| === IdleOne is now known as pangolin | ||
| jita | my menubar is gone, how can i get it back ? | 07:05 |
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| rdi | hello, could anyone give me a link to how to improve font displaying in lubuntu. I cannot find anything | 11:20 |
| === alphabetical_ome is now known as c933103 | ||
| silverarrow | hi | 12:49 |
| silverarrow | anyone trying the beta? | 12:49 |
| silverarrow | I found a series of lubuntus launched todays | 12:50 |
| silverarrow | perhaps daily builds? | 12:50 |
| silverarrow | hi mark76 | 12:51 |
| silverarrow | sprays bioterror with something very disinfective | 12:52 |
| bioterror | if the url says dailybuild, then it's dailybuilds ;) | 12:52 |
| bioterror | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 12:52 |
| silverarrow | makes him less of a danger | 12:53 |
| * silverarrow wonders if all he needs is a deodorant | 12:54 | |
| silverarrow | that's the page I'm on | 12:54 |
| silverarrow | would these upgrade to the final release version along the way? | 12:54 |
| bioterror | yes they will upgrade | 12:54 |
| silverarrow | I will take the chance then | 12:55 |
| silverarrow | It is so close to the final release now | 12:55 |
| silverarrow | bugs are hopefully not detrimental | 12:55 |
| silverarrow | have you tried softmaker for lubuntu? | 12:57 |
| silverarrow | an unusually small full feature office | 12:57 |
| silverarrow | I have libre office | 12:57 |
| silverarrow | most seem to be a fork of open office | 12:57 |
| silverarrow | derivative is perhaps a better word | 12:57 |
| === silverarrow is now known as bigyesyes1 | ||
| === bigyesyes1 is now known as silverarrow | ||
| bioterror | bigyesyes1, libreoffice == openoffice, without java and oracle | 13:01 |
| silverarrow | I see | 13:01 |
| silverarrow | I have been very happy with libre | 13:01 |
| bioterror | mostly we all ;) | 13:02 |
| silverarrow | softmaker is new to me, but it works | 13:02 |
| silverarrow | works great with lubuntu | 13:03 |
| silverarrow | softmaker has issues with printing | 13:03 |
| silverarrow | or maybe it is puppyliux | 13:04 |
| silverarrow | anyhow, I am partitioning the hard drive, and plan a clean install of lubuntu | 13:05 |
| silverarrow | half for lubuntu, and half for storage on ntfs | 13:05 |
| silverarrow | I need some documents to be accessable in windows | 13:05 |
| === silverarrow is now known as not-that-bignono | ||
| === not-that-bignono is now known as silverarrow | ||
| silverarrow | I am making an attempt at dual boot in lubuntu | 13:14 |
| silverarrow | what would be easies, making two partitions, let puppy on one and then at last install lubuntu | 13:17 |
| silverarrow | or puppy linux after lubuntu? I find grubs are difficult | 13:17 |
| silverarrow | last time I tried dual booting I only got a black screen | 13:25 |
| grifo74 | hello i use lubuntu 11.04 when 11.10 is out if i update my 11.04 all my instaled software work perfectly | 13:46 |
| xsaidx | hello guys | 13:47 |
| xsaidx | in the lxkeypam is there any trayicon thingy so ican change my lang keymap easily ? | 13:47 |
| grifo74 | or is better install a new version and all software too (sorry about my englis but i´m portuguese and i give many errors) | 13:47 |
| grifo74 | yes exist i´m not with lubuntu now but it´s easy | 13:48 |
| xsaidx | grifo74: you talkin to me ? ; ] | 13:49 |
| grifo74 | yes | 13:50 |
| silverarrow | yes, software should work fine after an upgrade, but the odd issue is know to pop up sometimes | 13:50 |
| silverarrow | like you probably have to login with password and username, | 13:50 |
| silverarrow | I have updated before with out too much troulbe | 13:51 |
| silverarrow | however, this time I am doing a clean new install too | 13:51 |
| xsaidx | grifo74: what i mean when i change the keymap ill have an icon notification in my bar at the bottom | 13:51 |
| xsaidx | silverarrow: btw whats your problem ? | 13:52 |
| silverarrow | Grub2 worries | 13:52 |
| grifo74 | thanks silverarrow | 13:52 |
| silverarrow | and dual boot | 13:52 |
| xsaidx | silverarrow: so now aht do you have exactly ?? you cant boot your system ? | 13:53 |
| silverarrow | an upgrade takes time, so prepare a good walk with the dog, a pot of tea, and a tv show | 13:53 |
| grifo74 | :-) | 13:53 |
| grifo74 | i have all time | 13:53 |
| silverarrow | I have had issues with grub earlier, and all I got was a black screen at bootup. This time I am partitioning the hard driven, then will do an install of lubuntu on the large part, and puppy linux on the smaller | 13:54 |
| silverarrow | I have decided to stick with grub2 | 13:54 |
| grifo74 | after ubunt change to unity i change to pclinuxos(roling distro) but now i find lubuntu and i like its my favorite distro | 13:55 |
| silverarrow | and I am wondering if default grub in lubuntu, can be made to work with puppy linux, | 13:55 |
| grifo74 | remastersys work fine on lubuntu?? | 13:56 |
| silverarrow | xsaidx, would you recommend an install of lubuntu first, than puppy liux, or the other way around to make grub2 adjust most easily ? | 13:57 |
| === Mkaysi is now known as Mk4y5| | ||
| karol_ | hello | 16:52 |
| mmaksimov | Hi, karol_ | 16:54 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | mmaksimov, late =] | 16:55 |
| mmaksimov | IAmNotThatGuy. my mistake ;) | 16:56 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | it happens =D | 16:57 |
| wxl | anyone know if there's an 11.04 ppc version somewhere? | 17:55 |
| wxl | or frankly any version earlier than 11.10? :D | 17:56 |
| bioterror | you can install ppc version of ubuntu and fetch lubuntu packages? | 17:58 |
| wxl | yeah there's that | 18:07 |
| wxl | which kinda somewhat defeats the purpose of lubuntu | 18:07 |
| wxl | basically i have to install a bunch of crap so i can get rid of a bunch of crap | 18:07 |
| bioterror | how so? | 18:07 |
| bioterror | http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/natty/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc64/netboot/mini.iso | 18:08 |
| bioterror | you're welcome | 18:08 |
| wxl | well i certainly don't want gnome | 18:08 |
| wxl | (no thank you, didn't say 64) :) | 18:09 |
| bioterror | http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/natty/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/mini.iso | 18:09 |
| wxl | the end result of any ubuntu installation (from my understanding, but tell me otherwise) is that you get the whole bag of tricks | 18:10 |
| wxl | unless you bother to remove what you don't want | 18:10 |
| bioterror | !mini | wxl | 18:10 |
| ubot5 | wxl: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 18:10 |
| wxl | i stand corrected | 18:10 |
| wxl | lubuntu-meta is the appropriate package i'm assuming? | 18:13 |
| bioterror | lubuntu-core or lubuntu-desktop | 18:13 |
| wxl | what's the difference, if any? | 18:14 |
| bioterror | sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktio --no-install-recommends | 18:14 |
| bioterror | with lubuntu-core you get just needed "lubuntu" packages and you can fetch what ever you really need | 18:14 |
| wxl | so it's basically just the de and not all the apps per se | 18:15 |
| wxl | ? | 18:15 |
| bioterror | yes | 18:15 |
| wxl | you rock, bioterror | 18:15 |
| bioterror | we'll see in few minutes do I really rock :D | 18:16 |
| wxl | well it'll take me a while | 18:16 |
| wxl | i'm at work | 18:16 |
| wxl | powerbook's at home | 18:16 |
| bioterror | you have 12" G4? | 18:16 |
| wxl | i could set up qemu but.. yeah, no. | 18:16 |
| wxl | yep | 18:16 |
| bioterror | niiiiiceee | 18:16 |
| bioterror | I've been wanting one since 2003 | 18:16 |
| wxl | hah, funny | 18:16 |
| wxl | whatcha got for trade? ;) | 18:17 |
| bioterror | at the moment nothing much | 18:17 |
| wxl | i was kidding anyways | 18:17 |
| wxl | i rather like the thing | 18:17 |
| bioterror | I've got rid of about all of my computer stuff | 18:17 |
| bioterror | that I dont need | 18:17 |
| wxl | i keep debating abotu whether or not i want to keep os x on it | 18:18 |
| bioterror | you dont want to keep it | 18:18 |
| wxl | i also had to, for irony's sake, really resist the urge to not put freebsd on it | 18:18 |
| bioterror | they have 10.7 out and you're using probably 10.4 or 10.5 | 18:18 |
| wxl | 10.5 | 18:18 |
| bioterror | when I run 10.4, I met problems with "this version of OS X no longer supported" :D | 18:19 |
| bioterror | ran | 18:19 |
| wxl | which is a little laggy frankly | 18:19 |
| wxl | right | 18:19 |
| wxl | and that's soon to be the case in the age of 10.7 | 18:19 |
| bioterror | dunno if that happens to 10.5 now | 18:19 |
| wxl | there's a few things | 18:19 |
| wxl | can't do the latest firefox | 18:19 |
| bioterror | shame | 18:20 |
| wxl | have you seen http://www.maconlinux.org/ ? | 18:20 |
| bioterror | wxl, http://www.morphos.de/ ;) | 18:22 |
| wxl | hah | 18:22 |
| bioterror | http://www.morphos.de/screenshot_twozero.jpg | 18:24 |
| bioterror | that can be run on your powerbook ;) | 18:24 |
| wxl | seriously morphos just brings back the memories :D | 18:33 |
| m6locks | damn, that morphos makes me wwish i had an amiga :P | 18:34 |
| m6locks | RIP 68k | 18:34 |
| wxl | it's tempting to have it laying around.. just like baremetal os.. but that's a totally just for fun kind of thing http://www.returninfinity.com/baremetal.html | 18:35 |
| m6locks | or OS/2 | 18:35 |
| m6locks | hmm, gonna reinstall snow leopard with a newer version of parallels just to get those weird and oh-so-random operating systems work | 18:36 |
| wxl | hahah | 18:36 |
| wxl | what no virtualbox? | 18:36 |
| m6locks | hmm not on my linux cos its a netbook | 18:37 |
| m6locks | or is it available on mac? | 18:37 |
| wxl | naw i mean on yr mac | 18:37 |
| wxl | yep | 18:37 |
| m6locks | hmm never tried it, is it any good? | 18:37 |
| wxl | yeah it's fab | 18:37 |
| wxl | i've never run parallels so i can't exactly compare but i've never had a problem with vbox | 18:37 |
| wxl | it's got some cool features like an rdp backdoor | 18:38 |
| m6locks | well, parallels is kinda huge | 18:38 |
| wxl | check this out: https://bikefridaywalter.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/do-windows-without-getting-your-hands-dirty/ | 18:38 |
| m6locks | i'd prefer a lighter platform | 18:38 |
| m6locks | nice, thanks | 18:38 |
| m6locks | hmm which processors does virtualbox have support for? | 18:39 |
| wxl | not ppc if that's your question | 18:39 |
| m6locks | aye | 18:39 |
| wxl | but that link discusses using it remotely | 18:40 |
| m6locks | cos it woulda been nice to have tried that one out | 18:40 |
| bioterror | m6locks, I have A1200 in closet ;) | 18:40 |
| bioterror | m6locks, 120 euros and it can be yours ;) | 18:40 |
| wxl | so i'm leveraging a non-ppc computer to do the heavy lifting | 18:40 |
| m6locks | bioterror: lol | 18:40 |
| wxl | unfortunately hardware virtualization on ppc SUXXXXXXXXX | 18:40 |
| bioterror | it comes with mikronics tower case and 10Mbit PCMCIA NIC ;) | 18:40 |
| m6locks | why arent you using it | 18:41 |
| wxl | as i pointed out in the post, i about poked my eyes out just trying to run fluxbox on debian because of how slow it is | 18:41 |
| bioterror | how fluxbox can be slow? :o | 18:41 |
| m6locks | aye, they can suck ass | 18:41 |
| wxl | too many cycles spent trying to handle virtualization | 18:41 |
| wxl | not enough left over to do much else | 18:41 |
| wxl | it can be done, but it's not fun | 18:42 |
| wxl | certainly not productive | 18:42 |
| m6locks | intel is so meh, why didnt apple stick with motorola | 18:42 |
| wxl | i don't mind intel | 18:42 |
| wxl | arm would have been an interesting change :D | 18:43 |
| bioterror | m6locks, becouse G5 was too hot | 18:43 |
| bioterror | they were unable to put it inside laptop for example | 18:43 |
| m6locks | hmm seems they didnt fix that one with core2 macbooks :D | 18:43 |
| m6locks | cos mine is like an oven | 18:43 |
| wxl | i think part of that is the case design | 18:44 |
| m6locks | its constantly at 80 degreesC :P | 18:44 |
| wxl | open up any apple and it's like "holy shit how did all this get in here???!!" | 18:44 |
| m6locks | well true that, they have managed to fit stuff there | 18:44 |
| wxl | they've gotten better but it's not great | 18:45 |
| m6locks | but its hard to keep cool | 18:45 |
| bioterror | and that 1st gen G5 powermac and all the failures with coolant fluids | 18:45 |
| wxl | heh | 18:45 |
| m6locks | actually waitin for them super kickass laptops with no harddrive and just really fast memory | 18:45 |
| wxl | keep waiting | 18:46 |
| bioterror | m6locks, you can buy macbook air with SSD | 18:46 |
| m6locks | its comin, i read stuff that they can use some weird forms of crystals of whatever that is lightning-fast | 18:46 |
| wxl | i read something or other about making the memory more directly accessible | 18:46 |
| wxl | no bus | 18:46 |
| m6locks | bioterror: but ssd aint that fast | 18:46 |
| bioterror | m6locks, I bet it's fast ;) | 18:47 |
| m6locks | naw, not THAT fast | 18:47 |
| m6locks | hmm if i find that link i | 18:47 |
| m6locks | ll post it | 18:47 |
| wxl | ditto | 18:48 |
| wxl | i can't find it anywhere | 18:48 |
| wxl | i think it was on slashdot | 18:48 |
| wxl | or wired | 18:48 |
| wxl | or | 18:48 |
| wxl | yeah, nevermind | 18:48 |
| m6locks | aye :) | 18:48 |
| wxl | hm maybe i'm just thinking of this whole von neumann quantum computer.. http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/09/01/2040248/First-Von-Neumann-Architecture-Quantum-Computer?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter | 18:52 |
| m6locks | i might have been talking about this http://www.dailytech.com/New+Device+Unifies+RAM+and+Flash+Could+Revolutionize+Electronics/article20730.htm | 18:54 |
| wxl | ohhhh the memristor | 18:56 |
| m6locks | looks cool, just have huge arrays of RAM | 18:57 |
| w30 | m6locks, I hate reading about stuff like that. It makes me want one but I will be dead before they hit the market. | 19:09 |
| w30 | m6locks, I won't even have to worry about the YK2038 32 bit bug | 19:10 |
| wxl | heh | 19:13 |
| m6locks | the speed at which technology is developing is exponential, it will take pretty much no time at all for that to hit the market | 19:15 |
| bioterror | would you like to join #lubuntu-offtopic, as this channel is mainly for support and gets logged | 19:16 |
| wxl | w/e mr. morphos ;) | 19:16 |
| wxl | } // shut up now | 19:17 |
| bioterror | you can continue there | 19:17 |
| bioterror | ;) | 19:17 |
| bioterror | I'm off to pickup RS232 cable and usb adapter | 19:17 |
| wxl | mmm fun | 19:18 |
| wxl | a serial terror, eh? | 19:18 |
| silverarrow | hi | 19:41 |
| silverarrow | does it matter if I use lubuntu or xubuntu on a comptuer with 1GB ram? | 19:41 |
| silverarrow | Totem is way to heavy for my cpu | 19:41 |
| silverarrow | lubuntu is working fine though, maybe just stick with it | 19:42 |
| silverarrow | I tend to test options | 19:42 |
| silverarrow | no one here? | 19:59 |
| wxl | xubuntu still has lingering gnome crap on it silverarrow | 20:04 |
| wxl | it's the "lightweight" ubuntu that isn't | 20:04 |
| wxl | you might find this perspective useful http://maketecheasier.com/lubuntu-review-a-lightweight-ubuntu-variant/2010/05/06 | 20:05 |
| wxl | besides, if it's not broken don't fix it | 20:05 |
| silverarrow | hi | 20:23 |
| silverarrow | I need lightweight | 20:24 |
| grifo74 | hello how i make my lubuntu reconect 4Gb | 20:56 |
| bioterror | grifo74, you have 4GB hard drive and you cant install lubuntu? | 20:58 |
| wxl | or did you disconnect a 4gb usb and need to remount it? | 20:58 |
| wxl | or... ?????? | 20:58 |
| grifo74 | no 4gb memory | 20:59 |
| bioterror | or are you talking about 4GB of RAM is showing only ~3GB | 20:59 |
| bioterror | grifo74, use PAE-kernel or 64bit Lubuntu | 20:59 |
| grifo74 | how i install pae-kernel | 20:59 |
| grifo74 | and after i install pae-kernel how i uninstall old kernel | 21:00 |
| head_victim | !pae | grifo74 | 21:06 |
| ubot5 | grifo74: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info | 21:06 |
| head_victim | I'm about to head out but that might give you more information. | 21:07 |
| wxl | wow i didn't know about that limitation | 21:07 |
| wxl | that's odd | 21:07 |
| head_victim | wxl: not odd at all. It's a hardware limitation | 21:07 |
| bioterror | wxl, seems like you've learned today a lot ;) | 21:08 |
| grifo74 | thanks i go try the comand to install pae-kernel | 21:09 |
| bioterror | pae-kernel is not better than real 64bit system ;) | 21:10 |
| wxl | so is that true for 10 and 11 that it should automatically pick up on your memory and install the right kernel? | 21:10 |
| bioterror | wxl, mini.iso for example comes with "server" kernel | 21:11 |
| bioterror | whichis pae | 21:11 |
| bioterror | and alternative | 21:11 |
| wxl | pae can work on x86 with <3.2gb ram, right? is it necessarily worse than a standard 32? (makes sense that 64>pae) | 21:12 |
| grifo74 | yes i no but after a make a remaster if i want install in a machine non 64bits dont work and sometimes im my work i use i live pen with remaster and my favorite software and my pc is non 64bits lol | 21:12 |
| grifo74 | in future all machines work with 64bits and then 128bits but now many people use 32 bits pc | 21:16 |
| bioterror | I see lots of 64bit computers running 32bit XP ;) | 21:16 |
| wxl | not to go off topic *cowers under the watchful gaze of bioterror*, but we'll be counting in qubits soon enough :D | 21:17 |
| phillw | wxl: that is why we have #lubuntu-offtopic :P | 22:24 |
| bioterror | phillw, did you get it working? | 22:45 |
| wxl | bioterror: to go back to a previous discussion, does that mini.iso necessarily install gdm or is that an option, too? | 22:46 |
| bioterror | wxl, mini.iso takes you into console only | 22:46 |
| bioterror | then you can install what ever you want | 22:46 |
| wxl | oh, tay | 22:46 |
| bioterror | it has no X11 | 22:47 |
| bioterror | it's pure console | 22:47 |
| wxl | i get it now | 22:47 |
| Zetacu | hello i'm new installing lubuntu and i want to try if my tvcard is compatible. In this page it say it is. But i do'nt understand what they mean about the modules: tuner_xc2028 and cx8800. how can I install those o what I need to do to enable them? | 23:12 |
| Zetacu | the page is this one http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Powercolor_Real_Angel_330 | 23:13 |
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