[00:49] <sluckxz> anybody messed with akonadi on 11.10 recently?  is it a lost cause now or have i borked my install?  i installed 11.10 beta 1 and upgraded from there.
[01:16] <sluckxz> akonadi's acting nice now.
[02:29] <DaemonFC> why does Amarok have so much heap memory?
[02:31] <dank> DaemonFC  As memory is consuming the amarok
[02:32] <dank> DaemonFC Look in the System MOnitor
[02:32] <DaemonFC> yeah, a lot of that is private
[02:32] <DaemonFC> and most of that is on the heap
[02:33] <DaemonFC> 400 MB of private memory for a media player is a problem
[02:33] <dank> DaemonFC No is normal
[02:33] <DaemonFC> not even Banshee chows down like that
[02:33] <DaemonFC> what could Amarok be using this for?
[02:34] <dank> DaemonFC Normal is 52, 53,
[02:34] <avihay> why can't amarok paly a simple playlist?
[02:34] <DaemonFC> it can
[02:34] <avihay> play*
[02:35] <avihay> really? it seems to decide to stop randomly at a song end every so often
[02:35] <Kimlaroux> avihay, do you have random on?
[02:36] <DaemonFC> if it's acting weird, my first question is what phonon backend you use
[02:36] <DaemonFC> the only one that reliably works is gstreamer
[02:37] <DaemonFC> xine is abandoned and vlc does not play nice with pulseaudio
[02:37] <DaemonFC> you shouldn't be using those
[02:37] <avihay> yes, but it's improbable to stop about every 40 songs on a 1000 song long play-list, and I even had repeat play-list on, or however it's called. I just moved to better players that support more formats
[03:10] <avihay> sorry DaemonFC, I just realized you were talking to me and not kim. I stopped using amarok at the 8.04 area, so I don't recall
[03:40] <Kimlaroux> Xine is abandoned? it's the only backend that actually works for both Flac and Mp3
[03:43] <Daskreech> Kimlaroux: It's getting crusty from lack of coding
[03:43] <Daskreech> Gstreamer should do FLAC
[03:57] <mase_work> gstreamer doesn't work?
[03:58] <SIR_Taco> doesn't it?
[04:07] <mase_work> that was a question...afaik  it does
[05:37] <zorael__> small note regarding gstreamer (and phonon) and FLAC; https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278432
[05:55] <Daskreech> zorael: Might be more a Amarok issue?
[05:56] <Daskreech> try Kaffiene
[06:00] <zorael> Daskreech: well one workaround is to use another phonon backend, so which part of the combination the problem exist in isn't immediately obvious, but the combination doesn't work at least
[06:08] <Daskreech> zorael: right. I'd say try Kaffiene, dragon or Juk with the same gstreamer backend and FLAC
[06:09] <Daskreech> if one (or all) work I'd probably put a lot more stock into Amarok being the issue there
[06:15] <DaemonFC> Kaffeine doesn't use phonon iirc
[06:16] <DaemonFC> it's hard coded to use Xine
[06:18] <Daskreech> Oh
[06:18] <Daskreech> well that breaks that test :)
[06:18] <Daskreech> Try Dragon then
[06:19] <Tm_T> ye Kaffeine uses directly Xine
[08:13] <paolo_> j
[09:32] <simon___> hello
[09:33] <simon___> what's the best mail manager? I have used ones in windows but I had to reload it any time
[09:34] <ikonia> simon___: try some, see what you like. Best is quite subjective
[09:35] <simon___> yes
[09:35] <simon___> ikonia
[09:36] <simon___> I meant if someone has a good experience with a good one
[09:36] <simon___> or smth
[10:27] <Zenger> Hi guys, can you please tell me how to start the "close,minimize,maximize and the title bar" , they dissapeared
[10:27] <Zenger> lol, i'm in the wrong channel :(
[10:46] <apedemak> hello?
[10:48] <apedemak> given the name of the room I am assuming that most of you are pretty handy with linux based OS. Any truth in that assumption?
[10:54] <well_laid_lawn> apedemak: there's a topic at the top of most channels you join that lets you know what happens in there
[11:11] <tobixx> Hi all, does somebody know if it is a bug or knows where to switch a setting for following annoyance: task switcher shows only taks for the actual screen on a dual screen setup (nvidia, Xinerama), but I need to switch the task on one desktop for both screens - without moving the mouse first. It's really a pain.
[11:14] <tobixx> No matter which effekt I chosse - it is the same for all. But the choosen one, "show windows", works for both screens if I use the shortcut for the effect plugin.
[11:17] <tobixx> And in the task switcher setting pane there is no switch for screens. I'm on Kubuntu 11.04
[11:27] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: What exactly is the issue ... maybe I can help
[11:28] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: I need to switch to task on an other screen too via alt-tab, but the task switcher only shows tasks for active screen
[11:30] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: ... and not the tasks for the screen which has not the focus
[11:31] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: Which version of KDE?
[11:31] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: 4.6.5
[11:32] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: On taskbar have you selected "Only show tasks from active screen"?
[11:32] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: no
[11:32] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: taskbar works normal and shows all tasks
[11:36] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: my real problem is, that I'm not mouse user, but this problem forces me to be and it really slows down my workflow
[11:36] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: Press CTRL + F10
[11:39] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: you mean the global short cut for compiz plugin "show windows" - right ? This also works as expected - all tasks shown.
[11:39] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: Err I was refering to kwin
[11:44] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: I'm not sure what you talk about, If you referring to kwin instead - which dialog do you mean and how I open it in an other way ?
[11:44] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: Do you use kwin or compiz ... KDE 4 does not use compiz by default
[11:46] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: well, I have "desktop effect" enabled - so what ever implementation is behind that, I guess compiz
[11:47] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: The desktop effects in System settings?
[11:47] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: yes, but it makes no difference if I switch them off - it is the same behavior
[11:48] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: That's kwin not compiz ... Let me check if I can reproduce this give me a sec
[11:50] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: of course, much thanks for investigating and trying to help me !
[11:53] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: the only hint I found so far is: http://rickdidit.blogspot.com/2008/09/dual-head-kubuntu-alt-tab-only-shows.html - but his does not work anymore
[12:00] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: I think you should report a bug on kde bugzilla
[12:01] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: so you can confirm this behavior ?
[12:01] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: Yes
[12:01] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: One a kde 4.6.2 system however ... can't find my vga cable to test on 4.7.1
[12:02] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: If you want to try 4.7.1 follow instructions here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7.1 and check
[12:03] <tobixx> GirlyGirl: Ok, so thanks for the try, I will try it or open a bug then. Have a nice day ! Cu
[12:05] <GirlyGirl> tobixx: You're welcome
[12:05] <kellysheroes> afternoon
[13:05] <thutomj> Hello, how is this possible. Or how can I implement this? I want to write a shell script that can change the dns alias name on windows 2008 sever from ubuntu. The idea is this, users will only know this url (http://test.example.com) to access their application. I have two servers on different subnets and will be using the test alias to access both at different times without the user noticing a change.
[13:22] <lijun> 123
[13:40] <redkey> anyone have problems with gedit opening blank page every time you open a file?
[13:41] <well_laid_lawn> redkey: either the path to the file is wrong or you have not been case sensitive
[13:41] <TheEvilPhoenix> better question...
[13:41] <TheEvilPhoenix> why "gedit" in kDE environment?
[13:41] <TheEvilPhoenix> s/kDE/KDE/
[13:41] <redkey> no no, gedit will open my file but will also open a blank page beside it.
[13:41] <well_laid_lawn> ppl have their habits...
[13:42] <redkey> I prefer gedit, it is like notepad++
[13:43] <well_laid_lawn> sounds weird - try opening a file from the command line with gedit and see if there's any output
[13:43] <well_laid_lawn> check preferences
[13:43] <Unit193> redkey: I love Notepad++, so I had to try scite. It's as close as you can get
[13:43] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:43] <redkey> been there tried that in run.  will look at scite.  thanks
[13:47] <redkey> Thank you all for the help, I will look up scite text editor, have a nice day all.
[13:50] <pwn4g3> gentlemen, is there any way to use KDE to send and receive SMS? (using UMTS modem)
[14:28] <mastershak3> having a problem with my machine not booting sometimes.  It just sits there after the Kubuntu logo and doesn't boot.  I'm on 11.04.  Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting?
[14:29] <well_laid_lawn> turn of the splash from the grub prompt
[14:29] <well_laid_lawn> so there's text on the screen to see the errors
[14:29] <well_laid_lawn> !grub
[14:46] <mastershak3> Anyone here?
[14:46] <mastershak3> having a problem with my machine not booting sometimes.  It just sits there after the Kubuntu logo and doesn't boot.  I'm on 11.04.  Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting?
[14:52] <well_laid_lawn> mastershak3: turn of the splash from the grub prompt
[15:00] <mastershak3> well_laid_lawn, how do I do that?
[15:01] <well_laid_lawn> mastershak3: at the grub prompt select the kernel you want to boot and hit the e key
[15:02] <mastershak3> can I turn it on by default?
[15:02] <well_laid_lawn> move to the kernel line and hit the e key again then go to the end and remove splash
[15:02] <well_laid_lawn> hit the b key to boot
[15:03] <mastershak3> so that will remove the splash screen and show regular boot messages?
[15:03] <well_laid_lawn> you can edit files and remove splash as the default behaviour
[15:03] <well_laid_lawn> yep it will show boot messages
[15:03] <well_laid_lawn> !grub
[15:12] <mastershak3> well_laid_lawn,  is that set quiet?
[15:13] <well_laid_lawn> quiet works for me
[15:13] <well_laid_lawn> mastershak3: ^
[15:13] <well_laid_lawn> it should have quiet splash - just remove the splash
[15:18] <mastershak3> well_laid_lawn, thanks!  Have a great weekend!
[15:18] <well_laid_lawn> cheers :)
[15:23] <Mausschubser> helolo, I have problems with KDE, it doesn't start anymore, the boot splash just hangs
[15:24] <Mausschubser> I can switch to CLI and log on, but starting kdm manually doesn't work
[15:25] <pwn4g3> really no one uses SMS in KDE?
[15:25] <Mausschubser> whats'that?
[15:25] <Mausschubser> short message service?
[15:25] <pwn4g3> thats the predecessor of ICQ and MSN
[15:26] <Mausschubser> ah, never heard of
[15:26] <pwn4g3> i mean not as olds as that paper thingy
[15:26] <pwn4g3> watcha call it, letter or something
[15:26] <Mausschubser> I see
[15:27] <Mausschubser> so, can anybody help me troubleshooting?
[15:27] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Is your video card an NVidia?
[15:28] <pwn4g3> i think escape button toggles to console outpu
[15:28] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  yes, it is
[15:28] <Mausschubser> no
[15:28] <Mausschubser> sorry, it was
[15:28] <Mausschubser> now ATI
[15:28] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Probably the xorg.conf is still set wrong
[15:29] <Mausschubser> but it all worked until I attached an external hard drive
[15:29] <Mausschubser> then there was the error message that the ext4 partition can't be mounted
[15:30] <Mausschubser> I "solved" the error message with the ubuntu guys
[15:30] <Mausschubser> so there is no error message anymore but still the problem
[15:30] <genii-around> Did the external HD have another linux install on it?
[15:30] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  no, it was empty
[15:30] <Mausschubser> NTFS
[15:30] <genii-around> OK
[15:32] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Do you have internet connectivity on that box from CLI ?
[15:32] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  yes, I do
[15:33] <devurandom> Hi! I am using 11.10 and updated kdepim today, from 4.7.1+git to 4.7.2. Since then I am being spammed with system/plasma notifications "<SERVERNAME>: No message received. The server-answer contained no data." (translated from german: "Keine Nachricht erhalten. Die Serverantwort enthielt keine Daten.".
[15:33] <devurandom> Does anyone else experience the same issue and is the problem or the solution known?
[15:33] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Perhaps then if you can do: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit    and the same with /etc/default/grub
[15:34] <genii-around> devurandom: Oneiric discussion in #ubuntu+1
[15:34] <devurandom> Ah, for Kubuntu, too?
[15:34] <genii-around> devurandom: Yes, #kubuntu+1 just goes there
[15:35] <devurandom> genii-around: thx
[15:35] <genii-around> Mausschubser: ( you may need to sudo apt-get install pastebinit first )
[15:35] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  ok, here's the first one (X11) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/703450/
[15:37] <genii-around> Mausschubser: xorg.conf looks fine
[15:40] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  and the second one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703457
[15:49] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Apologies on lag, work. Do you know when the "vga=788" line was put in your grub config file?
[15:49] <Mausschubser> genii-around: ah, you're at work? no sorry, no idea
[15:52] <genii-around> Mausschubser: OK. That mode is 16bit colour at 600x800, which should be safe so for now it can be left. When you do: lsmod| grep fglrx     ..does it show that the ATI driver is actually in use?
[15:53] <Mausschubser> genii-around: the word fglrx is shown in red
[15:53] <genii-around> OK
[15:53] <Mausschubser> and behind it there are the numbers: 2733040  0
[15:57] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Please to do: sudo rm /var/log/Xorg.0.log && sudo touch /var/log/Xorg.0.log    ... then, to try: startx      ... after it returns to command prompt, please: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[16:03] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  here you are http://paste.ubuntu.com/703468/
[16:12] <genii-around> Mausschubser: The pertinent info there seems to be "fglrx(0): Restoring Recent Mode via PCS is not supported in RANDR 1.2 capable environments"
[16:13] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  and what does this mean for me?
[16:14] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Hm. Can you please replace in xorg.conf where it reads: Driver	"fglrx"      to be: Driver	"radeon"              and then attempt startx
[16:16] <Peace-> genii-around: :P hi
[16:18] <genii-around> Mausschubser: eg: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ... make the changes, ctrl-X to exit, confirm save
[16:19]  * genii-around slides Peace- a tasty Kubuntu mug of coffee
[16:20] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  done
[16:21] <Mausschubser> hmm
[16:21] <Mausschubser> the screen seems to be black- I think I will reboot
[16:22] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Give it a minute or so first
[16:22] <Mausschubser> ok
[16:23] <genii-around> Mausschubser: If after a minute no start, switch the monitor cord to second output from video card and see if the signal is going there instead. If no signal on both heads, try ctrl-alt-f2 to see if tty2 can be accessed
[16:25] <genii-around> Mausschubser: May also want to try cycling through ctrl-alt-f2 through ctrl-alt-f8  to see if it's showing on one of the other tty
[16:25] <genii-around> ( usually f7 or f8 )
[16:30]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[16:33] <NathanaelG> Hi all. Is there someone from the uk?
[16:33] <bazhang> !uk | NathanaelG
[16:36] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  no, nothing
[16:36] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Damn. This one is a real puzzler.
[16:37] <Mausschubser> rebooting
[16:40] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  and back with the old boot splash
[16:41] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Hopefully it gets to login screen using radeon driver
[16:45] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  doesn't seem so
[16:45] <Mausschubser> I still have the same picture
[16:46] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  I would set my system up again but before I would need to save my data
[16:47] <Mausschubser> to my external disk
[16:47] <Mausschubser> is ist true that NTFS is not preferred for backups?
[16:49] <genii-around> Mausschubser: That is correct... NTFS cannot save the linux file properties like owner and group for instance
[16:49] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  is this important when having a new, clean system?
[16:50] <Mausschubser> I didn't understand yet where the advantages of these features are
[16:50] <genii-around> It is never NOT important
[16:51] <genii-around> Mausschubser: eg: you save all of /home/username to ntfs, restore it afterwards... user cannot login because they do not now own the stuff in their own directory
[16:52] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  ok, but what about restoring it step by step, or file by file?
[16:55] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Same principle applies. If you want to backup stuff and keep permissions intact, do something like: sudo tar -cvzf archive-filename.tar.gz /directory-name-to-backup     ...and then copy the archive over. Later you can un-tar it where it's supposed to go, the permissions of the files inside will still be how they are supposed to be
[16:58] <Mausschubser> genii-around: I see
[16:59] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  ok, I will try to get my system back running. Thank you very much for your help
[16:59] <genii-around> Mausschubser: Sorry we could not resolve your issue
[17:03] <Mausschubser> genii-around:  no problem, you're not the first one who tried to...
[17:11] <redkey> Question: I am having problems with "gedit", everytime I open a file I get a blank tab next to the open file, 6 opened files tabs there will be 6 blank tabs.  "gedit has worked perfect through every single Linux-Mint versions on a kde desktop setup, when I switched to Kubuntu within the last 5-days I ran into this problem with "gedit".  Any solutions?
[17:15] <Peace-> redkey: ? use kate
[17:15] <Peace-> redkey: how cares about g-stuff here ?
[17:15] <Peace-> kate >>> gedit
[17:15]  * OerHeks has the same thought
[17:15] <redkey> Peace: I need tabs, lots of tabs.
[17:15] <Peace-> redkey: you can get tabs into kate too
[17:16] <Peace-> kate is the most powerfull text editor , you can eve use vi mode.
[17:16] <Peace-> even
[17:16] <redkey> Yeah, but the tabs do not work the same as in gedit or like in notepad++.
[17:18] <Peace-> redkey: have you tried to configure kate ?
[17:18] <redkey> I am taking a closer look at "kate" right now, am in configure now.
[17:26] <redkey> Peace: I found the "tab-bar", there is no right click for options on each tab, or is there?
[17:27] <Peace-> redkey: i have this one
[17:27] <Peace-> redkey: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/06/plasma-desktopjo1550.jpg
[17:28] <Peace-> i dunno if is what you want but...
[17:30] <Peace-> redkey: enabled with this http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/06/plasma-desktopxm1550.jpg
[17:36] <redkey> Peace: Thank you for your bother, I will play with "kate" for a day or two, but I just might have to return to Linux-Mint, for some reason "gedit" works best in that OS.
[17:38] <redkey> Peace: I am sure "kate" has exactly what I need, just I am impatient and with lots of work piling up.
[17:38] <Peace-> redkey: run gedit
[17:38] <Peace-> redkey: on konsole
[17:41] <g0rs> redkey: kate and gedit are both good. I prefer kate though
[17:41] <redkey> Peace: same results from Konsole, for every file opened, one extra blank page opens with it.  This never happened in Linux-Mint.  I even killed Kubuntu and reinstalled Linux-Mint and gedit was normal running, returned to kubuntu and back to the current problem.
[17:42] <Peace-> redkey: kdesudo gedit
[17:42] <Peace-> i knwo it's strange
[17:42] <Peace-> but i want test it
[17:42] <g0rs> redkey: you might try emacs too
[17:43] <Peace-> g0rs: looks like an old gedit user .. anyother stuff will not work for him
[17:43] <Peace-> habit is a dangerous stuff :)
[17:44] <g0rs> Peace-: gedit looks somewhat older, emacs is pretty standard. Kate is rather new with featues like syntax highlighting. Vi is for real techies :)
[17:44] <redkey> Peace: kdesudo same effect.  Preference is a gem, you are experienced in the app and not time gets wasted.
[17:44] <g0rs> Peace-: any tool is good as long its works. It doesn't matter what it is.
[17:47] <redkey> Peace: for now I can work with "kate", with the save button over the tabs will have to do, just wish "save" was in the right click drop down menu on each tab.
[17:48] <Peace-> redkey: try to delete gedit configuration files
[17:48] <Peace-> i guess they are on $HOME/.gnome
[17:50] <redkey> Peace:  I have purged gedit several time, installed from konsole, installed from  synaptic, from  muon, and I even tried a tarball but could not get the tarball to install.
[17:52] <Peace-> redkey: if you have no time go in linux mint and use gedit
[17:52] <Peace-> i have no solution for that software cuz i don't use g-stuff
[17:53] <redkey> Peace: like I said, an install of "gedit" from within Linux-Mint there were no problems, I think that is my problem solver.
[17:53] <g0rs> redkey: you might have to install gnome specific graphic libraries inorder for that to work ?!
[17:54] <redkey> Peace: If that is so about the gnome graphic libraries, then Linux-Mint must auto install that stuff when I sudo install gedit from konsole.
[18:50] <g0rs> Peace-: can i pm you?
[18:52] <phoenix_firebrd> hi
[18:52] <g0rs> phoenix_firebrd: hi
[18:52] <GirlyGirl> phoenix_firebrd: Hi
[18:52] <phoenix_firebrd> GirlyGirl: hi
[20:04] <natacus> hey, anyone know when Kubuntu 11.10 is officially released?
[20:05] <rork> in 5 days
[20:05] <natacus> oo sweet, its usuually end of the month
[20:07] <PaulW2U> natacus: Kubuntu will be released next Thursday, that is 13th October
[20:07] <natacus> thank PaulW2U have you tried out the beta?
[20:08] <PaulW2U> Yes, its very good, have been using it for several months
[20:08] <natacus> cool! using 11.04 now, find it very stable
[20:10] <avihay> if only there weren't so many bugs...
[20:20] <dockhorn> hi, i just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and my sound is now really quiet...  anyone have suggestions on what to look at?
[20:35] <darthanubis> dockhorn: the volume?
[21:21] <HaDAk> there's a big chance that i'm just an idiot here, but... i just upgraded kde to 4.7.1, and now my alt+f2 doesn't work. i can't seem to find any place where the shortcut is mentioned in the system preferences. any hints?
[21:25] <HaDAk> nevermind that... i found the setting. it's still set to alt+f2, but it doesn't pop up the run dialog.
[21:45] <sithlord48> what is the correct path to install my program? (will be installing via ppa) it requires some files with it and i feel installing to /usr/bin/<folder> is not the correct path.