tool/
[16:56] <mterry> mhr3, i have, i'd be interested how much better it is for you
[16:56] <mhr3> mterry, that's what i based it on :)
[16:56] <mterry> mhr3, nice.  is the source out there?
[16:57] <mhr3> not really, but let me push it into my junk
[16:58] <mhr3> mterry, bzr push lp:~mhr3/+junk/leak-detector
[16:59] <mterry> cool
[17:12] <nmarques> Anyone can confirm me if libappindicator appindicator3-0.1.pc file has the intended includedir ?
[17:12] <nmarques> shouldnt it be: libappindicator3-0.1 instead of libappindicator-0.1 ? or this is just a personal issue ?
[17:25] <kenvandine> nmarques, that is basically the same issue you had in app-indicator.c
[17:25] <kenvandine> for dbusmenu
[17:25] <kenvandine> the headers are the same for gtk2 and gtk3
[17:25] <kenvandine> so we point to just one set of them
[17:26] <kenvandine> iirc :)
[17:28] <nmarques> kenvandine, patched... and all my broken patches are done :/
[17:29] <nmarques> I mean broken apps
[17:29] <kenvandine> so you can patch the .pc file
[17:29] <kenvandine> nmarques, although it would be nice to have a bug report to fix that up some other way
[17:31] <nmarques> well you have 2 .pc files, this one could be fixed to the real stuff for gtk3 builds
[17:32] <kenvandine> yeah
[17:32] <nmarques> I'll drop the patch in a bug report
[17:32] <kenvandine> thx
[17:32] <kenvandine> we'll see what tedg says
[17:35] <nmarques> btw, nice hack on gnome-control-center (I don't agree with upstream also on not allowing more panels)
[17:35] <kenvandine> nmarques,  :)
[17:35] <kenvandine> indeed
[17:36] <kenvandine> that was quite a thread on the d-d-l
[17:38] <nmarques> kenvandine, it sorted indicator-datetime, so I'm happy... now I have to focus on compiz, and really this is where motivation flies away
[17:41] <nmarques> lp#869373
[17:41] <kenvandine> hehe...
[17:41] <nmarques> submitted
[17:42] <kenvandine> thx
[17:43] <nmarques> if this works out and I can get Unity building with the current of patches, I will try to push it for next cycle
[17:43] <nmarques> back to compiz :/
[19:02] <CrazyLemon> hey guys.. where could i see all the letters from ubuntu mono font (currently used in terminal) ?
[19:03] <CrazyLemon> is there a webpage/file ?
[19:03] <nmarques> gnome-font-viewer ?
[19:10] <CrazyLemon> thanks nmarques :)
[19:27] <sense> CrazyLemon: font.ubuntu.com might do the trick as well.
[19:29] <CrazyLemon> sense thanks..but i used gnome-font-viewer and the bug/typo i thought thats font related ..well..its not :D and i'm confused now
[19:30] <sense> CrazyLemon: If you're looking for bugs and reporting and such, it has a Launchpad project at <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family>.
[19:32] <CrazyLemon> sense thanks..but like i said..after using gnome-font-viewer i dont think its font related
[19:32] <sense> ok
[19:32] <CrazyLemon> so..thanks guys...take care
[19:39] <nmarques> my skills either improved a lot or compiz has made huge advances
[19:39] <nmarques> no more todo lists
[19:41] <kenvandine> nmarques, woot
[19:41] <kenvandine> nmarques, does that mean your compiz package is current now?
[19:44] <nmarques> kenvandine, it means it builds without triggering errors/warnings :)
[19:44] <nmarques> kenvandine, there's still a long way to go
[19:44] <nmarques> work for today and tomorrow
[19:45] <nmarques> Wrote: /usr/src/packages/RPMS/x86_64/compiz-0.9.6+bzr20110929-1.x86_64.rpm
[19:46] <nmarques> exact copy of the one you are shipping :)
[19:46] <kenvandine> great
[19:46] <nmarques> the only thing missing is .desktop and .session files for GDM
[19:46] <nmarques> but that's not really an issue for now
[19:46] <kenvandine> unity provides those
[19:47] <nmarques> great
[19:47] <nmarques> now the plugins which are really easy to build