[14:59] <pitti> hello
[15:00]  * stgraber waves
[15:00]  * skaet waves
[15:00] <jibel> o/
[15:00] <skaet> #startmeeting
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[15:00]  * joshuahoover waves
[15:00]  * charlie-tca waves
[15:00] <skaet> [TOPIC] Release general overview - skaet
[15:00] <skaet> Agenda can be found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-10-07
[15:01] <skaet> We're in Final Freeze for Main and the Seeded Universe.  Thank you for all the fixes that have been submitted over this last week!  :)   We've got dry run images up on the iso tester,  and are in the final stretch.   Only high/critical fixes necessary to release that can't be SRU'd will be accepted now.    If you discover a problem that fits that criteria, please join us in #ubuntu-release and start the discussion.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Plan for the next week:
[15:01] <skaet> Today/Tomorrow - Testing of dry images, and selective respins as requested by product managers/release team.
[15:01] <skaet> Sunday - everything gets marked offical and we try for the candidate image builds and populate the ISO tracker
[15:01] <skaet> Monday - testing and analysis of any issues found.
[15:01] <skaet> Tuesday - testing and analysis, release notes,  unseeded universe freeze at 1200 UTC
[15:01] <skaet> Wednesday - testing and analysis, release notes,  checklist run throughs
[15:01] <skaet> Thursday - 11.10 Release
[15:01] <skaet> #LINK http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-o-tracking-bugs.html
[15:02] <skaet> has the bugs we're trying to drive down to 0
[15:02] <skaet> Would also like to request all the flavor product leads take a pass through
[15:02] <skaet> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseManifest
[15:02] <skaet> and confirm the details are accurate for their images
[15:02] <skaet> .after testing reports today,  request for the team during the round table is:
[15:02] <skaet> 1) any known release blocker bug to fix prior to Sunday?
[15:02] <skaet> 2) which 0 day SRU's are in plan?
[15:02] <skaet> .
[15:02] <skaet> questions?
[15:02] <skaet> ..
[15:04]  * skaet looks around...  not seeing any hands
[15:04] <skaet> heading into round table then.
[15:04] <skaet> [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris
[15:04] <mlegris> [Week 40 Testing Report]
[15:04] <mlegris> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/week40_2011.html
[15:04] <mlegris> .
[15:04] <mlegris> Bugs:
[15:04] <mlegris> *  Bug #810145 - unity-panel-service crashes - has been fixed
[15:05] <mlegris> gearing up for the 11.10 release and the cert testing that will follow
[15:05] <mlegris> Also, No to 1 and 2 :)
[15:05] <skaet> :)
[15:05] <mlegris> Any questions?
[15:05] <mlegris> Seeing none
[15:05] <mlegris> ..
[15:06] <skaet> Thanks mlegris,  glad there's nothing on your blocker list.  :)
[15:06] <mlegris> np skaet
[15:06] <skaet> [TOPIC] QA team update -  jibel
[15:06] <jibel> = Pre-release images smoke testing =
[15:07] <jibel> * Upgrade:
[15:07] <jibel> Ubuntu Desktop/Server i386|amd64: Passed
[15:07] <jibel> Automatic Upgrade Testing almost white (mythbuntu failed)
[15:07] <jibel> http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/
[15:07] <jibel> * Installation:
[15:07] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Desktop i386/amd64: Passed
[15:07] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Desktop USB i386/amd64: Passed
[15:07] <jibel> randomly affected by bug 769359
[15:07] <jibel>   * Wubi i386/amd64: Passed
[15:07] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Alternate i386/amd64: Passed
[15:07] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Server i386/amd64: Passed
[15:08] <jibel> automated test is randomly affected by bug 818177, a restart of the system shows that it installed correctly.
[15:08] <jibel>   * Netboot Desktop, Desktop USB and Server tasks: Passed
[15:08] <jibel> Testcases not reviewed yet:
[15:08] <jibel> * Desktop: LTSP, CJK, Screen-reader,  amd64+mac
[15:08] <jibel> * Server: RAID, Encypted LVM, iSCSI
[15:08] <jibel> List of bugs reported:
[15:08] <jibel> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/report
[15:08] <jibel> = Boot speed =
[15:08] <jibel> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/
[15:08] <jibel> it is stable
[15:09] <jibel> ..
[15:09] <jibel> questions ?
[15:09] <skaet> Thanks jibel!   much appreciated!
[15:09] <skaet> looks like both issues are known, and we'll be keeping fingers crossed nothing else shows up.
[15:10] <cjwatson> I think in practice 769359 is probably a bug somewhere else, depending on what process got killed
[15:11] <cjwatson> installs just inherently use more memory to start with due to running from a live CD, and so ubiquity tends to get victimised by this
[15:11] <cjwatson> (it's not the *most* memory-compact of programs itself, but ...)
[15:11] <mvo> fwiw, the failure of mythubuntu is a false postive
[15:11] <mvo> (in the auto-upgrade-tester)
[15:13] <jibel> and I forgot, wubi upgrade is not tested yet.
[15:13] <skaet> jibel,  fix for 818177 was in discussion last night,  expect to pick it up if we re-spin server before Sunday.
[15:14] <skaet> jibel,  ack, re: wubi
[15:14]  * skaet looks around,  not seeing any more comments,  moving on
[15:15] <skaet> [TOPIC] Security team update - jdstrand or micahg
[15:15] <jibel> k, we'll need a respin of desktop for today's unity and lightdm uploads
[15:15] <skaet> jibel,  so it seems.   ping you when its done.
[15:16]  * skaet not seeing jdstrand,  moving on.
[15:16] <skaet> [TOPIC] Kernel team update - ogasawara
[15:16] <ogasawara> Overall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for Oneiric Final is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:
[15:16] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[15:16] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.10.html
[15:16] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kernel-tasks.html
[15:16] <ogasawara> Yesterday we uploaded a new linux-meta-3.0.0-12.14 to resolve some missing meta-packages.  This morning we also uploaded a new linux-3.0.0-12.20 kernel to resolve unmet install dependency issues for linux-image-extra.  We uploaded to -proposed as a safety precaution in case it takes too long to build.  It will be copied to the release pocket should it finish building in time, else it'll be promoted to -updates as a day 0.
[15:16] <ogasawara>  Also, with kernel.org coming back online, upstream stable v3.0.5 and v3.0.6 were released.  We've queued these stable updates for the first Oneiric kernel SRU.  We are currently below both of our final milestone and overall burndown charts.  The remaining 2 work items are not release critical.
[15:17] <ogasawara> Of the remaining bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, status is as follows:
[15:17] <ogasawara> #480444 - Needs further investigation.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #710733 - Package is for debug purposes, not release critical.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #714862 - Assigned to kernel dev, investigation ongoing.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #746133 - Fix Released.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #754711 - On a 3.0 oneiric kernel, system now suspends but doesn't resume.  further invetigation required.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #758486 - Fix Released.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #761082 - Confirmed against Oneiric, investigation ongoing.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #790712 - The order 5 allocation seems to be bogus and non-fatal; further investigation ongoing.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #814325 - Issue confirmed upstream, further investigation required.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #831954 - Fix Released.
[15:17] <ogasawara> #836250 - Assigned to kernel dev, performance tests indicate environmental factors.
[15:17] <ogasawara> Questions?
[15:17] <ogasawara> ..
[15:18] <skaet> Thanks ogasawara!   you've answered my 2 questions in your summary.
[15:19] <skaet> [TOPIC] Foundations team update - cjwatson
[15:19] <cjwatson> Bug 818177: partial workaround being tested in a PPA, may require upload prior to Sunday
[15:19] <cjwatson> Bug 854837: some debug output acquired, may or may not help, probably not a showstopper
[15:19] <cjwatson> Bug 853688: remaining piece in command-not-found not critical, -> updates
[15:19] <cjwatson> Important bugs elsewhere:
[15:19] <cjwatson> Bug 572128 in Launchpad has arisen as a regression due to the multiarch-translations work last cycle; working on getting this sorted out pre-release to avoid having to republish later
[15:19] <cjwatson> ..
[15:20] <skaet> Thanks cjwatson!  bugs noted.
[15:20] <skaet> anyone have questions?
[15:21] <cjwatson> oh, s/last cycle/this cycle/ in my last line there, sorry
[15:21] <skaet> [TOPIC] Server team update - Daviey
[15:21] <Daviey> o/
[15:21] <skaet> :)
[15:21] <Daviey> bug 801494 - Multi part LVM layout: system fails to boot due to missing volumes - Suspect related to other udev issues, which foundations are investigating
[15:22] <Daviey> bug 850880 - cobbler-ubuntu-import does not pull from -updates - Assigned to adam who is travelling until Eow, it's touching a universe package so not a huge rush.
[15:22] <Daviey> bug 838581 - Failures in db_pool code: 'NoneType' object has no attribute '_keymap' or not returning rows. - will be in next nova upload
[15:22] <Daviey> bug 803488 - [Oneiric] Load xen_blkback and xen_netback on startup
[15:22] <Daviey>  - Need to confirm the fix (univese package)
[15:22] <Daviey> Really, i think we are looking OK.
[15:22] <Daviey> I don't think there is anything urgent that we need to touch a main package for at the current time.
[15:23] <Daviey> RC - might proove otherwise.
[15:23] <Daviey> The udev bug(s), which foundations are looking at is causing concern.
[15:23] <Daviey> ..
[15:24] <Daviey> tap tap, is this thing on?
[15:24] <skaet> Thanks Daviey!
[15:24] <Daviey> \o/
[15:24] <skaet> yup,  just looking up some of the bugs.
[15:24] <Daviey> Questions?
[15:25] <skaet> what bugs fixes do you want to trigger respins before Sunday?
[15:25] <skaet> 818177,  xen-linux-system - are the two that I've noted.
[15:26] <skaet> am I missing something?
[15:26] <Daviey> I'm not sure we have any which we need to do TBH.
[15:26] <Daviey> There might be a tweak to the cobbler enlistment tool... (no bug))
[15:26] <Daviey> but otherwise, thigns we NEED to do - seem to be complete
[15:26] <Daviey> If the dev issue(s) are solved before then, i'd uite like a respin :)
[15:26] <Daviey> s/dev/udev/
[15:27] <skaet> Daviey,  fair enough.   thanks.
[15:27] <skaet> Daviey,  how do the cloud images look?
[15:27] <Daviey> Great!
[15:27] <Daviey> i think they have had more exposure this cycle.
[15:27] <skaet> good to hear.  :)
[15:27] <Daviey> things were noticed earlier, i think.
[15:28] <skaet> :)
[15:28] <skaet> [TOPIC] ARM team update - ogra_
[15:28] <ogra_> GRR, if the unity launcher wouldnt always move in front of me i could actually paste ...
[15:29] <ogra_> = Full Status is at: =
[15:29] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[15:29] <ogra_> --
[15:29] <ogra_> = Summary =
[15:29] <ogra_>  * Team focus is on image testing this and next week
[15:29] <ogra_>  * Banshee was finally dropped yesterday, there seems to be no fix in sight atm, bug is still being researched but we didnt want to risk the release
[15:29] <ogra_>  * There was one uboot upload to fix an overheating problem on OMAP 4460, so that oneiric images will work on the new panda platforms.
[15:29] <ogra_>  * The partman-uboot issue was not solved, we will release-note that guided partitioning creates to small boot partitions.
[15:29] <ogra_> --
[15:29] <ogra_> = Image Status =
[15:29] <ogra_>  * Desktop images build
[15:29] <ogra_>  * Server images are good
[15:29] <ogra_>  * Netboot images are fine too
[15:29] <ogra_> --
[15:29] <ogra_> = Specs =
[15:29] <ogra_>  - Entire http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html
[15:29] <ogra_> --
[15:29] <ogra_> ha !
[15:29] <ogra_> copy/paste from a maximized terminal really needs some usability rework :P
[15:30]  * skaet suggests a bug be opened.... against Precise ;)
[15:30] <pitti> I just disable the launcher popup on the screen edge, it drives me crazy
[15:30] <pitti> skaet: believe me, we argued for hours and days -- design decision
[15:30] <pitti> (in natty already)
[15:30] <ogra_> yeah
[15:30]  * jibel hands some stacking issues to ogra_ so the launcher will shows behind windows.
[15:31] <ogra_> marking something on the top left corner always makes you end up on the launcher ...
[15:31] <ogra_> jibel, lol
[15:31] <ogra_> exactly what i need :)
[15:31] <ogra_> skaet, anyway, not much from arm today, we're in testing mode
[15:32] <skaet> ogra_ thanks!   suspected that would be the case,  and will keep fingers crossed nothing too critical pops up.
[15:32] <ogra_> thanks :)
[15:32] <skaet> any questions for ogra_ ?
[15:32] <skaet> [TOPIC] Linaro update - fabo
[15:32] <fabo> = Developer Platform =
[15:33] <fabo>  * Planning for Linaro 11.10 took most of the week
[15:33] <fabo>  * Switch to Oneiric based images on-going; several regressions to fix compared to Natty images; server image added;
[15:33] <fabo>  * New Unity 3D with full GLES support planned to be integrated on Oneiric based images
[15:33] <fabo>  * John Rigby has pushed fixes for bug 867670 and bug 867650
[15:33] <fabo>  * Marcin has pushed a fix for bug 864591
[15:33] <fabo> ..
[15:34] <skaet> Thanks fabo!
[15:34]  * skaet will ask about the  regressions a bit more next week offline.
[15:34] <skaet> [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team - joshuahoover
[15:34] <fabo> skaet: ok :)
[15:35] <joshuahoover> there are 2 bugs that we have targeted for srus right now:
[15:35] <joshuahoover> bug 807737 - u1-client file sync - corner case where files can be moved to the trash, fix is ready just needs packaged & uploaded as an sru (in both oneiric and natty)
[15:35] <joshuahoover> bug 851044  - banshee music store crash - webkit fix for this bug fixes the crash, we'll still release a fix for libu1 as an sru
[15:35] <joshuahoover> and one other bug that should be fixed in our packages but could still cause problems due to a bug elsewhere:
[15:35] <joshuahoover> bug 825280 - t-bird u1 address book - we fixed the authentication related errors in a desktopcouch release & released an update to couchdb-glib as well that provides a fix but we may still see "book backend is opening" errors which are likely due to recent changes in evolution-data-server
[15:35] <joshuahoover> ...and that's it
[15:35] <joshuahoover> --
[15:35] <skaet> thanks joshuahoover!   can that last one be release noted?
[15:36] <joshuahoover> skaet: yes, i believe so, i'm still personally trying to test it to see if it's an issue
[15:36] <skaet> thanks!   please let me know the results of your testing.
[15:37] <joshuahoover> skaet: will do :)
[15:37] <skaet> :)
[15:37] <skaet> [TOPIC] Desktop Team update  - pitti
[15:37] <pitti> Almost exclusively RC bug fixing and debugging this week. In particular, we fixed several critical issues in lightdm.
[15:37] <pitti> Landed final langpacks today, not yet on the currently tested images. In particular, this now has the translations for the new ubuntu-docs. This uncovered bug 869815, but that got worked around by some manual hacking.
[15:37] <pitti> Cleaned up http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-o-tracking-bugs.html#desktop -- all but one now have assignees, and closed the duplicate/already fixed ones
[15:37] <pitti> At this point, all release-tracked bugs on above list/on our radar are SRU candidates and not release blockers (those were fixed in late uploads).
[15:37] <pitti> Planned 0-day SRUs so far:
[15:37] <pitti>  * cups (bug 860691 and bug 860498); I'd be happy with uploading it right now (the patch looks safe to me), but as skaet called out a hard freeze now, it's in the -proposed queue for now.
[15:38] <pitti> Status of other release targetted bugs is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus#rcbugs
[15:38] <pitti> ..
[15:39] <skaet> Thanks pitti,  that answered my questions about the SRUs quite nicely.
[15:39] <skaet> I'll go in and mark all of the ones on the lists as updates, and Precise targets then.
[15:39] <pitti> skaet: I think I already did that
[15:40] <skaet> pitti,  coolio.  :)   is everything in now,  for a respin for jibel?   or do we need to wait for a few things to land?
[15:40] <pitti> i. e. dropping the ubuntu-11.10 milestone, and moving to -updates
[15:40] <skaet> yup, that should have done it.
[15:40] <pitti> skaet: yes from my side, unless we want cups
[15:40] <pitti> langpacks are all built
[15:41] <pitti> but cups is by far not a blocker
[15:41] <pitti> I saw a software-center landing in the queue, though; haven't looked at that yet
[15:41] <skaet> if cups not a blocker,  prefer to leave it in the 0day SRU bucket at this point.
[15:41] <skaet> re: software-center.  ok, lets discuss after meeting.
[15:42] <pitti> skaet: oh, hang on; the current linux build doesn't change anything but the broken dependency, but we might want that on the images, I think
[15:42] <pitti> (if for nothing else than to test for toolchain regressions and the like)
[15:43] <skaet> pitti,  yes.  prefer to check while we can.   ok. we'll see when it lands, and decide.
[15:44] <skaet> [TOPIC] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth_
[15:44] <dbarth_> hello
[15:44] <dbarth_> report at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/OneiricReleaseStatus
[15:44] <dbarth_> point release upload on tuesday
[15:45] <dbarth_> we have more 0-day sru candidates for compiz & unity, tracked at http://tinyurl.com/6bo5mro (ie the crticals)
[15:45] <dbarth_> in particular the recent compiz issues reported have a fix in testing
[15:45] <dbarth_> #869316 and #869919
[15:45] <dbarth_> ..
[15:46] <skaet> Thanks for the SRU list,  dbarth_!
[15:46] <skaet> I'll take a pass through them after the meeting and cross check against the ones I've been tracking.
[15:47] <dbarth_> ok
[15:47] <skaet> Is there anything you consider a blocker at this point that can't be fixed with those 0 day SRU ones?
[15:47] <dbarth_> i've cross checked those as well
[15:48] <dbarth_> no show stopper that i can spot
[15:48] <skaet> thanks!  very glad to here it.
[15:48] <dbarth_> the compiz issues are disappointing, but they can't block you for installing., booting, updating
[15:49] <skaet> any other questions for dbarth_?
[15:49] <skaet> [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team update - ScottK
[15:50]  * skaet looks around for ScottK?
[15:50] <skaet> [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team update - stgraber or highvoltage
[15:50] <stgraber> Hi everyone!
[15:50] <stgraber> Edubuntu still looks good this week.
[15:50] <stgraber> I've started running upgrade testing yesterday and didn't run into any noticable/unexpected problem, expecting to have these done today.
[15:51] <stgraber> mvo also just started running auto upgrade testing of Edubuntu! that should save me quite a bit of time, thanks!
[15:51]  * highvoltage waves
[15:51] <stgraber> WebLive is now available on Oneiric though not the install-anything function that will still need some more work (but can wait till post-release).
[15:51] <stgraber> Only bugs found in WebLive so far are: bug 870055 and bug 870061 with the first one being the worst. I hope to have it fixed by release so I can just run a custom unity-2d build.
[15:51] <stgraber> I'll be doing more WebLive testing and fixing on Sunday from London as the latency to the servers is going to be much lower (WebLive is hosted in Germany).
[15:51] <stgraber> mgariepy will get us new screenshots of everything and I hope to have all the documentation and release anouncement written this weekend so I can just flip the switch on Thursday.
[15:51] <stgraber> And that's it!
[15:51] <stgraber> ..
[15:51] <stgraber> Questions?
[15:51] <skaet> Thanks stgraber!   sounds good.   :)
[15:52] <skaet> [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team update - charlie-tca
[15:52] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu looks good at this time. Images are sized good again. blueman crashes after the restart, it will probably be fixed with an update. We are not planning 0day SRU's at this time and no blockers today.
[15:52] <charlie-tca> bug 840094 : I will add it to release notes, users installing from the desktop have no issue. It will only affect those who do not run the live session installer.
[15:53] <charlie-tca> I should probably say the Xubuntu will be writing separate release notes for the final release. We will be putting in a reference to them in the Ubuntu release notes.
[15:53] <charlie-tca> Any questions?
[15:53] <charlie-tca> ..
[15:53] <skaet> Thanks charlie-tca!   That sounds fine re: release notes.
[15:53] <skaet> glad no blockers on your side.
[15:54] <charlie-tca> That's not to say they won't mess us up with the latest changes, of course.
[15:55]  * skaet is keeping her fingers crossed that is not the case.
[15:55] <skaet> [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team update - gilir
[15:55] <gilir> hi :)
[15:55] <gilir> Not much to report this week.
[15:55] <gilir> Still fighting with bug 854837, still not reproductible and difficult to track.
[15:55] <gilir> Other bugs we are tracking on ISO testing are known issues since a long time on Lubuntu, or minor issues (nothing to block the release).
[15:55] <gilir> No 0-day SRU planned.
[15:55] <gilir> ..
[15:56] <skaet> Thanks gilir!
[15:56] <skaet> Will we be release noting 854837, or still hoping for a fix.
[15:56] <skaet> ?
[15:57] <gilir> probably just release noting if I can't reproduce it
[15:57] <skaet> ack.
[15:57] <gilir> I plan to test on more hardware to try to reproduce it and give mor einfo
[15:57] <skaet> good luck.
[15:57] <gilir> thanks :)
[15:58] <skaet> [TOPIC] MOTU Team update - tumbleweed
[15:58] <tumbleweed> hi. pretty quiet week for MOTU (quite cycle too)
[15:58] <tumbleweed> nothing big remaining, that I know of, except the vlc sync that still needs review
[15:58] <tumbleweed> and piles of RC bugs that should probably be review, but we're running out of time on that...
[15:58] <tumbleweed> ..
[15:59] <Laney> yeah, please help with http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ if you get bored
[15:59] <skaet> Thanks tumbleweed and Laney.  :)
[16:00] <skaet> [TOPIC] any other business?  comments?   questions?
[16:00] <doko> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P-SeriesOpening
[16:00] <doko> please add to this page, and prepare packages for next Friday
[16:01]  * cjwatson takes dpkg from that list
[16:01] <cjwatson> I'll prepare it in whatever dead time there is at the release spsrint
[16:01] <cjwatson> *sprint
[16:01] <skaet> thanks for raising doko. :)
[16:01] <cjwatson> also next Thursday if you can :-)
[16:02] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview
[16:02] <cjwatson> sometimes we manage to do some initial opening on the Thursdday
[16:02] <rickspencer3> o/
[16:02] <pitti> cjwatson, doko: I suppose uploads to precise won't work until we release oneriic?
[16:02] <cjwatson> pitti: pretty sure they won't
[16:02] <skaet> pitti, that's my belief as well.
[16:02] <doko> pitti, no, use oneiric ppa's to prepare binaries
[16:03] <pitti> doko: is there a common one for ~ubuntu-core-dev?
[16:03] <pitti> which we usually use?
[16:03] <doko> no
[16:04] <doko> debhelper build time is not the problem
[16:06] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview - is open for any bugs you think worth release noting at this point.
[16:06] <rickspencer3> skaet, can I say something at this point in the meeting?
[16:06] <pitti> skaet: o/
[16:07] <skaet> rickspencer3, go.
[16:07] <rickspencer3> I just wanted to say ..
[16:07] <rickspencer3> I know everyone is working really hard
[16:07] <pitti> OMG we're fired
[16:07] <rickspencer3> and Oneiric is coming in hot hot hot
[16:07] <rickspencer3> but ...
[16:07] <rickspencer3> lol
[16:07] <rickspencer3> Oneiric is simply the best client OS I have ever used on both of my computers
[16:08] <rickspencer3> and, the server and juju make we want to start doing web programming again!
[16:08] <doko> skaet, do you plan to add some developer technical info to this page?
[16:08] <rickspencer3> I just wanted to say that, because I know that when the Ubuntu community is heads down cranking out releases ...
[16:08] <rickspencer3> people get close to the problems, and sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees
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[16:09] <rickspencer3> thanks skaet
[16:09] <skaet> thanks rickspencer3   good to remind us.   :)
[16:10] <skaet> doko,  if you've got some suggestions, feel free to add.   I'll be doing more passes today, and over the weekend.
[16:10] <skaet> pitti,  go
[16:10] <pitti> http://china-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/daily-live/20111001/ is still oversized
[16:10] <pitti> forgot to mention in my slot
[16:10] <pitti> what remains to be done is to build them from main only
[16:10] <ogra_> rickspencer3, with precise you will  even be able to do your web programming for juju on arm and save the environment !
[16:10] <pitti> that'll downsize them by 21 MB and get them in shape
[16:10] <rickspencer3> thanks ogra_ ;)
[16:10] <pitti> need to coordinate with cjwatson, it just somewhat dropped in my priority list last week, sorry
[16:11] <skaet> pitti, thanks for bringing up now.  :)
[16:11] <pitti> skaet: just in case someone asks or brings it up
[16:11] <skaet> and with that,  this will be the last weekly meeting until after UDS-P.
[16:12] <skaet> Thanks again every one for the hard work on getting oneiric ready for release!
[16:12] <pitti> ah, was about to ask -- so no meeting next Friday, good
[16:12] <pitti> o/
[16:12] <skaet> yup.
[16:12] <skaet> pitti, go
[16:12] <pitti> when should we accept oneiric-proposed uploads?
[16:12] <pitti> on Monday?
[16:13] <pitti> (there's two in the queue already)
[16:13] <cjwatson> are we accepting apport and kerneloops today?
[16:13] <pitti> so far my standing order for that was to accept them on Sunday and then trigger all image builds
[16:13] <pitti> so that we have everything ready on Monday morning
[16:13] <cjwatson> ah, ok - should I upload a base-files for the same batch then?
[16:14] <pitti> so that we still have apport for testing today's images
[16:14] <pitti> cjwatson: ah, makes sense
[16:14] <skaet> yes, given some of the things landing,  seems reasonable.
[16:15] <pitti> I think accepting SRUs on Monday for testing should work as well
[16:15] <skaet> re: oneiric-proposed,  lets touch base on Monday.
[16:15] <pitti> if we really need a final upload, we'd just bump teh version and reupload to -proposed
[16:15] <pitti> but we need to give them some testing for 0-day SRUs
[16:15] <pitti> I'm particularly thinking on firefox there
[16:15]  * skaet nods
[16:16] <Daviey> cjwatson: ogasawara confirmed she was happy for kerneloops to be accepted a while ago.
[16:16] <pitti> bug 869311
[16:16] <pitti> ... which I forgot to mention, argh
[16:17] <pitti> (added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus now)
[16:18] <Daviey> cjwatson: bug 759545 still has a 11.10 target.. do you want to update that?
[16:19] <cjwatson> Daviey: yes, will bump to precise
[16:19] <skaet> any more comments/questions,  feel free to raise in #ubuntu-meeting
[16:19] <skaet> Thanks mlegris, jibel, ogasawara, cjwatson, Daviey, ogra_, fabo, pitti, dbarth_, stgraber, charlie-tca, gilir, tumbleweed, Laney, doko, rickspencer3!
[16:19] <skaet> #endmeeting
[16:19] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Oct  7 16:19:51 2011 UTC.
[16:19] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-07-15.00.moin.txt
[16:19] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu wants to say a *big* thank you to everyone for their efforts getting Oneiric out.
[16:20] <ogra_> thanks skaet !
[16:20] <skaet> +1
[16:20] <Daviey> charlie-tca: we aren't there yet :)
[16:20] <Laney> is this the last release meeting of the cycle?
[16:20] <skaet> Laney,  yup.
[16:20] <Daviey> (Unless we are delayed, right? :))
[16:20] <stgraber> thanks!
[16:20] <jibel> Thanks skaet !
[16:21] <pitti> thanks everyone
[16:21] <Laney> well then, it's been fun!
[16:21] <Daviey> it's been emotional.
[16:21] <rickspencer3> lol
[16:21] <skaet> Laney,  fun will resume after UDS-P.   ;)
[16:21] <Laney> just got... something in my eye...
[16:21] <charlie-tca> With the help Xubuntu got to get to this point, the Thanks are earned already!
[16:22] <skaet> Completely agree charlie-tca!   Been some awesome features landing, and very impressive bug fixing over the last couple of weeks.
[16:22] <pitti> charlie-tca: is bug 840094 still an RC issue?
[16:23] <charlie-tca> It is still an issue, but I will release note. It only affects installs from the cd menu
[16:23] <pitti> ack
[16:23] <charlie-tca> pitti: I think we can push it to precise
[16:26] <micahg> skaet: sorry, we forgot to have someone cover for jdstrand on his day off
[16:26] <micahg> skaet: want an update?
[16:27] <skaet> micahg,  sure - mostly interested in if there's anything in the security pending bucket that could cause issues.
[16:28] <micahg> skaet: not that I'm aware of, we deferred 2 bugs to SRU, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[16:28]  * skaet figures no news, is good news,  on this front.  :)
[16:29] <skaet> thanks micahg.   I'll take a pass through the status and ask questions directly if I spot anything.
[16:29] <micahg> skaet: the only thing I can think of is if I find a fix for chromium arm, but I guess at this point, we can defer to 0-day SRU for that as well since it's not required on any images
[16:35] <skaet> micahg, yes,  0-day SRU is the preference at this point.