[00:02] <WADS> Pici: being on limited bandwidth (425 MBs per rolling 24 hours..) I might as well wait
[00:25] <cccangel> :) yeah the ubuntu team has been doing a great job.  i have been following ubuntu ever since 5.x and they made vast improvement over the last 6 years
[00:26] <WADS> I wonder if the LTS versions is going to ditch FireFox 3 when it's no longer supported?
[00:26] <WADS> is/are..
[02:21] <terry> I have to use i915.modeset=0 to login. Otherwise I get a black screen in Oneiric
[02:22] <terry> Are there any other grub modifications that I might try?
[02:28] <terry> I cannot get 3d support with I915 intel in either gnome-shell or unity.  I have to edit grub with I915,nodeset=0 to login
[02:29] <terry> Are there any work arounds?
[02:31] <terry> @jbicha I bet Bruce Harrington would know
[02:33] <robin0800> terry, I recon google might know
[02:33] <Stanley00> terry: ah, try edit /etc/default/grub, add nodeset=0 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[02:35] <terry> I am trying not to use modeset=0 to get 3d support.  I had 3d before Onieric
[02:36] <terry> I am thinking a xorg intel update needs to be done for I915 to work in Oneiric?
[02:41] <wxl> i'll be honest.. i'm coming here trying to get help with lubuntu but figure there are enough similaries.. so i've got a powerbook g4 ppc i'm trying to fit ocelot on via the alternate cd (there's something borked about ubiquity on the desktop that i can't fix) and all is fine and well.. until it goes to detect the cdrom. i can't even find it in the device tree. seen some suggestion of using modprobe ide-scsi but this module doesn't exist. any ideas?
[02:42] <johnjohn101> i have beta with all the latest updates and was wondering how much more is going to be added to this in the next two weeks.  This system is sweet
[02:43] <bazhang> well a week
[02:48] <johnjohn101> yeah a week then on to 12.04.   any news about that release yet?
[02:48] <bazhang> !pangolin
[02:49] <johnjohn101> what is a panolin?    i guess it's going to a LTS correct?
[02:49] <bazhang> lts yes
[02:49] <bazhang> similar to an anteater
[02:50] <johnjohn101> i'd like to see more indicators for unity.  i guess they're coming as well?
[02:50] <bazhang> certainly
[02:50] <jbicha> bugeater
[02:50] <jbicha> :)
[02:50] <johnjohn101> good work on this.  i've noticed a ton of improvement in the last few weeks
[02:50] <bazhang> heh
[02:52] <johnjohn101> nasty looking booger
[02:53] <robin0800> johnjohn101, there are loads of indicators have a look at ask ubuntu
[02:53] <johnjohn101> you mean #ubuntu?
[02:54] <bazhang> askubuntu.com
[02:54] <johnjohn101> ok, i'll take a look
[02:54] <johnjohn101> i see screen savers going away as well.  even in kde.  not sure why
[03:23] <cccangel> ok i have a proposition. can we get the top panel to be transparent ALWAYS instead of when you click the ubuntu logo?
[03:23] <cccangel> it would make consistency
[03:28] <cccangel> any way i can post this to the dev team? :/
[03:29] <pangolin> file a bug and in the description put WISH
[03:29] <pangolin> !bug
[03:30] <pangolin> but it won't be changed for the upcoming release.
[03:30] <cccangel> just a theme that does it would suffice
[03:31] <cccangel> but itd be cool to have an official built in way to do it
[03:31] <cccangel> :)
[03:44] <freedom07> 1 week to go
[04:33] <scar3crow> what is the command to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 from the console?
[05:34] <Lynoure> Seems that when I suspend my laptop with external monitor connected, neither internal nor external monitor wake up.
[05:37] <popsch_> will there be a releasecandidate iso image for oneiric?
[06:42] <Flynsarmy1> RC comes out in 3 days correct?
[06:44] <Flynsarmy1> Ooh, RC today according to the release schedule :)
[06:58] <Guest64478> how do i add a custom application to the unity menu?
[07:39] <Lynoure> Sometimes in Kubuntu my mousepointer becomes this weird vertical bar.
[07:48] <iceroot> anyone have problems with the message-indicator on lxde 11.10 like strange white-spaces in the systray. seems only to happen when also "ubuntu-desktop" is installed. but before creating a bug i want to see if i am the only one with that issue
[08:28] <tasslehoff> if I go from 11.04 to 11.10 using apt now, I will practically get the release candidate?
[08:31] <iceroot> tasslehoff: you will get the newest version from 11.10. if the rc is released now you will get it
[08:32] <iceroot> tasslehoff: also you will get the final version when it is released using apt-get dist-upgrade on your current 11.10 installation
[08:35] <AlecTaylor> hi
[08:35] <AlecTaylor> Arghh, crashes during presentation! - FOO LINUX
[08:40] <vega-> you are making presentation with unreleased version?
[08:41] <jbicha> there is no release candidate
[08:42] <jbicha> we are in the RC phase now, but there won't be a big RC release like the beta releases
[08:52] <Ian_Corne> no iso?
[08:54] <cebalrai> my syslog is full of: [ 1943.885946] init: ttyS1 main process (10509) terminated with status 1 [ 1943.885976] init: ttyS1 main process ended, respawning
[08:54] <cebalrai> same thing for ttyS0
[08:55] <cebalrai> I doubt it is related, but I'm also having trouble mount volumes from my nfs server... which is giving me: "nfsd: too many open  connections, consider increasing the number of threads."
[09:11] <melvincv> How stable is Ubuntu 11.10 at this time?
[09:15] <ikonia> not production stable
[09:20] <melvincv> What does production stable mean?
[09:38] <jo-erlend> why did I suddenly loose my flashplayer without being given a new one?
[09:39] <iceroot> jo-erlend: during update from 11.04 to 11.10?
[09:40] <jo-erlend> no, I just installed upgrades for 11.10.
[09:41] <iceroot> jo-erlend: i had the same problem, in the apt-get logs i found that the package flashplugin-downloader cant resolv an address while downloading
[09:41] <iceroot> jo-erlend: i already created a bug against this issue
[10:01] <jo-erlend> iceroot, if I install it from their site, then how will that affect the one from the package manager?
[10:01] <iceroot> jo-erlend: there is no flash from package-manager. there is only a script in the package-manager for downloading flash
[10:02] <iceroot> jo-erlend: because its not allowed do deliver flash within a linux-distribution
[10:02] <jo-erlend> oh, ok. But I mean, normally the package manager would handle this for me, right?
[10:02] <iceroot> jo-erlend: correct
[10:02] <jo-erlend> I mean future upgrades to flash. How is that affected if I install it manually?
[10:03] <iceroot> jo-erlend: dont install it by hand
[10:03] <jo-erlend> why?
[10:03] <iceroot> jo-erlend: because of that reason
[10:03] <iceroot> jo-erlend: always use the package-manager
[10:03] <jo-erlend> no, I need to use flash. But it doesn't handle upgrades?
[10:05] <jo-erlend> I don't understand why it was uninstalled without any new ones available. I reinstalled flashplugin-downloader and it installed the old version fine, it seems.. Doesn't work though.
[10:10] <jo-erlend> iceroot, how do  I install it? Do I need to copy the .so-file, or what? Because I'm not really in the mood to reinstall Ubuntu right now, but I do need to use flash.
[10:16] <jo-erlend> This was a really bad timing for such a bug... :(
[10:18] <jo-erlend> I haven't done this in years. I think the last time I did it was in dapper or something.
[10:19] <jo-erlend> ... and then there were no ubufox. I don't know how that works. Hmm. Perhaps a guest session will work?
[10:27] <jo-erlend> hmm. Simply replacing /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflash.so with the new one from their site worked.
[11:22] <MrZepeda> Yesterday my camera (built in iSight) was working flawlessly. After I ran some upgrades it doesn't work! Is this related to uvcvideo and the new kernel?
[11:24] <MrZepeda> Also although the microphone works good locally, it doesn't work well with skype.
[11:26] <iceroot> jo-erlend: just reinstall the package "flashplugin-downloader"
[11:27] <MrZepeda> hmmm... ok
[11:29] <jo-erlend> iceroot, no, that didn't seem to work.
[11:30] <iceroot> jo-erlend: any errors?
[11:30] <iceroot> jo-erlend: there should be a process which is downloading flash
[11:30] <jo-erlend> iceroot, none. The .so file ended up in the right directory, but Firefox didn't use it.
[11:30] <iceroot> jo-erlend: firefox needs a restart for that
[11:30] <jo-erlend> I know.
[11:31] <iceroot> jo-erlend: hm strange
[11:31] <jo-erlend> another fellow mentioned the same. Probably a new version of Firefox that isn't compatible with the version of the flashplugin, or something?
[11:37] <saulotoledo> Hello! How can I remove the error sound at gnome-terminal when I try complete commands with <TAB> key? It's annoying hear that sound any time I press <TAB>
[11:37] <saulotoledo> And what package have flashplayer nonfree to ubuntu+1? I always receive "No candidate version" at install
[11:40] <arand> saulotoledo: I think you mute alert volume in sound prefs, and it's called flashplugin-installer, iirc
[11:41] <saulotoledo> arand: flashplugin installer only installs 32bit version, correct?
[11:41] <arand> Not sure
[11:43] <saulotoledo> arand: Worked for alert, thanks! Anyway now I think will not appear when I need too xD     But for now is much better!
[11:47] <maxb> OK, what's happened to the "show unity when mousing into top corner" feature in oneiric?
[12:09] <michal_s> hello there, sory for asking about updates, but I have limited internet access today. Some time ago (few days) I have built PC for flower shop with oneiric onboard (there is Sandy Bridge CPU in this PC, so I decided to use Beta 2 instead of stable 11.04). There was a problem in oneric with suspend/hibernation mode (power-manager settings was ignored). Screensaver issue (setting "Never" option causes
[12:09] <michal_s> screensaver to start immediately) was related to the same bug. Was this bug patched in the last 3 days?
[12:12] <saulotoledo> How can I edit file associations into Gnome3?
[12:12] <Stanley00> michal_s: that bug is stills there, I'm afraid...
[12:13] <scar3crow> I have no sound... help?
[12:13] <Stanley00> saulotoledo: right click, open with... ?
[12:13] <michal_s> Stanley00: thanx for info. Is there some kind of hack to go around this bug?
[12:13] <Stanley00> michal_s: I dont know, it's out of my ability. ;)
[12:13] <michal_s> Stanley00: ok, thanx once again
[12:13] <Stanley00> michal_s: mp ;)
[12:14] <Stanley00> *np* ;))
[12:15] <saulotoledo> Stanley00: I want 2 things with this. In this window I have 7 wine, 3 banshee, 2 epiphany and tens of duplicates. I want remove this duplicates. The second whing is I have a lot of file associations I want change, doing one by one it's difficult...
[12:16] <Ian_Corne> michal_s: my computer doesn't suspend/hibernate anymore
[12:17] <Ian_Corne> i'll have a look when I'm home later today
[12:18] <saulotoledo> doing a system restart, I backsoon
[12:18] <Stanley00> saulotoledo: hmm, look likes more difficult than I think, I dont know how exactly, but you can try edit ~/.local/share/mime/* and ~/.local/share/applications/*.desktop
[12:19] <saulotoledo> Stanley00: Thanks! Going try!
[12:19] <Stanley00> saulotoledo: that where association settings store...
[12:45] <carli2> i get crashes when i close a tab in pidgin
[12:46] <carli2> some error message "double free"
[12:49] <tasslehoff> What's the "post-release updates" in Additional Drivers? Is that the one I should choose?
[12:58] <michal_s> Ian_Corne: few minutes ago I had opportunity to look at launchpad, and looks like there was some update for this issue. But screensaver case is still there. I will check this out in 3 or 4h starting from now. :)
[12:58] <michal_s> Ian_Corne: thanx for info
[13:31] <binni> won't there be a Ubuntu 11.10 rc (release candidate) released later today?
[13:40] <Stanley00> !schedule
[13:43] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:48] <aoeui> I just tried doing an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on 11.10 beta and got this: http://pastebin.com/uJ6XPYGa
[14:02] <Tixos> hey guys, any idea on time for RC1 ?
[14:03] <FernandoMiguel> !schedule | Tixos
[14:03] <Tixos> yes, i was asking about 'time' FernandoMiguel
[14:03] <FernandoMiguel> when its ready? :P
[14:03] <FernandoMiguel> or join the testing team
[14:03] <Tixos> no, 'time' :)
[14:03] <FernandoMiguel> just get a daily and have fun
[14:04] <Tixos> the 6th, is many different times in different countries :)
[14:04] <Tixos> whats the server for dailys
[14:04] <FernandoMiguel> !daily | Tixos
[14:05] <Tixos> ty
[14:05] <FernandoMiguel> yw
[14:12] <BluesKaj> I had to drink the pulseaudio koolade, for web audio to work :/
[14:30] <bjsnider> BluesKaj, a ha
[14:41]  * BluesKaj is NOT happy ...wonder why flash audio doesn't link to alsa on webcontent...it's supposed to do so...phonon is supposed to be bypassed from the research I've done.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, previous to yesterday PA didn't even see my default sound card , even tho it was set as Card 0 in alsa.conf
[14:43] <bjsnider> everybody needs pulse
[14:45] <BluesKaj> I had alsa working fine on my pc content ...webaudio content wasn't being linked ....if I could just figure out how to ...
[14:46] <BluesKaj> PA adds distortion to the mix ...it's easy to detect
[14:46] <vivid> is there any way around the mega conflicts with multi arch support?
[14:47] <vivid> example, installing a <package>:i386 that is needed attempts to remove many amd64 packages, including <package>:amd64
[14:47] <vivid> so, is this expected behavior? or is this a bug that needs to be worked out of multi arch support? honestly with it this way...its a great idea, but not working well
[14:51] <bjsnider> vivid, the :i386 will conflict with its amd64 counterpart, so the latter will be removed, and based on dependencies, that could cause a lot of other amd64 packages to be removed in favour of their i386 counterparts
[14:51] <vivid> so basically, what youre saying is multi arch is completely unusable really
[14:51] <bjsnider> i don't see how that follows
[14:51] <vivid> well, if i cant install packages that i need, then my result is to run a pure 32bit system
[14:52] <vivid> effectively meaning multi arch doesnt provide the functionality its name suggests
[14:53] <vivid> i dunno, just wondering.  seemed to have few problems with the ia32-libs methodology, maybe it will get better in the future
[14:53] <bjsnider> no, it doesn't have to be a pure i386 system, only a part of it
[14:53] <vivid> well, you understand that if...for example i have to separate applications
[14:53] <vivid> both requiring the same library, but in different architectures
[14:53] <vivid> the system is a serious mess at that point
[14:54] <bjsnider> you have to pick one or the other
[14:54] <bjsnider> pick one arch
[14:54] <vivid> and obviously its going to be 64bit.  but thats not the point
[14:54] <bjsnider> if you need the lib at i386 then everything that links to it has to be as well
[14:55] <vivid> and i can provide that, but apt doesnt agree
[14:56] <vivid> couldnt i just script PATH for specific programs?
[14:56] <vivid> and point to the 32bit.....might as well make a chroot
[14:56] <bjsnider> what do you mean apt doesn't agree?
[14:57] <vivid> uh, it says no
[14:57] <vivid> when i say yes
[14:59] <bjsnider> the apt commands don't always look pretty for multiarch. you might need to tell it that it's ok to replace an installed package with the i386 version
[15:00] <vivid> no, it just needs to do what i say, no replacing
[15:00] <vivid> side by side
[15:00] <vivid> if i replace the packages, then ill need to do it every time i run such programs
[15:00] <vivid> considering the 64bit system requires them....
[15:01] <bjsnider> what is the specific apt command you're running and the result?
[15:01] <vivid> bleh, i should just take all of these libs and create my own ia32-libs package
[15:01] <vivid> i need libglade2-0:i386
[15:01] <bjsnider> and pastebin the result
[15:03] <vivid> http://pastebin.com/5pfK41YE
[15:04] <vivid> such a mess
[15:04] <bjsnider> you have to keep going down that line and telling it to install the i386 versions of those packages
[15:04] <vivid> evince bleh, purge carp
[15:04] <vivid> it will remove my natives though and thats not an acceptable alternative
[15:05] <bjsnider> so what?
[15:05] <bjsnider> i don't think it's going to replace your whole base system
[15:05] <vivid> practically
[15:06] <vivid> look at the stuff it wants to replace
[15:06] <bjsnider> yeah but have you already tried it?
[15:06] <vivid> eventually it would be half the system
[15:06] <vivid> im not going to
[15:06] <vivid> i tried as much as im going to, just wanted to know if why when how this type of stuff will be resolved
[15:06] <bjsnider> well, if you feel strongly about it as an issue, submit a bug
[15:07] <vivid> yea, attached to debian testing
[15:07] <bjsnider> maybe tell them to put that back in ia32-libs
[15:08] <vivid> seems like multi arch is too new
[15:08] <vivid> good idea though
[15:10] <bjsnider> most of the time it doesn't require you to replace your whole system
[15:17] <xgt001> hi there.. anyone using catalyst 11.9 experiencing random lightdm restart?
[15:18] <hughissuper> I upgraded to Oneiric, and now my touchpad doesn't work.  I tried going in the terminal to enable it, but still no result.  Ho can I fix this?
[15:18] <hughissuper> *how
[15:19] <xgt001> hughissuper, i have been experiencing too ... no proper workaround
[15:19] <xgt001> hughissuper, try this
[15:19] <panpan-> how do I update to the RC?
[15:19] <hughissuper> xgt001, lol try what
[15:19] <xgt001> sudo apt-get install gpointing-device-settings
[15:19] <hughissuper> oh sorry
[15:20] <xgt001> then there uncheck disable the touchpad
[15:20] <xgt001> if its already unchecked
[15:20] <xgt001> select and then deselect it
[15:20] <xgt001> it works for me
[15:20] <xgt001> panpan-, if you upgraded the packages today u are in rc
[15:21] <panpan-> im still on 11.04
[15:22] <xgt001> panpan-,  sudo update-manager -d
[15:23] <panpan-> thanks
[15:31] <vivid> definitely an improvement in unity functionality :p
[15:34] <devurandom> Hello!
[15:34] <devurandom> I am using 11.10 and updated kdepim today, from 4.7.1+git to 4.7.2. Since then I am being spammed with system/plasma notifications "<SERVERNAME>: No message received. The server-answer contained no data." (translated from german: "Keine Nachricht erhalten. Die Serverantwort enthielt keine Daten.".
[15:34] <devurandom> Does anyone else experience the same issue and is the problem or the solution known?
[15:36] <devurandom> The "plasma-netbook" process is at almost 100% CPU and the messages are annoyingly interrupting my work.
[15:44] <hughissuper> xgt001 I installed it, where do i go?
[15:57] <Ian_Corne> where can I say which is the preferred app for something?
[15:59] <vivid> Ian_Corne, right click -> properties -> open with -> set as default
[15:59] <Ian_Corne> browser for example ;-)
[16:00] <Ian_Corne> for the hotkey
[16:00] <Ian_Corne> I'm thinking gnome-tweak-tool
[16:01] <vivid> system settings -> system info -> default applications
[16:03] <rbasak> Hmm. In what way is default applications "Info"? Thanks vivid, I'd never been in there before!
[16:04] <vivid> click the icon on the top right
[16:04] <vivid> select system settings
[16:04] <vivid> click system info
[16:04] <templet> how do i install deadbeef in oneiric ?
[16:07] <Ian_Corne> !info deadbeef
[16:08] <bjsnider> it will have to be updated in smirnoff's ppa
[16:10] <AlecTaylor> Looking for an open-source db modelling tool with SQL (including OracleDB) code generation capabilities. Know of one?
[16:11] <templet> i have seen oneiric deadbeef packages made of oneiric though the package maintainer is a different guide and i do not know how to add his ppa
[16:12] <vivid> templet, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<nameofppa>
[16:12] <vivid> or manually download the binary
[16:12] <templet> https://launchpad.net/~alex-p/+archive/notesalexp-oneiric/+build/2779396
[16:12] <templet> i could do that
[16:18] <th_> any guess if ati's 11.9 drivers will make it to the oneiric?
[16:19] <th_> otherwise it's a sad day for ati owners, no gnome 3 for another 6 months
[16:22] <emorris> hi, jockey doesn't seem to be suggesting the b43 driver for me in oneiric. Have other people seen this/is it expected?
[16:24] <th_> wlan? if it works, then open driver is good enough already i guess =P
[16:26] <emorris> th_, no, it doesn't work. I've always had to use the b43
[16:28] <bjsnider> th_, the latest catalyst driver will always be in the x-updates ppa
[16:28] <th_> oh, ic
[16:29] <RobinJ> will the release candidate have a seperate folder on cdimage.ubuntu.com or is it just another daily build?
[16:30] <th_> bjsnider: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates this? it has even older one than oneiric :/
[16:31] <bjsnider> yes, right now
[16:31] <bjsnider> but in the future it will be different
[16:32] <RobinJ> yello? :p
[16:33] <RobinJ> Will the release candidate have a seperate folder on cdimage.ubuntu.com or is it just another daily build?
[16:34] <michal_s> iirc there is no Ubuntu RC
[16:41] <rww> RobinJ: oneiric development milestones go in http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[16:41] <fossala> Is an rc comming out today?
[16:41] <rww> fossala: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule , yes
[16:42] <RobinJ> k thanx
[16:42] <fossala> thought so thanks
[16:43] <Parsind> i had a dream
[16:45] <user82> i sure hope it is..i need a operating system :P
[17:05] <Parsind> at lea thes llss rols in hee
[17:06] <Parsind> at lest theres les trolls in ere
[17:06] <Parsind> got chang keeeeeeeeeeeboad btteris
[17:07] <Parsind> damn wireless keyboards
[17:08] <Parsind> i just got muted from ubuntu for trolling
[17:08] <Parsind> like theres lots of trolls there must e friends of the sysops
[17:09] <oCean> Parsind: you can discuss your mute in #ubuntu-ops, not here
[17:09] <Parsind> just saying
[17:09] <Parsind> if i go there will get banned instead of muted
[17:10] <Parsind> thnks for the addvice
[17:11] <Parsind> hum i guess theres not much happening here
[17:12] <Parsind> is oniric progress stalled? or no one uses it
[17:54] <devurandom> ("server-answer contained no data"): The issue seems to have solved itself for now.
[18:06] <Parsind> will this new ubuntu run on android devices?
[18:15] <vsync_> Anyone else had problems with grub after some upgrades?
[18:16] <vsync_> I can get it to work by manually setting paths + booting in the rescue prompt, but when grub tries to fire it goes: error, no such device and then some sort of an ID
[18:24] <MeanEYE> Hi there. Anyone know which package is a replacement for python-gnome2... To be more specific I need access to gnomevfs in oneiric.
[18:27] <FernandoMiguel> let the ISO testing begin https://plus.google.com/u/1/116015965439782966698/posts/27TqVoxDg6S
[18:29] <Azelphur> FernandoMiguel: pfft, I knock 80 cores out in my spare bedroom http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/May%202011/IMG_20110525_034107.jpg
[18:31] <Arnold> Hello everyone. Will there be a downloadable Ubuntu 11.10 RC release today, or only the final release will be downloadable (outside daily's) ?
[18:37] <jlhenry> Hello! What's the best place to look for 11.10 RC?
[18:42] <panpan-> i keep getting errors about flashplugin-installer when i tried to do update-manager -d or after i restarted and do apt-get upgrade... i tried to remove and install but it gives errors with that too did i do something wrong?
[18:53] <panpan-> do i even need flashplugin-installer?
[18:57] <panpan-> anybody?
[18:57] <panpan-> :((
[18:57] <Azelphur> panpan-: do you even need flash?
[18:57] <panpan-> i really don't care about it no
[18:58] <Azelphur> then remove it?
[18:58] <panpan-> ok, would those errors during the upgrade have messed anything else up though?
[18:58] <Azelphur> no idea whatsoever, I'm not telepathic :p
[18:59] <MeanEYE> panpan-: Can you be more specific what the error is?
[19:02] <panpan-> MeanEYE it says nspluginwrapper: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so is not a valid NPAPI plugin and dpkg: error processing flashplugin-installer (--configure): sub process installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[19:06] <gsker> who and last do not show anything in oneirc with lightdm. Any reason why. Would I fix this in pam or in lightdm?
[19:10] <panpan-> ubuntu software center just crashes too, i think something got messed up in the upgrade, is there an iso or something of the rc i can install directly?
[19:16] <jbicha> !daily
[19:17] <jbicha> but try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage if you already have an older Oneiric CD
[19:23] <gsker> I just do a netboot install. Doesn't that get everything current?
[19:36] <wqrgyuf> hi
[19:36] <wqrgyuf> what's up with the RC?
[19:37] <wqrgyuf> is it available for the public?
[19:37] <Ian_Corne> No
[19:37] <wqrgyuf> why not?
[19:37] <Ian_Corne> The moon isn't in position yet
[19:38] <wqrgyuf> they can see the moon in london, it is always cloudy
[19:39] <wqrgyuf> u know all linux with 3.0 kernel don't work well with my wireless card
[19:39] <wqrgyuf> it can connect but it disconnect all the time
[19:40] <jbicha> wqrgyuf: release candidate isn't a milestone release like the Betas, the next release is the Final release in 1 week
[19:40] <wqrgyuf> ok undestood
[19:40] <wqrgyuf> but u know something about my problem?
[19:41] <wqrgyuf> it happens with ubuntu and fedora
[19:41] <wqrgyuf> exactly the same problem
[19:41] <wqrgyuf> i suppose it's the kernel
[19:41] <jbicha> this isn't where you report bugs, and I'm not really a hardware driver guy :)
[19:42] <Database> Odd problem: On a liveCD of the Oneiric beta2, I can enable two-finger scrolling, but it doesn't work. The same option works fine on Arch with a bog standard install.
[19:43] <wqrgyuf> well i really do not know if that's a bug
[19:43] <Database> (this also happens on a install of any other Ubuntu, iirc.)
[19:44] <wqrgyuf> btw it is new feature of the kernel, because before i had to install the drivers manually
[19:46] <wqrgyuf> maybe intalling the drivers will fix it?
[19:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone else here having issues with random "Program closed" messages and whatnot?
[19:55] <FunnyLookinHat> I've filed a few bugs - or tried to at least in a couple of cases - but wanted to make sure it wasn't just me...
[20:00] <pdq> i upgraded 3 days ago and after updates till now have only had 2 things closing for me, polly and a cryptfolder indicator :P
[20:01] <pdq> synaptic package manager and software centre as well for the 1st day or so
[20:16] <user82> until when is rc ready. end of day in usa?
[20:16] <wqrgyuf> is it public?
[20:17] <wqrgyuf> someone told me is not
[20:17] <jbicha> there is no RC, we're focusing on getting the final CDs ready
[20:18] <user82> it is not public..omg
[20:19] <Ian_Corne> jbicha: are there nightly buidls?
[20:19] <Ian_Corne> builds*
[20:19] <yofel> sure
[20:19] <yofel> !daily
[20:19] <jbicha> user82: everything in Ubuntu is public, it's just not worth the effort to test and qualify a separate RC when what we really want is the final build
[20:19] <user82> jbicha https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[20:19] <pdq> if i use the beta 2 and keep up with the updates is that kept upto date with the daily?
[20:19] <jbicha> !zsync
[20:20] <Ian_Corne> yes pdq
[20:20] <jbicha> user82: look at the Notes column, there isn't a RC build, it's a RC development phase
[20:20] <pdq> cool thanks, was just confirming :] working great here, i thought would be much more crashy
[20:21] <user82> ah ok..right jbicha
[20:22] <jbicha> sorry for the confusion, a few releases ago we did have a separate RC milestone
[20:23] <Ian_Corne> but we didn't have beta2 then
[20:26]  * maxb is REALLY REALLY missing Unity corner reveal
[20:26] <toby> hows the release candidate coming along?
[20:27] <Ian_Corne> maxb: oooh
[20:27] <Ian_Corne> i thought my unity was just broken
[20:27] <Ian_Corne> how does it reveal now?
[20:28] <Ian_Corne> ah just go to the left
[20:28] <Ian_Corne> that's acceptable :p
[20:28] <maxb> No, not broken, just the Canonical Design Team telling us what to like, AGAIN
[20:29] <maxb> I'm giving it a couple of days, then I think I'm going to send an email to ubuntu-devel pointing out the user turnoff that is "UI Design Fatigue"
[20:29] <binni> does there exist or is anyone planing on creating a guide to install and configure gnome-shell for "best" experience in Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:29] <binni> just installing gnome or gnome-shell and gnome-tweaks perhaps doesn't seam to give one a polished experience
[20:30] <wqrgyuf> i prefer failbak than gnome-shell
[20:32] <binni> wqrgyuf: going to try failbak/fallback , brb
[20:34] <iceroot> with the newest kernel i have about 10 kernel-panics. cant find the infos in /var/log/syslog, just have a photo from my monitor. is there a place where to find the info about the last kernel-panic? or is a photo my only way to report it?
[20:35] <Ian_Corne> iceroot: asus eee?
[20:35] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: 901
[20:36] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: seems like its a common issue?
[20:36] <Ian_Corne> I have it too
[20:36] <Ian_Corne> not on any other system
[20:36] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: also have kernel panics on eeepc?
[20:36] <Ian_Corne> just my asus eee
[20:36] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: you have already a bug created?
[20:36] <Ian_Corne> No :(
[20:37] <Ian_Corne> didn't have time to go the depth of it
[20:37] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: i will create a bug, maybe you can append to it?
[20:37] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: just "i am also affected"
[20:37] <Ian_Corne> Yes thank you
[20:37] <binni> someone should make a Gubuntu/UbuntuShell variant of Ubuntu for a polished Ubuntu with Gnome-Shell as default..
[20:37] <iceroot> ok but where to find the kernel-panic text?
[20:37] <Ian_Corne> if you're lucky, it's logged somewhere
[20:37] <Ian_Corne> depends on the panic
[20:37] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: not in syslog
[20:38] <Ian_Corne> Yeah i never got apport popping up either
[20:38] <Ian_Corne> I'm thinking it crashes the system and it has no time/opportunity to log anything
[20:38] <iceroot> hm "grep -ir panic /var/log/" doesnt bring anything up
[20:39] <iceroot> i will create the bug and post it to you
[20:39] <Ian_Corne> Ok thanks
[20:39] <Ian_Corne> I'm going to bed asap
[20:39] <Ian_Corne> sleepy as hell
[20:39] <jbicha> binni: that's quite a bit of work, considering that gnome-shell is an easy install in Oneiric
[20:39] <wqrgyuf> it's like gradma time to sleep
[20:39] <Ian_Corne> 22:39
[20:39] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: give me 5 minutes
[20:40] <wqrgyuf> yeah bro
[20:40] <Ian_Corne> up at 5:45 tomorow for work
[20:40] <wqrgyuf> fuu
[20:40] <wqrgyuf> nice work u have there
[20:40] <Ian_Corne> I choose that
[20:40] <Ian_Corne> I'm home at 16:00
[20:40] <Ian_Corne> and have afternoon/evening free :)
[20:40] <wqrgyuf> i am 14
[20:40] <Ian_Corne> I'm 24 :D
[20:40] <wqrgyuf> but they do not pay me xD
[20:40] <Ian_Corne> ah
[20:41] <wqrgyuf> i ment 14:00
[20:41] <wqrgyuf> i pay them
[20:41] <Ian_Corne> aha
[20:41] <Ian_Corne> what kind of businees?
[20:41] <Ian_Corne> ERRF
[20:41] <Ian_Corne> bussiness
[20:41] <Ian_Corne> ?
[20:41] <Ian_Corne> stupid word :D
[20:42] <wqrgyuf> haha it is easy
[20:42] <wqrgyuf> student
[20:44] <binni> jbicha: maybe a comprehensive guide then to how to install and configure gnome shell for a polished experience on 11.10
[20:44] <wqrgyuf> i am gonna buy the 12.04
[20:44] <Ian_Corne> buy? :p
[20:44] <maxb> urgh, oneiric has broken circular scrolling on my touchpad
[20:44] <nhaines> Yay, artworks!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[20:44] <wqrgyuf> it is not free anymore
[20:44] <Ian_Corne> wtf is circular scrolling maxb ?
[20:44] <jbicha> binni: I have a slightly outdated one on my blog
[20:44] <Ian_Corne> you mean horizontal+vertical two finger scrolling?
[20:45] <wqrgyuf> and some shirt or soemthing
[20:45] <jbicha> binni: but it's unclear what you mean by polished, except for using Ambiance theme & Ubuntu's font, we do ship GNOME Shell just like upstream
[20:46] <maxb> Ian_Corne: it's when you run your finger up the edge of the touchpad, and then carry on around the perimeter to scroll further
[20:46] <wqrgyuf> mine don't even have right click
[20:47] <wqrgyuf> i think i bought a notebook with very new components
[20:49] <maxb> ah, it's simply that it's trashed the previous settings, and failed to incorporate gpointing-device-settings in the new settings thing
[20:52] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/869502
[20:58] <iceroot> great, needed 20 seconds until someone from canocial confirmed it :)
[20:58] <iceroot> hope the fix is also that fast :)
[20:58] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: can you also post some infos if you have?
[21:01] <Guest63540> good afternoon, Is there a RC today or was that dropped
[21:03] <wqrgyuf> i week bro
[21:03] <wqrgyuf> one=i
[21:04] <mrdeb> are you ready for the new ubuntu
[21:04] <mrdeb> ?
[21:04] <crunchy> iceroot: Looks like I'm happy that asus eeep 1001 is not having this problem
[21:05] <iceroot> crunchy: hi :)
[21:05] <Guest63540> just curious main relese next week , i wasn't sure the RC was today
[21:05] <wqrgyuf> i am ready, and my mum too
[21:06] <mrdeb> is it out today
[21:06] <mrdeb> ?
[21:06] <wqrgyuf> it is not for public
[21:06] <Guest63540> the 6th was a Release candaite date
[21:07] <mrdeb> so daily build is ok now
[21:07] <mrdeb> is that it
[21:07] <wqrgyuf> yep i came here or the same reason
[21:09] <wqrgyuf> i am trying fedora in the wait
[21:10] <mrdeb> which one, fuduntu
[21:10] <mrdeb> ?
[21:10] <wqrgyuf> fedora 16
[21:10] <wqrgyuf> but i have the same problem woth both betas
[21:10] <wqrgyuf> fedora and ubuntu
[21:11] <mrdeb> well use daily build its better
[21:11] <mrdeb> how is the fedora 16
[21:11] <wqrgyuf> good enough
[21:14] <user82> is daily build from tommorrow then (theoretically) "release-ready" (in conculusion of what happened above)?
[21:15] <jbicha> user82: it's better than beta, but it's not been fully tested yet
[21:16] <gribouille> is the RC released?
[21:17] <wqrgyuf> daily build
[21:17] <user82> ok...well who really cares for a system that waits
[21:19] <gribouille> is the RC released?
[21:20] <wqrgyuf> daily build it's all i found
[21:20] <wqrgyuf> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[21:20] <wqrgyuf> today at 8
[21:23] <mrdeb> wq, is that he final one that will be out
[21:23] <mrdeb> ?
[21:23] <wqrgyuf> i do not think so
[21:23] <wqrgyuf> RC is not that anyway
[21:24] <wqrgyuf> it is just a maybe
[21:29] <ThomasWaldmann> hi, is there some estimate for the 11.10 rc iso?
[21:31] <mrdeb> you can get it now
[21:31] <ThomasWaldmann> as i wanted to secure erase and reinstall my thinkpad x300 anyway, i thought i could give it a final test
[21:31] <ThomasWaldmann> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ that still says beta2
[21:32] <maxb> IIUC correctly from earlier mention in this channel, RC CD images are being skipped in favour of polishing the actual release
[21:32] <maxb> Has anyone had any experience with playing DVDs in oneiric?
[21:33] <maxb> totem seems to be using an awful lot of CPU
[21:33] <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so best way is testing beta2? mrdeb?
[21:33] <wqrgyuf> yep
[21:34] <wqrgyuf> or daily built
[21:34] <mrdeb> get daily build now
[21:34] <ThomasWaldmann> ok
[21:34] <mrdeb> good luck
[21:34] <mrdeb> maxb, you should use vlc
[21:35] <user82> mrdeb you think it is rc quality now?
[21:35] <maxb> mrdeb: Perhaps I should, but the Ubuntu default media player ought to not suck CPU horridly too
[21:35] <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, i need rootfs on crypto, but i only see desktop cds. are they ok for that?
[21:35] <maxb> :-)
[21:36] <mrdeb> user i dont know but its close to release and it willbe better than beta
[21:36] <mrdeb> only idfference that will change is package updates
[21:36] <mrdeb> max i said before totem is not good and should not be in ubuntu, but vlc should
[21:38] <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, i also have better results with vlc (or mplayer) than totem usually
[21:39] <wqrgyuf> oneric ready
[21:40] <maxb> Hrm, sorry, I reject your assertion that vlc is superior
[21:40] <mrdeb> what
[21:40] <maxb> Whilst it appears to be using less CPU, it's failing dismally at the basic task of playing a DVD whilst maintaining audio/video sync
[21:40] <user82> well mrdeb i guess everything is frozen...i should install it who cares i will install 12.04 over it anyway soon
[21:42] <user82> well cannot be thaaat rc i guess "oneiric-desktop-amd64.OVERSIZED"
[21:42] <mrdeb> yes
[21:42] <mrdeb> try not thge 64 bit, sometimes thats a problem
[21:43] <jbicha> amd64 is only barely oversized, it'll probably work fine
[21:43] <ThomasWaldmann> any idea whether the availability of full disk crypto is different from earlier release cds? alternate cd required or is desktop also ok?
[21:44] <dork> i would use vlc
[21:45] <dork> if i could ff or rw with arrow keys
[21:45] <dork> :P
[21:46] <mrdeb> well only problme is vlc is qt so its a big download
[21:46] <mrdeb> they should do vlc without qt
[21:49] <maxb> I already have qt, that's not a problem
[21:49] <maxb> Failing to maintain audio/video sync, however is a problem
[21:52] <mrdeb> well the sync was always a problem in totem, no
[21:52] <mrdeb> yes
[21:52] <ThomasWaldmann> when using the 11.04 default video player on my machine, videos are rather like a dia show :| but with vlc it works.
[21:53] <mrdeb> its bec the parts are separate
[21:53] <mrdeb> but vlc is one
[21:56] <maxb> Hm
[21:56] <maxb> Well, good to see that Flash apparently works in oneiric
[21:56] <maxb> still, pondering going back to natty
[21:56] <MrZepeda> If I chose to use the old kernel (2.6) the gnome brightness applet works, if I use the new one (3.0) I can't adjust brightness. I'm using a MacBook Pro. Any ideas? Should I file a bug? If yes, where and how? thank you.
[21:57] <blizzow> I have a new thinkpad t420s.  Everytime I stick a memory card in the reader I get some kind "error X whilst initialising SD card"  where X can be any of -5 -80 -110 -111.  I have seen a bunch posts in the forums regarding similar error messages.  They're all for old releases though.  Are SD cards b0rked in oneiric?
[22:00] <mrdeb> wow
[22:00] <mrdeb> gnome 3.2 is out
[22:00] <mrdeb> is it in ubuntu 1110
[22:00] <MrZepeda> Bluetooth, webcam, and the microphone stopped working. I've been trying everything I can think of to make them work (for days). Is it probable that they will work once the stable branch is released? Are this problems probably related to the new kernel? Is there a simple way (no re-install) to come back to natty?
[22:02] <mrdeb> MrZepeda: it is probably not that easy to reinstall and 1110 is newer, so maybe you can work out the bugs.
[22:03] <MrZepeda> ok. I would like to do that. but I've never done it before and I guess I need some guidance. Everything was working well before.
[22:04] <mrdeb> yes, i understand. sometimes a new version works different from older one
[22:04] <user82> are the staging drivers enabled in ubuntu(i guess so)
[22:04] <MrZepeda> I mean I've worked out bugs, but looking at other peoples solutions. I've never really fixed them myself.
[22:04] <mrdeb> whats that
[22:04] <mrdeb> yes
[22:05] <MrZepeda> I'm confused if this bugs are related to the new kernel or to ubuntu
[22:05] <mrdeb> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/one-hundred-paper-cuts-oneiric-cycle-has-started-get-involved/
[22:05] <mrdeb> this tells you how to file bugs using apport application in help menu
[22:06] <mrdeb> well i use the new kernel but not mac, so im not sure
[22:06] <MrZepeda> for ex. the webcam was working when I first installed oniric, and then it stopped working. I was messing with it so much that now I don't know if I made it worse
[22:06] <MrZepeda> oh ok
[22:06] <mrdeb> webcam should work automatically as long as drive is good
[22:06] <MrZepeda> hmm
[22:06] <MrZepeda> good to know
[22:06] <mrdeb> driver
[22:07] <MrZepeda> because I read in wikipedia (kernel 3.0) that iSight should work out the box because its usb based. So I should probably fix the driver then?
[22:07] <MrZepeda> has nothing to do with the kernel?
[22:07] <MrZepeda> I'm gonna look into that
[22:08] <mrdeb> well the kernel includes that driver probably
[22:08] <mrdeb> so maybe the new one messed it u
[22:08] <MrZepeda> aaahaa!
[22:09] <MrZepeda> so I'm gonna try to remove it and see what happens
[22:09] <mrdeb> ok
[22:09] <mrdeb> if you go to terminal
[22:09] <mrdeb> and then type lsmod, it will tell you all loaded driver modules
[22:09] <mrdeb> so you can tell which one
[22:10] <MrZepeda> the other strange thing is that when the webcam was working (fresh install) and I looked at my sound properties I saw many nvidia kind of sound drivers. (And that is when the webcam worked) now I only see pulse audio.
[22:11] <mrdeb> hmm so maybe you only need to select another option
[22:11] <MrZepeda> hmmm...
[22:11] <MrZepeda> I'm going to keep messing around with things
[22:11] <MrZepeda> will try to remove the firmware from the camera
[22:12] <MrZepeda> maybe its already built-in to the kernel
[22:14] <MrZepeda> thanks for the paper cuts link its a nice idea
[22:16] <mrdeb> ok
[22:33] <user82> can i expect more performance on a low power netbook with btrfs? (unimportant data everythign saved online if it crashes or so)
[22:34] <user82> not really..i guess?
[22:45] <nhaines> user82: there might not be anyone here who knows.
[22:45] <user82> yep..i better go with ext4 now
[22:46] <nhaines> It's a start.  :)
[22:46] <user82> who cares i might want to install it again anyway octover 14th...all my real working data is in the dropbox besides a few apps
[22:48] <user82> minor installer bug deteced. i connected to my wifi before starting install progress and it asked me if it wants to connect to a wifi(incl the one it was connected) for updates and stuff..will anyone care about this?
[22:50] <templet> can anyone know how to solve this problem ?  http://pastebin.com/3bGcgv9x
[22:51] <nhaines> templet: you might want to ask in a debian channel.
[22:51] <nhaines> The problem may be debian-unique.
[22:58] <Drogos> Anyone know of a good guide to get 11.10 to work like 10.10 ? (Like to be able to right click panels, not have global menus and how to move the windows buttons back to the right side)?
[23:01] <nhaines> Drogos: yes, you cannot right-click panels.  There's a package you can remove to disable global menus, and I'm not sure if window controls can be moved to the right side.
[23:01] <nhaines> You may not want to use Unity or GNOME Shell if you prefer to customize your desktop shell.  I'm going to track down the global menu package name for you.
[23:02] <Drogos> yes, I am using the gnome shell.
[23:02] <Drogos> Gnome 3 has no support for right click? At all?
[23:02] <Drogos> (On panels)
[23:03] <jbicha> Drogos: hold down the Alt key
[23:03] <templet> the problem i was having #debian does not support
[23:03] <rww> templet: Are you using Ubuntu or Debian?
[23:04] <templet> ubuntu oneiric
[23:04] <nhaines> Drogos: you'll need to ask in a GNOME channel for that.  Likewise with global menus, since I was not aware GNOME Shell supported those.
[23:04] <pythonsnake> Hi
[23:04] <rww> templet: why is your hostname "debian"?
[23:04] <pythonsnake> How to burn oneiric in usb?
[23:04] <nhaines> rww: maybe because he is using Debian.
[23:04] <templet> oddly enough i thought that pastein was for ubuntu
[23:04] <Drogos> hmm… Running in virtual box (on ubuntu 10.10), so when I hold down alt key, I move the virtualbox around…
[23:04] <nhaines> pythonsnake: this is not "burning", but if you are using Ubuntu then you can run Startup Disk Creator.
[23:04] <pythonsnake> On windows
[23:04] <rww> templet: excuse me?
[23:05] <nhaines> Drogos: use right Alt key.
[23:05] <nhaines> Drogos: Left Alt always moves a window.  That's an X Windows function.  :)
[23:05] <Drogos> Still nothing, but I will try gnome channel, thanks :)
[23:05] <pythonsnake> I need to get that work real fast...
[23:05] <rww> templet: also, why are you asking us questions about a pastebin from *February*
[23:06] <templet> here is my ubuntu pastebin  http://pastebin.com/PykeziVq
[23:06] <nhaines> pythonsnake: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[23:06] <templet> i thought it was my identical problem
[23:06] <nhaines> In step 2 you can choose that you want to create a USB stick and choose Windows, and then click "Show me how" for instructions and links, with screenshots.
[23:06] <rww> templet: when asking for help, do not use other peoples' pastebins, make your own in future, or we get problems like that. Thanks :)
[23:13] <pythonsnake> nhaines: there's no 11.10 in the list
[23:13] <nhaines> pythonsnake: that is because 11.10 is not released yet.
[23:14] <nhaines> pythonsnake: I didn't say to do anything at step 1.  I said to skip to step 2.
[23:14] <pythonsnake> nhaines: so?
[23:14] <nhaines> pythonsnake: so you cannot choose to download 11.10 because it does not exist.
[23:14] <pythonsnake> so how can I install oeniric?
[23:16] <templet> where can i change the default unity icon ?
[23:17] <nhaines> pythonsnake: we'd better start at the beginning.  But first, do you understand that oneiric is not complete and may not work at all on your system and may break everything?
[23:17] <nhaines> templet: you can't.
[23:17] <pythonsnake> yes.....
[23:18] <nhaines> pythonsnake: Okay.  The first thing you need is the Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop CD ISO image.  Do you have that yet?
[23:18] <pythonsnake> sure...
[23:20] <nhaines> Okay, in that case, all of the steps listed at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download should work for you.
[23:20] <MrZepeda> are you already running ubuntu?
[23:20] <nhaines> Do not choose Ubuntu 11.10 (it doesn't exist).  Choose Ubuntu 11.04 and select your oneiric ISO anyway.
[23:20] <pythonsnake> That's what I wanted to know
[23:20] <pythonsnake> thanks
[23:21] <nhaines> pythonsnake: you're welcome.  Thanks for stepping back a step with me.
[23:21] <pythonsnake> I can't select the iso...
[23:22] <pythonsnake> got it
[23:22] <pythonsnake> changed xubuntu-11.10-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso to xubuntu-11.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:23] <nhaines> aha!
[23:24] <pythonsnake> ...windows can't format linux fs
[23:25] <nhaines> That is correct.  Windows can only format FAT12, FAT32, NTFS, and exFAT.
[23:26] <pythonsnake> What now
[23:26] <nhaines> Depending on how fast you need it, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/ might be a better ISO source, as it will have all of the updates since beta 2.
[23:26] <nhaines> what do you mean, what now?
[23:27] <pythonsnake> I have a Linux file system USB
[23:27] <pythonsnake> I can't format it with Windows
[23:27] <nhaines> You can format it, but you'll lose all of the data on it.
[23:27] <pythonsnake> Yes
[23:27] <pythonsnake> How to do so
[23:28] <nhaines> Go to Start, then right-click on Computer or My Computer, then choose Manage.
[23:28] <pythonsnake> got it
[23:28] <nhaines> Select the Disk Management tool and you'll be able to format the partition.  Please take care to choose the correct one!
[23:28] <nhaines> FAT32 or NTFS should work with a bootable USB stick.
[23:28] <pythonsnake> Ok
[23:28]  * pythonsnake formats C:/
[23:29] <nhaines> haha  :)
[23:29] <pythonsnake> It shows only a 184mb partition
[23:29] <jbicha> pythonsnake: I did that once in Vista, it's an interesting way to  break Windows
[23:30] <pythonsnake> jbicha: actually, it's OEM and I don't have recovery disc, so I can't do that yet :(
[23:30] <nhaines> pythonsnake: it may actually be easier (seriously) to burn a CD, boot from that, and use the Live CD to create the USB.
[23:30] <jbicha> pythonsnake: it was an accident & I don't recommend repeating it
[23:31] <pythonsnake> dont have cd
[23:31] <Servercrash> hi,  i got this intel 855  chipset, how do i set resolution higher than 1024x768
[23:31] <nhaines> Do you have another USB drive?  Or another computer handy?
[23:31] <Servercrash> i could not find xorg.conf
[23:32] <pythonsnake> no
[23:32] <Servercrash> neither does the display manger detects 855 card
[23:32] <nhaines> Servercrash: there is no xorg.conf by default, because everything is automatically detected (for the last three years or so).  But you can create one and it will override any automatic settings.
[23:33] <pythonsnake> please help :(
[23:34] <Servercrash> nhaines, thx, any idea about how to add intel 855 as display card
[23:34] <Servercrash> the display app fails to detect the display card
[23:34] <Servercrash> and hence has setup some generic card shows single 1024x768 display
[23:34] <nhaines> pythonsnake: You're trying to install a prerelease OS with a USB stick that isn't properly detected by Windows and you have no way to reinstall Windows if it fails, is that correct?  :(
[23:35] <pythonsnake> yes
[23:35] <jbicha> pythonsnake: without Ubuntu and without a CD, you can try unetbootin but that's not an official install method
[23:35] <nhaines> Servercrash: the display app is only showing what the Linux kernel and X detects.
[23:35] <Servercrash> well system info shows right display card
[23:35] <nhaines> pythonsnake: I strongly recommend that you don't continue until you have some way to recover if the Ubuntu install should fail.
[23:35] <pythonsnake> :(
[23:36] <pythonsnake> I won't give up
[23:36] <jbicha> pythonsnake: and you should probably make a backup of your data first
[23:36] <nhaines> pythonsnake: and if the USB stick really isn't being detected correctly (instead of Windows being confused), it might be damaged.
[23:36] <Servercrash> nhaines: but unforutnately no further go from there for some reason X doesnt detect the same
[23:36] <pythonsnake> Ha!
[23:36] <pythonsnake> !!
[23:36] <nhaines> You'll probably need to write zeros to the USB stick to remove the partition table.  Then you can intialize and format the stick.
[23:37] <pythonsnake> Found my 1gb sd!
[23:37] <nhaines> Servercrash: I haven't done a manual xorg.conf file in ages... I wouldn't know which driver to install.
[23:37] <nhaines> pythonsnake: careful, some computers can't boot from SD.  But it's worth a try!  :)
[23:37] <pythonsnake> :(
[23:37] <pythonsnake> Filled
[23:38] <pythonsnake> nhaines: are you sure choosing 11.04 is the way to go ?
[23:39] <Servercrash> nhaines, thx anyway, i guess Xorg - configure cannot be run while using X
[23:39] <nhaines> pythonsnake: there shouldn't be a difference from Ubuntu 11.04 to oneiric.
[23:39] <nhaines> Servercrash: that's right!  :)
[23:39] <pythonsnake> ok
[23:40] <pythonsnake> nhaines: Do you thinnk Ubuntu is compatible with G62 A455SX ?
[23:41] <nhaines> pythonsnake: I don't know, specifically.  But if you can get that USB stick written and it boots, then you will know for sure.  :)
[23:41] <nhaines> pythonsnake: if you can wait a week until the release, you can probably have a CD mailed to you.
[23:42] <pythonsnake> mailed ?!
[23:42] <Guest42905> evening, Was there a RC scheduled today?
[23:42] <nhaines> Guest42905: it was certainly scheduled!  Technically there are still 16 minutes left in "today".
[23:42] <pythonsnake> nhaines: what do you mean o.O
[23:42] <Guest42905> TY!
[23:42] <pythonsnake> Gonna install Xubuntu
[23:42] <pythonsnake> BRB
[23:43] <nhaines> Guest42905: it usually doesn't take so long so we're in suspense as well.  :)
[23:43] <nhaines> pythonsnake: I mean I would be happy to mail you a CD if you don't have any and you can't get a USB stick or SD card to work.
[23:43] <Guest42905> hehe been running the betas and was gonna load up RC tonight
[23:43] <nhaines> Guest42905: if you simply do all the updates, you'll pretty much be running the RC.
[23:44] <nhaines> If that's any consolation.  :)  Otherwise, you can get the latest live CD from cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[23:44] <nhaines> Today's image should be virtually identical to the RC.
[23:44] <Servercrash> successfully running ubuntu 11.10 on pentium M 1.6ghz / 1GB/hdd 80gb/vram 32mb :)
[23:44] <Guest42905> yeah, putting new RC on new HD
[23:44] <nhaines> Servercrash: yikes  :)
[23:45] <nhaines> Guest42905: in that case, it's safe to use the latest daily image.
[23:45] <Guest42905> kk
[23:45] <Guest42905> TY vm again
[23:45] <nhaines> If you run out of time waiting for RC anyway.  :)
[23:45] <nhaines> My pleasure.  Good luck and have fun!
[23:45] <Servercrash> nhaines, unity didnt work on 11.04 but on 11.10 everything working as of now i guess :)
[23:45] <Guest42905> <<<<loves buntu
[23:45] <nhaines> Servercrash: yes, there's lots of that.  :)
[23:46] <nhaines> Guest42905: it's only getting better!  Soon we'll just be waiting impatiently for the "precise pangolin" release!  (still ubuntu+2, hehe)
[23:46] <Servercrash> nhaines, just need to figure out how the get the display configured for resolution heigher than 1024x768 :D
[23:47] <Servercrash> just one hack was required, adding acpi=off in kernel boot command list
[23:50] <nhaines> Servercrash: hmm, well, it could be a start.  :)  What I usually did was try to add a monitor section that listed the extra resolutions.  That usually worked.
[23:58] <thenickperson> I set Ubuntu's mouse cursor theme to dark, but the main (arrow) cursor is still white, while all others are black. How can I fix this?