[03:22] <c_smith> hyello
[03:23] <c_smith> RIP Steve Jobs
[03:23] <MarkDude> yep
[03:23]  * MarkDude has noticed that all sorts of FOSS people are reflecting on Jobs
[03:23] <MarkDude> With all sorts of positive stuff
[03:24] <c_smith> even though some of us don't like his company, most cannot deny he really was an innovator.
[03:24] <MarkDude> Yep
[03:24] <MarkDude> and also a visiaonary
[03:24] <c_smith> bkerensa, you floating around here?
[03:24] <MarkDude> visionary
[03:25] <c_smith> but Apple really did have some great products, and some bad ones, like almost every other company.
[03:25] <MarkDude> Well I have never used for any amount of time or bought any Apple stuff
[03:26] <MarkDude> But I like how some of his ideas have changed what I use
[03:26] <c_smith> true.
[03:26]  * MarkDude remembers going to OSCON, right after the 1st Iphone
[03:26] <MarkDude> there were big circles of folks gathered to see
[03:27] <c_smith> damn..... Banshee decides to go on the fritz again....
[03:27] <c_smith> not sure how to invoke a bug report about banshee without a crash, either.
[03:27] <MarkDude> Each year since that has happened, I have noticed how much just that has influenced FOSS as far as trying to create a FLOW with things
[03:28] <MarkDude> Hmmm
[03:28] <MarkDude> I mostly use VLC
[03:28] <MarkDude> it crashes every so often
[03:28] <c_smith> meh, I use banshee for ease of use, and my Ipod,
[03:28]  * MarkDude accepts it - and cant complain to any Distro about that
[03:28] <c_smith> guess I could try VLC.
[03:28] <c_smith> good thing I installed it,
[03:29] <MarkDude> VLC made me fall in love for repairing friends MS machines
[03:29] <MarkDude> Media player often dies, it is easy to install and change associations to replace it
[03:30] <MarkDude> Quicker than seeing why (besides it sucks) media player gets sick
[03:30] <c_smith> bleh, it's not Banshee, OR VLC, must be something more serious, with VLC, no sound at all, Banshee, refuses to play even when play is clicked.
[03:31] <MarkDude> Banshee sometimes gives me streaming error- where I can play sumthin- but not aqdjust the part I want to listen to
[03:32] <c_smith> I'm not getting an error, just not playing, it shows play/pause is clicked, but nothing else, just an icon change.
[03:32] <c_smith> ofc, this IS beta 2.
[03:33] <c_smith> I can usually fix this problem ONLY with a restart of the PC. something under the hood must be going wrong,
[03:33] <nathwill> definitely the alternator
[03:34] <c_smith> is there a way to invoke a bug report manually?
[03:34] <c_smith> heh, nice, I actually lol'd
[03:35] <c_smith> wow..... no sound in ANYTHING! not even Firefox.
[03:35] <nathwill> :p
[03:35] <nathwill> does ubuntu use abrt?
[03:35] <nathwill> i think it does...
[03:35] <c_smith> ubuntu uses Apport for bugs I believe.
[03:36] <c_smith> unless your talking about something completely unrelated.
[03:36] <nathwill> nah, i was talking about the bug reporting
[03:36] <nathwill> i get mixed up about which tools go with which dist sometimes...
[03:37] <nathwill> looks like "ubuntu-bug application" will do what you want...
[03:37] <nathwill> i guess the question now is what is failing...
[03:37] <nathwill> pulse?
[03:39] <c_smith> after Firefox crashed, opened Chromium, got the info I needed, for the no sound at all, at least, the command being apport-bug
[03:40] <nathwill> pffft
[03:40] <c_smith> apparently, the sound was ALSA.
[03:40] <c_smith> now I'm not sure what to do about Banshee.
[05:08] <nathwill> aw ffs
[05:09] <nathwill> bkerensa i hate when you're right
[05:09] <nathwill> http://status.linode.com/
[15:48] <tgm4883> Precise Pangolin?
[15:48] <tgm4883> WTF is a Pangolin?
[15:50] <tgm4883> Apparently Penguin was too obvious
[17:17] <adam_g> did the oneiric release party get rescheduled?
[19:49] <c_smith> g'day