[00:00] #xubuntu-offtopic [01:31] would xubuntu run any good on 1gig ram with a 2ghz athlon 3200 [01:32] yes [01:32] thans GridCube [01:33] np [01:33] now would i be better off using vinux to install xubuntu-desktop on or trying to install xubuntu or get a tar of a vanilla install i can use. im blind and use screen readers [01:33] * Fudge pings charlie-tca [01:34] i don't know Fudge :( [01:35] mm [01:35] me neither loL [01:36] Fudge, I would probably go and install vinux and then do a xubuntu-desktop [01:36] cool [01:37] sounds like a plan, ill just kill xdm gdm what ever and startx [01:37] !purexfce | Fudge [01:37] Fudge: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [01:37] Unit193 ive come across that before thanks muchly [01:38] but you might even try to install xubuntu vanilla using the livecd and manually installing a screen reader to it to use the installer, Fudge [01:38] dont think it would hurt leaving them there though would it, for gtk dependencies i may need? [01:38] they shouldn load so it would not matter if they are there or not [01:38] could try that too GridCube , whats the installer? ubiquity like ubuntu [01:39] Well, I would think there might be a little clash (nautilus) [01:39] i need that [01:39] hense the things i need :D [01:40] Fudge, yes xubuntu uses ubiquity [01:40] is the new ver out yet? [01:40] in less than two weeks [01:40] :) [01:40] oh man [01:40] ill have to wait [01:41] well thats for the final beta [01:41] the box im thinking of i thought the onboard vid was stuffed, ofc i was still using it but then when i plugged this one in my monitor still didnt work lol [01:41] Nope, it will be out in 7-8 days [01:41] xubuntu builds at the same time doesnt it? [01:42] hense no delay waiting for xubuntu post oneiric release schedule [01:42] nope same date [01:43] sw33t [01:44] Unit193 i seem to be following you around [01:44] Fudge: Yep. Stalker... [01:44] loL [01:52] charlie-tca you need to invest in cdrw's [01:52] loL [01:52] Fudge: Mind joining us on offtopic? It's not too noisy to try [01:53] sure [06:18] every time i reboot my sound mixer is alway mute well the front mixer [06:19] using xubuntu 10.10 have hda ati sb [06:23] do i have to save mixer settings [07:55] is there anyway to get my dual monitor setup to not mirror in xubuntu? === anthony is now known as Guest92676 [07:55] to extend rather [07:55] than mirror [07:56] use arandr or grandr or ati or nvidia tool [08:00] won't let me open ati catalyst as admin [08:00] for some reason [08:02] When i click on ATI Catalyst Control it wont let me open as admin [08:03] it asks for a passwd and then just won't open? [08:03] or what [08:03] doesn't prompt for password [08:03] I click and nothing happens [08:05] try "gksudo $APPNAME" in terminal, you can find out $APPNAME by typing couple of characters and pressing tab (twice) [08:27] sysi [08:28] I tried to run it it prompts me for password [08:28] then nothing comes up [08:28] after i enter password [08:31] any messages in terminal? [08:43] i don't think so [09:31] Can anybody help me get my dual monitor setup to span horizontally as opposed to mirroring each other, for some strange reason i can't open administrative catalyst control center [09:39] what is administrative catalyst? [09:40] ATI Catalyst Control Center (Administrative) [09:45] I'm pretty sure that's not a part of xubuntu [09:46] can you pastebin the result of 'xrandr'? [09:48] well i have an ATI video card [09:49] im gonna crash out, ill mess with it tomorrow [09:49] thanks though [09:56] anthony_: [09:56] i dont think you can open the GUI one because it wont prompt for password [09:56] so use the terminal and type sudo amdcccle [09:57] it will open the gui one [09:57] gksudo ?:P [09:57] yes [09:57] that is a good idea [09:58] But does xubuntu ship with it? [09:58] it should be installed [09:59] hy everyone :) [09:59] hello [10:00] knome: how can give executable bit for an EXE file on an NTFS partition? [10:00] !ntfs [10:00] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [10:00] first make sure it's in writable state [10:01] after that, it should be exactly the same as with every other fs: 'chmod +x filename' [10:03] might need some precompiled modules installed for kernel [10:04] whoops, *zzzap* [10:17] ok, editing done, gonna restart, lets hope it will work XD [10:27] Hi guys, can you please tell me how to start the "close,minimize,maximize and the title bar" , they dissapeared [10:27] i've tried xfwm4 [10:27] it gives a bunch of errors and does nothing :( [10:28] even with --replace === epzil0n_ is now known as epzil0n [13:48] My screen is going blank on boot - same thing happened during the install and I had to specify the nomodereset (I think) option. But now that xUbuntu is installed I'm encountering the same issue, even when booting in recovery mode. [13:50] mattt_: you'll need to add the kernel boot option permanantly in grub [13:50] !grub [13:50] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [13:50] Which option? "nomodereset"? [13:50] if that's what works yes [13:51] you can try it at one boot only by editing the kernel line at the grub prompt [13:51] yeah that's what I'm doing, just can't remember exactly what the option was [13:51] ah, nomodeset [13:51] there you go :) [14:09] part [14:09] damn [15:01] is there a way to get that 'old' xubuntu look in 11.04? [15:01] Where you have places/applications at the top [15:01] I need something to throttle my cpu when the temperature gets to 95 degrees. Does anybody know any tools? [15:02] Name141, yes, change the panel properties [15:02] cYmen: your bios should do that [15:03] Sysi: hm...well either my bios finds higher values acceptable than my ubuntu [15:03] or it just doesn't give a shit :) [15:03] but the only thing that happens is that the damn machine suddenly shuts down when it reaches 100 degress [15:04] degrees [15:04] knome: never mind. I see that all that stuff is on the left now with a little icon to click it seems, rather than the whatever it's called that comes up at the bottom that reminds me of 'quick launch' in windows [15:04] !language | cYmen [15:04] cYmen: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [15:04] cYmen: Please tell me that's 100F not C [15:05] ElderDryas: that's not what the sensors say... [15:05] shutting down at 100C sounds normal [15:05] but maybe that's just a wrong setting [15:05] Sorry all, I just had problems imagining a computer that I could biol my water for tea :) [15:06] well..if you have suggestions how I can check [15:06] knome: it seems that 11.04 would be ok then. When is 11.10 schedualed ? [15:06] I just installed lm-sensors because the damn thing kept shutting down. :) [15:12] Name141, 13.10. [15:12] Name141, one week [15:24] cYmen: I reallycant help with the lm-sensors or such, but I'd look hard at my hardware, software and environment as to why my computer regularly (?) got to a temp 100C. Does the fan work? Are the air vents clear? Is the computer placed somewhere that has good airflow? What am I doing on the computer that makes the cpu(s) work so hard? Things like that [15:59] knome: seems like it'd be a waste of time then to go on and install 11.04 since I'd have to go on and update in a week [16:00] Name141, if you can, i think it makes sense to wait. [16:00] 11.04 will be supported for a year after 11.10 release but if you see it that way, 11.10 should work pretty well already if you grab daily build [16:01] Name141: For what it's worth, the 11.10B2 I installed (and update daily) appears extremely stab;e (fo me). You might want to look at that if you're anxious to upgrade [16:01] ElderDryas: I'm just looking to get off of XP since I'm not gaming on this machine anymore. Unity they are pushing on Ubuntu users for some reason is a pile of junk. [16:02] Then the daily build (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/) that Sysi mention might be worth looking at [16:03] And you can do it today :) [16:03] ElderDryas: I'm on limited bandwith. My FAP limit is 425 MBs per rolling 24 hours. [16:03] so.. no I can't do it today lol [16:04] 1-6 AM is "unlimited" though (about 2 GBs is all I can get in) [16:04] so.. I guess I could schedual it for then .. but.. then.. I'd have a whole bunch of updates later? [16:05] on daily-built image, no [16:05] with the daily build the updates should be minimal [16:05] ahh.. I think I'll just wait. I mean .. it's only a week. [16:06] That'll give me time to move everything over on the next partition and not forget anything on C: I hope :D [16:07] The next question is, with a E2160 and 2GBs of 667 DDR2 RAM.. I'm assuming I wont notice any difference in 32 and 64 bit ? [16:08] on my dell 1420, on inital boot, with 32 bit I use ~160MB, with 64 bit I use ~225MB (last time T looked) [16:09] This is an Inspiron 530. And the last mistake I'll make [16:09] (prebuilt machine = mistake) [16:09] It's a bit hard to custom build a laptop, not impossible I guess, but hard :) [16:10] that's a mistake itself :D [16:12] I have built more desktop machine than I can count (back in the day, that was the ONLY way). I don't do anything anymore that requires brute power, and I can't be bothered to expend the time and energy to research, acquire parts and build a machine anymore [16:13] I was just saying that laptops usually break in the pack at the plugin deal from unplugging re-plugging [16:15] back [16:15] but back to 32 vs 64...unless you do anything that will benifit from 64 bit (video transcription, etc), then with 2 GIG RAM, I see no reason to use 64 bit. On the other hand my laptop has 2 gig and I don't do anything like video, but I use the 64 bit :) [16:15] I wont be doing that stuff on my E2160. [16:16] I doubt I'll ever bother buying it more RAM either [16:16] But that's because I'm lazy...I keep hoping that my kids will get me 4GIG of RAM for B-Day or X-mas, then all I need to do is plug it in [16:17] RAM is only around $40 now for 2GBs or so ? o.O [16:17] sometimes 4 [16:17] I guess, I never look...I just tell the kids "Gimmie" :) [16:17] Maybe I need to get me a few money slaves ...err kids then :D [16:19] Think I can adopt one that's 17.11 ? [16:19] with .1 (one month) left to file the adoption papers.. [16:19] then be like "Get to work!" [16:19] er.. anyway [16:20] Money Slaves? Obviously you've never put 3 daughters thru college? [16:21] ..oh snap [16:21] I didn't even put myself through college... but I keep.. thinking about it.. I mean it's not.. TOO late.. [16:23] "back to work" :) 2GIG of RAM is usually plenty, even with 64bit. The only time I ever got close to SWAP was when a PFD to EPUB translation went into an endless loop. Other than than that I can't remember the last time I even got close to using 1GIG in normal use. [16:24] So...you pays your money and takes your chances... [16:29] One more thing (then I'll shut up, promise). I'm pretty sure (can someone confirm/deny this?) that Xubuntu 64 bit installs the 32 bit libraries, so if you need a 32 bit app, no problem. [16:44] eh.. I'll just install 32 [16:46] ElderDryas, 32-bit applications will work on 64-bit too === anthony_ is now known as ANthonyxu === Evixion` is now known as Evixion [19:48] I used usb-creator-gtk in xubuntu 10.04.02 to make a beta2 install key. [19:48] It defaulted to 128 meg home partition. [19:49] This filled up downloading updates, causing the install to throw errors while still asking questions. [19:50] I rebooted, but the partition was still full and the boot hung in text mode after failing to find/mount network drives. [19:51] Making a new usb stick with ramfs /home now. [19:51] Not exactly thrilled by the experience so far. [19:51] apt-get clean <-- this removes the downloaded packages [19:52] It does not reboot. [19:52] Tried three times. [19:52] Cannot boot from usb key with full /home partition. [19:53] um, apt-get doesn't download to /home [19:53] it downloads to /usr/lib afair [19:53] or /var [19:53] when booting install cd from a usb key? [19:54] well, I don't know if that's different [19:54] might be, because it would be the only writable place if booted from cd [19:55] I'm just telling you what it did, I have no idea why it did it. [19:56] "Install went down in flames, thought you might want to know." [19:56] not really, but you might want to file a bug report so that the actual devs would look at it [19:56] this channel is mostly users [20:07] What does encrypt home actually do? === xenoxaos_ is now known as xenoxaos === Olbi|2 is now known as Olbi