| Monsterwizard | oh, I need to learn those | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Monsterwizard | linux pipes | 00:00 |
| ali1234 | also, sad but not particularly unexpected news about steve jobs | 00:00 |
| ali1234 | it was pretty obvious he didn't have long left when he stepped down a few weeks back | 00:00 |
| directhex | ali1234: UNIX is ISO/IEC 9945-2009 ;) | 00:11 |
| Monsterwizard | Can someone recommend me a unix/linux book | 01:00 |
| Monsterwizard | on general sys admin stuff | 01:01 |
| directhex | you won't get a book on unix/linux sysadminnery | 01:03 |
| directhex | as sysadminnery is OS-specific | 01:03 |
| directhex | and the unix spec is pretty clear in that anything goes as long as the common interfaces are available | 01:03 |
| directhex | i.e. a solaris admin can't admin aix | 01:04 |
| shauno | so that's why knowing my mac inside out isn't getting me any DBA posts. damnit! | 01:08 |
| Monsterwizard | ahhh ok | 01:15 |
| Monsterwizard | there's unix books in the library | 01:15 |
| Monsterwizard | unix/library | 01:15 |
| Monsterwizard | Linux in a nutshell | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | could someone go and thump pad.ubuntu-uk.org please? | 01:46 |
| nigelb | ali1234: poke Daviey. | 04:48 |
| nigelb | gord: Was it you that told me "A Time Traveller's Wife" is an excellent movie? | 04:48 |
| nigelb | gord: I just watched it. Lovely! Thanks :-) | 04:48 |
| MartijnVdS | tonytiger: Congratifulations! | 06:22 |
| tonytiger | MartijnVdS: Thanks! | 07:08 |
| DJones | Morning all | 07:21 |
| DJones | I guess a big thought for today is RIP Steve Jobs, thoughts will be with his family and colleagues | 07:22 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 07:27 |
| AlanBell | yes, RIP Steve Jobs, made the industry interesting and raised the bar for everyone | 07:27 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Morning all. Did you see this AlanBell https://twitter.com/#!/opensourcerer/status/121845700291084288 | 07:28 |
| AlanBell | interesting! | 07:29 |
| === JGJones__ is now known as JGJones | ||
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Morning peeps | 08:24 |
| MartijnVdS | \o bigcalm | 08:24 |
| === bigcalm_lappy486 is now known as bigcalm[wolvs] | ||
| selinuxium | Morning all o/ | 08:27 |
| Hippychick | morning | 08:28 |
| oimon | feels a bit more like october today | 08:30 |
| dwatkins | we had dark skies and heavy rain an hour ago here in Edinburgh, now it's brightened-up | 08:38 |
| oimon | it's dropped over 10 degrees since tuesday | 08:39 |
| oimon | more like 15 | 08:39 |
| gordonjcp | we had heavy hailstones | 08:41 |
| JamesTait | Brrrrr! Good moaning! | 08:42 |
| danfish | "Precise Pangolin" | 08:53 |
| gord | are you guys crazy? its sunny! its nice! | 08:54 |
| gord | come talk to me when its snowing :P | 08:54 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | davmor2 is creating some new space aged ambient music with mumble | 08:55 |
| gord | ahh mumble is fun, the game where everyone sits around for two hours, trying to hear each other, then gives up | 08:56 |
| AlanBell | if you want spacey music, you can download http://worldspaceagency.org/bg.gif, rename it to .mp3 and play it | 08:56 |
| AlanBell | some kind of hidden message in there, relating to http://thisisthecountdown.com | 08:57 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Why isn't skype audio working in this place? | 08:57 |
| gord | skype never works on ubuntu for me... | 08:58 |
| gord | try google hangouts, that seems to work fine | 08:58 |
| diplo | We use skype all the time from our ubuntu boxes, Mav/Natty | 08:59 |
| diplo | Google hangouts works well as well, only downside is the bandwith our end sucks | 08:59 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Skype works just fine at home | 09:00 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | I blame Wolverhampton | 09:00 |
| diplo | Wolverhampton is an issue in itse;f | 09:00 |
| diplo | itself* | 09:00 |
| diplo | :P | 09:00 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: prod | 09:00 |
| popey | bigcalm[wolvs]: more importantly, does minecraft work there!? | 09:03 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Ooo | 09:03 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Yep :D | 09:04 |
| popey | hah | 09:07 |
| tim_ | hello fellow interwebs | 09:08 |
| popey | Greetings. | 09:08 |
| tim_ | anyone know if this week in linux channel is dead? | 09:09 |
| popey | well jordan hasn't made many videos recently | 09:10 |
| popey | so it wouldn't surprise me if people aren't hanging out there | 09:10 |
| tim_ | i think he should kill it off completley | 09:10 |
| popey | it's a shame really | 09:11 |
| popey | i think it all tailed off after he stopped getting revenue | 09:11 |
| popey | so it was clearly a money maker for him | 09:11 |
| tim_ | yeah but goes to show he loves his money more | 09:12 |
| oimon | why did the revenue stop? | 09:12 |
| popey | google cancelled his partner account | 09:12 |
| popey | for no reason | 09:12 |
| tim_ | couldnt he get it back if he made more videos | 09:13 |
| popey | tim_: it's hard to motivate yourself to spend hours on something for nothing | 09:13 |
| popey | possibly tim_ | 09:13 |
| oimon | everybody needs to eat | 09:13 |
| popey | indeed | 09:13 |
| tim_ | oimon: agreed im hungry | 09:13 |
| popey | some people have making youtube videos as a full time job | 09:13 |
| popey | like the yogscast guys | 09:13 |
| * oimon has a knack of making people go to their cupboards | 09:13 | |
| tim_ | college makes me hungry | 09:14 |
| Seeker` | popey: I wonder how well off they are as a result of it | 09:14 |
| * czajkowski hugs davmor2 hello my dear | 09:14 | |
| popey | Seeker`: they seem to be doing alright | 09:14 |
| oimon | the LAS guys produce a huge amount of stuff, only income is received by sponsorship by a single company. but it seems to have taken its toll on bryan | 09:15 |
| popey | although i dunno where the revenue comes from, I almost never see adverts | 09:15 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: hello sweetie how's life | 09:15 |
| popey | yeah, boggles me how the LAS guys have time for it | 09:15 |
| oimon | they even have small children | 09:15 |
| Seeker` | popey: not seen that many yogscast videos, don't know how bad they are for product placement | 09:15 |
| Seeker` | popey: I know there are people employed by computer hardware companies to pay WoW and make youtube videos about it | 09:16 |
| tim_ | are all you guys at work? | 09:16 |
| popey | Seeker`: they dont do product placement, but full product play throughs | 09:16 |
| popey | they sit for like 4 hours and record 20 videos | 09:16 |
| oimon | tim_: i am. | 09:16 |
| popey | basically one video and cut it up | 09:16 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: it's all good my dear how is life with you | 09:16 |
| popey | they get hundreds of thousands of views | 09:17 |
| czajkowski | Daviey: oi oi!!! | 09:17 |
| diplo | tim_, I am | 09:17 |
| tim_ | oimon: dont get caught by the admins now ;) | 09:17 |
| oimon | tim_: i AM the admin | 09:17 |
| diplo | Same here :) | 09:17 |
| tim_ | oimon: awesome! | 09:17 |
| tim_ | paided to chat XD | 09:17 |
| diplo | Seperate screen to work machine, just look over occasionally | 09:18 |
| oimon | it doesn't have my full attention :P | 09:18 |
| oimon | except for the last 5 minutes | 09:18 |
| oimon | just finished my email run and fixing issues overnight, emailing people back. some people go for fag or coffee, i go for irc break | 09:19 |
| tim_ | well theres really no one above you to check unless your manager comes up behind | 09:19 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:19 |
| tim_ | morning | 09:19 |
| brobostigon | morning tim_ | 09:20 |
| oimon | about to look into veeam fastscp for backing up vmware images. anyone used it? | 09:20 |
| oimon | currently am backing up via the OS rather than backing up the vm images. :-\ | 09:21 |
| diplo | No but interested how you get oimon :) Something I keep meaning to look at | 09:21 |
| oimon | tim_: if my manager comes up behind, then he's george formby or spiderman since i have a corner office | 09:22 |
| oimon | diplo: the paid vrsion is quite cheap too for .ac.uk users | 09:22 |
| tim_ | my college users .ac.uk | 09:23 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: great sat next to bigcalm[wolvs] so I'll be teaching him the best ways to wind you up ;) | 09:23 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | :D | 09:24 |
| * Laney snuggles popey | 09:24 | |
| Laney | i approve of the cc meeting log | 09:24 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: he won't learn all the years of torture in one day | 09:25 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: we can but try :D | 09:29 |
| * bigcalm[wolvs] hugs czajkowski | 09:30 | |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | I'm too sweet and innocent to be corrupted by davmor2 | 09:30 |
| czajkowski | bigcalm[wolvs]: eh no | 09:32 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: behave | 09:32 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Damn it, skype works and I can take calls now | 09:35 |
| czajkowski | and this is bad because | 09:37 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: work can annoy him | 09:40 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Spent the morning chatting with davmor2 and getting my system to work | 09:41 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | We're doing this work place day because? | 09:41 |
| czajkowski | you get to meet davmor2 | 09:43 |
| czajkowski | which not sure how wise that was | 09:43 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Well, it's certainly a cheerful experience | 09:44 |
| popey | Laney: thanks! | 09:45 |
| * popey notches another person up on the "people who have told him that the cc meeting log reflects more than just popey's opinion" | 09:45 | |
| Laney | My name's Iain Lane and I endorse this message | 09:46 |
| popey | :D | 09:46 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | My name is also Iain and have seen Lane on occasion | 09:47 |
| Laney | it's pretty clear why I got demotivated though; our decisions were repeatedly questioned and challenged in public | 09:48 |
| popey | that too | 09:48 |
| ali1234 | same old story | 09:52 |
| ali1234 | http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2011/09/meego-and-opensuse-invitation.html | 09:52 |
| czajkowski | I think popey raised really good points, I just wish there was more of the CC there to deal with it, my issue with the CC is somethimes they're not at their own meeting | 09:53 |
| czajkowski | we complain about other boards not turning up, but the CC doesn't have a great track record either unless it's the morning one and even then... so it's hard to raise issues but I think popey kicked the ball off | 09:53 |
| ali1234 | at the end of the day, if you *really* want to influence things, your number 1 way of doing that is to take the source and make it do what *you* want | 09:54 |
| MartijnVdS | exactly | 09:54 |
| ali1234 | communities built around commercial open source offerings tend to be sand boxes | 09:56 |
| ali1234 | perhaps i should say "communities" | 09:56 |
| ali1234 | and by sand boxes, what i mean is, the commercial entity gives the "community" lots of tools like mailing lists and wiki pages where they can feel really important | 09:56 |
| ali1234 | but in the end, it's just a giant sandbox that can be easily ignored | 09:57 |
| danfish | \o/ our clinical software supplier are moving from foxpro to postgreSQL | 10:04 |
| danfish | magci | 10:04 |
| MartijnVdS | *\o/* | 10:04 |
| danfish | magic rather :D | 10:04 |
| popey | czajkowski: people do turn up when there's stuff on the agenda | 10:04 |
| popey | czajkowski: they often don't when there isnt | 10:04 |
| czajkowski | popey: aye but the LC turns up even when we don't have stuff on the agenda, but yes I can see also the point of no agenda no turning up | 10:08 |
| czajkowski | but we used that to good use the last day | 10:09 |
| KrisDouglas | Hello guys | 10:22 |
| popey | lo | 10:22 |
| KrisDouglas | I have a dell 1850 in a datacentre at the moment, the system keeps going down. When one of the engi's over there plug a keyboard/disp in to the system it's in a frozen state, almost like a kernel panic. Are there any logs I can read to try and determine the cause of this? | 10:23 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | I really shouldn't be thinking about lunch already | 10:23 |
| popey | KrisDouglas: do a memtest | 10:24 |
| KrisDouglas | bigcalm[wolvs], I'm thinking about lunch at 8am :) | 10:24 |
| oimon | KrisDouglas: and dell diagnostics | 10:24 |
| KrisDouglas | popey, passes, no errors. | 10:24 |
| popey | KrisDouglas: how long for? | 10:24 |
| KrisDouglas | 48 hours the weekend before I fitted it into the DC | 10:24 |
| popey | blimey | 10:24 |
| KrisDouglas | test finished on sunday, server went in on monday | 10:24 |
| KrisDouglas | it's a database server, i'm pedantic like that :) | 10:25 |
| diplo | First place I'd check is kern.log / messages | 10:25 |
| KrisDouglas | ok, so I will check Dell diag, and kern.log | 10:25 |
| KrisDouglas | the reason I think it's software is because it had fedora on it before hand and it ran smoothly. | 10:25 |
| oimon | hard freezes are often hardware related IMO | 10:26 |
| oimon | KrisDouglas: what's on it now? | 10:26 |
| KrisDouglas | oimon, which is my possible concern | 10:26 |
| KrisDouglas | ubuntu server LTS | 10:26 |
| KrisDouglas | 10.04.2? | 10:26 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | I think it's on .3 now | 10:26 |
| KrisDouglas | probably is | 10:27 |
| KrisDouglas | It was fully updated when it went in | 10:27 |
| KrisDouglas | this is curious | 10:28 |
| KrisDouglas | "Oct 6 11:13:35 server2 kernel: [ 74.590292] radeon 0000:09:0d.0: failled initializing CP (-2). | 10:29 |
| KrisDouglas | " | 10:29 |
| KrisDouglas | "Oct 6 11:13:35 server2 kernel: [ 74.590292] radeon 0000:09:0d.0: failled initializing CP (-2)." | 10:29 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | davmor2 has nipped to the loo but has left his laptop unlocked. What sneakyness can I get up to? | 10:29 |
| popey | alias ls=logout | 10:29 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Haha | 10:29 |
| KrisDouglas | hur | 10:30 |
| oimon | run 5 million copies of xeyes | 10:30 |
| popey | haha | 10:30 |
| popey | do what i did to daviey, run a forkbomb | 10:30 |
| oimon | thats mean | 10:30 |
| popey | (when actually what I meant to do was just paste a forkbomb into his terminal) | 10:30 |
| popey | (but copy/pasted from wikipedia and copied the carriage return with it) | 10:30 |
| popey | so when I pasted it ran it | 10:31 |
| oimon | woops | 10:31 |
| popey | and the terminal I did it in was a remote VPS | 10:31 |
| popey | oooooops | 10:31 |
| KrisDouglas | oh crap | 10:31 |
| oimon | deny all knowledge & run awy | 10:31 |
| gord | set an xchat autoreplace to replace all typed mentions of czajkowski to MooDoo | 10:31 |
| popey | oimon: it was at my house | 10:31 |
| oimon | blame the window cleaner :) | 10:31 |
| popey | someone here just walked away from his desk | 10:31 |
| popey | so i opened messenger window to another co-worker and typed "I love you" in it | 10:31 |
| czajkowski | gord: no MooDoo so you're my #2 stand in | 10:32 |
| popey | the remote guy replied "hello alan" | 10:32 |
| popey | knowing it was a prank | 10:32 |
| oimon | sellotape the desk phone "hook" thingy down so that when you pick up the receiver, the phone still rings | 10:32 |
| popey | heh | 10:33 |
| popey | our phones never ring | 10:33 |
| popey | nobody ever uses phones here | 10:33 |
| oimon | did that to a drunk office worker once | 10:33 |
| oimon | and removed the ball from his mouse | 10:33 |
| oimon | then everyone started to ring him | 10:33 |
| popey | we sometimes swap over handsets on adjacent phones | 10:33 |
| popey | or yank the usb lead from a mouse | 10:33 |
| popey | or put paper in the usb port to block the contacts | 10:33 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Office pranks are something I miss since working from home | 10:35 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: what have I told you about picking on gord don't make me come over there and tickle you | 10:35 |
| popey | prank hayley? | 10:35 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | That and the USB rocket launcher that was plugged into the office server | 10:35 |
| oimon | bigcalm: buy a dog..they do the worst pranks | 10:35 |
| gord | i get to play office pranks on my cat | 10:35 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | popey: she doesn't work at home :( | 10:36 |
| popey | she comes home though? | 10:36 |
| popey | I sometimes jump out on clare when she comes through the door | 10:36 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Thankfully she does :) | 10:36 |
| oimon | my mother-in-law's dog nicked my dogs food bowl and buried it in the garden for a prank | 10:36 |
| KrisDouglas | popey, bigcalm[wolvs], oimon, server had panicked, they are plugging an IPKVM in for me so I can run memtest and see if that's what's causing the problem. | 10:36 |
| oimon | does the server have drac? | 10:37 |
| oimon | just finished installing veeam backup..windows only bah | 10:37 |
| === krimzon2 is now known as KrimZon_2 | ||
| * AlanBell smiles as the postman delivers 8GB of ram :) | 10:51 | |
| AlanBell | and the first shipit envelope to put in the pile waiting for Oneiric CDs | 10:52 |
| imexil | AlanBell, popey: I found a solution to my font-background problem: gnome-tweak-tool :) | 10:52 |
| AlanBell | imexil: cool, so that can make bigger fonts? | 10:52 |
| imexil | that too | 10:52 |
| AlanBell | I will put that in the a11y release notes | 10:53 |
| popey | shame it pulls in gnome shell | 10:53 |
| imexil | I was wondering about that | 10:53 |
| imexil | but well as long as there is no unity-tweak-tool it will do | 10:53 |
| gord | i *think* the gnome guys are adding in font settings for the next release. or maybe i dreamt that | 10:54 |
| MartijnVdS | They just removed it! | 10:54 |
| imexil | Ha I just ran gnome-shell --replace (now that this one is installed anyway) ... quite fancy | 10:55 |
| Seeker` | popey: what macs do you have? | 11:07 |
| popey | Seeker`: imac and mbp | 11:08 |
| * Seeker` is considering a mba or mini | 11:08 | |
| * Seeker` doesn't have a house to remortgage for the mbp he would want | 11:10 | |
| * AlanBell has lots of memory :) | 11:11 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | AlanBell: So it worked OK then. | 11:12 |
| AlanBell | yep :) | 11:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | great | 11:13 |
| AlanBell | firefox and virtualbox are now friends again | 11:13 |
| oimon | wow gnome shell is bizarre. how can i show the apps launcher on the screen always? | 11:17 |
| brobostigon | how long does it take google analytics to update, after i have added a new website profile.? | 11:20 |
| diplo | I thinkit can be 24/48 hours brobostigon | 11:21 |
| diplo | 2 secs | 11:21 |
| brobostigon | wow, that is quite a while, ok, thank you diplo. | 11:21 |
| davmor2 | Hmm bigcalm[wolvs] has left his laptop unlocked what mischief can I get up to....... where did I put the super glue..... | 11:22 |
| diplo | yeah 24 hours | 11:23 |
| diplo | Updates every 24 hours | 11:23 |
| brobostigon | thank you, diplo . | 11:23 |
| brobostigon | that is along time, to wait, to see if you have made a mistake, setting it up, to correct it, and then wait another 24hrs. | 11:24 |
| diplo | Yup, so you know the answer | 11:24 |
| diplo | Check, then check twice more to confirm it's correct :P | 11:24 |
| czajkowski | TheOpenSourcerer: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/877704-killer-kismot-curry-contest-leaves-two-in-hospital-in-edinburgh | 11:24 |
| brobostigon | diplo: i have done. | 11:25 |
| Halabund | hello | 11:26 |
| oimon | i get that reaction every time i eat any food with chilli :( | 11:26 |
| Halabund | does firefox in the "UK" version of ubuntu only come with the ask search engine? | 11:26 |
| Halabund | that's all I'm getting | 11:27 |
| oimon | Halabund: how did you install it? | 11:27 |
| gord | no | 11:27 |
| gord | update | 11:27 |
| Halabund | oimon, actually, I just upgraded to 11.10, so maybe that's the problem. But it's not a big deal. | 11:27 |
| Halabund | just wondering | 11:28 |
| gord | there was a bug in the packaging a week or so ago that removed all the search engines but ask.com | 11:28 |
| brobostigon | ask, isnt there, here in ff8. | 11:28 |
| brobostigon | weirldy, twitter is a parameter there. | 11:29 |
| Halabund | ah, I see, thanks gord | 11:32 |
| brobostigon | interesting. | 11:33 |
| Halabund | is there a way to use custom regional settings? I want neither dollar or pound, but euro, while keeping everything in English | 11:33 |
| MartijnVdS | select Irish ;) | 11:34 |
| MartijnVdS | but that's not a solution | 11:35 |
| gord | i think the regional setting is auto-detected by google depending on what site you are on | 11:35 |
| gord | and your ip | 11:35 |
| Halabund | I mean the OS's regional settings, not the browser's | 11:35 |
| Halabund | things like currency and date format | 11:36 |
| gord | oh well then just press super and type language | 11:36 |
| gord | open the language support tool | 11:36 |
| gord | changing the regional settings should do the trick | 11:36 |
| * popey presses super | 11:36 | |
| popey | ♥ | 11:37 |
| Myrtti | third day of headache... boo | 11:37 |
| gord | i don't really know what to call that key for doing support.. | 11:37 |
| gord | if you say windows key, then you screw up googling for more support a little | 11:37 |
| brobostigon | super key, is what i call it, and have seen it mostly refferred to as. | 11:38 |
| Halabund | gord, I was just trying to find out if I can change different values such as language/currency/date separately rather than using a pre-defined thing, like "English (United Kingdom)" which forces on me the pound, which I don't want. | 11:38 |
| gord | Halabund, thats what i'm saying, there are two tabs in that tool, the first sets your language, the second your currency/date | 11:39 |
| Halabund | gord, but on the second one I can't actually choose currency/date. I can only choose a pre-defined language/country combination which includes everything. In WIndows XP I can set a custom currency and custom date format independently of each other | 11:42 |
| gord | no no | 11:43 |
| gord | it sets the currency and date format, but leaves the language alone | 11:43 |
| oimon | argh just got bitten by SELinux when trying to quickly set up samba on a server....grrr! | 11:47 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ red hat | 11:47 |
| oimon | if RHCE taught me anything, it was to check selinux | 11:47 |
| Myrtti | blah | 11:49 |
| Seeker` | hmm? | 11:53 |
| oimon | copying 330GB across the network...hope no-one notices. | 11:54 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | davmor2 is going to town on his laptop's arse | 11:59 |
| oimon | he has a laser cutter? | 12:00 |
| oimon | saw this on reddit http://i.imgur.com/XiQJA.jpg | 12:01 |
| popey | thats pretty | 12:01 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Very nice | 12:02 |
| AlanBell | wrong font :) | 12:03 |
| oimon | that was mentioned | 12:03 |
| oimon | http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/kzcgz/so_one_of_my_colleagues_has_a_laser_cutter/ | 12:04 |
| oimon | i found i can only really read reddit on my tablet cos of the cool app | 12:04 |
| oimon | the website sucks to navigate | 12:04 |
| * bigcalm[wolvs] wants to see the impossible | 12:05 | |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | davmor2 seems to be frothing at the mouth again | 12:17 |
| davmor2 | Muhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | 12:19 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Lunch! | 12:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | czajkowski: You are rather "behind-the-curve" https://twitter.com/#!/opensourcerer/status/121700741994913794 | 12:24 |
| czajkowski | TheOpenSourcerer: I've been busy! | 12:24 |
| Daviey | hola | 12:30 |
| DJones | czajkowski: Don't know if this is of any interst http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15199627? | 12:33 |
| czajkowski | Daviey: you in london | 12:34 |
| czajkowski | Daviey: nice, I'll still never move to NI though :) | 12:35 |
| jpds | czajkowski: Clearly Spain at the moment. | 12:36 |
| * czajkowski peers at jpds be nice, I found you a place to lay your head! | 12:36 | |
| Daviey | czajkowski: i was... :) | 12:38 |
| czajkowski | Daviey: I saw you at paddington | 12:40 |
| czajkowski | now where are you | 12:40 |
| Daviey | czajkowski: behind you | 12:41 |
| selinuxium | Conversation has gone a little creepy... :) | 12:53 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: all I need now is davmor2 in the mix and I'd agree | 12:54 |
| mrevell | Hey, who wants to spend an exciting few minutes on the phone with me? As a bonus, you also get to tell me what you think of some proposed new designs for Launchpad :) | 12:55 |
| czajkowski | ohhh | 12:55 |
| czajkowski | tempting | 12:55 |
| czajkowski | mrevell: are you gonna make things I like or am I gonna come after you and kill you with these changes | 12:56 |
| mrevell | czajkowski, That's for you to tell me :) | 12:56 |
| czajkowski | hmm | 12:56 |
| oimon | just seen a picture of wayne rooney's dad | 13:37 |
| oimon | looks identical except about 5yrs age gap | 13:38 |
| Monsterwizard | how do I uninstall Ubuntu | 13:39 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon: he's older than his dad?! | 13:39 |
| Monsterwizard | from this blooyd virtual machone | 13:39 |
| Azelphur | Monster same way you remove any OS from a VM, you delete the VM | 13:39 |
| oimon | installed gun bros on my touchpad , thought it might be fun..uninstalled 10 mins later...massive lag :( | 13:40 |
| Monsterwizard | the program crashes each time I open it | 13:40 |
| Monsterwizard | and when I go to delete it from the file manager | 13:40 |
| Monsterwizard | I can't! | 13:40 |
| Monsterwizard | it's read only | 13:41 |
| Azelphur | which program | 13:41 |
| GirlyGirl | oimon: on your touchpad?? | 13:41 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: boo! | 13:41 |
| oimon | GirlyGirl: yeah | 13:41 |
| Monsterwizard | Orcale's | 13:41 |
| * czajkowski pours a bucket of water over davmor2 behave | 13:41 | |
| Azelphur | Monsterwizard: have you tried running it from a terminal to see why it crashes? | 13:41 |
| GirlyGirl | oimon: Like the pointing device of a laptop?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchpad | 13:41 |
| Monsterwizard | Just about too | 13:41 |
| oimon | GirlyGirl: like the hp tablet :P | 13:42 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: :P | 13:42 |
| Monsterwizard | yep | 13:42 |
| Monsterwizard | not running | 13:42 |
| Monsterwizard | :/ | 13:42 |
| Monsterwizard | I'm going to uninstall the WHOLE program | 13:43 |
| DJones | oimon: I thought Rooney's dad looked like Phil Mitchell from Eastenders | 13:43 |
| Azelphur | Monsterwizard: if your not going to listen to what people have to say in here, then there's not a lot of point in asking | 13:43 |
| oimon | DJones: he is also an alleged crook it seems | 13:43 |
| DJones | I saw that | 13:43 |
| Monsterwizard | Azelphur :/ I tried from the termina | 13:43 |
| Monsterwizard | terminal* | 13:43 |
| Azelphur | Monsterwizard: so where's the output? | 13:44 |
| oimon | also looks a bit like phil coolins if phil collins ate all the pies | 13:44 |
| DJones | Heh, speaking of touchpads, http://www.techworld.com.au/article/403159/hp_investigates_android_touchpads/?fp=16&fpid=1#closeme | 13:44 |
| Azelphur | !pastebin | Monsterwizard | 13:44 |
| lubotu3 | Monsterwizard: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 13:44 |
| Monsterwizard | I don#t know what you are refering too (noob) | 13:45 |
| diplo | Monsterwizard, You post the errors from using terminal to pastebin so Azelphur can see output | 13:45 |
| diplo | or anyone for that matter | 13:45 |
| Azelphur | ^ | 13:45 |
| oimon | DJones: the simples meerkat is working on the android touchpad port | 13:46 |
| Monsterwizard | ok so I type the program name in the temrinal without the & | 13:46 |
| Monsterwizard | ? | 13:46 |
| diplo | Can also use pastebininit | 13:46 |
| Azelphur | Monsterwizard: yep | 13:46 |
| oimon | check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IVkj_vdY6s voiced by simples | 13:46 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | That was a decent lunch | 13:47 |
| AlanBell | mrevell: did you get someone to talk to? | 13:47 |
| AlanBell | http://worldspaceagency.org/ | 13:48 |
| AlanBell | oooh | 13:48 |
| diplo | Wat an awful site AlanBell :) | 13:49 |
| AlanBell | diplo: yeah, but that is part of the game | 13:49 |
| AlanBell | http://askubuntu.com/questions/64284/what-does-thisisthecountdown-com-count-down-to | 13:50 |
| diplo | :) | 13:50 |
| AlanBell | http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/ the apparent corruption on the background image is part of it too | 13:51 |
| diplo | heh, someone having fun then | 13:52 |
| AlanBell | it is being discussed in #awholenewworld | 13:52 |
| drussell | heh looks like the logo for "falling skies" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falling_Skies | 15:01 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | What does? | 15:13 |
| AlanBell | the background on thisisthecountdown.com | 15:29 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Oh | 15:30 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | This not working from home has really shut me up today | 15:30 |
| popey | :D good | 15:31 |
| popey | (in a nice way) | 15:31 |
| kvarley | I've downloaded a tar archive which contains multiple deb packages to install Lazurus, is there a way to install them all at once? | 15:32 |
| popey | dpkg -i *.deb | 15:34 |
| kvarley | popey: Thank you once again =) | 15:35 |
| popey | np | 15:35 |
| * popey has no idea what lazarus is | 15:35 | |
| popey | !lazarus | 15:35 |
| popey | bah | 15:35 |
| popey | http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_release_version_for_Ubuntu | 15:36 |
| popey | you doing that? | 15:36 |
| oimon | was it dead for a while? | 15:37 |
| * oimon has been in the productivity zone today. don't want to go home, but has to :( | 15:38 | |
| * bigcalm[wolvs] tickles popey | 15:38 | |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Bit early to be going home | 15:39 |
| kvarley | popey: Yes | 15:39 |
| oimon | goign home in 1/2 hr but thinking about how much i can get done | 15:39 |
| oimon | have tomorrow off | 15:39 |
| czajkowski | 1 hr 15 mins left | 15:43 |
| czajkowski | wonder would anyone notice if I crawled under the desk and slept | 15:43 |
| oimon | might get noted on your next probation meeting | 15:46 |
| === bigcalm_lappy486 is now known as bigcalm[wolvs] | ||
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Attempting some Unity love. I will blame davmor2 for any out-bursts | 15:51 |
| davmor2 | hahahahahahahahaha | 15:52 |
| oimon | also i dislike gnome shell, seems a lot faster than unity | 15:52 |
| Monsterwizard | I miss os/2 | 15:54 |
| Monsterwizard | and I was born in the early 90s :/ | 15:54 |
| davmor2 | bring back basic 10 print "you suck"; 20 goto 10 | 15:55 |
| * gord should add that to unity | 15:55 | |
| gord | frankly, if your OS doesn't have a basic interpretor built in, it ain't worth squat! | 15:56 |
| oimon | i wrote my computing GCSE project in BBC Basic | 15:56 |
| oimon | in 1990 | 15:56 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | gord: please be careful. davmor2 will squirt coffee out of his nose due to laughing in a moment | 15:56 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | As did I, in 1995 | 15:57 |
| davmor2 | hahahahahaha, no I think you're in more danger of that bigcalm | 15:57 |
| Monsterwizard | computer 'science' is the most absurd name for that field | 15:59 |
| oimon | the syllabus contained discussion of card readers | 15:59 |
| oimon | basically it was learning by rote, without any real world application since 1970 | 16:00 |
| oimon | except we covered generational tape backups | 16:00 |
| oimon | it's easier to get an A in computing than textiles or the other lame "tech" subjects back then | 16:01 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Anybody fancy a game of Tetris? | 16:01 |
| * oimon sings the tune | 16:03 | |
| czajkowski | davmor2: less snorting! | 16:05 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | I feel ill now | 16:05 |
| davmor2 | hahaha | 16:05 |
| JGJones | Dear Ubuntu - damn you for making me feel like an old fart. | 16:06 |
| JGJones | Personal info - enter your birthday. In year...I was clicking back each year...ended up holding down to scroll back quickly as I realised I'll have to click over 30 times. | 16:07 |
| davmor2 | do do do do dodedo do do do dodedo do do do do do do do dodedo do do dodedo do do do do dodedo do do do do | 16:08 |
| DJones | davmor2: You need the "Identification Division" first, then you can have the "Display 'You suck'" line | 16:08 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | davmor2 is funny in the head | 16:08 |
| davmor2 | DJones: no it's basic that fills the screen across and down with you suck! | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm[wolvs]: It took you this long to figure it out | 16:09 |
| DJones | You need to rewrite it in cobol though | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | DJones: I did specifically say basic | 16:10 |
| DJones | But thats no fun | 16:10 |
| Monsterwizard | C or Java? | 16:16 |
| czajkowski | http://gigaom.com/cloud/rackspace-gives-up-the-openstack-reins/ | 16:17 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Iain: Keep your eyes on the monitor | 16:30 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | *sigh* | 16:30 |
| davmor2 | hahahaha | 16:30 |
| JGJones | Forgive my fuzzy memory, but is Thunderbird now the default mail app in 10.10? And thus Evolution no longer needed? Or is it still required for calendaring stuff? | 16:34 |
| NathanaelG | Hi folks, nice to meet you | 16:34 |
| NathanaelG | I have an off topic problem where I need someone in the uk helping me | 16:34 |
| gord | JGJones, thunderbird is the default in 11.10 :) | 16:36 |
| gord | JGJones, there might be a small part of evo still installed somewhere, for gnome compatibility | 16:36 |
| JGJones | Lovely. What about calendar though? That's still handled by Evolution? Ie I go into Evolution for calendar stuff and Thunderbird for emails? | 16:37 |
| gord | evo the application isn't installed, so i doubt it | 16:38 |
| gord | NathanaelG, if you actually ask your question, someone might be able to help you :) no point in asking to ask | 16:38 |
| NathanaelG | ok, OT, though. I am a big fan of dragons and there is a product one can only order in the uk. I would prepay of course, it s about 40 pound | 16:39 |
| NathanaelG | And I know noone in the uk :-( | 16:39 |
| bigcalm[wolvs] | Screw you guys, I'm going home | 16:39 |
| NathanaelG | bigcalm[wolvs]: hope it wasn t me causing it ;-) | 16:40 |
| Monsterwizard | in virtual box | 16:41 |
| Monsterwizard | I can't make it to go full screen | 16:41 |
| Monsterwizard | the full screen view...isn't full screen | 16:42 |
| kvarley | Monsterwizard: You need to install guest editions or edit the resolution mode using VboxManage | 16:43 |
| NathanaelG | Would someone be so kind as to help me out with this? | 16:43 |
| Monsterwizard | Kvarley ahhh I'm on it | 16:43 |
| Monsterwizard | kvarley I'm guessing install the guest editions would be easier | 16:44 |
| kvarley | Monsterwizard: Yup | 16:45 |
| Monsterwizard | ooo got an update for virtual box to install firsr | 16:45 |
| Monsterwizard | which is the best virtual disk to use? | 16:53 |
| Monsterwizard | Bloody hell D: | 16:53 |
| Monsterwizard | There's VDI, VMDK, VHD, HDD | 16:53 |
| kirrus | Monsterwizard: virtual disk? You mean, RAM file system? | 16:59 |
| Monsterwizard | I choose virtual disk in the ned | 16:59 |
| Monsterwizard | I'm not sure | 16:59 |
| kirrus | Monsterwizard: not sure what you're after! :) | 16:59 |
| Monsterwizard | lol me too :P | 16:59 |
| Monsterwizard | Gotta learn about this stuff | 16:59 |
| JGJones | hmm...did 10.10 remove the "Leave a message" function from the screensaver lock screen? | 17:02 |
| === roman is now known as Guest7890 | ||
| Monsterwizard | JGJones god no | 17:03 |
| JGJones | Monsterwizard, look like it's removed...don't see the Leave Message button. | 17:04 |
| Monsterwizard | :O | 17:04 |
| kirrus | I'm running gnome2 on 10.10, and it's still got it, so probably something to do with unity | 17:05 |
| kirrus | (unity decided that swapping around my workspaces randomly every now and then was fun) | 17:06 |
| Univoid | hi guys i looking for a good IDE for c++ monodevelop is good but lacks good code completion also it hangs an awful lot | 17:06 |
| Monsterwizard | netbeans | 17:07 |
| kirrus | Eclipse? | 17:07 |
| Monsterwizard | virtual machine scares me | 17:09 |
| Monsterwizard | it wont actually touch windows partition will it? | 17:09 |
| dwatkins | it can't, Monsterwizard | 17:24 |
| dwatkins | (well it can if you configure a shared drive that the guest operating system can write to, but generally the guest can't make changes on the host) | 17:24 |
| Univoid | i have tried eclipse from repositories but it does not seem an up to date version | 17:30 |
| * bigcalm returns to haunt you all | 18:22 | |
| mgdm | nooooooooooooooooo | 18:23 |
| * gord gets out the ghost-b-gone | 18:25 | |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: Boo! | 18:27 |
| * mgdm calls the Ghostbusters | 18:27 | |
| bigcalm | ARGH | 18:29 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: sorry for the quick departure this evening. I had pre-agreed to be home to have dinner with Hayley. If you fancy going to the pub next month to laugh at the sober people, that would be fun | 18:30 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: no I wanted to get home for tea anyway. | 18:31 |
| bigcalm | Fair enough | 18:32 |
| Azelphur | are there any alternatives to conky? | 18:36 |
| jacobw | gkrellm? | 18:39 |
| jacobw | its quite old school | 18:39 |
| Azelphur | yea, I don't really like oldschool :/ | 18:40 |
| Azelphur | I'm into new and shiny | 18:40 |
| Azelphur | that's the problem with conky really, it's rather old and non-modular, doesn't have proper transparency and is kinda buggy | 18:42 |
| Azelphur | and the config for it is rather bad too :p | 18:42 |
| Monsterwizard | http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16084156 | 19:05 |
| Monsterwizard | http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16084156 | 19:05 |
| Monsterwizard | Brace yourself for the £10 loaf everybody! | 19:05 |
| AlanBell | we can always eat cake instead | 19:06 |
| popey | or pie | 19:09 |
| popey | mmmm pie | 19:09 |
| popey | http://drool.popey.com/ | 19:09 |
| popey | -!- TheOpenSourcerer [~alord@81-178-65-1.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: Getting Pie.] | 19:09 |
| === JGJones__ is now known as JGJones | ||
| * AlanBell is using putty on windows :( | 19:16 | |
| Monsterwizard | putty? | 19:16 |
| Monsterwizard | I'm stuck | 19:16 |
| AlanBell | friend sprung the "can you fix this laptop?" thing on me | 19:16 |
| Azelphur | IT'S A TRAP. RUN. | 19:17 |
| Monsterwizard | I can't make the virtual box go true full screen | 19:17 |
| AlanBell | putty is a windows ssh client | 19:17 |
| Monsterwizard | why don't they do this by default? | 19:17 |
| Monsterwizard | Virtual PC from MS does :/ | 19:17 |
| AlanBell | Monsterwizard: right control+f | 19:17 |
| Azelphur | why would you want a VM in full screen? :/ | 19:17 |
| Azelphur | that makes no sense, you might as well run the OS native lol | 19:17 |
| AlanBell | (or left control if they wired your keyboard backwards) | 19:17 |
| Monsterwizard | Azelphur | 19:18 |
| Monsterwizard | :P I know | 19:18 |
| Monsterwizard | but something went terribly wrong once | 19:18 |
| Monsterwizard | my screen goes dimmer when I use ubuntu in Virtual Box | 19:30 |
| === Lcawte is now known as LewisCawte | ||
| gr33npeace | evening everyone... I've updated to the latest version of flash in both firefox 7 and chrome 14 and it's actually locking up the whole OS... can't even drop down to one of the other ttys | 20:05 |
| gr33npeace | is anyone else seeing this, or can you help me diagnose? :) | 20:05 |
| Monsterwizard | ubuntu? | 20:07 |
| Monsterwizard | I'm updating everything now to see if the problem is universal | 20:07 |
| Monsterwizard | have you tried google? | 20:07 |
| gr33npeace | yes... only updated this morning though, and couldn't find much online.. | 20:08 |
| gr33npeace | ubuntu 11.04, running on a Dell m1330 w/ nvidia | 20:08 |
| gr33npeace | best way to reproduce it, as far as I can see, is to watch a youtube video or two, and then close the tab | 20:09 |
| Monsterwizard | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppTSCKordZs&feature=fvwrel | 20:10 |
| Monsterwizard | yup it works >.< | 20:10 |
| gr33npeace | Monsterwizard: it crashed your system as well? | 20:11 |
| Monsterwizard | noppe | 20:13 |
| Monsterwizard | it's just as terrible as ever D: | 20:13 |
| Monsterwizard | try the main ubuntu support channel | 20:13 |
| gr33npeace | hahaha, ok thanks mate :) | 20:13 |
| gr33npeace | I suspect it's going to be something nvidia-y | 20:14 |
| Monsterwizard | Can someone tell me a story | 20:57 |
| Monsterwizard | of themselves doing as really cool electronics project | 20:57 |
| Monsterwizard | EEs always have cool stories | 20:57 |
| KrimZon_2 | for some reason newer ubuntus don't connect to my wireless network | 21:11 |
| KrimZon_2 | although I'm currently trying xubuntu 11.10 beta | 21:12 |
| silner | KrimZon_2, What card? | 21:14 |
| KrimZon_2 | I can't remember | 21:15 |
| KrimZon_2 | I copied manual settings off another machine - it might be my network config that I forgot about | 21:15 |
| KrimZon_2 | bah, the installer crashed | 21:35 |
| KrimZon_2 | claiming the disc was corrupt or something | 21:35 |
| === JGJones__ is now known as JGJones | ||
| Azelphur | Ok I officially won at breaking things, Nobody can beat me now. http://imgur.com/iHPn6 | 22:52 |
| mgdm | did you break sudo or the reboot command, though? :) | 22:54 |
| Azelphur | I think I broke everything, pretty much anything I ran segfaulted | 22:54 |
| Azelphur | hard rebooted, dropped to a tty and did an apt-get upgrade, that seemed to fix whatever it was | 22:54 |
| mgdm | I suspect something like a mismatched glibc or some similar exciting thing | 22:55 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 22:55 |
| Seeker` | Azelphur: wut?! You're like the grim reaper for computers | 23:23 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 23:24 |
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