| === IdleOne is now known as pangolin | ||
| popey | morning | 06:15 |
|---|---|---|
| nigelb | Morning popey! | 06:33 |
| AlanBell | morning | 06:36 |
| AlanBell | 5 hours left popey, use it wisely | 06:36 |
| nigelb | I thought it was already over! | 06:37 |
| popey | ☺ | 06:37 |
| nigelb | That looks big in Ubuntu font! | 06:37 |
| nigelb | (twss, yeah :P) | 06:37 |
| popey | it looks great | 06:37 |
| nigelb | I'll miss the old CC, always active behind the curtain :) | 06:38 |
| nigelb | Morning dholbach! | 06:39 |
| nigelb | Anyone knows when the poll go out? | 06:39 |
| dholbach | hi nigelb | 06:39 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:39 |
| dholbach | which poll? | 06:39 |
| nigelb | New CC! | 06:39 |
| AlanBell | you expired last night dholbach :) | 06:40 |
| dholbach | everything is prepared, we just need to resolve a final question | 06:40 |
| dholbach | I hope to get it out there today | 06:40 |
| nigelb | dholbach: The answer is 42! :D | 06:40 |
| dholbach | thanks nigelb :) | 06:40 |
| nigelb | heh | 06:41 |
| nigelb | The office is empty today! There's like about 4 people per floor. Instead of about 25 to 30-ish | 06:42 |
| nigelb | (2 days of holiday, followed by one working day, followed by 2 days of holiday) | 06:42 |
| popey | ☺ | 06:43 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| dpm | good morning all! | 07:32 |
| nigelb | Morning dpm! | 07:32 |
| dpm | hey nigelb :) | 07:32 |
| kim0 | morning all | 07:55 |
| dholbach | hi kim0 | 08:04 |
| kim0 | dholbach: howdy man | 08:10 |
| czajkowski | Aloha | 08:31 |
| * popey hugs dholbach | 09:00 | |
| czajkowski | can I get one too ......:( | 09:04 |
| popey | I didnt think you liked hugs | 09:14 |
| czajkowski | need one today | 09:16 |
| czajkowski | this whole week has been one long disaster | 09:17 |
| czajkowski | but arrving in for a 9:30 meeting to be told A) it's on elesehwere and B) forgot to tell me I didnt need to be at it | 09:17 |
| czajkowski | kinda sucks | 09:17 |
| * dholbach hugs you all | 09:18 | |
| * czajkowski hugs dholbach | 09:18 | |
| * Pendulum hugs czajkowski | 10:40 | |
| czajkowski | Pendulum: *hugs* | 10:40 |
| * jussi has voted! :D | 10:42 | |
| nigelb | popey: around? | 10:53 |
| popey | hello | 10:53 |
| nigelb | popey: heh, help! Is "foo > /dev/null 2>&1" the right way to make foo quiet? | 10:53 |
| popey | depends how you're running foo | 10:53 |
| nigelb | run from a bash script | 10:54 |
| popey | "nohup ./foo" is nice | 10:54 |
| nigelb | ah! | 10:54 |
| nigelb | that gives me logs as well, right! | 10:54 |
| popey | ya | 10:54 |
| nigelb | popey: Thanks! | 10:54 |
| jussi | Someone should tell martin albisetti to fix his circular linkage on his LP/wiki pages... | 11:18 |
| akgraner | oh crap - forgot about my own wiki page :-/ DOH! | 11:23 |
| jussi | akgraner: get on it!! :D | 11:23 |
| akgraner | yep - I am taking the kids to band camp this morning then back here to fix it :-) | 11:24 |
| AlanBell | popey: Emmet Hikory doesn't expire until next year | 12:49 |
| nigelb | I did wonder about that. | 12:49 |
| nigelb | Maybe his term was for a year since he only stepped up for nixternal? | 12:49 |
| dholbach | AlanBell, nigelb is right - Emmet was picked from the elections results of the year before when nixternal stepped down | 12:52 |
| dholbach | this was done to avoid having yet another election | 12:52 |
| AlanBell | ok | 12:53 |
| dholbach | technically the "people's support" was for that term | 12:53 |
| akgraner | jussi - ok I think it's organized a bit better :-) you can tell me if I missed something ... | 12:53 |
| dholbach | it was just never reflected in LP | 12:53 |
| jussi | akgraner: link me again? | 12:53 |
| AlanBell | I was just checking it was deliberate | 12:53 |
| nigelb | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmberGraner | 12:53 |
| dholbach | thanks AlanBell, nigelb | 12:54 |
| nigelb | dholbach: Thanks for confirming :) | 12:54 |
| nigelb | akgraner: It looks much better! | 12:54 |
| akgraner | nigelb, thanks! | 12:54 |
| akgraner | nigelb, - I am sure I left something out :-/ | 12:55 |
| * popey updates his blog post | 12:56 | |
| dholbach | thanks popey | 12:58 |
| popey | np | 12:58 |
| popey | wonder how many people will vote | 12:58 |
| popey | out of what, 700 or so? | 12:59 |
| czajkowski | with a week to do it | 12:59 |
| czajkowski | that alone is interesting | 12:59 |
| nigelb | popey: we're 700 now? neat. | 12:59 |
| AlanBell | 687 humans | 12:59 |
| AlanBell | 1 bot | 12:59 |
| nigelb | aha, 687. | 12:59 |
| dholbach | 686 actually | 13:00 |
| dholbach | there was scott and scott-canonical in there | 13:00 |
| dholbach | but I haven't had the time yet to find out why there's 2 Scotts | 13:00 |
| nigelb | ah. | 13:00 |
| nigelb | lol | 13:00 |
| dholbach | if somebody wants to investigate, please do | 13:00 |
| dholbach | I just made sure he just has one vote :) | 13:00 |
| nigelb | I there was a work ID vs volunteering ID. | 13:01 |
| nigelb | *I guess | 13:01 |
| nigelb | wait a minute. | 13:01 |
| nigelb | scott-canonical? | 13:01 |
| nigelb | Doesn't exist. | 13:01 |
| AlanBell | ah, yes 686, I counted the header row on my spreadsheet :) | 13:01 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: haha :D | 13:01 |
| AlanBell | I had no duplicate scott | 13:01 |
| dholbach | sorry, canonical-scott | 13:01 |
| nigelb | so, 685? | 13:02 |
| dholbach | https://launchpad.net/~canonical-scott - https://launchpad.net/~scott | 13:02 |
| AlanBell | then again . . . | 13:02 |
| dholbach | 686 | 13:02 |
| jussi | i | 13:02 |
| popey | o | 13:02 |
| dholbach | in any case it's lunch time over here | 13:02 |
| dholbach | if you find out anything, let me know | 13:02 |
| popey | :D | 13:02 |
| jussi | popey: no... i686 :P | 13:02 |
| AlanBell | I agree on the 686 | 13:02 |
| popey | ahhh | 13:02 |
| nigelb | jussi: heh | 13:03 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: so outta the 686 how many are women ? | 13:45 |
| pleia2 | czajkowski: 4.97% | 13:47 |
| pleia2 | we keep track on http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/ReportingPage and http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UbuntuMembers has stats | 13:47 |
| czajkowski | pleia2: deadly | 13:47 |
| pleia2 | it's worth noting that those are only ones who people have met and/or who have come out in public somehow (blog, wiki testimonials, etc) with a female gender | 13:48 |
| pleia2 | without a doubt (it's always the case in open source) there are members who haven't disclosed their gender | 13:49 |
| czajkowski | nods | 13:51 |
| czajkowski | of course | 13:51 |
| akgraner | awesome stats! Thanks AlanBell for tracking that.... | 14:03 |
| akgraner | pleia2, I know this brings a smile to your face - Did you think it take this long to reach almost 5% when you were working to establish the UW Team... | 14:04 |
| 18VAACABT | dholbach: question on the voting - if I rank 3 people #1, does that help or their chance, as opposed to ranking them 1, 2, 3? | 14:08 |
| popey | it helps them compared to others :D | 14:08 |
| 18VAACABT | popey: ok, so it's better to have three #1s than ranking them 1,2,3, -thanks! | 14:09 |
| popey | dunno if it's "better" | 14:09 |
| popey | it doesnt help in a runoff between them | 14:09 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: we actually hit 5% last november and then it dropped :\ we're approaching 5 again | 14:10 |
| popey | but i am not the best person to ask about condorcet voting | 14:10 |
| popey | there's vast documentation about it online :D | 14:10 |
| 18VAACABT | popey: I'm used to the ones where you just rank the candidates in order, not rank them the same level | 14:11 |
| popey | yeah, its different isnt it | 14:13 |
| akgraner | Scott Richie is the one to ask about voting polls | 14:13 |
| popey | fun though :D | 14:13 |
| akgraner | he knows all the ends and outs of those things | 14:13 |
| 18VAACABT | how many total places are going to be filled? | 14:13 |
| popey | 7 | 14:14 |
| popey | it says on the form :D | 14:14 |
| popey | iirc | 14:14 |
| dholbach | 18VAACABT, if you need more info, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method | 14:14 |
| erward | dholbach: hey | 14:21 |
| erward | I was wondering if you had a minute | 14:21 |
| dholbach | heya erward | 14:21 |
| dholbach | sure | 14:22 |
| czajkowski | hmm every time I see erward I keep thinking of jedward http://www.google.co.uk/search?gcx=w&ix=c2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=jedward | 14:22 |
| czajkowski | most confusin | 14:22 |
| erward | ok, Jono has ask me for one of my upcoming action items to be... "Creat a web page with a set of graphs and metrics to effectively determine growth." | 14:22 |
| erward | he mentioned you as a reference point for some existing work in this area | 14:23 |
| * erward thinks about updating my handle to include a j in it | 14:24 | |
| czajkowski | :) | 14:24 |
| erward | czajkowski: I actually have the same hairstyle as those guys | 14:24 |
| dholbach | erward, I can help you set up a number of graphs, but I'd suggest having a chat with bdmurray first, because he has set up a bunch of bug-related graphs already | 14:24 |
| erward | except it is on my back | 14:24 |
| dholbach | or was this more about testing? | 14:25 |
| dholbach | because in that case it'll be a bit harder because we can't (at least AFAIK) get data from iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 14:25 |
| erward | dholbach: yeah it was for testing | 14:25 |
| dholbach | so yeah, it's hard to get data out of that thing :) | 14:26 |
| dholbach | but generally it might make sense to first list numbers you'd like to track in the future | 14:27 |
| czajkowski | erward: you're not helping your case you know that right :) | 14:27 |
| erward | I did talk with jibel a little bit about iso.qa.ubuntu.com and testing.qa.ubuntu.com and how it is pretty hard to track any useful reporting mechanisms | 14:27 |
| * dholbach nods | 14:27 | |
| popey | I spy sabdfl monkeying with the cc and techboard on launchpad :D | 14:28 |
| erward | which made me look into litmus (https://litmus.mozilla.org/run_tests.cgi) | 14:28 |
| erward | https://litmus.mozilla.org/test_run_report.cgi?test_run_id=355 | 14:28 |
| dholbach | erward, something like: number of tests/testers per cycle/milestone, test coverage per milestone, time to full test coverage per milestone, found bugs per milestone, etc | 14:29 |
| erward | yeah, those sound about right for metrics to track | 14:29 |
| dholbach | if you can come up with a list of things you need from the site, we could try to find out what needs to be done to export this kind of data | 14:30 |
| erward | ok, thanks for the pointers and I'll continue to dig in further | 14:31 |
| dholbach | erward, and if it just spits out json or csv data, we could do the graphs separately | 14:31 |
| erward | k | 14:32 |
| czajkowski | Happy Ada Lovelace Day, in honor of the world's 1st programmer! | 14:33 |
| pangolin | I voted, good luck to all who are running for CC. | 14:45 |
| czajkowski | pangolin: Thanks | 14:45 |
| pangolin | also, I know a good head shrink if you want :P | 14:46 |
| AlanBell | pleia2: with the stats, in the very few cases where it has been unclear I have spoken to the person in question, explained the context and asked them how they would like to be counted | 15:06 |
| pleia2 | AlanBell: I've known women who use "obviously male" names in their open source work | 15:08 |
| AlanBell | yup, that can happen, interestingly the new forums members have been noticably different in the way they use their identity | 15:13 |
| czajkowski | techincally speaking my nick is male | 15:17 |
| czajkowski | but feck it by now ye all know me :) | 15:17 |
| AlanBell | fairly sure I have you classified correctly in the stats :) | 15:18 |
| mhall119 | yeah, czajkowski is obviously male.... | 15:18 |
| mhall119 | (the nick, not the person) | 15:19 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: yup | 15:22 |
| czajkowski | my nick on college network is cypher | 15:22 |
| czajkowski | and still to this day most assume they are talking to a bloke | 15:22 |
| czajkowski | was funny when I'd turn up to events | 15:22 |
| czajkowski | or um.. run a computer society made up of blokes | 15:23 |
| AlanBell | http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/ <- needs updating for the Precise Pangolin | 15:24 |
| AlanBell | um, is that actually working for people not in my house? | 15:25 |
| popey | it works from here in your cupboard, yes | 15:26 |
| * AlanBell checks outside the window to make sure popey isn't wardriving | 15:26 | |
| pangolin | works here AlanBell | 15:26 |
| pangolin | I'm in your shed though | 15:27 |
| AlanBell | OK, well you are far enough away pangolin, it must be working | 15:27 |
| AlanBell | it needs a graphical refresh I think | 15:27 |
| nigelb | somehow I knew pangolin was idleone | 15:27 |
| nigelb | Though I did wonder why it wasn't PreciseOne | 15:27 |
| pangolin | nigelb: you know me so well :) | 15:28 |
| pangolin | I have that nick also | 15:28 |
| pangolin | hehe | 15:28 |
| czajkowski | seriously I don wondering what mark does be on when he comes up with the flipping names | 15:28 |
| popey | I like them. | 15:28 |
| nigelb | pangolin: hah | 15:28 |
| pangolin | I do also, learns me new animals | 15:28 |
| AlanBell | as I understand it the naming process goes like this | 15:29 |
| popey | pangolin is already an ubuntu hit on the first page of google | 15:29 |
| popey | whereas it wasnt last week | 15:29 |
| AlanBell | sabdfl picks a name, then silbs tells him why he can't have that one and picks another | 15:29 |
| pleia2 | anyone know the status of the RC? people keep asking me about it | 15:29 |
| nigelb | pleia2: No RC. | 15:30 |
| pleia2 | nigelb: thanks | 15:30 |
| nigelb | pleia2: Nothing public, but there's some testing thing. | 15:30 |
| nigelb | Officially though, no RC. | 15:30 |
| pleia2 | nigelb: it's still on the release schedule so people are all confused | 15:30 |
| AlanBell | just daily live | 15:30 |
| AlanBell | o/ skaet | 15:31 |
| nigelb | pleia2: Yeah, I know. I think there was a mail from kate or I saw it in the channel | 15:31 |
| pleia2 | one guy from my loco was waiting for it last night to burn for the ubuntu hour, he went with daily | 15:31 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: ping | 15:31 |
| dholbach | jcastro, how about a developer session at UOW? | 15:45 |
| nigelb | I thought UOW was about using Ubuntu nowadays | 15:46 |
| dholbach | I'm just offering :) | 15:46 |
| nigelb | heh | 15:47 |
| jussi | werent we getting rid of UOW? | 15:53 |
| dholbach | no way | 15:53 |
| jussi | which was the one that was supposed to die then? | 15:53 |
| akgraner | dholbach, we used to have them so I think it would be fine :-) We have new users that want to know more about that stuff...kinda like a teaser for developer and app developer week | 15:54 |
| akgraner | but that's just my thoughts | 15:54 |
| pleia2 | jussi: user days, but we did a poll and people want us to keep it | 15:54 |
| jussi | pleia2: oh, ok then | 15:54 |
| jussi | akgraner: ++, I think a beginners developer session would be perfect | 15:55 |
| dholbach | great, I guess I'll add myself then | 15:56 |
| akgraner | pleia2, I think people like the time zones UUD operates in and the fact that it's just one continual day...and on the weekend not weekday - so they don't have to miss work etc. | 15:56 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: yep | 15:57 |
| pleia2 | I made some slides for an upcoming 11.10 talk, anyone care to take a look to tell me if I missed anything obvious? | 15:57 |
| pleia2 | (you'll have to ignore a unity jab at the beginning, I know my audience and it's a small group ;)) | 15:57 |
| akgraner | hehe | 15:57 |
| akgraner | link? | 15:58 |
| * pleia2 shares in secret | 15:58 | |
| akgraner | k | 15:58 |
| jussi | as topyli says, there is some ho | 15:59 |
| dholbach | jcastro, added my session | 15:59 |
| jussi | hope | 15:59 |
| jussi | http://falkvinge.net/2011/10/07/huge-pirate-victory-as-eu-party-group-adopts-perspective-on-copyright-monopoly/ | 15:59 |
| dholbach | who's helping jcastro with the organisation of UOW this time around? | 15:59 |
| dholbach | it looks like we should get a move on getting sessions scheduled | 15:59 |
| czajkowski | is jcastro alive | 16:02 |
| czajkowski | he's very quiet | 16:02 |
| dholbach | I think he's at a conference | 16:03 |
| czajkowski | ahh | 16:04 |
| czajkowski | buzy bumble bee | 16:04 |
| popey | pleia2: I'll look (bored at work) | 16:04 |
| akgraner | dholbach, me - but I've been a little slack gotta get on the stick and kick some folks | 16:05 |
| dholbach | a bit of last minute action then :) | 16:05 |
| dholbach | I'm sure it'll be a great UOW again | 16:06 |
| akgraner | dholbach, yep - sorry about that | 16:06 |
| dholbach | no no | 16:06 |
| dholbach | I didn't mean to complain | 16:06 |
| akgraner | I didn't take it that way - but you're right - :-) | 16:07 |
| * akgraner prepares to kick people - get ready for all my crazy emails... | 16:07 | |
| dholbach | as a team I think we're good at pulling things together, even if it's in the last minute :) | 16:08 |
| akgraner | dholbach, totally | 16:14 |
| akgraner | so if you all can kick some people too :-) | 16:14 |
| akgraner | I'll email the loco-contacts today | 16:14 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - I call it a day | 17:21 |
| dholbach | have a great WE! | 17:22 |
| kim0 | Enjoy your WE everyone .. see you all on Thu o/ | 17:23 |
| === kim0 is now known as kim0|holiday | ||
| jussi | weekends rule :D | 17:23 |
| akgraner | Good Grief - Free software founder, Richard M. Stallman is glad Jobs is gone - http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-founder-richard-m-stallman-is-glad-jobs-is-gone/9707 | 17:42 |
| jussi | Im hanging out, if anyone wants to join me :) | 17:43 |
| jussi | akgraner: glad you finally got to that in your feed reader :P | 17:45 |
| akgraner | jussi, some days are full of facepalm... | 17:46 |
| jussi | akgraner: come hang out with me :D | 17:46 |
| akgraner | I can't right this second - I'm cooking getting ready for a friend who's coming from out of town | 17:47 |
| akgraner | so the computer is in the kitchen with me - and well being on camera would not be flattering at them moment | 17:47 |
| jussi | haha | 17:47 |
| skaet | AlanBell, pre-release images are posted for testing on the ISO tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/; these are dry runs for the official candidates that will be cut on Monday, so testing is much appreciated. | 17:54 |
| AlanBell | great, I will be doing some screenshots and videos of the accessibility features | 18:00 |
| AlanBell | and a full transcript of a screen reader install | 18:01 |
| AlanBell | http://pad.ubuntu.com/precisewords help me update http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk | 18:19 |
| AlanBell | I will be doing a visual refresh of the site as well | 18:21 |
| sense | football! Netherlands - Moldavia. Lets hope for our honour that it won't be an interesting game. ;) | 18:29 |
| popey | Evening everyone! | 18:34 |
| === daker is now known as daker_ | ||
| mhall119 | where is jcastro hiding today? | 19:03 |
| Daviey | mhall119: he is at Openstack Design Summit, Boston. | 19:03 |
| mhall119 | oh, that would explain it | 19:03 |
| Daviey | I think i left as he arrived. :) | 19:03 |
| nigelb | Daviey: Why aren't you? | 19:03 |
| mhall119 | Daviey: awesome announcement about HP's cloud product using Ubuntu | 19:03 |
| nigelb | Or were you there for some parts of it? | 19:03 |
| Daviey | nigelb: I was at the Summit, Mon-Wed, Thurs and Friday was a conference. | 19:04 |
| Daviey | I skipped the conference. | 19:04 |
| nigelb | ah | 19:04 |
| * czajkowski tickles Daviey | 19:10 | |
| * Daviey giggles like a little lad. | 19:31 | |
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