[00:49] anybody messed with akonadi on 11.10 recently? is it a lost cause now or have i borked my install? i installed 11.10 beta 1 and upgraded from there. [01:16] akonadi's acting nice now. === avihay_ is now known as avihay__ === avihay__ is now known as avihay_ === avihay_ is now known as avihay === root is now known as Guest85624 [02:29] why does Amarok have so much heap memory? [02:31] DaemonFC As memory is consuming the amarok [02:32] DaemonFC Look in the System MOnitor [02:32] yeah, a lot of that is private [02:32] and most of that is on the heap [02:33] 400 MB of private memory for a media player is a problem [02:33] DaemonFC No is normal [02:33] not even Banshee chows down like that [02:33] what could Amarok be using this for? [02:34] DaemonFC Normal is 52, 53, [02:34] why can't amarok paly a simple playlist? [02:34] it can [02:34] play* [02:35] really? it seems to decide to stop randomly at a song end every so often [02:35] avihay, do you have random on? [02:36] if it's acting weird, my first question is what phonon backend you use [02:36] the only one that reliably works is gstreamer [02:37] xine is abandoned and vlc does not play nice with pulseaudio [02:37] you shouldn't be using those [02:37] yes, but it's improbable to stop about every 40 songs on a 1000 song long play-list, and I even had repeat play-list on, or however it's called. I just moved to better players that support more formats [03:10] sorry DaemonFC, I just realized you were talking to me and not kim. I stopped using amarok at the 8.04 area, so I don't recall === johnny is now known as Guest83094 [03:40] Xine is abandoned? it's the only backend that actually works for both Flac and Mp3 [03:43] Kimlaroux: It's getting crusty from lack of coding [03:43] Gstreamer should do FLAC [03:57] gstreamer doesn't work? [03:58] doesn't it? [04:07] that was a question...afaik it does [05:37] small note regarding gstreamer (and phonon) and FLAC; https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278432 [05:37] KDE bug 278432 in general "Amarok only plays every other FLAC track when using the GStreamer Phonon backend" [Normal,New] === zorael__ is now known as zorael [05:55] zorael: Might be more a Amarok issue? [05:56] try Kaffiene [06:00] Daskreech: well one workaround is to use another phonon backend, so which part of the combination the problem exist in isn't immediately obvious, but the combination doesn't work at least [06:08] zorael: right. I'd say try Kaffiene, dragon or Juk with the same gstreamer backend and FLAC [06:09] if one (or all) work I'd probably put a lot more stock into Amarok being the issue there [06:15] Kaffeine doesn't use phonon iirc [06:16] it's hard coded to use Xine [06:18] Oh [06:18] well that breaks that test :) [06:18] Try Dragon then [06:19] ye Kaffeine uses directly Xine === GirlyGIrl_ is now known as GirlyGirl === 52AAAFB8P is now known as honik === af_ is now known as Guest14820 === coaboa|afk is now known as coaboa === Doc_Savage96__ is now known as Doc_Savage96_ === Doc_Savage96_ is now known as Doc_Savage96 [08:13] j [09:32] hello [09:33] what's the best mail manager? I have used ones in windows but I had to reload it any time [09:34] simon___: try some, see what you like. Best is quite subjective [09:35] yes [09:35] ikonia [09:36] I meant if someone has a good experience with a good one [09:36] or smth === german is now known as german__ === german__ is now known as german [10:27] Hi guys, can you please tell me how to start the "close,minimize,maximize and the title bar" , they dissapeared [10:27] lol, i'm in the wrong channel :( === reese_ is now known as Guest60309 [10:46] hello? [10:48] given the name of the room I am assuming that most of you are pretty handy with linux based OS. Any truth in that assumption? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [10:54] apedemak: there's a topic at the top of most channels you join that lets you know what happens in there === reese_ is now known as Guest28886 [11:11] Hi all, does somebody know if it is a bug or knows where to switch a setting for following annoyance: task switcher shows only taks for the actual screen on a dual screen setup (nvidia, Xinerama), but I need to switch the task on one desktop for both screens - without moving the mouse first. It's really a pain. [11:14] No matter which effekt I chosse - it is the same for all. But the choosen one, "show windows", works for both screens if I use the shortcut for the effect plugin. [11:17] And in the task switcher setting pane there is no switch for screens. I'm on Kubuntu 11.04 [11:27] tobixx: What exactly is the issue ... maybe I can help [11:28] GirlyGirl: I need to switch to task on an other screen too via alt-tab, but the task switcher only shows tasks for active screen [11:30] GirlyGirl: ... and not the tasks for the screen which has not the focus [11:31] tobixx: Which version of KDE? [11:31] GirlyGirl: 4.6.5 [11:32] tobixx: On taskbar have you selected "Only show tasks from active screen"? [11:32] GirlyGirl: no [11:32] GirlyGirl: taskbar works normal and shows all tasks [11:36] GirlyGirl: my real problem is, that I'm not mouse user, but this problem forces me to be and it really slows down my workflow [11:36] tobixx: Press CTRL + F10 [11:39] GirlyGirl: you mean the global short cut for compiz plugin "show windows" - right ? This also works as expected - all tasks shown. [11:39] tobixx: Err I was refering to kwin [11:44] GirlyGirl: I'm not sure what you talk about, If you referring to kwin instead - which dialog do you mean and how I open it in an other way ? [11:44] tobixx: Do you use kwin or compiz ... KDE 4 does not use compiz by default [11:46] GirlyGirl: well, I have "desktop effect" enabled - so what ever implementation is behind that, I guess compiz [11:47] tobixx: The desktop effects in System settings? [11:47] GirlyGirl: yes, but it makes no difference if I switch them off - it is the same behavior [11:48] tobixx: That's kwin not compiz ... Let me check if I can reproduce this give me a sec [11:50] GirlyGirl: of course, much thanks for investigating and trying to help me ! [11:53] GirlyGirl: the only hint I found so far is: http://rickdidit.blogspot.com/2008/09/dual-head-kubuntu-alt-tab-only-shows.html - but his does not work anymore [12:00] tobixx: I think you should report a bug on kde bugzilla [12:01] GirlyGirl: so you can confirm this behavior ? [12:01] tobixx: Yes [12:01] tobixx: One a kde 4.6.2 system however ... can't find my vga cable to test on 4.7.1 [12:02] tobixx: If you want to try 4.7.1 follow instructions here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7.1 and check [12:03] GirlyGirl: Ok, so thanks for the try, I will try it or open a bug then. Have a nice day ! Cu === jtheuer_ is now known as jtheuer [12:05] tobixx: You're welcome [12:05] afternoon === yofel_ is now known as yofel === nolden is now known as zwabel [13:05] Hello, how is this possible. Or how can I implement this? I want to write a shell script that can change the dns alias name on windows 2008 sever from ubuntu. The idea is this, users will only know this url (http://test.example.com) to access their application. I have two servers on different subnets and will be using the test alias to access both at different times without the user noticing a change. [13:22] 123 [13:40] anyone have problems with gedit opening blank page every time you open a file? [13:41] redkey: either the path to the file is wrong or you have not been case sensitive [13:41] better question... [13:41] why "gedit" in kDE environment? [13:41] s/kDE/KDE/ [13:41] no no, gedit will open my file but will also open a blank page beside it. [13:41] ppl have their habits... [13:42] I prefer gedit, it is like notepad++ [13:43] sounds weird - try opening a file from the command line with gedit and see if there's any output [13:43] check preferences [13:43] redkey: I love Notepad++, so I had to try scite. It's as close as you can get [13:43] hiyas all [13:43] been there tried that in run. will look at scite. thanks [13:47] Thank you all for the help, I will look up scite text editor, have a nice day all. [13:50] gentlemen, is there any way to use KDE to send and receive SMS? (using UMTS modem) === km is now known as Guest31478 === elepage is now known as Elv1313 === miku is now known as Guest51618 [14:28] having a problem with my machine not booting sometimes. It just sits there after the Kubuntu logo and doesn't boot. I'm on 11.04. Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting? [14:29] turn of the splash from the grub prompt [14:29] so there's text on the screen to see the errors [14:29] !grub [14:29] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) === skygirl_76 is now known as skygirl_76ddd666 [14:46] Anyone here? [14:46] having a problem with my machine not booting sometimes. It just sits there after the Kubuntu logo and doesn't boot. I'm on 11.04. Any ideas on where to start troubleshooting? [14:52] mastershak3: turn of the splash from the grub prompt [15:00] well_laid_lawn, how do I do that? [15:01] mastershak3: at the grub prompt select the kernel you want to boot and hit the e key [15:02] can I turn it on by default? [15:02] move to the kernel line and hit the e key again then go to the end and remove splash [15:02] hit the b key to boot [15:03] so that will remove the splash screen and show regular boot messages? [15:03] you can edit files and remove splash as the default behaviour [15:03] yep it will show boot messages [15:03] !grub [15:03] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [15:12] well_laid_lawn, is that set quiet? [15:13] quiet works for me [15:13] mastershak3: ^ [15:13] it should have quiet splash - just remove the splash [15:18] well_laid_lawn, thanks! Have a great weekend! [15:18] cheers :) [15:23] helolo, I have problems with KDE, it doesn't start anymore, the boot splash just hangs [15:24] I can switch to CLI and log on, but starting kdm manually doesn't work [15:25] really no one uses SMS in KDE? [15:25] whats'that? [15:25] short message service? [15:25] thats the predecessor of ICQ and MSN [15:26] ah, never heard of [15:26] i mean not as olds as that paper thingy [15:26] watcha call it, letter or something [15:26] I see [15:27] so, can anybody help me troubleshooting? [15:27] Mausschubser: Is your video card an NVidia? [15:28] i think escape button toggles to console outpu [15:28] genii-around: yes, it is [15:28] no [15:28] sorry, it was [15:28] now ATI [15:28] Mausschubser: Probably the xorg.conf is still set wrong [15:29] but it all worked until I attached an external hard drive [15:29] then there was the error message that the ext4 partition can't be mounted [15:30] I "solved" the error message with the ubuntu guys [15:30] so there is no error message anymore but still the problem [15:30] Did the external HD have another linux install on it? [15:30] genii-around: no, it was empty [15:30] NTFS [15:30] OK [15:32] Mausschubser: Do you have internet connectivity on that box from CLI ? [15:32] genii-around: yes, I do [15:33] Hi! I am using 11.10 and updated kdepim today, from 4.7.1+git to 4.7.2. Since then I am being spammed with system/plasma notifications ": No message received. The server-answer contained no data." (translated from german: "Keine Nachricht erhalten. Die Serverantwort enthielt keine Daten.". [15:33] Does anyone else experience the same issue and is the problem or the solution known? [15:33] Mausschubser: Perhaps then if you can do: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit and the same with /etc/default/grub [15:34] devurandom: Oneiric discussion in #ubuntu+1 [15:34] Ah, for Kubuntu, too? [15:34] devurandom: Yes, #kubuntu+1 just goes there [15:35] genii-around: thx [15:35] Mausschubser: ( you may need to sudo apt-get install pastebinit first ) [15:35] genii-around: ok, here's the first one (X11) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/703450/ [15:37] Mausschubser: xorg.conf looks fine === kellysheroes is now known as gnv [15:40] genii-around: and the second one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703457 [15:49] Mausschubser: Apologies on lag, work. Do you know when the "vga=788" line was put in your grub config file? [15:49] genii-around: ah, you're at work? no sorry, no idea [15:52] Mausschubser: OK. That mode is 16bit colour at 600x800, which should be safe so for now it can be left. When you do: lsmod| grep fglrx ..does it show that the ATI driver is actually in use? [15:53] genii-around: the word fglrx is shown in red [15:53] OK [15:53] and behind it there are the numbers: 2733040 0 [15:57] Mausschubser: Please to do: sudo rm /var/log/Xorg.0.log && sudo touch /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... then, to try: startx ... after it returns to command prompt, please: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit [16:03] genii-around: here you are http://paste.ubuntu.com/703468/ === allee_ is now known as allee [16:12] Mausschubser: The pertinent info there seems to be "fglrx(0): Restoring Recent Mode via PCS is not supported in RANDR 1.2 capable environments" [16:13] genii-around: and what does this mean for me? [16:14] Mausschubser: Hm. Can you please replace in xorg.conf where it reads: Driver "fglrx" to be: Driver "radeon" and then attempt startx [16:16] genii-around: :P hi [16:18] Mausschubser: eg: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... make the changes, ctrl-X to exit, confirm save [16:19] * genii-around slides Peace- a tasty Kubuntu mug of coffee [16:20] genii-around: done [16:21] hmm [16:21] the screen seems to be black- I think I will reboot [16:22] Mausschubser: Give it a minute or so first [16:22] ok [16:23] Mausschubser: If after a minute no start, switch the monitor cord to second output from video card and see if the signal is going there instead. If no signal on both heads, try ctrl-alt-f2 to see if tty2 can be accessed [16:25] Mausschubser: May also want to try cycling through ctrl-alt-f2 through ctrl-alt-f8 to see if it's showing on one of the other tty [16:25] ( usually f7 or f8 ) [16:30] * genii-around makes more coffee [16:33] Hi all. Is there someone from the uk? [16:33] !uk | NathanaelG [16:33] NathanaelG: Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk [16:36] genii-around: no, nothing [16:36] Mausschubser: Damn. This one is a real puzzler. [16:37] rebooting [16:40] genii-around: and back with the old boot splash [16:41] Mausschubser: Hopefully it gets to login screen using radeon driver [16:45] genii-around: doesn't seem so [16:45] I still have the same picture [16:46] genii-around: I would set my system up again but before I would need to save my data [16:47] to my external disk [16:47] is ist true that NTFS is not preferred for backups? [16:49] Mausschubser: That is correct... NTFS cannot save the linux file properties like owner and group for instance [16:49] genii-around: is this important when having a new, clean system? [16:50] I didn't understand yet where the advantages of these features are [16:50] It is never NOT important [16:51] Mausschubser: eg: you save all of /home/username to ntfs, restore it afterwards... user cannot login because they do not now own the stuff in their own directory [16:52] genii-around: ok, but what about restoring it step by step, or file by file? [16:55] Mausschubser: Same principle applies. If you want to backup stuff and keep permissions intact, do something like: sudo tar -cvzf archive-filename.tar.gz /directory-name-to-backup ...and then copy the archive over. Later you can un-tar it where it's supposed to go, the permissions of the files inside will still be how they are supposed to be === DanTonk is now known as DanTonk_afk [16:58] genii-around: I see [16:59] genii-around: ok, I will try to get my system back running. Thank you very much for your help [16:59] Mausschubser: Sorry we could not resolve your issue [17:03] genii-around: no problem, you're not the first one who tried to... [17:11] Question: I am having problems with "gedit", everytime I open a file I get a blank tab next to the open file, 6 opened files tabs there will be 6 blank tabs. "gedit has worked perfect through every single Linux-Mint versions on a kde desktop setup, when I switched to Kubuntu within the last 5-days I ran into this problem with "gedit". Any solutions? [17:15] redkey: ? use kate [17:15] redkey: how cares about g-stuff here ? [17:15] kate >>> gedit [17:15] * OerHeks has the same thought [17:15] Peace: I need tabs, lots of tabs. [17:15] redkey: you can get tabs into kate too [17:16] kate is the most powerfull text editor , you can eve use vi mode. [17:16] even [17:16] Yeah, but the tabs do not work the same as in gedit or like in notepad++. [17:18] redkey: have you tried to configure kate ? [17:18] I am taking a closer look at "kate" right now, am in configure now. [17:26] Peace: I found the "tab-bar", there is no right click for options on each tab, or is there? [17:27] redkey: i have this one [17:27] redkey: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/06/plasma-desktopjo1550.jpg [17:28] i dunno if is what you want but... [17:30] redkey: enabled with this http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/06/plasma-desktopxm1550.jpg [17:36] Peace: Thank you for your bother, I will play with "kate" for a day or two, but I just might have to return to Linux-Mint, for some reason "gedit" works best in that OS. [17:38] Peace: I am sure "kate" has exactly what I need, just I am impatient and with lots of work piling up. [17:38] redkey: run gedit [17:38] redkey: on konsole [17:41] redkey: kate and gedit are both good. I prefer kate though [17:41] Peace: same results from Konsole, for every file opened, one extra blank page opens with it. This never happened in Linux-Mint. I even killed Kubuntu and reinstalled Linux-Mint and gedit was normal running, returned to kubuntu and back to the current problem. [17:42] redkey: kdesudo gedit [17:42] i knwo it's strange [17:42] but i want test it [17:42] redkey: you might try emacs too [17:43] g0rs: looks like an old gedit user .. anyother stuff will not work for him [17:43] habit is a dangerous stuff :) [17:44] Peace-: gedit looks somewhat older, emacs is pretty standard. Kate is rather new with featues like syntax highlighting. Vi is for real techies :) [17:44] Peace: kdesudo same effect. Preference is a gem, you are experienced in the app and not time gets wasted. [17:44] Peace-: any tool is good as long its works. It doesn't matter what it is. [17:47] Peace: for now I can work with "kate", with the save button over the tabs will have to do, just wish "save" was in the right click drop down menu on each tab. [17:48] redkey: try to delete gedit configuration files [17:48] i guess they are on $HOME/.gnome [17:50] Peace: I have purged gedit several time, installed from konsole, installed from synaptic, from muon, and I even tried a tarball but could not get the tarball to install. [17:52] redkey: if you have no time go in linux mint and use gedit [17:52] i have no solution for that software cuz i don't use g-stuff [17:53] Peace: like I said, an install of "gedit" from within Linux-Mint there were no problems, I think that is my problem solver. [17:53] redkey: you might have to install gnome specific graphic libraries inorder for that to work ?! [17:54] Peace: If that is so about the gnome graphic libraries, then Linux-Mint must auto install that stuff when I sudo install gedit from konsole. [18:50] Peace-: can i pm you? [18:52] hi [18:52] phoenix_firebrd: hi [18:52] phoenix_firebrd: Hi [18:52] GirlyGirl: hi === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [20:04] hey, anyone know when Kubuntu 11.10 is officially released? [20:05] in 5 days [20:05] oo sweet, its usuually end of the month [20:07] natacus: Kubuntu will be released next Thursday, that is 13th October [20:07] thank PaulW2U have you tried out the beta? [20:08] Yes, its very good, have been using it for several months [20:08] cool! using 11.04 now, find it very stable [20:10] if only there weren't so many bugs... === xenoxaos_ is now known as xenoxaos [20:20] hi, i just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and my sound is now really quiet... anyone have suggestions on what to look at? [20:35] dockhorn: the volume? [21:21] there's a big chance that i'm just an idiot here, but... i just upgraded kde to 4.7.1, and now my alt+f2 doesn't work. i can't seem to find any place where the shortcut is mentioned in the system preferences. any hints? [21:25] nevermind that... i found the setting. it's still set to alt+f2, but it doesn't pop up the run dialog. [21:45] what is the correct path to install my program? (will be installing via ppa) it requires some files with it and i feel installing to /usr/bin/ is not the correct path. === Linkmaster is now known as Crash_Override === Crash_Override is now known as Linkmaster === jan__ is now known as Janneman === ceco is now known as vyrgozunq === vyrgozunq is now known as vyrgozunqk === mgagne is now known as wftl