[00:05] <pythonsnake> nhaines, really ? o.O
[00:06] <pythonsnake> ****!
[00:06] <pythonsnake> ****! ***!
[00:07] <pythonsnake> Can't be :(
[00:07] <pythonsnake> SD is also ext4
[00:14] <nhaines> pythonsnake: ouch!
[00:14] <nhaines> pythonsnake: well, do you have a friend who can burn the ISO for you?
[00:15] <pythonsnake> hmm
[00:15] <pythonsnake> Better to buy a cd
[00:16] <pythonsnake> nhaines, is it possible to boot from internet HDD ?
[00:18] <nhaines> pythonsnake: sometimes, but I have never tried it.
[00:21] <pythonsnake> Good night
[00:22] <pythonsnake> will continue tomorrow
[00:23] <nhaines> pythonsnake: good night, and good luck!
[00:40] <emorris> Hey, I think something weird happened with updates. Today I did a clean install from Beta 2 iso, then did an upgrade. But the directories like ~/Documents ~/Music etc have now gone, and I was also downloading a torrent, which finished, but disappeared. Could this be to do with some update, or some other weird thing going on? My home is encrypted so I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
[00:56] <ali1234> i'm still getting random compiz crashes :(
[00:56] <ali1234> only now apport doesn't detect it
[00:56] <ali1234> like it exited normally
[01:23] <lucas-arg> is there any extension for unity or gnome-shell to use a screensaver?
[01:26] <jbicha> lucas-arg: try xscreensaver
[01:27] <lucas-arg> jbicha, let me see
[02:02] <anadon> What would  have to do to change all the load bars to nyancat?
[03:28] <MTecknology> I thught there was a daily build for the server iso... no?
[03:28] <MTecknology> i see only alternate
[03:49] <rww> !daily
[03:50] <rww> I don't think we do anything that's not on there (apart from derivatives)
[03:50] <rww> oh, I'm a liar. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[03:53] <SetiAmon> 11.10 is coming out on the 13th right?
[04:06] <pangolin> SetiAmon: That is what they say so far
[04:07] <MTecknology> rww: doh- thanks!
[04:08] <rww> So I guess no release canadiate today :3
[04:14] <Asad2005> currently i have 11.04 installed 64bit because i have more than 4 GB Ram. What would be best way to go to 11.10 ? Should i go for fresh install or upgrade ? If fresh install i would prefer the 32bit but will the new kernel support more than 4 GB ram automatically ?
[04:15] <bjsnider> the pae kernel would be selected automatically in that event, if you clean installed
[04:17] <Asad2005> So fresh install would be best ? but can i use same home folder to have all my personnel settings ?
[04:18] <MTecknology> pae has been arounnd for a long time
[04:18] <MTecknology> Asad2005: pae is only for >3GB RAM && <64 bit
[04:18] <bjsnider> Asad2005, did you mount /home on a different partition?
[04:19] <MTecknology> clean install is usually best .. i almost always to the upgrade, though
[04:19] <MTecknology> the dev guys do too good of a jab of making it seamless
[04:20] <Asad2005> I use to do it that way but this time since i have an SSD drive i kept it in same partition but i have it backed up
[04:20] <MTecknology> aside from a reboot, i can upgrade a server without anyone ever noticing......... not so true for rhel........ ... (<rage>)
[04:20] <bjsnider> Asad2005, well, if it's backed up you don't have much to worry about
[04:21] <MTecknology> i did a basic package update and an rhel system destroyed itself... turns out the devs knew and just never bothered to fix it
[04:21] <Asad2005> Is there away to directly upgrade and at the same time go to 32bit from 64bit ?
[04:21] <MTecknology> nope
[04:22] <MTecknology> Xbit -> Ybit == clean install
[04:22] <micahg> not yet
[04:22] <MTecknology> micahg: it's planned to be possible!?!?
[04:23] <micahg> MTecknology: the beauty of multiarch
[04:23] <MTecknology>  O_O
[04:23] <MTecknology> micahg: gosh dang ubuntu sure is swell!!!!
[04:23] <MTecknology> rhel still requires a clean install for a release upgrade
[04:24] <micahg> MTecknology: we're not there yet, and I have no idea when
[04:24] <MTecknology> micahg: just consideration of it blows my mind... so that's why the package break stuff a while back
[04:25] <MTecknology> the burbon might help the mind blowing, but i'm impressed :)
[04:26] <MTecknology> ... you ever want to beat the crap out of yourself for choosing a 20+ char WPA key that you can't copy/paste?
[04:26] <MTecknology> micahg: also awesome... my wifi card detected like magic
[04:27] <Asad2005> I have installed airplay plugin in totem and tired several times, unfortunately only once or twice it worked for me and could not find a way out may be i needed to restart a service. Could this be related to i am on 64bit?
[04:28] <alteregoa> hello dudes and stuff
[04:28] <MTecknology> 32 character WPA key...... i may have gone overkill.......
[04:28] <alteregoa> someone tried prelink with ubulu?
[04:28] <alteregoa> i tried prelink and had some wierd errors
[04:29] <alteregoa> the prelink is incompatible with oneric?
[04:29] <micahg> MTecknology: http://xkcd.com/936/
[04:30] <alteregoa> i use a btrfs mirror root
[04:30] <MTecknology> micahg: you ever see GRC Passwords? I just used the whole string
[04:31] <MTecknology> I think I lost my router login credentials...
[04:47] <SetiAmon> is there a better full disk encryption choice then lvx?
[04:47] <SetiAmon> luks
[04:51] <jan77> hi
[04:53] <jan77> how can I tell oneiric that my printer has duplex?
[04:56] <alteregoa> talk to it
[04:57] <alteregoa> using what?
[05:03] <wxl> hey folks having an issue on the ppc version
[05:03] <wxl> live cd loads up fine
[05:03] <wxl> wallpaper loads
[05:04] <wxl> and then just as the desktop is to appear, it like overlays the wallpaper
[05:04] <wxl> main desktop is white
[05:05] <wxl> panel at top looks approrpriate
[05:05] <wxl> left panel lacks icons
[05:05] <wxl> wt?
[05:08] <vsync_> jan77 cups?
[05:09] <jan77> standard ubuntu - so I guess: yes
[05:09] <jan77> good point!
[05:12] <MTecknology> so.... 'Installation step failed' This happened right after partitioning. Just moving into installing the base system.
[05:12] <madurax86> hello, im getting random freezes and dont have anything on logs, sysrq doesnt work when frozen..what can i do?
[05:12] <MTecknology> Any troubleshooting tips?
[05:13] <MTecknology> WARNING **: Configuring 'bootstrap-base' failed with error code '
[05:13] <MTecknology> error code 1 **
[05:23] <jan77> vsync_: I configured my printer via cups directly - thanks!
[05:32] <bazhang> !info flashplugin-installer
[05:56] <maxb> There used to be a GUI tool to configure policykit policy in ubuntu
[05:56] <maxb> Where has that gone, in oneiric?
[06:04] <maxb> oh what?! Upstream killed it?!
[06:31] <calaveraFN> Still no RC?
[06:33] <dino__> by this time, we should have had a RC
[06:33] <dino__> I am not sure why we don't have one either
[06:33] <bazhang> no dl'able one, no
[06:33] <bazhang> just update and you will be RC
[06:34] <dino__> so, we don't usually have a dl'able RC?
[06:34] <dino__> alright then. just do apt-get update && upgrade
[06:34] <bazhang> doubt it will differ from the final, if at all
[06:34] <bazhang> yeppers
[06:35] <dino__> but oneiric is quite buggy for me. nautilus crashes more often than not
[06:35] <bazhang> file a bug then
[06:35] <dino__> filed one already
[06:38] <dino__> well, anything interesting to share?
[06:39] <tasslehoff> my system fails installing the Additional ATI drivers. jockey.log: http://pastebin.com/krmjV34i
[06:40] <dino__> ATI drivers for wireless drivers or graphic drivers?
[06:40] <bazhang> graphics
[06:41] <dino__> lucky my comp's graphics are supported.
[06:41] <dino__> by something called intel iron lake mobile.
[06:45] <tasslehoff> dino__: graphics drivers
[06:46] <dino__> yeah i got that
[06:47] <tasslehoff> read only your line, answered and read on. sorry :)
[06:47] <tasslehoff> soon awake now
[07:07] <tasslehoff> how can alt-tab behaviour be configured to switch only between the windows on the current workspace?
[07:07] <th_> i remember seeing option like that in compizcontrol panel
[07:08] <th_> under unity plugin
[07:30] <tasslehoff> th_: thanks. one can set a bias to prefer the current viewport, but that's all I can find
[07:30] <th_> tasslehoff: yeah that one, doesn't it do that?
[07:31] <th_> i always just use ctrl-w
[07:31] <th_> :)
[07:31] <tasslehoff> th_: I still get all the windows
[07:31] <th_> hm, try logout/login
[07:31] <tasslehoff> ctrl-w being a shortcut you have set?
[07:32] <th_> ctrl-w is default shortcut for showing 'expose'
[07:32] <th_> better than alt-tab :p
[07:32] <calaveraFN> Oneiric is still very buggy. No unity 3D, no cheese, no bluetooth, no flash. Filed bugs for everything, but I doubt all of then can be fixed in less than a week. :(
[07:32] <th_> unity and flash work just fine for me in oneiric :o
[07:32] <vega-> weird, i have alt-fX set to "switch to desktop X", then when i press alt-f2 it switches to desktop 2 but also brings up the "run command" dialog
[07:33] <tasslehoff> th_: ah, it's <super> that's the default here at least
[07:33] <th_> aaah yes sorry super-w
[07:33] <th_> it's really handy when you get used to it
[07:34] <th_> actually you can bind it to any screen corner from compizconfig too
[07:35] <tasslehoff> th_: yep. I've been on osx too long and have forgotten my compiz-fu. thanks :)
[07:36] <th_> os x *shivers*
[07:36]  * th_ has to use OS X daily at work, rage
[07:36] <th_> fury of steve jobs has prevented me from installing ubuntu on this macbook pro :P
[07:36] <th_> doesn't boot from usb stick, "super"drive can't read cdrw's
[07:37] <th_> one day i will buy some cd-r's and hope they work with this crappy drive
[07:39] <tasslehoff> th_: Ubuntu worked really well on my MBP, but after I got an SSD I haven't dared installing it, since I will have to patch the kernel.
[07:39] <th_> i used ubuntu on my old macbook pro but been too lazy to install it on this unibody one
[07:40] <th_> as this crap can't boot from usb :P
[07:40] <th_> unless it's OS X on a stick..
[07:41] <tasslehoff> hm. when I try to setup dual monitor it complains about the virtual size being to small, and doesn't offer to fix it for me like in 11.04
[07:41] <tasslehoff> just throws an error message at me
[08:15] <farciarz84> I got such error: err:ole:CoCreateInstance apartment not initialised
[08:15] <farciarz84> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly
[08:16] <farciarz84> but when glxinfo | grep 'direct'
[08:16] <farciarz84> direct rendering: Yes
[08:16] <farciarz84> what's the problem then?
[08:18] <murlidhar> can anyone give me the link for the lastest cd image iso ?
[08:19] <jbicha> !daily
[08:19] <murlidhar> for oneiric ofcourse
[08:19] <murlidhar> ah
[08:19] <murlidhar> thanks
[08:21] <murlidhar> bye all :)
[08:21] <murlidhar> thanks for the link jbicha
[08:21] <murlidhar> take cares
[08:23] <farciarz84> at wine channel they said I have no 32-bit opengl dirvers installed but I have i32 multiarch. How to check this?
[08:33] <farciarz84> after apt-get dist-upgrade I got this problem: trace:wgl:wglGetProcAddress func: 'wglGetIntegerv'
[08:33] <farciarz84> trace:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo GL version             : 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 7.11).
[08:33] <farciarz84> trace:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo GL renderer            : Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Desktop .
[08:33] <farciarz84> trace:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo GLX version            : 1.4.
[08:33] <farciarz84> trace:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Server GLX version     : 1.4.
[08:33] <farciarz84> trace:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Server GLX vendor:     : SGI.
[08:33] <farciarz84> trace:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Client GLX version     : 1.4.
[08:33] <farciarz84> trace:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Client GLX vendor:     : Mesa Project and SGI.
[08:33] <farciarz84> trace:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering enabled: False
[08:33] <farciarz84> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly
[08:33] <farciarz84> please help
[08:51] <farciarz84> ia32-libs fault, it's installing a mesa /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1 that is higher priority to ldconfig than the proprietary driver ones in /usr/lib32/foo/libGL.so.1
[08:54] <freedom07> is there a release party channel yet?
[08:55] <rww> freedom07: it's not currently open
[08:56] <freedom07> ok thanks
[08:59] <th_> 13th is the final release?
[09:00] <th_> worrying amount of critical bugs left..
[09:01] <th_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/856138 even this still exists, window decorations just don't work
[09:06] <jk-> possibly stupid question: how do I set the global font size?
[09:07] <th_> not at all stupid question, you can't change fonts by default
[09:07] <th_> :-)
[09:07] <rww> th_: yay time-based releases, where we release with RC bugs because the calendar says so!
[09:07] <th_> there is global font change size dialog in accessibility options though, but that's it
[09:08] <th_> which reminds me of a bug that probably won't get fixed for oneiric either
[09:08] <farciarz84> th_: oneiric bugs are scary....
[09:08] <th_> http://www.foopics.com/showfull/c0c5a35e21f264e5eb717cb182b9f83d <- this
[09:08] <farciarz84> I can't imagine it go to mainstream
[09:08] <pdq> can install gnome tweak tool if want a gui to change fon sizes, icons, themes etc.
[09:09] <malte`> aren't we a bit late on the RC release? :P
[09:09] <th_> dash breaks if you change font size: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/c0c5a35e21f264e5eb717cb182b9f83d
[09:09] <jk-> looks like i have a couple of settings in gconf
[09:09] <th_> pdq: i don't even have words how retarded that is :/
[09:09] <th_> gnome3 is such a fail :/
[09:10] <kire> Why is ask.com the only search engine in firefox after an upgrade to 11.10?
[09:10] <pdq> for an easy to use gui for doing things that should be part of gnome settings? that's retarded :P
[09:11] <farciarz84> th_: I tolerate gnome3 but the critical bug preventing normal system usage are scary.
[09:11] <kire> and more importantly: how can I get google back?
[09:11] <farciarz84> bugs*
[09:11] <th_> pdq: having to install "tweak tools" to change fonts IS retarded. and having sane configuration options would save the world from million questions: "how do i change fonts?!"
[09:13] <th_> shame i can't install 10.04 on my computer, because parted segfaults right at when it reads my hd (can't partition, installer won't proceed due the segfault), and first version where this is fixed is 11.04... =P
[09:13] <th_> and no hope of getting these critical fixes backported to old versions as usual..
[09:14] <farciarz84> th_: I would stay with 10.04 definately but have sandybridge machine wich is not supported. If I knew that I'd stay with AMD.
[09:15] <farciarz84> ubutnu doesn't like intel anymore
[09:15] <th_> debian will probably get this parted segfault fix to install images in 2014 or something.. =P
[09:15] <farciarz84> maybe I'll switch to linux mint. We'll see
[09:15] <th_> that's same cake rolled with new graphics, not worth it
[09:16] <farciarz84> th_: doesn't have gnome3 and unity.
[09:16] <farciarz84> but this is not a problem really, problem is with GPU hangs all the time, basic drivers and it support.
[09:17] <th_> i've mostly migrated to windows7 due all these bugs and gnome3, the future looks grim for linux desktop. insanity :/
[09:17] <farciarz84> th_: have you tried kde?
[09:17] <th_> yes
[09:17] <farciarz84> and?
[09:17] <th_> kde has always been a mess. and still is
[09:17] <pdq> it is retarded i agree yep. but that tool is an easy to use workaround for someone who wants to change those things easily w/ a gui
[09:17] <th_> well, it's not total disaster, but kde + ati drivers = bug galore
[09:18] <th_> every time i (try to) tab out of warsow for example, ati drivers give complete freeze, need to hard reset
[09:18] <th_> (only with kde)
[09:19] <th_> also changing to any tty and coming back to X -> screen just showing rainbow colors, hard reset again..
[09:19] <farciarz84> th_: I think users need first of all working evironment and then 'nice' evironment
[09:20] <th_> i wish that i'd experiment at least one crash-free day with linux. but that's just wild dreams.
[09:20] <th_> =P
[09:20] <th_> software quality in general is abysmal, and this "wanna report a bug which we don't really care for anyway"- dialog is starting to piss me off :P
[09:22] <th_> all of them just get closed as 'incomplete' every time, asking for more info/stacktrace/whatever, how users are expected to get these things? stuff just randomly crashes. annoying.
[09:23] <farciarz84> th_: maybe a solution is to have 2 dedicated GPU for linux with open, really working drivers and full support. Or just one. Then everyone knows 'if you want ubuntu with all of its Appearance" buy let's say ATI. And all core programmers will focus on ati and build one the hell working driver.
[09:24] <th_> not to sound overly critical anyway - ubuntu still has a place in my heart :)
[09:25] <th_> also hiding that launcherbar by default in unity is worst thing ever
[09:25] <farciarz84> :)
[09:27] <th_> i could code a nice clean config utility for system prefernces to tune that, without compizconfig ui bizarness but why bother when it wouldn't get included anyway.
[09:28] <farciarz84> th_: you should buy OS X :P
[09:28] <th_> i have os x in my face right now
[09:28] <th_> and i hate it with passion :)
[09:29] <farciarz84> oh so I see ubuntu is a annoying tool but best ever:)
[09:30] <th_> windows7 is the least annoying and buggy of all os'es tbh :)
[09:31] <farciarz84> th_: but the comfort of using it is horrible
[09:31] <th_> farciarz84: not really
[09:32] <th_> ui is fast, never lags, and it's just nice to use
[09:32] <pdq> very stable here, other than the dash appearing below windows bug nothing i use broke from upgrade other than cryptfolder indicator, haven't had any serious crashes. or the error dialog come up anymore since last few days updates. the default install does suck though and launcher not useable :P awn+dockbarx and hide the launcher :)
[09:33] <th_> both of those launchers have some serious problems
[09:33] <th_> tried them both
[09:33] <th_> i don't mean looking ugly but plain bugs :)
[09:34] <th_> worst one with awn iirc was that if you launch opengl software/game in smaller resoluion than your desktop, awn gets stuck to that resolution after you quit the game
[09:34] <th_> only way to move it back to bottom is to kill it
[09:34] <th_> unacceptable
[09:34] <pdq> the new nautilus is pretty boring and no options. was used to nautilus-elementary
[09:35] <pdq> and nautilus-actions not compatible that i know of
[09:35] <farciarz84> th_: I prefer much more gnome 2.x then windows UI eperience
[09:35] <pdq> i dont game on linux :P
[09:35] <farciarz84> ex*...
[09:52] <kire> seriously, since upgrade to ubuntu oneiric, the default search engine in firefox is ask.com and I can't even add google, what the heck is wrong? (would surprise me if it'd be an addon, I was fully updated before upgrade and didn't have the problem then)
[10:14] <and471> Hi, I accidentally made my account a non-administrator account and I can't set it back (because I don't have permissions)
[10:14] <and471> how can I set it back to an Administrator account?
[10:21] <FernandoMiguel> And4... he left
[10:24] <francis_> I used to be able to stream web radio with firefox in 11.04 but can't do same since upgrade
[10:25] <francis_> I need help now I have installed all plugins including xine-plugins and the restricted extras
[11:50] <szymon_g> hi
[11:51] <szymon_g> how can i change the font of the title bar? i tried to use gnome-tweak-tool, but it didn't change it. here is a screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/screenshotat20111007124.png/ the font on left is ok, the font on bar isn't
[11:56] <pdq> i had to logout and log back in before it worked correctly and show the changes immediately
[11:57] <szymon_g> brb
[12:39] <joris> Is there a way to move the dash to my primary screen and not to the one on the left?
[12:40] <joris> It seems that Unity isn't following the Nvidia settings anymore
[12:45] <joris> It was working in natty but not in oneiric anymore. Could be a bug, but anyone else had this issue and found a workaround?
[12:45] <bphillips> I am having issues getting compiz running inside an Ubuntu 11.10 (beta 2) vmware guest (running on top of Win7).  When I try compiz --replace at the shell, it errors out and starts metacity.  Here is the error output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703930/
[12:45] <bphillips> any suggestions?
[12:50] <bbigras__> Will there be a release candidate or should I use the beta 2?
[12:50] <Ian_Corne> there will not be a release
[12:50] <Ian_Corne> candidate iso
[12:52] <bphillips> any ideas on the compiz issue I pasted?
[12:52] <bbigras__> Ian_Corne: Thanks!
[12:54] <drussell> bphillips: I've only seen that once in the last few weeks
[12:54] <drussell> bphillips: and the way I recovered from it was by rebooting, everything was fine after that
[12:54] <drussell> bphillips: ahh re-reading your earlier comment I can see the problem
[12:55] <drussell> bphillips: vmware guests don't have the 3d support required for unity
[12:55] <drussell> bphillips: try using unity-2d
[12:56] <bphillips> drussell: am I using unity-2d by default if compiz fails?
[12:56] <myk_robinson> any of you able to access the scaling feature in Vinagre Remote Desktop?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:57] <drussell> bphillips: what does "dpkg -l unity-2d" say?
[12:58] <bphillips> drussell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703944/
[12:59] <drussell> bphillips: ok, so when you start the guest, what happens when you select unity-2d instead of unity before you login?
[13:00] <ironhali1> why, doing apt-get update, most sources have 'ign' in front of em? is it 'ignore'? I dont get pretty much any updates besides chrome, which source has no 'ign' :>
[13:02] <bphillips> drussell: looks like that's what I'm running...  Very disappointing that vmware's 3d acceleration isn't sufficient :-(
[13:02] <bphillips> thanks for the help
[13:02] <drussell> bphillips: np
[13:02] <drussell> bphillips: afaik only virtualbox has sufficient 3d accel
[13:07] <matyy> hey is it normal, that desktopcouch-service is constantly crashing? I don't really know how to report it since I have no idea what is causing it
[13:23] <joris> Ok I found out that it is intended behaviour to move the Unity dash to the left screen...
[13:24] <joris> There seems to be no easy workaround...
[14:06] <pelmen> Guys, need help. Installed 11.10 and Gnome3-shell, but on autologin LightDM shows "Unable to start ubuntu session" How do i change session to gnome3 ?
[14:06] <pangolin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[14:06] <pelmen> 11.10 does not have gdm
[14:06] <pangolin> gnome-shell use lightDM ?
[14:06] <pangolin> uses*
[14:07] <Pici> lightdm is the default dm in a fresh Oneiric install.
[14:07] <pangolin> Pici: right but if you install gnome-shell doesn't it install gdm also?
[14:07] <pelmen> nope
[14:07] <Pici> dunno
[14:07] <pangolin> or is gnome3 using lightdm also?
[14:08] <pelmen> lighdm or gdm is just a session manager. you can be using XDM with Gnome-shell
[14:08] <pelmen> back to my question
[14:08] <pelmen> :)
[14:08] <pelmen> how do i change default session in lightdm
[14:17] <brendand> pelmen - did you choose Gnome shell from the Cog in the top right corner of the password box in lightdm?
[14:17] <fossala> Can anyone else unlock the lock-screen screen?
[14:18] <fossala> or is it a bug?
[14:20] <tomodachi> fossala: with gnome-screensaver i believe you can do it from the terminal as well..
[14:22] <fossala> Yeah, standard ubuntu with unity 2d
[14:22] <fossala> when it locks I cannot unlock it.
[14:26] <fossala> It only happens when I have 2 keyboard layouts.
[14:30] <fossala> It seems that you cannot type passwords or lock the screen with "CTRL+ALT+L" in the "secondary" layout.
[14:31] <fossala> I have swapped the layouts so dvorak was secondary and qwerty was primary and it was still only the primary one that could lock or unlock the screen.
[14:45] <mintlars> anyone know the status of RC release?
[14:46] <charlie-tca> There will not be one
[14:46] <charlie-tca> We will have a final release in one week
[15:00] <M1> If I download the latest oneiric daily build, is it the same thing as downloading Beta2 and updates?
[15:04] <charlie-tca> M1: yes
[15:15] <cwillu_at_work> how does one disable password-on-resume in this new age?
[15:16] <cwillu_at_work> (given that I auto-login, keeping literally nothing of value on this laptop)
[15:20] <user82> where can i find a list of changes(bugs etc) since yesterday. somewhere in launchpad i guess?
[15:22] <cwillu_at_work> user82, apt can give you the changelogs for a given package
[15:23] <user82> hmh..ok. i wanted to know if major changes were made to yesterdays daily build for example..so for given packages does not really help here
[15:24] <cwillu_at_work> you mean the livecd images?
[15:24] <user82> yes
[15:25] <cwillu_at_work> I don't know for a fact, but I expect they're just the sum of the packages
[15:25] <user82> you may remeber the big rumor about RC yesterday..so i wanted to check if the daily build got any changes from yesterday to today
[15:25] <cwillu_at_work> aside from the actual details of the boot
[15:25] <M1> I'm downloading just the beta2
[15:26] <M1> going to install that one, and then download the updates
[15:26] <M1> they say it's basically the same thing
[15:27] <user82> think i need to re-install it anyway, gnome 3 shell broke unity...
[15:29] <user82> and the reboot un-broke it..
[15:37] <cwillu_at_work> ah, good; if I chmod -x gnome-screensaver, I can force suspend's locking to my will without doing anything silly like recompiling
[15:58] <gribouille> where is the RC?
[15:59] <pangolin> no rc
[16:00] <gribouille> pangolin, what?
[16:00] <genii-around> pangolin: You must stutter or something.
[16:00] <pangolin> there is no rc, you can use the daily
[16:01] <gribouille> pangolin, when will it be released?
[16:02] <pangolin> it won't, the schedule was not updated but there is no rc
[16:02] <gribouille> pangolin, when will oneiric be released?
[16:02] <pangolin> on the 13th
[16:03] <gribouille> pangolin, why isn't there any rc?
[16:03] <pangolin> There was an email iirc but I can't it right now.
[16:04] <pangolin> find it*
[16:05] <scotty^> Any kernel DRM folks here?  Could you please take a look at Launchpad bug #864814
[16:06] <scotty^> It's in Oneiric
[16:07] <charlie-tca> gribouille: mostly because the release team felt that week spent testing an RC the week before testing the Final candidates would be better spent fixing bugs
[16:10] <pangolin> charlie-tca: that is a good reason
[16:23] <physically_fit> is the left panel working fine? i updated today and it doesn't appear if i move my cursor to the left. i have to minimize my apps to see it
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> physically_fit: press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace
[16:23] <physically_fit> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> all better?
[16:25] <physically_fit> ActionParsnip, yep! :-) you are awesome
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> cowabunga!
[16:27] <sgerbino> anyone have issues with youtube on oneiric after an update a few days ago? Flash works on other sites, but bugs out on youtube itself :O
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> sgerbino: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf'
[16:33] <Dougie187> Does anyone in here use papi with 11.10?
[16:34] <Dougie187> when I run it's ./configure script I get the following error...
[16:34] <Dougie187> checking for dlopen and dlerror symbols in base system... not found
[16:34] <sgerbino> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/k6FFDkbm
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> sgerbino: if you can give the output, we can advise...
[16:35] <jtaylor> Dougie187: it probably needs fixing for multiarch
[16:35] <jtaylor> its not packageD?
[16:35] <Dougie187> I tried just adding the paths to my ld_library_path
[16:35] <Dougie187> no, it's only available from source.
[16:35] <Ian_Corne> ok though one
[16:36] <Ian_Corne> E: Internal Error, No file name for libgl1-mesa-glx
[16:36] <jtaylor> you could try LDFLAGS="-Lpath" ./configure
[16:36] <jtaylor> maybe its also an as-needed issue
[16:36] <jtaylor> then you need to fix the configure
[16:37] <Dougie187> ok, I'll give the LDFLAGS a shot.
[16:38] <bjsnider> sgerbino, check .xsession-errors for possible error msgs
[16:40] <Dougie187> LDFLAGS didn't work, at least when I did this...
[16:40] <Dougie187> ./configure LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -L/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu"
[16:42] <Auxilium> Anyone here?
[16:43] <cwillu_at_work> no
[16:43]  * cwillu_at_work glares
[16:43]  * FernandoMiguel pins cwillu_at_work to the celling ball
[16:43] <jtaylor> probably as-needed then
[16:44] <sgerbino> bjsnider: found some errors: http://pastebin.com/NyTqh3vV -- symbol lookup error
[16:44]  * cwillu_at_work shakes rumours of btrfsck at FernandoMiguel 
[16:44] <jtaylor> Dougie187: any information in config.log?
[16:44]  * FernandoMiguel looks at the corner and laughs
[16:44] <cwillu_at_work> (oracle is going to be using btrfs by default in their distro apparently)
[16:45] <Dougie187> jtaylor: something weird... I copied the code that configure uses to test it, and compiled it with -ldl and it worked fine.
[16:45] <Auxilium> What du you think about 11.10 so far? I was wondering if it is worth installing... Great anticipations...
[16:45] <jtaylor> dooglus: its an as needed problem
[16:45] <cwillu_at_work> FernandoMiguel, the mailing list is kinda amusing though, there an actual conspiracy theory thread going on that oracle is planning to keep fsck private to somehow make btrfs proprietary
[16:45] <jtaylor> sry Dougie187
[16:45] <cwillu_at_work> it's rather hilarious :p
[16:45] <Dougie187> np
[16:46] <FernandoMiguel> yay for oracle
[16:46] <cwillu_at_work> FernandoMiguel, yay for ubuntuforums users on dev mailing lists
[16:46] <Dougie187> jtaylor: so, how would you recommend fixing it in the configure?
[16:46] <jtaylor> Dougie187: fix is simple repklace LDFLAGS with LIBS where its testing for dl
[16:47] <Dougie187> ok
[16:47] <jtaylor> please report that upstream
[16:48] <FernandoMiguel> LMAO
[16:48] <tasslehoff> !nightly
[16:48] <tasslehoff> !nightlies
[16:49] <cwillu_at_work> /msg ubottu nightlies for hunting :p
[16:49] <pangolin> !daily
[16:49] <pangolin> We sleep at night :)
[16:50] <tasslehoff> pangolin: ah, I should've known :)
[16:50] <gizero> Hi guys. Is the RC expected today?
[16:50] <cwillu_at_work> pangolin, what a silly thing to do
[16:50] <Dougie187> jtaylor: just to make sure I understand. You mean replace ${LDFLAGS} where it's checking for -ldl with ${LIBS}, right?
[16:50] <pangolin> gizero: no.
[16:50] <bjsnider> cwillu_at_work, are you bloody killing me?
[16:50] <jtaylor> Dougie187: yes
[16:51] <Dougie187> or, should I do LDFLAGS=${LIBS}?
[16:51] <cwillu_at_work> bjsnider, hmm?
[16:51] <jtaylor> no both
[16:51] <bjsnider> about btrfsck
[16:51] <cwillu_at_work> bjsnider, what specifically?
[16:52] <cwillu_at_work> the conspiracy theory?
[16:52] <bjsnider> yeah
[16:52] <cwillu_at_work> """This smells more like post hoc justification of being territorial over a pet project than it does actual reasons for keeping the source a state secret of oracle.  Unless their is no intention of releasing the source, and Oracle intends to keep it a closed source product for their own linux distributions alone."""
[16:52] <bjsnider> that's totally absurd
[16:52] <tasslehoff> what are the amd64+mac images?
[16:52] <cwillu_at_work> apparently "desperate users will ignore any and all warnings, and make things worse in the process" is unimaginable to some
[16:53] <cwillu_at_work> I'm mildly amused that the vocal parties have no visible contributions to _any_ open source projects under their emails that I could find :p
[16:53] <bjsnider> i thinkt hey haven't come up with a fsck because they don't know how it fails yet
[16:54] <cwillu_at_work> I mean, even I've managed to post a couple shell scripts and a ill-conceived patch to how btrfs reports info to the df-relevant syscalls :p
[16:54] <cwillu_at_work> well, we've got a few good examples of how it fails to be honest
[16:54] <cwillu_at_work> but yeah, it's still very early
[16:55] <tasslehoff> gah, it says so right there on the page. doh.
[16:55] <bjsnider> once they know how it breaks they can design something to fix it
[16:55] <Dougie187> jtaylor: hmm.. I still can't get it to work for some reason
[16:56] <jtaylor> did you modify configure or configure.in?
[16:56] <Dougie187> configure
[16:57] <jtaylor> try doing it in configure.in and run autoconf
[16:58] <Dougie187> Ok, that seemed to work.
[16:58] <Dougie187> Oh, I got it to work in the configure too
[16:59] <Dougie187> I was changing the wrong thing. lol
[16:59] <Dougie187> I was changing it from LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS} -ldl" to LDFLAGS="${LIBS} -ldl" instead of LIBS="${LDFLAGS} -ldl"
[17:00] <jtaylor> no both to LIBS
[17:01] <Ian_Corne> lol
[17:01] <jtaylor> althoug it won't matter in that case if you only change the first
[17:01] <Dougie187> so, change it to LIBS="${LIBS} -ldl"?
[17:01] <jtaylor> yes
[17:01] <Dougie187> oh ok.
[17:01] <Dougie187> yeah, both of them work fine
[17:02] <jtaylor> please file a bug upstream so they fix it
[17:02] <jtaylor> its a common error
[17:02] <Dougie187> ok will do.
[17:03] <Dougie187> thanks for your help.
[17:03] <Dougie187> On another note. Is there a way to keep 11.10 from blanking the screen when a laptop lid is closed?
[17:04] <jtaylor> Dougie187:  here some example text you could copy: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=639284
[17:08] <Dougie187> jtaylor: should I report it specific to papi? or a general issue with the linker, as you mention in that bug report?
[17:09] <jtaylor> its a bug in their code
[17:09] <Dougie187> Ok
[17:09] <jtaylor> its relying that the linker has a certain behavior it never guaranteed
[17:10] <jtaylor> and this behavior is no disabled in many distributions
[17:17] <Dougie187> Thanks again for your help.
[17:21] <Dougie187> Now, onto my second issue. How can you make 11.10 not blank the screen when a laptop lid is closed.
[17:22] <jbicha> Dougie187: did you try System Settings>Power ?
[17:23] <Dougie187> yeah, I set it to do nothing when the lid is closed.
[17:23] <Dougie187> but it still blanks the screen
[17:42] <templet> where can i find oneiric themes that include different icons ?
[17:43] <jbicha> templet: the only other GTK3 theme I know in the repos is Adwaita (install gnome-themes-standard)
[17:44] <bjsnider> templet, if you just want to switch icon themes, there are lots of them packaged under *-icon-theme if you do a search
[17:49] <charlie-tca> Greybird is also GTK3 now.
[17:49] <frybye> Hi I have the 11.10 amd 64x desktop daily and dont seem to be able to find a "safe graphics" option when booting - any tips please?
[17:50] <frybye> F4 brings up an option of normal start of start using a cd with drivers.. but...?
[17:51] <frybye> e e e options - normal start OR start with cd drivers....
[18:00] <skaet> hiya,  for those interested in the release candidate images,  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ has the images we're using to dry run the release now.   On Sunday night we'll be building the candidates, so any testing people are able to do on the ISO tracker between now and Sunday would be very welcome.
[18:00] <pangolin> thank you for the info skaet :)
[18:02] <skaet> thanks!
[18:02]  * skaet will lurk here now until her flight to the release sprint if there are any questions ...  ;)
[18:27] <murlidhar> how to enable roll up feature for window manager ?
[18:27] <murlidhar> on mouse scrolling
[18:27] <murlidhar> mouse wheel*
[18:46] <robin0800> murlidhar, install gnome-tweak-tool
[18:47] <murlidhar> ah ok will do so . thanks robin0800
[18:48] <murlidhar> robin0800: there is no option there for mouse wheel scrolling :|
[18:49] <nagappan> I pasted the following in #ubuntu-testing
[18:49] <nagappan> anybody noticing this ? I upgrade yesterday my Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10, my X is not coming up and so the networking as well, currently I changed the /etc/network/interfaces to have eth0 entry and updating the package
[18:49] <nagappan> I think, my packages weren't upgraded properly due to ruby package conflict
 I had ruby 1.8 and 1.9.1
 now after removing it, more packages are being upgraded
 it keeps waiting for my network to come up
 waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration
[18:49] <nagappan> nagappan> my Ubuntu 11.10 is completely unusable :-( I need my X :-D
 I have NVidia driver installed
 it pops up with the NVidia logo
 and everything blank after that
[18:49] <nagappan> * nagappan checking Xorg.0.log
 my Xorg.0.log looks okay, http://pastebin.com/06NxYvZm
[18:49] <murlidhar> nagappan: please use a pastebin service
 If I remove my xorg.conf, I get nv module not found
 I copied xorg.conf from previous installation
 as the upgrade doesn't have any such file
[18:49] <Pici> ...
[18:49] <nagappan> <nagappan> when I login through console, I always get 'System restart required', even though I rebooted the system more than 5 times now !
 unable to connect system bus: Failed to connect to socket...
[18:50] <nagappan> murlidhar, yes I do
[18:50] <rww> !paste | nagappan
[18:50] <nagappan> murlidhar, but not for chatting
[18:50] <rww> also,
[18:50] <rww> !ask
[18:50] <rww> "all on ONE line"
[18:50] <cwillu_at_work> murlidhar, it's worth noting that the scroll wheel is actually just two more mouse buttons that are clicked automatically
[18:51] <cwillu_at_work> nagappan, you weren't chatting though, you were quoting yourself :p
[18:51] <cwillu_at_work> also, ardubdub
[18:51] <murlidhar> nagappan: you can also pastebin the chat and upload the link. there are ofcourse options to delete the pastebin automatically after certain time or after certain number of views if you are concerned about the privacy.
[18:51] <nagappan> cwillu_at_work, okay, sorry everyone
[18:52] <nagappan> can someone help on the issue ?
[18:52] <jlhenry> So apparently, there will be a Release Candidate http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/10/07/ubuntu-11-10-development-update-8/
[18:53] <murlidhar> nagappan: its tough to read what you have quoted in a channel . .. maybe a pastebin-ning it might help us follow your quotes easier.
[18:53] <nagappan> murlidhar, issue is, after I upgrade to 11.10 from 11.04, my X is gone
[18:53] <nagappan> murlidhar, also networking
[18:54] <murlidhar> cwillu_at_work: yes certainly is two more mouse buttons . just that i am used to mouse scrolling for rolling the windows up and down. :)
[18:54] <nagappan> murlidhar, I have manipulated the /etc/network/interfaces to bring X temporarily
[18:55] <murlidhar> nagappan: ah but i was not talking about myself but for everybody else to read it easily :)
[18:55] <nagappan> just incase this is my Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/06NxYvZm
[18:55] <cwillu_at_work> murlidhar, I just mean that if you use a lower level interface (gconf-editor (dconf-*?) might be sufficient), you might be able to make gnome do something it doesn't want to
[18:55] <nagappan> murlidhar, hmmm
[18:55] <robin0800> jlhenry, no, no time release is next thursday
[18:55] <murlidhar> cwillu_at_work: hmm yes /apps/metacity/general ... shade something ...
[18:56] <murlidhar> toggle shade...
[18:56] <templet> how do i use gnome shell on unity and if i do so will it rid me of the launchbar on the right ?
[18:56] <templet> oneiric rather
[18:57] <templet> left
[18:57] <murlidhar> templet: you cannot use  gnome shell on unity...
[18:58] <murlidhar> both are shells .
[18:58] <murlidhar> correct me please anyone if i am wrong.
[18:58] <cwillu_at_work> you can run it instead, yes.  Note however that gnome-shell also has a large'ish side-panel
[18:59] <Dougie187> templet: it's probably better to just get use to the panel, as there's not likely to be any gnome classic anymore.
[19:00] <robin0800> cwillu_at_work, , yes but unity launcher can be made smaller and can auto hide
[19:00]  * cwillu_at_work points robin0800 at the scrollback for context
[19:00] <murlidhar> templet: do you mean you want to use unity but without the launcher in the left?
[19:01] <templet> murlidhar, i simply had a hope for further customization because the default icons make me ill.
[19:02] <murlidhar> templet: default icons in unity ?
[19:02] <Dougie187> the default launcher icons?
[19:02] <templet> oneiric
[19:02] <murlidhar> templet: you can always change the icon theme i guess
[19:02] <Dougie187> yes, in the launcher panel? or on a desktop?
[19:02] <cwillu_at_work> templet, or change the relevant .desktop files
[19:02] <robin0800> cwillu_at_work, , as far as I know the gnome favourites bar is not configurable is it?
[19:02] <templet> i heard that was impossible and i'd hope for gnome2 icons
[19:02] <cwillu_at_work> robin0800, probably more configurable than ours
[19:02] <murlidhar> he probably means he wants to change the icon theme
[19:03] <Dougie187> very confusing. lol
[19:03] <murlidhar> : )
[19:03] <murlidhar> :D
[19:03] <cwillu_at_work> also
[19:03] <charlie-tca> jlhenry: okay, let me know when you find it, because next week, I will be testing the final image candidates
[19:04]  * cwillu_at_work stabs Dougie187 for killing his hope that this whole "gnome3" will go away
[19:04] <Dougie187> I said it's not likely... that doesn't mean it wont... :P
[19:04] <Dougie187> careful choice of words...
[19:04] <cwillu_at_work> not careful enough
[19:05] <murlidhar> templet: if you just interested in changing the default icon theme in gnome shell or unity .. there is a tool called gnome-tweak-tool that can help you.
[19:05] <jlhenry> charlie-tca, I am looking for it as you do :)
[19:05] <charlie-tca> Actually, no, I am not looking for it.
[19:05] <templet> murlidhar, then you my savior
[19:05] <templet> thank you
[19:05] <murlidhar> :)
[19:06] <murlidhar> you are welcome
[19:06] <charlie-tca> It would have had to be last week, to be a valid RC, giving this week to fix things and next week for final
[19:06] <charlie-tca> jlhenry: I believe the writer choose his words badly
[19:07] <templet> there will be more system wide themes for oneiric in the future perhaps ?
[19:07] <templet> customization of the desktop has always been a linux desire
[19:07] <cwillu_at_work> templet, you must be new to gnome :p
[19:08] <cwillu_at_work> although in fairness, it's more like the customization gets properly generalized to a nice format, but nobody ever gets around to making an editor for the files
[19:09] <templet> gnome is the only thing i'm not new at gnome3 and unity are new to and i loved unity except it would not place packages where i could access them after install i'd have to kill xserver or do alt-f2.  i'm willing to step back if that bug is fixed.  its very versatile
[19:11] <robin0800> templet, you can always bookmark /usr/share/applications
[19:11] <cwillu_at_work> eww?
[19:20] <ubuntu_user> will mariadb be included in the final release?
[19:20] <rww> ubuntu_user: it's not currently in oneiric and it's way past freezes, so no.
[19:22] <ubuntu_user> darn. ok thanks anyways
[19:22] <ubuntu_user> i had read it was going to be in the server edition
[19:23] <jlhenry> charlie-tca, next week, you could try this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[19:35] <linuxtech> I thought the 11.10 RC was supposed to be available yesterday and I just checked http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/ and it's not there.  Where can I find the desktop RC?
[19:36] <Dougie187> supposedly it comes out on sunday
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Just grab the daily image, it is up to date
[19:36] <linuxtech> OK Thanks!
[19:36] <charlie-tca> There will not be an RC this cycle
[19:36] <sgerbino> anyone else having problems with Flash on 11.10? I can't see youtube videos or Pandora for some reason -- but other Flash sites work
[19:37] <Dougie187> I haven't tried flash on 11.10
[19:37] <Dougie187> I actually just installed it a minute ago
[19:37] <Dougie187> is it flash 11?
[19:37] <Dougie187> or just 10?
[19:37] <sgerbino> it worked for a while, until a few updates ago
[19:38] <pdq> there was just a development update blog saying release candidate would be soon http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/10/07/ubuntu-11-10-development-update-8/
[19:38] <sgerbino> its 10.3
[19:38] <sgerbino> i thought they stopped RC in favor of beta2s until to final release
[19:38] <charlie-tca> pdq: you will have a final release before that release candidate gets outy
[19:39] <pdq> i just echoing what i seen hehe. i couldn't wait and upgraded to beta 2 four days ago:P
[19:40] <Dougie187> sgerbino: mine says it's 11.0 r1
[19:42] <Dougie187> but pandora didn't load for me either.
[19:42] <bjsnider> sgerbino, your .xsession-errors had a bunch of nspluginwrapper messages in it
[19:43] <sgerbino> hrmmmmmmmm :|
[19:43] <Dougie187> flash works fine on pottermore for me though
[19:44] <sgerbino> ugh now i have GPG error when sudo apt-get update
[19:45] <sgerbino> maybe im mistaken on my flash version, i used dpkg -l | grep 'flash' and got version 10.3 maybe that's just the debian package version of the flash installer
[19:47] <bjsnider> the debian version is numbered based on the plugin version
[19:47] <bjsnider> here's a newsflash: nspluginwrapper doesn't work very well
[19:48] <sgerbino> thats what i figured, so i guess i have flash 10.. :O
[19:48] <jtaylor> I actually never had a problem with it in the last 3 years
[19:48] <jtaylor> except when I screwed it up myself
[19:51] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, is the 7machines ppa valid agian, because an update removed it and flash, and replaced it with the ndiswrapper version
[19:51] <bjsnider> i don't know
[19:51] <bjsnider> now that adobe has marked flash 11 amd64 as stable, there's no reason not to package it
[19:52] <bjsnider> and i have a version of the scripts that does that
[19:55] <Dougie187> bjsnider: does the adobe-flashplugin package use nspluginwrapper? mine doesn't seem like it does, and I got flash 11 r1 from that.
[19:57] <bjsnider> yeah, i didn't see that release
[19:57] <bjsnider> i'll check that out
[19:58] <bjsnider> why hasn't he updated?
[19:58] <bjsnider> he's still on 10.xx
[19:59] <sgerbino> i dunno, i just installed that package now
[19:59] <sgerbino> it didn't upgrade from what i had though
[20:00] <Dougie187> sgerbino: what did you install previously? or how did you install it?
[20:00] <sgerbino> it was the packages I got with maverick meerkat 'flashplugin-installer' and 'flashplugin-downloader'
[20:01] <sgerbino> i probably got them with meerkat and upgraded until oneiric now
[20:01] <Dougie187> I would remove those.
[20:01] <Dougie187> and install the new oneiric packages.
[20:01] <Dougie187> you want to install the adobe-flashplugin package.
[20:02] <sgerbino> yeah thats what im trying now
[20:03] <sgerbino> first fixing this GPG error :| then purging those old flash ones and downloading adobe-flashplugin package
[20:03] <Dougie187> heh
[20:04] <sgerbino> early adoption ftw baby
[20:05] <sgerbino> omg it worksssssssss /cheer
[20:05] <sgerbino> I R HAVE TEH YOUTUBES!
[20:09] <beatpanic> all: I am trying to install evolution, but: http://pastebin.com/Guu8ZwH9 the 'evolution' package seems older than the dependencies
[20:09] <beatpanic> there will be an update of the package?
[20:09] <beatpanic> thanks
[20:11] <HrevilO> hi there!
[20:11] <HrevilO> is there any known bug/issue with iceauthority at the actual state of ubuntu 11.10 in combination with gnome 3.2?
[20:11] <HrevilO> to be a bit more specific:
[20:11] <HrevilO> I've upgraded from 11.04 with gnome3-ppa to 11.10 beta. my normal user works without problems. but:
[20:12] <HrevilO> if I create a new user, i can't log in with that one. the message is " could not update ICEauthority file /home/$(USER)/.ICEauthority"
[20:12] <HrevilO> actually the file doesn't even exist and if i copy the file from the working user and set the rights corresponding to the new one, it doesn't help at all.
[20:12] <HrevilO> any idea how to fix this? :)
[20:13] <bjsnider> adobe is now giving permission to package the plugin itself, and not just a downloader, in addition to releasing a stable amd64 version
[20:14] <toman> hello there, can sm1 help me with ubuntu 11.10, please? I need to change the movement key to be the win key and i can not find where to change that ... :(
[20:14] <wqrgyuf> but they do not have adobe air anymore for linux
[20:14] <jbicha> HrevilO: you're using encrypted /home ?
[20:15] <HrevilO> jbicha: no, not for the new user
[20:15] <itaylor57> so I unistnalled the flash plugin installer and now flash does not work
[20:15] <HrevilO> the other one got some encrypted directories but not the complete home
[20:15] <toman> wqrgyuf, what do u need adobe air for ?
[20:16] <wqrgyuf> something like twitter deck maybe
[20:16] <wqrgyuf> they have nice apps there
[20:16] <bjsnider> itaylor57, now install adobe-flashplugin
[20:16] <jbicha> HrevilO: I don't use encrypted home directories but I know there are some bugs with it & the upgrade to lightdm, I don't know the details though
[20:16] <toman> couse i use old version for ICQ
[20:16] <toman> and it works fine
[20:16] <toman> 2.6
[20:16] <toman> u can find it in the adobe website
[20:17] <itaylor57> did that
[20:17] <wqrgyuf> good enough i guess
[20:17] <HrevilO> jbicha: i've seen some things like that through out my google search... but i haven't yet found someone who misses the .ICEauthority at all...
[20:18] <toman> anyone have any idea how to change the "movement" key to the "win key" ?
[20:18] <HrevilO> it's not even there if the new user logs in at the shell. is this normal?
[20:18] <sgerbino> itaylor57: I just had that problem, sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer flashplugin-downloader  && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin -- did the trick for me :O
[20:19] <sgerbino> itaylor57: also restart firefox to test if you aren't
[20:20] <toman> can anyone tell me where to find the old "system > preferences > windows" menu in 11.10 ?
[20:20] <sgerbino> toman: is it in the top right gear -> System settings... ?
[20:20] <toman> no :D
[20:21] <toman> that's why im asking :D
[20:22] <toman> sgerbino, i have "keyboard layout" and "keyboard" but no "windows"
[20:22] <jbicha> toman: I've been using GNOME 3 for so long; what did Window preferences do?
[20:22] <toman> and i need to stop moving the windows with the alt key, because it is a shortcut for blender ... i cant work this way :(
[20:23] <toman> jbicha, i need to make the alt key stop moving windows
[20:23] <jbicha> some extra preferences are available with gnome-tweak-tool
[20:23] <tarvid> 11.04 Host 11.10 Guest How would I install Guest additions?
[20:24] <jbicha> the Alt and click to drag shortcut is pretty universal
[20:24] <toman> i am talking about moving windows. To rotate the view in blender3d i use alt+left click
[20:24] <toman> and it just moves the window
[20:25] <toman> so i cant navigate :D
[20:25] <jbicha> tarvid: try sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-utils in the virtual machine
[20:25] <guntbert> toman: I have it there like sgerbino said
[20:25] <itaylor57> sgerbino, well it didn't workfor me
[20:25] <itaylor57> no flashnow
[20:25] <guntbert> jbicha: 11.10 might be not supported yet by the GA
[20:26] <jbicha> guntbert: works for me
[20:26] <GirlyGirl> Wonder how smooth the upgrade will go
[20:27] <guntbert> jbicha: but that wouldn't be the current vbox version, would it?
[20:28] <bjsnider> itaylor57, ls /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[20:28] <tarvid> jbicha, thanks, in progress
[20:28] <itaylor57> sgerbino, its working now,had to logout and back in
[20:29] <HrevilO> is it time for me to fill a bug report or what's the next step if google doesn't help?
[20:29] <HrevilO> i'm just wondering, cause it looks like no one else is having the exact same problem :(
[20:29] <toman> guntbert,  am i blind or what ? :D http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9895/screenshotat20111007232.png
[20:29] <sgerbino> itaylor57: sweet good news :]
[20:29] <itaylor57> sgerbino, thanks
[20:29] <sgerbino> np
[20:30] <cypha> will upgrading to 11.10 from 11.04 screw up my openbox?
[20:30] <cypha> which I have set as my window manager
[20:30] <pdq> toman, system settings, keyboard layout, options, alt/win behaviour ?
[20:30] <Dougie187> How do you add a new workspace in unity?
[20:31] <genii-around> !info openbox natty
[20:31] <toman> pdq, tested it .. no option for removing the "windows movement"
[20:31] <genii-around> !info openbox oneiric
[20:31] <guntbert> toman: ah, you were looking for a special setting, I overlooked that and just stated the placing of the "system settings"
[20:32] <toman> guntbert, where can i find it ?
[20:33] <cypha> genii-around, so conclusion?
[20:33] <cypha> i just don't know how much settings resetting an upgrade does
[20:33] <genii-around> cypha: Not sure. The versions aren't radically different.
[20:34] <cypha> k
[20:34] <cypha> guess I"ll wait for someone to find out
[20:34] <cypha> thanks genii-around
[20:34] <Typh> Anyone have an issue with middle click not registering unless done really quickly?
[20:35] <guntbert> toman: sorry, Idon't know either
[20:39] <pdq> i used to love mouse scrolling on window titlebar to roll up/roll down window. now it just mimimizes it. anyone know of any place i can config that?
[20:39] <Dougie187> So, is there an easy way to manage workspaces in unity/
[20:45] <mongy> Dougie187: I use an edge to activate expo and another to activate scale
[20:46] <robin0800> Dougie187, super+s etc do you mean
[20:46] <Dougie187> No, I mean how can you add and remove workspaces.
[20:46] <Dougie187> like, if you were to press super+s, how can you make it 5 or 10 workspaces instead of 4
[20:46] <Dougie187> or even just 1
[20:47] <robin0800> Dougie187, not sure you can
[20:47] <Dougie187> Oh ok
[21:00] <sgerbino> Dougie187, I'm not 100%, but I thought you could download ccsm Compiz simple manager to increase your desktops
[21:00] <sgerbino> i gotta run though, gluck :]
[21:02] <Dougie187> I have the compiz manager, but I don't see an option to up the number of workspaces. or even reduce for that matter.
[21:05] <pdq> in general options if i recall correctly, vertical and horizontal
[21:06] <pdq> or some such :P
[21:06] <Dougie187> general options for....?
[21:07] <Dougie187> nm, I found what you are talking about. lemme see if it has viewports/workspaces in it
[21:08] <pdq> i havent tried changing amount since 10.10
[21:08] <Dougie187> you can change it, but it doesn't affect the actual number of workspaces you have
[21:10] <robin0800> Dougie187, you may have to log out and back in or it may be a bug/design thing
[21:10] <pdq> ah, i dunno, might be design change so workspace switching is uniform now or something :> i've played it safe and not touched many compiz settings lately
[21:10] <Dougie187> k, thanks
[21:24] <cypha> where are packages installed to?
[21:24] <cypha> when I download them from the repo
[21:26] <bjsnider> cypha, i am not clear about what you're asking. can you rephrase?
[21:26] <cypha> for example, I downloaded the Python-Imaging package from synaptic
[21:26] <cypha> where in / can I find the files for the app?
[21:27] <bjsnider> if you look in synaptic you can see the list of installed files in the properties screen for that package
[21:28] <pythonsnake> how to check if my laptop has bluethooth ?
[21:29] <wqrgyuf> curl -s -S --data-urlencode "txt=$(sudo lshw -html)" "http://pastehtml.com/upload/create?input_type=html&result=address";echo;
[21:29] <wqrgyuf> do that in the terminal
[21:30] <pythonsnake> wqrgyuf, is this for me ?
[21:30] <wqrgyuf> yep
[21:30] <pythonsnake> okay
[21:31] <pythonsnake> it asks for sudo pass o.O
[21:31] <cypha> thanks bjsnider
[21:31] <wqrgyuf> do it then
[21:31] <cwillu_at_work> pythonsnake, lshw makes a general summary of your hardware (which requires root access)
[21:31] <pythonsnake> http://pastehtml.com/view/b9ts2e4qs.html
[21:32] <cwillu_at_work> pythonsnake, you may find that the bluetooth hardware, if it exists, may not show up if it's disabled in the bios as well, so it might be worth giving that menu a once-over
[21:33] <bjsnider> there would likely also be some visual indication on the laptop itself, such as a logo or something
[21:33] <pythonsnake> Hmm
[21:34] <pythonsnake> I see a bluethooth icon in the top right corner of the screen
[21:35] <bjsnider> i don't know why that would be there unless the hardware was present as well
[21:37] <pythonsnake> bjsnider, that's why I asked to be sure :)
[21:38] <pythonsnake> Gonna contact HP Support
[21:46] <myk_robinson> anyone here know how to enable scaling in 11.10's version of Vinagre Remote Desktop Viewer?
[21:51] <steve007> hello.  I upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04.   But after logging in, metacity is running, not compiz.  I can manually run compiz --replace, but thought compiz is now the default.  Any hints as to where I should look to debug this? thanks.
[21:54] <ChogyDan> steve007: I don't know, but Im just curious, what shell are you using?  Unity?
[21:54] <HrevilO> finally found, fixed and reported my problem :) hope it's at the right place... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/870316
[21:55] <steve007> ChogyDan: I'm using Unity2D.
[21:55] <myk_robinson> ...or how to install tsclient in 11.10
[21:56] <m4yer> steve007: wild guess: compiz is for 3D
[21:57] <steve007> m4yet. fair enough.   good guess.  thanks.
[22:10] <lucas-arg> hey guys, im having problems with skype and audio... any one has any idea how to guide me to fix problem?
[22:11] <ChogyDan> did it work on 11.04?
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> besides not using skype?
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> try pulse audio PPA
[22:12] <lucas-arg> it did
[22:12] <lucas-arg> problem is audio
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> lucas-arg: if you are already running PA PPA and rebooted
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> install pavucontrol and paman
[22:13] <lucas-arg> i did
[22:13] <lucas-arg> no difference
[22:13] <lucas-arg> wheres pulseaudio ppa?
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> -_-'
[22:14] <bjsnider> i don't buy the idea that it's necessary to run a dev ppa in a bleeding edge distro
[22:14] <lucas-arg> i mean whats pulseaudio ppa cant find it
[22:15] <bjsnider> you've already got a bleeding-dge pulseaudio in oneiric
[22:15] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: LOL
[22:15] <FernandoMiguel> no, not really
[22:16] <FernandoMiguel> the PPA uses a much newer alsa
[22:16] <FernandoMiguel> and contains a few other things, which only
[22:16] <lucas-arg> can u tell me the ppa?
[22:16] <FernandoMiguel> ....damn forgot his nick..... knows
[22:16] <bjsnider> it's not been established that alsa or pulse is the problem in this case
[22:16] <bjsnider> he's provided no specific info at all
[22:17] <bjsnider> "problem is audio" is not specific info
[22:17] <lucas-arg> problem is pulse
[22:18] <kyubutsu> did you try without pulseaudio
[22:18] <lucas-arg> nope
[22:19] <lucas-arg> now audio works perfect
[22:19] <lucas-arg> sudo service pulseaudio stop
[22:20] <lucas-arg> problem is pulse AGAIN
[22:20] <FernandoMiguel> it's not a service
[22:20] <FernandoMiguel> use pulseaudio -k
[22:20] <lucas-arg> i did like that, and there was no pulseaudio option in skype options and audio works great now
[22:21] <lucas-arg> problem solved
[22:23] <bjsnider> running pulseaudio -k on a whim is not an appropriate solution
[22:34] <elia> help with oneiric
[22:34] <elia> nvidia 8400 gs i got lightdm to load a couple of times but the rest of the times lightdm is a blank sceen
[23:02] <krutoileshii> (krutoileshii) (krutoileshii) Need help compiling rocket raid 2640 divider under Ubuntu 11.10. Fails to compile saying only supports 2.4 2.6 series
[23:23] <krutoileshii> (krutoileshii) (krutoileshii) Need help compiling rocket raid 2640 divider under Ubuntu 11.10. Fails to compile saying only supports 2.4 2.6 series
[23:44] <krutoileshii> (krutoileshii) (krutoileshii) Need help compiling rocket raid 2640 divider under Ubuntu 11.10. Fails to compile saying only supports 2.4 2.6 series