[01:07] <JayWalker_> Anyone here versed in apache and rewrite rules? I only ask here because there's no apache IRC afaik
[01:18] <panfist> i'm not sure if this is an ubuntu question or if it's more application-specific,
[01:18] <panfist> i was wondering what's a good strategy to maintain a shared environment between hosts, for example when you have a testing and staging server, and several workstations supporting those servers
[01:18] <panfist> the testing and staging server are running some version of python for example and set of modules,
[01:18] <panfist> i'm guessing you can configure those on the servers and mount them read only on the workstations or something like that,
[01:24] <twb> JayWalker_: #httpd
[01:24] <JayWalker_> thanks
[01:48] <panfist> is it possible to set up something like a package server, where if you mark and install a package on the main machine, that package is pushed to other machines?
[02:10] <twb> panfist: puppet
[02:10] <twb> panfist: or dpkg --get-selections | ssh otherhost dpkg --set-selections, but really you want puppet
[04:02] <Takyoji> Sssoooooo, would it be stupid to force the unmounting of a harddrive that has potentially failed (as there's IO errors when accessing it), even though when you try unmounting it says 'device is busy'? :P
[04:08] <twb> Takyoji: no, but it's unlikely to work
[04:08] <twb> Takyoji: first you should kill off any procs not in D that are trying to access it
[04:09] <Takyoji> any way to list such?
[04:09] <twb> lsof
[04:10] <Takyoji> lsof | grep (name of the mount point)
[04:10] <Takyoji> yes?
[04:10] <Zanzacar> Hi, I have recently started up a media server and looking for ways to reduce my overall power bill I thought I might install powernap. That being said I have been trying to edit the config file to not fall asleep while apache is reading or writing to the hard drive. Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this?
[04:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> servers are in general always on.  what makes you think that it is taking up the most of your power bill?  there's definitely other items that eat more power than a server ;P
[04:18] <Zanzacar> Thats probably very true, but I only use the server at home for specific things like streaming videos to my TV.
[04:18] <Zanzacar> No reason to power something that isnt going tobe used.
[04:18] <TheEvilPhoenix> then why run a server at all :P
[04:19] <Zanzacar> well isnt going to be used all the time haha.
[04:19] <Zanzacar> no reason to have a light on in a room your not going to be in.
[04:19] <TheEvilPhoenix> (btw, afaik, there's no way to differentiate between read/write processes and idle state)
[04:20] <Zanzacar> Powernap has monitors for IO,TCP,Process,Loads etc.
[04:21] <Zanzacar> I read the man page, changed the debug settings to output more information, read the config files and I am kind of at a losss.
[05:43] <Zanzacar> Hi everyone I was looking for some help on setting up SSH on a server. I have it all setup where I can login through SSH through the same local network but I would like to do it from outside my home network. How can I do that? Additionally does that open up other computers on the network to security riskes?
[06:49] <thevinci> hey folks, I have set up a computer in my house as an ubuntu server. I've got vsftpd installed, and some files in folders, now I'm trying to figure out what to do to access them from my laptop
[06:49] <thevinci> I've tried Places<Connect to Server
[06:50] <thevinci> and then I enter the IP of my server, right?
[06:52] <thevinci> cuz that ain't working for me...
[07:13] <greppy> thevinci: what is running on your laptop?
[07:17] <thevinci> greppy: ubuntu 10.04 desktop
[07:25] <greppy> thevinci: did you select FTP with login?
[07:34] <thevinci> greppy: I've gotten past the ftp hurdle, I am now able to view and write files on my server from my laptop
[07:34] <thevinci> greppy: and as a kicker! I figured out that I can mount my usb harddrive in my ftp directory and access it from there!
[07:34] <greppy> heh
[07:35] <greppy> you could also use sftp ( included with openssh-server ) to do it securely
[07:35] <thevinci> greppy: any suggestions now on how to get connected to an xbox 360? heh... I'd like to stream videos to it
[07:35] <Gerowen> How is everyone?
[07:36] <Gerowen> thevinci: I used this for the longest time to stream videos to both my PS3 and 360 from my Linux box, http://www.ps3mediaserver.org
[07:38] <thevinci> Gerowen: is that a package I can install on my server?
[07:38] <Gerowen> I just downloaded the tarball from their website, it runs with Java
[07:38] <Gerowen> You can have it run as a service so you don't have to have a GUI
[07:38] <thevinci> that's what I'm looking for! :)
[07:39] <thevinci> I'm assuming all the info regarding such is found through the link? ;)
[07:39] <Gerowen> Yep, I haven't used it in a little over a year, but last time I did it worked pretty good.
[07:40] <thevinci> I'm assuming I want to look under the "install on a headless ubuntu server" section?
[07:40] <thevinci> I'm only guessing that headless refers to no gui?
[07:41] <Gerowen> yep
[07:41] <Gerowen> Well I'm going to head out, catch ya later everyone.
[07:42] <thevinci> thanks for the tips Gerowen! Big help!
[08:05] <thevinci> problem, I use command 'ftp localhost' from my server, login, and then I can connect from my laptop, BUT! I want to also do other things on the server while this is going on. only way I can see to do this, is to quit ftp localhost, which ends my connection from my laptop.
[08:06] <thevinci> never mind... I just added '&' after 'ftp localhost' and that worked!
[08:14] <lynxman> morning everyone o/
[09:09] <jamespage> morning all
[09:24] <gnuyoga> morning
[09:28] <RoyK> mrnng
[09:30] <markatto> I am trying to file a bug on launchpad, but I can't figure out how. The "report a bug" button just sends me to a page with instructions on how to use some gui thing.
[09:31] <nigelb> markatto: Its not only a gui thing.
[09:31] <nigelb> apport-cli exists
[09:32] <markatto> nigelb: can you point me at instructions?
[09:32] <nigelb> markatto: I'm pretty sure you can just do 'ubuntu-bug packagename', the page you got sent to should have detailed instructions :)
[09:34] <markatto> nigelb: the instructions all refer to gui boxes popping up and getting sent to a webpage, but I'll try ubuntu-bug
[09:34] <nigelb> markatto: I can sum up in a minute anyway.
[09:35] <markatto> there is no `ubuntu-bug` command, btw
[09:35] <nigelb> (1) Find your package. If you know the binary, do a "which binary" to find the path the binary. THen do dpkg -S /path/to/binary to find the package
[09:36] <nigelb> (2) You can either do "ubuntu-bug package", or "apport-cli package"
[09:37] <nigelb> markatto: That's strange. Which release? Do you have apport installed?
[09:37] <markatto> 10.04 server
[09:37] <markatto> I am installing the apport package now
[09:37] <nigelb> My 10.04 servers do have apport.
[09:38] <nigelb> While you can override this, its nicer to file a bug with apport since it most of the time collects a bunch of relevant information which makes triaging easier.
[09:38] <nigelb> Or else, you're going to go back and forth to get the right info.
[09:39] <markatto> nigelb: I think i've got it
[09:39] <nigelb> \o/
[09:39] <markatto> i viewed the report and it didn't have that much relevant stuff in it
[09:40] <markatto> imho this is unecessarily convoluted
[09:40] <nigelb> Yeah, I'm goign to bring it up to bug squad.
[09:40] <nigelb> This is certainly painful for server.
[09:40] <nigelb> markatto: which package was this btw?
[09:41] <markatto> rsyslog-gnutls
[09:41] <nigelb> It probably doesn't have a hook.
[09:41] <nigelb> Packages with hooks have beautiful functionality from apport. However, I see your point.
[09:42] <nigelb> markatto: Could you link me to the wiki page (I don't get there, bug control member)
[09:42] <nigelb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ?
[09:42] <markatto> yeah that
[09:42] <nigelb> markatto: For future, use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_at_Launchpad.net
[09:43] <markatto> mmk
[09:43] <markatto> debian and fedora are much simpler than this
[09:43] <lynxman> jamespage: morningsir
[09:43] <nigelb> markatto: heh, I might disagree about debian  ;)
[09:44] <nigelb> Although debian bug reporting awakens the geek in me
[09:44] <markatto> nigelb: well, regardless, the package works in debian ;)
[09:49] <ersi> markatto: thanks for taking time reporting/trying to report an issue :)
[09:50] <markatto> ersi: yeah it sucks that a web search turns up many people with the same problem, but no bugs have been filed
[09:51] <ersi> yeah, that always sucks quite hard
[09:52] <markatto> even worse is that it is 5 am and I need this working by tomorrow
[09:53] <markatto> so i'm probably going to have to build a new package myself
[10:12] <koolhead17> hi all
[10:13] <markatto> is there a way to attach multiple files in launchpad, or should I just tar them up?
[10:34] <thevinci> AGGH! I just ran a process on my server, command line, ya know? And now after the print out, I'm left with a blinking cursor stuck in the process! How do I get out!?
[10:34] <thevinci> 'quit' 'exit' and 'escape' did not work
[10:37] <markatto> thevinci: ctrl+c
[10:38] <thevinci> I tried that. it just printed a bunch of gibberish on the screen, kinda like when I try to use arrow keys right now
[10:38] <nigelb> maybe break out of the ssh session?
[10:38] <nigelb>  Enter + ~ + .
[10:38] <markatto> thevinci: some programs will terminate with ctrl+d (EOL)
[10:39] <markatto> or, open a new shell and kill the process
[10:40] <markatto> or try ctrl+z to pause it
[10:40] <thevinci> thank you! Swithcing to a different console helped
[10:41] <thevinci> I didn't know I could do that in a server setting. Just started this project this week
[10:42] <markatto> thevinci: you are physically in front of the server and using keyboard + monitor?
[10:42] <thevinci> yes
[10:43] <markatto> ctrl+alt+[F1-F6] are all getty instances on most linux installs
[10:43] <thevinci> I knew I could do that in my ubuntu desktop, just never made the corralation to the server side. lol
[10:44] <thevinci> like I said, just started this this week. been using ubuntu desktop for a few years now though. exited to dive deeper in to the command line O.o
[10:50] <sanderj_> Why is my load average 18.00 14.21 12.21, when my processes isn't using more than 20% cpu and memory?
[10:51] <maswan> most likely waiting for disk access
[10:54] <markatto> or network i/o
[10:54] <markatto> but probably disk
[10:54] <markatto> sanderj_: check iostat
[11:40] <thevinci> Anyone know a good service for streaming video from ubuntu server to xbox 360?
[11:41] <thevinci> I already have FTP, and DAAP set up and working, but neither of those work with the 360, nor does mediatomb
[11:58] <markatto> thevinci: google says uShare
[11:59] <thevinci> thanks markatto, I'll check that out
[11:59] <thevinci> believe me, I've been googling, lol, just didn't come up with that one yet
[12:38] <lynxman> koolhead17: hey, morning ;)
[12:38] <koolhead17> hello lynxman :)
[12:40] <thevinci> any of you familiar with Samba?
[12:40] <koolhead17> thevinci: the dance ?
[12:40] <koolhead17> :D
[12:41] <thevinci> lol, no the file sharing protocol
[12:41] <lynxman> thevinci: rather than ask to ask, ask away your question, I'm sure someone will pick it up :)
[12:41] <koolhead17> indeed thevinci :)
[12:41] <thevinci> I'm trying to set up my ubuntu server with samba. I've followed a tutorial and i think I've configured it right, but I can't connect to it from my laptop
[12:42] <thevinci> I have samba installed on my laptop as well
[12:43] <thevinci> When I click on the network folder in ubuntu, all it shows me is 'windows networks' and when I click that, it tells me it can't connect to the server
[12:43] <lynxman> thevinci: any error on the logs?
[12:43] <lynxman> thevinci: /var/log/samba/*log on the server side
[12:44] <thevinci> lemme check lynxman...
[12:44] <koolhead17> thevinci: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html  is this the guide you followed?
[12:45] <thevinci> lynxman, it tells me no such file or directory exists
[12:45] <thevinci> and yes, that's the one i started with koolhead17
[12:46] <koolhead17> thevinci: is the service running
[12:46] <jamespage> iscsi root testing beckons this afternoon
[12:46] <jamespage> w00t
[12:47] <thevinci> well, when I tell it to start samba by 'sudo start samba' I get 'start: unknown job: samba
[12:47] <thevinci> =/
[12:48] <thevinci> smb doesn't work either
[12:48] <koolhead17> thevinci: so the service is not running it means
[12:48] <koolhead17> jamespage: :)
[12:48] <koolhead17> Daviey: hey
[12:48] <smb> thevinci, How can you say that?
[12:49] <thevinci> lol, sorry, was referring to a command, not you smb
[12:49] <thevinci> and yeah, that's what it looks like koolhead17
[12:49] <koolhead17> kim0: can you point me to the paste link of server guide. i need to check what all chapters is left and under me :D
[12:49]  * smb just had to jump on that opportunity
[12:49] <kim0> koolhead17: http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide
[12:50] <thevinci> i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling to no avail
[12:50] <kim0> koolhead17: if you wanna take one of the others .. feel free :D
[12:50] <koolhead17> kim0: i remember you told me that some more have been assigned under my belt. :)
[12:50] <kim0> koolhead17: did you try the core thing?
[12:50] <kim0> koolhead17: yes .. etckeeper I believe
[12:51] <koolhead17> kim0:  i will do etckeeper once am home
[12:51] <kim0> great
[12:51] <kim0> thanks man
[12:51] <thevinci> Is 'smbd' the same as samba?
[12:51] <koolhead17> thevinci: yes that is the daemon :)
[12:51] <thevinci> am I missing something installed on the laptop side of things?
[12:51] <koolhead17> thevinci: read the documentation once more
[12:52] <koolhead17> :)
[12:52] <thevinci> Ok, well, 'smbd' runs and restarts just fine
[12:52] <koolhead17> kim0: i have no KVM here, i have to use on virtualbox
[12:53] <koolhead17> thevinci: read the manual once again my suggestion would be to you.  And see if you missed adding something in the configuration file
[12:57] <koolhead17> kim0: no one is doing the web server part?
[12:57] <koolhead17> i can add myself to apache2 and php thing as well :p
[13:00] <hallyn_> smoser: do you still see bug 863629 on occasion?
[13:00] <smoser> where is mup?
[13:02] <smoser> hallyn_, i haven't seen it since the time i was looking at it.
[13:02] <smoser> but i haven't been trying
[13:03] <smoser> where did uvirtbot go ?
[13:03] <hallyn_> smoser: ok, thanks.  I think that the lxc_driver was dying before thte lxc_controller got going
[13:03] <smoser> anyone know ?
[13:03] <smoser> Daviey, ?
[13:03] <hallyn_> I'm going to leave it sit for now then
[13:03] <smoser> hallyn_, i can try today to run the same thing and see if i hit it.
[13:04] <smoser> regarding uvirtbot, i have:
[13:04] <smoser> 10/02/11 05:55:03 <--   uvirtbot has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[13:04] <smoser> time is eastern
[13:04] <Daviey> smoser: o/
[13:05] <smoser> do you know who ran uvirtbot daviey?
[13:05] <Daviey> smoser: uvirtbot is run by soren.. i assume it's poorly, and he hasn't noticed.  If it doesn't come back by end of week, we'll enable ubottu.
[13:05] <Daviey> I'm sure soren will resolve it when he notices.
[13:08] <kim0> koolhead17: check the list I emailed the server list .. only the mysql guy replied .. any other chapter, you can take .. just put your name on it, that would be very great. Thanks man
[13:08] <koolhead17> kim0: just added :D
[13:10] <kim0> koolhead17: woohoo
[13:14] <thevinci> read the manual again, cleaned up config file, still, when I click 'networks' i get failed to retrieve share list from server
[13:14] <thevinci> I know you don't have all the specific answers, just wondering if you can help point me in a good direction.
[13:23] <smoser> i think we should at least have a public git branch that includes the ubuntu fixes for opesnstack components.
[13:35] <lynxman> zuping
[13:35] <lynxman> zul: ping
[13:35] <lynxman> smoser: hey :)
[13:37] <smoser> hey.
[15:02] <JohnRandom> good evening
[15:02] <JohnRandom> quick question: I get "gcc: readline/libreadline.a: No such file or directory" during compilation of the python-django source … libreadline6-dev is installed … am I missing something?
[15:29] <jamespage> negronjl: around?
[15:37] <negronjl> jamespage: here
[15:37] <jamespage> negronjl, hey
[15:37] <negronjl> jamespage: hi
[15:38] <jamespage> negronjl: 1) I just finished a load of work on the tomcat7 juju charm - OK if I retro fit to the tomcat6 one?
[15:38] <jamespage> and 2) have you had a chance to look at the cassandra charm changes I proposed?
[15:39] <negronjl> jamespage: sure on the tomcat6 retro-fit.  don't remember the changes on cassandra.. can you tell me again?
[15:40] <jamespage> negronjl, http://tinyurl.com/3mt2ur6
[15:41] <jamespage> I did a bit of refactoring into a single script;
[15:41] <jamespage> and worked on the peering/cluster seeding so it requires less restarts of cassandra instances
[15:42] <jamespage> its still a little deficient in that it does not deal that well with units being removed
[15:42] <negronjl> jamespage: interesting... I don't remember seeing this at all... did you talk to me about this before and I just don't remember ( i must be going crazier than I thought ).  Give me a minute or two to read it over.
[15:42] <jamespage> negronjl, I did not talk to you about it - but requested a review from you
[15:43] <negronjl> jamespage: hmm... I approved it.  thanks for the changes.
[15:43] <negronjl> jamespage: interestingly enough, I received no email or notification ( that I can think of ) about it.  heh....water under the bridge now.
[15:44] <jamespage> negronjl, any chance you could update the ownership of lp:charm/cassandra to charmers?
[15:44] <jamespage> That way I can push it myself
[15:46] <negronjl> jamespage: done.  I also changed all of my charms that have been merged into lp:charm to charmers....sorry for the delay on this.
[15:47] <negronjl> jamespage: I have been out of work for a few days and have not kept up with things.
[15:47] <jamespage> negronjl, np - that was the only piece that was stalled :-)
[16:17] <Daviey> utlemming / smoser: do the cloud images not do a daily apt-get update?
[16:18] <smoser> what does that mean
[16:19] <Daviey> smoser: desktop, and unless i am mistaken - has a daily cron task of doing an "apt-get update" to reflect the current cache
[16:20] <smoser> Daviey, i do not believe they do.  I do not believe that the default server installation does that.
[16:20] <smoser> if default server does, and cloud images do not, then we should fix that.
[16:21] <smoser> if you're just saying "why dont we test the mirrors more frequently?", we can probably have that done.
[16:22] <smoser> utlemming, i'm thinking that we could add code to the publishing process that used python-apt to check mirrors.  and just report failures.
[16:23] <Daviey> smoser: hmm, /etc/cron.daily/apt is present
[16:24] <utlemming> Daviey: what are you seeing that is prompting the question?
[16:24] <Daviey> utlemming: I was suprised to not see any pending updates, on a 8 day old cloud image
[16:27] <rbasak> Does it prompt for something related to updates at installation time?
[16:27] <utlemming> Daviey: did an apt-get update show
[16:27] <Daviey> no
[16:27] <rbasak> Presumably the cloud images are built with a preseed
[16:28] <utlemming> one of the final build processes is to run "apt-get update"
[16:28] <Daviey> 11.04 Server iso =
[16:28] <Daviey> dave@bootie:~$ apt-config shell UpdateInterval APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists
[16:28] <Daviey> UpdateInterval='1'
[16:29] <Daviey> It's null on the cloud images.
[16:29] <smoser> well what is modifying that ?
[16:30] <utlemming> I wonder if that is live build....
[16:31] <utlemming> live-build has the options of "--yes --force-yes -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True -o Acquire::Retries=3 -o APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated=true"
[16:31]  * utlemming checks to see if those options are written out
[16:38] <utlemming> so it looks like live-build does de-configure the apt config when the chroot is torn down
[16:39]  * utlemming looks to fix the problem
[16:41] <Daviey> utlemming: cool.
[16:52] <rbasak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/862129 seems to be causing upgrades to fail for quite a lot of people - I've tracked down a number of duplicates. Can someone comment on my patch please?
[17:05] <Zanzacar> I have a remote server and I was wondering how might you find out if someone has tried to brute force your SSH?
[17:12] <Kiall> Hi All - Trying out Oneiric server (Beta 2, all updates applied) and am getting occasional Kernel Oops with KVM.. Anyone around who can help debug the issue?
[17:13] <jamespage> Daviey, SpamapS: iscsi root gets installed with a 'manual' entry for eth0 - and the network failsafe stuff then kicks in
[17:13] <jamespage> any ideas?
[17:13] <Daviey> jamespage: is that a regression?
[17:14] <jamespage> Daviey: not sure - if you remember for beta-2 it would not boot at-all
[17:14] <jamespage> I think it was OK before that tho
[17:15] <Daviey> jamespage: can you raise a bug with that?
[17:15] <jamespage> Daviey: sure
[17:16] <Daviey> jamespage: I think it needs to be confirmed to be a regression (from Natty), before we consider fixing it.
[17:16] <Daviey> If it is a regression, we could probably target a fix - otherwise it's one for P.
[17:17] <jamespage> Daviey: ack - I need to take a break now but I will be back later
[17:17] <Daviey> jamespage: oh sure.. i don't want you panicing over it.  If we know before 10:00 Monday, that would be rocking.
[17:18] <Daviey> adam_g: around?
[17:19] <bau-> hi all, i'm configuring postfix to simply send an email from a php page. I have done everything, but when I receive the mail, is says: from: www-data@what i want how can I change www-data with something else?
[17:44] <Kiall> anyone know if I've filed this oneiric kernel/kvm/openstack kernel oops bug with all the necessary info? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/870168
[18:26] <utlemming> Daviey: still awake?
[18:35] <Daviey> utlemming: yup
[18:38] <Doonz> how can i find out what is accessing my device /dev/sdc1 my system claims its busy yet lsof and fuser dont list anything
[18:39] <utlemming> Daviey: I just installed a server from the daily ISO, and APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists is not set
[18:40] <Daviey> Hmm, interesting.. it is set on natty. :/
[18:40] <utlemming> Daviey: that was with a minimal install.
[18:40] <Daviey> You get a null return?
[18:40] <utlemming> correct
[18:40] <utlemming> I checked my Beta1 install and it had it set
[18:40] <Daviey> utlemming: you installed from beta 1, or upgraded from prior?
[18:41] <utlemming> Daviey: test1) beta1 install, upgraded - good
[18:41] <utlemming> test2) daily server install - bad
[18:43] <utlemming> Daviey: do you know what package sets that value?
[18:44] <hggdh> Daviey: bug 870212 should aat least be mentioned on the release notes, I think
[18:44] <hggdh> hell, where is the bot?
[18:44] <hggdh> Daviey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/870212
[18:45] <jamespage> Daviey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/870214
[18:57] <Daviey> jamespage: ta
[18:57] <Daviey> utlemming: no, sorry.
[18:57] <jamespage> Daviey: effects auth and unauth amd64
[18:57] <jamespage> just going to regression test natty
[18:57] <Daviey> thanks hggdh
[19:23] <consumerism> on my ubuntu nfs server i am looking at htop and the total of all the reported processes memory usage is less than 5%, but about 4.5GB out of 8GB are used (green) in htop, and free -m agrees (-/+ buffers/cache:       4419). how can i see what's using up all the memory?
[19:25] <consumerism> in top, if i sort by %MEM, only the top few processes are using more than 0 and each of them only use 1 or 2 %.
[19:26] <consumerism> yet...Mem:   7358492k total,  7321908k used,    36584k free,     2368k buffers. so about 4.5GB should be used by user processes right? where are they?
[19:36] <Kiall> consumerism, try "free -m" on the command line ..
[19:37] <Kiall> the free amount on the +/- buffers col is what's actually free
[19:55] <RobinBAwesome> hi, i'm trying to edit the 10.04 minimal iso with a preseed, and after the installer configures DHCP it just hangs for a couple minutes before moving on on a blue screen. the log says "net-retriever:". what could this be?
[19:56] <RobinBAwesome> the install continues, but it seems like it's timing out. i've tried it both without modification and against a local apt cache with the same results
[20:12] <soren> Daviey: I'll take a look at uvirtbot.
[20:14] <Daviey> soren: good sushi
[20:14] <consumerism> Kiall: quoting myself from my first message: "free -m agrees (-/+ buffers/cache:       4419)"
[20:15] <soren> Daviey: Weird. Supy still lives, but it's just not connected.
[20:15] <iggi_> Hello, I seem to have a problem with emulating PFSense 2.0 on QEMU-KVM 0.14.0 and Ubuntu 11.04, I have it running on another machine with Ubuntu 10.10 and QEMU-KVM 0.12.5. Whenever I start the virtual machine it loads the boot menu on the live CD and then locks up in a few seconds effectively using 100% of the cpu
[20:15] <consumerism> Kiall: i want to know which processes are using that memory since top and htop only list a few processes using any memory at all, and the total % is less than 5. i want to know what processes are using the other 95% of the memory which free -m reports used.
[20:15] <Daviey> soren: blame freenode, bet it got lost in a netsplit
[20:16] <soren> INFO 2011-10-02T10:06:56 supybot Error message from freenode: Ping sent at 2011-10-02T10:04:55 not replied to.
[20:16] <soren> Then nothing.
[20:16] <Daviey> freenode is so rude
[20:17] <Daviey> soren: maybe if you were running smosos it would have been reliable.
[20:18] <Kiall> consumerism: if "free -m" said "(-/+ buffers/cache:       4419)" .. then you have 4.4GB free, while top said you had 36584k free..
[20:18] <soren> Daviey: I'm not the target audience, I'm afraid. :(
[20:18] <Kiall> the difference is the disk cache, and its usable free RAM, just linux decides to put it to use (speeding up disk access) rather than let it sit idle..
[20:19] <Daviey> soren: :(
[20:20] <consumerism> Kiall: i thought - buffers meant that that amount was used by user processes. the usage in top reports the total usage including kernel buffers and disk cache
[20:20] <soren> Daviey: :(
[20:20] <soren> Daviey: kill -HUP killed it.
[20:21]  * soren hasn't grown out of uptime fixation yet
[20:21] <soren> soren     3985  0.9 18.6 224432 10912 pts/0    Rs+   2010 8064:11 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/supybot virtbot.conf
[20:22] <Kiall> consumerism: the buffers are usually only a small % of the difference .. they should be listed on the first line of free -m
[20:23] <Kiall> eg .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/704171/
[20:26] <Kiall> soren: your involved with openstack package for ubuntu right? (I could be thinking of someone else..)
[20:26] <Kiall> you're*
[20:27] <Kiall> packaging* .. not my day!
[20:31] <daxroc> evening
[20:31] <Daviey> soren: i used to run some servers that sync'd with the uptime project :)
[20:31] <Daviey> soren: you did the noa xen package?
[20:31] <Daviey> nova*
[20:40] <jamespage> Daviey: all iscsi root tests completed - all had the same long boot/failsafe issue
[20:43] <consumerism> Kiall: so in your paste, which number is the amount of memory used by user processes?
[20:44] <Kiall> 4034M
[20:44] <Daviey> jamespage: rocking :/
[20:44] <Daviey> jamespage: thanks for doing them.. have you failed them on the iso tracker?
[20:44] <jamespage> Daviey: I suspect that the interface is set to manual for good reason
[20:45] <jamespage> well TBH they don't fail - they just take a long time to boot
[20:45] <jamespage> I've linked the bug on all four test cases from the ISO tracker
[20:45] <Daviey> jamespage: can you throw open a bug, otherwise i will forget.
[20:45] <Daviey> In the least, it's something for P
[20:46] <jamespage> Daviey: any specific tag?
[20:47] <jamespage> ah - it already has server-o-rs
[20:47] <Daviey> jamespage: server-o-ro, not sure it will get fixed - but i'd like to strill track it as sucj
[20:47] <Daviey> hmm, which bug number?
[20:47] <jamespage> bug 870214
[20:47] <jamespage> w00t the bot it back
[20:48] <jamespage> I don't know much about /etc/network/interfaces other than how to use it but that might actually make sense
[20:48] <jamespage> you don't want the network interface to be downed/upped again during boot - because you are booting off it?
[20:49] <jamespage> Daviey ^^
[20:49] <jamespage> might be talking out of my hat - be there you go :-)
[20:49] <jamespage> be/but
[20:49] <Daviey> sounds viable
[20:50] <Daviey> (you talking out of your hat, that is :)
[20:50] <jamespage> lol
[21:09] <jamespage> Daviey: bug 870244 - Precise?
[21:11] <jamespage> its been there for a while...
[21:14] <Daviey> jamespage: If you are motivated to fix it for Oneiric, i'd be happy approving it.
[21:14] <Daviey> Seems like a safe simple fix.
[21:24] <jamespage> Daviey: OK - looking at it now
[21:33] <Daviey> jamespage: remember to have a weekend aswell. :)
[21:33] <jamespage> bah - who need one anyway...
[21:35] <Daviey> jamespage: Now there is a core-dev, if i ever saw one!
[21:41] <jamespage> Daviey: hmm - well the change is easy - however dovecot does not really like restarting
[21:41] <jamespage> I'm going to leave this for tonight and take a look early monday
[21:42] <Daviey> jamespage: if it starts to look less than fun, probably better to defer it.. See how it goes
[21:42] <Daviey> What was dovecot doing?
[21:43] <jamespage> Daviey: if restarts to quickly - the sockets have not cleaned up from the previous instance
[21:43] <jamespage> if/it
[21:43] <jamespage> so it fails to start
[21:45] <Daviey> geez, that sounds like a standalone restart also fails then?
[21:46] <Daviey> as in, dovecot on it's own - not part of the stack package
[22:47] <Tohuw> bind9 is throwing "rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused" on reload. Nothing shows in syslog. The named PID file has the right permissions. Clues?
[23:07] <Tohuw> Turns out it was a permissions issue on a few config files in /etc/bind. All is well now.
[23:37] <LUCID_PHP> Hi, what is the best way to get PHP 5.3.8 on Lucid LTS - with future security updates...
[23:37] <LUCID_PHP> but I also need APC...