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Fudge | would xubuntu run any good on 1gig ram with a 2ghz athlon 3200 | 01:31 |
GridCube | yes | 01:32 |
Fudge | thans GridCube | 01:32 |
GridCube | np | 01:33 |
Fudge | now would i be better off using vinux to install xubuntu-desktop on or trying to install xubuntu or get a tar of a vanilla install i can use. im blind and use screen readers | 01:33 |
* Fudge pings charlie-tca | 01:33 | |
GridCube | i don't know Fudge :( | 01:34 |
Fudge | mm | 01:35 |
Fudge | me neither loL | 01:35 |
GridCube | Fudge, I would probably go and install vinux and then do a xubuntu-desktop | 01:36 |
Fudge | cool | 01:36 |
Fudge | sounds like a plan, ill just kill xdm gdm what ever and startx | 01:37 |
Unit193 | !purexfce | Fudge | 01:37 |
ubottu | Fudge: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 01:37 |
Fudge | Unit193 ive come across that before thanks muchly | 01:37 |
GridCube | but you might even try to install xubuntu vanilla using the livecd and manually installing a screen reader to it to use the installer, Fudge | 01:38 |
Fudge | dont think it would hurt leaving them there though would it, for gtk dependencies i may need? | 01:38 |
GridCube | they shouldn load so it would not matter if they are there or not | 01:38 |
Fudge | could try that too GridCube , whats the installer? ubiquity like ubuntu | 01:38 |
Unit193 | Well, I would think there might be a little clash (nautilus) | 01:39 |
Fudge | i need that | 01:39 |
Fudge | hense the things i need :D | 01:39 |
GridCube | Fudge, yes xubuntu uses ubiquity | 01:40 |
Fudge | is the new ver out yet? | 01:40 |
GridCube | in less than two weeks | 01:40 |
GridCube | :) | 01:40 |
Fudge | oh man | 01:40 |
Fudge | ill have to wait | 01:40 |
GridCube | well thats for the final beta | 01:41 |
Fudge | the box im thinking of i thought the onboard vid was stuffed, ofc i was still using it but then when i plugged this one in my monitor still didnt work lol | 01:41 |
Unit193 | Nope, it will be out in 7-8 days | 01:41 |
Fudge | xubuntu builds at the same time doesnt it? | 01:41 |
Fudge | hense no delay waiting for xubuntu post oneiric release schedule | 01:42 |
GridCube | nope same date | 01:42 |
Fudge | sw33t | 01:43 |
Fudge | Unit193 i seem to be following you around | 01:44 |
Unit193 | Fudge: Yep. Stalker... | 01:44 |
Fudge | loL | 01:44 |
Fudge | charlie-tca you need to invest in cdrw's | 01:52 |
Fudge | loL | 01:52 |
Unit193 | Fudge: Mind joining us on offtopic? It's not too noisy to try | 01:52 |
Fudge | sure | 01:53 |
uofm49426 | every time i reboot my sound mixer is alway mute well the front mixer | 06:18 |
uofm49426 | using xubuntu 10.10 have hda ati sb | 06:19 |
uofm49426 | do i have to save mixer settings | 06:23 |
anthony | is there anyway to get my dual monitor setup to not mirror in xubuntu? | 07:55 |
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Guest92676 | to extend rather | 07:55 |
Guest92676 | than mirror | 07:55 |
Sysi | use arandr or grandr or ati or nvidia tool | 07:56 |
Guest92676 | won't let me open ati catalyst as admin | 08:00 |
Guest92676 | for some reason | 08:00 |
Guest92676 | When i click on ATI Catalyst Control it wont let me open as admin | 08:02 |
Sysi | it asks for a passwd and then just won't open? | 08:03 |
Sysi | or what | 08:03 |
Guest92676 | doesn't prompt for password | 08:03 |
Guest92676 | I click and nothing happens | 08:03 |
Sysi | try "gksudo $APPNAME" in terminal, you can find out $APPNAME by typing couple of characters and pressing tab (twice) | 08:05 |
Guest92676 | sysi | 08:27 |
Guest92676 | I tried to run it it prompts me for password | 08:28 |
Guest92676 | then nothing comes up | 08:28 |
Guest92676 | after i enter password | 08:28 |
Sysi | any messages in terminal? | 08:31 |
Guest92676 | i don't think so | 08:43 |
anthony_ | Can anybody help me get my dual monitor setup to span horizontally as opposed to mirroring each other, for some strange reason i can't open administrative catalyst control center | 09:31 |
TheSheep | what is administrative catalyst? | 09:39 |
anthony_ | ATI Catalyst Control Center (Administrative) | 09:40 |
TheSheep | I'm pretty sure that's not a part of xubuntu | 09:45 |
TheSheep | can you pastebin the result of 'xrandr'? | 09:46 |
anthony_ | well i have an ATI video card | 09:48 |
anthony_ | im gonna crash out, ill mess with it tomorrow | 09:49 |
anthony_ | thanks though | 09:49 |
madnick | anthony_: | 09:56 |
madnick | i dont think you can open the GUI one because it wont prompt for password | 09:56 |
madnick | so use the terminal and type sudo amdcccle | 09:56 |
madnick | it will open the gui one | 09:57 |
knome | gksudo ?:P | 09:57 |
madnick | yes | 09:57 |
madnick | that is a good idea | 09:57 |
madnick | But does xubuntu ship with it? | 09:58 |
knome | it should be installed | 09:58 |
csenger41 | hy everyone :) | 09:59 |
knome | hello | 09:59 |
csenger41 | knome: how can give executable bit for an EXE file on an NTFS partition? | 10:00 |
knome | !ntfs | 10:00 |
ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 10:00 |
knome | first make sure it's in writable state | 10:00 |
knome | after that, it should be exactly the same as with every other fs: 'chmod +x filename' | 10:01 |
m6locks | might need some precompiled modules installed for kernel | 10:03 |
m6locks | whoops, *zzzap* | 10:04 |
csenger41 | ok, editing done, gonna restart, lets hope it will work XD | 10:17 |
Zenger | Hi guys, can you please tell me how to start the "close,minimize,maximize and the title bar" , they dissapeared | 10:27 |
Zenger | i've tried xfwm4 | 10:27 |
Zenger | it gives a bunch of errors and does nothing :( | 10:27 |
Zenger | even with --replace | 10:28 |
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mattt_ | My screen is going blank on boot - same thing happened during the install and I had to specify the nomodereset (I think) option. But now that xUbuntu is installed I'm encountering the same issue, even when booting in recovery mode. | 13:48 |
well_laid_lawn | mattt_: you'll need to add the kernel boot option permanantly in grub | 13:50 |
well_laid_lawn | !grub | 13:50 |
ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 13:50 |
mattt_ | Which option? "nomodereset"? | 13:50 |
well_laid_lawn | if that's what works yes | 13:50 |
well_laid_lawn | you can try it at one boot only by editing the kernel line at the grub prompt | 13:51 |
mattt_ | yeah that's what I'm doing, just can't remember exactly what the option was | 13:51 |
mattt_ | ah, nomodeset | 13:51 |
well_laid_lawn | there you go :) | 13:51 |
ikonia | part | 14:09 |
ikonia | damn | 14:09 |
Name141 | is there a way to get that 'old' xubuntu look in 11.04? | 15:01 |
Name141 | Where you have places/applications at the top | 15:01 |
cYmen | I need something to throttle my cpu when the temperature gets to 95 degrees. Does anybody know any tools? | 15:01 |
knome | Name141, yes, change the panel properties | 15:02 |
Sysi | cYmen: your bios should do that | 15:02 |
cYmen | Sysi: hm...well either my bios finds higher values acceptable than my ubuntu | 15:03 |
cYmen | or it just doesn't give a shit :) | 15:03 |
cYmen | but the only thing that happens is that the damn machine suddenly shuts down when it reaches 100 degress | 15:03 |
cYmen | degrees | 15:04 |
Name141 | knome: never mind. I see that all that stuff is on the left now with a little icon to click it seems, rather than the whatever it's called that comes up at the bottom that reminds me of 'quick launch' in windows | 15:04 |
charlie-tca | !language | cYmen | 15:04 |
ubottu | cYmen: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 15:04 |
ElderDryas | cYmen: Please tell me that's 100F not C | 15:04 |
cYmen | ElderDryas: that's not what the sensors say... | 15:05 |
Sysi | shutting down at 100C sounds normal | 15:05 |
cYmen | but maybe that's just a wrong setting | 15:05 |
ElderDryas | Sorry all, I just had problems imagining a computer that I could biol my water for tea :) | 15:05 |
cYmen | well..if you have suggestions how I can check | 15:06 |
Name141 | knome: it seems that 11.04 would be ok then. When is 11.10 schedualed ? | 15:06 |
cYmen | I just installed lm-sensors because the damn thing kept shutting down. :) | 15:06 |
knome | Name141, 13.10. | 15:12 |
knome | Name141, one week | 15:12 |
ElderDryas | cYmen: I reallycant help with the lm-sensors or such, but I'd look hard at my hardware, software and environment as to why my computer regularly (?) got to a temp 100C. Does the fan work? Are the air vents clear? Is the computer placed somewhere that has good airflow? What am I doing on the computer that makes the cpu(s) work so hard? Things like that | 15:24 |
Name141 | knome: seems like it'd be a waste of time then to go on and install 11.04 since I'd have to go on and update in a week | 15:59 |
knome | Name141, if you can, i think it makes sense to wait. | 16:00 |
Sysi | 11.04 will be supported for a year after 11.10 release but if you see it that way, 11.10 should work pretty well already if you grab daily build | 16:00 |
ElderDryas | Name141: For what it's worth, the 11.10B2 I installed (and update daily) appears extremely stab;e (fo me). You might want to look at that if you're anxious to upgrade | 16:01 |
Name141 | ElderDryas: I'm just looking to get off of XP since I'm not gaming on this machine anymore. Unity they are pushing on Ubuntu users for some reason is a pile of junk. | 16:01 |
ElderDryas | Then the daily build (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/) that Sysi mention might be worth looking at | 16:02 |
ElderDryas | And you can do it today :) | 16:03 |
Name141 | ElderDryas: I'm on limited bandwith. My FAP limit is 425 MBs per rolling 24 hours. | 16:03 |
Name141 | so.. no I can't do it today lol | 16:03 |
Name141 | 1-6 AM is "unlimited" though (about 2 GBs is all I can get in) | 16:04 |
Name141 | so.. I guess I could schedual it for then .. but.. then.. I'd have a whole bunch of updates later? | 16:04 |
Sysi | on daily-built image, no | 16:05 |
ElderDryas | with the daily build the updates should be minimal | 16:05 |
Name141 | ahh.. I think I'll just wait. I mean .. it's only a week. | 16:05 |
Name141 | That'll give me time to move everything over on the next partition and not forget anything on C: I hope :D | 16:06 |
Name141 | The next question is, with a E2160 and 2GBs of 667 DDR2 RAM.. I'm assuming I wont notice any difference in 32 and 64 bit ? | 16:07 |
ElderDryas | on my dell 1420, on inital boot, with 32 bit I use ~160MB, with 64 bit I use ~225MB (last time T looked) | 16:08 |
Name141 | This is an Inspiron 530. And the last mistake I'll make | 16:09 |
Name141 | (prebuilt machine = mistake) | 16:09 |
ElderDryas | It's a bit hard to custom build a laptop, not impossible I guess, but hard :) | 16:09 |
Name141 | that's a mistake itself :D | 16:10 |
ElderDryas | I have built more desktop machine than I can count (back in the day, that was the ONLY way). I don't do anything anymore that requires brute power, and I can't be bothered to expend the time and energy to research, acquire parts and build a machine anymore | 16:12 |
Name141 | I was just saying that laptops usually break in the pack at the plugin deal from unplugging re-plugging | 16:13 |
Name141 | back | 16:15 |
ElderDryas | but back to 32 vs 64...unless you do anything that will benifit from 64 bit (video transcription, etc), then with 2 GIG RAM, I see no reason to use 64 bit. On the other hand my laptop has 2 gig and I don't do anything like video, but I use the 64 bit :) | 16:15 |
Name141 | I wont be doing that stuff on my E2160. | 16:15 |
Name141 | I doubt I'll ever bother buying it more RAM either | 16:16 |
ElderDryas | But that's because I'm lazy...I keep hoping that my kids will get me 4GIG of RAM for B-Day or X-mas, then all I need to do is plug it in | 16:16 |
Name141 | RAM is only around $40 now for 2GBs or so ? o.O | 16:17 |
Name141 | sometimes 4 | 16:17 |
ElderDryas | I guess, I never look...I just tell the kids "Gimmie" :) | 16:17 |
Name141 | Maybe I need to get me a few money slaves ...err kids then :D | 16:17 |
Name141 | Think I can adopt one that's 17.11 ? | 16:19 |
Name141 | with .1 (one month) left to file the adoption papers.. | 16:19 |
Name141 | then be like "Get to work!" | 16:19 |
Name141 | er.. anyway | 16:19 |
ElderDryas | Money Slaves? Obviously you've never put 3 daughters thru college? | 16:20 |
Name141 | ..oh snap | 16:21 |
Name141 | I didn't even put myself through college... but I keep.. thinking about it.. I mean it's not.. TOO late.. | 16:21 |
ElderDryas | "back to work" :) 2GIG of RAM is usually plenty, even with 64bit. The only time I ever got close to SWAP was when a PFD to EPUB translation went into an endless loop. Other than than that I can't remember the last time I even got close to using 1GIG in normal use. | 16:23 |
ElderDryas | So...you pays your money and takes your chances... | 16:24 |
ElderDryas | One more thing (then I'll shut up, promise). I'm pretty sure (can someone confirm/deny this?) that Xubuntu 64 bit installs the 32 bit libraries, so if you need a 32 bit app, no problem. | 16:29 |
Name141 | eh.. I'll just install 32 | 16:44 |
knome | ElderDryas, 32-bit applications will work on 64-bit too | 16:46 |
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landley | I used usb-creator-gtk in xubuntu 10.04.02 to make a beta2 install key. | 19:48 |
landley | It defaulted to 128 meg home partition. | 19:48 |
landley | This filled up downloading updates, causing the install to throw errors while still asking questions. | 19:49 |
landley | I rebooted, but the partition was still full and the boot hung in text mode after failing to find/mount network drives. | 19:50 |
landley | Making a new usb stick with ramfs /home now. | 19:51 |
landley | Not exactly thrilled by the experience so far. | 19:51 |
TheSheep | apt-get clean <-- this removes the downloaded packages | 19:51 |
landley | It does not reboot. | 19:52 |
landley | Tried three times. | 19:52 |
landley | Cannot boot from usb key with full /home partition. | 19:52 |
TheSheep | um, apt-get doesn't download to /home | 19:53 |
TheSheep | it downloads to /usr/lib afair | 19:53 |
TheSheep | or /var | 19:53 |
landley | when booting install cd from a usb key? | 19:53 |
TheSheep | well, I don't know if that's different | 19:54 |
TheSheep | might be, because it would be the only writable place if booted from cd | 19:54 |
landley | I'm just telling you what it did, I have no idea why it did it. | 19:55 |
landley | "Install went down in flames, thought you might want to know." | 19:56 |
TheSheep | not really, but you might want to file a bug report so that the actual devs would look at it | 19:56 |
TheSheep | this channel is mostly users | 19:56 |
Name141 | What does encrypt home actually do? | 20:07 |
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