[00:17] gruemaster you said sound was working.. it seems to be crashing on me every boot === zumbi is now known as Guest98374 [00:39] MrCurious_: ??? Sound is working here on the latest daily. Changes went in a couple of days ago. [00:39] What is crashing? [01:26] after a fresh install and first boot, it tries to send a crash report. have gotten it twice. first time it said it was sound related. [01:26] second time i couldnt work out the coause [01:27] gruemaster: i would place what i just said in the unreliable dept, as i dont remember it letter flr letter [01:28] You may have multiple crashes. Look in /var/crash. [02:24] gruemaster yes, 3, and none are sound (jockey, oem config remove, software center) [02:26] is it ok? [02:26] whoops [02:30] Well, none of that's "okay", per se, but none of it's sound. [02:30] Does the oem-config-remove one have a backtrace about a D-Bus timeout? [02:30] "is it ok" was to my wife about my cooking :D [02:31] and it was... [02:31] After I spin dailies tonight, that should be worked around. I'd say "fixed", but the fix won't land for oneiric. But it shouldn't happen, I hope. :/ [02:32] it had a timeout at the end somethign didnt respond [02:33] Yah, that's cause another process is running at the same time and eating your system alive. [02:33] sounds like something to avoid [02:34] Needs a deeper fix to make the timeout actually retry or not happen, but tonight's images should at least avoid the eating alive bit. [02:34] this was last nights [02:34] Yeah. I mean "the ones that will be building over the next 8-12 hours" [04:52] interesting. if you set screen blanking to off or none it blanks in 1 or 2 minutes [05:01] xset dpms force on ? [05:25] i am sure there are workarounds, i was just noting it was a case of what you say isnt what you get [05:57] Any wakey wakes in here? [05:57] Fresh *buntu Natty install, all updates... [05:58] installed qemu-user-static... [05:58] ran "sudo debootstrap --arch=armel natty eabi-chroot" [05:59] Finishes with error... W: Failure trying to run: chroot /home/XXXXX/eabi-chroot mount -t proc proc /proc [05:59] wtf? [06:36] infinity: hi [06:37] gfx packages should work. we have GST and video playback working now. and we need to finalize the packaging steps and push [06:47] ndec: Kay. And I assume we'll get the metapackage back? [06:47] ndec: Since we have a shiny desktop icon to install it and everything. :) === vila is now known as vila_at_dentist [08:06] infinity, there should also be a special case of libreoffice in the seeds, not only banshee === zumbi is now known as Guest12955 [08:08] (it has no negated subarch entry, instead it specifies the subarches to install on (which is a bit silly i think) [08:08] i wonder if we should actually make that [!armel] instead, just for consistency === vila_at_dentist is now known as vila [08:21] infinity: yes of course! we are putting the real packages first to test them. then we will push the meta pkgs [08:22] ndec, well, the earlier the better, we're in RC now and havent had a chance to test if the PPA enablich actually works [08:22] even a meat without deps would help testing atm [08:22] *meta [08:22] heh [08:22] ogra_: let me do that now [08:23] thanks :) [08:44] ogra_: pushed. shouldn't take too long to build ;-) [08:45] let me know how it goes [08:45] ndec: \o/ [08:45] this is not the most difficult package we have to manage ;-0 [08:45] * ogra_ hugs ndec [08:46] ndec: Nope, but while you can fix your PPA post-release, we can't fix our images, so we need to make sure that installing the meta works vaguely as expected. [08:46] i'll test after the call today [08:46] ndec: So, thanks. :) [08:46] ogra_: Images won't be done building for another hour or two. [08:46] absolutely [08:46] infinity, thats fine, 10:46 here :) call is in the afternoon [08:47] * infinity glances at the clock. [08:47] :) [08:47] bde time, eh ? [08:47] I think I need to go find some niccotine to calm my nerves and have a nap. [08:47] *bed even [08:47] have some valerian with the ciggy [08:47] ;) [08:47] I have none. [08:47] Not sure the gas station sells it. [08:47] Almost positive they don't. [08:48] But gin will work, right? [08:48] It's basically the same thing. [08:48] sure, but wont macke your cats happy :) [08:48] *make [08:48] My cats don't need any more happy. If you ask me, they need some disappointment in their lives. [08:48] lol [08:49] Tails always up, always expecting the best from life. Spoiled brats. [08:49] then probably go for melatonin instead of valerian [08:50] Time to take them back to the dealer and trade them in for kittens anyway. [08:50] Who wants 3-year-old used cats? [08:50] infinity: where are you based? [08:50] ndec: Calgary, AB, Canada. [08:50] heh [08:50] ouch... [08:50] why ouch ? [08:50] it's like 3AM? [08:50] Yup. [08:50] (apart from the weather) [08:50] It's early! [08:51] I only slept about 3 hours last night. [08:51] good morning then :) [08:51] Tonight's going to be at least 4! [08:51] Progress. [08:51] so stop talking about sleeping now, DO IT ! [08:51] I should start making soap and beating myself up. [08:51] Unfortunately, Helena Bonham Carter doesn't return my phone calls. [08:52] geez, evil ! [08:52] Yeah, she's a bit cruel. [08:52] did she promise to ? [08:52] Not in so many words. [08:52] But I saw the look in her eye as they dragged me away. [08:52] It was love. [08:52] tell her you will start dating scarlett johanssen if she doesnt answer [08:53] envy is a good motivator ;) [08:53] * infinity goes shopping. [08:53] ndec: Thanks again. You gave me something to test tomorrow. [08:54] (And potentially cry over when software-center crashes trying to do something simple) [08:54] well, we'll corner mvo if it doesnt work === Guest12955 is now known as zumbi [09:33] Hmm. Helena won't return my calls either. And she keeps changing her number. :-/ [09:42] Get the hint. [09:50] Hi to all. I am currently trying to boot my BeagleBoard-xM rev C with yesterday's daily oneiric-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img.gz [09:54] and now I am stuck at the language selection dialog and neither USB keyboard nor mouse do work. [10:07] Also, there is no LAN LED activity. Can it be that my power supply is too weak? I am currently switchable power supply that says '12 VA', set to 5 V. [10:07] ... currently using a ... === arun_ is now known as arun [10:51] ogra_? [11:38] oh ! [11:38] its a "Precise Pangolin" we'll have for the next 6 months [11:51] What's my sources.list supposed to look like? [11:52] deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ ubuntu main universe <-- doesn't like me [11:53] http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports [11:53] you miss the dir [11:54] Ah, silly me === alphabetical_ome is now known as c933103 [12:01] Well, that's working, just sucky-ass speed for some reason [12:01] hi. I'm trying to get the dsp of omap4430 working. i use css5 to create an executable (*.out), copy it to my pandaboard and try to execute it, but it gives the error: " -bash: ./hello.out: cannot execute binary file" [12:01] 89% [4 Packages 4816 kB/5610 kB 85%] 24.1 kB/s 32s [12:06] ogra_, have you got my recent mail about my BeagleBoard problems? [12:06] jondo, did you try to start over ? [12:06] (just reboot wiht the SD inserted) [12:10] Not yet. I just powered it off. I'm gonna try this now. You mean ctrl-alt-del? [12:11] as you like [12:11] you can just pull the power otherwise [12:13] I'm in the language dialog again, and ctrl-alt-del does not work. Powering off and on also does not help: the language dialog reappears, and neither mouse nor keyboard work. [12:13] very strange, since it does for everyone else [12:14] sounds a bit like your USB isnt initialized or failing due to not enough power [12:14] do you by chnace have a powered hub you could try ? [12:15] jondo: when i used the beagle i allways had to attach keyboard and mouse to a selfpowered usb hub [12:16] I am currently using a 5V / 2A power supply. I'll search the office for a hub. And I have also got a second Beagleboard, that is not unwrapped yet. [12:18] well, 2A should *theoretically* be sufficient [12:18] (i use a 4A here though) [12:25] morning [12:34] With a powered USB hub, still no keyboard and mouse :( [12:35] But how can there be not enough power with Ubuntu, when keyboard, mouse and LAN work fine with Angstrom Linux? [12:37] (As noted in the mail, the green and yellow LAN socket LEDs do not light up with Ubuntu.) [12:40] then your usb is not being attached properly [12:40] LAN socket it over usb [12:40] look at your dmesg for "not configured" or some such [12:43] Ok, I'll look at dmesg. You mean, the LAN socket is connected over usb? [12:49] yes [12:49] the lan device is usb->ethernet [13:24] BTW, my second BeagleBoard shows the same symptoms. [13:27] I'll continue testing on Monday. Bye! [13:28] sounds like software IMO [14:14] Hello, i´m using socketcan on my beagleboard xm and i have problems with flooding logfiles. the time stamp of the entries are <1ms and the logfiles are fast bigger than 1gb and the disk going full. i^m using mcp2515 can controller and kernel 3.0.0-x of robertcnelson repository. can someone help me or have an idear what i can do ? [14:15] the entries look like this: [14:15] Oct 7 15:23:37 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5813.138458] omap2_mcspi omap2_mcspi.4: rpm_suspend flags 0x0 [14:15] Oct 7 15:23:37 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5813.138580] omap2_mcspi omap2_mcspi.4: rpm_resume returns 0 [14:15] and [14:15] Oct 7 15:23:37 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5813.138458] omap2_mcspi omap2_mcspi.4: rpm_suspend flags 0x0 [14:15] Oct 7 15:23:37 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5813.138580] omap2_mcspi omap2_mcspi.4: rpm_resume returns 0 [14:15] Oct 7 15:24:00 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5836.953948] smsc95xx 1-2.1:1.0: rpm_resume flags 0x5 [14:15] Oct 7 15:24:00 gtrtbb kernel: [ 5836.783325] smsc95xx 1-2.1:1.0: rpm_resume returns 1 [15:08] so still no omap4-extras for daily? [15:10] brandini, should be there, testing would be appreciated [15:10] how are we supposed to know what bugs are in daily without that stuff? [15:10] ok, I'm running server and I'm not sure how to add the extras repo? [15:11] heh, yeah, that doesnt get us the test result we look for [15:11] :) [15:11] there is a graphics subpage onm the omap wikipage [15:11] that explains how to enable the ppa manually [15:11] k [15:11] oh look, linero [15:11] err linaro [15:12] from here ogra_? http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Get_started_with_ubuntu_on_omap4 [15:13] brandini, no! [15:13] wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP [15:14] I think I tried that, but here I go again! [15:14] janimo: GrueMaster: the daily 111007 imx5 image works like a charm for me now... network routes work during oem-config and gui feels more responsive! still some waiting between that the oem-setup window dissapears to and the gui restarts to show lightdm login. aptd are it are still doing some configuration during the wait... [15:14] lightdm is a snail [15:15] (and i suspect it doesnt actually match its name ... i think its far from being actually light) [15:19] ogra_: thanks, great tip :) [15:19] :) [15:22] ogra_: indeed.. everything went snail after lightdm login [15:22] on the imx53 [15:22] ogra_: workaround by installing gdm? [15:22] nah [15:22] i will check if using gdm changes anything [15:23] i doubt that, gdm might not have light in its name, but its not lighter :) [15:23] i would also assume its rather soemthing like metacitys composite that draws the power [15:24] ogra_: the snail feeling are really.. odd i mean the pointer flies and updates so fast like its on fire... while any event you send to the gui takes about 7sec to be recieved [15:25] ouch [15:25] andwhen the 7 seconds pass a blimp of snappyness occours gui gets instantly updated and then it takes some seconds for next event to get processed [15:25] the image is a tech preview so, while thats not nice, i dont think we will change anything on it for oneiric [15:25] ok [15:26] not sure how mature the kernel is yet etc [15:27] so to sum it up.. everything looks fast on the paper but the user experience are bleeding [15:27] network traffic ok [15:27] io traffic ok [15:27] etc [15:27] console works ok [15:28] well, i would blame the framebuffer driver then [15:29] kind of odd since it felt reasonable fast during oem-config [15:29] oh well [15:29] at least it work [15:29] for hosting buildd's [15:29] and arm server testing [15:39] xranby, good to know, probably the swap enablement fixed it. Thanks for the feedback! [15:47] so now that I've got omap4-extras I dunno what to do with them [15:49] Um, test them? Just a suggestion. :P [15:50] :) [15:50] well the one thing I was most concerned about that worked on 10.10 was the go/src/pkg/time test that is still failing :( === _MrCurious is now known as MrCurious_ [16:10] janimo: the main observation that i do on the imx53 are that redrawing the gui eats cpu time.. with unity2d idle running gnome-system-monitor then gnome-system-monitor eats 30-80% of cpu time when it are updating the gui [16:11] ogra_: so yeah ^ might be some work needed on the framebuffer driver [16:12] someone know how to check how fast the Xorg screen redraw itself? [16:12] probably the guys in #ubuntu-x [16:18] i have now flooded their channel [16:18] unfortunally noone seems around [16:18] or awake [16:35] anyone had luck with the preinstalled image for Natty on the beagleBoardXM? I installed it and it boots,etc but doesn't find the /dev/usb0 NIC [16:35] I can boot the test angstrom image and everything works fine. not sure what else I need to do in ubuntu, any ideas? [16:36] saliak: Which rev beagleXM? [16:36] And what does ifconfig report? [16:41] rev C [16:42] ifconfig only reports lo [16:42] it seems like something is missing,which is weird since it's the prebuilt headless image [17:24] hi [17:24] need help regarding dual display on pandaboard with ubuntu 11.04 [17:25] any suggestion [17:25] i am not able to get this done from couple of days [17:27] any one with any suggestions [17:28] saliak: Sorry, I was called away for a bit. Can you try the latest daily Oneiric? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/current [17:29] np, yeah, i'll check that out now [17:29] five: I haven't tested this out (yet). I think it requires the closed drivers for video, but they were not available for Natty. [17:29] is there a patch for revC like there was for natty? [17:32] saliak: It "should" just work. [17:32] The natty patch was due to hw release after Natty freeze. [17:32] can u please tell me which OS on pandaboard will support dual monitors [17:34] five: We only deal with Ubuntu-arm here. You could try our latest, which is due to release next week. Get it at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current. Also, You may want to ask in #pandaboard. [17:35] thanks GrueMaster [17:42] GrueMaster: will those images run headless? [17:43] The server image is essentially the headless image with additional packages, yes. [17:50] GrueMaster : just to make sure i'm not making a stupid mistake, beagle board is omap3, right? [17:51] saliak: Yes. [17:51] So pull the oneiric-preinstalled-server-armel+omap.img.gz file === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [21:13] Erm, oops. Ubiquity Slideshow has a slide on Banshee, which we replaced at the last minute because it fails on arm. Doh! [21:13] infinity: ^^^ [21:16] Not much we can do about that. We're not forking the slideshow. :/ [21:17] I know. Just found it kind of amusing. [21:18] Won't disagree with that. :) [21:18] I'll refrain from filing a bug. [21:18] Will add it to the arm release notes wiki though. [21:20] GrueMaster: Do you have a seperate release notes regarding ARM page? [21:22] I do for previous releases. Haven't started an Oneiric one. But it usually is for stuff specific to the arm images. Any i386/amd64 issues are usually mirrored on arm so I consider them redundant. [21:22] GrueMaster: sure.. when you have it, i'd like to see arm server things. Can you ping me pls? [21:23] sigh. oem-config-remove appears to have crashed on mx5. [21:23] Daviey: sure thing, although the release notes will be specific to iso testing. Everything else isn't really automated yet. [21:26] GrueMaster: After next week, I want to kick of a discussion regarding testing - i need you to be a key part of it :) [21:26] (all flavours, shared methodology) [21:27] Sure. I will also be attending the testing BoF at UDS. [21:31] infinity: any ideas on how to get some info on why oem-config is respawning on mx5? It hasn't happened (yet) on any other platform. Still need to test beaglexm. [21:32] GrueMaster: I want to brainstorm before UDS TBH [21:32] GrueMaster: Other than pulling the card for logs, I don't have any remote debugging ideas right now. [21:32] Daviey: No problem. [21:33] GrueMaster: But I suspect the whole thing is just a bit racy, and hardware speed (and dumb luck) triggers the problems. :/ [21:33] oem-config, that's the thing that asks for language and such? [21:34] And username and stuff, yes. [21:34] infinity: It appears that it is crashing when launching oem-config-remove-gtk. No other explaination. I do have an odd error in oem-config.log, but that is related to keymaps. [21:34] Something, somewhere, must say something. :/ [21:34] cool, thought it was only me; stopped after the fourth one last night [21:35] But that appears on startup. [21:35] Need to smack the installer team into adding meaningful log messages on fail. [21:35] Unless oem-config-wrapper doesn't log anywhere... [21:37] Balls. [21:37] And it really doesn't. [21:37] As I said... [21:37] excellent. [21:37] Maybe /var/log/installer/dm ? [21:38] But I'm not sure if output from oem-config-wrapper will actually get caught by the DM. [21:38] Probably not. [21:40] No, dm looks (almost) like an Xorg log. [21:42] I have scoured /var/log for any semblence of sanity. None found. [21:42] I can release note it. It will be a big annoyance, but what else can you do? [21:43] I suspect with enough tries and the right moon phase, it'll work. [21:43] GrueMaster: so I used the Oneiric image and have the same issue. there's no /dev/usb0 [21:43] GrueMaster: if i boot off the test sd card with the Angstrom image, the network hardware works fine [21:44] R_Nev: The workaround (for now) is to go to a text console when oem-config respawns, log in and run "sudo oem-config-remove" then reboot. [21:45] saliak: Try unplugging the network cable, then plugging it back in. I have been seeing this issue for a while and reported it upstream. [21:45] Thought it was just my hardware. [21:45] The screen just blanked on my Panda in the middle of the install... [21:45] saliak: Wait a few seconds before plugging back in. [21:46] infinity: Try switching to console 1 then back. [21:46] Nada. [21:46] This is disconcerting. [21:46] * infinity re-flashes the card and goes for another try. [21:46] GrueMaster: nada here as well. [21:47] infinity: I was going to ask if you still had blinken lights. [21:47] * GrueMaster can see a lot of release note editing in his future. [21:47] Yeahp. [21:47] There seemed to be plenty of SD activity. [21:47] And the heartbeat. [21:48] GrueMaster: i did everything over the serial port. any chance it needs a keyboard/monitor during some setup stage for something that has to do with the network? [21:48] saliak: Not on the headless. Do you have link lights on the port? [21:48] GrueMaster : no link lights. that's the weird thing, it's like the hardware is disabled [21:49] GrueMaster : hrm, during boot it says "unbable to enumerage usb device on port 2" [21:49] GrueMaster : I wonder if that's the NIC.. [21:50] lsusb? [21:50] saliak: unplug the network cable, wait a few seconds and plug it in. That seems to make mine work again. [21:50] GrueMaster: shoot, need to run. will be back on later to continue.. thanks for everyone's help [21:53] How in the he!! can I have obsolete packages? I thought the pool was frozen? And why would libpciaccess0 matter for reporting a bug on plymouthd? [21:54] on a platform without PCI? [21:57] GrueMaster: Because, thanks to the plymouth/drm nonsense that I didn't have time to try to fix, libpciaccess0 is actually a plymouth dep. :/ [22:01] Grrrr. [22:05] infinity: I am showing 30 upgraded packages in oneiric, with -security and -updates disabled. Tell me this isn't the final image. [22:05] GrueMaster: No, it's not. [22:05] GrueMaster: It's the image we want some testing against before we build real RCs Sunday night. [22:06] ok. [22:06] (And with any luck, those will be final, but like that ever happens) [22:06] I'll look at the plymouthd crash data and see if it is anything to be concerned about. [23:06] NCommander: software-center traceback and failure to find the package perfectly reproducible on amd64, BTW. Just cp jasper-initramfs/ppa/ti-omap4* /usr/share/app-install/channels/ and then xdg-open jasper-initramfs/ppa/ti-omap4-ppa.desktop [23:07] NCommander: I'll look into it later, but if you get to it before me, yay. [23:07] * infinity finishes getting dressed and leaves.