| Kilos | morning superfly and other early birds | 05:49 |
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| superfly | morning Kilos | 05:50 |
| sakhi | morning Kilos superfly and #ubuntu-za | 06:25 |
| Kilos | hi there sakhi | 06:25 |
| superfly | morning sakhi | 06:25 |
| Kilos | morning MPD morgs sdehaan | 07:16 |
| Kilos | aw i missed squirm | 07:16 |
| morgs | hiya | 07:22 |
| superfly | yo morgs! | 07:27 |
| magespawn | howdy all | 07:50 |
| Kilos | hiya magespawn | 07:50 |
| magespawn | hey kilos | 07:51 |
| magespawn | i have a little problem | 07:51 |
| magespawn | my laptop is giving me a grub rescue prompt | 07:52 |
| Kilos | tell what it is then someone will try to help you | 07:52 |
| Kilos | oh my | 07:52 |
| Kilos | been there | 07:52 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google grub rescue prompt on booting | 07:53 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Grub2 - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 :: "Booting from Grub Rescue" http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/booting-from-grub-rescue-582799/ :: "How to chroot Ubuntu using Live CD to fix GRUB rescue prompt ..." http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/ :: "Solving Boot Problems with Grub - 2nd Edition" http://www.linuxf | 07:53 |
| Kilos | do you have a live cd magespawn | 07:54 |
| Kilos | or bootable ubuntu stick | 07:55 |
| magespawn | have both | 07:55 |
| Kilos | one of the above links will help you | 07:56 |
| magespawn | ty will have a look | 07:56 |
| Kilos | http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/ | 07:56 |
| Kilos | methinks that one | 07:56 |
| magespawn | yup the others are for a dual boot setup | 07:58 |
| magespawn | well at least it is only the rgub | 08:05 |
| magespawn | ]grub | 08:05 |
| magespawn | i will get this right grub | 08:05 |
| Kilos | mine did that once and that chroot bit worked | 08:06 |
| Kilos | you actually use the cd to reinstall grub if i member right | 08:06 |
| nuvolari | o/ lo everyone | 08:18 |
| magespawn | hi nuvolari | 08:27 |
| Kilos | more nuvolari | 08:27 |
| magespawn | kilos slight problem when i enter this $ sudo mount /dev/sdax /mnt/myroot | 08:35 |
| magespawn | where sdax is the hard drive | 08:35 |
| Kilos | sda1 | 08:35 |
| Kilos | what else is on the pc | 08:35 |
| magespawn | nothing just ubuntu | 08:36 |
| Kilos | then its sda1 | 08:36 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 08:36 |
| Kilos | magespawn, if i remember right some of the steps didnt seem to work here either but at the end it still fixed the grub | 08:37 |
| magespawn | okay | 08:37 |
| magespawn | will persist | 08:37 |
| Kilos | the last half or even 1/2 of the commands | 08:37 |
| kbmonkey | hello Kilos | 08:38 |
| Kilos | 1/4 | 08:38 |
| kbmonkey | hi magespawn | 08:38 |
| kbmonkey | did you get right with the upgrade? | 08:38 |
| Kilos | he booted to grub rescue kbmonkey | 08:38 |
| kbmonkey | ah well no i'm lost, I thought it was an upgrade :p | 08:39 |
| magespawn | that was another machine | 08:40 |
| magespawn | this is my laptop | 08:40 |
| kbmonkey | wow hows that news for apple | 08:46 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, when is our next meeting? | 08:47 |
| kbmonkey | Im not sure Kilos, but don't think I can chair it. have no net in the evenings for the while | 08:48 |
| Kilos | make the usb modem work and only use irc then data will be min | 08:49 |
| kbmonkey | wow there sure are some smelly folks here in the internet cafe o_O | 08:50 |
| kbmonkey | ha ha ha | 08:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:50 |
| Kilos | you gotta chair the meeting. jou werk is jou werk | 08:52 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn | 08:53 |
| nlsthzn | Good morning/afternoon uncle Kilos | 08:53 |
| Kilos | oh ya you 2 hours ahead hey | 08:54 |
| kbmonkey | think the last monday of the month? | 08:57 |
| Kilos | lol so you got time to get organised then | 08:58 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:58 |
| nlsthzn | o/ kbmonkey | 08:59 |
| kbmonkey | hi nlsthzn // | 08:59 |
| magespawn | i used this kilos https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Rescue_Mode_.28.27.27grub_rescue.3E.27.27.29_Booting | 09:02 |
| Kilos | and its fixed magespawn ? | 09:02 |
| magespawn | well i can get into my laptop but now i have to tell it to use that all the the time | 09:03 |
| magespawn | 1. set prefix=(hdX,Y)/boot/grub | 09:04 |
| magespawn | 2.* set root=(hdX,Y) | 09:04 |
| magespawn | 3. insmod normal | 09:04 |
| magespawn | 4. normal | 09:04 |
| Kilos | sudo update-grub | 09:04 |
| magespawn | after that it boots into my laptop straight away | 09:04 |
| Kilos | once in you should be able to fix it | 09:05 |
| magespawn | nope | 09:05 |
| Kilos | look in synaptic and reinstall grub-pc and grub2 i think | 09:05 |
| Kilos | oh | 09:06 |
| Kilos | wait while i think | 09:06 |
| Kilos | whew | 09:07 |
| Kilos | got some memories of actually removing grub then installing again | 09:07 |
| magespawn | when i use those command above i get into my laptop but when i restart i end up back at the grub rescue prompt | 09:08 |
| Kilos | there is a way to get boot back | 09:08 |
| Kilos | i think i was bootpc wait i go look in synaptic | 09:09 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install boot-repair | 09:10 |
| Kilos | and boot-repair-ubuntu i think | 09:12 |
| kbmonkey | magespawn, did you try run update-grub as Kilos said? | 09:15 |
| kbmonkey | that should redetect and recreate your grub settings | 09:15 |
| magespawn | yup but on restart still came up with grub rescue prompt | 09:15 |
| Kilos | try boot-repair magespawn | 09:16 |
| Kilos | something wrong in grub.cfg | 09:17 |
| Kilos | or the link between | 09:18 |
| Kilos | um | 09:18 |
| Kilos | mbr and boot missing | 09:18 |
| kbmonkey | did you try reinstall grub with the grub-install command? | 09:18 |
| kbmonkey | reinstalling grub via synaptic wont do anything useful | 09:18 |
| Kilos | i tried so many things i cant remember all of them | 09:19 |
| kbmonkey | magespawn, in a terminal do 'man grub-install' | 09:19 |
| kbmonkey | it tells you how to install it. do this from within your ubuntu | 09:20 |
| Kilos | i think i actually had to do it from root once as well | 09:20 |
| Kilos | sudo -i | 09:20 |
| kbmonkey | thats right Kilos, you need root/admin access to do any grub stuff | 09:21 |
| kbmonkey | the mbr sounds fine as you get to what is called the stage 1 boot loader | 09:21 |
| kbmonkey | try grub-install and that will replace any broken grub files, and it should also udpate in one go | 09:22 |
| kbmonkey | my time is up again folks | 09:22 |
| Kilos | ah, i installed everything again, mbr included | 09:22 |
| Kilos | ok kbmonkey be good and see ya soon | 09:22 |
| Kilos | ty for the help | 09:22 |
| magespawn | later kbmonkey | 09:22 |
| magespawn | ty | 09:23 |
| kbmonkey | that ubuntu help page on grub is pretty comprehensive, just take your time with it :) | 09:23 |
| Kilos | yeah it must be repairable back to standard boot without needing commands in grub rescue | 09:24 |
| kbmonkey | grub rescue is the same as grub ;) | 09:25 |
| kbmonkey | useful if you cannot get into your normal system | 09:25 |
| Kilos | yeah but its frightening to boot to the grub rescue prompt then you need other commands | 09:25 |
| kbmonkey | a live usb/cd would also work | 09:26 |
| Kilos | he tried that as well | 09:26 |
| Kilos | used these to get in | 09:26 |
| Kilos | <magespawn> 1. set prefix=(hdX,Y)/boot/grub | 09:26 |
| Kilos | <magespawn> 2.* set root=(hdX,Y) | 09:26 |
| Kilos | <magespawn> 3. insmod normal | 09:26 |
| Kilos | <magespawn> 4. normal | 09:26 |
| magespawn | that is not working now either now i am booting fron live cd | 09:27 |
| Kilos | eish | 09:27 |
| Kilos | what happened | 09:27 |
| Kilos | now try the first links commands | 09:28 |
| magespawn | not so serious will just reinstall if i have too | 09:28 |
| Kilos | the chroot ones | 09:28 |
| magespawn | who knows me messing around thats what | 09:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:28 |
| kbmonkey | this help page saved my butt many times, the methods here do work :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 09:29 |
| kbmonkey | ciao amigos! | 09:29 |
| Kilos | magespawn, did that lappy have winsucks on before | 09:32 |
| magespawn | yes | 09:34 |
| magespawn | but been running ubuntu long time now | 09:34 |
| Kilos | i remember xp adds something to mbr that blocked ubuntu getting in here and install mbr from root fixed that | 09:35 |
| Kilos | very frustrating prob that | 09:35 |
| Kilos | magespawn, did the boot-repair tool not work or havent you tried it? | 09:39 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's not that the MBR "blocks" Ubuntu, its just doesn't support anything other than Windows | 09:39 |
| magespawn | where was i supposed to try that from again? | 09:39 |
| magespawn | lol | 09:40 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install boot-repair | 09:40 |
| magespawn | but from the live cd | 09:40 |
| magespawn | ? | 09:40 |
| Kilos | then you find it in system admin | 09:40 |
| Kilos | mount your drive | 09:41 |
| Kilos | those chroot commands | 09:41 |
| Kilos | then install boot-repair | 09:41 |
| Kilos | i dont know if installing from the cd actually goes into your installation if you dont mount the drive first | 09:43 |
| Kilos | try it from the cd and see if you find it in system administration | 09:44 |
| magespawn | could not find package | 09:45 |
| magespawn | when i type sudo update-grub i get cannot find a device for / is it mounted? | 09:49 |
| magespawn | yes it | 09:49 |
| Kilos | oh my | 09:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google boot-repair for ubuntu | 09:50 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Boot-Repair - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Community Ubuntu ..." https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows :: ""Boot-Repair": Fix Ubuntu Boot Issues (After Installing Another OS Or ..." http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/boot-repair-fix-ubuntu-boot-issues.html :: "Boot-Repair - Simple tool to repair frequent boot | 09:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, hellooooo | 09:50 |
| Maaz | Kilos: What? | 09:50 |
| Kilos | oh ty superfly | 09:51 |
| Kilos | magespawn, what happens if you do sudo update | 09:52 |
| Kilos | i have boot-repair in synaptic | 09:53 |
| Kilos | whew head not working well | 09:53 |
| magespawn | hold on | 09:53 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get update i think | 09:53 |
| magespawn | brb something happening hold on | 09:58 |
| Kilos | k | 09:59 |
| magespawn | taking awhile to load the boot-repair | 10:01 |
| magespawn | but that is now installed and up and running | 10:02 |
| magespawn | this here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair | 10:02 |
| magespawn | busy running through the first option now | 10:03 |
| Kilos | there was clean-ubiquity as well | 10:04 |
| Kilos | i dunno if they come together | 10:05 |
| magespawn | here we go lets see what happens now | 10:05 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffe would be nice | 10:10 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Got it | 10:10 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 10:10 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 10:10 | |
| magespawn | that worked | 10:11 |
| magespawn | yes | 10:11 |
| magespawn | yes yes | 10:11 |
| Kilos | lol yay | 10:11 |
| Kilos | i told you that long ago | 10:12 |
| magespawn | right now i have to try and get the other machine to work as well | 10:12 |
| Kilos | whats wrong there | 10:12 |
| Kilos | while you on this one reinstall mbr | 10:12 |
| Kilos | try get rid of the windows stuff in mbr | 10:13 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude reinstall mbr | 10:13 |
| Kilos | Maaz, hurry | 10:13 |
| Maaz | Hey! Kilos Patience is a virtue, | 10:13 |
| Kilos | sigh | 10:13 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 10:14 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 10:14 |
| Maaz | Enjoy Kilos | 10:14 |
| Kilos | Maaz, boot-repair | 10:15 |
| Maaz | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair | 10:15 |
| magespawn | brb just changing pc | 10:34 |
| magespawn | howdy | 10:41 |
| Kilos | wb | 10:41 |
| magespawn | now on the phone | 10:41 |
| magespawn | now all i have to do today is get the upgrade system working | 10:46 |
| magespawn | kilos ty for the help | 10:48 |
| Kilos | you welcome magespawn | 10:49 |
| magespawn | kilos i think the problem with the upgrade is the hard ware only 256mb of ram. | 11:13 |
| Kilos | eish | 11:13 |
| magespawn | going to try lubuntu | 11:14 |
| DraZoro | Good day all | 11:42 |
| DraZoro | /me waves to sdehaan | 11:46 |
| superfly | Hi DraZoro | 11:46 |
| DraZoro | Hello superfly | 11:46 |
| DraZoro | I have just installed 11.10 on my desktop ..it looks amazing | 11:47 |
| * nlsthzn agrees | 11:49 | |
| magespawn | howdy all | 11:59 |
| superfly | magespawn: so how was lubuntu? | 12:02 |
| magespawn | looks like the download i have has a problem will not install to the usb drive | 12:02 |
| magespawn | will download it again | 12:05 |
| Kilos | eish | 12:11 |
| Kilos | lekker not having data caps | 12:12 |
| Kilos | hi DraZoro | 12:12 |
| DraZoro | Hello Kilos | 12:12 |
| * DraZoro pays a tribute to Steve Jobs ...may he Rest In Peace | 12:13 | |
| superfly | DraZoro: ah, but the big question is, Will Steve Jobs be laid to rest under an apple tree? | 12:15 |
| DraZoro | superfly: That is a good question ...I think that will make a big mark. | 12:16 |
| DraZoro | I sow some one go G+ said iPhone 4S = iPhone 4 Steave Jobs | 12:16 |
| magespawn | Yup Kilos uncapped adsl ftw | 12:16 |
| Kilos | yeah | 12:17 |
| superfly | magespawn: indeed, uncapped FTW :-D | 12:17 |
| magespawn | only 1mbps though i NEED more speed | 12:17 |
| DraZoro | Hello magespawn | 12:17 |
| magespawn | hi DraZorro | 12:17 |
| magespawn | at that speed it is going to take me an hour or so to get it | 12:18 |
| Kilos | hehe try 48kB/s | 12:18 |
| DraZoro | magaspawn: I am still on limited data bundles ....I am thinking of getting the 3 Gb from 8.ta but I see uncapped is a way to go. | 12:18 |
| Kilos | then you will be happy with 1m/s | 12:18 |
| magespawn | yup all in perspective | 12:19 |
| DraZoro | What do you think of LTE guys ...Internet is getting a lot faster | 12:19 |
| superfly | magespawn: yeah, 4Mbps is pretty awesome | 12:20 |
| magespawn | my brother in ln law is in the UK told me about a virgin trial 16gbps line to a hundred houses in london | 12:21 |
| magespawn | i do not think i can get the 4mbps line here in hluhluwe | 12:22 |
| magespawn | think 1mbps is the fastest here | 12:22 |
| DraZoro | magaspawn: How much does it cost in you in total per month for the ADSL rental ? | 12:23 |
| Kilos | DraZoro, dont you use tab with nicks? | 12:24 |
| Kilos | type mag and hit tab | 12:24 |
| Kilos | you fast typers dont worry about the little things | 12:24 |
| DraZoro | Kilos: Wow kilos that rocks | 12:25 |
| Kilos | yeah without that my life would be much harder | 12:26 |
| DraZoro | Kilos: I was not away of this feature . | 12:26 |
| Kilos | i think the fly told me two years ago about | 12:26 |
| DraZoro | I am using Empathy | 12:26 |
| Kilos | works great with funny nicks | 12:26 |
| Kilos | ah | 12:26 |
| DraZoro | Funny I always used tab under bash just never tried it on IRC ....:) I guess we learn new things everyday | 12:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:27 |
| magespawn | R728 i think DraZorro | 12:32 |
| magespawn | or R782 | 12:32 |
| DraZoro | magespawn: Ok thanks | 12:34 |
| magespawn | i should hope you do | 12:34 |
| Kilos | magespawn, i couldnt install ubuntu on my p3 with 256m ram but with 128m more it worked | 12:34 |
| magespawn | there seems to be some hang up not sure what so trying all sorts of things | 12:34 |
| Kilos | it used to install halfway then hang | 12:36 |
| DraZoro | I think text install work much better on low memory | 12:39 |
| magespawn | this just hangs completely and at various different stages. | 12:43 |
| superfly | yeah, as DraZoro said, use the text installer | 12:45 |
| magespawn | is there a problem installing to sata drives | 12:46 |
| Kilos | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/68318-no-form-linux-sees-my-sata-hard-drive.html | 12:53 |
| Kilos | hope that helpps | 12:54 |
| Kilos | thats not a stutter its a high speed lip flap | 12:54 |
| magespawn | ha lol | 12:55 |
| superfly | magespawn: no, I've never had a problem installing to sata drives | 12:58 |
| superfly | it's just windows | 12:58 |
| DraZoro | I will catch in later guys ....Keep it cool. | 13:01 |
| DraZoro | Kilos: Thanks for the tip once again :) | 13:01 |
| DraZoro | I will never get nick names wrong once again | 13:01 |
| morgs | Maaz: tell DraZoro if you consider 8ta 3G, make sure you have coverage - it is restricted to only Telkom towers so only certain places in the country. Check http://www.8ta.com/coverage/8tanetwork/ | 13:10 |
| Maaz | morgs: Got it, I'll tell DraZoro on freenode | 13:10 |
| magespawn | well there is the fine print for you | 13:14 |
| Kilos | ? | 13:14 |
| magespawn | Kilos what morgs said | 13:15 |
| Kilos | ah ty | 13:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:16 |
| magespawn | hluhluwe is not even on the map | 13:17 |
| Kilos | aw | 13:18 |
| superfly | magespawn: easy way to check if you can get 4Mbps is to go to the telkom site and "check if your exchange supports ADSL" | 13:19 |
| superfly | https://secureapp.telkom.co.za/checkadsl/check.htm | 13:19 |
| magespawn | i see from the 8ta site that national coverage is provided by mtn would have been ironic if they used vodacom | 13:20 |
| magespawn | superfly will check it out | 13:21 |
| magespawn | it does support 4mbps will have to see how much more that will cost | 13:22 |
| superfly | magespawn: 4Mbps + uncapped from Afrihost costs me around R1000/month | 13:25 |
| superfly | magespawn: it might sound expensive, but it's cheaper than the Vodacom Broadband Advanced I was using | 13:25 |
| magespawn | R899 excluding line rental from mweb | 13:26 |
| magespawn | voice line rental | 13:26 |
| magespawn | is that unshaped superfly? | 13:26 |
| superfly | I have one of the Closer packages on my phone line, free install + a certain number of free calls per month | 13:26 |
| superfly | magespawn: semi-shaped | 13:26 |
| superfly | unshaped at night | 13:26 |
| superfly | it doesn't bother me though, I don't use BitTorrent much | 13:27 |
| magespawn | i see. i am only at the shop during the day | 13:27 |
| magespawn | i use the adsl to get a lot of software and such | 13:27 |
| magespawn | currently costs me R588 plus voice line rental | 13:28 |
| magespawn | i think that is R180.00 for business | 13:28 |
| magespawn | can go uncapped and unshaped for 1299 per month. | 13:30 |
| * tumbleweed is still on WA titan spceial. R600 for 10Mbps DSL + 25 G + free access to WA's mirror | 13:33 | |
| magespawn | i dream of having my own leased line | 13:37 |
| magespawn | tumbleweed who is that? | 13:38 |
| magespawn | Maaz google ubuntu text installer | 14:02 |
| Maaz | magespawn: "Alternative downloads | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download :: "Installation/LowMemorySystems - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems :: "Installation/MinimalCD - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD :: "Installation/FromWindows - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Inst | 14:02 |
| magespawn | Maaz ty | 14:02 |
| Maaz | Enjoy magespawn | 14:03 |
| tumbleweed | magespawn: who is what? | 14:20 |
| magespawn | WA Titan | 14:21 |
| tumbleweed | magespawn: webafrica. Titan was a special they had a year or two back | 14:23 |
| magespawn | okay i see | 14:23 |
| magespawn | later all home time | 14:59 |
| Kilos | hehe. just saw on the news who steve jobs is | 17:07 |
| Kilos | superfly, clever | 17:07 |
| Kilos | buried under an apple tree | 17:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:07 |
| superfly | Kilos: ? | 17:07 |
| superfly | :-) | 17:07 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 17:07 |
| * Kilos wonders where they will bury billy boy | 17:12 | |
| Kilos | under the pearly gates | 17:12 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn kinda dead here hey? | 18:37 |
| Kilos | inetpro, lewe jy nog? | 18:38 |
| Kilos | Maaz, where is everybody | 18:39 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Not a clue, sorry | 18:39 |
| Kilos | Maaz, find them all | 18:39 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Huh? | 18:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:39 |
| nlsthzn | Hi uncle Kilos ... sorry was watching a movie :) | 18:51 |
| Kilos | np | 18:51 |
| * superfly is working... again | 18:59 | |
| Kilos | eish. | 19:22 |
| Kilos | no rest for the wicked | 19:22 |
| Kilos | luckily i not wicked | 19:24 |
| Kilos | sleep tight all | 19:24 |
| Kilos | not too late superfly | 19:24 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 19:24 |
| zeref | jesus, just spent 2hrs trying to setup my friends wireless connection | 20:04 |
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