[05:40] <shayonj> will the motu be reviewing packages for oneiric ?
[05:45] <ScottK> Some will, but there are always a lot more packages wanting review than there are reviewers.
[05:45] <ScottK> You might consider trying to get your package into Debian (it would be synced into Ubuntu from there)
[05:50] <shayonj> ScottK, okay. thanks :)
[06:16] <micahg> shayonj: any new package would go into precise at this point, not oneiric
[06:20] <shayonj> micahg, alrighty :)
[06:20]  * ajmitch is still trying to get used to the new name
[06:21] <micahg> ajmitch: what precisely is the issue you're having?
[06:21]  * micahg ducks
[06:21] <ajmitch>  /kick
[06:21] <shayonj> just wondering, is precise the actual tag. as in is precise the tag that will be replacing oneiric/lucid/natty/etc etc
[06:21] <shayonj> :p
[06:21] <micahg> shayonj: yep, it's the codename
[06:21] <shayonj> codename, thats the word. thanks micahg :)
[06:22] <micahg> I think suite name is the appropriate word for that entry in the changelog
[06:22] <micahg> I didn't want to be imprecise
[06:22] <shayonj> hah ok
[06:23] <shayonj> just a note- apparently there is no precise for pbuilder
[06:23] <ajmitch> micahg: you're going to be on these puns for weeks, aren't you?
[06:23] <micahg> shayonj: update oneiric
[06:23] <micahg> ajmitch: precisely :P
[06:23] <shayonj> micahg, didnt get that ? update oneiric to precise in changelog or pbuilder ?
[06:24] <micahg> shayonj: sorry, you can't build for precise yet, the archive doesn't exist
[06:24] <geser> shayonj: a precise pbuilder becomes useful once the precise archive is ready (which will be around 2 weeks after oneiric release)
[06:25] <shayonj> micahg, i see. so just making the change in the changelog be a good idea ?
[06:25] <micahg> shayonj: not yet
[06:25] <shayonj> micahg, i see
[06:25] <micahg> although pbuilder should recognize it as a suite at this point I think
[06:25] <shayonj> geser, okay. thanks for the info. so will precise be still accepting packages ?
[06:25] <shayonj> micahg, it just says nknown distribution «precise»
[06:26] <shayonj> u
[06:26] <shayonj> unknown *
[06:26] <micahg> hmm, do you have distro-info 0.2.2?
[06:26] <shayonj> no
[06:26] <geser> shayonj: most of the tools don't know the new name yet
[06:26] <shayonj> just a sec, let me get it
[06:27] <shayonj> geser, thought so :)
[06:27] <micahg> geser: well, whatever was patched to use distro-info would know about it
[06:27]  * micahg isn't sure it pbuilder fits the bill
[06:27] <shayonj> micahg, what exact is distro-info 0.2.2
[06:28] <micahg> shayonj: a package that contains the codenames and when they're active in a single place
[06:28] <shayonj> micahg, okay so how will it be helpful ? Sorry to be to buggy :p
[06:28] <geser> micahg: IIRC pbuilder doesn't care about it as long as debootstrap know how to bootstrap it
[06:28] <micahg> geser: I think that was taken care of already as well
[06:29] <geser> yep
[06:30] <shayonj> okay, so how exactly can/do you build for precise ?
[06:31] <ajmitch> you use an oneiric pbuilder for now - precise doesn't exist yet, but will be based on oneiric
[06:32] <shayonj> ajmitch, yeah i did do that and i have the oneiric build with me and on revu..
[06:32] <shayonj> but thats not the same as submitting for precise, right ?
[06:32] <ajmitch> you still need to change debian/changelog to target precise
[06:33] <shayonj> i see
[06:33] <ajmitch> what's in debian/changelog doesn't affect what pbuilder tarball/config you use to build it with
[06:33] <shayonj> okay !
[06:34] <shayonj> ajmitch, a question. if i upload it to revu it will overwrite my existing upload of oneiric , right ?
[06:34] <ajmitch> yes
[06:35] <ajmitch> if revu complains about not supporting precise, ignore the warnings & they'll be fixed
[06:35] <shayonj> sounds good thanks
[06:37] <shayonj> thanks so much. you guys have a been a great help as a community. appreciate that. good night/morning for now
[06:37] <ajmitch> night
[06:37]  * ajmitch should probably upgrade to oneiric tonight to see what all the fuss is about
[06:39] <ajmitch> finally upgraded the laptop to natty, rebooting it now :)
[06:39] <dholbach> good morning
[06:39] <ajmitch> morning dholbach
[06:40] <geser> good morning dholbach
[06:40] <dholbach> hi ajmitch, hi geser
[06:42] <ajmitch> dholbach: and how are you today? :)
[06:42] <dholbach> I'm trying to wake up :)
[06:42] <dholbach> how about you?
[06:42] <ajmitch> just considering dinner & upgrading to oneiric
[06:43] <dholbach> nice :)
[06:44]  * ajmitch upgraded to natty today on the laptop, was a bit rough in places
[06:45] <geser> ajmitch: file bugs :)
[06:45] <ajmitch> mostly my own fault for having packages installed from PPAs, so bugs aren't really worth it in those cases
[06:52] <ScottK> ajmitch: To natty or from natty?
[06:53] <ajmitch> ScottK: to natty, I upgraded to maverick a few weeks ago
[06:53] <ScottK> I see.
[06:53] <ajmitch> my laptop had been on lucid for quite awhile
[06:54] <ScottK> Don't try to use LibreOffice if you've got your hard drive encrypted.
[06:54] <ScottK> There's a really fun combination that makes LO virtually unusable.
[06:54] <ajmitch> poor performance, or does it cause everything to blow up?
[06:54] <ScottK> Both.
[06:54] <ajmitch> mine's not encrypted or using LVM or anything special
[06:54] <ScottK> Should be fine then.
[06:55] <ScottK> Fixed in oneiric,  BTW (was a kernel bug)
[06:55] <ajmitch> fun
[06:55] <ajmitch> I've been running natty on my desktop for quite awhile, it's not like I'm completely out of touch :)
[06:58] <ajmitch> maybe I can upgrade my desktop's hardware for the next LTS, iirc it was installed with a dapper daily ISO
[07:22] <ajmitch> ScottK: what happened with the proposal of opening -backports at feature freeze? was that discussed with the TB?
[10:04] <verwilst> Ng, ping
[10:10] <Ng> verwilst: hi
[10:11] <verwilst> Ng, you have 1 minute in private? :)
[10:11] <Ng> sure
[10:48] <verwilst> Ng, on a side-note, your email made me discover terminator
[10:49] <verwilst> never looked back to gnome-terminal :)
[10:49] <Ng> heh
[10:49] <Zhenech> o/ Ng
[10:50] <Ng> hey Zhenech :)
[18:34] <blueyed> Is there another way than apt-build to build (some) packages natively, i.e. using -mtune=native?
[18:34] <blueyed> I have found apt-src, too.
[18:36]  * blueyed would really like to have an optimized build of firefox, especially while using i386 on a 64bit system (I will reinstall with Oneiric getting (more) stable).
[18:36] <jtaylor> using dpkg-buildflags might do it for a bunch of packages
[18:36] <jtaylor> see the manpage for its configurationfile
[19:04] <ScottK> ajmitch: What happened is I still didn't get time to write it down and make a coherent proposal to the TB.  Still on my TODO.
[19:22] <blueyed> jtaylor: dpkg-buildflags would still require manual building (will pbuilder pick it up?), and apt-build/apt-src might be easier to handle upgrades.