[00:00] <Ellipsis753> no one knows what I can do about my corrupt filesystem? (firefox gives an error like "firefox is already open" and won't open) stuff is generally just fucked on my computer when it's read-only
[00:00] <Zanzacar> I was wondering if anyone has any experience with configuring powernap, I have check out the config file, the man pages and I still need a little help
[00:00] <pangolin> !language | Ellipsis753
[00:00] <Ellipsis753> Ah, sorry
[00:00] <M0TRN_th1> oh ffs
[00:01] <M0TRN_th1> Ellipsis753, don't be
[00:01] <M0TRN_th1> the PC brigade at it again :(
[00:01] <Ellipsis753> ah well, I guess there's nothing wrong with trying to keep to good language.
[00:01] <drizz> guys, guys
[00:01] <drizz> did you hear
[00:01] <drizz> steve jobs is dead!
[00:02] <Ellipsis753> >.>
[00:02] <RobbieCrash> Ellipsis753 have you tried rebooting?
[00:02] <timroth> i just installed xubuntu with one user. now should i change this account to a normal user and make an admin account?
[00:02] <dude`> yea
[00:02] <M0TRN_th1> drizz, yes :(
[00:02] <dude`> true
[00:02] <pangolin> M0TRN_th1: if you have a problem with the channel guidelines please feel free to join #ubuntu-ops and complain in there.
[00:02] <M0TRN_th1> pangolin, I don't
[00:02] <Ellipsis753> robbieCrash, that's how I got here in the first place but I will
[00:02] <Ellipsis753> thanks
[00:02] <M0TRN_th1> I have a problem with PC
[00:02] <Ellipsis753> I'm going to bed now anyway. I'll try more tomorrow
[00:03] <pangolin> M0TRN_th1: honestly. I don't care what you have a problem with.
[00:03] <timroth> i just installed xubuntu with one user. now should i change this account to a normal user and make an admin account?
[00:03] <M0TRN_th1> pangolin, I don't have a problem with you and you don't have one with me let's keep it that way :)
[00:03] <M0TRN_th1> pangolin, g'nite mate ;)
[00:03] <pangolin> sounds sane. good night.
[00:04] <timroth> i just installed xubuntu with one user. now should i change this account to a normal user and make an admin account?
[00:04] <ex0> ubuntu isnt xp
[00:04] <ex0> lol
[00:05] <ex0> u dont have to do that
[00:05] <th0r> timroth: I wouldn't bother, just leave the default account
[00:05] <timroth> and us eit with inet and all?
[00:05] <th0r> timroth: anything system related will require a password, no problem
[00:05] <M0TRN_th1> timroth, it's not necessary, ubuntu always prompt you for a password if it needs the admin rights
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> timroth: make a new user, the users in the admin group can use sudo, that's all you need to manage
[00:06] <timroth> su isnt really a useraccount right, its more a privilege
[00:07] <timroth> whats the command to do adminrights in the shell?
[00:07] <th0r> timroth: it is sudo, not su, but you are essentially correct
[00:07] <ex0> su is super user..
[00:08] <th0r> ex0: I think su is 'switch user'
[00:08] <M0TRN_th1> timroth, when you do "sudo xxx" it runs xxx as root, so same thing
[00:08] <M0TRN_th1> su (or sudo -i) just gives you a shell with superuser rights, ie. root login
[00:08] <timroth> ok so so "and then the command"
[00:08] <ex0> su is switch user
[00:09] <M0TRN_th1> best practice is to use sudo in front of the commands that need root access
[00:09] <timroth> ok so  - su "and then the command"
[00:09] <M0TRN_th1> because it forces you to think about it
[00:09] <M0TRN_th1> timroth, "sudo COMMAND"
[00:09] <M0TRN_th1> or "sudo -i" and then a sequence of commands followed by exit
[00:10] <timroth> aha ok
[00:12] <timroth> ok thanks, maybe ill drop back later
[00:13]  * R3db3ard wants to know: Installing 10.04LTS from livedvd, can't mount volume [error: the daemon is being inhibited] helo?
[00:15] <w30> stacks`, I had an ftp directory like that once but I depended on whomever writing to it forgot the name of the file they wrote. ha. it was writable  but not readable.
[00:16] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I want to print seven column, week-at-a-glance calendars.  Thunderbird doesn't do it.  Is there another calendar program for linux?
[00:17] <Kaleidoscope> What do I do with an RPM File?
[00:17] <rww> Kaleidoscope: throw it away and find a .deb file
[00:17] <rww> alien exists, but is a bad idea
[00:17] <rww> !alien
[00:17] <Kaleidoscope> oh ok
[00:17] <Dice-Man> what about converting an rpm into deb ?
[00:17] <Kaleidoscope> Thanks
[00:17] <Dice-Man> it's alien too ?
[00:18] <RobbieCrash> Anybody know why something would not show up in lspci?
[00:18] <RobbieCrash> Dice-Man I don't think so.
[00:18] <dsnyders> RobbieCrash, It could be seated improperly.
[00:19] <RobbieCrash> dsnyders it shows up when I boot into Windows, and when I boot to recovery mode.
[00:19] <Dice-Man> RobbieCrash: hum kay
[00:19] <dsnyders> RobbieCrash, what is it?
[00:20] <RobbieCrash> dsnyders an LSI SATA/SAS controller card
[00:21] <ngc0202> I'm dual booting Ubuntu with Windows 7, how can I access my Windows file through Linux?
[00:22] <M0TRN_th1> ngc0202, you should get an icon on your desktop for the Windows file system
[00:23] <ngc0202> I should?
[00:23] <dsnyders> RobbieCrash, Have you tried running update-pciids?
[00:23] <ngc0202> How do I do that?
[00:23] <noisewaterphd> ngc0202: if you use seperate hard drives for them, you will need to mount the windows drive
[00:23] <ngc0202> nah it's just a partition
[00:24] <cbridenstine> Is anyone familiar with creating a live drive type install on an SSD ?
[00:24] <jasef> Wow, yay. Nano is taking like... 2 minutes so far for a find/replace operation
[00:24] <RobbieCrash> dsnyders no, but thanks for that, it updated the name of one of my other devices that I didn't know what it was.
[00:25] <cxxc> how do i install the java jdk 7 from binary. i dowloaded the tar.gz file
[00:25] <dsnyders> RobbieCrash, Ya gotta love side-effects.
[00:25] <RobbieCrash> But, still not showing up
[00:25] <ngc0202> How do I access the windows partition?
[00:26] <RobbieCrash> ngc0202 do you want to write to it as well?
[00:26] <BlueEagle> ngc0202: You mount it and access it.
[00:26] <ngc0202> No, I just need to print a file for school that I left when I switched
[00:27] <Zanzacar> quit
[00:28]  * R3db3ard figured out it has to do with something running in the installer that unmounts the drive?!? Can anyone help?
[00:29] <DoverOs> does the 'recreate folders' option overwrite the previous folder?
[00:29] <jasef> ngc0202, what format is the windows drive?
[00:29] <ngc0202> It's
[00:29] <ngc0202> um
[00:29] <ngc0202> a partition
[00:29] <dsnyders> ngc0202, you could try System->Administration->disk utility.  This will show you the drives and the partitions.  Select the drive/partition, and one of the options is mount.  Either that, or shut down and boot into windows to get your file.
[00:30] <ngc0202> I know how to get into Windows lol
[00:30] <ngc0202> But it'd take like 20 minutes
[00:30] <jasef> ngc0202, Lol, okay, you in unity or classic?
[00:30] <ngc0202> huh?
[00:31] <jasef> ngc0202, uhm... okay, nevermind. Open a folder window, in the sidebar in that window it should have filesystems near the top saying 'xxGB filesystem'
[00:31] <jasef> One of them should be your windows one
[00:31] <DoverOs> oh nevermind
[00:32] <jasef> Like my Windows one is '107GB Filesystem'
[00:32] <ngc0202> i see "File System"
[00:33] <mbeierl> anyone have powersaving hints for natty on a laptop?  Under MS Windows 7, I get about 4hrs, but under Natty, I'm down around 1.5 hrs for battery life.  I've adjusted all the CPU scaling I can find, and even installed laptop-mode, but battery life is still very short
[00:33] <jasef> ngc0202, Under that, there should be 'Network' then a list of other file systems on your computer
[00:34] <ngc0202> Unable to mount network
[00:34] <jasef> No, sorry I didn't mean to click it
[00:34] <ngc0202> Oh
[00:34] <jasef> I meant under it as in the next thing down in the list
[00:34] <ngc0202> Yeah
[00:34] <MrSassyPants> hey, I'm gonna install ubunut server 64bit now, but I'm gonna need a printable version of the install docs
[00:35] <MrSassyPants> is there something like that? I only find html stuff which doesn't print well
[00:35] <jasef> Your Windows partition is probably the first one directly under Network
[00:35] <launch> Hi all, Ubuntu 11.10 will be a lts or not?
[00:35] <dsnyders> RobbieCrash, Try this: http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle15753.aspx#linux
[00:36] <ngc0202> SYSTEM
[00:36] <ngc0202> is right untder it
[00:36] <mbeierl> launch: no, it will not be
[00:36] <jasef> ngc0202, Ah, maybe your file system is labeled, try opening SYSTEM and see if it's right
[00:36] <Johnnie`Walker> Hi, I would have some advice about using regex in C, someone can help me ?
[00:36] <launch> mbeierl: thanks, and ill be able to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10?
[00:36] <MrSassyPants> launch, no, next lts will be in 2012
[00:36] <mbeierl> launch: iirc, the LTS are every two years: 8.04, 10.04, making the next 12.03
[00:37] <mbeierl> c/03/04/
[00:37] <ngc0202> all it says is Boot and System Volume information
[00:37] <ngc0202> in SYSTEM
[00:37] <parastuff> Hi, I have a couple of files that all have the same word in it. For example: file1para.txt Now I want to remove the word para from all the files. I tried with purrr, but I am not sure how to continue from here...
[00:37] <launch> Can we upgrade from a non lts to a lts?
[00:37] <mbeierl> launch: yes, the upgrade will be presented to you once 11.10 is official
[00:37] <jasef> ngc0202, What's the next one under SYSTEM then
[00:38] <parastuff> Anyone knows what i should do to get this done?
[00:38] <mbeierl> launch: the LTS is no different than any other release, if you upgrade every 6 months.
[00:38] <ngc0202> HP-TOOLS
[00:38] <jasef> SYSTEM is probably the 100mb partition that Windows7 makes on installing, then.
[00:38] <launch> mbeierl: right thanks ;)
[00:38] <dsnyders> parastuff, I use thunar -B for bulk renames.
[00:38] <mbeierl> launch: it's just for those who want long term consistency, LTS to LTS gives you 2 years without major changes
[00:38] <launch> mbeierl: its even better since i got more recent software on no lts version?
[00:39] <parastuff> dsnyders, thanks I will give that a try
[00:39] <jasef> ngc0202, Hm... not familiar with HP's labeling system, but I think it won't be that one, what other ones do you have there? they stop at "Rubbish Bin"
[00:39] <mbeierl> launch: sorry, I don't quite understand the question.
[00:39] <OerHeks> !ntfs
[00:39] <R3db3ard> recent software doesn't always = a better system
[00:39] <launch> mbeierl: i think i prefer upgrading each 6 month and get latest software version
[00:40] <parastuff> dsnyders, thunar is not in the default ubuntu repos?
[00:40] <launch> 10.04 for example got firefox 3
[00:40] <launch> we are now at firefox 7
[00:40] <launch> ..
[00:40] <Slapshot|Linux> Hi, I'm running 10.04 server on a headless box. After restarting none of my init.d scripts will run on boot. Also any other hard drive I have no longer auto mount like before. Any help would be great.
[00:41] <launch> mbeierl: i will not necessary get into trouble if i choose a non lts version?
[00:41] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: nothing changed?  You just restarted and things stopped working?
[00:41] <stigma_> SIFTU: Hey SIFTU, if you're actively watching this, I wanted to drop back by and thank you once again for your help last night.  I am officially up and running and using my Ubuntu system right now :)
[00:41] <pitlimit> does anyone know waht it means if the thermal device is not enable?
[00:41] <pitlimit> enabled?
[00:41] <R3db3ard> no, non lts versions run just as well and in some cases better than lts versions
[00:41] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib I added a new hard drive but even after removing it the problem persisted
[00:41] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: what exactly happens when you boot now?
[00:42] <dsnyders> parastuff, I don't know if it's in the default repos.  It's been on my system so long I don't know whether it came with it, or whether I installed it myself.
[00:42] <mbeierl> launch: that is true, the LTS will not introduce new versions as quickly.  Once they are proven stable and useful, they probably wil get backported to LTS. But, no, sticking with 6 month releases will not get you into trouble. Installing the alphas probably will, and the betas could too :)
[00:42] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib Well I have to connect a keyboard and blindly login and then enable ssh through /etc/init.d/ssh start to ssh into the box. But nothing autoruns like before what could have caused this?
[00:42] <dsnyders> parastuff, Either way, it's only an apt-get install away.
[00:43] <mbeierl> launch: the only real reason to stick with LTS is for low-volume churn in the applications/user interface/etc.  As an example: the 11.04 introduction of Unity upset a lot of people.  LTS users would not even hear of Unity until 12.04
[00:43] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: anything interesting in logs?
[00:43] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib Which logs?
[00:43] <launch> mbeierl: thanks
[00:44] <mbeierl> launch: you're welcome!
[00:44] <parastuff> dsnyders, seems like a tool for xfce
[00:44] <parastuff> I am on gnome
[00:44] <tomswartz07> can anyone explain what app crash or error would cause my recent oneiric upgrade to go to screen lock after 3 seconds of inactivity? its driving me nuts
[00:44] <curiousx> pitlimit: do you have lm-sensors installed ?
[00:44] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: well all of them really but start with messages, dmesg, boot.log I suppose
[00:44] <pitlimit> no curioux - i just i a clean install
[00:44] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib Where are these logs located?
[00:44] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: and syslog
[00:44] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: /var/log
[00:44] <curiousx> pitlimit: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[00:45] <koa> hello
[00:45] <pitlimit> thanks curiousx !
[00:45] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: other than ssh, what else does not start?
[00:45] <curiousx> pitlimit: then you have to run "sensors-detect" to see what is the module you have to insert for thermal sensors
[00:46] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib all init.d scripts have stopped. I had irssi screen webmin apache2 samba winbind ddclient etc in there and they all would not run automatically
[00:46] <ngc0202> Nothing is working :/
[00:46] <curiousx> pitlimit: in my case was "coretemp"
[00:46] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: do the upstart scripts run ok?
[00:46] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib How do I check that?
[00:46] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: what version of ubuntu is this?
[00:47] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib 10.04 server
[00:47] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do I wake ubuntu up from sleep?
[00:48] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib boot.log records that some of the init.d scripts are started followed by OK but they in fact are not initiated when i go to check on their status after a reboot
[00:48] <koa> hey guys can i backup all my apk files ? and install them with 1 command ?
[00:48] <Stanley00> dsnyders: try "fg <job number>"
[00:49] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: /etc/init contains your upstart jobs, you can use « service --status-all » to run status on each of them
[00:49] <koa> sorry >< *.deb*
[00:49] <Monsterwizard> Can someone recommend me a good unix/linux book
[00:49] <dsnyders> Stanley00, So I would have to ssh into the box?
[00:49] <Monsterwizard> which contains sys admin
[00:49] <Stanley00> dsnyders: ah, sorry, just hit a button, or move your mouse :))
[00:49] <Monsterwizard> stuff
[00:50] <Slapshot|Linux> here is the output jrib  [ - ]  apache2
[00:50] <Slapshot|Linux>  [ - ]  apparmor
[00:50] <Slapshot|Linux>  [ ? ]  apport
[00:50] <Slapshot|Linux>  [ ? ]  atd
[00:50] <FloodBot1> Slapshot|Linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <dsnyders> Stanley00, None of that was working.
[00:50] <parastuff> dsnyders: Didn't know I could just install xfce apps as well under gnome. Trying it now!
[00:50] <koa> you can :P and kde 2 lol
[00:51] <koa> guys how can i back up all my .deb files
[00:51] <Stanley00> dsnyders: is that a remote computer or a PC?
[00:51] <dsnyders> parastuff, generally you can install apps from any desktop system onto any other desktop system.
[00:51] <koa> so whenever i install my system i don't need update
[00:51] <bazhang> !aptoncd | koa
[00:51] <Stanley00> koa: !clone
[00:51] <Stanley00> !clone | koa
[00:52] <koa> i can do that from usb as well ?
[00:52] <koa> cos my laptop don't have dvd or cd
[00:52] <Stanley00> koa: and one another thing, all your deb files are in /var/cache/apr/archieves/
[00:52] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: incidentally, you should use the service command not init.d directly
[00:53] <koa> <3 stanley00 you saved my day
[00:53] <Stanley00> koa: np ;)
[00:53] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib: I'd much rather they ran without my interaction :) Got any ideas on what could be causing this? Could my system be in some sort of safe mode/recovery mode or something?
[00:54] <dsnyders> Stanley00, It is a desktop PC.  I accidentally hit a button marked "sleep" on my keyboard, and the machine would no longer respond to the keyboard or mouse, and the screen went dead.  I was still able to ping the box from another machine, so it was still somewhat awake.
[00:54] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: nothing interesting in the logs?
[00:54] <pitlimit> i'm having a ton of problems with natty... is installing the LTS version more reliable?
[00:54] <cheako> Hello, does anyone use Banshee?  I'm trying to play a dvd folder.  Typically I'd do: "mplayer -dvd-device /wine/movie/ dvd://1-99"  Though I thought I'd try another player.  "mplayer dvd://wine/movie/" will also work if you are to play only the first title.
[00:54] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib No, I just found my commands to manually start the scripts
[00:54] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: can you pastebin them?
[00:55] <pitlimit> Can anyone comment on whether LTS is more reliable than natty?
[00:56] <Slapshot|Linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/703097/
[00:56] <melfy> how I get the pid from a `ps -ef | grep blah` ?
[00:56] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703097/
[00:56] <jrib> !lts | pitlimit
[00:56] <noisewaterphd> lts is just has long term support
[00:56] <jrib> pitlimit: that is what LTS means
[00:56] <dsnyders> pitlimit, LTS is long term support, isn't it?  I would imagine it would be more stable.
[00:56] <pitlimit> i know what it means jrbib but is it more stable
[00:56] <pitlimit> oh ok
[00:56] <pitlimit> thanks dsnyders
[00:56] <melfy> man thought LTS was some secret undercover code =x
[00:56] <Stanley00> dsnyders: Idk, sounds strange, maybe you should press shutdown button to turn off it.
[00:56] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: what am I reading?
[00:56] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib: my boot.log
[00:56] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: ok
[00:56] <noisewaterphd> more stable is dependent on a lot of variables
[00:57] <Stanley00> melfy: you can use "pgrep blah" instead
[00:57] <parastuff> dsnyders: thunar works great! Thanks for this. Manage to rename all my files and remove the words I wanted using search and replace.
[00:57] <dsnyders> Stanley00, I wound up doing a forced poweroff.
[00:57] <dsnyders> parastuff, Wonderful news!  Glad it worked
[00:58] <Stanley00> dsnyders: sorry, but that's all I can think of...
[00:59] <scratchinmyhead> can someone help me with sound
[00:59] <scratchinmyhead> I have 5 speakers and only the rear left and right work
[01:00] <scratchinmyhead> Hardware has been redone and is correct
[01:00] <dsnyders> Stanley00, Thanks for the help anyway.  The websites I've looked at suggest to not use sleep mode because of the wakeup difficulties.  I'll try to keep that in mind when I'm blearily fumbling with the keyboard at 3am.
[01:01] <Stanley00> dsnyders: ;)
[01:01] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib what did you make of the file?
[01:01] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: waiting on the rest
[01:02] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib: The rest of the files? They either dont contain anything or a are too long for me to copy Im using putty to ssh into the box
[01:02] <jrib> !pastebinit | Slapshot|Linux
[01:04] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib here is my messages http://pastebin.com/8VnzSG1q
[01:04] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: all your partitions are mounted correctly without issues, right?
[01:05] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib yes I havent had any problems before. I used the partition manager to add a second hard drive and have it automount and it hasnt caused any problems
[01:05] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib here is my dmesg http://pastebin.com/6dqREdyu
[01:06] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib my syslog http://pastebin.com/r6F9G583
[01:06] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib thats all the ones you asked for
[01:06] <pitlimit> I've decied to opt for ubuntu lts 10.04 .... natty offers to install restricted software on installation... how can I install those packages on 10.04>?
[01:07] <bazhang> pitlimit, ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[01:07] <pitlimit> that contains everything, bazhang ?
[01:07] <bazhang> pitlimit, mostly. you can check medibuntu.org as well (dvd stuff)
[01:07] <pitlimit> thanks bazhang
[01:08] <Morries> Foreskin contains unique pheromone glands found nowhere else on the body, that about 30% of women could consciously notice, when sitting next to him on the couch, or standing near him.  The other 70% are only subconsciously affected by these airborne sexual chemicals, and feel an increased sense of well-being, relaxation, and sexual arousal in his presence.   A circumcised man is more neuter in this respect.  He smells more like a p
[01:09] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: what does this return « ls -ld /etc/init*/ssh* »?
[01:10] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4389 2011-06-16 22:50 /etc/init.d/ssh
[01:10] <Slapshot|Linux> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  612 2011-06-16 22:50 /etc/init/ssh.conf
[01:11] <Star_Light> The Matlab exists in  UBuntu repositories?
[01:11] <scratchinmyhead> is there some kind of Sound preference software that I can use to get all 5 of my speakers working??  Sound pref. only has two speakers selection
[01:11] <pitlimit> bazhang: do those packages inclue flueno mp3 plugin?
[01:11] <jrib> Star_Light: no, but the matlab cd has a linux version.  Or you can use an alternative like octave or sage
[01:12] <jrib> !matlab | Star_Light
[01:12] <joopie> what is this install RELEASE on the unity bar?
[01:12] <melfy> Stanley00: ty !
[01:12] <bazhang> pitlimit, fluendo is the pay one?
[01:12] <jdeloach> Hey, so I just updated and now on reboot I get a ureadahead-other main process terimnated with status 4 error, it has sat there the entire day and won't load the recovery mode either
[01:13] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: so is cron currently running for example? (assuming you did not start it manually)
[01:13] <pitlimit> natty comes with fluendo
[01:13] <pitlimit> bazhang
[01:13] <Star_Light> OK GUYS Thanx for the link but I must have something to install it???
[01:13] <jrib> jdeloach: note that ureadahead status 4 is actually not bad
[01:13] <pitlimit> I cannot install it for free on 10.04?
[01:13] <jrib> Star_Light: no, but the matlab cd has a linux version.  Or you can use an alternative like octave or sage
[01:14] <bazhang> pitlimit, ubuntu-restricted-extras is free yes
[01:14] <Star_Light> lol ok sorry for causing repeat
[01:14] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib according to webmin it is set to start on boot but it did not and is not running
[01:14] <jdeloach> jrib: Then how can I find out what IS stopping it? I have absolutley no access via normal, or recovery mode. Alt+F1 gives me a blinking cursor
[01:14] <pitlimit> bazhang: but flueno is free for natty - it's not for 10.04?
[01:14] <anthropologist> Hey folks. I've got a nVidia GeForce 7300 that I am trying to use to set up a dual desktop under Lubuntu 11.04. If I install the 3rd party nVidia drivers, Lubuntu freezes on startup. Google has indicated to me that the current nVidia drivers don't work with the GeForce 7300, and that those cards are on a "blackout list". Is there a work-around, or should I try to dig up another video card?
[01:14] <bazhang> pitlimit, no idea
[01:14] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: maybe webmin is the cause of your issues, it's not supported
[01:15] <Star_Light> jrib and how I can use an aternative solution such as octave???? On my linun - ubuntu system?
[01:15] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib what do you mean it hasnt caused me any problems before and it also does not start on boot i have to manually start it like i do ssh. Its the only way I can tell whats going on in my system
[01:15] <Star_Light> can I *
[01:15] <jrib> Star_Light: octave is in the repositories
[01:15] <Star_Light> aha
[01:16] <jrib> !webmin | Slapshot|Linux
[01:16] <jdeloach> jrib: On a potentially related note, When I Crtl+Alt+Delete that leads to a reboot, as normal.
[01:16] <Star_Light> this -> sudo apt-cache search matlab | grep octave
[01:16] <jrib> jdeloach: how long have you waited?
[01:16] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all I need to reset my PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH to their default values, or whatever they were before I screwed them up.  Can anyone help?
[01:16] <jdeloach> jrib: I left it up when I went to school today, so at least 10 hours
[01:16] <jdeloach> jrib: Booting to XP works fine (it's a dual boot)
[01:17] <jrib> JokesOnYou77: how did you screw them up?  (note that LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty by default)
[01:17] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib I dont use webmin to configure my system. I use it just to monitor everything so webmin does not tamper with any of my files
[01:17] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: try booting a monitor to see if you get more info
[01:18] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib I dont have a monitor at my disposal
[01:18] <Star_Light> jrib what version of octave? Or there is no significance??
[01:18] <jrib> jdeloach: what happens when you try to use recovery mode exactly?
[01:18] <jrib> Star_Light: I'd go with the latest one in the repositories
[01:18] <Star_Light> ok
[01:18] <Star_Light> thank you very much.
[01:18] <jrib> Star_Light: http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ to learn to use it
[01:19] <Star_Light> ok ok thank you
[01:19] <JokesOnYou77> jrib: I'm trying to install the CUDA tools and SDK on 11.04 and a tutorial I was reading said to run "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib" and "export PATH=/usr/bin"
[01:19] <jrib> JokesOnYou77: then all you need to do is close the terminal and open a new one
[01:19] <JokesOnYou77> I meant to add them, not replace my current path with them =(
[01:19] <JokesOnYou77> really??
[01:20] <jrib> JokesOnYou77: try and see
[01:20] <jdeloach> jrib: Same error, well just 1 time vs. the 4 times the message shows up. On Alt+F1 th last thing I see is Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom... done, and on Alt+F7 before the ureadahead is a fsck of my root mount
[01:20] <jdeloach> jrib: And the fsck says it is clean
[01:20] <JokesOnYou77> jrib: You're a genious!!
[01:21] <JokesOnYou77> How do I get ubottu to give this guy a cookie?
[01:21] <jrib> JokesOnYou77: try !cookie > jrib
[01:21] <jrib> !cookie | JokesOnYou77
[01:21] <JokesOnYou77> !cookie > jrib
[01:21] <Star_Light> jrib I remembered that the licence of MATLAB was closed... Now what happens? ANd that changes? The GNU licence?
[01:22] <jrib> Star_Light: octave website is at gnu.org :)
[01:23] <jrib> jdeloach: it's kind of strange that you can't get to recovery mode
[01:23] <Star_Light> from when? I mean.... it this recent? I am asking for curiosity if you know
[01:23] <jrib> Star_Light: octave is not matlab, it's a Free program /like/ matlab
[01:24] <Star_Light> aaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:24] <jdeloach> jrib: Yeah... the reason I rebooted was because my sound card started to stop responding... so I am not sure if that is related or what.
[01:24] <JokesOnYou77> jrib: Ok, now $PATH is back where it's supposed to be, but echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH returns nothing, is that not a variable that exists by default?
[01:24] <jrib> JokesOnYou77: correct
[01:24] <Star_Light> ok ok thank
[01:24] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib got any other ideas?
[01:25] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: nope.  Maybe install bootchart and see if that gives some insights
[01:25] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: or ask the upstart guys how you can get more info
[01:25] <JokesOnYou77> jrib: Ok then, how do I create a permanent variable, or whatever it's supposed to be for LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
[01:25] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib who are the upstart guys
[01:25] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: start with #upstart
[01:26] <cr> Alguem fala portugues aew?
[01:26] <bazhang> !br | cr
[01:26] <mylisto> I have a lot of mp3's that are all at low volumes...is there any program that I can use to increase the volume of each one all at the same time?
[01:26] <jrib> JokesOnYou77: why?  You probably shouldn't.  But if you're sure you do, use ~/.profile
[01:26] <jrib> mylisto: probably ffmpeg
[01:27] <Star_Light> jrib last question!
[01:27] <geminimachine> mylisto google for a batch normalizer
[01:27] <Star_Light> if I have read a MATLAB tutorial based.... will I can to implement the matlab commands in octave programm?
[01:28] <jrib> Star_Light: octave is supposed to be very similar to matlab, but I'd suggest reading the octave tutorials and documentation
[01:28] <JokesOnYou77> Star_Light: Not to intrude, but if you are doing complex data analysis (i.e. MATLAB and/or Mathematica) I would still recommend using Windows, I still do.  Of course, Linux is still WAY better for gpu computing, but standard data analysis is all Windows, for me at least
[01:28] <almoxarife> mylisto: I would think you would just get louder what ever you have right now? meaning that I can't see how it would be any clearer or crisper?
[01:28] <JokesOnYou77> jrib: great! Thank you very much
[01:28] <jdeloach> jrib: Any ideas on how to solve these errors/
[01:29] <jrib> jdeloach: matlab and mathematica both run on linux (and there are also many of Free alternatives that run on linux)
[01:29] <jrib> oops
[01:29] <mylisto> Almoxarife: I'm not going for clarity or crispness..just an increase in volume
[01:29] <jrib> JokesOnYou77: matlab and mathematica both run on linux (and there are also many of Free alternatives that run on linux)
[01:29] <Star_Light> ok thanks a lot guys ... have a nice night I have to go now... bye
[01:29] <jdeloach> jrib: You got me confusesd with someone else :D I am the guy with the ureadahead errors not allowing me into recovery mode or regular
[01:30] <JokesOnYou77> jrib: I know...that's why I recommended Windows. I just haven't found anything with the depth of functionality or documentation that the non-free programs have
[01:30] <jrib> jdeloach: try changing the kernel line in grub to "nosplash" instead of "splash quiet"
[01:31] <JokesOnYou77> jrib: oh, wait, I'm an idiot.  I did not know that lol
[01:32] <jrib> jdeloach: I'm doubtful this will be successful though since you can't get to recovery mode
[01:33] <BluePhire1024> Just to let everyone know if you all don't already; Steve Jobs has passed away. I know this is for Ubuntu but part of the design was inspired from the Apple interface
[01:33] <xangua> BluePhire1024: please stick to the topic in the future
[01:34] <bazhang> !ot | BluePhire1024
[01:35] <jdeloach> jrib: Same results
[01:36] <panpan-> how do i uninstall something without it removing random stuff that it doesn't think is used? its trying to remove unrar with wine
[01:37] <almoxarife> panpan-: if you don't want to fight it, and unrar is the only issue, let it uninstall, then re-install it
[01:38] <JokesOnYou77> panpan: I think you can just use aptitude remove <package>  but for Wine, I would really take a look at the documentation on their website, it has some weird uninstall stuff
[01:39] <jrib> jdeloach: I don't know (ask again)
[01:39] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib how do I change whether a script in inti.d gets to run on boot or not?
[01:40] <jdeloach> jrib: Well it appears like the issue is probably the /scripts/init-bottom, I am investigating similar reports of this after updates
[01:40] <panpan-> is aptitude suppose to be installed by default JokesOnYou77 ? if so some other uninstall removed that too ;\
[01:40] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: man update-rc.d .  Though you probably want to be reading upstart docs instead
[01:40] <jrib> panpan-: it's not installed by default for the more recent releases
[01:41] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib but im using init.d not upstart?
[01:41] <Msims> Can you install ubuntu on a computer that only has an EXTERNAL hard drive?
[01:41] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: no you're not, but upstart does call the old sys-v-init scripts
[01:41] <dai> hey guys, can sed filter out characters from a wordlist?
[01:41] <jrib> dai: example?
[01:42] <infobit> Msims, Ya you can boot it from external drive
[01:42] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib so could it be that upstart is not calling init.d? and how can i check to make sure upstart it self is starting properly
[01:42] <JokesOnYou77> panpan-: I thought it was...
[01:42] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: I thought initially that that could be it, but ssh is started by upstart (you'll notice you have a /etc/init/ssh.conf)
[01:42] <JokesOnYou77> panpan-: Honestly, I'd just let apt-get do it's thing and then reinstall stuff :P
[01:42] <jdeloach> jrib: It appears like it might be my issue, I cancelled an upgrade and that says that probably caused it, testing it out with a livecd
[01:43] <jrib> Msims: I don't see why not
[01:43] <dai> jrib say I have a wordlist with words like: "apple tomato potato abou/t"  can i make it delete every / that is present in the wordlist?
[01:43] <Slapshot|Linux> jrib but i did that not upstart. I ran the /etc/init.d/ssh start command before that ssh was not working
[01:44] <Msims> Infobit, I cannot seem to get it to work. Basically, I have two laptops. One with a internal hard drive, and one without an internal hard drive. What I need is to install Ubuntu on the one WITHOUT the internal hard drive (with the external hard drive).
[01:44] <jrib> dai: sure just do something like:  echo foo bar foobar | sed -e 's/foo//g; s/bar//g'
[01:45] <dai> what's echo foo bar?
[01:45] <almoxarife> dai: or you could load it into libreoffice and do a find/replace
[01:45] <Msims> I've installed ubbuntu to the external hard drive, but I can't seem to get it to boot to the hard drive WITHOUT the internal hard drive. It boots fine with the laptop that has the internal hard drive, though.
[01:45] <jrib> dai: that's my example
[01:45] <dai> almoxarife, oh i tried that but the files are so big that my computer hangs\
[01:47] <jrib> dai: this seems to work too and is probably a little more compact for your scenario: echo foo bar foobar | sed -e 's/\(foo\|bar\)/x/g'
[01:47] <jrib> dai: obviously change the 'x' to ''
[01:47] <dai> jrib what would be the command and the variable to change?  i use $ sed -e 's/[variable]//g; s/[variable]//g' ?
[01:48] <jrib> dai: you could do it that way, just make the first [variable] your first word, the second [variable] your second, etc.  Or do sed -e 's/\(word1\|word2\)//g'  with as many words as you want in the parentheses separated by '\|'
[01:49] <jj4r> hey guys I recently removed my password to my windows 7 computer in which i accessed all the time with my ubuntu laptop. now after removing my windows password i cant access my window shares via samba, can someone guide me
[01:49] <dai> jrib: and it will delete every instance of the character within the parentheses?
[01:49] <jrib> Slapshot|Linux: upstarts starts ssh using /etc/init/ssh.conf.  ssh is not starting.  therefore the issue is not that upstart is not running the scripts in /etc/init.d.  This is my thought process
[01:50] <jrib> dai: your phrasing is confusing.  It will delete "word1" and "word2"
[01:50] <dai> it kinda gets confusing sorry lol
[01:51] <dai> I want to delete every non-alphanumeric character in my wordlist since they're kinda useless, if i put in symbols instead of word1 or word2, would it delete all the symbol i listed?
[01:51] <jj4r> hey guys I recently removed my password to my windows 7 computer in which i accessed all the time with my ubuntu laptop. now after removing my windows password i cant access my window shares via samba, can someone guide me
[01:52] <devatwork> Hey guys im trying to create a .desktop file. But the path attribute is being ignored
[01:52] <devatwork> Is there another way to set the working directory ?
[01:57] <Arcademan> Is there a way on install to tell it to use sdb0 when installing along the side of Windows 7?
[01:58] <jj4r> hey guys I recently removed my password to my windows 7 computer in which i accessed all the time with my ubuntu laptop. now after removing my windows password i cant access my window shares via samba, can someone guide me
[02:00] <Arcademan> jj4r, did you try and set a password on Windows 7?
[02:01] <hdtdi> http://apple.com
[02:01] <bazhang> hdtdi, wrong place for that
[02:01] <jj4r> Arcademan, i orginally had one for my htpc which i also use as a media server (win7) that I streamed to my ubuntu laptop. i removed my win7 password for boot speed and ease and now my access is denied for trying to access my windows shares
[02:01] <hdtdi> sorry mate, just wanted to share
[02:02] <Arcademan> You must have a password for Windows Shares XD
[02:02] <Arcademan> Otherwise it does not work :)
[02:03] <jj4r> Arcademan, are you serious theres no work around?
[02:03] <jj4r> ugggggh
[02:08] <var> I'm trying to boot into an ubuntu partition but when going past the loader (grub) I get a completely black screen
[02:08] <var> I tried booting with gfxpayload=text but ENOHELP
[02:11] <var> anyone ?
[02:12] <var> even recovery mode fails the same way
[02:13] <darknet> [System-Uptime] 23h 15m 33s [HydraIRC-Uptime] 18h 53m 1s
[02:17] <libster> on 11.04 the battery indicator is horribly inaccurate it says my battery has 3 minutes left and is critically low at 100% charge
[02:17] <Ben64> you sure the battery isn't bad?
[02:17] <libster> yes
[02:18] <libster> it works fine on windows and on slackware for some reason
[02:18] <Ben64> strange
[02:18] <var> interesting
[02:18] <var> setting vesasfb.nonsense=1 allowed it to boot, but I get an error "target fs doesn't have init"
[02:19] <libster> even worse is that it will suspend itself after like 2 minutes without being plugged in
[02:19] <libster> which is a tiny bit annoying
[02:19] <Ben64> mine does that, but my battery literally lasts 5 mins at 100% now
[02:19] <Ben64> its like 3 years old or so :)
[02:20] <libster> my batter usually lasts around 2 hours on windows
[02:21] <josh99> after changing my hosts file, when i go to 127.0.0.1 I don't see the domain i specified in the hosts. any ideas?
[02:22] <Ben64> thats not how a hosts file works
[02:22] <josh99> Ben64: oh.
[02:23] <Ben64> if you go to the domain you specified, it should actually send you to 127.0.0.1
[02:23] <var> o.O my root file system changed
[02:23] <melfy> deltree /* ? :(
[02:24] <var> deltree ?
[02:24] <[roxybx]> hi
[02:24] <var> josh99: generally its a bad idea to use 127.0.0.1 to block sites. use 0.0.0.0 instead
[02:24] <var> unless you *intend* for it to be a loopback
[02:25] <var> (and know what that word means)
[02:25] <josh99> Ben64: i go to the domain but i still see it instead of my local machine
[02:25] <josh99> var: ok
[02:25] <var> josh99: host domain. what ip do you see?   Also how are you visiting it? Firefox? lynx? ping?
[02:25] <var> Fx has its own dns cache
[02:25] <josh99> var: chrome
[02:25] <var> josh99: look to see what "host domain" returns
[02:25] <Ben64> var: host doesn't use hosts file
[02:26] <var> Ben64: o.O strange
[02:26] <Ben64> 192.168.1.131 lappy
[02:26] <Crashooo> http://appsumo.com/~q97m
[02:26] <Ben64> Host lappy not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[02:26] <var> nslookup perhaps
[02:26] <Ben64> ** server can't find lappy: NXDOMAIN
[02:26] <josh99> altin: what's host domain means?
[02:26] <Ben64> josh99: he meant on the command line "host <domain>"
[02:26] <josh99> ok
[02:27]  * var goes to back to fixing this grub
[02:27] <Ben64> yeah grub can be silly sometimes
[02:28] <var> what does Linux call SATA disks?
[02:29] <josh99> var: http://pastebin.com/SrMEzwnN
[02:29] <var>  /sdb ?
[02:29] <Ben64> var: what do you mean
[02:29] <josh99> it gives me the ip on EC2
[02:29] <Ben64> even IDE drives are /dev/sd_ now
[02:30] <maletor> I want to create a web request to 75.101.163.44 which is heroku's reverse proxy faking a header of my domain. I want to test it will work without actually changing DNS across the world first.
[02:30] <Ben64> but grub usually used hd0 format
[02:30]  * var is in the livecd to check something
[02:30] <var> Ben64: I'm used to FreeBSD - not Linux
[02:30] <Ben64> ah
[02:30] <allowoverride> var me too, but thats changing
[02:31] <var> allowoverride: :'(
[02:32] <var> allowoverride: I'm helping a friend
[02:32]  * var prefers sanity :)
[02:33] <allowoverride> heh
[02:33] <allowoverride> since when is computing sane?
[02:34] <pschwank> Anybody have a moment to answer a question or two from a new user about a fresh 11.04 install
[02:34] <var> pschwank: don't ask to ask, just ask
[02:35] <deebee_> pschwank: just ask in the channel and someone will pipe up if they know the answer
[02:35]  * pschwank laughs
[02:35]  * var looks oddly at pschwank 
[02:36] <Ben64> almost 1500 people in here, it happens a lot
[02:36] <Ben64> !ask
[02:36] <pschwank> Alright, quick issue with Banshee and MP3s.  I'm dual-booting Windows and have all my music in MP3 for that side.  Banshee for some reason isn't playing well with the files even though it installed some extra addons that I think were supposed to do that?
[02:36] <var> Ben64: :)
[02:36] <E3D3> Hi. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed and wanted to know if its (already) possible to open nautilus with an extra pane default ?
[02:36]  * var changes Ben64 to 32 bit mode
[02:36] <Ben64> unpossible
[02:36]  * var changes
[02:37]  * pschwank appears to have fixed the problem by logging into IRC.
[02:37] <Ben64> congrats :)
[02:37] <E3D3> thx
[02:37] <pschwank> Either that, or attempting to use Amarock as an alternative installed the proper stuff.
[02:37] <var> pschwank: IRC fixes problemds
[02:37] <Ben64> s/d//
[02:38] <Ben64> oh right, this isn't the channel with the sedbot :(
[02:38] <var> allowoverride: out of cursorily why the switch
[02:38] <var> Ben64: no need for a bot
[02:38] <var> * curiosity
[02:38] <Ben64> but i like having a sedbot
[02:39]  * var * = new sedbot;
[02:39]  * var * sed = new sedbot;
[02:39] <pschwank> Next question: I have a slightly older nVidia card (7900GS) and when I go to additional drivers, it says that the current version driver is activated but not in use.  Is this a problem?
[02:40] <var> pschwank: you may not have the latest bugfixes, but if you don't see a problem, shouldn't be an issue
[02:40] <var> ie - only fsck with stuff like that when you need to
[02:40] <wxl> i'll be honest.. i'm coming here trying to get help with lubuntu but figure there are enough similaries.. so i've got a powerbook g4 ppc i'm trying to fit ocelot on via the alternate cd (there's something borked about ubiquity on the desktop that i can't fix) and all is fine and well.. until it goes to detect the cdrom. i can't even find it in the device tree. seen some suggestion of using modprobe ide-scsi but this module doesn't exist. any ideas?
[02:40] <Ben64> pschwank: are you using the open source one?
[02:40] <bazhang> wxl, ocelet in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:40] <zykotick9> pschwank, that "active, but not in use" is a common bug - so long as the driver is working, it's all good.
[02:40] <pschwank> Alright.  Last question, not really a problem, more of a preference:  Is it possible to get window controls on the top right instead of top left?  Again, I'm moving to/from Windows, so it throws me for a loop when they're on the 'wrong' side.
[02:40] <wxl> oh heh thx bazhang
[02:40] <zykotick9> Ben64, doesn't apply to open source
[02:41] <Ben64> wouldn't it say that if nvidia-current is installed, but not in use though
[02:41] <Ben64> pschwank: yes, it's easy, hold on a sec, i'll find you a link
[02:41] <zykotick9> Ben64, well yes
[02:42] <robin0800> pschwank, yes you can ubuntu-tweak can do this
[02:42] <var> Alright - I'm able to get a boot if I remove the "vga=786" from the boot line
[02:42] <Ben64> pschwank: "gconf-editor" in terminal, apps->metacity->general
[02:42] <zykotick9> pschwank, for the gconf-editor directions see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/
[02:42] <Ben64> button_layout is the one to change
[02:43] <Ben64> menu:minimize,maximize,close is windows-esque
[02:43] <zykotick9> var, vga= are deprecated
[02:43] <cm1nus> hi [root@unknown.org]$ alien reef.rpm
[02:43] <var> zykotick9: I noticed. This was my grub line from before
[02:44] <var> zykotick9: I had two issues, a) I switched to AHCI so init.d got all confused b) vga= causes a pure black screen
[02:44]  * var is trying to solve 
[02:44] <var> even switching back from AHCI still has a problem with init
[02:45] <var> not finding /sys or /proc
[02:45] <Abhijit> hi
[02:45] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Would this be the questions area?
[02:45] <var> !ask
[02:45] <var> ScroogeMcDuckets:
[02:45]  * var pats ubottu 
[02:45] <Abhijit> xsane can not start scanner. device busy error. it happens after some time. hep please. i have install hplip and related packages.
[02:46] <Abhijit> ScroogeMcDuckets, yes about ubuntu os
[02:46] <var> zykotick9: any ideas?
[02:47] <zykotick9> var, sorry man, i don't have any suggestions (other then, don't use vga=) good luck!
[02:47] <ScroogeMcDuckets> I just would like to know some ways to protect my system better.
[02:47] <var> zykotick9: ya, removing vga= solves the "black screen" problem
[02:47] <Ben64> protect from..?
[02:47] <var> ScroogeMcDuckets: protecting what service from what type of attack
[02:48] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Virus
[02:48] <var> ScroogeMcDuckets: run an anti-virus program?
[02:48] <Ben64> viruses are very uncommon for linux, the best thing to do is just good practices, like not run things as root
[02:48] <var> Ben64: :\ Linux viri are not that uncommon
[02:49] <var> Ben64: don't run as root, stay up to date, run an anti-virus
[02:49] <Abhijit> ScroogeMcDuckets, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[02:49] <Ben64> antivirus is unnecessary on linux imo
[02:49] <var> !botsnack
[02:49] <var> :)
[02:50] <var> Ben64: depends what sites you visit and what you do
[02:50] <ScroogeMcDuckets> I have been using Ubuntu for a about 6 months now and I finally got rid of windows completly. It's nice not really having to worry about those kinda things
[02:50] <allowoverride> var didnt switch, just expanding my overall training in Nix
[02:50] <pschwank> ben, zykotic: Thanks.
[02:50] <var> ScroogeMcDuckets: you get to worry about other things now :)
[02:50] <Abhijit> var, so true!!! :-)
[02:51] <var> allowoverride: smart. I should try playing with linux at some point. I like freeBSD and contribute a lot :) but I should expand my knolege
[02:51] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Haha thats fine with me.
[02:53] <pschwank> ben64: I agree. If somebody manages to get around root access and whatnot, it's most likely your own fault.
[02:53] <var> pschwank: or you are using an outdated version of Linux
[02:53] <var> or something
[02:53] <pschwank> well yeah
[02:53] <pschwank> but that goes without saying.
[02:53] <var> :)
[02:53] <Abhijit> xsane can not start scanner. device busy error. it happens after some time. hep please. i have install hplip and related packages. its hp f4488 and lucid 64 bit. help please
[02:53] <pschwank> Using anything outdated is ill-advised.
[02:53] <var> True, true
[02:54] <pschwank> Well, using anything that's -too- outdated.
[02:54] <pschwank> I mean, I can't be bothered to download the nightly builds of everything...
[02:54] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Thank you all.
[02:55] <var> pschwank: nightly builds are likely *worse* than releases
[02:55] <pschwank> var: exactly.
[02:55] <var> except when people stop doing releases
[02:55] <var> *cough*  mplayer
[02:55] <pschwank> var: I usually steer clear of releases until at least a beta.
[02:55] <pschwank> if not RC.
[02:55] <allowoverride> var just pick one, its all under root anyway, and who really cares about who maintains what, when it comes to learning, nix is nix, well to me. milage may vary. i like ubuntu as a desktop vs centos, its just simpler to play with, and has all the bells and whistles. im a gnome user, kde is fine. its all about what keeps one interested. currently ubuntu has what i need, and i wont be changing anytime soon from a gnome/gui stand point. as 
[02:55] <allowoverride> wow that was a lot sorry
[02:56] <var> pschwank: I run -HEAD of FreeBSD, but that is because I try to help out where I can :)
[02:57]  * var disables override
[02:57] <var> allowoverride: /nick disableoverride
[02:57] <var> :)
[02:58] <realazthat> ahoy
[02:58] <allowoverride> silly
[02:58] <allowoverride> <<< apache config thang
[02:58] <realazthat> I am wondering if there is some sort of remote installation manegement software for a large number of ubuntu (or xplatform) machines
[02:58] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Can I adjust my partition within Ubuntu using g-parted, or will I have to do it with a live cd?
[03:00] <mylisto> I have a lot of mp3's that are all at low volumes...is there any program that I can use to increase the volume of each one all at the same time?
[03:00] <allowoverride> var so whats a beastie like you doing in here? thinking bout virtualizing an ubuntu box  :) now adays i just add a virtual server to muck with, if i choke, just load up another, no more hardware costs for this techy hehe
[03:01] <bazhang> !ot
[03:01] <bazhang> mylisto, ffmpeg ?
[03:02] <var> allowoverride: helping a friend fix a boot problem
[03:02] <allowoverride> whats the details so far?
[03:03] <mikodo> ScroogeMcDuckets: You must use a live CD for all mounted partiitons.
[03:03] <qiaoly> first time from china
[03:04] <var> allowoverride: he switched to AHCI recently which messed up his boot setup and init.d is not founmd
[03:04] <var> (is e2fsck desrtructive)
[03:05] <var> apperently not (found man page)
[03:05] <var> allowoverride: it seems his partition table also got screwed up
[03:05]  * var tries with e2fsck -cc /dev/sda6
[03:06] <ScroogeMcDuckets> mikoda: Thank You
[03:07]  * var rejoins as variable
[03:09] <variable> back :)
[03:13] <killafreakz> hhh
[03:13] <killafreakz> o
[03:14] <x0rs> What is the most popular most bug-free ubuntu friendly web browser? Chrome?
[03:15] <screenCAT> I am having a difficult time dual booting Ununtu on my computer, does anyone have experience with it?
[03:15] <cakeb0ss> install windows first
[03:15] <cakeb0ss> than install ubuntu from cd
[03:15] <screenCAT> I'm installing it on a Mac OS X 10.6.5 partion on my netbook
[03:15] <cakeb0ss> it will automaticallyset you up
[03:16] <cakeb0ss> wait so you're installing it over a preexisting mac osx 10.6.5 partition?
[03:16] <cakeb0ss> how many partitions, how many operating systems?
[03:16] <screenCAT> I have a netbook which originally came with WinXP, I whipped it and installed Mac OS X 10.6.5 with Chameleon bootloader
[03:17] <screenCAT> now I partitioned my existing HD for Ubuntu, but the installer fails halfway through the installation
[03:19] <cakeb0ss> how so fail
[03:19] <mikodo> ScroogeMcDuckets: You are welcome. See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[03:19] <cakeb0ss> It may be a bad burn how are yuo installing it
[03:20] <cakeb0ss> netbooks normally dont have dvd drives.... so are you doing a usb install?
[03:21] <khaliG> whats the story with flash support? why does it suck so bad under ubuntu?
[03:21] <cakeb0ss> theres lightspark
[03:21] <cakeb0ss> kind of like flash =\
[03:22] <screenCAT> yes im doing a USB install, but ive tried installing ubuntu through the Mac terminal, the pendrive install and Unetbootin or whatever
[03:22] <khaliG> cakeb0ss, does it work better?
[03:22] <thevinci> what's the command to get out of super user?
[03:22] <merlot> exit
[03:23] <merlot> or quit
[03:23] <khaliG> is there a way to use vlc/mplayer/etc for flash playback from the web browser?
[03:24] <xangua> khaliG: ther is flashvideoreplacer plugin for firefox
[03:24] <thevinci> neither of those worked
[03:24] <xangua> replaces flashvideo in the most popular sites like youtube and vimeo and other sites
[03:25] <khaliG> xangua, sounds good. does it work for chrome?
[03:25] <xangua> ...
[03:26] <beta0x64> no, it's for firefox lol
[03:26] <beta0x64> Are you trying to get flash to work in ubuntu?
[03:26] <khaliG> ok :/
[03:26] <khaliG> beta0x64, yep
[03:26] <thevinci> any other ways out of SU via command line?
[03:26] <beta0x64> hold on one moment
[03:26] <thevinci> I'm on a server
[03:26] <khaliG> thevinci, type exit
[03:26] <thevinci> it says command not found
[03:27] <beta0x64> quit
[03:27] <beta0x64> su into another user
[03:27] <beta0x64> but you're still logged in
[03:27] <thevinci> no other users
[03:27] <beta0x64> at least I think so
[03:27] <beta0x64> hmm lol
[03:27] <thevinci> oh... nvr mind
[03:28] <khaliG> i cant believe flash is still unsable on linux in 2011...
[03:28] <thevinci> my 'x' key is stuck to my 'z' key on that keyboard... #damnpizzasauce
[03:28] <khaliG> *unusable
[03:28] <thevinci> so i was typing 'exzit' lolz
[03:28] <th0r> khaliG: sounds like something you should take up with Adobe
[03:28] <Jouva> I'm trying to use pam_google_authenticator as part of authentication, but I want to make it such that it's a "migration" setup, where if the user doesn't have the required files it won't bother to try and use the authenticator piece. Is there a way to do this?
[03:28] <DustyMonk> khaliG: if it's for youtube, try html5 (i have no flash nonfree installed)
[03:28] <khaliG> no youtube isn't too bad
[03:29] <khaliG> it's everything thing else
[03:29] <beta0x64> see I use gnash I think
[03:29] <khaliG> eg blinkx
[03:29] <beta0x64> but I am in firefox so I don't know about chrome khaliG
[03:29] <DustyMonk> i use chromium
[03:30] <screenCAT> I use to only use Chrome, but lately i've been finding firefox is way more reliable
[03:31] <beta0x64> khaliG, http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-enable-adobes-flash-player-in-google-chrome-ubuntu-9.04-p2
[03:31] <beta0x64> did you try a guide like that?
[03:31] <beta0x64> that is in an early version though
[03:32] <beta0x64> flashplugin-installer didn't work for you?
[03:32] <khaliG> it installed but i get stupidly high cpu usage when playing video
[03:33] <DustyMonk> blinkx works fine without flashplugin-nonfree
[03:33] <DustyMonk> in chromium browser
[03:33] <beta0x64> khaliG, are you 64 bit?
[03:33] <khaliG> yep
[03:33] <beta0x64> did you try installing the 64 bit installer?
[03:33] <beta0x64> I think the one in the software center is 32
[03:33] <[roxybx]_> blinkx doesnt ring any bells
[03:34] <khaliG> i've got the 64bit version installed, i think, but i'd have to double check
[03:34] <[roxybx]_> i know i heard of tht software
[03:34] <beta0x64> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742119 apparently this works for 11.04 on april 28th. the third post
[03:34] <beta0x64> I don't see why it wouldn't work for chrome
[03:35] <MrSassyPants> I'm looking at /etc/networks/interfaces and trying to figure out how I can pass the necessary parameters to dhcpcd so it doesn't overwrite /etc/resolv.conf
[03:35] <DustyMonk> no, in chromium browser, i do need flashplugin-nonfree for blinkx
[03:36] <MrSassyPants> usually they're -R -N -Y
[03:37] <MrSassyPants> is /etc/networks/interfaces the right place even?
[03:39] <cakeb0ss> i got a really stupid question
[03:39] <cakeb0ss> after compiling mesa 7.11 which was a pain in the ass and took forever to get all the necessary librarys required
[03:39] <cakeb0ss> I am left with a i915.so file in the end this i assume is my driver
[03:39] <cakeb0ss> whre do i place it to "activate" it
[03:39] <cakeb0ss> ?
[03:41] <MrSassyPants> ok, let me formulate this in a different way
[03:41] <MrSassyPants> how do I keep /etc/resolv.conf from being overwritten
[03:42] <Abhijit> MrSassyPants, change the permissions?
[03:43] <MrSassyPants> Abhijit, ...no
[03:47] <Abhijit> do we compulsory need to get privew first and then click on scan while using xsane?
[03:51] <MrSassyPants> where's xorg.conf located?
[03:51] <Abhijit> !xorg | MrSassyPants
[03:51] <Bry8Star{GB> find / -iname "xorg.conf"
[03:51] <OerHeks> locate xorg.conf
[03:52] <MrSassyPants> OerHeks, fresh install
[03:52] <Bry8Star{GB> ... i see, you r creatin that, i guess
[03:53] <OerHeks> fresh install, then you might have no xorg.conf yet
[03:54] <MrSassyPants> OerHeks, well, I installed the kubuntu-desktopy-thingy and then it worked. so I installed the nvidia-driver-current or something, now x no longer works
[03:54] <MrSassyPants> doesn't find a screen
[03:55] <MrSassyPants> or anything really, since there's no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[03:55] <Kelsey> Any hunks in here?
[03:55] <MrSassyPants> but then I'm not sure that's where ubuntu keeps xorg.conf
[03:56] <bazhang> Kelsey, wrong channel for that
[03:58] <Kelsey> I don't get how American men can be so quiiet and silent and "content" about having been CIRCUMCISED.
[04:01] <MrSassyPants> huh, apparently there is no xorg.conf and everything is autodetected, and all I had to do is to remove the spurious drivers
[04:03] <dfcnvt> Hi, why do I get "the following packages hve been kept back: ..." after I run 'apt-get upgrade' ???
[04:03] <dfcnvt> Is it waiting for this system to restart?
[04:04] <pangolin> dfcnvt: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:04] <dfcnvt> What does that do?
[04:04] <dfcnvt> update what held back?
[04:04] <pangolin> hopefully
[04:04] <dfcnvt> err upgrade*
[04:05] <dfcnvt> It seems to be working now.
[04:06] <MrSassyPants> !nvidia
[04:06] <dfcnvt> Uhm, off the point, I'm trying to get libdvdcss but wasn't sure which package contain with it. Does *restricted* package got to be the one?
[04:07] <bazhang> dfcnvt, medibuntu.org for libdvdcss2
[04:07] <dfcnvt> thanks again
[04:07] <labkom> hai
[04:07] <dfcnvt> (oh different person. I meant to say thanks instead of thanks again)
[04:07] <dfcnvt> blah :p
[04:08] <labkom> bloger
[04:08] <dfcnvt> blogger* ?
[04:11] <researcher123456> are there any videos to train newbies in Linux ?
[04:12] <xangua> researcher123456: youtube.com¿
[04:12] <xangua> !manual | researcher123456
[04:12]  * r3db3ard asks, "Anyone know how to set all windows open in compact view?
[04:13] <Abhijit> r3db3ard, if compiz is enabled try super + A
[04:14]  * r3db3ard says thanks and waves goodbye
[04:15] <Travis> Hello
[04:20] <Polygamy> Im running Natty on a T410 Laptop that i need to fix my video drivers on. im unable to play assultcube and opengl gives me an error when i try and launch stating that Unable to create OpenGL screen (Couldn't set console screen info)
[04:20] <Polygamy> Its a T410 with an i5 and a INTEL HD Graphics card
[04:21] <soreau> Polygamy: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[04:22] <Polygamy> not installed? one molment please
[04:22] <Arney> So, alsamixer says my volume is at 100%, but the gnome indicator says its 20% what gives?
[04:23] <Polygamy> soreau: matt@nameless:~/Desktop/1.1.0.4$ glxinfo|grep renderer
[04:23] <Polygamy> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Mobile GEM 20100330 DEVELOPMENT
[04:23] <soreau> Polygamy: Does glxgears work?
[04:23] <Polygamy> yes
[04:24] <soreau> Polygamy: Did it ever work?
[04:24] <Polygamy> never checked
[04:24] <Arney> Found the problem, alsa mixer fails to change the HDMI sound out volume.
[04:25] <Polygamy> I just tried launching Assultcube again though and its still using OpenGl
[04:25] <Polygamy> and same error
[04:25] <soreau> Polygamy: How did you install this game?
[04:26] <Polygamy> well i installed the libs via ./configure make makeinstall but the game comes pre-compiled. Which makes me thing i must edit the config now that i think about it
[04:26] <soreau> Polygamy: Why didn't you install it from the repositories?
[04:27] <dfcnvt> How do I check to see if I need to restart my system after I upgrade them? Any such command? (assuming: apt-get status)
[04:28] <Polygamy> never thought to install it from a repo
[04:29] <Abhijit> dfcnvt, if there is need system will tell you by showsing restart needed icon on the very top right cornder. the shutdown button will become red and under your user name menu there will be separte menu restart required
[04:29] <soreau> Polygamy: Try make uninstall then apt-get install assaultcube
[04:30] <soreau> Polygamy: I'm installing it from ubuntu repos here too so I can see if there's a similar problem
[04:30] <soreau> But the most likely case is that it didn't configure/build/install correctly
[04:31] <Polygamy> i am as well. thanks for your assistance so far soreau
[04:31] <dfcnvt> I'm on the latest version ubuntu... No such status is telling me. Can you find that out via command?
[04:31] <soreau> dfcnvt: You want to know which version of ubuntu you're running from CLI?
[04:32] <scar3crow> what is the command to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 from the console?
[04:32] <dfcnvt> No, I want to know how do I check the status of the current system to see if this sytem required a restart or no restart is required after the upgrade.
[04:32] <Abhijit> soreau, nope he wants to know if his system needs a restart. by using terminal
[04:32] <soreau> scar3crow: Try #ubuntu+1
[04:32] <Polygamy> soreau: what repo u obtaining it from?
[04:33] <soreau> Polygamy: ubuntu 11.04 repos using apt
[04:33] <soreau> Abhijit: dfcnvt: IIRC, when you log in (to tty) it tells you if a reboot is needed
[04:34] <Johnny_Giggles> If I copy an executable file to a FAT16 or FAT32 file system such as a USB stick, how does the system 'remember' that the file is executable, given that FAT has no executable bit flag?
[04:34] <dfcnvt> soreau: iirc is a tool?
[04:34] <Polygamy> soreau: ok, done, now when i launch it says Using home directory: /home/matt/.assaultcube_v1.04
[04:35] <Polygamy> init: sdl
[04:35] <Abhijit> !u | soreau :-p
[04:35] <Polygamy> Unable to initialize SDL (No available video device)
[04:35] <soreau> Polygamy: Seems to work fine here on radeon
[04:35] <Polygamy> Thats the issue
[04:35] <Polygamy> ur runing a Radeon card with openGL and this is an INTEL GPU with mesa?
[04:35] <soreau> Abhijit: I never used 'u'..
[04:36] <soreau> dfcnvt: 'IIRC' is an acronym for If I Remember Correctly
[04:36] <dfcnvt> Ah! gotcha
[04:36] <thenickperson> nope.avi
[04:37] <soreau> Johnny_Giggles: Windows uses file extension to guess what the file is AFAIK. Ask in #windows
[04:38] <molgan> dual booting with different hard drives? possible?
[04:38] <Abhijit> molgan, it will not be dual boot in that case
[04:38] <molgan> so will it be possible?
[04:39] <Abhijit> yes. its possible
[04:39] <molgan> how?
[04:39] <Abhijit> just install two separate os in two separate hdds. i dont see any problem there
[04:39] <Polygamy> molgan, install windows, and then install linux
[04:39] <Johnny_Giggles> soreau: yeah but what about ubuntu?  Ubuntu will run off a USB stick
[04:39] <soreau> Johnny_Giggles: ubuntu doesn't use .exe files natively..
[04:40] <soreau> molgan: Yes
[04:40] <molgan> I have a friend that installed windows on a 500GB hdd, and Ubuntu 11.04 on a 75Gb hdd
[04:40] <Polygamy> But dual boot is about booting two operating systems off the same HD you have to define it in the MBR that its in another HD is all
[04:40] <Johnny_Giggles> soreau: I mean an ubuntu executable file that exists in a FAT file system
[04:40] <molgan> @Polygamy how?
[04:40] <mister_m> are certain distros better than others for laptop battery life? What makes them better if there are?
[04:40] <soreau> Johnny_Giggles: I believe in that case, you can just run it and it will assume it's executable though I'm not certain
[04:41] <antihoax> hi
[04:41] <Johnny_Giggles> soreau: well that's not very safe.  That means I can execute any old file
[04:41] <molgan> how do you edit the MBR to tell it that I there are 2 hdd's
[04:42] <soreau> mister_m: Probably the biggest factor is graphics drivers, most of which are included in the kernel. So it shouldn't make a difference if you use the same devices with the same drivers loaded on a different distro
[04:42] <Polygamy> molgan: what do you mean how? when you install the ubunut partion it should recignize that there is a a windows partion on the prim HD,
[04:42] <Polygamy> It does it for you durring the install..
[04:42] <soreau> Johnny_Giggles: Again, I'm not 100% on that. You'd have to try it and see
[04:42] <molgan> for some reason it messed up the windows partition..
[04:42] <Polygamy> molgan: just dont install windows on a Linux partion,
[04:42] <soreau> molgan: messed up how?
[04:43] <molgan> the mbr is rewritten for grub, and grub didn't recognize windows at all.
[04:44] <soreau> Polygamy: Alright, so glxgears works and glxinfo looks fine but assaultcube fails.. can you try another game like openarena? (also available in ubuntu repos)
[04:44] <Polygamy> molgan: GRUB and lilo should both recignize the partions
[04:44] <seed_> afaf
[04:44] <Polygamy> obtaining it now soreau
[04:45] <Polygamy> molgan: i think you may have written over your flaged partion or something then
[04:46] <hobomo> can anyone help me with an ssh problem???
[04:46] <Polygamy> molgan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:46] <soreau> ! anyone | hobomo
[04:47] <serene> !details
[04:47] <Polygamy> hobomo: Whats SSH?
[04:47] <hobomo> i wasnt sure if you guys gave that kind of advice but here goes
[04:47] <molgan> ssh*
[04:48] <soreau> Polygamy: ssh means secure shell
[04:48] <soreau> ! ssh | Polygamy
[04:48] <serene>  /list
[04:48] <mister_m> soreau: well I get about an hour and 40 minutes with aggressive powersaving, which is kind of a bummer
[04:48] <molgan> @Polygamy: both of the partitions have boot flags
[04:48] <Polygamy> soreau: i was not being honest, i am aware what SSH is. i was giving him shit for asking if he can ask a question
[04:49] <antihoax> anybody uses gnome?
[04:49] <Abhijit> me
[04:49] <molgan> yes.
[04:49] <Polygamy> molgan: you need to pastebin your grub config
[04:49] <antihoax> updated and it died
[04:49] <soreau> ! language | Polygamy
[04:49] <Polygamy> antihoax: yes
[04:49] <antihoax> so now i have to use kde
[04:49] <soreau> mister_m: What graphics driver?
[04:49] <Polygamy> soreau: my appoligiez
[04:49] <thomedy> so i need to dal boot... im wondering if i rm -rf from / can i still install a system... i think that might be easier than partitioning right now
[04:50] <thomedy> any thoughts
[04:50] <Abhijit> antihoax, which version of ubuntu?
[04:50] <soreau> thomedy: No. you need to repartition
[04:50] <antihoax> itss RHEL 6 core
[04:50] <Abhijit> antihoax, #rhel
[04:50] <thomedy> so no matter what im going to be fdisking
[04:50] <thomedy> ?
[04:50] <urlin2u> thomedy, why can't you partition?
[04:50] <Polygamy> antihoax: you can use whatever you want. thomedy you cant you need to partion it as soreau  says
[04:51] <mister_m> soreau: I have ones from nvidea
[04:51] <thomedy> i can but i dont know how and i don't want to break anythign i was able to find a man pagge and a thing similar to the man page but
[04:51] <hobomo> so i had an ssh server set up that worked consistently for a while. after i moved to a different location, i tried to reset everything up, and things do seem to work at first. however, without fail, after a few days the ssh server just seems to stop working. the software itself runs, but i cant seem to connect with any clients. the only things that have changed since moving is that im using a different router and i have a different ISP. any
[04:51] <Polygamy> thomedy: what are you doing.. Dualbooting windows and Linux or linux and linux?
[04:51] <hobomo>  idea whats going wrong?
[04:51] <thomedy> thats about it so far... granted i was at dinner with my family before the leave the state
[04:52] <thomedy> windows and linux
[04:52] <antihoax> i'm thinking about installing a linux from scratch
[04:52] <Abhijit> antihoax, this channel is for ubuntu question only. offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:52] <Polygamy> hobomo: Are u using a DNS ?
[04:52] <thomedy> i just started web design and devel and need ie.. and also im in college and need oracle for a class
[04:52] <Abhijit> antihoax, for red hat question please use either #fedora or #rhel
[04:52] <antihoax> i dont have any questions for them <;
[04:53] <Polygamy> antihoax: Try Arch linux
[04:53] <Abhijit> antihoax, you just said you are using red hat 6
[04:53] <somsip> antihoax: try Linux From Scratch :)...OT
[04:53] <molgan> where is grub config file?
[04:53] <Abhijit> !grub | molgan
[04:53] <antihoax> somsip<< yeaah maybe
[04:53] <hobomo> Polygamy, yes but the internal IPs seem to be static
[04:53] <xistance> I recently upgraded my Nvidia Video Card Driver to the most recent from the nvidia.com webpage, but I would like to rollback to the 270 or whichever it is that comes with the latest ubuntu install
[04:54] <antihoax> on linux isnt ati is the option?
[04:54] <antihoax> nvidia is only binary and incompatible
[04:54] <Polygamy> boot/grub
[04:54] <xistance> antihoax: But ubuntu comes with drivers ready for it?
[04:54] <Polygamy> hobomo: USE THE IP's instead of the DNS and make sure
[04:55] <thomedy> i have a gparted iso but i am not sure what to do with it yet... im going to google right now
[04:55] <antihoax> ok
[04:55] <antihoax> but you wont get 3d performancce
[04:55] <Polygamy> my bet would be the IP's changed and the DNS is no longer pointed to the proper ip
[04:55] <antihoax> it will work... i have a nvidia now too
[04:55] <antihoax> it works for desktop
[04:55] <xistance> I was playing Starcraft 2 on around 60 fps, it was doing fine I just want to see if I get better performance on the driver that it came wiht
[04:55] <antihoax> nothing else
[04:55] <antihoax> nah ok openttd works too
[04:55] <Polygamy> antihoax: Nvidia works a lot better then ATI GPU's in linux.
[04:56] <xistance> Does anybody know how I can rollback the driver so I can use the one that Ubuntu came with rather  than this one I downloaded from nvidia
[04:56] <antihoax> Polygamy<< even if its true, you cant put nvidia binary on kernels they didnt make it
[04:56] <hobomo> Polygamy, sorry i misunderstood the question. im not using a DNS. im trying everything with IPs for now and trying to get that to work.
[04:57] <antihoax> since its not opensource
[04:57] <Polygamy> antihoax: your right.. but whats your purpose ?
[04:57] <hobomo> Polygamy, and using the static IPs, nothing is working.
[04:57] <thomedy> is it easy to partition a drive in linux i have done it in windows
[04:57] <thomedy> dos...it wasn't that bad
[04:57] <soreau> Polygamy: Does openarena work?
[04:57] <Polygamy> hobomo: is the server in front of you?
[04:58] <antihoax> well wanted to try install binary driver but didnt work out ( having 64 bit machine, and 3.0.3. realtime kernel )
[04:58] <hobomo> Polygamy, yes
[04:58] <Polygamy> soreau: give me a moment, just finished downloading
[04:58] <Polygamy> soreau: No crashes stating GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[04:58] <Polygamy> another OpenGL issue
[04:58] <xistance> Can anybody answer my question would be greatly appreciated
[04:59] <Polygamy> hobomo: are u on the same network?
[04:59] <soreau> Polygamy: Interesting.. definitely a graphics driver issue then. Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[04:59] <hobomo> Polygamy, yes
[05:00] <Polygamy> hobomo: "top" and make sure the service is running currently again plz
[05:01] <hobomo> Polygamy, /usr/sbin/sshd is running
[05:02] <Polygamy> soreau: http://pastebin.com/qRENhnws
[05:02] <MrSassyPants> what is the generic 'do that' file ?
[05:02] <Polygamy> hobomo: when was your last reboot?
[05:02] <MrSassyPants> sorry, I'm sorty zoning out
[05:02] <MrSassyPants> the generic 'do that' rc file
[05:03] <MrSassyPants> the script that just gets executed
[05:03] <Polygamy> bash.rc?
[05:03] <hobomo> Polygamy, about 48 min ago
[05:03] <MrSassyPants> on boot up
[05:03] <mister_m> soreau: I am on fedora with a GeForce 9300M GS, and the following kernel modules: nvidia, nouveau, nvidiafb
[05:03] <MrSassyPants> like, local.start
[05:03] <somsip> MrSassyPants: .bashrc or .bash_profile or .bash_aliases
[05:03] <MrSassyPants> somsip, definitely no
[05:03] <somsip> MrSassyPants: Or /etc/rc.local ?
[05:03] <soreau> mister_m: Why are you asking in #ubuntu when you're using fedora?
[05:03] <MrSassyPants> I'm talking about start scripts
[05:03] <ex0> hey im having problem killing a process in ubuntu, transmission is hungup and wont respond to kill commands or anything
[05:03] <Polygamy> somsip: thanks for the correction, i was meaning .bashrc
[05:03] <ex0> any insigh??
[05:04] <MrSassyPants> somsip, ok
[05:04] <Polygamy> hobomo: interesting. when was the server working last?
[05:04] <Polygamy> ex0: Reboot
[05:04] <mister_m> soreau: #fedora has the tendency to yell at you about using closed source stuff isntead of a simple IDK
[05:04] <Abhijit> ex0, if you can go to ctrl alt f1 then try killall -9 -1
[05:04] <ex0> Polygamy: lol obvious, was just curious of another method is all thanks
[05:04] <soreau> Polygamy: Looks good.. you should probably ask in #intel-gfx
[05:05] <yacc> ex0: ps ax | grep D => look for processes in state D
[05:05] <ex0> Abhijit: thanks
[05:05] <Polygamy> soreau: thats what im not getting either lol.... thanks for your time sir
[05:05] <Abhijit> ex0, that will exit the whole session
[05:05] <ex0> yacc: thank you very much
[05:05] <yacc> ex0 run it multiple times to see if a process is stuck in D state.
[05:05] <hobomo> Polygamy, the last time i tried connecting was sometime this morning (14-15 hours ago) and everything was working. i just tried again and 30 min ago and thats when i realized it wasnt working.
[05:05] <Zanzacar> Does anyone know how to setup the IOMonitor in Powernap Configuration file?
[05:06] <molgan> @Polygamy: pastebin.com/XAaV2EFR I think. is right
[05:06] <hobomo> Polygamy, about 30 min ago*
[05:06] <Polygamy> hobomo: take it down to net2 or reboot
[05:07] <Polygamy> or try killing and restarting the process
[05:07] <hobomo> Polygamy, restart sshd?
[05:07] <yacc> Abhijit, you meant probably kill -9 -1 (killall matches programs, kill -9 -1 => If pid equals -1, then sig is sent to every process for which the calling  process  has  permission  to  send  signals,  except for process 1 (init), but see below.)
[05:07] <SnowMan> hello
[05:07] <Abhijit> yacc, yeah
[05:07] <ex0> how do you resume desktop after ctrl+alt+f1
[05:07] <Polygamy> hobomo: yes if that does not work, take your system to net2 or reboot the system again
[05:08] <Polygamy> ctl alt f12
[05:08] <ex0> Polygamy: Thank you sir.
[05:08] <Polygamy> ex0: your welcome
[05:08] <yacc> interesting, nouveau does have artifacts while scrolling, but it gets worse when memtester is running stealing 5GB RAM and burnMMX is putting stress on the memory interface, ...
[05:09] <Abhijit> ex0, ctrl alt f7 or f8
[05:09] <Polygamy> soreau: is there a way to get voiced in intel-gfx?
[05:10] <soreau> ! register | Polygamy
[05:10] <ex0> for what Abhijit
[05:10] <soreau> Polygamy: You need to use a registered nick
[05:10] <Polygamy> lol..... thanks soreau
[05:10] <Abhijit> ex0, to resume from ctrl alt f1
[05:11] <ex0> which is it f12, f7, f8???? lolz =\\
[05:11] <pharaohone> ok i have a question this may or may not be the right place to ask
[05:11] <molgan> question about getting grub to recognize two hdd's with Ubuntu 11.04 and windows 7 pro on it.
[05:11] <somsip> !ask | pangolin
[05:11] <yacc> ex0, Alt-Fn switches to console n when in text mode. Ctrl-Alt-Fn switches to console n when X is running (but should work in text mode too). X :0 is usually running on vt7, but in some cases might be on v8 or even vt9
[05:11] <somsip> pangolin: oops - nick completion...
[05:12] <Abhijit> molgan, which os is on external hdd?
[05:12] <molgan> niether, this is a desktop with 2 hdd;s
[05:13] <molgan> hdd's*
[05:13] <ex0> thank you yacc
[05:13] <cappicard> good evening. i'm attempting to undervolt my toshiba satellite, but when i build the phc drivers and install them, i never get the /sys/devices/cpus/cpu0/cpufreq files.
[05:14] <yacc> ex0: you can also run dmesg | grep RIP: which should report nothing. (dmesg gives you the kernel messages, RIP: is part of kernel oops)
[05:14] <Abhijit> molgan, see here http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/mandriva-linux/134278-booting-windows-second-hard-drive-grub.html
[05:15] <xistance> Is it possible for me to rollback my nvidia driver from the most recent to the one that comes with Ubuntu's latest release
[05:15] <pharaohone> OK, so I have a gateway box about a year old with a 1 TB harddrive running windows 7, I wanna start duel booting ubuntu, with one small partition for windows (60 gb), another small partition for ubuntu (60 gb) and then a third partition where I will keep all my data for use in both, however the problem is there are already 3 partitions, one for win7, one called System that i know im not supposed to fuck with and a third called pqse
[05:16] <pharaohone> any help on how to do that, or what would be the best thing to do would be greatly appreciated
[05:16] <rodayo> When will the first release of Ocelot come out?
[05:16] <Polygamy> hobomo: whats the verdict?
[05:16] <xistance>  
[05:16] <xistance>  
[05:16] <xistance> Is it possible for me to rollback my nvidia driver from the most recent to the one that comes with Ubuntu's latest release
[05:16] <FloodBot1> xistance: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <yacc> ex0:  D state means the process is in kernel mode, not interruptible (basically stuck in a device driver doing naughty things where nobody would want to abort it the hard way, no matter what). Is nowadays usually a result of a kernel problem (which usually results in kernel oops being printed), and often results in other processes getting stuck too when they try to access the resource in trouble.
[05:17] <troller321> me sad
[05:17] <GirlyGirl> pharaohone: You can remove windows sys partition by following instructions here
[05:17] <GirlyGirl> pharaohone: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=409
[05:18] <hobomo> Polygamy, sorry for taking so long. i just remembered that i also have an ipod touch that is connected to the network that is also running an ssh server. im testing that right now.
[05:18] <thomedy> can someone send me to a good tutorial for partitioning a drive to make space for windows
[05:18] <yacc> ex0: it sucks because you usually have to reboot to get rid of the problem, and that has a slight "unhonorable" taste for old time Linux users.
[05:18] <Polygamy> hobomo: the issue is with your server not your router..
[05:19] <Abhijit> yacc, he had left
[05:19] <yacc> Abhijit, just noticed ;)
[05:19] <hobomo> Polygamy, how can you tell?
[05:19] <yacc> Abhijit, nick completion is so informative :)
[05:19] <Abhijit> yep
[05:19] <Polygamy> hobomo: test and ping me ur results
[05:19] <pharaohone> GirlyGirl: thanks for the response, but wouldnt it be safer to remove pqservice instead?
[05:19] <yacc> Abhijit, well, some people do not like to be educated about the why ;)
[05:19] <GirlyGirl> pharaohone: Or you can have 4 partitions
[05:19] <Abhijit> yacc, :-)
[05:20] <Polygamy> hobomo: with my experience, routers dont just start blocking ports. and most of the time, you can SSH through a firewall without issues and without having to use a forward
[05:20] <GirlyGirl> pharaohone: Just format pqse into the extra
[05:20] <pharaohone> is there a way I could have 4 partitions and still  have the common data partition i was talking about?
[05:20] <GirlyGirl> pharaohone: Or you can reinstall windows then do everything as you like it
[05:21] <pharaohone> GirlyGirl: I apologize, but what does that mean exactly and how do i do it, format pqservice into the extra that is
[05:21] <hobomo> Polygamy, i dont know how you know, but i think you're right. im able to connect to the ipod ssh server, but i still cant connect to my laptop ssh server (even after restarting the sshd process)
[05:21] <yacc> pharaohone, yes.
[05:21] <Polygamy> pharaohone: whenever you install a linux Partion, you can still ALWAYS read your windows partion
[05:21] <yacc> pharaohone, Linux has no problem with being installed into an extended partition as such.
[05:21] <GirlyGirl> pharaohone: yes
[05:21] <Polygamy> hobomo: Just restart your server please
[05:22] <hobomo> Polygamy, you mean restart sshd? i did
[05:22] <Kevin1a> I need a recomendation for a image hosting site that is supportive of open-source and net neutrality principals.
[05:22] <zykotick9> pharaohone, just to throw another issue your way - gnu/linux USUALLY has at least two partitions required / and SWAP... just sayin'.  Good luck.
[05:22] <uf13> Hi! Any Mac/Debian users in here?
[05:22] <Polygamy> hobomo: no i mean take your laptop power it down and then back up
[05:22] <pharaohone> Polygamy, does that mean I'd be able to access data files on my windows partition while in ubuntu?
[05:23] <hobomo> Polygamy, ok ill be back in a few minutes
[05:23] <Polygamy> pharaohone: if its on a partion yes with 3rd party applications
[05:23] <Polygamy> pharaohone: but not nativly
[05:23] <yacc> Abhijit, well, ex0 has probably a simple problem, hunting down corrupting bit errors (it's probably related to SATA/IDE in my case and/or memory) that sucks.
[05:24] <yacc> Abhijit, the state of art in this topic hasn't moved far in the last two decades.
[05:24] <molgan> anyone know how to edit grub.cfg to correctly run windows that is installed on another hdd?
[05:24] <Abhijit> pharaohone, you can access files from ubunut. but not applications. you do not need 3rd party applications for standard format files e.g. images. office files can be read by libreofice
[05:24] <pharaohone> i wanna be able to do it natively... how do I get rid of pqservice safely.. or somehow push it to another partition and then delete it
[05:24] <Abhijit> yacc, yeah. m not expert in that issue.
[05:24] <yacc> (well, we do have memory testers that claim to be exercising the hardware hard, so we don't have to rely on compiling the kernel in a loop)
[05:24] <zykotick9> molgan, don't.  Try "sudo update-grub" and see if windows is automatically added.
[05:25] <molgan> @zykotick9: trying now.
[05:25] <davers> hallo
[05:25] <pharaohone> abhijit... so the easiest thing to do essentially would be to leave the partitions the way they are, keep all my data on my windows partition, and just create a 4th ubuntu partition?
[05:25] <davers> i need some help setting up this thing called nfs
[05:25] <Abhijit> pharaohone, yes that can be done.
[05:25] <uf13> "Hi! Any Mac/Debian users in here?" <-- Anybody with an awesome brain that is good at solving problems will do just fine as well. :>
[05:26] <molgan> nope.
[05:26] <pharaohone> abhijit, how can i do it?
[05:26] <davers> or is there a noob channel i can go to instead lol
[05:27] <Abhijit> pharaohone, when you have a ubuntu installed then login it then go to Places menu and you will see the partitions of windows. just click on hte partition you want to access. thats it
[05:27] <pharaohone> ok thanks... I think im going to take the plunge and finally install linux
[05:27] <Abhijit> ok
[05:27] <Polygamy> Abhijit: are you telling him that he is able to read EXT partioned files on a NTFS platform?
[05:28] <Abhijit> Polygamy, reverse of it
[05:28] <Abhijit> ntfs from linux
[05:28] <Polygamy> oh.
[05:28] <thomedy> okay i need windows and nothin is working
[05:28] <yacc> Any one got an idea how to convert /proc/<N>/maps to refer to physical addresses?
[05:28] <thomedy> help?
[05:28] <pharaohone> Wait
[05:28] <pharaohone> abhijit
[05:28] <Abhijit> pharaohone, you can read windows files from linux. but you can not read linux files from windows. for that you need some ext driver which i dont know how to do
[05:28] <Polygamy> alright, as i said before you can always read NTFS off of a EXT partion you just have to know where it is located ;)
[05:29] <GirlyGirl> Abhijit: pharaohone Or ms Fat32
[05:29] <Abhijit> pharaohone, and this is windows's problem not linux's
[05:29] <davers> is there an easy walkthrough for how to set up my freshly installed ubuntu to be a nfs server for a few mac & win clients on a local network?
[05:29] <somsip> Abhijit: there is an ext2 read/write for windows
[05:29] <hobomo> Polygamy, still doesnt work
[05:29] <pharaohone> abhijit, so say im on linux, and i download a document, would i be able to download it onto the windows partition directly?
[05:29] <yacc> pharaohone, but there are extN drivers for windows, but as a Windows-non-user it's hard to help you, googling it should be easy enough.
[05:29] <Targen> hi.  i have this problem: <https://gist.github.com/9a134d9d26cff189edeb>.  basically, apache2 won't install because some of its dependencies are broken packages or somesuch.
[05:29] <Targen> how may i solve this?
[05:29] <Abhijit> pharaohone, yes. you can.
[05:29] <Polygamy> pharaohone: You need a 3rd party application http://www.fs-driver.org/
[05:30] <Abhijit> Polygamy, when you say you need 3rd party tell him also that in which scenario he needs 3rd party drivers
[05:30] <zykotick9> davers, does Windows even have an NFS client?
[05:30] <molgan> I can not find windows bootable OS from grub, an trying to get it to recognize in grub so I can boot both.
[05:31] <yacc> Polygamy, don't think so, just mounted an NTFS snapshot that I've got for analysis here, and I can write files on it with the NTFS driver included in 10.04LTS
[05:31] <pharaohone> ok so thats essentially the easiest thing for me to do anyway, as long as i can use and manage all my  files from either OS i dont care how I do it, when Im on windows Ill create and dL files to my windows partition, and as long as i can do the same while im on linux thats fine
[05:31] <davers> zykotick9, i dunno, i'm just following a tip from a friend on the whole nfs thing. i just want to use this box as a server but i'm superdumb with network stuff
[05:31] <Abhijit> aaah. there is confusion pharaohone
[05:32] <zykotick9> davers, using Samba for MS/Mac client's is probably easier.  Good luck.
[05:32] <pharaohone> abhijit, whats that?
[05:32] <Polygamy> yacc: whats the driver name?
[05:32] <yacc> pharaohone, expect to be able to write to NTFS from Linux. (The worst that could happen is that you'll need to sort out which NTFS implementation to use, but it seems that the one included in Ubuntu is read-write)
[05:32] <somsip> pharaohone: I intended to do that. Within a couple of months, everything was on Unbuntu, and I only uses Win on a VirtualBox VM, writing to a Virtual share
[05:32] <Abhijit> pharaohone, you can easily access win from linux but for accessing linux from win you need to install drivers somene above pointed out that there is ext2 driver but not sure abotu ext 3 and 4
[05:32] <davers> zykotick9, thanks. i read that it's slower but i guess i'll be a good starting point..
[05:32] <yacc> Polygamy, it's fusebased. First detail.
[05:32] <Abhijit> pharaohone, and accessign lin files from windows is not reliable. sometiems it can damage your linux partition
[05:33] <yacc> Polygamy, pharaohone: ntfs-3g
[05:33] <yacc> Polygamy, pharaohone: ii  ntfs-3g        1:2010.3.6-1ub read-write NTFS driver for FUSE
[05:33] <zykotick9> davers, nfs is great for linux/unix clients.  OK for Mac ones, and I've never heard of it used for Windows (but i suppose it might be possible)
[05:33] <pharaohone> but i wont need to access linux from windows, as long as Im able to create/download/manage all my files onto the windows partition while im running linux... does that make sense?
[05:34] <seed_> hello
[05:34] <Polygamy> pharaohone: ARE U RUNNING LINUX?
[05:34] <Abhijit> pharaohone, yes it makes sense. you can do it
[05:34] <zykotick9> pharaohone, be aware that gnu/linux cannot apply any permissions to NTFS/FAT partitions.
[05:35] <yacc> zykotick9, *ahem* how is NFS great for Unix/Linux clients? (just an internal question, I know it's the Unix "networking" standard, so your answer meats the political-correctness test, but it's PITA in many ways, especially if you do not have a common administration domain)
[05:35] <davers> zykotick9, well i'm past the point in my life where i choose to do things the hard way just because. right now i want a place that all the people in the house can store their shit and i'm the techiest guy in the house so whatever's easiest for me. samba i'll try. thanks again
[05:35] <pharaohone> polygamy, not yet, I plan on loading it up as soon as I figure out what Im gunna do... so say for instance I create a document while running linux, Ill save it directly to my windows partition, or if i download a file or whatever, as long as All my files are in one place and I can always access them from either OS i dont care how i do it
[05:36] <zykotick9> yacc, nfs is simple, samba is hard.  create an exports file and you're done.  "great" ;)
[05:36] <Polygamy> pharaohone: Install Ubuntu you will be able to do what you want to do. Dual boot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[05:37] <davers> zykotick9, did you put those backwards? i'm confused. if samba's the easier one, which package thingy do i grab?
[05:37] <yacc> zykotick9, yeah, but for a long time (good question if it still applies), mount a SMB share and you get decent performance. Mount NFS, welcome to admin hell to make it perform ;)
[05:37] <pharaohone> and this seems like the easiest way as of now... will storing/accessing files on my windows partition in any way cause some sort of slow down... for instance if i play a movie in linux thats stored on my windows partition that wouldnt be slow for any reason would it?
[05:37] <yacc> davers, well, NFS is easier to setup on the server side. The configuration file is really simple.
[05:37] <pharaohone> polygamy, this is the tutorial im using http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[05:38] <Polygamy> pharaohone: not really
[05:38] <zykotick9> davers, sorry that comment wasn't for you.  Personally, i can't stand Samba, i find it unstable/difficult to use.  BUT i don't run Windows.
[05:38] <yacc> davers, samba OTOH has a rather baroque collection of options you can configure.
[05:38] <Polygamy> davers: i agree dont use samba
[05:38] <pharaohone> polygamy, that not really makes me nervous lol
[05:38] <davers> yacc, i also hafta make it super easy for everyone in the house to access the files on this server. win&mac
[05:38] <Polygamy> pharaohone: go install natty
[05:38] <Polygamy> or 10.4
[05:38] <yacc> davers, samba => looks and smells like a Windows server, probably even to Mac boxes.
[05:38] <pharaohone> i dont know what that means
[05:39] <hobomo> Polygamy, my ssh server still doesnt work
[05:39] <davers> hm i wonder if it'd just be easier to install windows then.. lol
[05:39] <Polygamy> pharaohone: 10.4 is nice i like the look for natty These are all ubuntu OS versions which receive alis's kinda like mac with their OS's called Lepord etc
[05:39] <davers> but, i'm already here i guess
[05:39] <Polygamy> pharaohone: you wont regret the dual boot unless you delete your windows partion lol....
[05:40] <pharaohone> oh yeah, i knew that lol sorry im a noob
[05:41] <pharaohone> lol ive been meaning to do this for months, I already shrunk my partitions months ago and have ubuntu on a CD waiting to be installed.. I will now take the plunge.. I'll be back in here if I have any problems, thanks for your help everyone
[05:41] <davers> i'm reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1078597
[05:41] <davers> would ftp be easier?
[05:42] <manjrem> between rhel and ubuntu ... what do u prefer?
[05:43] <manjrem> i would say rhel seems better ... with easier command line
[05:43] <Abhijit> manjrem, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:44] <manjrem> ???
[05:44] <Abhijit> !ot | manjrem
[05:44] <manjrem> oops
[05:45] <Jckf> Can someone please help me understand how audio works in Ubuntu? It appears to behave randomly. Touching the controls in ALSAmixer doesn't always do the same thing it did the time before, and I some times get weird distortion, and some programs may or may not play audio depending on.. something I don't know. Very frustrating.
[05:45] <bjoswald83> Welcome to Linux, the audiophile's nightmare
[05:46] <Jckf> bjoswald83 =(
[05:46] <bjoswald83> The audio subsystem has been a convoluted mess since time began
[05:46] <zykotick9> Jckf, it's sad that audio is still such an issue in gnu/linux in general.  It's unfortunately not a specific "ubuntu" issue.
[05:47] <thomedy> i was reading a tutorial on how to remove ubuntu entirely from my machine and put windows on... it looked easy but when i pressed fdisk by itself
[05:47] <thomedy> i get a ehelp men u
[05:47] <bjoswald83> thomedy: Just pop in a Windows CD and boot from it
[05:47] <bjoswald83> It'll guide you through it
[05:47] <thomedy> i tried that it siad it needs space before it will et me do it
[05:48] <sjihs> USB installation of xubuntu is failing at the beginning of the installation process with "unable to mount cdrom" error. I transferred the iso image to USB drive using the unetbootin application
[05:48] <bjoswald83> Okay, did you remove the existing partitions and create new ones?
[05:48] <thomedy> and when i went from the bootable order in that first window and made my usb the first one to boot it still goes to ubuntu...
[05:49] <thomedy> ive never put a windows inmy self only linux and it was never this hard with linux
[05:49] <Jckf> thomedy: If you're trying to install Windows Vista/7, press the little "advanced" link at the bottom right of the disk/partition list. There you will be able to delete all your Ubuntu partitions.
[05:49] <xist> (bjoswald83) lol I got pinged cause you said existing
[05:49] <thomedy> thank you jckf
[05:50] <thomedy> i will try that i don't think im going to make my deadline anymore but what are you going to do
[05:50] <Jckf> This is during the Windows install process, so you have to boot from the DVD first
[05:50] <thomedy> does it mattr that its usb
[05:50] <bjoswald83> It's not really hard at all
[05:50] <Jckf> It shouldn't, thomedy
[05:50] <bjoswald83> You're using a USB-based, external drive?
[05:50] <Polygamy> hobomo: Im sorry was afk
[05:51] <thomedy> okay let me try again... no its a laptop but im booting from usb
[05:51] <hobomo> Polygamy, no problem
[05:51] <bjoswald83> Then you will need to burn a Windows installation to that drive and boot from it
[05:51] <bjoswald83> There might be a guide at Tweakhound.com under the "Ditch Those CDs" entry
[05:51] <Polygamy> hobomo: what are u using to connect to your sshd server?
[05:52] <hobomo> Polygamy, andftp on my android phone
[05:53] <Polygamy> hobomo: have u tried using your ipod?
[05:53] <Polygamy> to ssh into ur laptop?
[05:53] <Atharva> Hi...can I make a usb which may boot rhel 6 using ubuntu ?
[05:53] <Abhijit> Atharva, yes use unetbootin
[05:53] <hobomo> Polygamy, you mean connecting the phone to the ipod server? yes that works
 : OK......
[05:55] <Polygamy> hobomo: i mean installing an app on your ipod and using that to SSH into your laptop sshd server
[05:55] <vsync_> oyeah, steve jobs is finally sleepin' wit da fishes
[05:55] <GirlyGirl> Atharva: Back to RHEL ;-)
[05:55] <Polygamy> hobomo: its possible your andftp service is faulty on your phone
[05:56] <Polygamy> vsync_: Your not funny
[05:56] <vsync_> indeed
[05:56] <Polygamy> vsync_: people like Steve jobs are the reason why were still around
 : Thinking of installing it again to a diffrent laptop...But the laptop dont have a cd drive..
[05:56] <vsync_> na, people like [the guy who invented antibiotics] are
[05:57] <popsch_> how difficult is it to switch from an AMD64 installed version to the x64 version? I installed the wrong one.
[05:57] <gx> I created a new user account and I'm trying to give them SFTP access but limited to their home dir, is there an easy way? Googling hasn't turned up much
[05:57] <popsch_> I mean the x86 one
[05:57] <Abhijit> popsch_, just install the new one.
[05:57] <bjoswald83> As easy as switching CDs and installing the right one
 : Simply format it :)
[05:58] <popsch_> well, I already configured a lot in the system, so I don't want to reinstall everything
[05:58] <Jckf> Where does pulse and alsa's config files reside? I want to kill them :>
[05:58] <MrSassyPants> what's the tool to manage startscripts?
[05:58] <bjoswald83> Then you'll either have to make a backup to restore later or live with x86 version
[05:58] <Polygamy> vsync_: your right
[05:58] <onats> hello, when i do add-apt-repository the command is not found. I am running on 10.04 32 bit server
[05:59] <Jckf> onats: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:59] <popsch_> what's the bad thing about running the amd64 version on an intel processor?
[05:59] <onats> thanks
[05:59] <Abhijit> MrSassyPants, init
[05:59] <hobomo> Polygamy, im using a different client on the ipod, but it still fails to connect to the laptop server
[05:59] <bjoswald83> Nothing
[05:59] <vsync_> popsch_ nothing
[05:59] <bjoswald83> X64 is x64
[05:59] <MrSassyPants> Abhijit, you systematically give the worst answers
[05:59] <vsync_> amd64 is x86_64
[05:59] <popsch_> yes, then why are there two versions?
[05:59] <almoxarife> popsch_: there is nothing wrong, you are fine
[06:00] <bjoswald83> Because x64 is for 64-bit machines
[06:00] <bjoswald83> x86 is for 32-bit machines
[06:00] <popsch_> I installed the AMD64 version, because I need the 64bit version
[06:00] <popsch_> ah, then it's all fine
[06:00] <Abhijit> popsch_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[06:01] <MrSassyPants> a tool that lets one enable and disable individual start scripts - remove them from a runlevel or whatever the scheme is
[06:01] <MrSassyPants> but what is it
[06:01] <Abhijit> MrSassyPants, bootup manager
[06:01] <Polygamy> hobomo: one thing i will point out. if your using sshd as an FTP service then you need to Sftp into it you cant use native FTP applications to do so.
[06:02] <MrSassyPants> Abhijit, rcconf
[06:03] <popsch_> I run in 64bit (with 8GB). I was just worried, because here (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/) it says that I should use the x86 version
[06:03] <gx> Anyone know how I can limit a user to be able to only SFTP in and lock them in a specific directory?
[06:03] <hobomo> Polygamy, i know. im trying to connect through plain old ssh or sftp. nothing is working.
[06:03] <nedkelly> R.I.P Steve jobs
[06:04] <bjoswald83> popsch_: Probably due to compatibility issues with some packages
[06:04] <Ben64> 64 bit works fine
[06:04] <bjoswald83> What he said
[06:04] <popsch_> yes, I'm now using it since two weeks, and I've not encountered any problems.
[06:05] <popsch_> so ubuntu doesn't make decisions, for example, which kernel to get, based on the original install image
[06:05] <exiztential> I'm stumped trying to upgrade 10.04 to 11.04 (via 10.10) I can't find a resolution for the following error "GdkPixbuf-CREITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_pixels: assertion 'GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuv)' failed at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 1200, <Gen6> life 24.
[06:06] <exiztential> I've found similar mentions on google and I believe the answer lies in a symlink to an assertion file/directory, but I'm out of my depth
[06:15] <The_Phoenix> noisewaterphd: It took me 4 hours. lol
[06:16] <The_Phoenix> Oh btw, this is kind of weird. The LAN was working perfectly but I had an old PCMCIA WiFi card lying around. I installed it. Now, whenever I remove the card, non of the hosts resolve. Why is this?
[06:16] <Polygamy> hobomo: check your configureation of your sshd service and make sure you have it setup right and it didnt get changed.
[06:17] <The_Phoenix> (Everything else works. ie I can connect to external IP addresses buit only the DNS resolver isn't working.)
[06:17] <Polygamy> hobomo: Also, make sure that you can talk to it. from the phone. try pinging it or something of that nature
[06:19] <Polygamy> The_Phoenix: then change the ip that is associated to the DNS and your problem is solved
[06:19] <Polygamy> The_Phoenix: thats why you dont use DNS with dynamic ip's
[06:19] <The_Phoenix> Polygamy: I didn't quite follow you.
[06:20] <chirag_d_gr8>  how to replace ubuntu bootloader with mint
[06:20] <Polygamy> The_Phoenix: you stated that you were able to connect via the IP but not the DNS
[06:20] <Polygamy> The_Phoenix: who did you setup your DNS with?
[06:21] <The_Phoenix> chirag_d_gr8: Ubuntu boot loader uses grub. You don't have to replace it with mint.
[06:21] <blackswan> hello here
[06:21] <Polygamy> The_Phoenix: im sorry i dont understand your issue i guess
[06:22] <Polygamy> The_Phoenix: but by what you stated is that your lan was working until you put a PC
[06:22] <blackswan> does anyone know here how to effectively use a bootchart?
[06:22] <Polygamy> PCMCIA wireless card in your laptop and now everything doesnt work?
[06:22] <The_Phoenix> Polygamy: Give me  a minute. Let me rephrase my problem.
[06:23] <Polygamy> and if your using DNS then it seems that its not working because you bumped your table. Alright ill wait :P
[06:23] <blackswan> does anyone know here how to effectively use a bootchart?
[06:24] <blackswan> does anyone know here how to effectively use a bootchart?
[06:25] <The_Phoenix> Polygamy: I'm not following you well. Let me try and explain again. I have a wifi router. I was connected to it via a cable. Everything worked excellent. Router is configured to use Google DNS. I have not setup any DNS for the PC. ie it's like to use router as DNS. Then, I added this PCMCIA card. Everything seems to work fine with it too. But, the card being old, when I use it, the throughput is very low. So, I removed the card.
[06:25] <urlin2u> !repeat | blackswan
[06:25] <The_Phoenix> but ping to 8.8.8.8 is working. When I put the card back in again, DNS works well again.
[06:26] <Polah> chirag_d_gr8, most Linux distributions just use universal bootloaders like GRUB which can load most of the different systems out there.
[06:26] <blackswan> sure ubottu but i have already searched through the above mentioned sites but in vain.
[06:27] <The_Phoenix> blackswan: that's a bot. lol
[06:27] <Polygamy> The_Phoenix: So after you removed the card what is the issue? i am missing part of this
[06:27] <chirag_d_gr8> Polah: i want to deallocate ubuntu partition so i need to overwrite the bootloader with mint
[06:27] <GirlyGirl> The_Phoenix: But installing many linux distros can be stupid as they really are the same thing in different packages
[06:27] <blackswan> lol
[06:27] <blackswan> i thought it was admin
[06:27] <Polah> chirag_d_gr8, oh, to move control over to Mint. Ask in the Mint channel for how to reinstall GRUB from Mint.
[06:28] <Polah> !mint | chirag_d_gr8
[06:28] <The_Phoenix> Polygamy: Simple. The DNS service in the local machine doesn't work whenever the PCMCIA card is unplugged.
[06:28] <The_Phoenix> GirlyGirl: Not if you are dualbooting Ubuntu and DSL or Chrome OS or Slashtop., =)
[06:32] <The_Phoenix> Polygamy: I'm a linux beginner. I have no idea how the DNS resoltion works. But, it looks like for some reason or other, the DNS resolver is using wl0 only and it fails to see the eth0.
[06:33] <Ben64> dns doesn't care about the interface
[06:34] <The_Phoenix> Ben64: PErhaps, the DNS config for eth0 is wrong?
[06:34] <The_Phoenix> But, I didn't setup anything. It should be using the default.
[06:34] <Ben64> interfaces don't have a dns config, its system wide
[06:35] <Ben64> do this... probably on pastebin - "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[06:35] <The_Phoenix> Ben64: I just went through connection info. It shows a different IP for DNS on eth0 and a different one on wl0.
[06:36] <Ben64> then.. change it?
[06:36] <The_Phoenix> Ben64: How? NetMan won't let me edit eth0.
[06:36] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: are the two network cards on the same network
[06:37] <Polygamy> The_Phoenix: You must disable one or the other, you cannot use both..
[06:37] <Ben64> i'm not sure what netman is, but you should be able to change it from System -> Preferences -> Network Connections
[06:37] <ikonia> Polygamy: is this an ubuntu machine ?
[06:38] <The_Phoenix> ikonia: I do have both on. But, only one is activated at once.
[06:38] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: both "on" ?
[06:38] <Ben64> !ops | Pasivo25
[06:38] <The_Phoenix> Ben64: NEtwork Manager. Ubuntu.
[06:38] <ikonia> Ben64: what?
[06:38] <The_Phoenix> ikonia: I mean as in connected.
[06:38] <Ben64> oh sorry
[06:38] <Ben64> didn't know you were op, got a offensive pm
[06:39] <Ben64> i can relay to you if you wish
[06:39] <ikonia> Ben64: jump into #ubuntu-ops and we can discuss
[06:39] <zeerox> i am new to linux as well and im wanting to setup my internet through ubuntu i use a modem, and through windows it resolvs itself... is that done through dchp? is that what i need to setup in ubuntu server?
[06:39] <The_Phoenix> zeerox: DHCP assigns IP.
[06:39] <zeerox> okie thankyou :-]
[06:40] <rww> mrm
[06:40] <zeerox> so if i wanted to share the net with another card, i setup dhcp on one of the cards and setup the static ips on the other?
[06:40] <zeerox> dhcp for the modem that assigns ip
[06:40] <Syria> Package requires installation from untrusted packages, how can I solve this problem please?
[06:42] <XistancE> How do I force ubuntu to boot into metacity and not compizz?
[06:42] <fritsch> XistancE: select ubuntu classic from login screen
[06:42] <The_Phoenix> zeerox: You shouldn't bother about setting up DHCP unless you want static IPs.  One network should be independant of the other. ie, you don't have a point connecting both interfaces to the same network.
[06:42] <fritsch> XistancE: ubuntu classic no effects
[06:43] <webterror> i want get one hosting, i'm in taiwan now, although i buy hosintg of foreign company, in taiwan no problem??
[06:44] <The_Phoenix> ikonia, Ben64 : Thanks for the help. It looks like Network Manager added an arbitary DNS to resolv.conf which doesn't exist. I don't know why it did that though.
[06:44] <The_Phoenix> Thanks you Polygamy for your help.
[06:44] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: probably because your network config is messed up
[06:44] <zeerox> The_Phoenix: well my modem assigns a new ip im pretty sure with my adsl connection everytime it is turned on.... it aint static, so wouldnt i need to setup dhcp for that interface ... and set my other interface (the local network) as static ip setup?
[06:44] <zeerox> sorry if i seem dumb, i am new
[06:45] <The_Phoenix> zeerox: That wasn't dumb. Am new too. The DHCP for your modem is maintained by your ISP.
[06:45] <Polah> zeerox: That would require you contacting your ISP to assign your connection a static address.
[06:45] <Ben64> zeerox: if you have a router, you can keep a static internal IP address, and your public IP can change whenever and it wouldn't affect you at all
[06:45] <zeerox> thats the problem ben it aint a router
[06:46] <zeerox> i am using modem > switch > other pcs
[06:46] <LastArms> hi,
[06:46] <LastArms> does anyone know if it is feasible to repartition a running ubuntu server?
[06:46] <Ben64> that usually won't work without a router, a modem will (usually) only have one ip address to give out
[06:46] <Polah> LastArms: You can repartition everything except the system partition and anything on partitions being accessed at the time
[06:47] <LastArms> it's a media server, so it has only one hdd
[06:47] <zeerox> but if i have 2 network interfaces on the one box.....
[06:47] <zeerox> then i should be able to set it up, cause i can do it in window
[06:47] <Ben64> if you use the computer as a router then it could work yes
[06:47] <apassi> hi, does someone know some simple backup utility, which is able take backups until file space is full, and automatically delete old backup files to gain space for backups?
[06:47] <zeerox> thats what i wanna do ben
[06:47] <zeerox> i want to setup the ubuntu server box as a router
[06:47] <The_Phoenix> zeerox: Create a LAN on the PC with modem and make it the server. Then connect whatever device you want to this server. I haven't setup a network on Ubuntu. So, I have no idea. But, you should be able to assign a static LAN IP and a dynamic IP for your PC on the internet.
[06:47] <LastArms> Polah: is there a way to resize the partition? I tried booting ubuntu using USB and it's not allowing me to resize the partition
[06:48] <Polah> zeerox: If you have just a switch then you'd need multiple IPs assigned by your ISP and then assign to each computer yourself, or a router to use NAT to assign internal IPs to everything behind and maintain one externally-facing public IP assigned by your ISP. Also, if you only have a switch without a router, then there's no firewall/other protection between the internet and your computers except protection running on each individual computer.
[06:48] <Ben64> LastArms: if you're booted from usb, you can resize the hard drive however you wish
[06:48] <Polah> LastArms: Yes, you can resize the partitions to whatever you like as long as they're not mounted/in use when you do it
[06:48] <The_Phoenix> brb
[06:48] <LastArms> Ben64: I tried using gparted and it's not allowing resize of the Ubuntu server HDD.
[06:49] <Polah> !router | zeerox
[06:50] <Polah> Ah, that failed
[06:50] <zeerox> Polah: cant i setup dhcp for the internet interface to get the internet running through the server ......... and static ip on the other interface on the ubuntu server for sharing the net?
[06:50] <Polah> zeerox: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[06:50] <zeerox> cause i got 2 network interfaces running
[06:50] <zeerox> ok well hes gone....
[06:54] <The_Phoenix> I wonder how are DNS IPs assigned. hmm
[06:54] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: what ?
[06:54] <koa> hello
[06:54] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: dns IP are given to the client based on what the ISP sets in the dhcp config
[06:55] <The_Phoenix> ikonia, if I don't give a DNS IP manually, how does the system determine the DNS IP?
[06:55] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: it gets it from dhcp
[06:55] <gx> I'm having the darndest time getting Chroot to work. I want to limit a user to a certain directory, but after I add them to /etc/ssh/sshd_config, the user can no longer log in.
[06:55] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: your router/isp provides you with an IP address, dns ip and network gateway addres
[06:55] <The_Phoenix> ikonia, no wonder. I should've disabled my second DNS server. lol
[06:56] <The_Phoenix> *DHCP
[06:56] <koa> guys when Canonical is gona cut support for ubuntu 11.4 ?
[06:57] <ikonia> koa: 04 2011 + 18 months
[06:57] <koa> if they cut it i lose update ?
[06:58] <ikonia> correct, all updates stop
[06:58] <koa> T_T i need help then
[06:58] <ikonia> koa: so 18 months after it's release support/updates/maintenance will stop
[06:58] <Quetzal> koa: It just means you upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu distribution.
[06:58] <koa> i rllly rlly love 11.4 and i wanna keep it forever !
[06:58] <koa> that the problem i don't wanna upgrade i want it to be stable
[06:58] <Quetzal> koa: 11.10 shall be better though. It still has that cool Ubuntu Unity in it.
[06:59] <toggles> Quetzal: better than that, it has gnome-shell supported
[06:59] <koa> i tryed it :/ big down
[06:59] <beta0x64> koa, you just won't have the latest software
[06:59] <beta0x64> koa, or more accurately, the latest operating system
[06:59] <buddha_> koa: you can always wait for the next LTS 12.04
[06:59] <koa> not rlly i'm happy with what i have right now
[06:59] <Quetzal> koa: The whole point is to stabilize, and pretty soon, the new Long Term Support shall be released.
[06:59] <furyoshonen> How do you fix a segfault?
[07:00] <toggles> use the source..
[07:00] <beta0x64> furyoshonen, you make sure the program makes sense
[07:00] <Quetzal> Use the source luke!
[07:00] <beta0x64> that's not very specific
[07:00] <toggles> furyoshonen: what's the program?
[07:00] <koa> here is my story with ubuntu 10.4 bad on wine side and some drivers and i had night mare with it trying to make it stable
[07:00] <furyoshonen> gnome-screensav
[07:00] <koa> with 11.4 everything work out of the box
[07:00] <toggles> furyoshonen: can you change to a different screen saver?
[07:01] <koa> is there any way i can make a whole dvd of it with everything like the update i have right now and programs ?
[07:01] <toggles> koa: 11.10 is Linux 3.0!
[07:01] <Quetzal> koa: I'm sure you'll not lose this same capability in version 11.10
[07:01] <zeerox> im wanting to setup my internet through ubuntu server i use a modem, and through windows it resolvs itself... is that done through dchp? is that what i need to setup in ubuntu? and on the other interface run static ips to share the net? (all my login pass stuff is through the modem not a router)
[07:01] <Quetzal> Oh and 3.0 is to die for.
[07:01] <koa> that kernel don't play well with nvidia :/
[07:02] <The_Phoenix> Unity doesn't work properly old GPUs.
[07:02] <furyoshonen> toggles: sure, its just the default ubuntu screen saver, but its strange that it is creating problems with my internet
[07:02] <koa> but mine is new
[07:02] <ikonia> koa: the issue you have is you want to use wine
[07:02] <koa> it's 350m gts
[07:02] <koa> yeah
[07:02] <ikonia> koa: that's never going to be a production class option
[07:02] <koa> i run left for dead and other games
[07:03] <ChristW> Hi, I'm having trouble with VGA mode on my server. I've seen that I can add 'vga=xxx' to the kernel boot command line, but /boot/grub/grub.cfg is a read-only file. Is there another place to edit the command line?
[07:03] <ikonia> koa: it will/work/break/work/break different with each week and each different application.
[07:03] <Quetzal> Nvidia will either get better, or we'll use the awesome Nouveau drivers.
[07:03] <ikonia> koa: the bottom line is if you want to run windows programs, use windows
[07:03] <koa> i hate windows
[07:03] <koa> i unstall it cos 11.4 everything work great on it
[07:04] <koa> with 10.4 i used to have windows with it
[07:04] <beta0x64> koa, you could emulate windows if your computer is awesome
[07:04] <ikonia> koa: if you need to use windows applications, it's the most realisitc option.
[07:04] <Quetzal> koa: How much ram do you have?
[07:04] <koa> i have 4 gig
[07:04] <Quetzal> OMFG, why not try using VirtualBox?
[07:04] <ikonia> koa: games require direct hardware access fo virtualisation isn't really an option, and wine is not a production solution
[07:04] <ikonia> dual boot
[07:04] <Quetzal> ikonia: Duelboot sucks.
[07:04] <ikonia> Quetzal: tone down the language
[07:04] <ikonia> Quetzal: no, it's the sensible and realistic approach to running windows applications.
[07:04] <koa> lol but wine is runing rlly great Oo i don't see the point
[07:04] <beta0x64> furyoshonen, that is messed up.
[07:05] <ikonia> koa: today, sure, tomorrow now.
[07:05] <ikonia> koa: it's such a hit and miss option, but it's totally your choice
[07:05] <The_Phoenix> Hmm. I love Ubuntu 11.10 but I find Fedotra easier to use. Everything works like a charm out of the box.
[07:05] <koa> ok i'll follow you
[07:05] <koa> yeah exactly phonix
[07:05] <koa> VirtualBox can it use my full grapic card ?
[07:05] <Quetzal> It's a matter of opinion to describe what's lame, sheesh. And it can be said on tv. (The s word that is)
[07:06] <llutz_> koa: no
[07:06] <theadmin> The_Phoenix: That will last only for a few months though ;)
[07:06] <koa> thta down side then >< omg i adore this thing don't wanna lose it
[07:06] <beta0x64> I use 11.04 because I hear that 11.10 is a memory hog. I'm on a netbook, and I don't believe it's fast enough to handle unity
[07:06] <The_Phoenix> theadmin, i doubt. Fedora still suports PowrePC i heard.
[07:06] <koa> i used 11.10 clean install everything is bad lol
[07:07] <ikonia> Quetzal: you're not on TV, so what is acceptable on TV doesn't matter, if you don't know the ubuntu channel rules, say and I'll direct you to them
[07:07] <ikonia> koa: it's not a stable release yet, hence why it's not working out of the box
[07:07] <Quetzal> It's not a swear word.
[07:07] <The_Phoenix> beta0x64, disable unity. use xfce or lxde.
[07:07] <Idle-Monkey> there u r ikonia
[07:07] <beta0x64> The_Phoenix, is it still really worth it for me?
[07:07] <ikonia> !wtf > Quetzal
[07:07] <Quetzal> And gee, koa want's to use windows in linux, not outside, otherwise. I'm sure he/she would want to do that.
[07:08] <buddha_> beta0x64: better yet, use Lubuntu
[07:08] <koa> well rlly wine 1.3 dos great job
[07:08] <ikonia> Quetzal: as you are seeing the current linux option is not a valid solution for koa hence looking at more realistic long term options for the user
[07:08] <M4dH4TT3r> i want to use both windows and linux in android
[07:08] <koa> my games feeel native under it rlly like windows fps rate
[07:08] <koa> yep ype that ^^ help help me out plz
[07:08] <ikonia> koa: you'll get great experiences like that today, and tomorrow it could be totally different
[07:09] <buddha_> beta0x64: or bodhi
[07:09] <beta0x64> ikonia, what did he do?
[07:09] <Quetzal> koa: Did you tried virtualbox?
[07:09] <ikonia> beta0x64: long term issue,
[07:09] <koa> yep it's was bad to tell the trueth
[07:09] <koa> my ram and my grapich were bad on it
[07:09] <koa> couldn't install anygame
[07:09] <beta0x64> ikonia, okay. I was confused because it just looked like a ridiculous question
[07:09] <llutz_> Quetzal: why should one try virtualbox if the host support for graphics is bad? it won't be better in vbox
[07:10] <Blue1> is anygame like anykey sir?
[07:10] <Quetzal> That's weird.
[07:10] <ikonia> beta0x64: don't worry about it
[07:10] <koa> is there a tweak to let VirtualBox use at least 80% of my gpu ?
[07:10] <Quetzal> llutz_: If that's the case, then he/she should get better graphics then. So the host can have "good" graphics.
[07:11] <The_Phoenix> buddha_, lubuntu=ubuntu+lxde
[07:11] <koa> mine is 1 gig 350m gts
[07:11] <koa> it's rlly good one
[07:11] <ikonia> koa: you're never going to get it as it's not direct hardware access, sorry
[07:11] <Quetzal> I'm not saying it's the best option, but it's a rather good option if you do not like to reboot your computer just to make one little change, or to just use one litle program.
[07:11] <ikonia> koa: although it is improviging
[07:12] <buddha_> The_Phoenix: not totally, Lubuntu's pretty good about stripping away some of the fat, better than just using lxde on regular ubuntu
[07:12] <The_Phoenix> koa, yup. Wine is not meant to give you full hardware accelration and GPU functionality.
[07:12] <koa> yep it dosn't but play very good rlly i'm happy with it
[07:12] <llutz_> Quetzal: vbox for games is the worst solution of all. if you need to run win-games, run win (dualboot, spare computer)
[07:12] <koa> and ubuntu 11.4 stable is very stable <3
[07:13] <The_Phoenix> yup. koa, I'm using dual boot without trouble. It's not hard like old days. It was very very easy.
[07:13] <koa> but i hate windows rlly >< lol
[07:13] <Quetzal> My virtual box experience has never been bad for me.
[07:13]  * theadmin dual boots as well, and has Windows and Linux on separate hard drives to avoid having to reinstall GRUB each time I reinstall Windows
[07:13] <The_Phoenix> I booted up with minitool partition wizard and partitioned. (it can partition well withpout losing data)
[07:14] <koa> i have dual boot b4 i have no problem with it it just i think 11.4 is very stable give me what i want run everything i want
[07:14] <buddha_> except games
[07:14] <koa> so no need for windows 7 i rather have more space to save files one
[07:14] <koa> games run well
[07:14] <koa> i'll show you if you want
[07:15] <buddha_> i trust you
[07:15] <ikonia> koa: don't need proof - it's your personal experience
[07:15] <buddha_> really
[07:15] <ikonia> koa: if you are happy with 11.04 - just keep using it
[07:15] <Quetzal> buddha_: Duel boot just lets you use REAL windows. (as in, not using linux at all)
[07:15] <koa> left for dead 2 60 fps avrage company of heros smoooth as hell and  team fortress 2
[07:15] <ikonia> koa: we don't need convincing
[07:15] <koa> XD
[07:15] <ikonia> koa: if you are happy, continue to use it
[07:15] <The_Phoenix> koa, games run well. or rather, the games you play run well. we are happy for you.
[07:15] <buddha_> duel booting? sounds dangerous
[07:15] <theadmin> lol xD
[07:15] <koa> :D <3 guys
[07:15] <ikonia> buddha_: it's not
[07:15] <almoxarife> I want to insure ipv6 does not ever run, am I better off using the grub option? and does anyone know what it is?
[07:16] <Madpilot> duel booting? that's where the two OSes fight for hard drive space, right?
[07:16] <theadmin> ikonia: It's supposed to be a pun based on the improper spelling of the word "dual"
[07:16] <ikonia> theadmin: ah, sorry
[07:16] <ikonia> missed it
[07:16] <koa> nah i tryed it was rlly easy but i wanted my system to be with more space so i cleard my windows7
[07:16] <Quetzal> Duel boot is cooler.
[07:17] <buddha_> my grub file is a 6 way mexican standoff
[07:17] <koa> but need more space i had bad experince with windows 7
[07:17] <theadmin> koa: Then don't even try Windows 8 xD
[07:17] <The_Phoenix> Madpilot, not anymore. all new linux disros recognise Windows and leave it alone. And, XP won't read the unsupported extended partition. It's a win-win now.
[07:17] <toggles> furyoshonen: can you choose a different screen-saver, like blank or something, if that fixes it then you are done
[07:17] <koa> even my mouse don't work under winodws 7 as it work very good in 11.4
[07:17] <ikonia> koa: ok, I think we get the message
[07:17] <koa> LOL
[07:17] <The_Phoenix> theadmin, 8 is supposedly faster than 7.
[07:17] <ikonia> koa: this channel can be used to help you with ubuntu issues, it's not a general chat channel
[07:18] <koa> sorry
[07:18] <furyoshonen> beta0x64 thanks, any solutions other than turning off my screen saver?
[07:18] <theadmin> The_Phoenix: It is a lot, but the interface is ugly as... I don't want to swear
[07:18] <Madpilot> The_Phoenix, sorry, I was making a feeble pun. Duel as in a fight, vs dual as in "two of"
[07:18] <furyoshonen> toggles: my screen saver is blank
[07:18] <koa> ok guys can i back up my .deb files ?
[07:18] <koa> as whole just in case
[07:18] <ikonia> koa: in case what ?
[07:18] <The_Phoenix> lol theadmin, agreed. metro UI is ugly but it is way more functional. =)
[07:18] <ikonia> koa: the deb files are stored in the ubuntu repo
[07:18] <theadmin> koa: They are *supposed* to be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:19] <koa> i install 11.10 <XD
[07:19] <Ben64> metro is bad
[07:19] <Quetzal> I heard windows 8 will force you to stay using windows 8. I'm sure you will not even be able to duEl boot windows 7 with windows 8. As windows 8 is suppose to have some weird feature that will not allow you to install other operating systems. (It might be a rumor, because this sound ridiculously stupid to me).
[07:19] <furyoshonen> i mean I am reading this correctly, right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/702559/
[07:19] <Quetzal> s/stupid/false
[07:19] <beta0x64> furyoshonen, honestly I recommend reinstalling gnome-screensaver from synaptic, but toggles wants to figure out if it is the individual screensavers executable
[07:19] <koa> they can't they will have opetions i guess
[07:19] <Ben64> Quetzal: you can turn it off
[07:20] <buddha_> in theory
[07:20] <koa> after i backed my .deb how to install them all with 1 click ?
[07:20] <Quetzal> Ben64: Yea, but only if the bios or hardware will even support the feature.
[07:20] <theadmin> koa: dpkg -i /path/to/somewhere/*.deb
[07:20] <koa> that path also inclode my kernel right ?
[07:21] <theadmin> koa: I don't think preinstalled packages would be stored in the APT cache.
[07:21] <grumpy> Quetzal is correct, some manufacturers may not include the option to turn it off.  and microsoft will probably pressure motherboard manufacturers to turn it off.
[07:22] <koa> mush mush thanx man <
[07:22] <koa> <3
[07:22] <gx> can someone please, please, tell me how to add a user with only sftp access, and limited to one directory?
[07:22] <koa> i'll buy dell laptops only :P so they don't lock me with windows 8
[07:22] <grumpy> it will probably mean that you will have to install grub and the signature for grub using windows, so EVERY device will be shipped with Windows (unless its a Mac)
[07:22] <furyoshonen> beta0x64: how do i reinstall the screen saver?
[07:23] <The_Phoenix> People have already succeeded dual bootin 7 and 8.
[07:23] <The_Phoenix> Was featured in Lifehacker.
[07:23] <grumpy> or, linux will have to be installed at the factory, which hasnt taken off, even though dell has tried.
[07:23] <iceroot> gx: chroot os your only way for limited sftp
[07:23] <M4dH4TT3r> koa theres no such thing as getting locked
[07:23] <koa> nice :D linux win again
[07:23] <Quetzal> I love how they say it's for "security purposes". Generally. you can't really get boot-hacked too easily unless your security system is really bad.
[07:24] <theadmin> Quetzal: I don't think getting GRUB signed will be too big of a deal
[07:24] <llutz_> !ot | The_Phoenix grumpy Quetzal please take it to offtopic-chan, this is support only
[07:24] <grumpy> The bottom line is that if you want to support linux in the future, you should buy from System76.com (they load Ubuntu on their machines) - I am not affiliated with them.
[07:24] <Quetzal> The_Phoenix: But windows 8 isn't even out yet.
[07:24] <gx> iceroot: i've been taking chroot tutorials for the last hour, any recommendations? Every tut I follow, I end up not being able to SFTP in as the user (but my other users are fine)
[07:24] <red> Should I install the LTS version on my work PC or 11.04?
[07:24] <iceroot> gx: ssh also not working?
[07:24] <GirlyGirl> !ot | The_Phoenix grumpy Quetzal
[07:25] <iceroot> red: depending what you want
[07:25] <M4dH4TT3r> Quetzal its actually not that hard i use kon boot all the time and of course my flashed thumbdrive
[07:25] <red> and if the LTS version, can it run Unity as 11.04 can?
[07:25] <grumpy> theadmin: I agree, but installing the signature on the motherboard will require an already-installed OS, so unless you already have linux installed, you will have to run windows to install linux
[07:25] <gx> for that user, ssh isn't working either, correct.
[07:25] <red> I quite like it
[07:25] <koa> darn grr not in my country :/
[07:25] <red> just wondering about stability
[07:25] <red> (had more probs in my personal laptop with 11.04 than the LTS)
[07:25] <iceroot> red: 10.04 haqs netbook remix instead of unity (which is more or less the same)
[07:25] <Quetzal> red: That depends on what you want to use. If you want to use Unity, I suggest just installing linux 11.04. Otherwise, get LTS.
[07:25] <grumpy> GirlyGirl: good point; ill shut up...  :-)
[07:25] <koa> 11.4 work like charm on toshiba 3d laptop
[07:25] <iceroot> red: but then i would suggest to use 11.04 which has a newer version of unity
[07:26] <red> 11.04 it is then, thanks
[07:26] <M4dH4TT3r> look at it this way how long did it take for rooting to occur on cell phones
[07:26] <Quetzal> Shhees, was the repeat really necessary?
[07:26] <red> there's no 11.10 I guess
[07:26] <buddha_> not for 7 days
[07:26] <furyoshonen> beta0x64: something like sudo apt-get --purge remove screensaver ?
[07:26] <red> ah
[07:26] <iceroot> red: not as a stable release
[07:26] <Quetzal> red: Theres beta one out right now. So you should try it out when you get the chance.
[07:26] <gx> iceroot: I can SSH in as my other users just fine. I've tried creating a user group and chrooting that as well, same result
[07:26] <red> quetzal: don't really fancy the idea if I have to reinstall or get unstable work environment
[07:27] <red> I can test it at home tho
[07:27] <iceroot> gx: errors in /var/log/auth.log /var/log/daemon.log or /var/log/syslog?
[07:27] <iceroot> red: use the stable release 11.04. there is no reason to use 11.10 now or directly after the release
[07:27] <M4dH4TT3r> hi android
[07:27] <iceroot> red: if 11.04 is running fine for you, everything is fine and should not be changed
[07:27] <red> aight, thanks guys
[07:28] <M4dH4TT3r> do u run ubuntu on your droid?
[07:28] <The_Phoenix> Hmm xubuntu is pretty slow on 2.8GHz/256MB.
[07:28] <red> i've had some weird issues in 11.04
[07:28] <red> some random freezes etc, once or twice a week
[07:28] <red> but that on my home laptop
[07:28] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: with that ram use lubuntu instead of xubuntu
[07:28] <android_> whats the shell command to see what kind of wifi device i have ?
[07:28] <red> it might be hardware related too so :)
[07:28] <The_Phoenix> M4dH4TT3r, I have tried Ubuntu on my Android using chroot. Pretty slow.
[07:28] <M4dH4TT3r> just curious as i recently saw a tut on how to natively run ubuntu on a android device
[07:28] <red> ill take my chances
[07:28] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: enough.
[07:29] <buddha_> android_: iwconfig
[07:29] <android_> thx
[07:29] <M4dH4TT3r> yeah im not talking about using chroot
[07:29] <The_Phoenix> iceroot, network manager?
[07:29] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r: ENOUGH.
[07:29] <Quetzal> red: A good way to decide between versions of linux is to know your full intentional purpose. Would it really kill you if you needed to back up your /home/ folder, re-install Ubuntu and then restore your backups?
[07:29] <furyoshonen> does anyone know how to reinstall gnome-screenaver ?
[07:29] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: what?
[07:29] <android_> nope thats not it lpch somethink ??
[07:29] <ikonia> furyoshonen: open the package manager, search for the package, click "re-install"
[07:29] <gx> iceroot: in auth.log it says 'accepted password', next line 'pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user <<username>> by (uid=0)', next 'subsystem request for sftp by user username', 'received disconnect from ipaddress'
[07:29] <M4dH4TT3r> wtf is ur problem now ikonia?
[07:29] <ikonia> android_: lspci
[07:30] <The_Phoenix> iceroot, LXDE doesn't seem to have a good network management GUI.
[07:30] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: it has a good one
[07:30] <android_> thx again!
[07:30] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: also you can use nm-applet and network-manager on lubuntu instead of wcid
[07:30] <gx> iceroot: so it doesn't really look like any 'errors' per se, its just logging the connection and immediate disconnection
[07:30] <The_Phoenix> m4dc0d3r_, If you run native, you won't have the dialer.
[07:30] <Quetzal> The_Phoenix: LXDE doesn't? I never hard problems when I used LXDE based linux distro.
[07:30] <android_> any one have there wireless connection working???
[07:31] <Quetzal> Had*
[07:31] <iceroot> gx: can you paste the output of "ssh user@host -vvv"
[07:31] <ikonia> android_: totally, yes, many people
[07:31] <iceroot> !paste | gx
[07:31] <The_Phoenix> iceroot, I tried. Not working.
[07:31] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: its working here
[07:31] <Guest4> Hi. Please tell me where can I get some info on mirror/package validation after downloading them from a local mirror.
[07:31] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: so "doesnt work" is a bad description
[07:31] <The_Phoenix> iceroot, do I have to install any addtional packages?
[07:31] <furyoshonen> ikonia: thanks, that was easy
[07:32] <fritsch> Guest4: the package archives are signed with a special key
[07:32] <android_> have tried everything ...........i willgo back to windows if i cant get this ass cable out of here....
[07:32] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: sudo apt-get install nm-applet
[07:32] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: thats all
[07:32] <fritsch> Guest4: if you do an apt-get update it tells you, if everything is right
[07:32] <The_Phoenix> Quetzal, LXDE works good. Only the Network MAnager is giving issues.
[07:32] <Guest4> fritsch, I have that guess, I just want to read about it myself :D Any links / keywords?
[07:32] <toggles> furyoshonen: lol..
[07:32] <ikonia> furyoshonen: sometimes the obvious stuff is easy to miss
[07:32] <Quetzal> android_: How the heck are you doing this? Is drivers missing?
[07:32] <The_Phoenix> iceroot, I have nm-applet working on xfce. Do I have to install nm applet after I install lxde?
[07:33] <Quetzal> Are*
[07:33] <gx> iceroot: ssh -vvv output: http://pastebin.com/yW3ZcJVc
[07:33] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: yes
[07:33] <android_> yes have tried install windows drivers for RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[07:33] <gx> iceroot: do you want the output <after> i enter the password as well?
[07:33] <The_Phoenix> iceroot, so, that was my mistake. will try again. =D
[07:33] <fritsch> Guest4: mmh, you could read the ppa packaging help in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[07:33] <fritsch> Guest4: there is something written about signing
[07:33] <fritsch> Guest4: but not very much
[07:33] <iceroot> gx: important is the part after the password
[07:33] <The_Phoenix> thanks iceroot
[07:34] <Ben64> android_: realtek is easy to get working : /
[07:34] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: if i am correct "lubuntu-desktop" will remove nm-applet and install wcid
[07:34] <android_> REALLY :))))
[07:34] <iceroot> The_Phoenix: so nm-applet have to be installed after
[07:34] <furyoshonen> ikonia toggles: hopefully that will fix the problem
[07:34] <Guest4> fritsch, Thanks a lot! It will be some start point.
[07:34] <gx> iceroot: this is after I enter password: http://pastebin.com/6cxC9tQu
[07:35] <The_Phoenix> Thanks iceroot.
[07:36] <android_> have read that slackware operatingsystem detects my rtl device why dont ubuntu that ?
[07:36] <ikonia> android_: hardware support depends on a few things,
[07:36] <ikonia> android_: what makes you think it's not supported in ubuntu ?
[07:37] <android_> ive tried everything ....cant see anymore tips or tricks online either
[07:38] <ikonia> android_: ok, could you please pastebin the output of iwconfig please
[07:38] <android_> ok
[07:38] <Quetzal> android_: Can your system even see that driver?
[07:39] <android_> no driver
[07:39] <android_> lo        no wireless extensions.
[07:39] <android_> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[07:39] <android_> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:off/any
[07:39] <android_>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=0 dBm
[07:39] <android_>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[07:39] <FloodBot1> android_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:39] <android_>           Power Management:off
[07:40] <Ben64> pastebin being the operative word
[07:41] <Quetzal> android_: Eth0, not wifi, right?
[07:41] <android_> my cable runs Eth0
[07:42] <Quetzal> What do think of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1092687
[07:42] <gx> iceroot: i think i figured it out, it's because i was making that user's home a directory a different, existing directory owned by another user
[07:43] <gx> so now instead i just made their home dir /home/user, and ill make a symlink to the intended directory, hopefully theyll be able to edit files...
[07:43] <gx> not symlink i guess, mount.
[07:43] <android_> seen that page doesnt say alot should i type the shell commands or what ?
[07:43] <iceroot> gx: symlink should be fine
[07:44] <Quetzal> I'll look for something more up to date though.
[07:44] <Ben64> i thought you said wireless wasn't working
[07:45] <Quetzal> android_: Should give it a go, if anything, come back here using live CD.
[07:45] <pratham> i cant load java in my chrome
[07:46] <android_> ok then here goes!
[07:46] <pratham> i cant load java in my chrome it says not
[07:46] <pratham> installed
[07:46] <Ben64> the realtek wired driver has been in the kernel for at least 5 years iirc
[07:46] <buddha_> pratham: i assume you have jre installed
[07:46] <pratham> yes
[07:46] <pratham> but chrome says no
[07:47] <buddha_> yout tried reinstalling?
[07:47] <Quetzal> pratham: Visit this page: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
[07:47] <pratham> how do i reinstall??
[07:47] <Guest4> I might be wrong, but... There was some plugin in Chromium that enables java content. You need to start it with --enable-plugins and then check this plugin in settings.
[07:48] <almoxarife> pratham: still have firefox installed?
[07:48] <greenit> hi, i have a problem: sometimes my internet disconnects, then i have to restart the router... well, and my computer is connected via wlan, and everytime i restart the router, ubuntu asks for the wlan-password again, can i disable this so that it just reconnects everytime i restart the router without asking for the password?
[07:48] <pratham> yes i hv
[07:49] <pratham> ahh got it
[07:49] <pratham> its working
[07:49] <almoxarife> pratham: go to some page that needs java, see if you can see what ever it is you would expect
[07:49] <pratham> just reinstalled chrome
[07:49] <pratham> thx working now :)
[07:50] <almoxarife> happy guy :)
[07:50] <nn52> hello everyone!
[07:50] <buddha_> hi
[07:51] <Quetzal> greenit: Check to see if the wlan signals is really good at all first. (If you must, put the wifi device very close to your computer and test to see how long you stay online for).
[07:52] <greenit> Quetzal, it is the internete connection which disconnects, i also have tested it via wired lan, but it disconnects...
[07:52] <almoxarife> greenit: your wlan key you mean?
[07:52] <Quetzal> greenit: Must be your ISP then. Are you having this issue in other operating systems?
[07:52] <greenit> almoxarife, yes, i have to enter it everytime i turn the wlan off and on again
[07:52] <greenit> Quetzal, yes, in windows too
[07:53] <almoxarife> greenit: your wlan key should be getting saved by default
[07:53] <Guest4> Could it be some router issue when key getting rejected and system asks for a new one?
[07:53] <greenit> almoxarife, it is saved, but everytime i restart the wlan, it asks for the password again, and i have to press enter, thats what i want to get rid of
[07:54] <almoxarife> greenit: asks you for your ubuntu password you mean?
[07:54] <Ben64> i think you need a new router
[07:54] <Quetzal> It might be your ISP, or you can refer to the manual that came with the product.     In ubuntu, theres a feature to automaticially enter/save passwords/keys. I'm sure your router has a feature so it will then stop asking for passwords and such.
[07:54] <Quetzal> Product being the router.
[07:54] <greenit> almoxarife, nope, for the password for wlan, ubuntu thinks that i didnt enter the correct key, because it disconnected
[07:55] <ojii> hi everyone
[07:55] <buddha_> hi
[07:55] <Quetzal> greenit: Then be sure the password is correct then. (If you must, make the password extremely easy or just plain remove password).
[07:55] <ojii> I try to connect two external screens to my laptop (one via HDMI, one via DVI) but the nvidia tool always complains "MetaMode 1 of Screen 0 has more than two active display devices." and if I select "autofix", one of the screens stays black. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[07:56] <greenit> Quetzal, it is correct,i can always connect, just when i restart the router it asks again
[07:56] <Quetzal> SO what's really going on? You disconnect from your NETWORK, or the INTERNET? (You can be connected to your network, and still have no internet)
[07:56] <almoxarife> greenit: normally your wlan key is entered and saved with admin asking for your ubuntu password
[07:56] <fritsch> ojii: what notebook do you have? is it expected, that two digital outputs work at the same time?
[07:57] <almoxarife> greenit: your issues may have more to do with a crippled router though, from what you say about it disconnecting
[07:57] <ojii> fritsch, I have a system76 serval professional with a GeForce GTX 485M, no clue if it's supposed to work
[07:57] <Quetzal> greenit: Well, then that is something to expect, it's a security system, when you turn off your router, of course it will RE-ask for your password. UNLESS you have network password SAVED.
[07:57] <ojii> fritsch, turning off my laptop screen and only using the two external monitors works
[07:57] <ojii> so that part works
[07:57] <greenit> almoxarife, thats not router-specific with the disconnects, it is also with other routers, also the question for the correct password again -.-
[07:58] <almoxarife> greenit: wlan=key , ubuntu=password, which is being asked?
[07:59] <greenit> almoxarife, wlan=key
[07:59] <Quetzal> almoxarife: The key.
[07:59] <buddha_> the key beedledeebeedledeedee
[08:00] <android_> should i logg in as root user when typing sudo in shellcommands??
[08:00] <Quetzal> greenit: Right click on your network ICON/logo/symbol at the corner of the screen for context menu. Then select EDIT Connections.
[08:00] <llutz_> greenit: do you use nm-applet? check you wifi-connection settings, is  "automatic connection" and "make it available to all users" checked?
[08:00] <almoxarife> greenit: have you made changes to the original network-manager or done your own conf edits?
[08:00] <greenit> i dont know why, it automatically connects to the wlan, when it is there _before_ i start the computer, it also automatically connects when i start the router _after_ the computer, but it asks for the password when i am connected and reboot the router
[08:00] <almoxarife> password ? key?
[08:00] <greenit> almoxarife, nope
[08:01] <greenit> ah, sry^^ for the key i mean
[08:01] <Quetzal> android_: You can not login as root. You do not even know it's password (Or at least shouldn't). The purpose of "Sudo" is to be used when necessary. So type in sudo, and you'll then be asked for a password to elevate to root/admin status
[08:01] <almoxarife> greenit: do you get asked for your ubuntu PASSWORD when you enter your KEY?
[08:02] <fritsch> ojii: jep, i think you only have dual head
[08:02] <ojii> fritsch, meaning?
[08:02] <Quetzal> sudo command basically means "My whatever command I type in be a root/super user".
[08:02] <fritsch> ojii: no 3 displays at a time
[08:02] <ojii> fritsch, no way around that?
[08:02] <fritsch> ojii: its a hardware limit, i tink
[08:02] <greenit> almoxarife, now i got asked, thx to llutz_ i looked for "available for all users", then it asked
[08:02] <android_> sudo modprobe 8139too              when i typed this last one ..if i right click on the wireless icon its box is checked wasnt before
[08:02] <greenit> almoxarife, for the password
[08:02] <ojii> fritsch, would an extra gfx card fix this?
[08:03] <almoxarife> greenit: bet you don't get asked again
[08:03] <Guest4> Yes he did. He just wrote it. And Ubuntu remembers the password and uses it on first connection. I believe it's all because PC can't authenticate when router is restarting, so Ubuntu thinks it's because of the wrong password and asks for a new one.
[08:03] <fritsch> ojii: mmh, this is a laptop?
[08:03] <ojii> fritsch, yes
[08:03] <Quetzal> android_: Use all the commands.
[08:03] <fritsch> ojii: where to put the extra card?
[08:03] <greenit> thx for help almoxarife llutz_ Quetzal :)
[08:03] <ojii> fritsch, but a crazy one
[08:03] <Quetzal> Then see what happens.
[08:03] <android_> must go be back !! send msg if u wana help :))))))))
[08:03] <ojii> fritsch, usb
[08:03] <fritsch> ojii: as a separate screen i think it might work
[08:04] <Quetzal> android_: Please let me know if that worked out for you.
[08:04] <fritsch> ojii: but last time i looked usb grahics supoort was not so good in linux
[08:04] <ojii> fritsch, "separate screen"?
[08:04] <ojii> fritsch, it's not, the one i have here doesn't work (there's drivers for it but way too complicated for me to get to run)
[08:04] <fritsch> ojii: to merge screens with multiple devices is still a huge mess with config files
[08:04] <fritsch> ojii: ati has the possiblity to drive 3 screens
[08:05] <ojii> fritsch, but don't their drivers suck?
[08:05] <fritsch> ojii: but thats the only good propriary amd does on linux
[08:05] <fritsch> ojii: like hell, yes
[08:05] <trojanking> hello bro
[08:05] <fritsch> ojii: normal work can be done, but gpu offloading and stuff is a nightmare
[08:05] <kelwynsa8> hi, I've tried a Google for 'slow video playback full screen' and it found a few results. Some say it is compiz and i should change the refresh rate or something. It says to open CompizConfig - how do I do this? I'm on 11.04 Desktop x86 -  while I'm here too, why do I only have 1.9GB available of my 16GB RAM? BIOS says it finds the whole lot, Ubuntu doesn't. I've had 8GB come up on 10.10.
[08:06] <ojii> fritsch, so to recap, my 3rd screen is basically useless on ubuntu?
[08:06] <trojanking> Please i am new to Ubuntu, first time user please i need browsers to work like mozilla about 4 browsers totally needed
[08:06] <fritsch> ojii: no it is useless in every os
[08:06] <fritsch> ojii: it is a hardware limit
[08:06] <ojii> fritsch, i know for a fact that this works on OSX
[08:07] <fritsch> ojii: oha!
[08:07] <fritsch> ojii: you are sure?
[08:07] <ojii> fritsch, some of the mac guys here have 3 external monitors + their laptop
[08:07] <ojii> fritsch, using 2 usb gfx cards
[08:07] <fritsch> ojii: we talk about your nvidia
[08:07] <ojii> fritsch, ah
[08:07] <trojanking> Please i am new to Ubuntu, first time user please i need browsers to work like mozilla about 4 browsers totally needed
[08:07] <fritsch> ojii: if they get 3 screens with only this device
[08:07] <almoxarife> I have an interesting issue I can't find a cure to, when I try to logout via desktop I always find myself having to click on the logout twice, I can't see what is causing it, any ideas? is there a way to tell if I am in two sessions ?
[08:07] <fritsch> ojii: then it should be further investigated
[08:08] <ojii> fritsch, well their main gfx card only handles 2 screens (laptop + 1 external)
[08:08] <ojii> fritsch, they handle the rest over USB
[08:08] <Ben64> trojanking: mozilla firefox works perfectly
[08:08] <fritsch> ojii: just curious question, what do the display on 4 screens?
[08:08] <fritsch> ojii: two screens ist fine, yes - but cannot imagine what to do on 4
[08:08] <buddha_> trojanking: try surf, thats a good one. or epiphany
[08:09] <trojanking> Ben64 and buddha thanks
[08:09] <CimarronTij> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcQElYhRvpY
[08:09] <almoxarife> trojanking: the default browser is firefox=mozilla
[08:09] <ojii> fritsch, i had 4 before (using 2 laptops + synergy), I'm a webdev. so screen 1: shells, screen 2: browser, screen 3: IDE, screen 4: rest (IRC, mail, ....)
[08:10] <fritsch> ojii: hehe, okay - what usb devices do you have?
[08:10] <fritsch> ojii: see if there is a chance to get them going
[08:10] <almoxarife> trojanking: if you want to join the space age, use chrome
[08:10] <ojii> fritsch, not working at that company anymore. i know that the one i have here doesn't work
[08:10] <ojii> fritsch, the one i have here is a club3d
[08:11] <fritsch> ojii: exact model?
[08:11] <ojii>  fritsch 1sec
[08:11] <fritsch> ojii: http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/produkte/leser.de/product/usb-to-dvi-i-graphic-adapter.html <- this one?
[08:11] <trojanking> almoxarife thanks
[08:12] <trojanking> i am using lan to browse
[08:12] <ojii> fritsch, yes
[08:12] <idovecer> hi ppl
[08:12] <cebalrai> Does anyone here know, how the official installer sets the keyboard layout?
[08:12] <trojanking> i dont know if there is anyway i can connect to the internet using my usb modem or
[08:12] <ojii> fritsch, the site we bought it from claimed 'linux support'
[08:13] <fritsch> ojii: what happens if you plug it in?
[08:13] <ojii> fritsch, nothing
[08:13] <Ben64> what happens in dmesg
[08:13] <fritsch> ojii: hehe, what does the kernel say?
[08:13] <fritsch> ojii: dmesg as Ben64 says
[08:13] <mogaj> hi
[08:14] <ojii> fritsch, Ben64 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/488132/
[08:15] <fritsch> ojii: looks good
[08:15] <fritsch> ojii: attach a display
[08:15] <ojii> fritsch, 1sec
[08:15] <trojanking> i dont know if there is anyway i can connect to the internet using my usb modem or
[08:15] <ojii> needa find the cable :D
[08:15] <mogaj> I am getting this message onmy laptop ... "There is a problem with the configuration server.(/usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) .... please ome one help
[08:16] <mogaj> am using ubuntu 11.04
[08:17] <ojii> fritsch, the monitor now lights up bright green
[08:17] <fritsch> ojii: do: xrandr -o 0
[08:17] <fritsch> ojii: and pastebin xrandr -q
[08:18] <ojii> fritsch, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/488134/
[08:18] <fritsch> ojii: could you logout and login again?
[08:18] <almoxarife> mogaj: http://thingsyoudontlearnatschool.blogspot.com/2011/01/fixing-there-is-problem-with.html <-- looky there
[08:18] <fritsch> ojii: gdm gets restarted
[08:18] <ojii> fritsch, is ctrl backspace enough?
[08:18] <fritsch> ojii: yes
[08:18] <ojii> brb
[08:19] <fritsch> ojii: did the xrandr output change?
[08:19] <ojii> fritsch, and i'm back and the screen is still green
[08:20] <Ben64> attach a screen to it, go to System -> Preferences -> Monitors
[08:20] <fritsch> Ben64: if xrandr does not see it
[08:20] <Ben64> should give you a nice graphical interface to change it
[08:20] <fritsch> Ben64: there is no chance
[08:21] <fritsch> Ben64: for the graphical app
[08:21] <ojii> fritsch yes it did
[08:21] <fritsch> ojii: please pastebin again
[08:21] <ojii> fritsch, old output: https://gist.github.com/1266828/d6e675cc429a039b1566cb85ddc8c776c453281b, new output: https://gist.github.com/1266828/58ea542c82f6bdebc8f8e1f2dce2e9f505bb7245
[08:22] <JadedJacob> Has anyone setup a lamp server in ubuntu?
[08:22] <JadedJacob> installing it as a virtual machine using virtualbox?
[08:22] <ikonia> JadedJacob: yes, what's the issue
[08:22] <ikonia> JadedJacob: physical or virtual doesn't matter, it's the same OS, same process
[08:22] <trojanking> Hello all please i have rdp and I can not connect to it, it always lost how do i connect please help its windows rdp which i have the IP
[08:22] <Ben64> JadedJacob: shouldn't be any different than normal install
[08:22] <ojii> Ben64, the monitors app doesn't see the screen
[08:23] <fritsch> ojii: i think there is a chance with edition xorg.conf and placing the correct PCI ID
[08:23] <ojii> fritsch, how do i get the PCI ID? and what would I change xorg.conf to?
[08:23] <fritsch> ojii: dmesg told you the device
[08:23] <ojii> fritsch, ah
[08:23] <shomon> hi, my volume control applet died. It's invisible but I click on it, and the menu still appears, but when I go to sound preferences, it launches a window "waiting for the sound system to respond" and does nothing else. How do I restart sound, without logging out and in again?
[08:23] <shomon> that's on ubuntu 10.10
[08:24] <melvincv> I'm not able to decrypt a pgp file I encrypted on another computer, even though I imported the public key. Please help.
[08:24] <cebalrai> Is there by any chance one of the ubiquity decs here?
[08:24] <cebalrai> *devs
[08:24] <shomon> sorry, I mean ubuntu 11.04 - just upgraded last week
[08:24] <fritsch> ojii: http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[08:25] <ojii> fritsch, is it normal that my xorg.conf is nearly empty? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/488137/
[08:25] <fritsch> ojii: jep
[08:25] <shomon> anyone know how to reinitialise sound in 11.04?
[08:25] <fritsch> ojii: http://mulchman.org/blog/?tag=displaylink
[08:25] <fritsch> ojii: here is a lengthy howto
[08:25] <fritsch> ojii: not very easy though
[08:26] <ojii> fritsch, o.O
[08:26] <fritsch> ojii: it still needs some time :-)
[08:26] <ojii> fritsch, looks like it might be cheaper to just buy a new laptop
[08:26] <sammy> anyone ever use ldap-nss? I'm noticing a debian ldap guide is telling me not to migrate my system users (uids < 1000) to ldap -- but what happens when apt tries to create a new user for a new package? will it get put in /etc/passwd? do users for packages like dbus/messagebus get uids above 1000?
[08:26] <fritsch> ojii: nope
[08:26] <fritsch> ojii: :-)
[08:26] <mogaj> @almoxarife : am still getting same message
[08:27] <sammy> shomon: reinitialize? can you be more specific?
[08:27] <trojanking> Hello all please i have rdp and I can not connect to it, it always lost how do i connect please help its windows rdp which i have the IP
[08:27] <shomon> hi, my volume control applet died. It's invisible but I click on it, and the menu still appears, but when I go to sound preferences, it launches a window "waiting for the sound system to respond" and does nothing else. How do I restart sound, without logging out and in again?
[08:27] <shomon> that's what I posted earlier
[08:27] <almoxarife> shomon: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-reset-gnome-panels-compiz.html , see if that helps
[08:27] <shomon> thanks
[08:27] <fritsch> ojii: but, if you calc with 10hours to get it working in comparison to 10hours work :-)
[08:27] <fritsch> ojii: you could be right
[08:27] <ojii> fritsch, that's what I do
[08:27] <sammy> shomon: I had that issue and googled 'waiting for the sound system to respond' and found some helpful answers. I dont remember what the resolution was, but it was a very common problem
[08:27] <shomon> ah cool, will try that
[08:28] <sammy> shomon: let me know if it doesn't work out. I remember doing something, I just dont remember what :)
[08:28] <shomon> I did reinitialise metacity - maybe it forgot it's sound bits...
[08:28] <shomon> :)
[08:28] <ojii> fritsch, really looking forward to explain this to my boss (a mac fanboy) :(
[08:28] <sammy> also I will kill for inline, underlined spell checking in irssi, ala mcabber. I just spend a half hour trying to find the irssi script with underlining misspelled words, only to remember it was in mcabber
[08:29] <sammy> trojanking: what happens when you try to connect?
[08:29] <fritsch> ojii: there is a solution, but not an easy one :-)
[08:29] <shomon> aha pulseaudio had died...
[08:29] <ojii> fritsch, yea thanks for that, might try it over the weekend or so
[08:30] <ojii> fritsch, thanks for trying to help
[08:30] <sammy> yeah I thought that ldap question might be a bit much for the overnight-english-speaking-world crowd
[08:30] <GirlyGirl> ojii: What is the problem
[08:31] <trojanking> sammy i have windows remote desktop but i am using linux now i want to connect tothe windows rdp
[08:32] <sammy> trojanking: what happens when you try to connect? what application are you using in linux to connect?
[08:32] <trojanking> remote desktop viewer
[08:33] <almoxarife> trojanking: terminal server client should work
[08:33] <kelwynsa8> how do i tell if im connected via G or N?
[08:34] <sammy> kelwynsa8: you can single click the wifi icon near the clock and click 'connection information' should tell you your speed. you can also use 'iwconfig' on the command line.
[08:34] <trojanking> almoaxife how do i get terminal server client
[08:34] <almoxarife> trojanking: its an option in the 'internet' tab
[08:34] <kelwynsa8> sammy, that tells me my connection speed, not if I'm on N or G
[08:34] <kelwynsa8> it says 48Mb/s - then it fluctuates to 54Mb/s
[08:34] <mogaj> I am getting this message on my laptop(ubuntu 11.04) ... "There is a problem with the configuration server.(/usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) .... please some one help
[08:35] <kelwynsa8> my router is set to allow g/b/n sammy
[08:35] <sammy> kelwynsa8: then I'm guessing youre probably connecting at G, you're getting G speeds, anyway.
[08:35] <almoxarife> mogaj: what did you type in terminal?
[08:36] <kelwynsa8> hmm ok sammy
[08:36] <stuk_gen> hi all :)
[08:36] <kelwynsa8> I'll have a Google on how to force N
[08:36] <ojii> GirlyGirl, getting 3 monitors (2 external) to work with my laptop
[08:36] <sammy> kelwynsa8: higher than 54 would be N speeds. it might be a quality issue, if youre too far from the router, or the channel youre using is saturated by nearby wireless routers.
[08:37] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Which graphic card
[08:37] <kelwynsa8> I'm well aware what N is, and no, I live in a very remote area - windows does 300Mb/s, so ubuntu should be able to as well
[08:37] <sammy> mogaj: what are you doing to get this message? where are you seeing it?
[08:37] <ojii> GirlyGirl, nVidia GeForce GTX 485M
[08:37] <sammy> also I'm pleased with this special hilight window for irssi. i wonder how mature the irssi-xmpp project got.
[08:38] <stuk_gen> i have a problemi to set static ip on a ubuntu 11.04 desktop edition. I create two script that change the file in /etc/network/interfaces but this sometimes work and sometimes not work. What is the best method to do this?
[08:38] <kelwynsa8> lshw seems to show it sammy
[08:38] <lebu> i am trying to setup ip tables but i am gettin the error couldnt load match "conntract:/lib/xtables/libipt_conntract.so: could not open shared object file : no such file or directory
[08:38] <ikonia> stuk_gen: why are you not using gnome network manager ?
[08:38] <sammy> kelwynsa8: shows?
[08:38] <ikonia> stuk_gen: when are you putting the info directly into /etc/network/interfaces
[08:39] <kelwynsa8> sammy, lshw -C network ;)
[08:39] <zerox> sorry about the name change ops
[08:39] <GirlyGirl> ojii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703269/
[08:39] <stuk_gen> ikonia: because  i'm not the final user, and for final user is simply click one icon...
[08:39] <ikonia> stuk_gen: then just set it up in gnome network manager, then there is no need to click anything
[08:40] <fritsch> GirlyGirl: his nvidia can only do dualhead, the usb device is his problem
[08:40] <ojii> GirlyGirl, fritsch, well I'd prefer not to use the usb thingy
[08:40] <ikonia> stuk_gen: remove the information frmo /etc/network/interfaces, put the correct info in gnome-network-manager and then it just works, no need to click anything
[08:40] <zerox> i am guessing it is something that didnt install when i installed ubuntu server?
[08:40] <GirlyGirl> ojii: What usb device is this??
[08:40] <stuk_gen> ikonia: gnome-network-manager where is it that file?
[08:41] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Aren't the monitors VGA, DVI, HDMI or S-Video?
[08:41] <ikonia> it's not a file, it's a desktop application, look in the top right of the desktop
[08:41] <sammy> kelwynsa8: look at that, it reports the current link? so if i turn off n on my router it will only show abg? interesting! thanks for the heads up
[08:41] <mogaj> sammy : i havent done anything ... am getting this message when i am switching on my laptop before login screen
[08:41] <kelwynsa8> lol sammy, no probs
[08:41] <ikonia> stuk_gen: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-fixed-ip-address.html
[08:41] <ojii> GirlyGirl, i tried to use the HDMI and DVI port of the gfx card
[08:42] <mogaj> almoxarife: i typed chmod 755 /home/<my username>
[08:42] <ojii> GirlyGirl, the USB device is http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/produkte/leser.de/product/usb-to-dvi-i-graphic-adapter.html
[08:42] <kelwynsa8> also FYI sammy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8346399#post8346399
[08:42] <zerox> i am trying to setup ip tables but i am gettin the error couldnt load match "conntract:/lib/xtables/libipt_conntract.so: could not open shared object file : no such file or directory do i need to reinstall iptables
[08:42] <stuk_gen> ikonia: oh..ok understand. No i can't use ui. Because the final user is stupid :) And he have to set up static ip, and sometimes dhcp. So is to simple click two icon like setIpStatic.sh and setIpDhcp.sh for the user
[08:42] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Why don't you use the g card instead?
[08:42] <ikonia> stuk_gen: set up a static ip option and a dhcp option in gnome-network-manager and he can just select which one he wants
[08:43] <ikonia> stuk_gen: this is exactly the sort of funcitonality it was meant for
[08:43] <ojii> GirlyGirl, when I activate all 3 monitors in the nvidia tool, i get "MetaMode 1 of Screen 0 has more than two active display devices."
[08:43] <ojii> GirlyGirl, if i then select 'autofix', one of the monitors gets turned off
[08:43] <mogaj> almoxarife : i am typing chmod 755 /home/<my username>  after logging in and opening terminal
[08:43] <ikonia> stuk_gen: if he right clicks on gnome-network-manager (once you've set it up) he'll have two options "staic" and "dhcp" the easy way to deal with it and manage it
[08:43] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Which driver version is this?
[08:43] <ikonia> stuk_gen: (sorry it's a left click to list the available networks)
[08:44] <ojii> GirlyGirl, 270.41.06
[08:44] <stuk_gen> ikonia: i have see that i can create more profile in network.manager and ok this is a good idea. But i repeat the user is stupid! is there a way to change the profile with a script?
[08:44] <GirlyGirl> ojii: If you want try updating to latest drivers with these commands and try again http://paste.ubuntu.com/703269/
[08:44] <ikonia> stuk_gen: it's more complex with a script, use the easy tool
[08:45] <ojii> GirlyGirl, guess worth a try
[08:45] <sammy> mogaj: there are quite a lot of suggestions on this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/269215 and google had many more links to ubuntu forum posts. I suggest you check there. seems to be any number of issues; not enough room in /home, incorrect permissions in various files, some people had luck reinstalling gnome-panel. id see if anything looks familiar and give some of the suggestions a try
[08:45] <ikonia> stuk_gen: if the user can click an icon to start a script, the user can click the word "static" or "dhcp" on network manager
[08:45] <zerox> i am trying to setup ip tables but i am gettin the error couldnt load match "conntract:/lib/xtables/libipt_conntract.so: could not open shared object file : no such file or directory do i need to reinstall iptables
[08:45] <magnushc> Has anyone got the wireless to work on macbook pro with 11.10?
[08:45] <magnushc> macbook pro 8.2
[08:45] <stuk_gen> ikonia: yes...and tell to the user what is the network manager :)
[08:45] <ojii> GirlyGirl, I'll be back after the reboot
[08:45] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Ok
[08:45] <ikonia> stuk_gen: it's the network icon in the top of the screen,
[08:45] <ikonia> stuk_gen: once he's done it once he'll be fine
[08:45] <llutz_> stuk_gen: "man 5 interfaces" read about schemes and how to switch between them. but as ikonia stated, nm-applet would be much easier
[08:46] <lebu> i am trying to setup ip tables but i am gettin the error couldnt load match "conntract:/lib/xtables/libipt_conntract.so: could not open shared object file : no such file or directory............. do i need to reinstall iptables?
[08:47] <AdvoWork> if i access my internal site by doing http://IP  can i mask that with a name? like intranet?
[08:47] <iceroot> lebu: is that a vhost?
[08:47] <mao> qui
[08:47] <iceroot> lebu: vserver
[08:47] <lebu> no?
[08:47] <spike> anybody familiar with super grub and isntalling ubuntu booting off of a usb key?
[08:47] <otacon> Is there any support for xbox 360 controller's?
[08:47] <ikonia> spike: just use normal grub2 supplied with ubuntu
[08:47] <iceroot> otacon: should be working
[08:48] <otacon> iceroot: I'm trying to get this wired headset to work with the wired controller
[08:48] <iceroot> otacon: there are linux-drivers, dont know if they are built into ubuntu
[08:48] <lebu> iceroot: i just installed ubuntu server, and i am trying to setup ics, i read the howto on ubuntu site... and i am upto where u put the iptable config in but i am gettin that error
[08:48] <spike> ikonia: I don't have an ubuntu box, I have a mac and I need to make a usb key to install ubuntu on a notebook
[08:48] <ikonia> spike: that doesn't change what I said
[08:49] <otacon> iceroot: There are? I tried the wine installation of the windows drivers but to no avail. Care to link me there?
[08:49] <GirlyGirl> What's with the floodbot?
[08:49] <iceroot> otacon: only google
[08:49] <stuk_gen> ikonia: network manger...net? who? where? the icon the top of the screen....more time.... But...man click the icon SETIPSTATIC (and the icon is very big) the user click and ok start.
[08:49] <lebu> iceroot: do i need to reinstall iptables?
[08:50] <lebu> seems there is a library file missing maybe? (just guessin)
[08:50] <iceroot> lebu: i dont know what is providing that file. apt-file search is showing nothing
[08:50] <fritsch> lebu: libiptcdata0 <- did you install this one?
[08:50] <ikonia> stuk_gen: if you want to ignore the most obvious and clean solution, good luck to you then
[08:50] <iceroot> lebu: are you using iptables directly?
[08:50] <lebu> yeah
[08:51] <fritsch> lebu: you are trying to parse iptc metadata, so the lib is needed
[08:51] <iceroot> lebu: what ubuntu-version? also what is the output of "dpkg -l iptables"
[08:51] <llutz_> lebu: check your scripts for typos, isn't it "contrack" not "contract"?
[08:51] <llutz_> conntrack*
[08:51] <lebu> sudo iptables _A FORWARD -o eth0 -i eth1 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -m conntract --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
[08:51] <ojii> GirlyGirl, still get "MetaMode 1 of Screen 0 has more than two active display devices."
[08:52] <lebu> thats the command i typed
[08:52] <llutz_> lebu: ... -m conntrack ...
[08:52] <lebu> llutz: just typin it off the site thats all :/
[08:52] <lebu> the howto site that is
[08:52] <gebbione> hi all
[08:52] <stuk_gen> ikonia: i don't want ignore your solution, but maybe you haven't try to tell to 'stupid' user how to change the ip. If simply tell to user click icon? or click on network manger static ip?
[08:52] <GirlyGirl> ojii: 1 moment I think that rings a bell
[08:53] <gebbione> my ubuntu is stuck and i dont know what to do to unblock it without a hard reset, can you suggest how to unblock it?
[08:53] <ikonia> stuk_gen: I'm quite sure you can say "click the logo at the top right of the screen, it shows you dhcp/static, select the one you want"
[08:53] <llutz_> lebu: then try to understand what you're typing and that a howto might have typos as well
[08:54] <lebu> okie
[08:54] <stuk_gen> ikonia: what logo?
[08:54] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Sorry I don't use Gnome / unity so I don't know the tool names but in configuration or something thing for display ... open it
[08:54] <ikonia> the network manager logo
[08:54] <stuk_gen> ikonia: what is it? argh is too little the icon i'm on eeepc
[08:54] <ojii> GirlyGirl, you mean the nvidia thing or the gnome thing?
[08:54] <stuk_gen> ikonia: and i haven't a mouse
[08:54] <ikonia> stuk_gen: the documetn I gave you explains it
[08:55] <GirlyGirl> ojii: gnome thing
[08:55] <stuk_gen> ikonia: yes i understand i only simulate a stupid user
[08:55] <ojii> GirlyGirl, it's called "monitors" :D, and opened it
[08:55] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Does it detect the multiple monitors
[08:55] <ikonia> stuk_gen: stop calling him stupid, Use whatever solution you see fit
[08:55] <gebbione> anyone can help?
[08:56] <stuk_gen> ikonia: but if the only solution is that...ok i try that
[08:56] <ojii> GirlyGirl, well since nvidia tells it there's only one HUGE monitor, it detects that one (I use twinview)
[08:56] <DoverOs> oh wow i'm stupid
[08:57] <gebbione> my ubuntu is stuck and i dont know what to do to unblock it without a hard reset, can you suggest how to unblock it?
[08:57] <DoverOs> i keep forgetting the menu bars jump up to the top panel
[08:57] <stuk_gen> ikonia: ok thank's for help anyway
[08:57] <obengdako> gebbione, i'm not sure what you mean by blocked and not quite sure about the hard reset too maybe some who knows would get to you, or explain further
[08:58] <GirlyGirl> ojii: What is the error nvidia gives again
[08:58] <ojii> GirlyGirl, "MetaMode 1 of Screen 0 has more than two active display devices."
[08:58] <ComradeHaz`> hi all, please can someone tell me where user's crontabs are stored?
[08:59] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Does 2 displays instead of three work?
[08:59] <ojii> GirlyGirl, yes
[08:59] <ojii> GirlyGirl, that's what I do right now, turned off the laptop and just use the 2 externals
[08:59] <gebbione> obengdako:  it is just blocked/stuck, meaning a moment ago i was playing a video on a site and now it loops on 1 second of the video and does not accept any interaction from the mouse, hard reset is from the PC case as compared to a software one
[09:00] <ComradeHaz`> gebnione can you kernel reset?
[09:00] <gebbione> i have no sheel open in front of me
[09:00] <red> I just received a new Work PC and made a USB install stick in Ubuntu, now that I use it to boot the new PC I get to the "Try Ubuntu without installing" and "install ubuntu" menu, I can choose either one but the screen afterwards just turns to black and nothing happends at all
[09:00] <ComradeHaz`> * gebbione
[09:00] <gebbione> just the gnome
[09:01] <gebbione> how do i kernel reset
[09:01] <ikonia> gebbione: you need to reboot to "reset" the kernel
[09:01] <TuxBlackEdo_> has anyone here used ddrescue on a SSD before? my "ddrescue" started out fast but not its going at about 600-800kb/sec... started from 10mb/sec
[09:01] <ComradeHaz`> gebione, google rseiub
[09:01] <TuxBlackEdo_> I can't mount the disk, gives me input/output errors
[09:02] <gebbione> ikonia: of course i can do that but then i will loose current work, i was more looking for something to stop overloading processes to try to recover the GUI
[09:02] <ikonia> gebbione: if you need to reset the kernel (as you stated) the only option is a reboot
[09:03] <ComradeHaz`> gebbione, i believe that to be correct, but you should be able to o a cleanish reboot doing what i said
[09:03] <DoverOs> can you save the stuff if you go into tty1?
[09:03] <GirlyGirl> ojii: It is not possible to have three displays under twinview
[09:04] <ojii> GirlyGirl, :(
[09:04] <gebbione> ikonia:  i dont want to do that, i asked for a way not to do that, like in windows you can open the task manager ... maybe in ubuntu something similar?
[09:05] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Nvidia settings detects all three displays I believe?
[09:05] <ojii> GirlyGirl, yes
[09:05] <ikonia> gebbione: ok - you can kill and restart certain processes, sure, what do you want to restart
[09:05] <ComradeHaz`> gebbione, can you get to tty1?
[09:05] <gebbione> i dong know how to do that
[09:05] <gvandeweyer> red: do you have the latest ubuntu? I had similar issues with ubuntu LTS (10.04) on a new dell. using latest ubuntu solved the issues
[09:05] <ComradeHaz`> gebbione Ctrl+Alt+1
[09:06] <gebbione> apparently no
[09:06] <ComradeHaz`> then your machine is totally frozen
[09:06] <gebbione> it is stuck
[09:06] <gebbione> yea
[09:06] <ComradeHaz`> more or less BSODed
[09:06] <gebbione> meaning? BSODed?
 gebbione, oh i get it, first of all in my mind it is frozen, sometimes due to a lot of swapping, how big is your ram and swap space ,and how many processes are  running
 gebbione, and if you are willing to lose data ,you can do the hard reset
 gebbione, i've had that before
 gebbione, sometimes waiting a while for it to settle that is your harddrive indicator light to stop blinking repeatedly would help too
[09:07] <red> gvandeweyer: trying to install 11.04
[09:07] <ComradeHaz`> meaning it has crashed unrecoverably
[09:07] <red> gvandeweyer: im recreating the usb now, redownloaded, maybe something was fubar in the image dunno
[09:07] <GirlyGirl> ojii: Can't you use xinerama
[09:07] <gebbione> obengdako: i have 12Gb of ram
[09:07] <red> and i created the stick in 11.04 as well
[09:07] <ojii> GirlyGirl, don't see that option
[09:07] <gebbione> not sure about swap
[09:08] <ojii> GirlyGirl, only "disable", "twinview" and "separate x screen"
[09:08] <obengdako> gebbione, wow 12GB, no swap?
[09:08] <ComradeHaz`> gebbione, it takes next to no resources to switch to tty1. it has crashed.
[09:08] <gebbione> i guess i let it choose how much swap to allocate at set up
[09:09] <ojii> GirlyGirl, reading on wiki about xinerama it doesn't sound that nice "There is currently no way to dynamically add or remove physical screens, and there is no way to change the resolution of a screen.", this is a laptop. at work i have 3 screens at home just my laptop
[09:09] <gebbione> ComradeHaz`:  any suggestion on how i can troubleshoot? i had run memtest, seatools (for hardisks failures) and other stuff like mprime but they are all fine
[09:09] <obengdako> gebbione, well switching to tty1 and runnig top or sth like that to see which apps are sleeping or not responsive might help if not totally frozen
[09:09] <gebbione> no errors reported
[09:09] <ComradeHaz`> gebbione, rseiub for now.
[09:09] <obengdako> gebbione, sometimes i take it as a flaw in the system
[09:09] <ojii> GirlyGirl, also reading on their website "As of 2007-09-20, this project is no longer under active development." is not encouraging....
[09:09] <ComradeHaz`> then look at system logs once rebooted
[09:10] <gebbione> obengdako:  it happens too often
[09:10] <gebbione> like everyday
[09:10] <gvandeweyer> red: hmm, i had issues with X (videocard). if it goes blank right after grub, i can't help :-)
[09:10] <obengdako> gebbione, i use to have that experience when i newly switched to 64bit and was also watching movies or music, i think it had to do with some libraries or packages
[09:11] <red> ok
[09:11] <obengdako> gebbione, first ensure you've updated appropriately too
[09:11] <red> hope I resolve this in 4 hours, otherwise I have to switch to working in Windows :(
[09:11] <gebbione> obengdako: i always do those
[09:12] <K350> what privelegies should /var/log/messages have?
[09:12] <obengdako> gebbione, then try to note what application(s) cause the hang and file a bug, with app details and machine details
[09:12] <gvandeweyer> red: windows + virtual machine with ubuntu... I have the other way around running nicely, vmplayer running detached in the background with remote desktop to the windows if needed
[09:12] <llutz_> K350: 640 syslog:adm
[09:12] <obengdako> gebbione, are you using 64bit or 32bit with PAE?
[09:15] <ComradeHaz`> hi all, please can someone tell me where user's crontabs are stored?
[09:15] <K350> llutz_: Thanks a lot!:-)
[09:15] <llutz_>  /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ ComradeHaz`
[09:16] <gvandeweyer> ComradeHaz`: you should edit them with 'crontab -e'
[09:16] <ComradeHaz`> thanks llutz
[09:16] <ComradeHaz`> Aue, I know, need to look at one on a dead (files recovered) system
[09:16] <gvandeweyer> ComradeHaz`: instead of direct manipulation...
[09:16] <ComradeHaz`> *Aye
[09:17] <K350> llutz_: btw. ls doesn't show the privelegies in numbers - the way I chmod - is there a way to see the privelegies the same way as when I chmod - in numbers?
[09:17] <llutz_> K350: "stat file"
[09:18] <melvincv> I encrypted a file using 'Passwords and Encryption keys' into a .pgp file. I tried to open the file in the other computer. It says I do not have the key. I imported the public key, but the same result. How do I decrypt the file?
[09:18] <red> If anyone has any suggestions how to resolve a black screen (and nothing happening) after selecting "Install Ubuntu" or "Try Ubuntu without installing", I'm welcome to any help. Trying to install 64bit 11.04 on new work computer (Lenovo Thinkcentre edge)
[09:21] <ComradeHaz`> red, I seem to recall that issue. Try noapic, nolapic type options. I can't remember if that helped
[09:21] <obengdako> i'm back!
[09:21] <gebbione> nice i just got a black screen with a corrupt page table message triggered by update-manager
[09:21] <gebbione> nice
[09:21] <Ben64> red: you could try installing with the alternate cd, then fix whatever issue it is once installed
[09:21] <K350> llutz_: Oh, great tool, thanks a lot - again. Really appruciated!
[09:22] <ComradeHaz`> red, I think I had to get either a newer (some kind of daily test build) or older cd)
[09:31] <burg> hello. even if i have internet connection (wired, and logged in via pppoe), network manager sais that wired network is disconnected and no internet access. and because of that, some applications (pidgin, ubuntu one) won`t login because they "see" no network/internet connection. how can i fix that?
[09:37] <Alan502> Libreoffice is not stable at all, how can i replace it with openoffice?
[09:37] <Alan502> !openoffice
[09:38] <iceroot> Alan502: openoffice is no longer supported
[09:38] <Alan502> iceroot: not even the older version?
[09:38] <iceroot> Alan502: atm there are no security-updates/normal updates
[09:38] <Alan502> iceroot: it has become very annoying to use libreoffice with it crashing every 5 minutes
[09:39] <iceroot> Alan502: what ubuntu-version? have you created a bug?
[09:39] <Alan502> iceroot: do you know if libreoffice has a safe mode or something?
[09:39] <Alan502> iceroot: it is 11.04
[09:40] <Alan502> iceroot: the whole OS freezes when I try to paste something from calc to writer
[09:40] <Alan502> iceroot: it even crashed when i tried to make a snapshot and then paste it on writer
[09:40] <iceroot> Alan502: hm never had issues like that
[09:40] <Alan502> iceroot: the curious thing is that ubuntu itself frezes, i cannot move the mouse
[09:40] <Alan502> iceroot: i've tried to choose ubuntu safe mode from the login screen but it didn't help
[09:41] <iceroot> Alan502: sure its a libreoffice-bug?
[09:41] <Alan502> iceroot: i'm not sure, tbh, is there I way i can "test" to be sure?
[09:41] <Alan502> iceroot: but it is highly probable since
[09:41] <gamer1990> which version of libreoffice ?
[09:41] <Alan502> iceroot: i've been using the computer from more than half an hour now, without libreoffice open, and ubuntu hasn't crashed
[09:42] <Alan502> gamer1990: the lastest one on the repositories
[09:42] <vschwar> c ki?
[09:42] <vschwar> y a quelqu'un.
[09:42] <vschwar> ?
[09:43] <gamer1990> Alan502 you can try to install the prebuild debs directly from libreoffice, remove at first the currently libreoffice-version
[09:43] <Alan502> gamer1990: but then I will not be able to update libreeoffice automatically, right=
[09:44] <Alan502> gamer1990: are the prebuilds later versions than the ones on the repositories?
[09:52] <sevenearths> how can I open a terminal and run a command upon login?
[09:56] <gamer1990> Too late... he is gone :/
[10:00] <xinyi> what is fibmap?
[10:01] <iceroot> xinyi: what should it be? a package? a script? where do you get the name from?
[10:01] <xinyi> i got an error whilist shuting down
[10:02] <xinyi> it shows like this: FIBMAP: Invalide argument
[10:04] <alkisg> Hi, if I have an interactive traceboard plugged in, ck-list-sessions says my session is "active = FALSE", and that results in broken ACLs for /dev/*.
[10:04] <alkisg> How can I tell udev that my session is "active = TRUE"?
[10:06] <iMadper> how could I deal with "Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?"
[10:06] <sascha-thorsten> does anyone know a tool which tests the graphic cards memory or the graphic card generally?
[10:08] <jrib> iMadper: start by checking that DISPLAY is set properly
[10:09] <iMadper> jrgp, I typed export DISPLAY=":0.0"   but it still error
[10:09] <iMadper> sascha-thorsten, Urban Terror??
[10:09] <sascha-thorsten> iMadper: what do you mean?
[10:09] <jrib> iMadper: continue by providing context to people in support channel :)
[10:10] <iMadper> sascha-thorsten, the software to test your graphic card
[10:11] <sascha-thorsten> i don't see this software in the repos and i don't habe any games that would run un the machine
[10:11] <iMadper> jrgp, what do you mean about support channel?
[10:12] <jrib> iMadper: what are you doing to get the error?
[10:13] <iMadper> jrgp, When i open a software in a terminal. the software is used to connect my school's net
[10:13] <iMadper> jrgp, It maybe write by gtk and i used kde4
[10:14] <sascha-thorsten> iMadper: the machine is an netbook which can not run games which i have there
[10:14] <jrib> iMadper: I'm "jrib" not "jrgp" by the way
[10:14] <iMadper> jrib, sorry~
[10:14] <jrib> iMadper: how did you install the software?
[10:14] <iMadper> jrib, use a script named install.sh。。。。
[10:15] <systemparadox> morning all. On an nvidia card with monitors of different sizes the mouse is not permitted to enter the invisible area. However, I'm now using a machine with an ATI card and it will let the mouse go into the invisible area. Does anyone know if it's possible to stop this behaviour?
[10:15] <jrib> iMadper: :/  you probably need to install gtk then.  Check software's documentation
[10:15] <iMadper> jrib, but it works well two hours ago。。。
[10:15] <jrib> iMadper: what changed in the past 2 hours?
[10:16] <iMadper> jrib, I just compiled a openfetion,
[10:16] <iMadper> jrib, you konw, before compling , i must install some software like libopenssl-dev
[10:17] <iMadper> jrib, and some other package
[10:17] <E3D3> Hi, I messed somehow (only) one of my USB-sticks. Nautilus, fdisk or gparted don't show it anymore. I have ntfs-drivers & -config and also tried settings in gconf-editor/nautilus but without good result. Who can help me ?
[10:17] <iMadper> jrib, should I remove what I installed?
[10:18] <jrib> iMadper: what's the name of the software you are having trouble with?
[10:18] <iMadper> jrib, iNodeClient
[10:18] <jrib> iMadper: and what's the *full* output when you attempt to execute it?
[10:18] <kekko> -Acdtrux
[10:19] <iMadper> jrib, I don't think you know the software, it only used in China College
[10:19] <jrib> iMadper: it's fine
[10:19] <iMadper> jrib, wait a minute
[10:19] <kekko> !list
[10:19] <kekko> !list
[10:20] <iMadper> jrib, it said "No protocol specified"
[10:21] <iMadper> jrib, and Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?
[10:21] <jrib> iMadper: it's easier if you just copy and paste the full output to http://paste.ubuntu.ocm.  Also, how are you executing the program?  What command are you running *exactly*?  What does « whoami » return in the same terminal where you are attempting to run the program?
[10:22] <jrib> iMadper: if you just copy and paste everything you see (including the prompt) in your terminal, you will have answered all of these questions :)
[10:22] <iMadper> jrib, my computer can't connect the internet without that software
[10:22] <jrib> iMadper: ok, then you must type
[10:22] <iMadper> jrib, i'll try
[10:23] <iMadper> jrib, when i type in whoami, it said "madper", and i think it's right~
[10:24] <jrib> iMadper: how are you executing the program?  What command are you running *exactly*?
[10:25] <iMadper> jrib, I use this " sudo /usr/iNode/iNodeClient     "
[10:25] <iMadper> jrib, I have use this way half a year   :D
[10:25] <iMadper> jrib, It works well before today
[10:25] <sascha-thorsten> cya
[10:26] <javier__> hello, my audio is not working, I installed lubuntu from a minimal install
[10:27] <jrib> iMadper: if you do « sudo -i » does /usr/iNode/iNodeClient work then?  Is DISPLAY still set properly?
[10:27] <lunitik> javier__: dpkg -l linux-sound-base | ^ii <-- return anything? lspci | grep -i audio <-- what does this say? lsmod | grep snd <-- what does this say?
[10:28] <iMadper> jrib, I'll try now, wait a minute please~
[10:28] <lunitik> javier__: that should be grep ^ii sorry
[10:28] <iMadper> jrib, Hi, my brother! it works!
[10:29] <jrib> iMadper: that's kind of strange.  sudo by default shouldn't be resetting DISPLAY.  If you close terminal and open new one does your previous way work then?
[10:29] <javier__> lunitik, I supposed, it is version 1.0.22.1
[10:30] <javier__> lunitik, 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[10:30] <iMadper> jrib, I have rebooted my computer , and it still doesn't word
[10:30] <iMadper> jrib, still doesn't word
[10:30] <iMadper> ....
[10:30] <iMadper> .....
[10:30] <iMadper> jrib, sorry for the wrong type。。。
[10:30] <lunitik> javier__: and the lsmod command?
[10:31] <javier__> lunitik, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/703309/
[10:31] <mogaj> While loggin am getting "install problem! The configuration defaults for gnome power manager have not been installed correctly " how to resolve this ??
[10:31] <lunitik> javier__: lsof /dev/snd/* <-- does this return anything?
[10:32] <javier__> lunitik, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/703311/
[10:33] <iMadper> jrib, should I remove the sudo and re-install it ?
[10:34] <lunitik> javier__: stupid one: alsamixer <-- is PCM turned up?
[10:34] <javier__> lunitik, now yes
[10:35] <javier__> but still not working
[10:36] <lunitik> javier__: it is a very old sound card from memory, why are you not using an audio mixer out of curiosity? I think one of the outputs from lsof is occupying the soundcard for itself
[10:37] <javier__> lunitik, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=350a137d5216a0cd88cd8847527a4ad18f7798ed
[10:37] <lunitik> javier__: you have never heard sound from this box, right?
[10:37] <javier__> lunitik, right
[10:39] <lunitik> javier__: you are sure speakers are plugged in correctly, and that something isn't muted in the panel?
[10:39] <lunitik> javier__: if so, I would suggest setting up dmix on the box if you don't want something like pulseaudio
[10:40] <javier__> lunitik, hahah no, its me the only one plugged in,
[10:40] <javier__> lunitik, I don't care about which module use
[10:40] <javier__> lunitik, just want to make it work
[10:40] <Noiano> did anyone managed to install flashplayer 11 from canonical's partner repos?
[10:40] <javier__> I trust you
[10:41] <nmvictor> I have a scrip in /etc/init.d, is it possible to check at which run level the script runs and possibly make it run on a higher runleve like 2.
[10:41] <javier__> Noiano, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[10:41] <jrib> iMadper: no you should not reinstall sudo.  Maybe look at env
[10:41] <Noiano> javier__, it's version 10.3
[10:42] <iMadper> jrib, ok, I'll use my computer back~
[10:42] <lunitik> javier__: dpkg -l pulse* | grep ^ii
[10:42] <javier__> lunitik, nothing
[10:43] <jrib> nmvictor: there are a few things wrong with your question.  The answer is "yes, use sysv-rc-conf", but ubuntu now uses upstart so you should stop thinking in terms of runlevels.  Also, ubuntu always boots to runlevel 2 by default
[10:43] <javier__> but I have alsa
[10:44] <imadper> jrib: Hi~ How should I check my env?
[10:44] <javier__> imadper, env
[10:44] <jrib> imadper: you can type « env »
[10:44] <imadper> thankS!
[10:45] <lunitik> javier__: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[10:46] <glebihan> jrib, there still are runlevels with upstart
[10:46] <imadper> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/98570
[10:47] <lunitik> javier__: just restarting should give you sound then, cuz it'll be started at boot I believe... after, locate *.ogg .. then play one through aplay to see if there is sound now... I think lxpanel is hogging your audio atm
[10:47] <javier__> lunitik, and now? I reboot or smthg? because sudo alsa reload doesnt work
[10:47] <javier__> oki
[10:47] <imadper> jrib: there is another thing. My hotkey doesn't work, such as ALT + F2
[10:47] <javier__> so I m coming back if doesn't work, thank you very much
[10:47] <jrib> glebihan: yes, I only discouraged thinking in terms of them :)
[10:48] <lunitik> javier__: maybe before you sign in, try those at a terminal after reboot
[10:48] <javier__> by the way lunitik, here you have the script for that I runned for all that info wget http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh -O alsa-info.sh && bash alsa-info.sh
[10:48] <glebihan> jrib, ok then I agree with you
[10:48] <lunitik> javier__: I recognize all the commands output  ;)
[10:48] <unclet0m> HI GUYS! I was wondering if its 'safe' to use virtualbox in a machine that is already dual booting
[10:49] <imadper> jrib: it works again。。
[10:49] <lunitik> unclet0m: why wouldn't it be?
[10:49] <javier__> lunitik, I meant if you wanted to have it...
[10:49] <javier__> bye!
[10:49] <djangoobie> hey guys I'm using Ubuntu as a VM in VirtualBox. I recently updated VirtualBox and now I can't boot the machine anymore. The error has to do with udev-fallback-graphics. Is there any way I can login to the machine without an UI so I can install the new VirtualBox Guest Additions?
[10:49] <jrib> imadper: ok
[10:49] <imadper> jrib: DISPLAY=:0   is that right?
[10:49] <unclet0m> i'm a noob just wanted to know if it would mess something up or not thank you :D
[10:49] <jrib> imadper: should be
[10:51] <imadper> jrib: I can't open other gtk program such as pidgin if i use sudo
[10:51] <nmvictor> jrib: Sorry abt what you find wrong in my question, I'll come again in detail. I have Acer Aspire 5734z. It has issues with the backligh upon start up but using the 'setpci' command, I am able to write to the correct hardware address and get the backlight on.So I place the command in a script, shoved it under init.d and did update-rc.d on the script. However, seems like the bightness comes in later almost around when the login screen, so I want to sort of pr
[10:51] <unclet0m> also i have another question, recently i tried to install ubuntu on an old vista machine, idk why but its always 'zoomed' in
[10:51] <imadper> jrib: but it works well without sudo
[10:51] <jrib> imadper: you shouldn't be using sudo for those programs
[10:52] <imadper> jrib: yes, i know. I just want to know if is sudo's fault
[10:52] <lunitik> unclet0m: search google for "virtual resolution" if, when moving the mouse to the corner it scrolls to that part of the screen
[10:52] <Layke> Does anyone use putty?
[10:53] <Layke> How can I copy somethign from the terminal?
[10:53] <gry> yes
[10:53] <jrib> imadper: you should be using gksudo when you /need/ to open a graphical program with root privileges
[10:53] <gry> Layke: use left top icon menu
[10:53] <Layke> gry: I don't have anything up there. That's what I would do on Windows.
[10:53] <Layke> I would highlight it and press enter.
[10:53] <lunitik> Layke: simply select the text, then middle or double click the mouse wherever you with to paste it
[10:53] <gry> Layke: oh putty on linux. tried openssh client yet instead?
[10:54] <Layke> gry No I haven't I'll look.
[10:54] <jrib> nmvictor: in that case, you need to change the 2 digit sequence you passed to update-rc.d (referred to as "NN" in the man page).  That determines the order in which scripts are executed
[10:54] <gry> Layke: or try selecting to 'copy' and middle clicking to 'paste'
[10:54] <Layke> I can't stand how the font looks in putty on linux.
[10:54] <Layke> I'll try the middle button.
[10:54] <imadper> jrib: but, i used sudo to open the software more than half a year 。。。
[10:54] <Layke> Nope.
[10:54] <gry> Layke: "sudo apt-get install ssh" I think - it is easier to use than putty for some
[10:54] <lunitik> Layke: I would suggest trying a real ssh client then  ;)
[10:54] <jrib> imadper: gksudo plays more nicely with graphical applications, I don't know details
[10:54] <Layke> It copies it locally (as in within the terminal) but I want to copy the ssh key from my server to my lcoal system
[10:55] <imadper> jrib: OK, thank you very very very much~  :D
[10:55] <lunitik> Layke: see, usually you'd just paste with middle click in the terminal over from SSH
[10:55] <lunitik> (or next tab over)
[10:55] <gry> Layke: sorry, it's named "openssh-client", not "ssh".
[10:55] <DustyMonk> i use ssh, what's the prob?
[10:56] <gry> no idea I guess
[10:56] <Layke> How would I use the ssh client? I need to connect to myhost.com but I need to use the key at ~/.ssh/base.ppk
[10:56] <jrib> gry: yeah, "ssh" should pull in client and server
[10:56] <gry> oh! 'ssh' metapackage insludes an ssh server too.
[10:56] <gry> you beat me to it. was just reading the search results from apt-cache.
[10:56] <Layke> I would specify this in the Putty window.
[10:56] <lunitik> DustyMonk: Layke is using putty and it won't copy things to the clipboard for him, so we are getting him to use ssh itself instead because then it'll work  :)
[10:57] <DustyMonk> Layke: you know how to work with a Terminal?
[10:57] <gry> some users probably don't need an ssh server though (it depends on what they actually use and having an extra server start up there is not a very good idea if you don't use it)
[10:57] <lunitik> Layke: actually, ssh should use that key by default I believe
[10:57] <Layke> DustyMonk,  Yeah
[10:58] <nmvictor> jrib: thanks
[10:58] <DustyMonk> Layke: the basic syntax is ssh [user]@[ip-address] - but what do you want to do?
[10:59] <Layke> Let me try myself and I'll come back if I fail to connect.
[11:01] <Layke> I have my .ppk file which I specify with ssh using -i but it asks me for a password. But the key doesn't have a password attached to it.
[11:01] <ikonia> Layke: ppk is a putty format normally
[11:02] <Layke> I have the .pem file.
[11:02] <Layke> Is that suitable?
[11:02] <ikonia> if that's your private key, sure
[11:02] <Haegin> why is so much stuff out of date on ubuntu? I know the distro I'm using is now 6 months old but the postgres version it has  is over a year out of date
[11:02] <ikonia> Haegin: do you need a newer version ?
[11:02] <The_Phoenix> Boring life nya. Is there's an Ubuntu version of XDA?
[11:03] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: what ?
[11:03] <DustyMonk> what is XDA?
[11:03] <The_Phoenix> ikonia, modding Ubuntu.
[11:03] <Haegin> ikonia: well I'm having problems now I'm trying to deploy to an ubuntu production vm from my fedora development machine
[11:03] <The_Phoenix> DustyMonk, XDA is a forum/site dedicated to Android modding.
[11:04] <DustyMonk> The_Phoenix: sounds offtopic to me
[11:04] <ikonia> Haegin: wju os tjat anything to do with postgress
[11:05] <Layke> I got it working. I had to specify which user to connect to.
[11:05] <The_Phoenix> DustyMonk, I was asking if there's a site/forum dedicated for modding Ubuntu.
[11:05] <lunitik> Haegin: enable backports updates if you want newer stuff - in "software sources" simply select it from the updates tab... or add a line which has natty-backports instead of natty-updates - if that doesn't have postgres, maybe look for a PPA or update to oneiric (since it is due out in like 10 days it is basically finished)
[11:05] <Layke> When I did ssh -2 user@host -i ~/.ssh/base.pem it connected
[11:05] <ikonia> The_Phoenix: "modding" what do you mean
[11:05] <imadper> jrib: Hi, I try to use "export DISDPLAY=localhost:0.0"  and then it works well
[11:05] <Layke> Without the user@ it didn't.
[11:06] <ikonia> Layke: is your current user and the remote username the same
[11:06] <Layke> No.
[11:06] <ikonia> Layke: that's why then
[11:06] <Haegin> lunitik: yeah, I already checked for PPAs and they don't seem to be available
[11:06] <The_Phoenix> ikonia, adding features not available by default, increasing performance by disabling unwanted services/components, etc etc
[11:06] <Layke> local : layke remote: ubuntu :)
[11:07] <Layke> Now I guess I have to memorise the connection crednetials. Any short cuts GUI for connecting quickly?
[11:08] <lunitik> Layke: you can create an alias which contains the command as so: 'alias weeee="ssh -2 user@host -i ~/.ssh/base.pem" '
[11:08] <Layke> How long will the alias last?
[11:08] <snippet> Layke: until you remove it from your .bashrc?
[11:08] <lunitik> Layke: it is permanent if you throw it into your ~/.bashrc
[11:09] <Layke> Which it will do by default? (Add it to my .bashrc that it?
[11:09] <lunitik> Layke: otherwise it will only last for that session, so I prolly should have told you that
[11:09] <lunitik> Layke: no... sorry
[11:09] <Layke> I don't know much about Ubuntu as you can tell :)
[11:09] <jrib> Layke: you should consider use ~/.ssh/config to manage options for your different connections
[11:09] <lunitik> Layke: $EDITOR ~/.bashrc and throw it in at the bottom
[11:09] <jrib> s/use/using
[11:09] <Layke> Cheers lunitik
[11:09] <jrib> imadper: interesting.  I don't know why that would happen
[11:10] <imadper> jrib: me too~ btw, thanks for your help
[11:10]  * lunitik likes aliases, require less thinking
[11:11] <Layke> lol One problem is that it's hard to tell when I have multiple terminal windows open wether the command is on the server or local.
[11:11] <Layke> Wouldn't like to get it wrong!
[11:11] <jrib> Layke: I change the color of my bash prompts
[11:11] <Layke> Manually jrib  or can it be autoamted?
[11:11] <lunitik> Layke: manually automated  ;)
[11:11] <jrib> yes lunitik said it well... :)
[11:14] <Layke> Awesome. Got it working. :)
[11:14] <Layke> Cheers for help
[11:14] <lunitik> Layke: did you throw it into .bashrc or .bash_profile so it stays that way?
[11:15] <Layke> Neither just yet. I just got my copy from temrinal working :P One step at a time. Will add to my local .bashrc now though.
[11:19] <Layke> How do I get my alias to work ? Do I have to restart something to get .bashrc to recognise the alias?
[11:21] <snippet> Layke: Do source .bashrc
[11:21] <snippet> then open a new terminal and test it out
[11:23] <Layke> works
[11:23] <Layke> Much easier than opening putty now :)
[11:24] <gry> Layke :)
[11:26] <Danielpk> any tip to fix the speed to list directories with NFS?
[11:29] <deanc[work]> I installed lesscss.org ages ago when it was still a ruby gem. now it uses node. i uninstalled the gem using sudo gem uninstall less but now when i type lessc <anything> it says the executable doesnt exist where the gem executable used to be. My question is, why is the lessc command pointing to a file that doesn't exist and where can i fix this
[11:32] <Guest56548> help my kubuntu 10.04 no sound
[11:32] <snippet> Guest56548: run lsmod
[11:33] <snippet> run lsmod | grep snd
[11:33] <Guest56548> my kubuntu 10.04 cannot playing mp3
[11:33] <gry> Guest56548: what hardware do you have? did it work before?
[11:33] <gry> Guest56548: run what snippet says, as well, if you like
[11:33] <livcd> so
[11:33] <iceroot> !mp3 | Guest56548
[11:33] <Guest56548> how to see my hardware im newbie
[11:33] <snippet> Yea. That command I gave you will pretty much tell you whether any sound modules have been loaded.
[11:33] <Guest56548> ok
[11:33] <livcd> when we are going to replace unity ?
[11:33] <gry> Guest56548: start with reading 13:33:01 <snippet> run lsmod | grep snd
[11:34] <snippet> Open up a terminal and type the command I gave: lsmod | grep snd
[11:34] <kodi> hi, i have a problem im using ubuntu 11.04 i want to download addons for firefox. i type in sudo apt-get install firebug but i always get an error."E: Unable to locate package firebug". Can someone help me?
[11:35] <iceroot> livcd: you can replace unity at any point with a gui you like more
[11:35] <snippet> kodi: you need to install these addons within the browser. Search for the addon on Google, click it and Firefox will ask if you want to install it
[11:35] <kodi> Oh ok thanks will do
[11:35] <mc_teo> kodi, open firefox, tools -> addons
[11:35] <Guest56548> this http://pastebin.com/0pLxB0A7
[11:35] <iceroot> kodi: firefox-addons are downloaded from mozilla, not with apt-get
[11:35] <kodi> thank you
[11:35] <gry> hehe
[11:36] <Guest56548> lsmod | grep snd >> http://pastebin.com/0pLxB0A7
[11:36] <curiousx> kodi: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=firebug&cat=all
[11:36] <kodi> thanks curiousx
[11:36] <curiousx> your welcome =)
[11:36] <mc_teo> anyone wants to help me getting my nvidia card working?
[11:37] <snippet> Guest56548: Well, it looks like you do have the sound modules working. Did you check the volume?
[11:37] <snippet> mc_teo: What's wrong?
[11:37] <Guest56548> the volume is full
[11:37] <Guest56548> when i playing mp3 cannot play
[11:37] <livcd> iceroot: i would like to have normal official gui which is not suited for tablets
[11:37] <snippet> Guest56548: open alsamixer and make sure that it is in there as well (you need to run alsamixer in terminal)
[11:38] <Guest56548> need phono backend.... i dont understand
[11:38] <Guest56548> how to alsamixer in terminal???
[11:38] <gry> use 1 question mark, not 3
[11:38] <histo> !nvidia | mc_teo
[11:38] <histo> Guest56548: just type alsamixer in a terminal
[11:38] <snippet> Guest56548: Okay. First, do you hear any sound at all aside from mp3's?
[11:38] <Guest56548> ok histo
[11:39] <histo> Guest56548: if you have a Desktop system I would use sound properties though
[11:40] <Guest56548> ok histo wait
[11:40] <mc_teo> im using optimus
[11:41] <iceroot> livcd: kde, lxde, xfce  are the officiall ones, there are many more
[11:41] <iceroot> livcd: choose what you like most
[11:41] <mc_teo> nvidia geforce gfx 525M
[11:41] <livcd> iceroot: and they suxx
[11:41] <snippet> mc_teo: What's the issue that you're having?
[11:41] <iceroot> livcd: your opinion
[11:42] <farrukhjon> Hi all hove remove hot key in ubuntu
[11:42] <iceroot> livcd: but i like lxde very much
[11:42] <gry> farrukhjon: what do you mean by 'hot key'?
[11:42] <mc_teo> snippet: the intel card is connected to the screen
[11:42] <histo> livcd: you can install a comand line system and build whatever you want.
[11:43] <mc_teo> and i cant see to turn on the nvidia card
[11:43] <farrukhjon> gry:System.pref->Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:43] <mc_teo> i tried using bumblebee
[11:43] <gry> farrukhjon: can you remove it there, then?
[11:44] <snippet> mc_teo: interesting. Did you install the drivers? You're using a sandy bridge processor, I'm assuming
[11:44] <johnjohn101> so with the global menu in unity.  is there a way to keep the global menu but not have the menubar options hide after you move the move off?
[11:44] <farrukhjon> gry:  how disable key fro example Volume mute
[11:45] <mc_teo> snippet: yeah, dell 15z
[11:45] <gry> farrukhjon: select it, click remove ?
[11:46] <mc_teo> snippet: the proprietary driver doesnt seem to work
[11:46] <farrukhjon> gry: but remove button disabled
[11:47] <gry> farrukhjon: ah, dunno, then, sorry
[11:47] <Lerrick> helo
[11:47] <Lerrick> is there any guide how can i use terminal as bittorrent?
[11:47] <snippet> mc_teo: do this in terminal: echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[11:47] <farrukhjon> gry: why it's disabled ??
[11:48] <jrib> Lerrick: try rtorrent or btdownloadcurses
[11:48] <Lerrick> how can i do that
[11:48] <snippet> as root, of course.
[11:48] <Lerrick> can you please guide me kinda begginer
[11:48] <jrib> Lerrick: they are programs, install them and run them :)
[11:48] <jrib> !software | Lerrick
[11:48] <snippet> mc_teo: So you'll be doing: sudo echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[11:48] <Lerrick> well can i use terminal not a program?
[11:48] <mc_teo> snippet: vgaswitcheroo isnt present
[11:48] <farrukhjon> how enable remove button from Keyboard Shortcuts ?
[11:48] <Lerrick> my laptop is a bit slow
[11:49] <snippet> mc_teo: That's fairly weird...
[11:49] <mc_teo> not if i dont have it installed
[11:50] <wis3voyag3r> Hi everyone, I'm ubuntu 11.04 user. Does anyone can tell me, how do I know my RAM size on ubuntu?
[11:50] <snippet> Did you just install Linux on that machine?
[11:51] <mc_teo> well like 5 weeks ago
[11:52] <snippet> mc_teo: Give me one minute.
[11:53] <Lerrick> pls help me
[11:53] <gry> please ask
[11:53] <Lerrick> how can i use terminal to download torrent
[11:53] <Lerrick> i dont want to use any program i want to use terminal
[11:53] <mc_teo> sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[11:54] <mc_teo> rtorrent
[11:54] <mc_teo> done
[11:54] <jrib> Lerrick: terminal runs programs...
[11:54] <Lerrick> and then
[11:54] <Lerrick> done
[11:54] <Lerrick> installed rtorrent
[11:54] <mc_teo> jrib: i imagine he means no gui
[11:55] <mc_teo> Lerrick: start it with "rtorrent"
[11:55] <Lerrick> done
[11:55] <Lerrick> what next mc_teo
[11:55] <snippet> Lerrick: now do man rtorrent
[11:55] <mc_teo> theres like commands
[11:55] <mc_teo> its like enter to open a torrent
[11:56] <Lerrick> it says could not read resource file
[11:56] <Lerrick> rtorrent
[11:56] <snippet> mc_teo: Hrm. There seems to be quite a few issues with this laptop right now. I'm trying to do some research to see why you're not able to run echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[11:57] <mc_teo> Lerrick: like google the man page for rtorrent
[11:57] <mc_teo> dont expect people to answer your every question
[11:57] <Lerrick> when i hit enter
[11:58] <Lerrick> it says <load>
[11:58] <mc_teo> snippet: i think its something to do with what being made for asus
[11:58] <Lerrick> what should i do
[11:58] <mc_teo> google it
[11:58] <snippet> Lerrick: I have no issues helping people, dude. However, you need to learn to research your questions, too.
[11:58] <snippet> You won't learn anything with people spoon-feeding you all the answers
[11:58] <mc_teo> Lerrick: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[11:59] <snippet> mc_teo: What do you mean? The graphics integration?
[12:00] <mc_teo> well isnt vgaswitcheroo is a user made kernel module designed for asus?
[12:01] <Edouard1312__> Hey !! :)
[12:01] <Edouard1312__> Il y a quelqu'un ?
[12:02] <surround> hello everybody
[12:02] <snippet> mc_teo: I'm not sure if it's user-made, essentially.
[12:02] <snippet> But, it might not even be enabled on your syste,
[12:02] <epetrel> koukou
[12:03] <epetrel> CMOA
[12:03] <snippet> mc_teo: do: grep -i switcheroo /boot/config-2.6.*
[12:03] <dsollie> y0
[12:03] <epetrel> yop
[12:03] <ymottro> hehe
[12:03] <surround> I want to know about bluetooth softwarein linux  which support all profiles like DUN , Bluetooth Headset profile etc,
[12:03] <snippet> surround: then Google, my good man, is your friend. ;)
[12:04] <surround> Native bluetooth software only support file transfer
[12:04] <dsollie> HELLO
[12:04] <epetrel> HELLO
[12:04] <surround> DUN profile not working very well with Linux
[12:04] <dr_willis> hmm. ive used bluetooth headset on ubuntu
[12:04] <snippet> mc_teo: vga_switcheroo will be active once the kernel's booted with either "modeset=1" kernel option, and/or "nomodeset" option being absent
[12:04] <snippet> dsollie: chill with the caps, dude.
[12:05] <dsollie> what?
[12:05] <surround> dr_willis: did u used Blueman
[12:05] <snippet> dsollie: Much better ;)
[12:05] <mc_teo> "/boot/config-2.6.38-11-generic:CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO=y"\n"/boot/config-2.6.38-8-generic:CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO=y"
[12:05] <mc_teo> snippet: ^
[12:05] <dr_willis> surround:  i dont remember was last year
[12:05] <snippet> mc_teo: that looks about right, yep.
[12:06] <snippet> mc_teo: did you reboot into that kernel?
[12:07] <mc_teo> snippet: no?
[12:08] <snippet> mc_teo: lol. Do that. It won't load unless you do ;)
[12:09] <mc_teo> "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-11-generic root=UUID=b3849765-f7d8-4254-a19f-891d6a0d062a ro  quiet splash pcie_aspm=force acpi=noirq i915.semaphores=1" is what i've booted
[12:11] <snippet> brb
[12:13] <zhuqian> #list
[12:17] <ramam> oldu mu
[12:21] <tv> hi
[12:21] <dr_willis> hello
[12:21] <tv> is there a way to disable booting into the graphical environment?
[12:22] <pangolin> !nox | tv
[12:22] <tv> rm'ing lightdm from /etc/rc* had no effect
[12:22] <tv> pangolin: thanks
[12:22] <pangolin> tv: also see #ubuntu+1 for help with 11.10
[12:23] <dr_willis> text option is the easiest way
[12:23] <sunson> I'm thinking of running a Ubuntu based 'cyber cafe' / work-station environment but I want to run thin clients and utilize my existing powerful box to host virtual machines. Any recommendations? I'm looking for popular, support, trouble-free hardware + software solution.
[12:24] <sunson> s/support/supported/
[12:24] <dr_willis> virtual machines? why vms?
[12:25] <GirlyGirl> sunson: You mean like terminals to a server?
[12:25] <tv> dr_willis: is there some harder way?^_^ or where are the relevant docs?
[12:26] <vsync_>  /win 22
[12:26] <dr_willis> tv you can disable whatever dm you are using. but text option disables dm and plymouth and the framenuffer at one time
[12:26] <tv> dr_willis: ok, i see--thanks
[12:28] <Prins> Hmm.. Hello, I have been experiencing some problems in Ubuntu 10.04/11.04 and now in Linux Mint (I know that's not your domain, but I understand that Linux Mint is Ubuntu Wannabes ;)). Anyway - My app windows occasionally turn completely white. Everything still works, they're just white. I tried "compiz --replace" and sometimes it'll work, but sometime it doesn't work.. What is causing this error,
[12:28] <Prins> and how do I fix it?
[12:28] <Prins> Thanks in advance.
[12:28] <ucenik14> asd
[12:28] <ucenik14> hey
[12:29] <dr_willis> Prins:  had d
[12:29] <Prins> I'm sorry?
[12:29] <sunson> GirlyGirl: yes. but they must be VMs. LTSP types solutions still require a 'configured' server. I just want to be able to let the workers fully 'administer' their VMs.
[12:29] <ucenik29> kaj si jerry
[12:29] <dr_willis> Prins:  had similer issues. but its fixed in 11.10
[12:29] <sunson> I might just let them carry their VMs back to their home and resume 'work'
[12:30] <Prins> Alright - That sounds good, dr_willis :)
[12:40] <JadedJacob> how can i install a secure ftp server on my ubuntu lamp?
[12:41] <th0r> JadedJacob: apt-get install vsftp?
[12:43] <JadedJacob> if i have openSSH server already running, can i just connect on port 22 with a sftp client?
[12:45] <kevinjeet> hi, i'm on a new machine( i7,GTX 460m) and installed natty... how do i go about confirming that im running on the nvidia card and not sandy?
[12:45] <hwilde> how do I disable automounting of the iphone, but keep automounting of other usb devices?
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> th0r, Isn't it vsftpd?
[12:46] <th0r> Sidewinder1: might be. I am not on ubuntu so can't check for sure.
[12:46] <JadedJacob> yep!
[12:46] <JadedJacob> sorted !
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> th0r, That's OK, I'm not absolutely certain.
[12:47] <th0r> Sidewinder1: should get him close enough either way <smile>
[12:47] <JadedJacob> I've setup a lamp server with ubuntu-server, installed the 'openSSH Server' and now I can connect using WinSCP on port 22
[12:49] <ucenik29> jerryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[12:50] <hwilde> how do I disable automounting of the iphone, but keep automounting of other usb devices?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: you'll need to make udev rules
[12:53] <hwilde> ActionParsnip, ya can you be more specific or maybe is there an example
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: you'll need to tell udev that if it sees the device's ID, to do nothing with it. Other devices will use the default rules
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: may want to look into gvfs, see if that controls it
[12:56] <lonix> If i bg a jobb, can i close the ssh session safely ?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: could possibly add it in fstab to tell the OS not to mount it, not sure if it can be done that way
[12:58] <hwilde> ActionParsnip, it's definitely udev is the answer
[12:59] <Fifemaster> I just got ubuntu 11.04 yesterday and I forgot were to get the drivers for wireless can someone help please?
[12:59] <clad> Hello, I am trying to get ibus to output traditional chinese on pinyin
[13:00] <clad> Usually there is a special menu that is available through right clicking the ibus icon in systray
[13:00] <clad> But somehow with this new unity things right click does the same as left click
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> lonix: try it with something trivial first, like echoing increasing numbers to a file slowly (so disk IO doesnt overwork the system and cause slowness). Ssh in twice and see if the process dies when you logoff.
[13:01] <juliohm> Dear all, why i cannot find some packages during a Ubuntu Customization Session on a Ubuntu 11.04 i686 iso image?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> lonix: my suggestion ;)
[13:02] <juliohm> I can install the packages via apt-get on my host, but when creating a customized iso, the packages are broken
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Clad: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[13:03] <clad> I am running 11.10
[13:03] <clad> (beta 2)
[13:03] <Fifemaster> can someone please tell me where to get and what driver(s) i have to get for ubuntu 11.04 wireless connection
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Julio: did they install clean? Does: sudo apt-get -f install    help
[13:03] <thutomj> Hello, how is this possible. Or how can I implement this? I want to write a shell script that can change the dns alias name on windows 2008 sever from ubuntu. The idea is this, users will only know this url (http://test.example.com) to access their application. I have two servers on different subnets and will be using the test alias to access both at different times without the user noticing a change.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Clad: #ubuntu+1 for anything Oneiric til release day please
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Fifemaster: which wireless chip?
[13:05] <juliohm> ActionParsnip, i can install by `sudo apt-get install libsuitesparse-metis-dev` but this package is unreachable in the console of UCK
[13:06] <snippet> mc_teo: Any progress?
[13:06] <juliohm> i mean, when i try the same command in a UCK console for install the packages, it's not found. "Unable to found libsuitesparse-metis-dev" the msg says.
[13:07] <juliohm> Anyone knows why this is happening?
[13:08] <clad> Oh well I just ran the .py config script that was supposed to be available through right clicking the systray manually. This is really counterintuitive
[13:08] <ubuntu_> martandjudge
[13:09] <clad> I thought you guys were putting special care about chinese language now ?
[13:09] <ubuntu_> martandjudge
[13:10] <Gilos> I'm having problems using rdesktop to an XP box where my mouse pointer is a 2cm block.  I searched google, but not quite sure exactly what to search on.  Anyone know how to resolve this issue?
[13:12] <snippet> Gilos: what version are you using and at what resolution?
[13:13] <xgt001> hello everyone ... please help me to get a video player for ubuntu which doesnt blast fans at full speed no matter how small the video clip is :(
[13:13] <Gilos> snippet, 11.04 and resolution of the rdesktop or ubuntu desktop?
[13:13] <snippet> rdesktop
[13:13] <bastidrazor> xgt001: mplayer
[13:13] <gurifisu> hmm how come ubuntu still uses boost 1.42?
[13:14] <Gilos> did a custom 1600 x 1000 so as not to be full screen
[13:14] <gurifisu> er apt-get can only find boost 1.42*
[13:14] <xgt001> bastidrazor, i am using catalyst driver, so which output should i select so that fans dont churn out?
[13:14] <snippet> Gilos: have you tried another resoultion?
[13:14] <furyoshonen> xgt001 vlc ?
[13:14] <Gilos> I will switch it to full screen to see if matching the resolutions helps
[13:14] <JoeyJoeJo> I just set up a mail server and I'm getting lots of messages from cron (like 1000 over night). How can I turn this off?
[13:15] <xgt001> furyoshonen, i tried vlc but i dono which output to select so that gpu doesnt get loaded up...
[13:15] <juliohm> gurifisu, you can install more recent versions easily. Read Boost getting started guide. ;-)
[13:15] <snippet> Gilos: try that out and then tell me how that goes.
[13:15] <juliohm> Of course this is not the solution, i know. :-)
[13:15] <juliohm> Boost 1.42 is far different from Boost 1.47
[13:16] <wis3voyag3r> Gilos, 1024 X 768 pixels
[13:17] <furyoshonen> xgt001 is their a proprietary driver for your graphics card?
[13:17] <xgt001> furyoshonen, yes i am using proprietary driver
[13:17] <Gilos> okay, interesting, at 1024x768 on my left screen it works fine.  On my right monitor it has same issue.
[13:17] <Gilos> one is dvi other is vga
[13:18] <furyoshonen> xgt001 is your computer clean?
[13:18] <DarkEd__> is there any girl please ??
[13:18] <DarkEd__> :)
[13:18] <xgt001> furyoshonen, yup fresh install
[13:18] <snippet> Gilos: That could be the issue, potentially
[13:18] <snippet> It's a hypothetical guess, of course.
[13:18] <pangolin> DarkEd__: this is not a dating site
[13:18] <furyoshonen> xgt001 no, like actually free of dust
[13:19] <DarkEd__> pangolin I am sorry
[13:19] <Gilos> I could live with it on the left screen, but need higher res that 1024x768. will see what else works.  Thanks.
[13:19] <xgt001> furyoshonen, yes... while having around 40 tabs open in firefox /chrome and doing lots of intense activities my laptop stays calm...only video is a problem
[13:19] <DarkEd__> but i think that there no girl here 'cause u only speak about computer
[13:19] <DarkEd__> \o/
[13:19] <snippet> Gilos: no worries. ;)
[13:20] <pangolin> DarkEd__: this is the Ubuntu support channel, peoples gender do not matter here, we help whoever needs help with Ubuntu.
[13:20] <xgt001> ok guys in SMPlayer i have tons of output ... there is this xv -0 (ATI Radeon AVIVO) something... should i try it out?
[13:20] <DarkEd__> Bla
[13:20] <DarkEd__> bla
[13:20] <DarkEd__> bla
[13:20] <DarkEd__> bla
[13:20] <FloodBot1> DarkEd__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:20] <furyoshonen> xgt001 firefox doesn't use your graphics card as hard as video, it uses memory
[13:21] <furyoshonen> xgt001 what about games/
[13:21] <gsedej_work> hi! where could I suggest translation for "power consumption" applet? (gnome 2.x)
[13:22] <xgt001> furyoshonen, all i want is my laptop to be quiet when i play videos... thats all ... windows does it most of the times..so i am bit worried.. i dont like to use windoze :(
[13:22] <pangolin> gsedej_work: Ubuntu uses launchpad.net for translation
[13:22] <gsedej_work> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager
[13:22] <gsedej_work> pangolin, I can't click translations
[13:22] <Gilos> snippet,  1440x900 works well on the DVI side.  Maybe ATI driver just doesn't like the Analog / Digital at the same time.
[13:23] <pangolin> gsedej_work: you have an account on launchpad?
[13:23] <snippet> Gilos: Could be that. ATI drivers are a bit fishy on Linux, still. Not very consistent. But at least it's somewhat working for you right now.
[13:23] <wis3v0yag3r> does anyone know how to install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04?
[13:23] <livcd> the question is
[13:23] <pangolin> !gnome3 | wis3v0yag3r
[13:23] <livcd> xbox360 or ps3 ?
[13:23] <DustyMonk> wis3v0yag3r: try a PPA
[13:24] <gsedej_work> pangolin, yes I have
[13:24] <pangolin> gsedej_work: perhaps ask in #launchpad ?
[13:24] <wis3v0yag3r> DustyMonk, which PPAs?
[13:24] <pangolin> wis3v0yag3r: the one ubottu just told you about
[13:24] <DustyMonk> wis3v0yag3r: please ubottu 's advice
[13:24] <Gilos> snippet, yep, that's all I can ask for.  Allows me to work in ubuntu and rdp to my work laptop.  It will be nice when Moka5 comes out with a linux host version so I can just run the corporate image in a window.
[13:24] <warddr> gsedej_work, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-power-manager
[13:25] <wis3v0yag3r> DustyMonk, pangolin, thx :D
[13:25] <GirlyGirl> wis3v0yag3r: Or just wait for 11.10 ...
[13:25] <gsedej_work> warddr, thanks
[13:25] <warddr> gsedej_work, thats for version 11.10
[13:26] <GirlyGirl> !away | sysadamin
[13:29] <Guest77332> hello
[13:29] <Guest77332> can anyone help me
[13:29] <hroi> hi
[13:29] <Guest77332> got problem with my usb modem...can anyone help me
[13:29] <Dori922> hey, using the "quota" and "quotatool" options in ubuntu, what do the inodes mean in the "edquota -u username"?
[13:29] <hroi> I have a problem with  running a program through ssh,
[13:29] <wis3v0yag3r> GirlyGirl, thx 4 de' info
[13:30] <warddr> !ask Guest77332
[13:30] <hroi> ssh -X guest@myserver "myprog.py"  dont work, because the  .bashrc  is not being sourced.
[13:30] <warddr> !ask | Guest77332
[13:30] <hroi> Im pretty sure it must be a settin in the remote ssh daemon
[13:30] <Guest77332> ok
[13:30] <hroi> but I dont know where to look
[13:31] <Dori922> i have a question id like to ask, is it okey if i can ask for permission to as a question about my question ?
[13:31] <Guest77332> why do i need to connect my usb modem in win7 first before i can use in linux os ubuntu 11.04
[13:31] <hwilde> !ask | Dori922
[13:31] <andantino> are there any general computer channels
[13:31] <Dori922> hwilde:  ;P
[13:31] <hroi> its important that the remote environment is sourced, because I need to set PYTHONPATH and other things
[13:31] <hroi> just would be convenient, and I have seen this on my other systems.
[13:31] <Guest77332> anyone knows why?
[13:31] <mc_teo> snippet: I could probably live with it as it is
[13:32] <mc_teo> but since minecraft got all glitchy
[13:32] <mc_teo> i tried updating to latest nvidia drivers
[13:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> andantino:  define "general computer channels".  do you mean hardware support?
[13:32] <mc_teo> and they stopped compiz from working for some reason
[13:32] <Guest77332> anyone?
[13:33] <devatwork> Hey guys...is the "Path" attribute of .desktop files deprecated ?
[13:33] <devatwork> It doesnt seem to be reading it
[13:33] <andantino> well phoenix, im looking at buying a new laptop
[13:33] <livcd> andantino: buy a mac !
[13:33] <andantino> so im just looking for advice, so any channel where that would be a suitable topic
[13:35] <DustyMonk> andantino: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:35] <Lerrick> helo
[13:35] <Lerrick> how can i max out my download rates on ubuntu?
[13:36] <cristi-marineru> how y can change ubuntu 11.04 live cd boot resolution ? y need 800x600
[13:36] <DustyMonk> Lerrick: what do you mean by 'max out download rates'?
[13:36] <Lerrick> well im downloading torrent using Bittornado
[13:36] <xgt001> Lerrick, the best i have found out is downthemall for firefox... even axel is pretty decent
[13:37] <Lerrick> and download rates is too slow
[13:37] <hroi> anyone have any ideas?  ssh -X user@host ". ~/.bashrc ; myprog.py"   this seems silly to have to source it in the command
[13:37] <xgt001> folks which is better... xv or gl video output.. especially for modern ati cards?
[13:37] <Lerrick> do i need to open port for bittornado?
[13:37] <mc_teo> xgt001: xv
[13:38] <Lerrick> at
[13:38] <Lerrick> @
[13:38] <Lerrick> @xgt001 do i need to open port for bittornado
[13:38] <xgt001> mc_teo, but my fans blast out at fullspeeds in xv .. smplayer shows something like gl (fast - for ATI cards ) .. why is xv taxing ?
[13:39] <mc_teo> xgt001: xv reduces general performance a bit, but its the only thing that makes games run smoothly
[13:40] <Willis420> how come on natty 11.04 i don't have any battery settings under power management?
[13:40] <Willis420> only ac
[13:40] <mc_teo> Lerrick: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=do+i+need+to+open+port+for+bittornado%3F
[13:41] <xgt001> Lerrick, my apologies i dont have much idea about torrents... thought transmission is pretty excellent in speeds
[13:41] <pangolin> !lmgtfy | mc_teo
[13:41] <xgt001> mc_teo, so can i use gl for playing vidoes?
[13:41] <pangolin> mc_teo: and please do not give people lmgtfy links, it's rude.
[13:41] <mc_teo> if you wish
[13:41] <pangolin> thank you.
[13:42] <mc_teo> pangolin: he has been asking questions all day though, and i wasn't the first to get annoyed
[13:42] <pangolin> mc_teo: if you are getting annoyed step away or don't answer at all.
[13:43] <pangolin> being rude is never an option in the Ubuntu world :)
[13:43] <Stanley00> Willis420: it's wont ì you are using AC power, try unplug the adapter and you will see it ;0
[13:43] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:44] <Willis420> stanley; no it still only has ac power options, i can upload a screenshot if you'd like
[13:45] <mc_teo> pangolin: do you know much about optimus on ubuntu?
[13:45] <mc_teo> or anyone else for that matter
[13:45] <Lerrick> exit
[13:45] <pangolin> mc_teo: not a clue
[13:46] <aoeui> I just tried doing an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on 11.10 beta and got this: http://pastebin.com/uJ6XPYGa
[13:47] <siegfried1991> Hi! Could you help me, please?
[13:47] <siegfried1991> How can I make screen shot virtual console?
[13:47] <pangolin> !11.10 | aoeui
[13:50] <ucenik29> hello my men
[13:50] <xgt001> mc_teo : optimus will be supported the best in oneiric
[13:50] <xgt001> kernel 3.0x has lots of added support for switchable graphics
[13:50] <MrSassyPants> is software-center not available for 10.04 ?
[13:50] <ucenik29> GOOKS
[13:50] <MrSassyPants> is there something similiar?
[13:50] <ucenik29> no way
[13:50] <jpbadeveloper> Good morning, please suggest book for python to me
[13:51] <ucenik29> pu se da vi ebam
[13:51] <ucenik22> glusecii
[13:51] <xgt001> jpbadeveloper, byte of python
[13:51] <ucenik29> lallalalalla
[13:51] <jpbadeveloper> xgt001 thank you
[13:52] <riopgr> hi. can anyone tell me, why does transmission slow down firefox, even though i have limited down/up?
[13:53] <lucid9> hi, can somebody please tell me whats wrong with the command here: http://pastebin.com/Xcxk616E, i am trying to install a batch processing plug-in gimp
[13:53] <riopgr> or rather slow down connection on everything else
[13:54] <zamba> how do i disable the animation when switching workspace in ubuntu?
[13:57] <timsah22> hello
[13:57] <lucid9> guys?
[13:57] <lmontrieux> lucid9, what's the output when you run the command?
[13:57] <lmontrieux> lucid9, please copy it to pastebin too
[13:58] <lucid9> just a sec
[13:58] <linux> test
[13:58] <compdoc> fail
[13:58] <unknown_> Hello
[13:58] <lucid9> http://pastebin.com/P5YujRDX
[13:59] <lucid9> lmontrieux: http://pastebin.com/P5YujRDX
[13:59] <lmontrieux> lucid9, there you are, the directory you're trying to 'cd' to doesn't exist
[13:59] <lucid9> it does
[14:00] <lmontrieux> bash: cd: /home/vikramshankar/.gimp2.6/plug-ins/: No such file or directory
[14:00] <lmontrieux> lucid9, either it doesn't or the permissions are wrong
[14:00] <lucid9> yes, but the directory does exist
[14:00] <bananen> Hi there. Anyone who thinks he can help a guy with sound problems?
[14:00] <lucid9> and it is in my ~
[14:00] <xgt001> unknown_, hello
[14:00] <lucid9> so i don't see how it has something to do with permissions
[14:00] <lmontrieux> lucid9, can you check the directory's permissions ?
[14:00] <lucid9> i works if i don't use ~
[14:00] <lucid9> ok, just a sec
[14:00] <xgt001> bananen, lets try :)
[14:01] <linux> how do install wine on my samsung galaxy s2 phone, i use ubuntu 10
[14:01] <unknown_> I need to train skill with COM-ports in Ubuntu, but i dont have COM port on mine PC =) So, is there any chance to emulate COM port and device connected to in in Ubuntu? Best for me - emulate com under usb
[14:01] <bananen> xgt001: could you start private chat? don't know how to :P
[14:01] <lucid9> drwxr-xr-x
[14:01] <xgt001> linux, are you using the arm edition?
[14:01] <linux> yes
[14:01] <lmontrieux> lucid9, and the owner is the user with which you're running the command, right?
[14:02] <unknown_> i mean, use usb-device as it connected to com port
[14:02] <lucid9> yes
[14:02] <lmontrieux> lucid9, isn't is .gimp-2.6 instead of .gimp2.6?
[14:02] <xgt001> bananen, please post your queries here as someone else will help u if i cant solve your problem :)
[14:02] <lucid9> :)
[14:02] <bananen> xgt001: k, thanks.
[14:03] <lucid9> thanks a ton, my bad
[14:03] <matthias___1986> join ##pfsense
[14:03] <bananen> Does anyone know how to change default audio device in ubuntu?
[14:03] <lmontrieux> lucid9, no problem, these things happen and are hard to spot :)
[14:03] <bananen> alsamixer only works as root and the wrong card is defaulting
[14:04] <xgt001> bananen, click preferences > sound there select the output tab
[14:05] <riopgr> ive got problems with transmission slowing connection from everything else, even though ive limited down/up. seems like one torrent i just added is specifically causing the problem. does anyone have any idea why?
[14:05] <xgt001> linux,  i dont think there is a wine port for arm
[14:05] <bananen> running openbox. what's the name of the gnome sound control package?
[14:05] <clad> riopgr, which torrent ?
[14:05] <xgt001> how to use ati avivo xv in vlc?
[14:06] <linux> aaw oke :(
[14:06] <riopgr> some TheDarkKnight movie torrent taken from isohunt, downloads very fast if i let it
[14:06] <clad> linux, due to the way wine works, an ARM port is impossible. You need at least the same CPU as the software was designed to run on
[14:08] <clad> riopgr, canonical does not encourage or condemn piracy, while lituania may not care much about copyright laws, we do
[14:08] <riopgr> i see clad
[14:08] <clad> or finland for that matters
[14:08] <clad> (I should learn to read a whois before I troll)
[14:09] <clad> Seriously though, try removing some of the tracker from your torrent that seems suspicious
[14:09] <hroi> I have a brillian request regarding ssh -X xwindow forwarding, but Im not sure it can work
[14:09] <hroi> is it possible to send the same Xwindow from a server onto two different client machines?
[14:10] <hroi> so the users in a way fight over interacting with it.
[14:10] <bars0> Hi guys, I am going to install Ubuntu 10.04 on my desktop and I have 2 320GB drives. What is better to gain maximum performane: software RAID 0 or normal scheme with separate partitions on dwo drives?
[14:10] <clad> That certainly seems like fun, but it would probably be easier to achieve through VNC
[14:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> bars0:  depends on what you really want.  if one of those drives dies, your RAID0 array is dead
[14:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> bars0:  both SATA?
[14:11] <orated> How to delete old kernels installed in updates?
[14:11] <bars0> TheEvilPhoenix: yes, both SATA
[14:11] <MrSassyPants> help: the console is apparently set to an invalid resolution (I didn't do anything)
[14:12] <clad> bars0, Raid only offers significant performance improvement on some very specitif use case, and using raid) you take the risk of loosing all your files if only one dies
[14:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[14:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> bars0:  for the normal use case, don't use RAID
[14:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> the only time you'd really need to use RAID is with numerous drives where you want failsafe, such as RAID5 (but that's usually seen in hardware RAID)
[14:12] <bastidrazor> orated: uninstall them in synaptic
[14:12] <DeadmanIncJS> how does an embedded webcam automatically turn on?  Ubuntu 10.10
[14:13] <bars0> TheEvilPhoenix: so as I understand in case of failure of one disk in RAID array, no data will be accessible?
[14:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> i.e. 5 x 120GB drives, all mirrored
[14:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> bars0:  in RAID0,  yes
[14:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> bars0:  in RAID0, if one drive in the array dies, the entire RAID array is dead
[14:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> *entire RAID array*
[14:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> all drives in it included
[14:13] <clad> RAID is a generic term for many drive layouts. In Raid1 or Raid5 you have some data protection, in Raid0, absolutly none
[14:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[14:14] <orated> bastidrazor: There used to be alternative way to delete the folder containing them ...
[14:14] <bars0> TheEvilPhoenix: thanks, so this is really risky thing, I will create normal scheme
[14:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> bars0:  RAID0 is risky, yes.
[14:14] <bastidrazor> orated: uninstalling them is the proper method of getting rid of unused kernels.
[14:14] <clad> Especially since hard disk really are the quickest component to die in a computer
[14:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[14:14] <orated> bastidrazor: Okay, thanks
[14:15] <clad> (there is a reason the whole industry is steadily switching toward SSD)
[14:15] <bastidrazor> orated: you're welcome. search for linux-image in synaptic
[14:15] <stianhj> how can i clear the ~/.cache folder? low on space
[14:16] <fastcrab> hello!  how would you go about upgrading from rdesktop 1.6.0 to 1.7.0 in natty?  I recompiled rdesktop with a patch to fix a bug, but then noticed 1.7.0 was available from sf.net
[14:16] <clad> rm -rf ./.cache
[14:16] <DeadmanIncJS> how does an embedded webcam automatically turn on?  Ubuntu 10.10
[14:16] <stianhj> clad: so that's safe?
[14:17] <DeadmanIncJS> and wont turn off unless laptop is rebooted
[14:17] <clad> stianhj, yes, cache is by definition nothing vital
[14:17] <stianhj> clad, thanks
[14:20] <clad> Hey, I just discovered that by pressing super_l and a number I can launch the items on the left bar !
[14:20] <clad> So convenient !
[14:21] <fastcrab> ah crud, I have u11.04 and rdesktop 1.7.0 came in u11.10
[14:21] <asdjaputra> like Windows 7? heh
[14:21] <clad> I wouldnt now. Last time I tried windows, XP was still in beta
[14:23] <aar> Hi, is there  any good, native dictation software available for ubuntu?
[14:23] <Parsind> Jobs is dead long live Mark !
[14:23] <somsip> aar: not in a simple way. Dragon on VM could be a reasonable recommendation
[14:24] <aar> somsip, OK thanks
[14:25] <h00k> Parsind: that is not acceptable here.
[14:25] <Parsind> a friend of mine telles me that Mark is acopycat of Jobds
[14:25] <h00k> Parsind: Please take it elsewhere.
[14:25] <clad> Parsind, thats what I was thinking the other day... Since Gates and Jobs in the 80's, there hasnt been much new proeminent figure in computering getting general public knowledge
[14:25] <clad> For instance, there isnt a famous "Mr. Google" or "Mr. Yahoo"
[14:26] <clad> The only new person to emerge was Shuttleworth
[14:26] <auronandace> !ot | clad
[14:26] <Parsind> clad you are forgeting about baLMER
[14:26] <ssn> hi
[14:26] <Parsind> :-P
[14:26] <h00k> !stop | Parsind
[14:26] <ssn> lucid question
[14:26] <ssn> i can not seem to open any more programs in gnome
[14:27] <ssn> not even the terminal opens
[14:27] <prabu> hi
[14:27] <ssn> and i need the terminal
[14:30] <ssn> i already removed all gnome config files
[14:30] <ssn> but still software does not open
[14:31] <asdjaputra> wow
[14:31] <compdoc> yikes
[14:31] <iambeastx> horrible formatting
[14:32] <asdjaputra> were ever?
[14:32] <GirlyGirl> !!
[14:32] <ssn> guys can you please help
[14:32] <unknown__> Can i use usb connected device as com-connected? i need to emulate com port...
[14:32] <ssn> lucid wont open any software. alt+f2 does not work either.
[14:32] <ssn> and some panel programs crash
[14:32] <stianhj> ssn: ctrl-alt t
[14:33] <jamesw> is it possible to log in to an open gnome session without the password, without resetting the password? (i have root)
[14:33] <ssn> also does not work
[14:33] <ssn> it tries to open the terminal session
[14:33] <ssn> but it does not open
[14:34] <ivali> I made an bootable USB drive to install ubuntu 11.04x64 using Universal USB Install 1.8.6.3. When i click click enter on Install ubuntu on hard disk, the computer makes a short beep, black screen for a second, and that menu apears again. Any ideas?
[14:35] <ivali> When i click Run ubuntu from USB, same thing
[14:35] <airdem> hey, how can i upgrade firefox?
[14:35] <airdem> i still have version 3
[14:36] <Stanley00> airdem: you can use ppa, for more info type !ppa ;)
[14:37] <h00k> ubottu: tell airdem about ppa
[14:39] <manbra_linux> Hey, I put some links(shortcuts?) on my desktop.  They disappeared.  When I navigate with my file browser they are shown to be in Desktop
[14:39] <manbra_linux> How do I fix this? :/
[14:39] <airdem> but i dont need the latest bleeding edge firefox
[14:39] <airdem> i though the latest stable is version 7
[14:40] <airdem> why is it not in ubuntu repo?
[14:40] <manbra_linux> Because every version of firefox is slower than the previous one /s
[14:40] <ePlus> helloooooo
[14:41] <cxvhqm> hi
[14:41] <ePlus> could someone provide me with some assistance please
[14:41] <ePlus> regarding wireless usb dongles
[14:41] <LjL> airdem: ubuntu doesn't work like that, packages are only updated for fixes to serious bugs or security issues, not just for a new version
[14:41] <ePlus> and ubuntu 11.04
[14:43] <ePlus> when i attempt to connect to my wireless network it keeps going into a constant loop
[14:43] <ePlus> asking me to re-authenticate
[14:43] <ePlus> i am certain that the password is correct
[14:43] <ePlus> no caps lock etc
[14:44] <Dcite> ePlus: Is this infrastructure mode of Ad-Hoc?
[14:44] <ePlus> intrastructure
[14:44] <airdem> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[14:44] <airdem> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[14:44] <airdem> right?
[14:44] <airdem> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:45] <stianhj> airdem: sudo apt-get update
[14:45] <stianhj> and then upgrade
[14:45] <airdem> thank you
[14:46] <Dcite> ePlus:I.. have no idea at the moment then.. please try the next person :)
[14:46] <phoenixsampras> how to play a Blueray disk? <<<< hello?
[14:47] <ePlus> hehe
[14:47] <BluesKaj> phoenixsampras, is your cdrom bluray capable , first of all ?
[14:47] <ePlus> no worries buddy
[14:47] <phoenixsampras> BluesKaj: yes sir
[14:47] <phoenixsampras> BluesKaj: works awesomely fine in Windows
[14:50] <BluesKaj> phoenixsampras, got ubuntu-restricted-extras installed , and you'll probly need the extra codec stuff/libs from medibuntu as well
[14:51] <ugarit> how do I restore windows xp in Grub and have it be the 1st one on the menu?
[14:52] <nuclearworm> hello, im almost sure that some files remain after programs removal isn t that right?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> nuclearworm, yes if you just remove an app the confog files are left behind, unless you purge the app
[14:56] <nuclearworm> im happy with ubuntu and i think many people is happier than enough
[14:57] <ugarit> how do I restore windows xp in Grub and have it be the 1st one on the menu?
[14:57] <nuclearworm> BluesKaj , what about libs?
[14:58] <sevith> ugarit, What version are you on?
[14:58] <ugarit> sevith: how do I find that out?
[14:58] <sevith> ugarit, cat /etc/issue
[14:58] <ugarit> I think 10.10
[14:58] <BluesKaj> libs are usually shared files , but not all
[14:58] <ugarit> sorry 11.04
[14:59] <sevith> ugarit, if your on ubuntu 10.10 goto /boot/grub/menu.lst vim the file and edit to resleft your changes you can place XP on the top of the list
[14:59] <ugarit> sevith : it's 11.04
[14:59] <nuclearworm> BluesKaj , can ubuntu know which ones it needs and delete the ones it dont?
[14:59] <sevith> ugarit, something similiar to title DOZ    root hd(0,0)     chainloader +1   makeactive
[15:00] <ugarit> sevith: what is DOZ?
[15:00] <sevith> ugarit, You can google for more information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[15:00] <sevith> ugarit, Its just the TITLE for the OS> (What it will display at the grub meny during bootime)(
[15:01] <sevith> Man my fingers are chubby today..
[15:01] <ugarit> sevith: this goes in grub.cfg or /etc/grub.d ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> nuclearworm, a package manager is st up to delete files which aren't needed ...if you intend to purge best to let apt or tour package manger take care of that
[15:01] <BluesKaj> tout=your
[15:02] <galagala> when i boot my computer i get something called GNU Grub, how do i get everything back to normal?
[15:03] <sevith> ugarit, Neither if your on 10.10 its /etc/grub/menu.lst if your on 11.04 its grub.cfg
[15:03] <sevith> Similiar concepts but grub 2.0 change the menu.lst file layout a little bit. Just google around for it
[15:03] <sevith> galagala, If you dont want the grub. Reinstall windows and dont dual boot linux :P
[15:03] <galagala> i'm really new to this,
[15:04] <sevith> galagala, Grub and LILO are bootloaders for linux. If your going to boot linux your going to need them. If you dont like them then just run windows and install cygwin or something :P
[15:04] <galagala> sevith, I've been thinking about that, but dont have the time now, how can I boot ubuntu from grub?
[15:04] <nuclearworm> BluesKaj , i ve installed some programs. then removed them and deleted packages but free disk space is not close to what it should. so what happened?
[15:04] <sevith> galagala, It should be under your grub menus on boot....?
[15:04] <galagala> sevith, what must i type to view the menu?
[15:05] <sevith> galagala, Turn your computer on..? And then grub pops up.
[15:05]  * yuangang hello
[15:05] <galagala> sevith, yeah, the grub pops up, but i don't see a menu..
[15:05] <ugarit> sevith is not supposed to be in /etc/grub.d and then run update-grub?
[15:06] <sevith> galagala, Dont you see options for the operating system kernels in grub at boot time? Or its completely empty?...
[15:06] <harobed> someone can help me about this bug on 11.10 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11315622#post11315622
[15:06] <Tigryss> hi
[15:06] <sevith> ugarit, what?
[15:06] <harobed> I didn't found it on launchpad
[15:06] <galagala> sevith, I can type in commands, I dont see a menu
[15:07] <sevith> galagala, Uhm. is it a shell or a grub command prompt?
[15:07] <ugarit> sevith: to boot windows first! grub.cfg says that "It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates"
[15:07] <galagala> sevith, i guess a shell, the screen is completely black except for the text
[15:08] <sevith> galagala, type ifconfig in the shell then
[15:08] <galagala> ugarit, is grub-mkconfig the command i need?
[15:08] <sevith> galagala, tell me if anything happens
[15:08] <sevith> lol
[15:08] <BluesKaj> nuclearworm,.that might cleanup space run sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:08] <patatashka> hi
[15:08] <galagala> sevith, okay brb
[15:08] <sevith> sudo apt-get remove life
[15:08] <patatashka> any body polish people?
[15:09] <bazhang> !pl | patatashka
[15:09] <sevith> ugarit, no You dont need all those commands. Just add in your windows title and stuff and reboot. It will work.
[15:09] <bazhang> harobed, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[15:09] <patatashka> ok
[15:09] <sevith> ugarit, You can update grub using update-grub2 or w.e but i dont think you need to
[15:09] <ugarit> sevith: on top? of grub.cfg ?
[15:09] <sevith> you can run it just incase it wont hurt anything
[15:10] <sevith> Anyone. Is that right? If your just adding another OS into the grub config file do you need to run update-grub2 ?
[15:11] <staticlab> hi all!
[15:11] <sevith> Hi
[15:12] <ugarit> sevith: so add http://pastebin.com/Q2EQz87P as the first part of /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[15:12] <Tigryss> I put 2x4 GB of memory into the machine, what the motherboard bios recognises fine. The trouble that Linux is 2.6.35-30-generic #59-Ubuntu x86_64 GNU/Linux only 3540992k realises.
[15:13] <Polah> sevith: Don't edit your grub.cfg directly.
[15:13] <Avasz> Tigryss, could it be that ubuntu is showing just free memory available??
[15:13] <sevith> Polah, Where do we edit the OS lists with grub 2?
[15:13] <ugarit> Polah: so how do I add my windows xp (sda2) as the first boot order, it doesn't yet exist in grub
[15:14] <Polah> sevith: running update-grub should pick up existing systems. If not you can add them manually to /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[15:14] <Tigryss> Avas: Mem:   3540992k total,   721168k used,  2819824k free,    36292k buffers
[15:14] <hughissuper> I upgraded to Oneiric, and now my touchpad doesn't work.  I tried going in the terminal to enable it, but still no result.  Ho can I fix this?
[15:14] <bazhang> hughissuper, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[15:14] <sevith> Polah, :D OK
[15:14] <Avasz> Tigryss, oh.. ok.
[15:15] <android> new to linux how do i get a icon on my desktop? have tried slide programs in the desktop folder but they wont go there?
[15:15] <sevith> Polah, Does that file use the same syntax as the new grub2 grub.cfg file or the old grub menu.lst ?
[15:16] <Polah> sevith: Yes, same syntax as grub.cfg. Just run update-grub and see if it adds it first.
[15:16] <sevith> ugarit, ^----
[15:16] <Tigryss> Avasz: very interesting because all slotban are the bios sees it
[15:16] <Tigryss> Avasz: very interesting because all slots are the bios sees it
[15:17] <Polah> ugarity: Run update-grub, there's a script that should automatically pick up other installed Oses
[15:18] <ugarit> Polah: Windows is not listed so I assume I have to edit 40_custom
[15:18] <ugarit> do I put http://pastebin.com/Q2EQz87P in 40_custom ?
[15:18] <ugarit> Polah: do I put http://pastebin.com/Q2EQz87P in 40_custom ?
[15:19] <sevith> ugarit, Try Running update-grub like he said. If that doesnt work add something simliar like :http://pastebin.com/p9ZdUv47 to your file but you shouldnt need to
[15:19] <XertroV> Hey there, I was wondering, could anyone help me with an issue I have? I've got Ubuntu server, and every URL is redirecting to localhost.
[15:19] <sevith> Use that ugarit
[15:19] <Tigryss> any idea
[15:19] <Tigryss> ?
[15:19] <sevith> Something simliar i guess. Thats from my file.
[15:20] <ugarit> sevith: when you say "to your file" do you mean 40_custom?
[15:20] <sevith> ugarit, yeah
[15:21] <sevith> Whos on 11.04?
[15:22] <sevith> Anyone else have wireless issues on 11.04?
[15:22] <zeks> Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'humanity to others' Unity is an ancient African word for 'a dung, you can't even build house of'
[15:22] <thehappydog> o/
[15:23] <kgrr> I'd like to update to Java 7 but can't find out how. Can you help me?
[15:23] <GirlyGirl> !ot | zeks
[15:23] <sevith> kgrr, Google can.
[15:23] <zeks> sry
[15:23] <Tigryss> I put 2x4 GB of memory into the machine, what the motherboard bios recognises fine. The trouble that Linux is 2.6.35-30-generic #59-Ubuntu x86_64 GNU/Linux only 3540992k realises.
[15:23] <fritsch> kgrr: do you know, why you want to update?
[15:24] <fritsch> kgrr: some lambda features missing in java 6? just curious to know
[15:24] <kgrr> fritsch: A webapp doesn't work and I was told to upgrade. As a good user, I'm willing to do so :D
[15:24] <fritsch> kgrr: do you have a link to this app?
[15:25] <fritsch> kgrr: i rather think your plugin does not load correctly
[15:25] <fritsch> kgrr: there are very, very few java7 apps outside
[15:25] <kgrr> fritsch: http://galanet.eu
[15:25] <LmAt> I used the command cat `find *.xml` | grep slider
[15:25] <LmAt> and it worked very well, finding what I want to find.  Now, how can I find which file it's in?
[15:25] <LmAt> Perhaps what would be nice is to see it in context...
[15:25] <fritsch> kgrr: on the start page?
[15:26] <kgrr> fritsch: In fact: http://galanet.eu/index_menu.php
[15:26] <sevith> Ubuntu 11.04 broke 2 of my laptops and a desktop. Im afraid to upgrade on anything else. 11.04 Sucks horrible. Unity is the devil.
[15:26] <kgrr> fritsch: but it's quite buggy
[15:26] <fritsch> kgrr: there is php bug in it :-)
[15:27] <yuangang> can't get used to unity
[15:27] <kgrr> fritsch: I'd like to upgrade to exclude that it's Javas fault
[15:27] <fritsch> kgrr: do you get an error message, when loading the java app (i cannot see) ?
[15:27] <kgrr> fritsch: No
[15:27] <sevith> Come on You dont even support english? :P
[15:27] <fritsch> kgrr: just nothing loads?
[15:28] <fritsch> sevith: no wireless laptops here
[15:28] <fritsch> sevith: no wireless laptops with bugs, here
[15:28] <kgrr> fritsch: The page you see loads, the problem occurs later. I can't show you, you need an account for that.
[15:28] <fritsch> ah okay
[15:28] <fritsch> kgrr: do you have the sun version of jre installed?
[15:28] <sevith> fritsch, haha First iv heard. I think everyone I know who uses wireless ubuntu 11.04 broke it.
[15:29] <kgrr> fritsch: I tried both
[15:29] <fritsch> sevith: you are the first i heard the opposite of ;-)
[15:30] <fritsch> kgrr: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html <- here is an unsupported method descriped
[15:30] <fritsch> kgrr: with a ppa
[15:30] <fritsch> kgrr: this is not supported in any way
[15:30] <Tigryss> I see my problem is too big for this community. :D
[15:30] <kgrr> fritsch: Great. That shouldn't be too difficult
[15:30] <fritsch> Tigryss: nope
[15:30] <kgrr> fritsch: How is it supposed?
[15:31] <fritsch> Tigryss: what is your mainboard chipset?
[15:31] <fritsch> Tigryss: if it is i945 it does not correctly remap the ram after the pci devices back - so not a linux fault
[15:31] <fritsch> Tigryss: check for a "memory map" option in bios
[15:31] <Tigryss> mainboard is a asrock P5b-de
[15:32] <Tigryss> intel inside p965 +ich8
[15:32] <fritsch> Tigryss: wait, let me have a look
[15:32] <Tigryss> :D
[15:32] <fritsch> Tigryss: this should work, in deed
[15:32] <fritsch> Tigryss: do you have 64 bit ubuntu installed?
[15:32] <Tigryss> yes
[15:33] <fritsch> Tigryss: this seems further strange :-)
[15:33] <Tigryss> Linux is 2.6.35-30-generic #59-Ubuntu x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:33] <kgrr> fritsch: Why isn't openjdk-7 in the repositories yet?
[15:33] <seed_> kk
[15:33] <fritsch> kgrr: don`t know
[15:33] <kgrr> fritsch: Ok, thanks so far. I'll try that
[15:34] <compdoc> thats an older kernel - must not be 11.04
[15:34] <hagus> index.html works for me at /var/www but when I put test.cgi with a default cgi code, it claims that it cannot even find such a file.  Should I ask here or in #apache or #python?
[15:34] <fritsch> Tigryss: could you place full dmesg into a pastebin?
[15:34] <hagus> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[15:35] <Tigryss> fritsch yes can u give me the url?
[15:35] <fritsch> Tigryss: just use one you are familiar with
[15:35] <fritsch> !pastebin
[15:36] <Tigryss> ok just a sec
[15:37] <sevith> Steve Jobs is dead!
[15:37] <Tigryss> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703453/
[15:37] <sevith> Noooo!
[15:37] <bazhang> !ot | sevith
[15:38] <hagus> Have now removed nanoweb.  http://localhost works.  http://localhost/test.cgi gives a "could not connect to localhost" error :(
[15:39] <fritsch> Tigryss: your bios does not give it to you :-)
[15:39] <mattalexx> How can I have Nautilus display display my username only, without my real name? http://i.imgur.com/aRhFl.png
[15:39] <Tigryss> ????
[15:39] <fritsch> Tigryss: let me check the options of the mainboard
[15:40] <fritsch> Tigryss: Memory: 3521676k/3604096k available <- linux just gets this
[15:40] <Tigryss> yes i seeű
[15:40] <Tigryss> yes i see
[15:41] <ph03nix> hello
[15:41] <kel_> newb question: how do i restore the tree list view on the file manager? I accidentally closed it somehow
[15:41] <kel_> it's the panel on the left side with Computer/Home/Downloads etc
[15:41] <mustansir> hello everybody
[15:41] <fritsch> Tigryss: do you have a very old pci card in this computer?
[15:42] <NCC> I installed Yate and i can't hear anything when i ring someone or they ring me.
[15:42] <tracy> Hello all
[15:42] <vivid> kel_, try View->Sidebar->Show Sidebar
[15:42] <sevith> Quick question. THROUGH SSH how can i get it to forward something like gedit? If i wanted to edit a file. ssh config x11 forwarding? This fails? Firewall perhaps?
[15:42] <kel_> ah, right, forgot about the title bar being right up there in unity, thanks vivid
[15:42] <Tigryss> fritsch: no 2 intel NIC and 1 realtek
[15:43] <Tigryss> eth0,1,2
[15:43] <fritsch> go into your bios
[15:43] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Do you hear sound from other apps?
[15:43] <fritsch> Tigryss: Advanced -> Memory Remap Feature
[15:43] <fritsch> Tigryss: Enable Memory Remap Feature
[15:43] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Yes.
[15:44] <fritsch> Tigryss: http://europe.asrock.com/downloadsite/manual/P5B-DE.pdf page 37
[15:44] <hagus> Ah - have just realised what is wrong.  file:///var/www/index.html was what was working - not http://localhost/index.html  Does that mean that my server is not running?
[15:44] <Tigryss> ok, i try it
[15:45] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Found this http://osdir.com/ml/telephony.yate/2008-02/msg00098.html
[15:46] <gebbione> hi i need to create a partition on the hardisk running my operating system to make some space for windows, what is the best approach to use?
[15:46] <fritsch> Tigryss: does it work?
[15:46] <gebbione> should i boot to some sort of rescue mode to access gparted?
[15:46] <sevith> gebbione, I would pop in a bootable disk and shrink the partition that way.
[15:47] <vivid> sevith, read this http://www.cisl.ucar.edu/docs/ssh/guide/node29.html
[15:47] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: That's confusing.
[15:47] <gebbione> indeed thanks sevith
[15:47] <n8w> hey
[15:47] <steel_> gebbione, you could use gparted-live
[15:48] <n8w> guys, how do i get rid of the global menubar in gnome 3?
[15:48] <vivid> n8w, google it
[15:48] <vivid> 'disable global menu natty'
[15:48] <n8w> vivid, could rly find anythin usefull...
[15:48] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: hmm can't you use an alternative VOIP app like skype?
[15:49] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: No it has to be one that i can hook up to my SIP server.
[15:49] <n8w> vivid, im used to KDE, so this is the first time i get my hands on gnome...
[15:49] <vivid> n8w, first hit http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unixmen.com%2Flinux-tutorials%2Flinux-distributions%2Flinux-distributions4-ubuntu%2F1598-howto-disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal&rct=j&q=disable%20global%20menu%20natty&ei=-M2NTqGKOKeKsQL6-azKAQ&usg=AFQjCNGcHB3nzQLCCjGQ2EkM2lISl5E2mw&sig2=dr5xZF21zpy7yZZhdogQEA&cad=rja
[15:50] <Tigryss> hi
[15:50] <Tigryss> re
[15:50] <Tigryss> cool
[15:50] <n8w> vivid, hmm sry my bad
[15:50] <fritsch> Tigryss: does it work?
[15:50] <Tigryss> yesss
[15:50] <Tigryss> 7,8
[15:50] <Tigryss> :D
[15:50] <sevith> Uh oh. http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=filetype:cfg+inurl%3Apwd&pbx=1&oq=filetype:cfg+inurl%3Apwd&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=149l534l4l736l3l4l0l0l0l2l301l889l0.1.2.1l4l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=6844df49ecc9ed6e&biw=1268&bih=597
[15:51] <fritsch> Tigryss: joa - the bios, your friend and helper
[15:51] <Tigryss> your good
[15:51] <its> you're
[15:51] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Apparently Yate has trouble with pulseaudio http://tech.velmont.net/quick-test-of-5-foss-linux-sip-softphones-inside-nat/
[15:52] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: It doesn't support pulseaudio.
[15:52] <KittyGirl> It's either ALSA or OSS.
[15:52] <KittyGirl> I'm using ALSA.
[15:53] <livcd> pulse audio is shiaaat
[15:53] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Sorry can't be of much help there
[15:53] <fritsch> livcd: heard that many times
[15:53] <GirlyGirl> livcd: language
[15:53] <fritsch> livcd: i say the opposite
[15:53] <vivid> you can turn pulse off
[15:53] <vivid> edit /etc/default/pulse.conf and set autospawn to no, then killall pulseaudio
[15:53] <mattalexx> How can I have Nautilus display display my username only, without my real name? http://i.imgur.com/aRhFl.png
[15:54] <vivid> use start-pulseaudio-x11 if you want to relaunch it
[15:54] <fritsch> meitnerium: delete your nome from /etc/passwd
[15:54] <fritsch> meitnerium: but to not mess stuff up in this file
[15:54] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: I'd like help with Express Talk then (Windows App).
[15:54] <airdem> *do not
[15:54] <KittyGirl> I installed it in WINE...
[15:54] <KittyGirl> I get a tone.
[15:55] <KittyGirl> but i can't hear what the other side is saying.
[15:55] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: The "other side" hears you?
[15:55] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Nope.
[15:56] <KittyGirl> Express Talk is what i normally use.
[15:57] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Doesn't anything in http://tech.velmont.net/quick-test-of-5-foss-linux-sip-softphones-inside-nat/ work for you?
[16:00] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: I've tried them all.
[16:01] <ugarit> I'm back.  ok, I have 11.04 installed on my laptop.  Windows XP used to show up in the Grub menu but now it doesn't after I updated 11.04.  I ran upgrade-grub and it didn't add windows.  What do I do? it's on sda2
[16:01] <lluvia> hello, how can I set the minimize, maximize, exit buttons of the windows in the right part instead of the left, in ubuntu Lucid Linx?
[16:02] <KittyGirl> lluvia: Lucid Puppy!
[16:02] <KittyGirl> WOOF WOOF!
[16:02] <KittyGirl> Oh i forgot...
[16:02] <wis3v0yag3r> lluvia, proceed to control centre
[16:02] <KittyGirl> I'm a Kitty.
[16:02] <KittyGirl> woopsies.
[16:02] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: So nothing else does the job?
[16:03] <vivid> lluvia, run gconf-editor, navigate to apps/metacity/general
[16:03] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Nope.
[16:03] <vivid> edit button layout to menu:minimize,maximize,close or :minimize,maximize,close
[16:04] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Maybe try kphone
[16:04] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Tried it but as soon as the call is answered kphone closes.
[16:04] <lluvia> vivid: ok, thanks
[16:05] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Can you lauch kphone from Terminal and paste the exact verbose output when it closes
[16:05] <w30> ugarit, edit /boot/grub/menu.1st
[16:06] <vivid> w30, he likely doesnt have legacy grub
[16:06] <vivid> consequently, he likely doesnt have a menu.lst
[16:07] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: What about ekiga and empathy
[16:08] <w30> ugarit, in menu.1st there is an example entry for chainloading Windows 95/98/NT/2000. In your case (hd0,1) would be what you want
[16:08] <vipinj> Hi, grub version 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3
 , Ubuntu 10.10 I am trying to display my grub menu by default, I commented the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT but the only thing which happens is I cannot see the grub and it boots after timeout, I have only Ubuntu but different kernels as my grub entries
[16:09] <ugarit> w30 I'm using grub2 which doesn't have menu.1st
[16:09] <GirlyGirl> !voip | KittyGirl
[16:10] <vivid> right, your update-grub command should run the osprober which should find windows
[16:10] <ugarit> vivid: it didn't!
[16:10] <vivid> if it doesnt, try googling how to manually add windows to grub
[16:10] <gr33n7007h> can you have skype for ubuntu ?
[16:10] <ugarit> vivid: I did google it, but it's so confusing!
[16:10] <vivid> gr33n7007h, add the ubuntu partner repository and run apt-get install skype
[16:10] <jibbidyjapp> My bluetooth mouse ( razer orochi ) lags when network traffic gets high ( 800 > kb/s ). How do I fix that?
[16:11] <gr33n7007h> that simple. Cheers
[16:11] <standarshy> I"m having poor performance with my Atheros AR5001 network card in linux mint.  It works much better in Windows.  Any suggestions?
[16:11] <bastidrazor> standarshy: ask the linuxmint channel for help.
[16:11] <bastidrazor> !mintsupport > standarshy
[16:12] <standarshy> bastidrazor: I have asked, they wasn't sure.  I was hoping the distro's would be similiar enough that someone might have a suggestion
[16:12] <gr33n7007h> use ndiswrappper
[16:13] <bastidrazor> standarshy: atheros works perfect in ubuntu.
[16:13] <bastidrazor> standarshy: as i have the same card. no issues.
[16:14] <jibbidyjapp> actually, the usb mouse lags regardless of network traffic. Is there a way to fix or tune this so that it works properly?
[16:14] <gr33n7007h> realtek 8187l work flawlessly in ubuntu
[16:14] <jibbidyjapp> it is a bluetooth mouse ( not usb )
[16:15] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: http://pastebin.com/1195rL8e
[16:16] <gr33n7007h> try changing the channel 13
[16:16] <gr33n7007h> less interference
[16:17] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Does it crash with only incoming calls?
[16:18] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: It's when i make an outgoing call it crashes.
[16:18] <KittyGirl> If i answer an incoming call it crashes too.
[16:19] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Did you try empathy and ekiga
[16:20] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Yes.
[16:20] <KittyGirl> Empathy doesn't support VoIP.
[16:20] <KittyGirl> and ekiga just doesn't work either.
[16:22] <monstro> Hi everyone, Somebody can I help, please ? I installed the Ubuntu 11.04 and I did want know where I find the Xorg.conf in system.
[16:22] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Are you sure yate is correctly configured
[16:22] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Positive.
[16:23] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: My calls get answered.
[16:23] <monstro> somebody ? please.
[16:23] <Monsterwizard> monstro someone will know and read your question soon
[16:24] <AG1T> monstro: Hold on, I am looking real quick to see if I can find it for you.
[16:24] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: So you don't hear anything and the other party doesn't here you but dial tone works
[16:24] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: There is no dial tone.
[16:25] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: so no sound at all
[16:25] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Nope.
[16:25] <monstro> AG1T: okay.
[16:26] <somsip> monstro: IIRC, there is no xorg.conf by deault on 11.04 but one can be created. /etc/X11 i believe
[16:26] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: maybe http://www.twinklephone.com/ but you have to compile it
[16:27] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Tried it.
[16:27] <KittyGirl> and no you don't have to compile it.
[16:27] <meta-coder> KittyGirl, GirlyGirl, what are you upto?
[16:27] <KittyGirl> meta-coder: Trying to get my phone line to work. :(
[16:28] <meta-coder> KittyGirl, You are in the wrong IRC channel then.
[16:28] <GirlyGirl> meta-coder: She is tring VOIP ... some apps crash others have no sound ...
[16:28] <w30> ugarit, I am behind the times, I haven't messed with grub2
[16:28] <KittyGirl> meta-coder: No.
[16:28] <Omni_Lynk> Where can i change what sounds is played during startup?
[16:28] <allowoverride> im trying to decide which is best to use and why- 10.04 LTS or 10.10? any suggestions? thank you very much
[16:28] <somsip> allowoverride: what do you want from it?
[16:28] <monstro> somsip: strange!
[16:28] <jason_> asdf''
[16:28] <allowoverride> anyone?
[16:29] <somsip> monstro: I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've heard that before
[16:29] <somsip> allowoverride: I've already responded
[16:29] <allowoverride> laptop OS
[16:29] <allowoverride> anyone else
[16:29] <Monsterwizard> I use 10:04
[16:29] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703484/
[16:29] <MSK> Anyone experimented with other Linux distros besides Ubuntu?
[16:30] <somsip> MSK: yes, but this is not the place to discuss them :)
[16:30] <allowoverride> MSK:  yep
[16:30] <w30> ugarit, I would not want to help you mess up your grub2
[16:30] <allowoverride> actually MSK check out #atluccg for that, or #linux
[16:30] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Tried all those?
[16:31] <MSK> OK
[16:31] <AG1T> monstro:  I am not finding it.  I am still hunting.
[16:31] <allowoverride> much friendly chat can be found than here
[16:31] <Omni_Lynk> Where can i change what sounds is played during startup?
[16:31] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: I already have a working PBx.
[16:31] <monstro> AG1T: the somsip said does not exist...
[16:32] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: So what is the functionality missing in it
[16:32] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: It's the softphone that wont work.
[16:32] <KittyGirl> in Ubuntu
[16:32] <KittyGirl> Installing linphone...
[16:34] <enjoycrf> hey does any one know where the top menu setting is
[16:34] <theadmin> enjoycrf: wut?
[16:34] <enjoycrf> the app menu on mac is at the top
[16:34] <theadmin> enjoycrf: ...We don't really support macs...
[16:35] <enjoycrf> there is an option in ubuntu
[16:35] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: So none of these work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftPhone
[16:35] <enjoycrf> to have it either at the top
[16:35] <enjoycrf> or top of application
[16:35] <Omni_Lynk> Where can i change what sounds is played during startup?
[16:35] <AG1T> monstro: That is maybe why I am not finding it.  Must be a holder over from the old days.
[16:36] <theadmin> Omni_Lynk: You can't really do that. Another solution is to put "mplayer /path/to/your/sound.ogg" to startup apps, and remove "GNOME Startup Sound" from there
[16:36] <Omni_Lynk> theadmin, Thanks, i'll do that instead.
[16:36] <theadmin> Omni_Lynk: Of course, I assume you do have mplayer installed. Actually, any other command-line based player will do (cvlc, mplayer, aplay...)
[16:37] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: run winecfg
[16:37] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Find a test sound button and press it
[16:38] <theadmin> Hey GirlyGirl :)
[16:38] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: hi
[16:39] <mika_> j'aimerais savoir certaine chose sur l'ataque man in the middle
[16:39] <theadmin> !fr | mika_
[16:39] <somsip> mika_: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attaque_de_l%27homme_du_milieu
[16:40] <GirlyGirl> mika_: Plutot #ubuntu-fr-offtopic
[16:40] <fossala> Is an rc comming out today?
[16:40] <theadmin> fossala: Oneric support/discussion in #ubuntu+1, please
[16:41] <fossala> sorry, thanks.
[16:43] <designbybeck> the the release so close why is there no count down timer on the home page?
[16:44] <Shatters> how does Long Term Support (LTS) make ubuntu 10 different than 11?
[16:44] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Lol i can't seem to configure linphone.
[16:44] <comitt> hey all. i installed ubuntu 11.04 after windows xp. how do i edit the boot menu (meaning the operating system loaded by default)? thanks
[16:45] <designbybeck> comitt, try this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[16:45] <comitt> thanks
[16:46] <enjoycrf> u guys kno where that dam menu is lol
[16:46] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: open winecfg
[16:46] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Why?
[16:46] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Then press the test sound button
[16:46] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Trying to get sound on the windows app
[16:46] <designbybeck> comitt, maybe this one as well http://makingtheswitch.wordpress.com/2007/04/29/changing-grub-boot-order-to-boot-windows-xp-before-ubuntu/
[16:47] <comitt> yeah, the other one only opened an empty text file
[16:47] <designbybeck> comitt, OR if you want to make it purdy, go with BURG http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=13965
[16:47] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: But i get a dialling tone on the windows app.
[16:47] <comitt> i mean, the recomended command     gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:47] <comitt> thanks
[16:47] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Ah ok then
[16:49] <moes> comitt, Ubuntu has no menu.lst file the command is /etc/default/grub
[16:50] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: http://www.linphone.org/eng/documentation/ maybe this will help config
[16:50] <comitt> moes, is that the command i put into the terminal ? /etc/default/grub ?
[16:50] <moes> comitt, Are trying to change the default login
[16:51] <comitt> yes, from ubuntu to xp
[16:51] <moes> comitt, Yes use in terminal then change the number of the xp position
[16:52] <grifo74> hello how i configure my multimedia buttons, exist any software to make this
[16:52] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: I should switch distro.
[16:52] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Doubt that will help
[16:52] <theadmin> grifo74: The default "Keyboard Shortcuts" app is capable of this.
[16:54] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Its a VOIP app, whatever distro you use it will be the same and I've been using Kubuntu since 6.06 and the ubuntu family of distros is the one that has the most advantages over others
[16:54] <grifo74> thank i go try
[16:55] <w30> grifo74, try one of the multimedia keyboard choices in system preferences keyboard
[16:55] <galagala> when I try to but i get grub gnu shell up
[16:55] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: "most advantages over others" is insulting for non-Ubuntu users here, you know
[16:55] <galagala> how do i fix this
[16:55] <PsychoX75> here i am.... at it again.   :)
[16:56] <livcd> thats all nice but will it blend ?
[16:56] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: So why isn't it woorking out of the box then?
[16:56] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: well kphone was nice but it uses the old qt3 so it crashes on new systems
[16:57] <KittyGirl> oh :(
[16:57] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Yate does not like pulseaudio which is the modern sound system now
[16:57] <PsychoX75> Mediaplayers can use ur GPU or ur CPU to play a movie.... (hardware acceleration option). My problem is that i have a Quadcore cpu with a sucky weak Videocard. Is there any Mediaplayer that i can explicitly toggle it to USE or NOT USE the videocards cpu?
[16:57] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: How about running Yate with padsp, then?
[16:57] <jcpham> i also do not like pulseaudio
[16:57] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: The trouble is more because of the apps not the distro
[16:57] <comitt> moes, i cant change the grub file since it is owned by "root". what do i do?
[16:58] <jcpham> i have to kill pulseaudio processes eating up cpu all the time
[16:58] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: Good idea
[16:58] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: Why don't you suggest
[16:58] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: but.. Ubuntu eats up a lot of CPU.
[16:58] <GirlyKitty> mine too
[16:59] <Fargh> hi
[16:59] <moes> comitt, sudo gedit /etc/default/grub or use gksu which ever remember grub2 counts from 0 when changing
[16:59] <DustyMonk> girls, that can be due to the kworker bug
[16:59] <comitt> thanks moes
[16:59] <Fargh> what to do if I want to view silverlight on ubuntu firefox ?
[16:59] <airdem> http://i.imgur.com/KmCzW.png
[16:59] <io> !offtopic | airdem
[17:00] <airdem> yay
[17:00] <PsychoX75> ehh... Simple question.      Which mediaplayer has option "Use Videocard-cpu" or "Use normal-cpu"  ?
[17:00] <airdem> im sorry for that, i will behave now
[17:00] <io> airdem: please do
[17:00] <Parsind> i wont
[17:01] <PsychoX75> HAHAHA.... there is someone called 'io'.    Like "I/O"  ?    Cool name man.
[17:01] <Parsind> no like the moon you idiot
[17:01] <PsychoX75> ...
[17:01] <bazhang> Parsind, thats enough
[17:01] <Parsind> what IO is a moon
[17:01] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: I think i'm going to have to switch back to Windows. :(
[17:01] <allowoverride> im trying to decide which is best to use and why as a desktop to use for surfing the net, programing, dev, vbox, printing, ya know, which is better?  10.04 LTS or 10.10? any suggestions? thank you very much
[17:02] <KittyGirl> OSes are supposed to work out of the box like Windows and Mac does.
[17:02] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Don't lose hope so fast
[17:02] <Parsind> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Io_%28moon%29
[17:02] <bazhang> !ot > Parsind
[17:02] <PsychoX75> Kitty: huh? why give up? Fight the good fight....
[17:02] <comitt> moes, i can type /etc/default/grub and it opens the grub file. however, if i type sudo gedit  /etc/default/grub  or gedit  /etc/default/grub  - nothing happens
[17:02] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: The only thing you can do with Linux is run it as a server. :(
[17:03] <comitt> if i only type  /etc/default/grub it wont let me save aferwards
[17:03] <GirlyKitty> Yeah kitty
[17:03] <zakwilson> Windows doesn't always work out of the box either. Taking the time to learn a bit about how your OS works is usually worth the effort.
[17:03] <GirlyKitty> are you using 32bit kitty?
[17:03] <th_> KittyGirl: truthful sentence, up to the word "like". none of the os'es work for everything out of box, os x least of the bunch
[17:03] <theadmin> KittyGirl: Windows? Out of the box? Are you kidding me?
[17:03] <comitt> rofl kittygirl
[17:03] <KittyGirl> theadmin: Do i look like i'm kidding?
[17:03] <theadmin> KittyGirl: You have to install a fsckload of drivers.
[17:03] <moes> comitt,  Did you try gksu
[17:03] <allowoverride> sounds like you guys are hooked due to her nick lol
[17:03] <comitt> will try now, thanks
[17:03] <zakwilson> Windows 7 still doesn't work right on my Thinkpad. Takes 20 minutes to boot.
[17:04] <Parsind> lol
[17:04]  * KittyGirl sighs
[17:04] <Parsind> zakwilson:  try win8
[17:04] <GirlyKitty> don't stay with the dark side kitty
[17:04] <zeks> "Are you SURE you want to boot Windows?"
[17:04] <th_> windows 7 locks up every second time i plug in any usb device, how's that for bizarre bugs..
[17:04] <th_> complete freeze, need to give power button for the comp
[17:04] <allowoverride> sounds like a troll to me, but since "it" is supposed to be a girl, well. your all hooked lol
[17:04] <PsychoX75> Hello?!?!?    Does anyone ever watch a movie in this channel?   An answer would be nice... --->  Which mediaplayer has option "Use Videocard-cpu" or "Use normal-cpu"  ?
[17:05] <GirlyKitty> I bet Steve Jobs would pick linux if he had to go between that or microsoft. just saying
[17:05] <oCean> GirlyKitty: please stay on topic
[17:05] <comitt> thanks moes, much appreciated - now saved. off to test it, all have a good night
[17:05] <PsychoX75> Steve Jobs actually DID pick linux
[17:05] <theadmin> GirlyKitty: Naturally xD It is UNIX-based, all in all
[17:05] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Obviously.
[17:05] <KittyGirl> lol
[17:05] <PsychoX75> only thing is that he threw another GUI over it.
[17:05] <oCean> PsychoX75, KittyGirl enough, move on
[17:05] <babble> BSD. NeXT picked BSD.
[17:05] <KittyGirl> oCean: ?
[17:05] <PsychoX75> 0_o
[17:05] <zakwilson> 11.10 will be LTS, yes?
[17:05] <oCean> KittyGirl: stop the offtopic talk
[17:06] <th_> zakwilson: no
[17:06] <allowoverride> goto #atluccg is you wish to talk about all things techy,, KittyGirl GirlyKitty
[17:06] <oCean> zakwilson: no, 12.04 will
[17:06] <allowoverride> :)
[17:06] <bazhang> allowoverride, dont advertise here
[17:06] <KittyGirl> oCean: I'mnot speaking offtopic.
[17:06] <PsychoX75> ocean: did u actually see my question that i asked like 3 times already?
[17:06] <zakwilson> I thought they came out every 18 months.
[17:06] <GirlyKitty> lol
[17:06] <moes> comitt Np
[17:06] <cheako> dmsg: type=1400 audit apparmor="DENIED" operation="chmod" parent=1 profile="/usr/lib/telepathy/mission-control-5" name="/home/cheako/.cache/" comm="mission-control" requested_mask="w" denied_mask="w"
[17:06] <oCean> PsychoX75: even if you asked 10 times, there is no reason to go offtopic
[17:07]  * drussell tries...
[17:07] <drussell> !LTS
[17:07] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Sorry and thanks for your help.
[17:07] <KittyGirl> All i wanted to do was ring my boyfriend up.
[17:07] <drussell> hmm someone needs to update ubottu
[17:07] <allowoverride> um,,, bazhang correct me im wrong, but you all say goto #linux #off-topic all the time... so...
[17:07] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: You're welcome ... why sorry?
[17:07] <theadmin> drussell: ?... Current LTS is lucid.
[17:07] <zakwilson> KittyGirl: this is the support channel; anything that isn't a technical question or answer is technically off-topic. Some people are pretty strict about that. Is your original question about Skype?
[17:07] <cheako> It's a bogus operation to begin with, telepathy should leave ~/.cache/, a folder it shares with others, alone unless it creates the folder.
[17:07] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Virtualbox is an interessting alternative
[17:07] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: Idk why i said sorry.
[17:08] <drussell> theadmin: sure, but it would be good to say "and LTS releases come out every 2 years"
[17:08] <KittyGirl> STOP HIGHLIGHTING ME
[17:08] <KittyGirl> about offtopic things.
[17:08] <PsychoX75> ehh... guys?  Dont be mad at me, ok?   I'm pretty new at Ubuntu. If i can't ask that here, where should i ask that? I just wanna know something that can actualy play movies in Ubuntu which i can tweak a little.
[17:08] <drussell> theadmin: possibly also stating the next LTS
[17:08] <KittyGirl> I was just thanking GirlyGirl for support.
[17:08] <allowoverride> dont be jealous you didnt think of a room like that... where its not so strick, heck even off-topic rooms are strick... it just pisses people off
[17:08] <livcd> PsychoX75: mplayer
[17:08] <allowoverride> curtails learning, makes people give up
[17:08] <drussell> PsychoX75: mplayer or vlc are both pretty configurable
[17:08] <PsychoX75> livcd: oh?!? that's in Ubuntu too? Thanks
[17:09] <PsychoX75> that's all i needed. Simply a 'name' of the players... I'm gone configuring and installing. Thanks.
[17:10] <cheako> PsychoX75: mplayer  It's typically invoked for the command line and has millions of options and plugins.
[17:10] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: I don't do virtualisation because i only have 1gb RAM.
[17:11] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: Windows Xp should be fine with 256 mb
[17:11] <cheako> PsychoX75: http://pastebin.com/s5Yqp7e6
[17:11] <PsychoX75> cheako: i've seen VLC a couple of times in windows. Gonna try it.
[17:11] <KittyGirl> GirlyGirl: lol but Ubuntu is using a lot of my CPU.
[17:12] <PsychoX75> wow
[17:12] <KittyGirl> PsychoX75: ?
[17:12] <hagus> When I do localhost/cgi-bin  I get Forbidden - no permission error.
[17:12] <GirlyGirl> KittyGirl: You don't have to use Unity (I don't because its resource intensive), instead you can opt for Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu .... same thing different UI
[17:12] <cheako> PsychoX75: Yeah, vlc did'nt work vary well on my machine.  It had problems doing full-screen.  On my box the window boarders would always show and funky things happened if the window was resized or moved.
[17:12] <PsychoX75> Kitty: i meant that for cheako
[17:12] <PsychoX75> :)
[17:12] <Monsterwizard> I dedicated 2GB to ubuntu in a virtual machine
[17:12] <Monsterwizard> is that enough?
[17:13] <hagus> How do I make cgi-bin my own again?
[17:13] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: 2GB what?
[17:13] <Monsterwizard> RAM
[17:13] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: More than.
[17:13] <Monsterwizard> awesome
[17:13] <Monsterwizard> hope unity works in a virtual machine
[17:13] <zeks> oh god
[17:14] <th0r> zeks: you called?
[17:14] <cheako> PsychoX75: Plus it has only a freaction of the featurs you'll find in mplayer...  though it's a got a GUI to configure it.
[17:14] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Not gonna unless you have 3D support
[17:14] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: In Virtualbox, that's done trough guest additions
[17:14] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: No idea about other VMs
[17:14] <KittyGirl> PsychoX75: oh
[17:14] <Monsterwizard> theadmin oh no
[17:15] <Monsterwizard> guest additions never load for me
[17:15] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: I suppose you don't really know how to use them, then
[17:15] <PsychoX75> cheako: the problem i have is that my GPU is a cheap videocard. But my CPU is a quadcore. So when playing blu-ray it can't handle it. I'm trying to 'tell' the mediaplayer to just let the CPU do the job.
[17:15] <Monsterwizard> nope
[17:15] <Monsterwizard> I'll install ubuntu and have a closer look
[17:15] <allowoverride> yawns, when are we going to discuss ubuntu again.... looks around...
[17:15] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: It's something like: mount /dev/sr0 /mnt ; /mnt/VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
[17:16] <Monsterwizard> i'm running windows
[17:16] <allowoverride> since we are not allowed to talk about anything else...
[17:16] <zacktu> i just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 -- all windows open maximized -- where's the setting for that?
[17:16] <Monsterwizard> with ubuntu in a virtual machine
[17:16] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Well, you'll be installing Guest additions in Ubuntu...
[17:16] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Because Ubuntu is the guest
[17:16] <Monsterwizard> oh
[17:16] <Monsterwizard> :P
[17:17] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Before that command, make sure to go to Devices -> Install Guest Additions on the VM's window menu
[17:18] <Monsterwizard> once it's installed I'll be asking
[17:18] <Monsterwizard> I hope it's not too confusing
[17:18] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: I might not be around anymore though xD
[17:18] <Monsterwizard> please stay
[17:18] <Monsterwizard> bitcoins?
[17:19] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: No, thanks xD It doesn't really depend on me
[17:19] <allowoverride> im trying to decide which is best to use and why as a desktop to use for surfing the net, programing, dev, vbox, printing, ya know, which is better?  10.04 LTS or 10.10? any suggestions? thank you very much
[17:19] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: But I'll stay
[17:19] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Well, will try to
[17:19] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: I guess I'll be around for at least a couple hours more
[17:19] <Monsterwizard> oh good
[17:19] <Monsterwizard> It's configuring the hardware artm
[17:19] <Monsterwizard> atm*
[17:20]  * theadmin misread "atm" as "ARM" and thought "wow, Ubuntu has other architectures now?"
[17:20] <allowoverride> is there really a big diff between them? in functionality ? hard to describe. just want it for my laptop
[17:20] <allowoverride> plus and minuses if you will between 10.04 and 10.10
[17:20] <oCean> !arm | theadmin there is an arm project
[17:21] <theadmin> oCean: Oh, cool
[17:21] <theadmin> oCean: Well, should have guessed since I can technically install Ubuntu on my Android phone xD
[17:21] <allowoverride> how long does 10.04 have left supporting wise?
[17:22] <allowoverride> i like gnome desktop, should i just try 11.04
[17:22] <oCean> allowoverride: each LTS has 3 years support for desktop and 5 for server version
[17:22] <allowoverride> oCean: ok
[17:22] <allowoverride> this is a laptop only
[17:23] <oCean> allowoverride: you can download the CD images, and run as livecd, then decide which you like better
[17:23] <allowoverride> i been using 10.10 so long and i have loaded so much, updated, upgraded so much that i cant tell the diff really. kernels are obviously newer, but what am i missing?
[17:23] <theadmin> allowoverride: That means 3 years for you
[17:23] <TheCowgirl> allowoverride, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[17:23] <theadmin> allowoverride: You're missing, well, at least Unity
[17:23] <TheCowgirl> for dates
[17:23] <allowoverride> TheCowgirl: thanks
[17:24] <allowoverride> so what will happen on april 2012 ?
[17:24] <allowoverride> 10.04 will be dead?
[17:24] <TheCowgirl> they just stop releasing updates
[17:24] <theadmin> allowoverride: Yup. You should upgrade before then.
[17:24] <oCean> allowoverride: no, as I told you 10.04 has 3 years of support
[17:24] <jrib> allowoverride: that's 2 years...
[17:24] <allowoverride> i dont get it, why do they do that?
[17:24] <user__> hi
[17:24] <Shatters> btw, reason I pulled steve jobs into convo earlier was in case some of you didn't know he died yesterday
[17:24] <theadmin> allowoverride: Do you think keeping repositories, with gigabytes of data, for ALL the releases would be easy to manage?
[17:25] <oCean> allowoverride: to be able to move the efforts to newer releases
[17:25] <livcd> theadmin: yes
[17:25] <theadmin> allowoverride: Also provide support with HUGE differences in software...
[17:25] <allowoverride> so should i just goto 11.04 LTS and load gnome desktop
[17:25] <TheCowgirl> 11.10 is out this month, no?
[17:25] <drussell> allowoverride: it's the effort of keeping on top of all the updates and all the security patches, we can only support a limited number of versions at once
[17:25] <allowoverride> i dont like the unity dm
[17:25] <theadmin> allowoverride: 11.04 is not an LTS, 11.10 will be if I recall right
[17:26] <jrib> theadmin: no
[17:26] <drussell> theadmin: 12.04 will be LTS
[17:26] <allowoverride> i thought only .04 is LTS
[17:26] <theadmin> jrib: Oh, right
[17:26] <oCean> allowoverride: I told you to download the images and try the live cd
[17:26] <GirlyGirl> theadmin: no 11.10 is not
[17:26] <allowoverride> ic, goes by 2's
[17:26] <oCean> allowoverride: then decide for yourself
[17:26] <user__> hi
[17:26] <Monsterwizard> theadmin shall I shutdown ubuntu first?
[17:26] <theadmin> GirlyGirl: Sorry, I forget their release scheme
[17:26] <xrdodrx> allowoverride, no, it goes by _fours_
[17:26] <allowoverride> oCean: not really helping with attitude like that
[17:26] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: What? No.
[17:26] <allowoverride> 8, 10, 12, thats um, 2's if the math is correct lol
[17:26] <xrdodrx> allowoverride, 10.04 LTS, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10, 12.04 LOTS
[17:27] <allowoverride> yah i understand that
[17:27] <allowoverride> i meant lts only by 2's
[17:27] <bazhang> allowoverride, please dont poll here. try a live cd and decide
[17:27] <allowoverride> just taking educated guess
[17:27] <allowoverride> poll?
[17:27] <allowoverride> huh
[17:27] <bazhang> allowoverride, yes. thats enough.
[17:27] <allowoverride> live cd's are slow, what are you talking about
[17:28] <xrdodrx> allowoverride, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for all the information you'd ever need about ubuntu's release cycle :)
[17:28] <allowoverride> i would never suggest that to anyone unless they were on windows
[17:28] <Monsterwizard> ohboy, I'm in ubuntu now
[17:28] <allowoverride> live cd's are for noobs to linux period, any linux
[17:28] <allowoverride> sheshh
[17:29] <Monsterwizard> theadmin shall  I install guest addons?
[17:29] <Monsterwizard> from the virtual box menu?
[17:29] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: yup
[17:29] <Monsterwizard> oh cool
[17:29] <Monsterwizard> shall I press ok?
[17:30] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: What's the prompt?
[17:30] <Monsterwizard> yeah the prompt
[17:30] <Monsterwizard> ubuntu prompt
[17:30] <Monsterwizard> I pressed ok
[17:30] <Monsterwizard> and it opened the terminal
[17:30] <FloodBot1> Monsterwizard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <oCean> !enter | Monsterwizard
[17:30] <LindaLoveLace> is there some type of #offtopic? - im writing an application via email and my friend copy pasted what got him the job, i just want it reworded so it doesn't look so similar.
[17:31] <Monsterwizard> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:31] <theadmin> LindaLoveLace: What (s)he said
[17:31] <Monsterwizard> ok so I press return to get off the terminal
[17:31] <Monsterwizard> now what?
[17:31] <GirlyGirl> !ot | LindaLoveLace
[17:31] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Open a terminal, go to the place where the cd is mounted, and run the .run file in there
[17:32] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: That's the itineary, if you need the details ask away
[17:32] <hackel> I just ran Disk Utility and discovered a bunch of NBD devices (which it identifies as Solid-State Disks for some reason).  What could be causing this?  I don't even have nbd-client/server installed and have never used a network block device!
[17:32] <Monsterwizard> how do I get to the cd
[17:33] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Are you in GNOME currently?
[17:33] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: i.e. Ubuntu Classic
[17:33] <Monsterwizard> yes
[17:33] <Monsterwizard> what do I run
[17:33] <Monsterwizard> I'm in the folder
[17:33] <Monsterwizard> GUI
[17:33] <FloodBot1> Monsterwizard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <Monsterwizard> oops sorry
[17:33] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Okay, open the CD in a filemanager of some sort, it should be in your places menu
[17:33] <theadmin> Next, hit Ctrl+L and tell me what that gives
[17:34] <Monsterwizard>  There's VDI, VMDK, VHD, HDD
[17:34] <Monsterwizard> oops
[17:34] <ePlus> hello
[17:34] <Monsterwizard> Media/Vbox.................etc
[17:34] <ePlus> can someone please shed some light on my wireless issue
[17:34] <Balaji_TVR> Dear Frineds, I'm new to Ubuntu!
[17:34] <Balaji_TVR> I've a question on how to open C++Annotation-pdf which I've installed via synaptic package manager? In other words, when I install any help/doc file via synaptic manager, how to open it? I could not find it via dash too?
[17:34] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Can you paste the FULL address?
[17:35] <Monsterwizard> I can't :/
[17:35] <x404x> any suggestion for a vox audio recorder for linux ? I tryed audacity but it crashes after a while
[17:35] <cm1nus> halp
[17:35] <ePlus> i have a wireless usb dongle that is unable to establish a connection to my hidden network
[17:35] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Oh, I see the deal, okay, just take a screenshot then xD Or whatever
[17:35] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Either way, meh
[17:36] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Open a terminal, type "cd PASTE_THIS_ADDRESS_HERE" there, hit Enter
[17:36] <ePlus> it can see other networks, it attempts to connect to the network etc, but it just comes back to re-enter the password for that ssid, even though is correct
[17:36] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Next, give me the output of "ls | grep *.run"
[17:36] <ePlus> i am not sure is a driver issue as i can see other networks around etc. i'm running ubuntu 11.04
[17:37] <g0rs> does the CPU frequency selector actually work on gnome?
[17:37] <Monsterwizard> ok there's autorun.sh
[17:38] <theadmin> ePlus: Probably more of a networkmanager and wpa_supplicant issue
[17:38] <Monsterwizard> runasroot.sh
[17:38] <Monsterwizard> Vboxlinuxadditions.run
[17:38] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: That one
[17:38] <theadmin> Okay, type "sudo ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run" (and note that it's case-sensetive!)
[17:38] <Monsterwizard> do I double click it on the file manger?
[17:39] <w30> Balaji_TVR, in a terminal type: sudo find / -name C++Annotation-pdf -print     then cd to that directory in your file manager and click on it
[17:39] <Monsterwizard> sudo "Enter path address" run?
[17:39] <ePlus> theadmin: thanks for the reply. i have installed wicd but it says no available networks
[17:39] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Just the way I wrote it, that's all
[17:39] <theadmin> ePlus: Okay, that's weird, does "iwlist wlan0 scan" return anything?
[17:39] <batouzo> damn.. how to install Flash on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[17:40] <theadmin> !flash | batouzo
[17:40] <Monsterwizard> theadmin sorry I've lost you
[17:40] <batouzo> simply following firefox suggestion is not working
[17:40] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: Run that in the terminal you had opened
[17:40] <ePlus> theadmin: should i remove gnome network manager before using wicd?
[17:40] <Monsterwizard> yes how do I run that file
[17:40] <theadmin> ePlus: No, you should just shut it down
[17:40] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: *sigh* Type the command I gave you just now
[17:40] <GirlyGirl> batouzo: Any reason to not be on 11.04
[17:40] <theadmin> Monsterwizard: sudo ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
[17:41] <ePlus> is it a service that i should stop?
[17:41] <theadmin> ePlus: Yeah, dig around /etc/init for the name, I always forget it as it has some weird capitalization
[17:42] <batouzo> GirlyGirl: 11.04 sucks
[17:42] <ePlus> theadmin: "network-manager", network-interface-security and network-interface
[17:43] <batouzo> radeon driver problems. strange UI (yes I know it can be disabled), many glitches (seen on computers that do use 11.04)
[17:43] <ePlus> network-manager you reckon?
[17:43] <ePlus> yep
[17:43] <batouzo> theadmin:   do I need to  "Enable the Third-party software repository" on 10.10 ?
[17:43] <ePlus> that was the one
[17:43] <Monsterwizard> thanks theadmin it's loading
[17:43] <GirlyGirl> batouzo: 11.10 is coming soon and then 10.10 is close to EOL
[17:43] <Monsterwizard> was that the hard bit?
[17:43] <Balaji_TVR> w30, Thank you. I've installed many help/doc package for c++ or linux and etc. So to open those doc file, is there any better way to open in some unified interface? or only way is to search? The problem in search is I would not no the exact file name as I install those as packages.
[17:44] <theadmin> batouzo: Yeah
[17:44] <ePlus> theadmin: iwlist wlan0 outputs no scan results
[17:45] <batouzo> GirlyGirl: I can only hope it will be better... I will see once it's released.
[17:45] <theadmin> ePlus: Weird... Sounds like a driver problem
[17:45] <ePlus> though there were scan results in the gnome network manager???
[17:45] <batouzo> theadmin: realy? because I can install that package
[17:45] <batouzo> I did installed:
[17:45] <Monsterwizard> ok done
[17:45] <GirlyGirl> batouzo: There are many other ways if you dislike Unity, ... KDE, Gnome-shell, XFCE ...
[17:45] <batouzo> i   flashplugin-installer
[17:45] <glebihan> Balaji_TVR, some of that documentation may be available in devhelp
[17:46] <batouzo> and despite it being installed (and restarting firefox) still youtube.com vids do not play. Why so?
[17:46] <GirlyGirl> ePlus: its iwlist scan
[17:46] <Monsterwizard> so how do I now make the screen true full screen
[17:47] <w30> Balaji_TVR, most linux distros have a doc or docs folder somewhere. mine is /usr/share/doc
[17:47] <batouzo> I have installed       i   flashplugin-installer    (and restarting firefox)  -- but still youtube.com vids do not play.  What can be wrong?
[17:47] <Balaji_TVR> yep, for me too the same but I see several 100s of folder for everything
[17:48] <Dolev> test
[17:49] <Balaji_TVR> w30: yep, for me too the same but I see several 100s of folders for everything.  Would like to know is there any better editor to open the wanted one in organized way. Something similar to MSDN editor.
[17:50] <w30> Balaji_TVR,  also man  <command> or info <command> will acces documentation
[17:51] <batouzo> anyone knows how to really install flash in 10.10 ?
[17:52] <w30> Balaji_TVR, apropos <subject> is a good fishing command to lead  to something more
[17:52] <liar> hi, i dont know if this is the right place to ask but you might know... i am looking for good audio recording and editing software but can't find anything which is sufficient for my needs :(
[17:52] <robotti^> does anybody know, how to disable touchpad on ultranav keyboard?
[17:53] <robotti^> I love trackpoint, but touchpad is terrible.
[17:54] <Balaji_TVR> w30, Thank you. I have located the folder and the installed file name is "cplusplusus.pdf". So, after manual search in the whole doc folder, I have found the file name to open. Hence, at first place, without knowing the file name one could not search too.
[17:54] <theadmin> robotti^: There should be a key (often a fn-key) for that
[17:54] <batouzo> does flash work at ubuntu 10.10 now?
[17:54] <ljsdofuynsdfufuh> I sent a 7zip file to someone who uses ubuntu and they say the ubuntu 7zip command "p7zip" doesn't have an "x" option (which is how I extract them)...
[17:54] <batouzo> in firefox
[17:54] <theadmin> ljsdofuynsdfufuh: The command is "7z" actually
[17:54] <cm1nus> im here to ea brains
[17:55] <cm1nus> *eat
[17:55] <robotti^> theadmin: cool?
[17:55] <cm1nus> i hear thers a lot of brains in here
[17:55] <robotti^> theadmin: no there is not
[17:55] <theadmin> robotti^: Okay, well...
[17:55] <bazhang> cm1nus, wrong place
[17:55] <Balaji_TVR> w30, the installed package name is "c++annotation-pdf" and the file name what I see and required is "cplusplus.pdf". I could succeed only after manual search. I would like to know is there any better way to locate through nice help/doc interface.
[17:55] <Xarn_> cm1nus ##c
[17:55] <robotti^> theadmin: I just try xinput
[17:56] <theadmin> robotti^: gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled --type=bool false
[17:56] <w30> Balaji_TVR, and don't forget system help in the menu
[17:56] <robotti^> theadmin: but when I disabled, it disabled also trackpoint
[17:56] <cm1nus> sorry im not regietered derp
[17:57] <bazhang> cm1nus, actual ubuntu support question?
[17:57] <robotti^> theadmin: that does not do nothing
[17:57] <cm1nus> my apt-get doesnt work why is this?
[17:57] <Pici> Balaji_TVR: dpkg -L c++annotation-pdf
[17:57] <cm1nus> and also firefox it keeps crashing
[17:57] <cm1nus> i cand play youtube
[17:57] <bazhang> !work | cm1nus
[17:57] <ljsdofuynsdfufuh> theadmin: so "7z x [filename]" works on ubuntu with p7zip package installed?
[17:57] <cm1nus> hapl pls
[17:57] <theadmin> ljsdofuynsdfufuh: Should.
[17:58] <robotti^> theadmin: Instantly?
[17:58] <robotti^> there is stil touchpad
[17:58] <robotti^> should I reboot?
[17:58] <w30> Balaji_TVR, too many  different help and doc schemes exist for Linux, that I agree too.
[17:59] <theadmin> robotti^: Hm, I think not
[17:59] <robotti^> theadmin: what then
[17:59] <theadmin> robotti^: Probably that's some old setting, sorry, not sure then
[17:59] <batouzo> theadmin: I had to deinstall falsh and instead install adome-something
[18:00] <w30> Balaji_TVR, after you install a program or app you can query Synaptic to see what installed. decs, executables, etc
[18:00] <Balaji_TVR> w30, the cmd "dpkg -L c++annotations-pdf" says the package is not installed but Synaptic shows that its installed and I could manually see those files too.
[18:00] <robotti^> theadmin: http://dpaste.com/629018/
[18:02] <Balaji_TVR> w30, from there only "installed-files tab" I was able to locate the folder and files installed
[18:02] <robotti^> theadmin: http://dpaste.com/629020/
[18:03] <glebihan> Balaji_TVR, since every application is free to put documentation wherever it wants on the system (even if it's usually in /usr/share/doc /usr/share/gtk-doc /usr/share/doc-base or similar) and to use whatever file format it wants to distribute the documentation, there isn't a unified interface which will allow you to browse all the documentation.
[18:03] <glebihan> Balaji_TVR, you mistyped the name of the package in your command
[18:03] <glebihan> Balaji_TVR, it's c++-annotations-pd
[18:03] <glebihan> Balaji_TVR, it's c++-annotations-pdf
[18:03] <TheLolrus> hi! I have a new computer with a sandy bridge i7 and an nvidia 460m... how do i determine which is the active card? i hear there are often issues
[18:03] <robotti^> theadmin: what you think about, what is wrong with that?
[18:04] <w30> Balaji_TVR, case is very important in Linux so always check caps key *smile*
[18:05] <Balaji_TVR> w30, Thanks for correcting my topo. I could see the same what we could see via synaptic "installed-files" tab. Also I agree with you that every application can put the files under its own directory structure with its own format.
[18:05] <w30> Balaji_TVR, glebihan did that
[18:06] <Balaji_TVR> w30, what is glebihan?!
[18:06] <glebihan> that's a good question, what am I ?
[18:07] <Balaji_TVR> w30, oops, another user!
[18:07] <delinquentme> so i just d/led a tarball for GHMM .. im wondering how do I unzip and install it ?
[18:08]  * w30 thinks glebihan is an awsome bot
[18:09] <auronandace> delinquentme: ghmm?
[18:09] <auronandace> !software | delinquentme
[18:09] <m3talh3ad> hello
[18:09] <w30> Balaji_TVR, able to read minds
[18:10] <m3talh3ad> may i ask a question?
[18:10] <robotti^> nobody knows about my keyboard?
[18:10] <robotti^> okay
[18:10] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, sure, just ask, don't ask to ask
[18:10] <DustyMonk> robotti^: please put your question in one line
[18:10] <m3talh3ad> a friend of mine told that gnome is not supported by ubuntu anymore
[18:11] <w30> m3talh3ad, one
[18:11] <m3talh3ad> is that true?
[18:11] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, not at all
[18:11] <m3talh3ad> then?
[18:11] <Balaji_TVR> w30, thanks for your response.
[18:11] <DustyMonk> !gnome| m3talh3ad
[18:11] <Balaji_TVR> leave now
[18:12] <m3talh3ad> yes i know that. what i meen that in the new versions of ubuntu gnome is not the default environment
[18:12] <w30> Balaji_TVR, stick with Linux a while, it's powerful when you find out how to use it
[18:13] <auronandace> !unity | m3talh3ad
[18:13] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, well gnome is still the desktop environment, but unity is now the default shell that runs over gnome
[18:13] <AlexeyShuster> test
[18:13] <m3talh3ad> ok thank you very much
[18:14] <robotti^> DustyMonk: sorry! my question is about how to disable touchpad from my ultranav keyboard. I already use trackpoint, but I do not want use touchpad
[18:14] <Hamled> How can I force upstart to consider a job to not be running? I try sudo start mysql and it says the job is already running, but there is no mysql process
[18:14] <auronandace> m3talh3ad: bear in mind that gnome2 is no longer supported in 11.10 onwards (but gnome3 is)
[18:15] <m3talh3ad> thats not good. ia hate gnome 3
[18:15] <auronandace> m3talh3ad: doesn't affect me, i use xfce
[18:16] <m3talh3ad> auronandace: cant get used to it
[18:16] <m3talh3ad> auronandace: gnome2 lover
[18:16] <vsync_> http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/bet_my_life.jpg
[18:17] <glebihan> Hamled, if it says it's running, it probably really is. The name of the process is mysqld. If really it isn't running, then try "sudo stop mysql" and then "sudo start mysql" again
[18:17] <m3talh3ad> anyone knows where is the log for history?
[18:18] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, with gnome3 you can still use the gnome-fallback-session and gnome-panel which is very similar to gnome2
[18:18] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: thnks
[18:18] <w30> auronandace, what does one use to get a gnome2 like menu and not that god awful full screen application page or dock that splatters every where?
[18:19] <noisewaterphd> hey guys, was just upgrading a notebook from 10.10 to 11.04 using the update manager. I wasnt paying much attention to it so I do not know at which point it failed, but the machine no longer boots. anyone been down this raod?
[18:19] <io> w30: you mean, unity?
[18:19] <donald__> hy guys, this might be the wrong place to ask but here I go.... Where can I learn programming? or which network should I join to ask this question?
[18:19] <w30> io, yes or the applications menu of gnome3
[18:20] <auronandace> w30: sorry, you lost me
[18:20] <griffrez> Hello
[18:20] <ncrypter> Hey Gang, anyone know a fork of remastersys or another tool that dose the same thing, since remastersys is no longer developed
[18:20] <griffrez> I'm new here and kinda noobish to Linux.
[18:20] <io> w30: you want to use Gnome instead of Unity right? or am I misunderstanding
[18:20] <io> !classic | w30
[18:21] <griffrez> I got a small problem. I just installed Ubuntu, I decided to update it and I got to a point where the screen started freezing -> black screening -> back on, but freezing -> black screening -> back on, but freezing ... for like 10 times then it showed me lots of white text in black background.
[18:21] <griffrez> Like it had crashed on something.
[18:21] <Hamled> glebihan, I ran status on it and it turns out that it was stuck in something before it actually started the mysqld process (/bin/sh -e /proc/self/fd/10) so I was able to kill that and start it
[18:21] <griffrez> or*
[18:21] <Hamled> glebihan, thanks though :)
[18:22] <donald__>  ok then i'm in the wrong place....
[18:22] <w30> auronandace, I haven't used 11.10 so I don't know gnome3 other than fedora but that unity side launcher is awful. It take a full 30 seconds to get to the bottom icon
[18:22] <auronandace> w30: oh, i've never used unity, i use xfce
[18:22] <glebihan> Hamled, you're welcome
[18:22] <m3talh3ad> anyone knows where is the logfile for HISTORY
[18:22] <m3talh3ad> ?
[18:22] <griffrez> *bump*
[18:23] <theadmin> m3talh3ad: History of what?
[18:23] <griffrez> :(
[18:23] <m3talh3ad> history the command iamean
[18:23] <ncrypter> donald__ theproblem with your question is it is very broad, just google tutorials about the language you are interested in learning and dig in
[18:23] <theadmin> m3talh3ad: ~/.bash_history
[18:23] <w30> io, I like classic with compiz although compiz only exists on my box to impress Vista7 users
[18:23] <griffrez> Oh
[18:24] <griffrez> And after the update, Ubuntu started thinking that my hardware couldn't run Unity.
[18:24] <griffrez> But it can, it was running in the beginning
[18:24] <w30> auronandace, you and Linus both, ha!
[18:24] <m3talh3ad> theadmin: i checked it but i does not seem to work with "tail -n0 -f "
[18:24] <ncrypter> SO yeah, anyone know of a tool along the lines of remastersys?
[18:24] <Gleno> Is it possible to install Ubuntu through windows without CDs or USB keys? I have an empty harddrive that I want project Ubuntu on... Doable?
[18:24] <donald__> ncrypter, I did but most of them tell you you should buy a book and stuff, I stubbled upon a site once where you could learn in some kind of web based "game"
[18:24] <siavashserver> griffrez, reinstall drivers
[18:25] <siavashserver> ?
[18:25] <auronandace> w30: i've never liked gnome2 though
[18:25] <donald__> ncrypter, but I can't find the website anymore
[18:25] <griffrez> siavash, I never installed drivers, to start off
[18:25] <griffrez> I started Ubuntu for the first time
[18:25] <griffrez> Started updating
[18:25] <griffrez> And got that problem
[18:25] <Pici> !enter
[18:25] <griffrez> It crashed
[18:25] <ncrypter> donald__ what language are you interested in pm me
[18:25] <griffrez> Sorry, ubottu
[18:25] <griffrez> (probably a bot... but still.)
[18:26] <donald__> ncrypter, how do I do that, sorry, new to xchat :s
[18:26] <griffrez> I'm doing the "Partial Upgrade" it is telling me to do.
[18:26] <siavashserver> griffrez, which card? and which drivers? (open source iguess)
[18:26] <bil21al> what is the channel of ubuntu  friendly dquard?
[18:26] <bil21al> squard
[18:26] <griffrez> Siavash, my GPU is an ATI Radeon HD 4770. Drivers... the ones that come with Ubuntu's installation.
[18:27] <w30> auronandace, when you use xfce do you get all those gnome-whatever gui configure apps
[18:27] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, no it doesn't work with tail -f because the history is only written at the end of the bash process (ie when you quit the terminal)
[18:27] <siavashserver> griffrez, try installing prop drivers
[18:28] <auronandace> w30: not sure what you are referring to, xfce has its own settings
[18:28] <griffrez> siavashserver: I once had a small problem with prop drivers a little time ago
[18:28] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: i want to make a script that logs history to another file
[18:28] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: do you have any suggestions?
[18:28] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, just copy the file ?
[18:28] <griffrez> I installed it, and on the boot, Linux was outputting a video signal that my monitor could not interpret.
[18:28] <w30> auronandace, fine, that answers me
[18:28] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: no
[18:28] <siavashserver> griffrez, no issues here. catalyst 11.8 + radeonhd 4890
[18:29] <delinquentme> so im trying to run a file called autogen.sh ... from terminal ... i did a LS .. and the file is *clearly* present in the current directory
[18:29] <griffrez> siavashserver: I think it has to do with the refresh rate my monitors give out to understand it can stand.
[18:29] <delinquentme> but when i type in autogen.sh and hit enter
[18:29] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: reads the output of the command history, and logs it in real time in the file i want
[18:29] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, you can't
[18:29] <delinquentme> http://pastie.org/2651053 << this
[18:30] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: ok thnks. i will check it out with python maybe
[18:30] <griffrez> siavashserver: Then the driver starts sending signal at that RR that is not supported, crashing video signal.
[18:30] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, what do you mean "check it out with python" ?
[18:30] <griffrez> I tried using the drivers that you can get on ATI's website itself and it worked
[18:30] <siavashserver> griffrez, with opensource drivers?
[18:30] <siavashserver> those issues ^
[18:31] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: i mean that i will write something in python. sorry my english is not very good
[18:31] <griffrez> siavashserver: I had that problem with the drivers that come up with the Linux GUI
[18:31] <griffrez> When it shows "Want to install proprietary drivers, closed-source, blah blah"
[18:31] <griffrez> When I say eys
[18:31] <griffrez> yes*
[18:31] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, I got that, but what do you to do with python ?
[18:31] <griffrez> To enabled them, they crash the signal in the next bootup
[18:32] <griffrez> My monitor then reports that the signal is on a refresh rate not supported by it.
[18:32] <glebihan> m3talh3ad, whatever language you use you won't be able to access commands in real-time unless you modify bash itself
[18:32] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: i am gonna find a way to do this with python. dont know exactly what, yet
[18:32] <m3talh3ad> glebihan: ok i wiil keep that in mind
[18:33] <Lerrick> can i use any cpanel for ubuntu?
[18:34] <w30> griffrez, eys, I thought you were Canadian for a second. err.... that's "ahe" I quess.Sorry
[18:35] <KeyLimePi> Anyone here work with nvidia cards on Ubuntu?
[18:35] <angel28> Hello, Need help :) I've set up 2 pop3 email accounts using Evolution client, but the problem all mail is dropped into the inbox, so I would like to create 2 folders for each email account and let the mail divide between the folders according to the accounts is that possible ?
[18:38] <drumbug1> quit
[18:38] <Swern> i want to  echo   00-00  | 00-01 | 00-02  ....  to 09-FE  09-FF;   what is best way to do this do this in bash
[18:38]  * drumbug1 smacks head
[18:39] <w30> KeyLimePi, all I did was install the Ubuntu Nvidia drivers by enabling the restricted drivers in the Synaptic repos
[18:39] <KittyGirl> Swern: ShoeTerminal
[18:39] <ljsdofuynsdfufuh> anyone here boot a live ubuntu disk on their macbook pro?
[18:39] <Pici> Swern: #bash would be a better place to ask.
[18:39] <ljsdofuynsdfufuh> It isn't working for me
[18:39] <KeyLimePi> w30: Ah, okay.  I had no problems installing the drivers. Im just trying to ascertain why my 3D program insists that it cant use the stereo buffer of my vid  card
[18:40] <diesel> quit
[18:40] <GirlyGirl> ljsdofuynsdfufuh: it works in bios emulation mode
[18:40] <ljsdofuynsdfufuh> what dat?
[18:40] <ljsdofuynsdfufuh> GirlyGirl: how is it selected, etc?
[18:40] <diesel> exit
[18:40] <diesel> part
[18:41] <KeyLimePi> diesel: I think you must type a / before the word quit
[18:41] <diesel> thx
[18:41] <g0rs> diesel: type /part
[18:41] <GirlyGirl> ljsdofuynsdfufuh: http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook/DebianInstallTutorial#MacBook_installation_prerequisites
[18:42] <w30> KeyLimePi, stereo buffer is a video card issue? I would have thought of sound problem with that error. That shows you what I know eh?
[18:42] <shai27> Hello,I don't know if someone replay to my questions becuase the line went off, I've added 2 pop3 email account under Evolution client and the problem both emails are going to the same place (inbox) I would like to create a seperated folders for each email so the email will be divide into the folders according to the accounts is that possible ?
[18:43] <KeyLimePi> w30: Yeah. I dont know why its not working now. Only noticed it cuz I tried to render out some shapes in Maya.  Then  I got this error: Warning: Unable to get OpenGL visual with a stereo buffer, trying without //.
[18:43] <ljsdofuynsdfufuh> So the "Try Ubuntu" option on the live disk doesn't work on my macbook pro - is it supposed to?
[18:44] <zelozelos> if i change my swap area will it effect booting? i get a warning in gparted but thought it was unlikely because im only changing the swap
[18:45] <zelozelos> and all im wanting to do is reclaim some unused space thats b4 and after it (increasing the size by about 1.5gb to get rid of unused space
[18:45] <delinquentme> does this make sense to anyone?  http://pastie.org/2651053  <, this file is clearly there .. but im unable to run it as a command?
[18:46] <organiks> hey all
[18:46] <fritsch> delinquentme: ./autogen.sh
[18:46] <delinquentme> nice!
[18:47] <organiks> could someone tell me why i cant connect to network drives over my lan via samba but im able to ping them?
[18:47] <zelozelos> organiks, tunneling?
[18:47] <fritsch> organiks: does it ask for a password? ping != sbm
[18:47] <fritsch> organiks: smb
[18:47] <ewaldmire> organiks: that could be a lot of things - share permissions, perhaps?
[18:48] <organiks> zelozelos: network drive
[18:48] <organiks> fritsch : no password just says opening, then unable to mount
[18:48] <ljsdofuynsdfufuh> so who here has a macbook?
[18:48] <zelozelos> if i change the size of swap will it messup the boot, hd is setup (ntfs, ext3) (ext3, free space, swap freespace) i just want to reclaim the free space
[18:49] <fritsch> organiks: hard to diagnose
[18:49] <organiks> ewaldmire: how do i check the permissions
[18:49] <fritsch> zelozelos: should work, but be careful not to create too many primary partitions
[18:49] <fritsch> zelozelos: and backup your data
[18:49] <organiks> i did "sudo testparm" and everything came back
[18:49] <organiks> ok
[18:49] <ewaldmire> organiks: check through /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:50] <organiks> would it show me the workgroup there?
[18:50] <ewaldmire> wait sorry - are the shares on a SAMBA server, or a Windows box?
[18:50] <organiks> both boxes running u11.04 64bit
[18:50] <organiks> with samba installed
[18:50] <ewaldmire> ok - check through /etc/samba/smb.conf on the box that's hosting the shares
[18:51] <ewaldmire> also check the file permissions (ls -l) to make sure they are accessible to the correct users/groups
[18:51] <ramy_d> my server boots without enabling eth0. Simply running sudo ifconfig eth0 up fixes the problem, but i need the server to start it automatically on boot. if i put the command in /etc/rc.local will this fix my problem?
[18:52] <ewaldmire> organiks: look into smbclient (man smbclient) for testing
[18:52] <organiks> k
[18:54] <Stefano91> salve a tutti
[18:55] <zelozelos> well i guess that will work for now, looks like a full format is in order for me, 2 many partitions, all started when  i shrunk the windows partitoin to install win 8 to check it out all of a sudden i had 2 swaps, a 1.5mb unused spot at the end, another 5.2gb in the middle...heh poor managment on my behalf rolf
[18:55] <hertil> Hello everybody
[18:55] <hertil> I have a semi-advanced question
[18:56] <hertil> I use Ubuntu 11.04
[18:56] <hertil> I have a serious problem, and I've tried to find the solution but it's kind of advanced. I cut & paste (I should've copied) a ~20 GB folder to an external harddrive. When it was finished I unmounted, the icon disappeard, and I withdrew the USB-cable obviously too soon, because now there are only 5 files in the directory. I've tried to use scalpel but it doesn't find anything. Is there a way...
[18:56] <hertil> ...for linux to resume writing to the drive if I remount it, or is there a way to access some kind of cache where the files are. They cannot just disappear, can they?
[18:56] <FloodBot1> hertil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:56] <hertil> sorry, didn't mean to flood
[18:56] <zelozelos> hertil, so durring a install from usb you prematurely removed the usb?...start install over agin
[18:57] <hertil> no install
[18:57] <fVckingmania> good afternoon !!
[18:57] <hertil> I copied a directory with images from my home directory to an external device
[18:57] <hertil> sorry
[18:57] <hertil> I moved it
[18:58] <fVckingmania> I need to remove the permisions to a user in a folder, how can I do that???
[18:58] <zelozelos> hertil, i think it should still exist at the orig, if u used drag n drop that is it dont actually "move" it ends up just copying
[18:58] <BarkingFish> hertil: so I understand you correctly?  You moved a folder by using cut & paste, and removed your usb too early, now the file is incomplete on the target machine, and gone from the source, correct?
[18:58] <sajimon> hertil: sorry to hear, have you tried to fsck this filesystem?
[18:59] <hertil> BarkingFish: exactly
[18:59] <Swern> i want to  echo   00-00 to 00-FF  then 01-00 to 01-FF  up to  09-FF   what is best way to do this in bash
[18:59] <zelozelos> hertil, if you deleted the orig you can try and recover deleted data...but its a long shot esp if the files were big
[19:00] <zelozelos> hertil, try paste again
[19:00] <nronksr> I need a GUI password input response for ssh.  What program is that called?
[19:00] <hertil> all the files together were about 20-30 GB, I CUT the directory, so paste again won't work
[19:00] <egc> hi, is there a command i can use to test two has values for equality?
[19:00] <egc> hash values, i mean
[19:01] <BarkingFish> hertil, it should hold the file in clipboard, in theory you should be able to paste more than once...
[19:01] <hertil> BarkingFish: You cannot past two times if you cut the file
[19:01] <BarkingFish> hm.
[19:01] <hertil> but the files cannot disappear, they should be in some kind of cache somewhere
[19:02] <hertil> right?
[19:02] <zelozelos> hertil, the cache is emptied once the operation is complete
[19:02] <BarkingFish> hertil, I can do this here.
[19:02] <zelozelos> you might be able to recover the deleted files but its a long shot
[19:02] <hertil> yeah but obviously it wasn't completed, since files aren't on the other drive
[19:02] <BarkingFish> I can cut a file, paste to somewhere.  Go back and paste again, and get asked if I wish to overwrite it
[19:02] <hertil> hmm
[19:03] <zelozelos> hertil, and the longer you wait..the more stuff gets over written
[19:03] <hertil> zelozelos: I know, I already tried scalpel to recover the files but I cannot find them among those files
[19:03] <Mowhay> Hello.
[19:03] <hertil> BarkingFish: That option is greyed out for me
[19:04] <zelozelos> hertil, its prob too late then i hope theres another option, but is beyond me
[19:04] <BarkingFish> Dang.
[19:04] <KillerMask> Hey guys
[19:04] <hertil> the thing is Ubuntu said it was finished
[19:04] <hertil> that's why I unmounted
[19:05] <hertil> but then it said error, since it was still writing somehow
[19:05] <BarkingFish> It's finished leaving the source, the target may take some time to catch up.
[19:05] <zelozelos> strange, if u unmounted b4 removing it it should have completed any actions 1st
[19:05] <BarkingFish> depends on the transfer rate to the target device
[19:05] <KillerMask> If you need any help just this out http://www.youtube.com/user/themaskappshacks
[19:06] <hertil> BarkingFish: Yeah I've got that... It obviously wasn't finished but the rest of the files have to be somewhere, no? Like in a buffer or something
[19:06] <BarkingFish> hertil, is the target device now plugged in again?
[19:06] <hertil> yes
[19:06] <BarkingFish> and it's mounted too?
[19:06] <hertil> yes
[19:06] <BarkingFish> I'll see if I can find some form of cache, it must go somewhere.
[19:07] <BarkingFish> there must be information on the net about this
[19:07] <hertil> BarkingFish: Yeah, I've searched but cannot find anything concrete, just something with a file buffer but not how to access it
[19:08] <KillerMask> http://www.youtube.com/user/themaskappshacks
[19:08] <hertil> BarkingFish: But I appreciate your help
[19:08] <BarkingFish> give me a few moments, hertil - I'm looking :)
[19:10] <BarkingFish> this might help you a little, hertil - I know you didn't delete the files, but this may prove useful
[19:10] <BarkingFish> cut is effective delete from the source, no?
[19:10] <BarkingFish> hertil, http://www.ehow.com/how_2064953_recover-deleted-files-linux.html
[19:14] <nronksr> fyi: ssh-askpass is the package
[19:14] <hertil> BarkingFish: I will try it, but I already tried scalpel but maybe that program isn't any good? It didn't find the files which I cut so that was weird. But I don't dare to shut down the computer if there is indeed a buffer.
[19:15] <BarkingFish> i'm testing those instructions against my own installation, hertil.  I have cut files before, I will see if this finds them
[19:15] <hertil> ok thanks
[19:16] <zelozelos> ok now i have ntfs, (extended ext 4, swap, unused) the unused is now 1.02 mib...how do i get rid of it?
[19:17] <zelozelos> resizing the swap area to take the unused space wont work, i guess 1.02 mib is too small for the changes?
[19:17] <lllllqqqqq> !ops
[19:17] <zelozelos> should i delete the swap partition then re-make the swap partition?
[19:17] <Pici> lllllqqqqq: yes?
[19:19] <zelozelos> nope cant do that bc im using the extended partition (ext4, swap, unallo)
[19:19] <zelozelos> well at least i got rid of 3 useless partitions
[19:20] <delinquentme> any thoughts on this :  make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
[19:21] <zelozelos> delinquentme, sudo make install ;)
[19:21] <zelozelos> err 1 is permissions if i remember correctly
[19:21] <delinquentme> yeah still same error =/
[19:22] <zelozelos> what are you compiling delinquentme ?
[19:22] <delinquentme> ghmm
[19:22] <aragorn5> hi
[19:22] <delinquentme> http://ghmm.sourceforge.net/installation.html
[19:22] <aragorn5> any other channels on the server?
[19:24] <K350> Any command line tool to see when a file was created.? "Stat" only shows access"
[19:25] <zelozelos> long list view i think shows that info
[19:26] <aragorn5> i have a question about running tor
[19:26] <K350> Is that the name of the tool?
[19:26] <K350> aragorn5: shoot
[19:27] <delinquentme> and here is whats going on when i "sudo make install"
[19:28] <KillerMask> http://www.youtube.com/user/themaskappshacks
[19:29] <bazhang> KillerMask, dont advertise please
[19:30] <BarkingFish> finally :) Someone told him off. He's been doing that for nearly a half hour :)
[19:30] <Ben64> and its all about windows
[19:31] <hertil> BarkingFish: Any luck?
[19:31] <LindaLoveLace> im having a brain fart, what are those buttons on top called? minimize, maximize, close
[19:31] <BarkingFish> I can't get it to work here, maybe because my fs isn't supported
[19:31] <BarkingFish> The disk I'm testing it on hertil is ntfs
[19:31] <BarkingFish> and it only supports linux fs types - maybe you could try it and see if it works on your file system
[19:32] <BarkingFish> i only have one other linux disk, and i can't umount that or i'll kill my system :)
[19:32] <aragorn5> K350, after i do $ sudo /etc/init.d/tor start
[19:32] <aragorn5> i get:   [warn] Permissions on directory /var/run/tor are too permissive.
[19:32] <aragorn5> Oct 06 18:39:51.912 [warn] Before Tor can create a control socket in "/var/run/tor/control", the directory "/var/run/tor" needs to exist, and to be accessible only by the user and group account that is running Tor.  (On some Unix systems, anybody who can list a socket can conect to it, so Tor is being careful.)
[19:33] <hertil> BarkingFish: I see, I would love to check but since I tested with scalpel which should recover deleted files I am kind of scared, since the program didn't find my files, but that's odd, it should work logically... You didn't find anything about continuing the buffer or something?
[19:33] <LindaLoveLace> aragorn5: please use pastebin.
[19:33] <BarkingFish> hertil, not immediately, no.  This was the first thing I find.  If scalpel can't get them, you can't do any worse than try this, hertil
[19:33] <LindaLoveLace> aragorn5: my apologizes, thought you were spaming a whole list.
[19:34] <ChrisOnNode> Hi there!
[19:34] <hertil> BarkingFish: True, but I'm afraid that if there is a cache, it will be erased if I log out, since I need to unmount my /home partition
[19:34] <LindaLoveLace> im having a brain fart, what are those buttons on top called? minimize, maximize, close?
[19:34] <markitoxs> does anyone know a workaround for the VPN issues?
[19:34] <ChrisOnNode> I need to create a script that is running as www-data, how can I do that ?
[19:36] <w30> LindaLoveLace, would you accept Window Buttons?
[19:36] <fritsch> ChrisOnNode: does it have to run once? or regularly?
[19:36] <LindaLoveLace> w30: true enough hahaha, thanks!
[19:36] <BarkingFish> that's a thought... one moment hertil, i may have an answer :)
[19:36] <fritsch> ChrisOnNode: su -c myScript.sh www-data
[19:36] <sparrowminer> ciao
[19:37] <fritsch> ChrisOnNode: startet as root user
[19:37] <BarkingFish> guys, ubuntu'ers - am I right in remembering that the dd command has a rescue option?
[19:37] <fritsch> BarkingFish: nope
[19:37] <BarkingFish> :(
[19:37] <fritsch> BarkingFish: it just copys stuff bytewise
[19:37] <LindaLoveLace> im having a problem when dragging windows from one window to another it stops at the window buttons
[19:37] <fritsch> BarkingFish: you broke something?
[19:38] <BarkingFish> i didn't, fritsch - hertil has a problem
[19:38] <fritsch> BarkingFish: you can rescue something if yo backupped before
[19:38] <fritsch> BarkingFish: what has he done with dd?
[19:38] <ChrisOnNode> It need to be started by any user on the system and it needs to run on demand.
[19:38] <BarkingFish> fritsch, they transferred by cut and paste a folder from a source drive to external hdd, but removed the usb when ubuntu said it was finished...
[19:38] <BarkingFish> but it wasn't.
[19:38] <ChrisOnNode> It is a script that run a svn update on a specific folder.
[19:39] <Ben64> sounds like a security problem
[19:39] <rebeccam> #/join millsfamily
[19:39] <Ben64> you should find a better way to do that
[19:39] <fritsch> BarkingFish: the did not correctly umount the drive?
[19:39] <BarkingFish> fritsch, the result is that he has a reduced file on the target disk, and the file had gone from the source disk
[19:39] <fritsch> BarkingFish: i do not see that dd can help here
[19:39] <BarkingFish> fritsch, yes he did.  He umounted and removed the drive, but it came up with an error.  The buffer was still writing to the target USB disk
[19:40] <fritsch> BarkingFish: mmh, that seems bad luck
[19:40] <Ben64> if you delete a while while its being accessed, you can save it using /proc
[19:40] <BarkingFish> so now, the file hangs in nothingness, and we're trying to locate ways to access the buffer before it's overwritten
[19:41] <Ben64> http://www.hackinglinuxexposed.com/articles/20020507.html
[19:41] <Database> Odd problem: On a liveCD of the Oneiric beta2, I can enable two-finger scrolling, but it doesn't work. The same option works fine on Arch with a bog standard install.
[19:41] <oCean> Database: Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released (still beta). Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[19:42] <Database> ah, apologies
[19:42] <fritsch> Ben64: very cool
[19:44] <fritsch> Ben64: i wonder about the last fact, the security issue
[19:44] <fritsch> Ben64: i think an admin first looks at ps aux
[19:44] <LindaLoveLace> im having a problem when dragging windows from one window to another it stops at the window buttons
[19:44] <fritsch> Ben64: before he is searching through every directory for "an unknown" file
[19:44] <LindaLoveLace> from one monitor to another monitor (dual screen)
[19:45] <fritsch> LindaLoveLace: try on the other side :-)
[19:45] <LindaLoveLace> fritsch: how do i change the buttons to the other side again?
[19:46] <fritsch> LindaLoveLace: this has nothing to do with your first question
[19:46] <fritsch> LindaLoveLace: if you move the window out the other side of your screen, does it work there?
[19:46] <fritsch> LindaLoveLace: meaning left and right is switched?
[19:48] <philcostin> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=258491740859939&set=o.188046354556748&type=1&ref=nf
[19:48] <philcostin> oops wrong window :/
[19:48] <LindaLoveLace> fritsch: actually i just fixed it had to change some settings in a monitor option
[19:48] <fritsch> LindaLoveLace: jep - wanted to show you that
[19:48] <w30> LindaLoveLace, ftp://98.213.59.214/pub/left_window_buttons.txt
[19:48] <aragorn5> LindaLoveLace, http://pastebin.com/39np3VgT
[19:49] <griffrez> Hello.
[19:49] <griffrez> Hello :)
[19:51] <silence_> Hello
[19:51] <tbocs> hi
[19:51] <hertil> BarkingFish: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_admin/buffer-cache.html
[19:51] <tbocs> really looking forward to contributing ... where to get started though?
[19:52] <hertil> BarkingFish: This is what I meant, but I cannot figure out how to access it, before it is overwritten
[19:52] <ChrisOnNode> Is it not possible to do that ?
[19:52] <oCean> !participate | tbocs
[19:52] <BarkingFish> hertil
[19:52] <tbocs> thx
[19:53] <cordoval> how it was to fix windows manager for ubuntu?
[19:53] <BarkingFish> try man bdflush, hertil - see if that has any ideas
[19:53] <cordoval> what command? my borders are gone
[19:54] <griffrez> Hello
[19:54] <griffrez> Can someone assist me? :)
[19:55] <MontgoDB> griffrez: just ask, don't ask to ask.
[19:55] <BarkingFish> !details | griffrez
[19:55] <c03> hi, anyone using ironhide?
[19:55] <hertil> BarkingFish: sync or fsync seem to do stuff that are interesting but honestly I don't dare to use it without knowing that it is exactly what I want
[19:55] <hertil> BarkingFish: can you take a look?
[19:55] <c03> It configured successfully and is running, but my VT 8 is empty
[19:55] <BarkingFish> i've looked, hertil... I'll see the man for sync and check it
[19:56] <griffrez> Well. I'm trying to install Java 1.7.0. What kind of package should I use for x64 version, and how to install that package?
[19:56] <c03> do I have to close my x session on VT 7 first ??
[19:56] <silence_> Sorry for offtop =) I have a question about virtualbox and com ports. There is a lineedit labeled "path" inside vbox com-ports options. Does it mean that i can work from guest os with device, that i have chosen there, as connected to com-port? I mean, can i emulate usb-connected mouse(for example) as com-connected?
[19:56] <griffrez> I'm kinda of a Linux Noob... Sorry. :)
[19:56] <MontgoDB> I accidentally installed x86 version instead of x86_64, is there any way I can just upgrade online on top of it instead of re-installing from a CD?
[19:56] <Wurstmensch> hello there!
[19:56] <xangua> MontgoDB: clear install
[19:56] <oCean> silence_: try #vbox channel
[19:57] <silence_> oCean> thx, ill try)
[19:57] <LindaLoveLace> griffrez: you could try Software-Centre
[19:57] <MontgoDB> xangua: requiring a format?
[19:57] <griffrez> Does the Software Centre have Java 7?
[19:57] <LindaLoveLace> griffrez: venter*
[19:57] <Wurstmensch> anyone know his way around samba?
[19:57] <LindaLoveLace> griffrez: bahh - Software Center*
[19:57] <BarkingFish> hertil - it looks like all you do is open a terminal and type sync  in it.
[19:58] <griffrez> LindaLoveLace: I got what you meant the first time, but still, I can't find Java 7 on the USC.
[19:58] <BarkingFish> Apparently it's supposed to flush the memory, delayed reads and writes, etc, to wherever they were going
[19:58] <hertil> BarkingFish: nothing happened
[19:58] <LindaLoveLace> griffrez: im not sure, i think only J6
[19:58] <cordoval> how to recover my window borders?
[19:58] <cordoval> window manager in ubuntu is gone
[19:58] <cordoval> how to fix it with a command?
[19:58] <griffrez> LindaLoveLace: Even Java 6, there's no Java distribution from Oracle itself.
[19:59] <LindaLoveLace> griffrez: im 100% sure i've seen Java 6 in USC
[19:59] <cordoval> please
[19:59] <glebihan> griffrez, the oracle distribution of Java is no longer in the repositories as far as I know
[19:59] <BarkingFish> hertil, try to cd to the device you were copying from, and run sync from there
[19:59] <MontgoDB> LindaLoveLace: probably thinking of icetea or something.
[19:59] <griffrez> Can I install stuff with .rpm or .tar.gz file type?
[19:59] <griffrez> If yes, how?
[19:59] <griffrez> =)
[19:59] <cordoval> compiz?
[19:59] <BarkingFish> so if you were on /media/whatsit,  cd /media/whatsit in the terminal, and try sync again
[20:00] <LindaLoveLace> openJDK do the same?
[20:00] <cordoval> how to run a command to fix my window borders
[20:00] <hertil> nope
[20:00] <MontgoDB> cordoval: nautilus
[20:00] <MontgoDB> or metacity
[20:00] <cordoval> they are gone after a crash, MontgoDB nautilus?
[20:00] <Arkaitz> hi
[20:00] <cordoval> so just run nautilus
[20:00] <cordoval> ok
[20:00] <griffrez> Isn't Oracle's Java for efficient?
[20:00] <BarkingFish> hertil, i'm sorry to say that I'm all out of ideas then.
[20:00] <hertil> BarkingFish: doesn't work, it doesn't seem to do anything, it's too quick... there should be stuff there I think, since the computer has been on for a while now
[20:00] <august33> is spotify 0.6.1 stable under wine for anybody?
[20:01] <BarkingFish> you could try the recovery from /proc that someone mentioned earlier
[20:01] <LindaLoveLace> august33: glad to see another fellow Spotify user ;)
[20:01] <BarkingFish> but I think you've already closed the device you were moving the file from, yes?
[20:01] <Wurstmensch> what do i have to do access or create a network with a windows7 machine? i can see the shares in the network environment from my ubuntu machine, but i can't access them (failed to mount windows share)
[20:01] <LindaLoveLace> august33: i have yet tried it on linux, so i have no idea sorry.
[20:01] <Wurstmensch> any ideas?
[20:01] <hertil> BarkingFish: What do you mean by closed?
[20:01] <BarkingFish> hertil, did you do it in a file manager, or in a terminal?
[20:02] <hertil> file manager
[20:02] <BarkingFish> have you closed that file manager down since you did the transfer?
[20:02] <august33> spotify is awesome, i just don't have premium this time
[20:02] <hertil> it was from desktop so that's not closed but of course the window with the external device closed since I unmounted
[20:03] <BarkingFish> then the chances are, hertil, it's not even recoverable from /proc
[20:03] <hertil> I see
[20:03] <BarkingFish> the proc which was doing the transfer will have shut when the device was removed and the window closed, i'd imagine
[20:04] <hertil> yes
[20:04] <ryanclancy000> How do I make it so that www-data can read folders inside www/var, I wanted to make a folder just for pictures to display
[20:04] <Wurstmensch> fuck y'all, niggers
[20:04] <BarkingFish> I think maybe, hertil - this could be a lost cause.  Unless anyone else can suggest something you could do.
[20:04] <august33> LindaLoveLace: disconnecting fb works but after 3 tracks or so freezes
[20:04] <hertil> yeah ok, then I will try to find it on the harddrive I find it really odd that 20 GB just disappears
[20:05] <aragorn5> Nobody knows what this warning in Tor means?  http://pastebin.com/39np3VgT
[20:05] <hertil> thank you for your help then
[20:05] <BarkingFish> no problem
[20:05] <BarkingFish> we can only try, hertil - I'm just sorry you lost so much data
[20:05] <BarkingFish> it's not technically lost, we just can't find it, i suppose
[20:06] <Name141> What does "encrypt home" actually do ?
[20:06] <august33> hopefully everyone having problems etc. can sign here: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/native-spotify-app-for-linux/
[20:06] <pitlimit> I just installed ubuntu 10.04 and am having problems getting my external monitor to a higher resolution . Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[20:06] <hertil> BarkingFish: can you give me a hint how I would be able to check if the files are in /proc, where should I look?
[20:07] <chriswr> hey guys , im having random crashes to a black screen with a bunch of text on it, cant move the mouse or open terminal or anything , only thing im able to do is hold down power button.  Anyone have any experience with these types of crashes?
[20:07] <BarkingFish> they'd be in a folder under /proc/PID/
[20:07] <griffrez> What is the cd order to get the terminal to go to my desktop?
[20:07] <BarkingFish> hertil, ^^
[20:07] <hertil> alright
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: cd ~/Desktop
[20:08] <BarkingFish> and since you've closed the transfer, the procedure will have gone, and you don't know what the proc number was...
[20:08] <griffrez> It gives me "/home/griffrez/desktop: no such file or directory"
[20:08] <ubutnu> hi need help with keyboard led related issue..i figured out with someone from here that the solution worked fine.since 2 weeks strange issue occuring..led goes on like it should after some seconds it goes off and following message in kern.log http://pastebin.com/4znWChSL
[20:08] <BarkingFish> griffrez, try /home/griffrez/Desktop
[20:08] <genii-around> griffrez: Uppercase D on "Desktop"
[20:08] <hertil> BarkingFish: would the files have the same names? wouldn't it work with like ls -R | grep filename ?
[20:09] <BarkingFish> the local folders names are case sensitive, griffrez :)
[20:09] <griffrez> Oh
[20:09] <griffrez> That's pretty picky :3
[20:09] <griffrez> But thanks
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: linux is VERY case sensitive
[20:09] <griffrez> OK
[20:09] <BarkingFish> hertil, I've no idea to tell truth.  I don't dabble much into the terminal
[20:10] <BarkingFish> This is about the limit of what I can suggest for you :)
[20:10] <griffrez> I'm trying to install Java 1.7, using the .tar.gz that was on Oracle's repository
[20:10] <griffrez> I was able to extract it to a folder
[20:10] <griffrez> Now
[20:10] <griffrez> How can I actually install it? :P
[20:10] <w30> Desktop is capital D
[20:10] <BarkingFish> !enter | griffrez
[20:10] <griffrez> Sorry
[20:10] <griffrez> Kind of a habit
[20:10] <BarkingFish> np
[20:10] <griffrez> And I'm kinda in a rush.
[20:10] <ubutnu> noone able to help?
[20:10] <griffrez> :P
[20:10] <BarkingFish> brb
[20:11] <zaxonspox> hello, how to disable auto sliding in eye of gnome?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: use the .run file instead
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: mark it as executable and run it
[20:11] <BarkingFish> ubutnu, It looks to me like you have a loose connection in your usb keyboard
[20:12] <BarkingFish> it looks to be disconnecting and reconnecting
[20:12] <griffrez> ActionParsnip: Where do I get that .run file?
[20:12] <chriswr> if i have a system crash will the last thing in the call trace be the problem?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: www.java.com
[20:12] <ubutnu> barkingfish i also though of this but i have checked and its not doing that the whole time..only when i activate led light
[20:12] <griffrez> ActionParsnip: Are you sure you aren't redirecting me to Java 1.6?
[20:12] <griffrez> Because I want 1.7
[20:12] <ubutnu> BarkingFish, i also switched usb ports
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: not sure where that comes form
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> *from
[20:12] <BarkingFish> ubutnu, have you thought maybe the led connections to the board are faulty?
[20:13] <griffrez> And on Oracle repository, there's only .rpm and .tar.gz files
[20:13] <griffrez> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-se-jdk-7-download-432154.html
[20:13] <BarkingFish> it could be internal fault, rather than the actual keyboard to pc wiring
[20:13] <BarkingFish> brb
[20:13] <OerHeks> griffrez, maybe this page is better help for java 7 >> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[20:14] <ubutnu> BarkingFish, ok but in windows its working fine..so i excluded hardware..and it worked fine btu since 2 weeks its not working anymore
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: let me download and see what's what
[20:15] <griffrez> I'm pretty happy that lots of keyboard shortcuts and other stuff are quite similar to Windows'
[20:17] <m477> is it possible to check how many CPU time I have used since I logged?
[20:17] <genii-around> m477: uptime   usually
[20:18] <m477> genii-around: do you know which value is it?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: I just installed java using that file, symlinked to /opt/jdk1.7.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: after I extracted the file into /opt
[20:19] <m477> genii-around: a i see in man uptime it is written
[20:19] <m477> and the system load averages for the past 1, 5,
[20:19] <m477>        and 15 minutes.
[20:19] <m477> just
[20:19] <griffrez> ActionParsnip: What file type did you get?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: the jdk-7-linux-i586.tar.gz  filename
[20:20] <karen_m> i enabled 'automatically logon' for X, and i have an encrypted home dir.  Now X is hosed, how do I force it to ask me for a password or how do I fix it?
[20:20] <griffrez> So
[20:20] <ChrisOnNode> I will try again: <ChrisOnNode> I need to create a script that is running as www-data that can be runned by any user , how can I do that ?
[20:21] <griffrez> I simply extract the jdk1.7.0 file to /opt?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: it makes a folder and you can symlink the file to your browsers plugins folder, works well
[20:21] <griffrez> =o
[20:21] <sdfsdggsg> How do  I install  Ubuntu?
[20:21] <Name141> when you use 'encrypt home' does it actually encrypt the files in some sort of encryption keys?
[20:22] <griffrez> I don't really need for browsers... I was more looking for Java to play Minecraft :P
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !install | sdfsdggsg
[20:22] <griffrez> But wait
[20:22] <chriswr> i think the problem to my random crashes are caused by something to do with the computer idling for a little, in the call trace it seems to do with my rt2800usb driver , can wifi go into idle?
[20:22] <griffrez> I'm constantly typing sude instead of sudo
[20:22] <griffrez> xD
[20:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> heh
[20:24] <griffrez> This link "http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html" helped me.
[20:24] <griffrez> Thanks alot, OerHeks.
[20:24] <griffrez> I'm still a noob so I need step-by-step stuff
[20:24] <griffrez> :)
[20:25] <dockhorn> hi, i just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and my sound is really quiet...  i looked online and found suggestions i recompile the kernel.  is there a simpler way to fix it?
[20:26] <chriswr> is there a way i can change my hard drives idle process or everything?
[20:27] <OerHeks> dockhorn, maybe continue upgrade to 11.04 ?
[20:27] <griffrez> I use a headset with a mechanical wheel to control volume. I can see that it increases my sound too high or too low with every tick.
[20:27] <griffrez> I remember there was a configuration tweak to fix that
[20:27] <griffrez> But I forgot how it was.
[20:27] <dockhorn> oerheks i'd be willing to do that, but kpackagekit doesn't seem to think there is an upgrade available...  maybe i need to click some option to have it show up?
[20:28] <w30> dockhorn, all sound? there is volume settings for system sounds aside from the main volume control
[20:28] <OerHeks> dockhorn, check the update manager, software-sources, and see if upgrade is set to normal ( bottom line )
[20:28] <dockhorn> w30: yes, all sound.  i've found the control panel and turned everything all the way up, with barely any effect
[20:30] <dockhorn> OerHeks: yep, it's set to normal.  though yesterday it didn't think there were any updates at all, now it says there are 165 updates and it's running through them.
[20:31] <dockhorn> maybe it just wanted to be rebooted a couple times. =p
[20:31] <Faustus2> pressing shift while dragging and dropping moves ONE file, how can one drag-move multiple files?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: great guide dude :)
[20:33] <griffrez> ActionParsnip: I'm getting a Error message when I try to run minecraft.jar
[20:33] <griffrez> If you can help me on that.
[20:34] <griffrez> "Faral: Read Error: Could not read or parse the JNLP file."
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: if you run:  java -version    does it say java version "1.7.0"
[20:34] <griffrez> Yes
[20:34] <snow_usa> YES
[20:34] <snow_usa> Stephen Jobs has gone
[20:34] <griffrez> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b147)
[20:34] <griffrez> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0-b17, mixed mode)
[20:35] <w30> Faustus2, draw a box around them and you will drag all of them
[20:35] <tibe> hello need help with ubuntu install
[20:36] <tibe> installing from usbstick and it only shows Loading Operating System ...  nothing happens
[20:36] <Faustus2> w30: no, sometimes it copies.. i think when you drag em to another partition
[20:36] <griffrez> Nevermind
[20:36] <griffrez> Got it running
[20:36] <griffrez> :3
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: have you looked on minecraft forums? your java is the 1.7 as you expect
[20:36] <tibe> anyone?
[20:37] <griffrez> I got it working, ActionParsnip
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: coolio
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> tibe: did you MD5 test the ISO you transferred?
[20:37] <w30> Faustus2, yes you have to delete from partition one when /after draging to partition two
[20:38] <tibe> ActionParsnip: nope. got 2 isos. tested them om 2 different sticks
[20:38] <griffrez> Works really crappy though
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> tibe: you must test them, you can statistically download an infinite number of files and never get a good one
[20:39] <w30> Faustus2, or you can cut and paste and hope Com-Ed doesn't decide to cut your power mid transfer
[20:39] <tibe> ActionParsnip: okay.
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | tibe
[20:39] <Faustus2> w30, yeah.. i wanted to drag and drop ... buhu
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> tibe: also, test your RAM using the memtest on the liveUSB
[20:40] <kuby> sera
[20:41] <griffrez> How can I run .bin files?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: mark it as executable, then run it. If its java again then copy it to /opt and run it with sudo
[20:43] <tibe> ActionParsnip: cant find a md5sum to compare it with
[20:43] <griffrez> Linux doesn't let me copy files to /opt
[20:43] <griffrez> :\
[20:44] <tibe>  oh wait found it
[20:44] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | tibe
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | tibe
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: use sudo to copy it
[20:44] <griffrez> How?
[20:44] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, For once, I beat 'ya. :D
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: HI5
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: think about it
[20:45] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, Right back at ya!
[20:45] <nixmaniack> i have ubuntu and kubuntu installed. I'm getting a tooltip in full black(fg and bg) in KDE apps. How to change that?
[20:45] <griffrez> ActionParsnip: Can you tell me what is the command to copy?
[20:45] <griffrez> :)
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: where is the file located and what is the name?
[20:46] <griffrez> It is at downloads
[20:46] <tibe> It has the correct hash. anything else I can try?
[20:46] <griffrez> And it is named jre-6u27-linux-x64.bin
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: sudo cp ~/Downloads/jre-6u27-linux-x64.bin /opt
[20:46] <griffrez> Oh
[20:47] <griffrez> =)
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: after you run it, READ the command
[20:47] <griffrez> OK
[20:47] <FreeWilly> evening all
[20:47] <FreeWilly> have two drives in my ubuntu server box
[20:47] <gr33npeace> hi.  I updated flash in google-chrome 14.0.835.202 and FF 7.0.1 this morning... but now flash videos are crashing the system totally... everything hangs and, I can't even drop to a tty to kill the process... I have a Dell M1330 with Nvidia graphics.  Can anyone help diagnose?
[20:47] <FreeWilly> need to make them mount automatically when server starttsup
[20:47] <FreeWilly> how do i do this, any suggestions?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: do you see how it works?
[20:47] <gr33npeace> it's running Ubuntu 11.04 as well as the above
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: use /etc/fstab
[20:48] <griffrez> I think so
[20:48] <griffrez> sudo give permission
[20:48] <FreeWilly> thanks ActionParsnip, care to just explain what that does, plz, im a nopob to linux
[20:48] <griffrez> cp = copy
[20:48] <griffrez> Then you put the origin directory
[20:48] <griffrez> And the distiny directory
[20:48] <griffrez> destiny*
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> gr33npeace: can you give a PASTEBIN of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep 'flash|gnash|swf'
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: now you can move files all over :)
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | FreeWilly
[20:49] <gr33npeace> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/ZhUhKUQg
[20:50] <griffrez> ActionParsnip: I copied the file to /opt, marked it as an application, and when I try to run it, it says it is of unknown type.
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> gr33npeace: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:52] <griffrez> Sorry xD
[20:52] <TuxBlackEdo_> hello, i just used ddrecover to recover my hard drive, now I want to mount it  "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb2 /mnt/windows-recover (says)-> ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sdb2': No such file or directory" so I think i need to use fdisk or fsck to try to rebuild/fix the filesystem, how do i do that?
[20:52] <gr33npeace> ActionParsnip: thanks very much, I'll give that a try
[20:52] <TuxBlackEdo_> ntfs-3g.probe -w /dev/sdb -> NTFS signature is missing.
[20:52] <griffrez> Got any idea for my can't run .bin file?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: run:  cd /opt; sudo ./jre-6u27-linux-x64.bin
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: should do it
[20:55] <griffrez> ActionParsnip: I did it, bu t my java is still 1.7
[20:55] <griffrez> but*
[20:55] <phoenixsampras> how to searc a string inside directories ?
[20:55] <phoenixsampras> how to search a string inside directories ?
[20:56] <orated> On what does the file transfer rate depends when transferring files over sftp?
[20:56] <ccb> Im using 11.04 on a macbookpro 4,1 - running gkrell shows "temp7" @ 127C. All other temps fine. Anyone know what temp7 is?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: rerun the: sudo update-java
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> orated: bandwidth
[20:57] <griffrez> ActionParsnip: All the available version are the 1.7.0 and the 1.6.0 OpenJDK
[20:58] <genii-around> orated: The slowest machine between you and the endpoint. Maybe a little overhead for the encryption on endpoint but not much there.
[20:58] <orated> ActionParsnip: I mean file transfer between networked computers using sftp. I got the systems connected to home network 192.168.2.100 to 102 ...
[20:58] <Guest63540> Good Afternoon, Is there a Oneric RC today?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> orated: same, the lowest speed will determine the transfer rate
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest63540: ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:59] <orated> genii-around: So, the encrytion is what causes delay?
[20:59] <FreeWilly> i see with fstab it will automatically mount the specified device/partician to the path located in the fstab file, however i will still have to run the mount command
[20:59] <Guest63540> k
[20:59] <FreeWilly> am i understanding this correctly?
[20:59] <orated> ActionParsnip: lowest speed will determine the transfer rate?!
[21:00] <Guest63540> j/ #ubuntu+1
[21:00] <genii-around> orated: Sometimes. If you have ssh set to use compression with -C it sometimes helps
[21:00] <glebihan> FreeWilly, you won't need to run the mount command, partitions listed in fstab will be mounted on boot
[21:01] <FreeWilly> ah
[21:01] <Sidewinder1> FreeWilly, I don't think so, as long as it's in fstab and "on" it 'should' automount..
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> orated: sure, the faster link will slow down to the speed of the slower link
[21:02] <griffrez> I'm just going to delete the Java folder and start again?
[21:02] <griffrez> Is that wise, ActionParsnip ?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> orated: to match, the transfer
[21:02] <orated> glebihan: But if I do file copy within the same system , the speed would depend on HDD reat/write cycle... here while using sftp in the home network, i'm not getting it how
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> grifferz: is what wise?
[21:02] <griffrez> Deleting the java folder
[21:02] <orated> genii-around: ^
[21:02] <griffrez> To start again
[21:03] <griffrez> usr/lib/jvm/
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> orated: also, CPU speed due to the encryption (litle speed will be lost even in a slow system)
[21:03] <orated> Sorry glebihan, it was for other nick
[21:03] <gr33npeace> ActionParsnip: no joy I'm afraid... same system crunching failure, but now with added screen flickering... can you suggest anything else?  Could it be related to the nvidia graphics?
[21:03] <genii-around> orated: The speed then is limited by whatever bottlenecks in your hardware or network, yes
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> gr33npeace: does it work ok as a different (or new) user?
[21:04] <FreeWilly> kk my samba set up points to the path on wich the drives are mounted, so all i would have to do is mount these drives to their path in fstab?
[21:04] <griffrez> What is the command to delete a folder?
[21:04] <griffrez> On the CMD?
[21:04] <orated> Thanks ActionParsnip, genii-around
[21:05] <FreeWilly> (samba working fine)
[21:05] <Chwoka> is there a way to put the launcher on the bottom of the screen.
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> griffrez: rm -r foldername
[21:05] <gry> griffrez: rm -r
[21:06] <organiks> Can someone plz help me figure out why i can connect to box1 with 11.04 wireless via samba from a wired box2 11.04 box but cant connect to wire from wireless box
[21:07] <Mangeh> I have a sound problem, whenever i play a DVD, the sound is all glitchy and skippy.
[21:10] <AKQJ10> anyone knows why `zenity --notification ...` doesn't work on ubuntu11.03?
[21:11] <koleary> \quit
[21:12] <BarkingFish> koleary, try that with a / instead if you really mean to quit your client
[21:12] <griffrez> When I try to make a copy, I get omitted directory.
[21:12] <griffrez> What does this mean?
[21:12] <slak> hey
[21:13] <gry> griffrez: it means you want to use -r switch if you want to copy subdirectories
[21:13] <AKQJ10> grifferz, means that your using only one parameter?
[21:13] <w30> grifferz, try cp -a
[21:13] <gry> w30: :( so confusing
[21:13] <slak> i have an issue with java i guess youd say.. im connecting to a wireless camera and on a windows desktop the video is the correct resolution
[21:13] <griffrez> Oh
[21:13] <slak> but the same video under linux (java applet / video) is zoomed in
[21:13] <griffrez> I see
[21:13] <griffrez> :)
[21:13] <slak> as if in a lower res
[21:14] <slak> anyone know how to change default behaviours of java/iced tea ?
[21:14] <griffrez> When I type "su" and ask me for the password, isn't it my account's password?
[21:14] <gry> slak: ask ##java
[21:15] <gr33npeace> ActionParsnip: I created a new user, and it worked for 2 videos, then had the same crash.  does that tell you anything?
[21:15] <OerHeks> grifferz, don't use su, sudo is the ubuntu way
[21:15] <Jordan_U> griffrez: No, you're thinking of "sudo".
[21:15] <AKQJ10> grifferz, `su` make you to perform login as another user, so you need to enter his password
[21:15] <w30> grifferz,man i your friend man cp, man mv, man etc
[21:15] <griffrez> I see. :(
[21:15] <griffrez> Kinda of a noob here
[21:15] <griffrez> :3
[21:15] <AKQJ10> grifferz, `sudo` allows you to perform commands as root (if your user's on the sudoers list)
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> gr33npeace: tried a different browser?
[21:16] <griffrez> Yeah, I know that AKQJ
[21:16] <w30> grifferz, you will get it sooner than you think
[21:16] <gr33npeace> ActionParsnip: yup, same results in both chrome and firefox... which makes me think the problem is with the flash thing itself.. not the browsers
[21:17] <racho> gr33npeace, get it from the official adobe page
[21:17] <griffrez> Damn it
[21:17] <griffrez> Can't install java correctly
[21:17] <racho> the .tar.gz
[21:17] <griffrez> D:
[21:17] <griffrez> And I can't seem to be able to contact ##java
[21:17] <Mangeh> griffrez
[21:17] <griffrez> Yeah?
[21:18] <Mangeh> are you using apt-get?
[21:18] <griffrez> No.
[21:18] <rapage> there are some files I need to open as root
[21:18] <gr33npeace> racho: I tried originally... with no success
[21:18] <griffrez> I'm trying to install Oracle's JDK 7
[21:18] <rapage> what do I need to do
[21:18] <Mangeh> oh
[21:18] <AKQJ10> grifferz, what i mean is: to execute `su` you'll need the user password, otherwise `sudo su username`  makes you to perform login with any user without password
[21:18] <Mangeh> never mind then
[21:18] <griffrez> Something from Oracle, since open source ones are a bit crappier
[21:18] <griffrez> AKQJ10: I understand that now, thanks. :)
[21:19] <racho> grifferz, maybe apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras. i recall it installed the oracle java implementation
[21:19] <griffrez> racho: I wanted the version 7, since it is a bit faster, but I'll try version 6 for some testing
[21:19] <racho> gr33npeace, what is your current flash version?
[21:20] <griffrez> racho: Should I reboot after doing the apt-get?
[21:20] <racho> afaik no
[21:21] <griffrez> I got some prompt from TrueType
[21:21] <griffrez> I can't interact with it
[21:21] <griffrez> Looks like a DOS kind of enviroment
[21:21] <racho> grifferz, it's the eula for the mscorefonts package
[21:22] <griffrez> I can't accept it
[21:22] <griffrez> It looks like an image
[21:22] <griffrez> xD
[21:22] <bindi> move down with arrows and press enter
[21:22] <griffrez> The only thing I can do is highlight the text
[21:22] <racho> that's very weird
[21:22] <gr33npeace> racho: I think it is 11.0.1.152
[21:23] <griffrez> I got to the bottom of the EULA, with bindi tip, but if I press enter nothing happens
[21:23] <bindi> griffrez: space then
[21:23] <griffrez> Wait
[21:23] <bindi> or tab to navigate
[21:23] <griffrez> Right/Left arrow fixed
[21:23] <bindi> yeah that
[21:23] <Mangeh> lol
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> gr33npeace: could try the 11.1 flash plugin
[21:23] <griffrez> Whoa
[21:23] <FerchoLP> do anyone know where does Nautilus take mount information from to fill the "Places" panel? I needed to mount a fat32 partition at start in read-write mode, so i edited fstab, but somehow nautilus remounts it in read only mode and I do not where is it taking configuration parameters from
[21:23] <griffrez> Installing lods of stuff
[21:23] <griffrez> :3
[21:23] <griffrez> loads*
[21:23] <FloodBot1> griffrez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:23] <grendal-prime> has anyone set up simon before?
[21:23] <racho> gr33npeace, yes i am with the same 64bit libflash.so and it's working flawlessly in firefox 7
[21:24] <griffrez> FloodBot1 is mean. :P
[21:24] <FerchoLP> and the partition fat32 now appears twice in the places panel, one of them with the eject triangle
[21:24] <griffrez> Ok
[21:24] <racho> gr33npeace, i can't say for chrome as i'm not into botnets apps
[21:24] <griffrez> I did the apt-get restricted-extras
[21:25] <FerchoLP> but I can access the partition through any of the two icons
[21:25] <griffrez> After all that, if I do java -version
[21:25] <gr33npeace> ActionParsnip: OK, I could have a look for that I guess
[21:25] <griffrez> I get /usr/bin/java: no such file or directory
[21:25] <Mangeh> grifferz: what kinda a java do you want?
[21:25] <gr33npeace> racho: this is 32bit, and has same problem in Firefox as well... I'll look for the 11.1 version and see how that goes, cheers
[21:26] <griffrez> Mangeh: Java 7 JDK
[21:26] <racho> gr33npeace, probably the earlier version should do the job
[21:26] <Zutara> Is there any way to sign in as Zutara on this server and as my other screen name on SpotChat?
[21:27] <Mangeh> grifferz: sudo apt-get install sun-java7-jdk
[21:27] <Mangeh> try that
[21:27] <ThomasWaldmann> the "release notes" somehow sound spanish or so
[21:27] <griffrez> E: Unable to locate package sun-java7-jdk
[21:27] <ThomasWaldmann> (link in channel topic)
[21:28] <griffrez> I get that error, Mangeh
[21:28] <m_bisson> Tight security to get in here
[21:28] <Mangeh> ok
[21:28] <gr33npeace> racho: thanks mate, I'll just try the different versions until it works
[21:28] <Mangeh> grifferz: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[21:28] <griffrez> OpenJDK?
[21:28] <griffrez> Isn't it slower than Oracle's?
[21:29] <ThomasWaldmann> is there some estimate for the 11.10 rc iso?
[21:29] <Mangeh> Apparently so, but its not so much slower. only a little.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> ThomasWaldmann: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[21:29] <karen_m> where do you edit the xorg automaticl logon settings?  I disabled the password on logon, and now my encrypted home is messed up!!  I need to re-enable the password prompt!
[21:29] <ThomasWaldmann> ah, thanks :)
[21:29] <FreeWilly> ActionParsnip, glebihan and Sidewinder1, oh and the bot, thanks fstab ftw
[21:30] <griffrez> Mangeh: I'll just try one more thing.
[21:30] <Mangeh> griffrez: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[21:30] <griffrez> Yeah
[21:30] <griffrez> I tried that
[21:30] <griffrez> But
[21:30] <griffrez> Wait
[21:30] <Sidewinder1> FreeWilly, Our pleasure. :D
[21:30] <FloodBot1> griffrez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:30] <griffrez> Awww. Damn it, sorry, FloodBot.
[21:30] <griffrez> :P
[21:31] <Mangeh> Oh sweet, fixed my sound.
[21:31] <FreeWilly> is there a way to view a webppage from the ubuntu server terminal?
[21:31] <Zutara> :)
[21:31] <m_bisson> What's the best way to play games? Like battlefield 3 for instance?
[21:31] <Zutara> Wine
[21:31] <Sidewinder1> grifferz, Please don't respond to the floodbot; he/she'll ignore you unless you offend.. :D
[21:31] <gr33npeace> FreeWilly: You could install the lynx browser
[21:32] <Mangeh> m_bisson, for starters, Ubuntu is not good for games, and Battlefield 3 probably wont work in Wine
[21:32] <FreeWilly> nothing that comes standard with ubuntu server?
[21:32] <racho> FreeWilly, well wget the page and read it locally :)
[21:32] <m_bisson> Ah.. EA makes you install spyware to play it. So I wanted to avoid windows
[21:32] <gr33npeace> FreeWilly: not that I know of... you could use wget to pull the HTML and less to look at it?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Mangeh: depends on the game as to weather its good ;)
[21:33] <Sidewinder1> !wine | m_bisson
[21:33] <m_bisson> What about virtual box?
[21:33] <m_bisson> Better or worse?
[21:33] <racho> m_bisson, terrible performance
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> m_bisson: games run very badly in virtualbox
[21:34] <racho> a game in an OS in a virtual space in an OS
[21:34] <iridium>  m_bisson, virtualbox uses wine3d for d3d so...
[21:34] <thenickperson> I have a question about Ubuntu's IRC channel itself. I'm registered, how do I stop greeting messagse from ChanServ? It says "(notice) [#ubuntu] Welcome to #ubuntu! Please read the channel topic. This channel is logged. Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService" every time I join.
[21:34] <m_bisson> I thought they ran bad in wine lol.
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> m_bisson: have you checked the appdb?
[21:34] <m_bisson> No idea what that is
[21:34] <ethern0t> haillo
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | m_bisson
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> m_bisson: some games run well, some better than in Windows, some won't even install
[21:35] <m_bisson> Well this game isn't even it yet so I doubt it they have anything.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> m_bisson: if you want to play the latest games, use WIndows
[21:35] <FreeWilly> forgive me plz guys but im a noob to linux
[21:35] <FreeWilly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/703625/
[21:35] <FreeWilly> (yes i have network connectivity i get ping results)
[21:35] <m_bisson> I do. But you need spyware for this one
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: why run it as root?
[21:36] <FreeWilly> silly mistake
[21:36] <iridium> m_bisson, windows is still the ultimate gaming platform when comes to windows games
[21:36] <gr33npeace> FreeWilly: that would be a very bad slow way to read the web... best thing is to install the lynx browser!
[21:37] <FreeWilly> my username is my name and surname, dont want that in the bin
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: can you pastebin the output of:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:37] <FreeWilly> thanks will get lynx
[21:39] <rmd_> I installed ldm as my login manager. How do I reconfigure my system to use GDM again, instead?
[21:39] <FreeWilly> will paste resolv now
[21:39] <FreeWilly> funny cant get result actuall y from google now pinging
[21:39] <FreeWilly> can ping router however
[21:41] <FreeWilly> ActionParsnip: funny enuf rolv doesnt exist
[21:41] <borp> Under 11.04, is it at all possible to pass mount options when connecting to an smb/cifs share through the Nautilus "Connect to Server" dialog?
[21:41] <FreeWilly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/703629/
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: run:  sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf     delete all lines and add:    nameserver 8.8.8.8      press CTRL+X, Press Y, Press ENTER
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: then try the web
[21:42] <FreeWilly> changed the ip's for obvious reasons
[21:42] <carestad> anyone knows of a problem with network-manager where eth0 (wired connection) disappears after hibernate and/or when I restart the network-manager service?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: hiding a class C network does absolutely nothing
[21:43] <cypha> anyway have libjpeg installed?
[21:43] <cypha> I CANNOT get PIL to find my JPEG library
[21:43] <borp> e.g. is there a way to set default mount options for gvfs cifs?
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: there are millions of 192.168.0.x networks all over, masking that does not hide you from anything at all
[21:43] <thenickperson> hello
[21:44] <FreeWilly> ActionParsnip: thanks ur resolv edit worked, nano seems cool, i usually just battle with vi
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: you are from South Africa - Western Cape
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: nano is easier
[21:44] <FreeWilly> ActionParsnip: like i said im a noob, so parden my paranoya
[21:44] <FreeWilly> :P
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: its a network thing, not ubuntu ;)
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: does resolv.conf now make the web work?
[21:45] <thenickperson> hello
[21:45] <FreeWilly> ActionParsnip: r u a real person? (no offense)
[21:45] <FreeWilly> that just seemed like a bot
[21:45] <FreeWilly> :P
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: no, i'm a dude
[21:45] <cypha> how do I check my ubuntu version again?
[21:45] <FreeWilly> irc whois cmnds?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> cypha: lsb_release -a
[21:46] <cypha> thank you ActionParsnip
[21:46] <FreeWilly> ActionParsnip: thanks anyhoo, im learning a lot as i go along
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: yep, gets the wan IP (yours isn't hidden) then bang it in an IP to location site et voila
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: does the resolv.conf make things work ?
[21:46] <rasusto> hello all
[21:46] <FreeWilly> ja it actually did
[21:46] <FreeWilly> thanks again
[21:46] <FreeWilly> wget
[21:46] <FreeWilly> pinging
[21:47] <FloodBot1> FreeWilly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <FreeWilly> all works
[21:47] <FreeWilly> shees
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> FreeWilly: you had no DNS servers defined, so the system could not translate www.google.com to an IP address
[21:47] <FreeWilly> i do use it mr
[21:47] <rmd_> I installed ldm as my login manager. How do I reconfigure my system to use GDM again, instead?
[21:48] <FreeWilly> can anyone suggest a irc client which is freeware no registration etc? im using frenode's website
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> !irc
[21:49] <FreeWilly> its funny, coz i didnt have that defined for a while, and could ping sites fine, i did it just to test connectivity
[21:49] <FreeWilly> only saw tonight its not pinging
[21:54] <nsd> Anyone know of a C programming language channel that I don't have to be registered for?
[21:56] <SetiAmon> I noticed oddly in synaptic there is both a regular preload and there is FEDORA-Preload,which is interesting.has anyone here tried both
[21:56] <seriousstorm85> Hi, I have two PCs connected to the same router...both PCs have Ubuntu 11.04 installed. I set a folder in the Home folder on both machines to be shared  using Personal Share....when I go to the Network folder I don't see the PC I am on or the other PC to access the folder in both PCs...any ideas guys?
[21:56] <cypha> anyone familiar with the jpg and png libraries?
[21:56] <FreeWilly> sorry got dc
[21:57] <Frots> wut
[21:57] <Frots> who unbanned me
[21:57] <FreeWilly> fyi ubuntu i just found out has a lynx hybrid installed
[21:57] <FreeWilly> w3m
[21:57] <Frots> FreeWilly: lol orly
[21:57] <FreeWilly> http://ubuntuserver.info/2007/04/25/install-a-web-browser-lynx/
[21:57] <racho> cypha what about the libraries?
[21:57] <Frots> lynx hybrid lol
[21:57] <cypha> racho, when I install PIL it apparently can't find the libraries
[21:58] <FreeWilly> clone
[21:58] <FreeWilly> w/e
[21:58] <Frots> thanks for sharing
[21:58] <FreeWilly> "w3m is a lynx clone and it is installed by default on Ubuntu!" - from that link
[21:58] <Frots> it's not a clone
[21:58] <FreeWilly> <---------- noob
[21:58] <Frots> ah ok
[21:59] <Frots> is it possible to use systemd in ubuntu?
[21:59] <SetiAmon> hey fedora-preload,is it better then the generic preload?
[21:59] <Frots> SetiAmon: yes
[21:59] <racho> cypha are you doing a wide install or in a virtualenv
[21:59] <seriousstorm85> Hi, I have two PCs connected to the same router...both PCs have Ubuntu 11.04 installed. I set a folder in the Home folder on both machines to be shared  using Personal Share....when I go to the Network folder I don't see the PC I am on or the other PC to access the folder in both PCs...any ideas guys?
[22:00] <cypha> PIL is in the virtualenv
[22:00] <cypha> racho ^^
[22:00] <Frots> seriousstorm85: you should install nfs first and update your exports
[22:00] <racho> cypha, sudo apt-get install libjpeg-dev libpng-dev zlib1g-dev liblcms1-dev python-dev
[22:01] <SetiAmon> Frots:I just installed regular Preload (fresh install after collapse) So your saying,to make it clear,that I should install the Fedora preload instead?how much faster is it?
[22:01] <cypha> racho, remove libjpeg8-dev in favor of libjpeg62-dev?
[22:01] <seriousstorm85> Frots: thanks I will try that
[22:01] <cypha> i thought I saw online ubuntu 11 needed libjpeg8
[22:01] <Frots> SetiAmon: that all depends on a lot of factors
[22:01] <Frots> for me it was like 40% increase
[22:02] <scressi> hello
[22:02] <Frots> bye
[22:02] <scressi> can someone help with an rsyslog question
[22:02] <Frots> nope
[22:02] <scressi> :(
[22:02] <Frots> #rsyslog
[22:02] <racho> cypha, leave libjpg8-dev
[22:02] <scressi> well, no one at rsyslog channel answers
[22:02] <scressi> so i came here
[22:02] <Frots> just wait
[22:03] <racho> cypha, i was going to make you build it from source
[22:03] <cypha> only one I didn't have was liblcms1-dev
[22:03] <Frots> scressi: or go to #archlinux-offtopic , a lot of the rsyslog guys hang out there
[22:03] <OerHeks> scressi, ask the real question and find out
[22:03] <Frots> OerHeks: ben je echt een heks?
[22:03] <OerHeks> Frots, how is that any help ?
[22:04] <scressi> OerHeks: I need to enable immark on all facilities, when i enable immage module it seems it's only enabled on local0
[22:04] <scressi> but i'd like to enable on all locals
[22:04] <scressi> not quite sure how to do that
[22:04] <Frots> scressi: people don't know that stuff here
[22:05] <racho> cypha, so?
[22:05] <SetiAmon> wow Frots:so going to replace preload with fedora-preload
[22:05] <Frots> good luck
[22:05] <griffrez> I got an ATI GPU
[22:06] <griffrez> What's the best driver package to get?
[22:06] <griffrez> Open or Closed source?
[22:06] <racho> stay with the open source if you don't plan to play games
[22:06] <cypha> racho, so?
[22:06] <griffrez> I do want to play games
[22:06] <griffrez> Like Minecraft
[22:06] <griffrez> And I might go Wine, soon.
[22:06] <ETERNA> Anyone hear that?
[22:07] <ETERNA> There's a buzzing noise coming from IRC!
[22:07] <racho> grifferz, then the catalyst plus the kmod package
[22:07] <Frots> racho: FUD
[22:07] <Frots> ATI opensource driver does 3D really good
[22:07] <racho> cypha, so does PIL install now?
[22:08] <cypha> racho, jpeg support available
[22:08] <cypha> but not for freetype2 or zlip
[22:09] <cypha> or tkinter
[22:09] <griffrez> racho: How so?
[22:10] <racho> cypha, open the PIL setup.py file
[22:11] <racho> cypha replace these lines => JPEG_ROOT = “/usr/local/include” and ZLIB_ROOT = “/usr/local/include”
[22:11] <griffrez> I'm trying to run Minecraft, but Linux doesn't seem to have an application configured for .jar files.
[22:11] <cypha> racho, where's the setup.py flie located?
[22:11] <racho> cypha, python setup.py build_ext -i | python selftest.py |  sudo python setup.py install
[22:12] <racho> in the PIL tar.gz
[22:12] <SetiAmon> Frots:is there anything i should do other then just install fedora-preload I mean a way to make it effect etc since i can't find anything on the web about these tweaks!
[22:12] <SetiAmon> frots
[22:13] <Scunizi> If I install 11.04 or 11.10 (when out) on a fresh drive and then afterwards change fstab to reflect my /home as a different drive (which I'm currently using only for /home).... Will I then have to apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade to bring all the bits on the old /home drive up-to-date?  Does it work that way?
[22:13] <cypha> racho, oh ok, I was pip installing PIL
[22:14] <cypha> so u say to download it instead
[22:14] <RaHorachty> hola, there is a error with the most recent System Utility Tray & am curious if anybody else has noticed a thing similar
[22:15] <racho> cypha, well yes you install it in the virtualenv with virtualenvwrapper
[22:15] <SetiAmon> btw i was wrong it wasn't fedora-preload it was fedora-readahead
[22:15] <cypha> racho, right, but ur saying instead of doing that, download the source kit from their website?
[22:15] <pangolin> SetiAmon: fedora is not supported in here.
[22:16] <racho> cypha, yep install from source :)
[22:16] <SetiAmon> Pangolin:this is a package in ubuntu called readahead-fedora,So take it up with cronical
[22:16] <SetiAmon> I'm trying to find out why it is there in the first place
[22:16] <pangolin> SetiAmon: really? heh
[22:16] <racho> cuz fedora rocks, that's why :)
[22:16] <SetiAmon> yeah,look in synaptic,type in preload and there is a package readahead-fedora
[22:17] <SetiAmon> when i tried fedora it didn't work right,was slow and choppy and crashed after second boot which is why i went back to linux
[22:17] <SetiAmon> err
[22:17] <SetiAmon> ubuntu
[22:17] <willwh> hi folks - how is the clock syncd in ubuntu server by default?
[22:17] <cypha> racho:
[22:17] <cypha> imaging.c:3077:5: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
[22:17] <cypha> error: Broken pipe
[22:17] <willwh> should I be installing ntp - or something else does that arldy?
[22:18] <racho> currently with fedora 16 beta and i got to tell you the 11.10 should be exceptionaly good to get me back in the ubuntu camp
[22:18] <SetiAmon> Fedora and adopted now in Ubuntu 10.04,interesting
[22:18] <cypha> after running the setup commands
[22:18] <pangolin> SetiAmon: sorry, had no idea that package was there or why.
[22:18] <SetiAmon> dig pangolin trying to find that out now
[22:18] <SetiAmon> I guess parts of ubuntu are now from fedora
[22:19] <SetiAmon> http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-11.04/ubuntu-universe-amd64/readahead-fedora_1.5.6-1_amd64.deb.html here is it listed online
[22:19] <thekaish> hello
[22:19] <thekaish> i have one question
[22:20] <thekaish> can i play windows games with the wine emulator?
[22:21] <haqking> @thekaish depends on the game, head over to http://www.winehq.org/ to check its compatability
[22:21] <racho> cypha, ok another approach change FREETYPE_ROOT, JPEG_ROOT, ZLIB_ROOT in setup.py to point to /usr/lib if 32bit or /usr/lib64 if 64bit
[22:22] <racho> then repeat the install
[22:23] <cypha> racho, now it just says Broken pipe
[22:23] <cypha> before I even get to enter in my password
[22:23] <cypha> there are qutoes around those paths, btw, right?
[22:27] <racho> cypha, yes
[22:28] <racho> cypha, python setup.py build --force
[22:28] <cypha> that line alone?
[22:28] <racho> and then python setup.py install
[22:29] <cypha> after doing build, it still says zlib support no available
[22:29] <cypha> and freetype2 support not available
[22:29] <cypha> racho ^^
[22:30] <cypha> littlecms support is avaiable now though
[22:30] <cypha> cuz i got the package before as u said
[22:33] <ETERNA> hi all!
[22:33] <cypha> racho, please tell me u've got another trick up your sleeve
[22:33] <cypha> !
[22:33] <ETERNA> wow... 1506 on IRC alone!
[22:34] <Chwoka> so is it normal to set ubuntu to restart and get a bunch of garbled nonsense characters on your screen and nothing else
[22:34] <Chwoka> that doesn't seemlikely to me
[22:34] <racho> cypha, i'm thinking :)
[22:34] <ETERNA> w
[22:34] <ETERNA> h
[22:34] <ETERNA> a
[22:34] <ETERNA> t
[22:34] <ETERNA> i
[22:34] <FloodBot1> ETERNA: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <ETERNA> s the issue
[22:35] <Chwoka> uh, are you talking to me?
[22:35] <ETERNA> Chwoka: I think
[22:35] <Chwoka> yeah okay
[22:36] <ETERNA> it is normal to get debug info when u reboot
[22:36] <ETERNA> because I get debug info when I reboot.
[22:37] <Chwoka> this is not debug info, it's not even intelligable. it's larger, black characters on a white bavkground, an i can tpye on it, but all my keystrokes go down backwards andsomewhat garbled
[22:37] <ETERNA> Hmm... is it during bios?
[22:37] <ETERNA> Or ubuntu boot...?
[22:37] <racho> cypha, what does python -vv -c "import _imaging" gives?
[22:38] <Chwoka> ubuntu boot
[22:38] <cypha> a buncha stuff racho
[22:38] <ETERNA> KK... I don't think thats normal
[22:38] <ETERNA> What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:38] <Chwoka> 11.04
[22:38] <ETERNA> Ok.. does it cause issues?
[22:39] <ETERNA> The weird thing, i mean.
[22:39] <pp7> how can i get flash 11 to work on youtube
[22:39] <pp7> it keeps saying I need to upgrade
[22:39] <Chwoka> yeah, in that it just won't progress past this screen
[22:39] <cypha> racho, u wanna see the output?
[22:39] <ETERNA> Oh... mebbe reinstall Ubuntu... that sounds bad.
[22:40] <tweek_23> Anyone know if SET will work with ubuntu 11.04?
[22:40] <ETERNA> What are u using?
[22:40] <Chwoka> damn, i just installed it too.
[22:40] <Chwoka> thankfully, that means i won't miss much
[22:40] <ETERNA> For IRC i mean
[22:40] <racho> cypha, no need it find the image module otherwise it would throw a 3-line exception :)
[22:40] <ETERNA> How are you IRCing, Chwoka?
[22:40] <Chwoka> 2 computers
[22:40] <cypha> racho, oh ok
[22:41] <Guest85200> hey guys, i just reinstalled natty and now my sounds doesnt work
[22:41] <ETERNA> Guest: Disable pulseaudio.
[22:41] <ETERNA> I'll tell u how in a minute
[22:42] <DustyMonk> Chwoka: which irc client?
[22:42] <Chwoka> mirc
[22:42] <Chwoka> why does that matter?
[22:42] <racho> cypha why dont you add the directory where libjpeg.so.8 is to your /etc/ld.so.conf file and run ldconfig
[22:43] <racho> maybe the file does not get into the python sys.path
[22:43] <cypha> racho, no idea what that means, but sure
[22:43] <cypha> grep libjpeg.so.8 . ?
[22:43] <ETERNA> Guest 85200: run sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/pulseaudio
[22:44] <ETERNA> Guest 85200: then run sudo killall pulseaudio
[22:44] <ETERNA> in terminal.
[22:44] <ETERNA> Guest 85200: Enter those in terminal.
[22:44] <racho> find / -name *name*
[22:44] <pp7> how can i get flash 11 to work on youtube? it keeps saying I need to upgrade
[22:45] <ETERNA> pp7: I'll look it up.
[22:45] <pp7> thx
[22:45] <cypha> racho, I have like 1000 results
[22:45] <ETERNA> pp7: Use a different browser. Firefox
[22:45] <tweek_23> anyone know anything about SET working with ubuntu 11.04??
[22:45] <pp7> LOL
[22:46] <ETERNA> pp7: causes the problem
[22:46] <pp7> ETERNA: that doesnt work
[22:46] <racho>  sudo find / -name "libjpeg.so*"
[22:46] <ETERNA> pp7: what browser gave u the error?
[22:47] <pp7> ETERNA: both firefox and chrome, its not the browser its the youtube page
[22:47] <pp7> ETERNA: and every other page that uses flash
[22:47] <ETERNA> ... Maybe reinstall flash?
[22:47] <pp7> ETERNA: tried that already
[22:47] <qin> pp7: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:47] <ETERNA> Private message me.
[22:47] <pp7> k
[22:47] <pp7> qin: i'll try that
[22:47] <racho> cypha, what are the results
[22:48] <cypha> racho, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/488548/
[22:49] <cypha> i'm running x64 btw
[22:49] <savid> Is it possible to write a script that can detect when my monitor is inplugged?  I'd a like to run "disper -d auto -e" whenever a monitor is unplugged,  but I'm not sure if there's an event I can "listen" to.
[22:51] <Ontolog> I am on 10.10 amd64 and I am trying to install openssh-server but I get this error: openssh-server : Depends: openssh-client (= 1:5.5p1-4ubuntu4) but 1:5.5p1-4ubuntu5 is to be installed
[22:51] <mbeierl> savid: I'm not sure if there is an event generated on monitor attach.  I used to do something like that on a poll basis, but that was a long time ago
[22:52] <mbeierl> has anyone here used NXServer/Client over a slow connection?  I find RDP still far excels over NX, which is odd because NX claims to be very highly tuned for thin, high latency pipes
[22:52] <escott> savid, check /etc/udev
[22:53] <savid> escott, interesting. I'll check it out.
[22:54] <Drogos> Anyone know of a good guide to get 11.10 to work like 10.10 ? (Like to be able to right click panels, not have global menus and how to move the windows buttons back to the right side)?
[22:54] <racho> cypha add the "/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.8" to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig
[22:54] <escott> !classic | Drogos
[22:55] <qin> Drogos: Still #ubuntu+1
[22:55] <OerHeks> Drogos, sorry escott , no classic in 11.10, support in #Ubuntu+1
[22:55] <Drogos> ubottu, Yes, I know, I am in gnome, but I still can't right click panels… And… I am trying out 11.10 (not 11.04)
[22:57] <escott> Drogos, you should be in +1
[22:57] <Drogos> Moving there now, thanks :)
[22:57] <FreeWilly> sup ppl, sori got dc
[22:58] <nyu_> i disabled pulseaudio and still no sound
[22:58] <FreeWilly> im hoping there some tomcat/java experst in the house
[22:58] <nyu_> my speakers make a popping sound when ever a sound plays though
[22:59] <cypha> racho, /sbin/ldconfig.real: is not a known library type; Segmentation fault
[22:59] <FreeWilly> i try to startup my tomcat and get the following error in my catalina.out log http://paste.ubuntu.com/703654/
[22:59] <FreeWilly> according to my results searching on the net
[22:59] <cypha> racho, my ls.so.conf looks like this:
[22:59] <cypha> include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
[22:59] <cypha> include /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.8
[22:59] <FreeWilly> this is probably a port clash
[22:59] <Ontolog> I am trying to remove a package and nothing is happening ...
[22:59] <FreeWilly> that the tomcat service hasnt closed down properly
[23:00] <jrib> Ontolog: pastebin commands and full output
[23:00] <FreeWilly> when i grep java on the port it should be listening on, no result
[23:01] <FreeWilly> when i run netstat
[23:01] <FreeWilly> i dont see either ports that tomcat uses to close or when listening listed
[23:02] <racho> cypha, just include /usr/lib
[23:02] <FreeWilly> wow 4 ppl in here, like 20min ago there were lots more
[23:02] <cypha> racho, /usr/lib/*?
[23:03] <racho> no just /usr/lib
[23:03] <racho> it traverses all the subpaths
[23:03] <cypha> oh ok
[23:04] <cypha> permission denied
[23:04] <cypha> sudo ldconfig?
[23:04] <racho> mhm
[23:04] <cypha> done
[23:04] <cypha> no output
[23:04] <racho> this is good
[23:04] <racho> no try to rebuild the PIL
[23:06] <cypha> racho, so what's jpeg_root and zlib_root and freetype_root supposed to be now?
[23:07] <racho> leave them the same and do -> python setup.py build_ext -i && python selftest.py
[23:07] <cypha> racho, I changed them in btwn to libinclude("/usr/")
[23:07] <cypha> not sure what they were before
[23:08] <racho> you mean usr/local/include
[23:08] <cypha> we removed local i think
[23:08] <racho> JPEG_ROOT = “/usr/local/include”
[23:09] <racho> ZLIB_ROOT = “/usr/local/include”
[23:09] <cypha> oh,/usr/lib64
[23:09] <cypha> but make it /usr/local/include now?
[23:10] <racho> yes change them now and try the commands i gave you up. if it fails again we'll change them to /usr/lib
[23:10] <racho> and if that fails again i'm going to commit suicide :/
[23:11] <pp7_> yo
[23:12] <cypha> racho, delete the PIL directory before building again?
[23:13] <cypha> Imaging-1.1.7/PIL that is
[23:13] <racho> no it should rewrite the files
[23:13] <wieso> hello ubuntu
[23:13] <mbeierl> anyone know of a quicken-like money management software for gnome or xfce?  There's KMyMoney, but I don't want to bring in the whole K desktop for one app...
[23:13] <wieso> Anybody out there?
[23:14] <racho> there was something like gnucash. check out the repos
[23:14] <racho> cypha, well, what's the outcome?
[23:15] <cypha> nope
[23:15] <cypha> didn't work
[23:15] <cypha> zlib is still not supprted
[23:15] <cypha> neither is freetype2
[23:16] <parapa> how can I tell what I need to install for my netbook to have the opengl drivers to run wine?
[23:16] <nyu_> i still cant get the sound to work
[23:16] <racho> cypha, can you just apt-get the damn library
[23:16] <cypha> which library?
[23:17] <racho> PIL
[23:17] <nyu_> even installed a different sound card
[23:17] <cypha> racho, i did
[23:17] <racho> and?
[23:17] <cle> ?
[23:17] <cypha> racho, you mean python-imaging
[23:17] <cypha> yeah?
[23:17] <racho> yeah
[23:18] <cypha> i have it
[23:18] <cypha> but when I try opening and saving a png file, it doesn't work still
[23:18] <cypha> mentions about the decoder
[23:18] <cypha> missing
[23:19] <racho> open a python shell
[23:19] <nyu_> anyone have any ideas?
[23:19] <Ldskjg> for
[23:19] <nyu_> reinstalled natty and now i have no sound
[23:19] <Ldskjg> oh
[23:19] <Ldskjg> clean install
[23:20] <cypha> racho
[23:20] <cypha> >>> from PIL import Image
[23:20] <cypha> >>> i = Image.open('/home/username/someJpeg.jpg')
[23:20] <cypha> >>> i.save('/home/username/someOtherJpeg.jpg')
[23:20] <nyu_> yeah
[23:20] <FloodBot1> cypha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:20] <cypha> oops
[23:20] <cypha> except with .png
[23:20] <Ldskjg> sometimes ubuntu mutes the micro. did you check?
[23:20] <cypha> and it doesn't work
[23:20] <cypha> get an error on the save
[23:21] <Jordan_U> cypha: Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com to give us a link to the exact error message.
[23:21] <racho> http://www.ijg.org/files/jpegsr8c.zip
[23:21] <parapa> how can I tell what I need to install for my netbook to have the opengl drivers to run wine?
[23:22] <racho> i think you'll need that decoder
[23:22] <Ldskjg> nyu: open preferences => sound and check micro
[23:22] <nyu_> mic isnt muted
[23:22] <Ldskjg> k
[23:22] <Ldskjg> hmmm
[23:22] <Ldskjg> google? :-)
[23:23] <nyu_> i get speaker pops when sound starts to play but no sound
[23:23] <x0rs> Anyone using Ubuntu 11.04 with Gnome 3 and have sleep mode turned on? I have it turned on, but when my PC enters sleep mode my fans and internal lights stay on, and they don't in Windows, and I was wondering if this was how ubuntu sleep mode works?
[23:24] <racho> cypha did you actually installed it. cuz i see in the log i gave you only the python setup.py build_ext -i and python selftest.py but not the installation one
[23:24] <cypha> i just ran those two cuz i thought that's what u said
[23:25] <cypha> racho, jpeg's work fine
[23:25] <cypha> i just test
[23:25] <cypha> ed
[23:25] <racho> *facepalm* ok run them both plus sudo python setup.py install
[23:26] <cypha> in that order?
[23:26] <racho> yes, build selftest install
[23:26] <racho> the first two are without sudo
[23:26] <xsaidx> hello i have installed gnote but i dont see it in my menu i have lubuntu anyone knows how to fix this  ? thanks
[23:27] <Servercrash> hi, does anyone knows how to configure resolution for intel 855 graphics card, i see just 1024x768 as an option
[23:27] <Servercrash> i am using u 11.10
[23:27] <cypha> racho, hmm, can't find it in the scrollback
[23:27] <cypha> would you mind pasting it again?
[23:27] <cypha> sorry
[23:28] <Servercrash> what happen to xorg.conf ?
[23:28] <racho> python setup.py build_ext -i | python selftest.py |  sudo python setup.py install
[23:28] <Servercrash> i dont see it in /etc
[23:29] <racho> Servercrash, for a long time ubuntu does not generate a xorg.conf by default
[23:29] <Chwoka> i'm reinstalling ubuntu 11.04 and it seems like it stopped on installing file 29 out of 62
[23:29] <cypha> racho, close failed in file object desctrutor: sys.excepthook is missing; lost sys.stderr
[23:29] <escott> Servercrash, xorg autoconfigures itself the only people who have a conf are nvidia users
[23:29] <Chwoka> can ijust press the skip button on that or is it importante
[23:29] <BarkingFish> Servercrash, also, since you're dealing with 11.10, you need to be in #ubuntu+1, not here :)
[23:29] <BarkingFish> oneiric is still beta atm
[23:30] <parapa> how can I tell what I need to install for my netbook to have the opengl drivers to run wine?
[23:30] <Servercrash> thx guys, that means in need to generate one xorg.conf
[23:30] <culinor> so what going on with Ubuntu nowadays? I am using LTS 10.04, what will the next LTS look like? I mean what's happening with the new GUI? Did it get adopted or we can use GNOME.KDE?
[23:30] <Servercrash> x - configure.... i guess
[23:30] <Jordan_U> parapa: Are you sure you don't already have 3D acceleration?
[23:31] <Chwoka> ????
[23:33] <Chwoka> am i taking the files being downloaded off the internet, or am i taking them off the .iso disc i made?
[23:33] <parapa> Jordan_U i'm sure when i try to use wine i get an error saying Failed to creat Direct3D and in console theres an error saying err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly
[23:33] <racho> cypha, i don't know what else could it be. usually a missing sym lynk or lack of devel packages leads to these problems but we covered them both.
[23:33] <cypha> sym links in the correct place?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> parapa: OK, check the "Additional Drivers" tool.
[23:34] <parapa> Jordan_U how do i run/check that?
[23:34] <Jordan_U> parapa: Go to the power icon at the top right of the screen then select "System Settings".
[23:35] <racho> cypha, ldconfig dynamicaly links when needed. that's why we ran it. maybe the folks at the PIL channel or #python  can give you other options
[23:35] <cypha> #pil?
[23:35] <cypha> #python no one really knows
[23:36] <racho> cypha, i don't know if it is #pil. i suspect they should have a channel.
[23:37] <racho> i'm sorry i wasn't very much of a help. wish you luck. and goodnight everyone.
[23:39] <culinor> so shall we use Unity or Gnome in the next LTS release?
[23:39] <Chwoka> aw man, i thought it was just going to skip installing that one file.  but it skipped installing every file from 28 to 69 :(
[23:40] <Polah> culinor: Unity is the default, other environments can be downloaded and installed as usual.
[23:40] <parapa> Jordan_U it says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[23:40] <Chwoka> is that bad. i'm guessing that's bad and i need to go try to install it again
[23:40] <culinor> thank you
[23:40] <OerHeks> Unity uses Gnome3 by then, so yes
[23:40] <Chwoka> am i correct in that assumption?
[23:41] <culinor> I am not sure I will like Unity so I was wondering if I would have the alternative to choose amongst others
[23:41] <Jordan_U> parapa: Can you run "glxinfo" and pastebin the output? (you may need to install glxinfo as instructed)
[23:41] <tlambert> anyone know which source file contains the default usb keyboard driver? usbkbd.c is apparently not it.  I need to add a modifier bit hack for some badly behaved hardware.  Probably upstreamable since I've seen similar reports.
[23:42] <Polah> culinor: Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu will most likely continue to exist. I expect there will be an offshoot for GNOME3 by default instead of Unity with regular Ubuntu. Regardless of which one you get, you can always install another DE through apt whenever you want.
[23:43] <Chwoka> am i invisible?
[23:43] <culinor> thanks for explaining Polah
[23:43] <Polah> Chwoka: Yes.
[23:44] <zromayn> is there any dhcp-3-server savvy around. I have a few questions about the "allow client-updates;" option
[23:45] <zromayn> I'm trying to get the dhcpd to update the DNS records automatically, and I don't seem to quite make it happen yet
[23:45] <parapa> Jordan_U pastebin.ubuntu.com/703666
[23:46] <basix-> what up
[23:47] <Jordan_U> parapa: According to that your graphics drivers are fine.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> parapa: Try asking about the error message you recieved in #winehq.
[23:49] <parapa> Jordan_U ok thanks
[23:49] <zromayn> hello all: is there anybody around with dhcp3-server experience to help me out. I'm trying to get the dhcp server to automatically update my DNS server PTR table and I don't seem to quite get it yet.
[23:49] <tlambert> zromayn also have to set the ddns-update-style parameter, and your DNS must support either RFC 2136 or ad-hoc update mode AND it must be enabled AND it must trust your DHCP server.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> parapa: You're welcome.
[23:49] <tlambert> If the DNS server won't play, game over.
[23:50] <zemo> i have followed whats here http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/SMC/SMCWBR14S-N4/ABC.ht  but when i try to connect to that port with the public IP i get connection refused and also running telnet on tat port, any help?
[23:51] <tlambert> zromayn also ad-hoc is generally deprecated and won't work anyway.
[23:51] <zromayn> tlambert: I'm trying to get it working with "allow client-updates"
[23:52] <zromayn> tlambert: which is the THE INTERIM DNS UPDATE SCHEME, according to the ubuntu manpages http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/en/man5/dhcpd.conf.5.html but the thing is that the manpages doesn't specify which dhcp3-server file I need to modify :S
[23:53] <parapa> Jordan_U they said I need 32bit GL libraries working, where would i get those
[23:53] <djbpython1> how much disk space do i need for a typical ubuntu install?
[23:53] <tlambert> ddns-update-style interim; ddns-updates on; -- then configure your DNS server to accept updates from your DHCP server via RFC 2136.
[23:55] <tlambert> zromayn if you do not control your DNS server configuration, this will likely not help you.
[23:55] <catcher> is there any shorthand for climbing directories in bash?  I find myself wasting time typing ../../../../
[23:56] <zromayn> tlambert: thank you. so the ddns-update-style interim; parameter goes into my /etc/dhcp/db.* file?
[23:57] <jrib> catcher: probably easier to start at / :)  Some people make aliases like ... and ...., etc.
[23:57] <tlambert> zromayn it goes into your dhcpd.conf file in the scope you want it to apply, of if you have broken out config files per scope, in one or more of those.
[23:58] <SARMAD> hi
[23:58] <Monsterwizard> hi
[23:58] <SARMAD> how  r u?
[23:59] <zromayn> tlambert: thank you, let me play with it to see if it works. btw, how can I get the dhcp3-server service to bounce? i have tried different options such as sudo service dhcpd restart or sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart with no avail