[04:09] does mythbuntu 11.04 use gnome as its window manager (correct me if I have said something stupid)? [04:11] ahhughes, nope [04:11] it uses xfce [04:12] hmmmm, would that preclude me from opening a gnome gui (again correct my if Im a stoopid noob)? [04:14] I appear to launch all sorts of gnome gui apps like eog, and do. [04:14] ahhughes: it should not block you from using/launching any window manger you like. [04:14] sweet, that rules out theory #6 for me :) [04:15] Of course, it doesn't come on the mythbuntu disk, so you need to install it ;-) [04:16] is there a gnome equivalent to this that I can install http://www.xfce.org/projects/xfce4-settings ? [04:16] [www.xfce.org] What is the Settings Manager? - Xfce [04:17] because all the ubuntu doco e.t.c. that I read refers to Applicaiton -> Settings -> Prefereces e.t.c. and they are not part of mytbuntu's xfce settings. [04:18] ahhughes: sorry, don't know. If you have infinite patience, you can wait around here to see if someone answers you, but it make take infinite time. I'd go looking on the ubuntu forums personally. [04:22] yeah, looking of forums is something Im comfortable with... its a little hard when you don't know what to look for... but I'll get there :) [04:31] ahhughes, you are best off reading xubuntu documentation [04:31] it's closer to the way mythbuntu is set up [04:31] ubuntu stuff is gonna be outdated anyway for this release with the unity switchover [04:53] this is all because I am trying to get touchegg working.... which I think is pretty $#&*@# impressive :)