[05:40] will the motu be reviewing packages for oneiric ? [05:45] Some will, but there are always a lot more packages wanting review than there are reviewers. [05:45] You might consider trying to get your package into Debian (it would be synced into Ubuntu from there) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [05:50] ScottK, okay. thanks :) [06:16] shayonj: any new package would go into precise at this point, not oneiric [06:20] micahg, alrighty :) [06:20] * ajmitch is still trying to get used to the new name [06:21] ajmitch: what precisely is the issue you're having? [06:21] * micahg ducks [06:21] /kick [06:21] just wondering, is precise the actual tag. as in is precise the tag that will be replacing oneiric/lucid/natty/etc etc [06:21] :p [06:21] shayonj: yep, it's the codename [06:21] codename, thats the word. thanks micahg :) [06:22] I think suite name is the appropriate word for that entry in the changelog [06:22] I didn't want to be imprecise [06:22] hah ok [06:23] just a note- apparently there is no precise for pbuilder [06:23] micahg: you're going to be on these puns for weeks, aren't you? [06:23] shayonj: update oneiric [06:23] ajmitch: precisely :P [06:23] micahg, didnt get that ? update oneiric to precise in changelog or pbuilder ? [06:24] shayonj: sorry, you can't build for precise yet, the archive doesn't exist [06:24] shayonj: a precise pbuilder becomes useful once the precise archive is ready (which will be around 2 weeks after oneiric release) [06:25] micahg, i see. so just making the change in the changelog be a good idea ? [06:25] shayonj: not yet [06:25] micahg, i see [06:25] although pbuilder should recognize it as a suite at this point I think [06:25] geser, okay. thanks for the info. so will precise be still accepting packages ? [06:25] micahg, it just says nknown distribution «precise» [06:26] u [06:26] unknown * [06:26] hmm, do you have distro-info 0.2.2? [06:26] no [06:26] shayonj: most of the tools don't know the new name yet [06:26] just a sec, let me get it [06:27] geser, thought so :) [06:27] geser: well, whatever was patched to use distro-info would know about it [06:27] * micahg isn't sure it pbuilder fits the bill [06:27] micahg, what exact is distro-info 0.2.2 [06:28] shayonj: a package that contains the codenames and when they're active in a single place [06:28] micahg, okay so how will it be helpful ? Sorry to be to buggy :p [06:28] micahg: IIRC pbuilder doesn't care about it as long as debootstrap know how to bootstrap it [06:28] geser: I think that was taken care of already as well [06:29] yep [06:30] okay, so how exactly can/do you build for precise ? [06:31] you use an oneiric pbuilder for now - precise doesn't exist yet, but will be based on oneiric [06:32] ajmitch, yeah i did do that and i have the oneiric build with me and on revu.. [06:32] but thats not the same as submitting for precise, right ? [06:32] you still need to change debian/changelog to target precise [06:33] i see [06:33] what's in debian/changelog doesn't affect what pbuilder tarball/config you use to build it with [06:33] okay ! [06:34] ajmitch, a question. if i upload it to revu it will overwrite my existing upload of oneiric , right ? [06:34] yes [06:35] if revu complains about not supporting precise, ignore the warnings & they'll be fixed [06:35] sounds good thanks [06:37] thanks so much. you guys have a been a great help as a community. appreciate that. good night/morning for now [06:37] night [06:37] * ajmitch should probably upgrade to oneiric tonight to see what all the fuss is about [06:39] finally upgraded the laptop to natty, rebooting it now :) [06:39] good morning [06:39] morning dholbach [06:40] good morning dholbach [06:40] hi ajmitch, hi geser [06:42] dholbach: and how are you today? :) [06:42] I'm trying to wake up :) [06:42] how about you? [06:42] just considering dinner & upgrading to oneiric [06:43] nice :) === jibel_ is now known as jibel [06:44] * ajmitch upgraded to natty today on the laptop, was a bit rough in places [06:45] ajmitch: file bugs :) [06:45] mostly my own fault for having packages installed from PPAs, so bugs aren't really worth it in those cases [06:52] ajmitch: To natty or from natty? [06:53] ScottK: to natty, I upgraded to maverick a few weeks ago [06:53] I see. [06:53] my laptop had been on lucid for quite awhile [06:54] Don't try to use LibreOffice if you've got your hard drive encrypted. [06:54] There's a really fun combination that makes LO virtually unusable. [06:54] poor performance, or does it cause everything to blow up? [06:54] Both. [06:54] mine's not encrypted or using LVM or anything special [06:54] Should be fine then. [06:55] Fixed in oneiric, BTW (was a kernel bug) [06:55] fun [06:55] I've been running natty on my desktop for quite awhile, it's not like I'm completely out of touch :) [06:58] maybe I can upgrade my desktop's hardware for the next LTS, iirc it was installed with a dapper daily ISO === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [07:22] ScottK: what happened with the proposal of opening -backports at feature freeze? was that discussed with the TB? === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === Guest79607 is now known as jussi01 [10:04] Ng, ping [10:10] verwilst: hi [10:11] Ng, you have 1 minute in private? :) [10:11] sure [10:48] Ng, on a side-note, your email made me discover terminator [10:49] never looked back to gnome-terminal :) [10:49] heh [10:49] o/ Ng [10:50] hey Zhenech :) === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === medberry is now known as med_out === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === med_out is now known as medberry === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:34] Is there another way than apt-build to build (some) packages natively, i.e. using -mtune=native? [18:34] I have found apt-src, too. [18:36] * blueyed would really like to have an optimized build of firefox, especially while using i386 on a 64bit system (I will reinstall with Oneiric getting (more) stable). [18:36] using dpkg-buildflags might do it for a bunch of packages [18:36] see the manpage for its configurationfile === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [19:04] ajmitch: What happened is I still didn't get time to write it down and make a coherent proposal to the TB. Still on my TODO. [19:22] jtaylor: dpkg-buildflags would still require manual building (will pbuilder pick it up?), and apt-build/apt-src might be easier to handle upgrades. === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === kiall_ is now known as Kiall