| bobjabba | Newbie question: Pwede ba for Android app development ang Code::Blocks? | 04:39 |
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| Jucato | I don't think so. at least not for the Java parts. ung NDK (native development kit) baka pwede | 04:42 |
| bobjabba | ok, thanks Jucato | 04:52 |
| Terminus | it's an editor/has an editor so i imagine it should work fine. =) | 04:53 |
| Jucato | if that's all you need, sure | 04:54 |
| Jucato | but, in this case, even notepad might do | 04:54 |
| Jucato | C++ IDE ang Code::Blocks eh. so not sure if syntax highlighting, folding, etc. will also work | 04:55 |
| Jucato | not to mention the XML stuff you need | 04:55 |
| bobjabba | maganda nga may syntax highlighting | 04:56 |
| bobjabba | but then I can stick with gedit | 04:56 |
| Jucato | for java, autocompletion might also be essential | 04:56 |
| Jucato | ayaw talaga ng Eclipse? :) | 04:57 |
| Jucato | I mean, if you want to use an IDE for it, might as well go with the one that's directly supported | 04:57 |
| bobjabba | OK lang sa akin to try eclipse but right now I'm looking for a lightweight IDE na hindi uubusin hdd space ng netbook ko lol | 04:59 |
| bobjabba | siguro nga my best bet would be to use Eclipse | 04:59 |
| Jucato | I don't think it will take up 500MB all in all :) | 05:00 |
| bobjabba | 250+MB :D | 05:01 |
| Jucato | < 500MB pa rin hehe | 05:01 |
| Terminus | i like eclipse the best if i need an IDE. =) | 05:01 |
| Jucato | I think that would include other stuff too like Java, Apache Ant, etc. etc. you'll need them for Android apps anyway | 05:02 |
| Terminus | *sigh* i still haven't learned how to use ant. | 05:02 |
| bobjabba | yeah, good point | 05:02 |
| bobjabba | another newbie question: what is Ant? :D | 05:02 |
| Terminus | ant is the build system for java, like make. | 05:03 |
| Jucato | don't worry. I don't think you'll come across ant directly while you're beginning developing android apps. | 05:04 |
| Jucato | <-- beginner din | 05:04 |
| Jucato | :D | 05:04 |
| Terminus | <-- zero knowledge | 05:04 |
| Terminus | i don't even root my phone. haha | 05:05 |
| Jucato | at least alam mo ant | 05:05 |
| Jucato | hahaha | 05:05 |
| Jucato | me neither. hindi kasi sakin | 05:05 |
| Jucato | legally kay mama :) | 05:05 |
| Jucato | I can't install a ROM on it either | 05:05 |
| Jucato | especially since there's no ROM to install | 05:05 |
| Terminus | i plan to root my phone only when HTC stops providing updates for it. =) | 05:05 |
| bobjabba | ah thanks Jucato | 05:06 |
| Jucato | Terminus: you mean, like, tomorrow? :) | 05:06 |
| Jucato | Galaxy Tab. no ROMs :) | 05:06 |
| Jucato | only one update ever: froyo to gingerbread | 05:06 |
| Terminus | Jucato: uh... i think they're still providing updates to my phone. =) | 05:07 |
| bobjabba | Terminus: baka rooted na yan lol jk | 05:07 |
| Jucato | OTA ba? | 05:07 |
| Terminus | yep. OTA. | 05:07 |
| Terminus | you mean HTC is killing OTA? | 05:07 |
| Jucato | hindi. rare lang sakin marining na may nag uupdate OTA na major manufacturer hahah | 05:08 |
| Jucato | o baka Samsung lang hindi ... for the Tab | 05:08 |
| Jucato | >.< | 05:08 |
| Terminus | haha | 05:08 |
| Terminus | one reason why i chose HTC was because they had the best track record for OTA updates out of all the manufacturers. still slow though. =/ | 05:09 |
| Jucato | HTC didn't have a tablet back then, and not one that was easily affordable locally :P | 05:09 |
| Terminus | besides, it still works. it's not like i use my phone for anything major. | 05:09 |
| Jucato | if you wanted an Android tablet last year, your only bet was Galaxy Tab with SMART :D | 05:10 |
| Terminus | i see... i don't have any plans to get a tablet. =) | 05:10 |
| Jucato | may phone na kasi eh. tablet naman. hahah! | 05:10 |
| Terminus | hehe | 05:10 |
| bobjabba | lol | 05:10 |
| Terminus | i'm fine with phone + laptop. | 05:10 |
| Jucato | ah un lang. hindi kasi ako masyadong fan ng laptops | 05:11 |
| Jucato | or rather, my experience with laptops have been dismal :D | 05:11 |
| bobjabba | like how, Jucato ? | 05:11 |
| Terminus | the macbook is the only laptop i don't have any complaints about so far. | 05:11 |
| Terminus | what i'm really waiting for is ivy bridge. i'm itching to upgrade my PC. =D | 05:12 |
| Jucato | bobjabba: extremely hot, poor battery life | 05:12 |
| Jucato | then again, those weren't high-end or top of the line models | 05:12 |
| Jucato | still, it always amazes me that some developers/programmers use laptops sometimes as their primary developing machine | 05:13 |
| bobjabba | Jucato: netbooks ba yun? | 05:13 |
| Terminus | Jucato: that's why i don't consider laptops less than 35k, unless i'm fine with it being disposable after 1 year. | 05:13 |
| Jucato | nope. 14" :D | 05:13 |
| bobjabba | brb guys, kain lang. | 05:13 |
| Terminus | even then, my parents seem to be happy with their neo netbooks. hehe | 05:14 |
| Jucato | Terminus: ung una kasi, ate ko bumili. Pentium 4 pa nga ata eh. this current one, sa card ni mama. "promo" ng Citibank ata | 05:14 |
| Jucato | kaya pala nag promo, outdated units na from Dell | 05:14 |
| Terminus | Jucato: ouch. yeah, the p4 laptops were terrible. | 05:14 |
| Jucato | heck, 20k+ netbooks today have better performance (and lower footprints) than this 14" Dell :) | 05:14 |
| bobjabba | lol Jucato promo | 05:14 |
| Terminus | outdated is fine, as long as it's quality hardware. =) | 05:14 |
| Jucato | hm well | 05:15 |
| Jucato | 2-3 hrs battery life :) | 05:15 |
| Terminus | i'm guessing that's not quality hardware though. >_< | 05:15 |
| Jucato | that's brand new | 05:15 |
| Terminus | eh, not bad. | 05:15 |
| Jucato | not when it goes below to 50% on boot :D | 05:15 |
| Jucato | or something like that | 05:15 |
| Terminus | oh... that's bad. | 05:15 |
| Jucato | at least un nasa battery indicator | 05:15 |
| Terminus | this work laptop i'm on right now gives me 1.5 hours battery life. | 05:15 |
| bobjabba | oh wow that IS bad | 05:16 |
| Jucato | at syempre yang 2-3 hours na yan, ay pag on standby lang | 05:16 |
| bobjabba | brb na talaga lol | 05:16 |
| Jucato | try programming/compiling while on battery. hanap ka agad outlet | 05:16 |
| Jucato | hahah | 05:16 |
| Jucato | sige kain ka na | 05:16 |
| Terminus | i'm impressed by the power management of os x though. my 6 hour battery life drops to 2.5 hours when i reboot to windows. haha | 05:16 |
| Jucato | Terminus: 1.5 hours? meron pa bang laptop na ganun? | 05:16 |
| Terminus | Jucato: eh, laki naman siguro yung na compile mo. hehe | 05:16 |
| Jucato | netbooks have I think sometimes 5-7 hours | 05:17 |
| Terminus | Jucato: stock battery, from 2 years ago. | 05:17 |
| Jucato | magaang pa | 05:17 |
| Jucato | ah well 2 years na rin to I think. hulugan sa credit card | 05:17 |
| Terminus | i don't really mind this one because it's quite powerful. trade off for battery life. besides, linux is not known for good power management. =P | 05:17 |
| Jucato | well, desktop linux I guess | 05:17 |
| Jucato | kasi gamit sa android, ok naman di ba? :D | 05:18 |
| Terminus | beats me. i need desktop linux. =P | 05:18 |
| Jucato | hahaha | 05:18 |
| Terminus | i find battery performance on my phone average at best. i miss the battery life of my old xda2. =D | 05:18 |
| Jucato | hell, I miss the battery life of Symbian! :D | 05:18 |
| Terminus | i'm sick of apps that don't integrate well when i use just a WM so i'm sticking with gnome. | 05:19 |
| Terminus | i still have my nokia candybar and i get 5 days battery life out of it! | 05:19 |
| Terminus | i never liked symbian. no matter how well the hardware improved, symbian just felt slow. XD | 05:20 |
| Jucato | but the battery life makes sure that you'll eventually get there :) | 05:20 |
| Jucato | mahirap kung mabagal na nga mabukas ung app, low batt pa pagkabukas :D | 05:21 |
| Terminus | haha. good point. symbian did have good power management. i heard it was a pain to develop for it precisely because of all the stuff they had to do to optimize performance on the hardware available. | 05:23 |
| Jucato | it was a pain to develop for because it was a pain to develop for | 05:23 |
| Jucato | hahah | 05:24 |
| Jucato | better ask loell. he's the symbian dude :D | 05:24 |
| Terminus | haha | 05:24 |
| Jucato | it's painful C++ daw | 05:24 |
| Jucato | from what I've heard | 05:24 |
| Terminus | i spend too much time looking at all kinds of stuff, i can never settle on just one particular aspect of IT. XD | 05:24 |
| Jucato | kaya daming huminga ng malalim when Qt was ported :D | 05:25 |
| Terminus | Qt ftw! \o/ | 05:25 |
| Jucato | hah I know the feeling :D | 05:25 |
| Terminus | day job means i stare at pretty datacenter hardware and try to get the funds for it. sometimes i gotta code as well. then reddit and steam get in the way. lol | 05:26 |
| Terminus | at least i rarely go to 4chan. | 05:26 |
| Jucato | steam? | 05:26 |
| Jucato | you look at sales all day? :) | 05:26 |
| Terminus | no, but i have a backlog of 100 games. XD | 05:27 |
| Jucato | hahaha | 05:27 |
| Jucato | I actually just installed the steam client this morning | 05:27 |
| Jucato | it crashes | 05:27 |
| Terminus | awww... i've only had problems with it on os x. it's been a year and they still haven't fixed the update issues. sheesh... | 05:28 |
| Jucato | hehe pero ok naman sa side mo? | 05:28 |
| Jucato | it's no biggie though. all the games there except Civ5 I can download directly (humble Indie bundles) | 05:28 |
| Terminus | yep. it works fine. i'm a bit wary about buying everything on steam though. it's just the sales that are too tempting! | 05:29 |
| Terminus | i have one game on origin. dragon age. i got the witcher direct from gog.com. =) | 05:29 |
| Terminus | so far i've gotten the 2k games, thq, and valve complete packages plus misc games when they drop below $5. | 05:31 |
| Jucato | yes!! tempting sales | 05:33 |
| Jucato | kainis hindi ako umabot sa sale ng Portal 2 kahapon | 05:33 |
| Jucato | 660 pesos na lang. with free DLC | 05:33 |
| Terminus | awww... | 05:33 |
| Jucato | kainis smart eh | 05:33 |
| Jucato | walang SMART wireless center sa Trinoma. down naman ung machine nila sa Festival | 05:34 |
| Terminus | grrr... i got rid of portal 2 to make way for DX:HR. forgot about the DLC. | 05:34 |
| Jucato | <-- smart money gamit | 05:34 |
| Terminus | i only started buying stuff online when my payroll account came with a credit card. XD | 05:34 |
| Jucato | hahah super dali kasi makakuha ng Smart Money | 05:35 |
| Jucato | at parang debit card pa | 05:35 |
| Jucato | so sure akong controlled ko | 05:35 |
| Terminus | yeah, sometimes it's a PITA when you can't get a credit card because of lack of credit card history. | 05:36 |
| Terminus | when i first got a card, the bank tried to push a secured card at me. i told them i want a regular card, take it or leave it. they gave me one. XD | 05:37 |
| Jucato | hahaah | 05:41 |
| Terminus | grrr... why the heck am i getting a tftp transport error when moving files from the switch to the laptop?! | 05:43 |
| Jucato | "TFTP Traffic Management brought to you by MMDA" | 05:44 |
| Terminus | hahaha | 05:45 |
| Terminus | oh great. winbind decided that it doesn't know my gids. again. | 05:45 |
| Jucato | O.o | 05:47 |
| bobjabba | Jucato: yung games discussion niyo are those games for Linux? I didn't know na pwede Steam sa Linux...? Or Windoze ang usapan niyo? | 06:14 |
| bobjabba | wb term | 06:14 |
| bobjabba | terminus* | 06:14 |
| Jucato | the steam client can run on Wine. some games can run decently on wine too. pero ung mga nabanggit namin specifically, windows lang | 06:14 |
| Terminus | hello bobjabba =) | 06:14 |
| Jucato | but the Humble Indie Bundle I referred to, cross platform | 06:14 |
| Jucato | bobjabba: Term[Tab] para walang typo :) | 06:15 |
| Terminus | have to clear my winbind cache every 1 to 2 weeks. >_< | 06:15 |
| bobjabba | Jucato: Yeah, I did term[Tab] but masyado ako mabilis yata naks | 06:15 |
| Jucato | hahah :) | 06:15 |
| bobjabba | naka shell acct ako ngayon eh | 06:15 |
| Jucato | ah ssh lag? | 06:15 |
| bobjabba | yeah | 06:16 |
| bobjabba | high-speed kasi ang SmartBroken | 06:16 |
| Terminus | i got the last humble bundle but i'm not in the mood to get frozen synapse right now. | 06:16 |
| Terminus | hehe. i refuse to get anything but a wired connection for a fixed installation. | 06:16 |
| bobjabba | I've read about Humble Bundle via Full Circle... | 06:17 |
| Jucato | Terminus: frozen synapse + frozen bundle | 06:17 |
| Jucato | tapos may dinagdag pa sila the other day | 06:17 |
| Jucato | frozenbyte pala | 06:17 |
| bobjabba | I'm using a canopy naman but right now I' m on my netbook so wifi ng router ko ang gamit ko. mabagal parin lol | 06:17 |
| Jucato | frozen synapse + frozenbyte bundle + (just yesterday) SpaceChem | 06:18 |
| Terminus | Jucato: yeah, but i haven't played much of the last bundle yet. | 06:18 |
| Jucato | I haven't played anything at all! | 06:18 |
| Jucato | oh except crayon physics :D | 06:18 |
| Terminus | i sort of played with steel storm and hammerfight but that was about it. | 06:20 |
| Jucato | actually ang kulang ko lang ay ung HIB1 | 06:20 |
| Jucato | I got HIB2 through a promo in HIB3 :D | 06:20 |
| Terminus | oh, now i remember. i got the bundle because of 'and yet it moves' | 06:21 |
| Terminus | yeah, did the same thing. i got HIB2 from HIB3. =) | 06:21 |
| Terminus | i got braid and machinarium before they went into bundles. XD | 06:22 |
| Terminus | oh, and world of goo too. | 06:22 |
| bobjabba | ayoko magbayad... LOL jk, ayoko muna | 06:22 |
| Terminus | out of all the indie games out there, i think i still like world of goo best. | 06:22 |
| Jucato | me too | 06:23 |
| Jucato | until I got stuck -_- | 06:23 |
| Terminus | bobjabba: haha. i had the same attitude before till i got a job. now that i can buy games, i don't have the time for them. >_< | 06:24 |
| Terminus | games rarely hold my attention till the end. world of goo was successful. portal 1 and 2 as well. | 06:24 |
| Terminus | and mass effect 1 and 2. ugh... i like bioware but i hate that they're under EA. buying games from EA somehow leaves a bad taste in my mouth. | 06:25 |
| Jucato | hearing "EA" always makes me think of "Sports" and "Harry Potter" :) | 06:27 |
| Terminus | i dunno. diversity is good. i don't want steam to be the only game available in town. at the same time, the origin store in .ph is more expensive than the one in .us. -_- | 06:31 |
| Jucato | I like steam for the sales/promos :) | 06:33 |
| Jucato | gog if the title's there | 06:33 |
| Terminus | yeah... if i don't mind my credit card, i can end up spending quite a lot on gog. | 06:34 |
| Jucato | otherwise I actually prefer to buy directly from the developer/studio if they offer it. or actually a boxed copy :) | 06:34 |
| * Jucato likes seeing titles on his shelves | 06:34 | |
| Terminus | same here. as long as it's as good a deal as those i can find through other distributors. | 06:34 |
| Jucato | sakin 2 lang disadvantage ng electronic/online copy (like Steam): ang hirap magdownload ng malaki at walang "bragging rights" na makikita sa mga shelves ko :D | 06:35 |
| Terminus | i don't like boxed copies nowadays. all they do is give you a case with a leaflet inside it. | 06:35 |
| Jucato | (same with ebooks btw) | 06:35 |
| Jucato | haha un lang | 06:35 |
| Jucato | gone are the days ... | 06:35 |
| Terminus | i don't have much storage space so boxes are more difficult for me now. =) | 06:36 |
| Jucato | hahah | 06:36 |
| Jucato | kung sabagay. ako nga rin :D | 06:36 |
| Jucato | but I'd go out and buy some plastic bookshelf | 06:37 |
| Jucato | hahaha | 06:37 |
| Terminus | only reason for me to buy from data blitz now is if i can't wait for a download. buying a boxed copy inevitably seems to be more expensive than buying online. =| | 06:37 |
| Antrax2000 | greetings amigos! | 08:49 |
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