[05:15] <knightwise> morning everyone
[05:33] <knightwise> msg HazRPG morning !
[05:35] <shauno> lol .. morning knightwise
[06:37] <AlanBell> morning all
[06:42] <GirlyGirl> morning!
[06:42] <knightwise> mornign AlanBell
[06:42] <knightwise> happy birthday btw AlanBell :)
[06:42] <knightwise> wasnt it your bday this week ?
[06:42] <AlanBell> nope!
[06:42] <knightwise> darn , my bad
[06:43] <AlanBell> hehe
[06:43] <knightwise> i thought i saw somethin on facebook
[06:43] <AlanBell> mid June
[06:43] <AlanBell> Pendulum and czajkowski have recently got less young
[06:43] <GirlyGirl> knightwise: I'm sure you AlanBell would still like a gift though for his immaginary bday
[06:44] <AlanBell> good thinking GirlyGirl
[06:46] <knightwise> GirlyGirl: he should be so lucky !
[07:01] <AlanBell> http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/ now accepting pre-orders for Oneiric CDs
[07:06] <popey> AlanBell: worth updating the artwork on that page?
[07:07] <diplo> Morning all
[07:07] <AlanBell> just about :)
[07:07] <AlanBell> would be surprised if many people noticed the updated artwork, but I will do it. At the moment it just surfaces images from shop.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <popey> ahhh
[07:09] <AlanBell> in fact, I am lazy, I will wait for the store to do the thumbnailing for me
[07:25] <DJones> Morning all
[07:59] <j0nr> hello everyone
[07:59] <j0nr> turning coldafter that little hot spell
[08:00] <j0nr> it is October after all
[08:18] <gord> http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2011/10/04/ubuntu-is-closing-for-the-winter-to-take-a-sabbatical/ oh no!
[08:20] <bigcalm> Morning peeps
[08:22]  * bigcalm scratches his head
[08:22]  * DJones offers bigcalm a nit comb
[08:22] <bigcalm> Ta, but I really just need a wash
[08:22] <bigcalm> ;)
[08:23] <DJones> Thats good news, much healthier
[08:30] <czajkowski> Aloha
[08:31] <bigcalm> Hi
[08:32] <DJones> Morning czajkowski
[08:32] <czajkowski> can I just say time sheets are a pain in the arse
[08:33] <JamesTait> Happy Friday, everyone!
[08:34] <DJones> Agreed, thankfully after doing them for 23 years in previous jobs, I don't need to do them in this one :)
[08:34] <gord> wait, its friday? wooo
[08:35]  * Laney gets down
[08:38] <DJones> Doesn't Friday just mean its teh start of the overtime weekend catching up on the things people didn't have time to do in the normal week
[08:38] <bigcalm> DJones: you've just described my life :(
[08:39] <DJones> Heh, I was going to say "catching up on the things that people couldn't do because they were too busy playing minecraft on works time"
[08:40] <DJones> Oh wait, thats me :)
[08:40] <bigcalm> :D
[08:40] <DJones> Good job we've got a rubbish computer system that makes me wait for between 30-60 minutes running some reports
[08:41] <bigcalm> Ug
[08:48]  * AlanBell waves danfish in the direction of http://www.ehi.co.uk/events/ehi-live/skunkworks/
[08:48] <kirrus> This is a bit of a silly question.. but does the partition type for swap actually need to be swap (82)? I've always set it so, so never found out!
[08:57] <gordonjcp> kirrus: not really
[08:57] <gordonjcp> kirrus: it makes it easier for things to "guess" what the partition type is meant to be
[08:58] <kirrus> grand, thanks gordonjcp :)
[08:59] <danfish> thanks AlanBell :)
[09:17] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:37] <HazRPG> knightwise: morning dude! \o I think you forgot the / in front of that msg :P
[09:37] <brobostigon> morning HazRPG :)
[09:37] <HazRPG> AlanBell: Ah, mid june is your birthday... much the same as me then!
[09:38] <HazRPG> AlanBell: its great having a summer birthday isn't it :)
[09:38] <HazRPG> brobostigon: morning dude \o
[09:38] <brobostigon> o/
[09:38] <Myrtti> august 13th ♥
[09:39] <Myrtti> although recent events have made a part of my oggcamp birthday raffle prize redundant...
[09:40] <bigcalm> Not the penguin?!
[09:41] <Myrtti> no... I just have to give back my laptop
[09:41] <Myrtti> :-(
[09:41] <bigcalm> :(
[09:42] <Myrtti> the axe finally swung for good
[10:07] <davmor2> morning all
[10:08]  * czajkowski hugs Myrtti 
[10:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> Something for the weekend... http://news.techeye.net/mobile/oxford-uni-puts-the-large-hadron-collider-into-android
[10:31] <jpds> TheOpenSourcerer: Or you could give https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VakjZqso8Ik a try.
[10:32] <BigRedS> oooh
[10:38] <czajkowski> popey: nice blog post, clicking from FB open in chrome I get a 404 error as it puts www remove the www and it works. odd
[10:40] <bigcalm> popey: your mod_rewrite rules need correcting in .htaccess :)
[10:41] <popey> ugh
[10:41] <popey> help me fix it :D
[10:42] <DJones> Myrtti: Just just reading backlog, you share the same birthday as me
[10:44] <bigcalm> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^popey.com$ [NC]
[10:44] <bigcalm> RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.popey.com/$1 [R,L]
[10:44] <bigcalm> Try that
[10:44] <popey> its lighttpd not apache
[10:44] <bigcalm> No idea then :)
[10:45] <bigcalm> Actually, it'd want to be the reverse as well I guess
[10:45]  * bigcalm goes back to giving mobile devices some love
[10:45] <popey> try now?
[10:46] <gord> i'v decided i hate gmails priority inbox, it just collects google+ messages and ignores all my important email
[10:46] <bigcalm> 404
[10:47]  * popey has deleted the fb post
[10:47] <popey> stupid facebook
[10:47] <kirrus> gord: really? Mine ignores all my google+ messages :) Maybe google's algorithm just thinks you put more priority on them
[10:47] <bigcalm> I have g+ all archived to a folder and bypass inbox
[10:48] <gord> i have most of my stuff archived well so i don't really even need priority inbox
[10:49]  * brobostigon doenloads lhsee.
[10:50] <tonytiger> I already voted \o/
[10:50] <tonytiger> I wanted to vote for czajkowski. You put the candidate you want at the bottom of the list, right?
[10:51] <bigcalm> Heh
[10:52] <popey> :D
[10:53] <popey> 11 is bigger so that must be better
[10:53] <popey> I gave everyone 11
[10:53] <davmor2> bigcalm: so Steph rang me this morning and so you're aware the lighthouse is available 9-5 not 6 it is open to the cinema at 5:30 so it stops being University property at that point
[10:53] <brobostigon> very nice 3d graphics in lhsee,
[10:53] <DJones> Probably need to be nice to czajkowski, she's going to getting stressed ahead of her 6am date tomorrow
[10:57] <bigcalm> Aha
[10:57] <bigcalm> That's fine. An early bunk off is something I can cope with
[10:57] <bigcalm> davmor2: cheers
[11:02] <scoundrel50a> finally got my Oneiric working on my lenovo laptop, in the end, after a week of not getting the gui to load, and updating via Ctrl+Alt+F1 I added a new user and changed to admin in new user and the Unity finally loaded. Cant get Ubuntu one to synch tomboy notes, really annoying
[11:02] <popey> thats a known bug
[11:03] <scoundrel50a> ah, that is good to know, thanks popey, will stop trying now
[11:03] <davmor2> bigcalm: yeah I thought I'd let you know as soon as I did though
[11:03] <bigcalm> Rally the troops and get more people to come along :D
[11:03] <scoundrel50a> its very much like Mac os isnt it, but not quite as much functionality as mac
[11:04] <scoundrel50a> I have a macbook pro, and I was surprised at how much like the os Unity is
[11:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: Will be
[11:05] <popey> scoundrel50a: it is similar
[11:06] <popey> scoundrel50a: in the same way that other releases are similar to windows
[11:06] <davmor2> bigcalm: we got a month of advertising this time rather that 6 days :)
[11:06] <bigcalm> Hehe
[11:06] <bigcalm> Though I think the coffee rounds will get expensive ;)
[11:06] <scoundrel50a> popey: Having the mac os, does help with getting used to Unity I think
[11:07] <scoundrel50a> popey: it makes more sense
[11:07] <bigcalm> I should find out how well Unity copes with 3 screens
[11:07] <scoundrel50a> popey: I wasnt getting used to it, until I got the macbook
[11:08] <scoundrel50a> this lenovo laptop is amazing, I recommend getting one to anybody
[11:08] <popey> which model is it?
[11:09] <scoundrel50a> G550-6
[11:09] <scoundrel50a> the cheaper one, but it works well with Unity, and the support is amazing from linux emporium
[11:10] <tonytiger> It looks like a fairly bog standard laptop to me :)
[11:10] <scoundrel50a> plus it works with Ubuntu Classic and Gnome, I found out why I lost the window controls with Gnome it was in the settings
[11:11] <scoundrel50a> but a better graphics card than I have had till now
[11:11] <scoundrel50a> and this had 11.04 and 11.10 preinstalled without windows
[11:11] <Joeb454> scoundrel50a: I don't think unity is that much like the OS X dock - the taskbar in Windows 7 groups windows into 1 icon by default too
[11:12] <scoundrel50a> I didnt think it was like windows 7 at all, must have missed something, but very rarely use windows at all
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> it's very Windows 7y
[11:13] <scoundrel50a> just for updating my phone
[11:13] <MartijnVdS> Some games, TV firmware unpacking, updating my Logitech Harmony
[11:13] <Joeb454> I think it's the way quite a few UI's seem to be going now
[11:14] <scoundrel50a> once you use it more, it does make more sense, I do like the Classic version though, that is even better
[11:15] <Joeb454> I prefer unity, personally. I think that's because one of the features I liked most on OS X is spotlight, but I never really found anything similar for ubuntu...and the windows start menu wasn't the same. Unity manages to do that, and in a nicer way, IMO
[11:17] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Alan Pope] Voting in a new Ubuntu Community Council Begins - http://popey.com/blog/2011/10/07/voting-in-a-new-ubuntu-community-council-begins/
[11:17] <scoundrel50a> is there support for installing ubuntu on macs? I was wondering about doing that sometime, is it complicated?
[11:19] <directhex> depends on the age of the mac
[11:19] <jpds> scoundrel50a: Well, some stuff might not work; the hardware isn't built to run with Ubuntu.
[11:19] <scoundrel50a> ah
[11:20] <jpds> scoundrel50a: I once dealt with one that had no wireless detected by Ubuntu.
[11:20] <scoundrel50a> oh, that isnt good, I have an ethernet connection, but never use it
[11:21] <jpds> Buy a Thinkpad or something.
[11:21] <scoundrel50a> Unity does use the battery up very quickly though
[11:22] <jpds> scoundrel50a: Actually, that's probably more related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131
[11:23] <Joeb454> scoundrel50a: I managed to get Natty installed on my Macbook (late 2008), not sure I did it right though, as I screwed the boot on it
[11:23] <Joeb454> Apple still have it in for repair now :P
[11:25] <scoundrel50a> oh dear, how long has it been in for repair?
[11:27] <Joeb454> they said 3-5 days, but they've had it for 10 days now
[11:27] <scoundrel50a> I notice that I havent had any bugs appear since logging in today, in 11.10, had a huge update this morning, and the compiz bug stopped showing
[11:27] <scoundrel50a> do they normally take that long?
[11:29] <Joeb454> no, normally they've been really good. I've had to deal with apple customer relations once before, so I might email them, largely because when I called to ask about it yesterday the guy that answered the phone was quite rude
[11:32] <scoundrel50a> that is unusual, I have not had problems with them so far, they have really good.....sorry to hear that
[11:33] <DJones> This might be of interest to anybody who uses their android phone for book reading http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/07/google_books_app_launches_uk/
[11:37] <scoundrel50a> oh, I usually use Kindle, but will have to look out for that
[11:38] <DJones> I use FBReader, but I'll give it a go, review comments don't sound to brilliant for it
[11:41] <scoundrel50a> battery running out, have to log off, connector over other siden of room
[11:41] <scoundrel50a> by for now
[12:16] <gord> davmor2, remind me about the lighthouse thing again closer to the time, its only half an hour away or so on the train :)
[12:19] <davmor2> gord: I thought you were further up north than that
[12:21] <gord> davmor2, crewe, not that far away, but to be honest the rail links here are great, you hop on the fast virgin train and can get anywhere within two hours
[12:22] <davmor2> gord: oh man I thought you were much further north than that :)
[12:26] <czajkowski> I have proof davmor2 really wuvs me deep deep down!!!
[12:27] <davmor2> czajkowski: I haz proof there is alcohol in this dandelion and burdock
[12:28] <davmor2> bigcalm: see the numbers are increasing for the next one already :)
[12:29] <bigcalm> \o/
[12:30] <bigcalm> Announce it to the lists next?
[12:30] <davmor2> bigcalm: of course I feel sorry for czajkowski if me, you and gord are all in the same room
[12:30] <bigcalm> Hehe
[12:31] <bigcalm> We'll be too busy taking the piss out of each other to annoy czajkowski ;)
[12:31] <davmor2> bigcalm: I know she won't feel the love at all that's what I mean
[12:32] <bigcalm> Ah
[12:32] <czajkowski> bigcalm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski#Testimonials_about_my_work_in_the_Ubuntu_Community 1st comment davmor2
[12:32] <czajkowski> see he wuvs me!
[12:33] <bigcalm> czajkowski: sounds like a different davmor2 to me ;)
[12:34] <davmor2> bigcalm: I repeat <davmor2> czajkowski: I haz proof there is alcohol in this dandelion and burdock
[12:34] <popey> moooooooooooooooooooo
[12:34] <bigcalm> Haha
[12:34] <Laney> popey: you didn't say that emmet is standing again
[12:34] <Laney> ps GREETINGS!
[12:34] <popey> oops
[12:35] <popey> yes i did
[12:35] <jussi> How was the pub lunch?
[12:35] <popey> 	<li><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmmetHikory">Emmet Hikory</a></li>
[12:35] <jussi> popey: ^^^
[12:35] <Laney> no like this
[12:35] <Laney> "Daniel and Lyz are standing again"
[12:35] <popey> well
[12:35] <popey> its tricky
[12:35] <popey> we haven't actually spoken to him
[12:35] <popey> so thought best to add him anyway
[12:35] <Laney> hah
[12:35] <Laney> been there
[12:36] <popey> jussi: crabbies and a fish finger sandwich
[12:36] <jussi> popey: nom?
[12:36] <popey> very
[12:38] <bigcalm> Hey Hey W Are Not the Monkees
[12:38] <bigcalm> What a strange 80s rap track
[12:38] <bigcalm> s/W/We
[12:44]  * czajkowski hugs davmor2 
[12:46] <davmor2> bigcalm: strange 80's rap would be morris major and the minors with the stutter rap
[12:51] <Myrtti> woo, at my apartment ♥
[12:59] <AlanBell> Myrtti: what country are you calling home right now?
[13:30] <popey> stupid dput not working behind a stupid proxy
[13:30] <popey> bah!
[13:43] <Myrtti> AlanBell: whatever where majority of my socks reside
[13:44] <czajkowski> popey: thanks for doing the blog post, we're all using it to share and link to
[13:44] <czajkowski> I've yet to wear socks yet
[13:44] <czajkowski> only then will I admit it's cold
[13:46] <popey> hehe
[13:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> Great PR: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/10/ubuntu-powers-hp-public-cloud/
[13:47] <czajkowski> hate wearing socs
[13:47] <czajkowski> oh also turns out I've a sprained ankle but didnt notice as taking enough meds for my back not to notice
[13:47] <czajkowski> go me
[13:47] <czajkowski> I am full of fail this week
[14:24] <czajkowski>  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-15213346
[14:26] <bigcalm> So sad
[14:27] <popey> i got home from work yesterday to find some chestnuts on my desk :D
[14:27] <popey> they have huge chestnut trees at the kids school
[14:29] <popey> hmm, the only mp3 on my laptop is nyancat.mp3
[14:30] <Joeb454> popey: (and anybody else on G+) have you noticed that you'll get the notification either via the phone app or web about 3 hours before the email? Or is that just me?
[14:30] <popey> yes
[14:30] <bigcalm> It appears to be the case, yes
[14:43] <Joeb454> I don't know why, but that bugs me. You'd think they'd be able to email you sooner than that
[14:45] <kirrus> are the emails batched, contain multiple notifications for the last 3 hours?
[14:45] <kirrus> makes sense if so, to not flood you with emails
[14:47] <davmor2> czajkowski: I've told akgraner you're being nice to me publicly she just laughed
[14:49]  * czajkowski goes down on one knee to davmor2 I think you're just great 
[14:50] <davmor2> czajkowski: Get up you creep ;)
[14:50] <popey> i see the candidates are being especially nice to everyone
[14:52] <Joeb454> kirrus: now you mention it, I think they might be
[14:52] <Joeb454> popey: think it'll last long?
[14:53] <davmor2> popey: I wouldn't mind but I only said she was gobby
[15:08] <rascal999> anyone on BT?
[15:08] <Seeker`> for broadband?
[15:09] <rascal999> yeah
[15:09] <Seeker`> yup
[15:10] <rascal999> Seeker`: can you access http://www.newzbin.com ?
[15:10] <rascal999> BT were ordered to block it, but i've read no further news
[15:11] <Seeker`> err, not on a BT connection at present
[15:11] <rascal999> dang
[15:18] <diplo> rascal999, in news today
[15:18] <diplo> They are appealing it
[15:18] <diplo> So doubt it will be banned yet
[15:30] <czajkowski> popey: I'm alaways nice to popey on the 1st friday of the month
[15:30] <czajkowski> after that it's game on
[15:30] <czajkowski> and now I've no Moodoo I've a gord
[15:30] <czajkowski> but I'm gentle with gorl
[15:30] <czajkowski> *gord
[15:30] <gord> gorl for short
[15:31] <popey> WHAT!?
[15:31] <popey> there's a _pattern_ to this madness!?
[15:32] <gord> yeah, but observing it changes it
[15:32]  * popey blinks
[15:32]  * popey likes blinking
[15:32] <bigcalm> Weeping Angels like popey
[15:33] <czajkowski> it'll be back to normal come tomorrow
[15:33] <czajkowski> and I shall be back to poking kicking and throttling davmor2
[15:33] <czajkowski> then teasing gord about nice foods I have till moodoo comes back
[15:33] <czajkowski> simples
[15:33] <bigcalm> *squeek*
[15:38] <czajkowski> stupid meerkat add
[15:38] <bigcalm> Oh dear. My android tablet is telling a website that it's an iPad
[15:38]  * bigcalm sighs
[15:45] <gord> maybe it is an ipad and you are just confused?
[15:47] <davmor2> czajkowski: in that case, I may just tie your hair to your chair in preparation for your departure :)
[15:47] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1283/detail/ dont forget to register if you're coming along
[16:31] <stuphi> Anybody here use a Twinhan USB DVB tuner card with 11.10?
[16:31] <MartijnVdS> let me check the brand on mine
[16:31] <stuphi> This happens with mine:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/704076/
[16:31] <MartijnVdS> [532177.990328] dvb-usb: WideView WT-220U PenType Receiver (Typhoon/Freecom) successfully initialized and connected.
[16:32] <MartijnVdS> stuphi: Ooh, shiny crash
[16:32] <MartijnVdS> stuphi: you'll probably want to report a bug for that
[16:32] <stuphi> MartijnVdS: Any suggestion what package to report against?
[16:33] <MartijnVdS> stuphi: the kernel, let me find a HOWTO
[16:33] <MartijnVdS> stuphi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[16:33] <stuphi> MartijnVdS: Thanks for that.
[16:59] <davmor2> gord: you going to the release party?
[17:00] <gord> davmor2, nope, too far for me
[17:00] <davmor2> I still have a horrible feeling that we'll be working on a release then, but I'm still hoping
[17:19] <gord> davmor2, work on release *at* the party
[17:20] <davmor2> gord: it's at the cask wifi never works at the cask
[17:21] <gord> davmor2, mobile internet?
[17:21] <davmor2> there ahahahahahahahahahaha
[17:21] <gord> unless i'm out of the country, i don't even bother using wifi out and about these days
[17:57] <brobostigon> terry gilliam, on the one show, :)
[18:07] <AlanBell> waterponies \o/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15215335
[18:16] <zleap> brobostigon, no idea who he is
[18:17] <brobostigon> zleap: director, and member and animator for monty python.
[18:17] <zleap> ah
[18:28] <popey> Evening all!
[18:28] <brobostigon> evening popey
[18:28] <zleap> evening
[18:28] <zleap> not long to go
[18:36] <DJones> popey: Are you now a retired council member now?
[18:37]  * popey puts his feet up
[18:37] <popey> yeah
[18:37] <popey> (no)
[18:37] <popey> staying on till newbs are voted in
[18:37] <DJones> heh
[18:39] <DJones> I would have thought the vote would be before your term ended so they'd take over as one term ended
[18:41] <AlanBell> DJones: this is still the dreamy oneiric cycle, administrative processes will be precise next time
[18:49] <popey> Impressed that we'll have an installfest three days after release
[18:49] <popey> thats brilliant work
[19:03] <zleap> popey, i want to do stuff here in South Devon but no one seems to be ever avialbel to help when i mention it on the list
[19:03] <zleap> as in dclug list
[19:18] <davmor2> czajkowski: Boo!!!
[19:45] <pepito> hello all!  I am having some major issues and could really use some help from people who know what the heck they
[19:45] <pepito> are doing
[19:47] <pepito> I bought my laptop from an aquaintance (i wont say friend) who had a friend of hers wipe the hard drive and install his windows vista ultimate on it... problem is I didnt know this and the thirty day registration window ran out
[19:48] <pepito> and when I tried to get the product key from him and enter it, it says the product key has already been used.... anyway long story short, I have decided to go with Ubuntu and would like to install it on my computer
[19:49] <pepito> the problem is that I am accessing the internet through the windows vista "limited access" feature which means it allows me to get on the internet (although it kicks me off every thirty minutes or so)
[19:49] <pepito> and I downloaded ubuntu to my hard drive, but I have noooooo idea how to install it and get an operating system up and running
[19:50] <pepito> I am severely clueless when it comes to IT stuff, and I am really really hoping someone here has a clue how I can install ubuntu from my harddrive
[19:51] <pepito> I am not able to access my USB drive or my CD burner in order to install Ubuntu the way it is explained on the website
[19:51] <pepito> Can anyone give me any good advice?
[19:55] <pepito> anybody there?
[19:57] <Pernig> o/ pepito
[19:57] <pepito> hi pernig
[19:57] <Pernig> howcome you can't access a cd burner?
[19:58] <pepito> because all that windows vista will allow me to do is access the internet
[19:58] <Pernig> hmmm
[19:58] <Pernig> and USB drives will not show up?
[19:59] <pepito> there si a black screen with a small notice in the corner saying that the version of windows has not been confirmed as genuine
[19:59] <pepito> I can't see or click on ANYthing
[19:59] <pepito> I have the download window open...
[19:59] <Pernig> oh dear
[19:59] <Pernig> right
[19:59] <pepito> since I just finished downloading ubuntu
[20:00] <Pernig> when you turn the computer on
[20:00] <Pernig> wait until the boot screen goes off
[20:00] <pepito> and I clicked on the downloaded file to try to open it, but it just says that there is no program to open this .iso file
[20:00] <Pernig> then tap F8 a few times
[20:00] <pepito> okay .....
[20:00] <Pernig> you will get a dialogue with things like "last known good configuration, repair this computer and safe mode"
[20:00] <Pernig> what you want is safe mode
[20:00] <pepito> okay... taking notes...
[20:01] <Pernig> you _should_ be able to access CDs and USB devices from there
[20:01] <pepito> okay,.. that is good to know.... the question I still have is..
[20:01] <Pernig> fire away
[20:02] <pepito> how do I get the file from my download file where it is located now into a USB drive?
[20:02] <pepito> will I be able to access the download from this safe mode?
[20:02] <Pernig> you will be able to access the download
[20:02] <Pernig> but you probably won't be able to initiate new downloads
[20:02] <Pernig> so download the things you need now
[20:02] <Pernig> i would recommend a tool called unetbootin
[20:03] <pepito> okay,  unetbootin
[20:03] <Pernig> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:03] <pepito> is it pretty intuitive to use?
[20:03] <Pernig> it's simple enough
[20:03] <Pernig> that screenshot that you see on the unetbootin homepage
[20:03] <Pernig> you choose the radio button marked 'diskimage
[20:03] <Pernig> '
[20:03] <Pernig> and press the three dots
[20:04] <Pernig> and choose your Ubuntu iso that you have already downloaded
[20:04] <pepito> furiously scribbling notes....
[20:04] <Pernig> then for your drive, choose the USB drive you have plugged in (format this before you run unetbootin)
[20:05] <pepito> okay that triggers question
[20:06] <pepito> formating the USB drive involves...? (sorry I am really IT clueless)
[20:06] <Pernig> go to the start button in the bottom left
[20:06] <Pernig> click that
[20:07] <Pernig> then click computer
[20:07] <Pernig> your drive will be in the section for 'removeable devices'
[20:07] <pepito> will the start button be there in the "safe mode"?
[20:07] <Pernig> or something like that
[20:07] <Pernig> yep
[20:07] <pepito> ok
[20:07] <Pernig> then right click on the drive you want to format
[20:07] <Pernig> it brings up a menu
[20:07] <Pernig> and format is one of the options
[20:07] <Pernig> there are a few options there but again quite straightforward
[20:08] <Pernig> i usually tick 'quick format' or it takes quite a while
[20:09] <pepito> okay I think I got it... when I format the USB drive I assume whatever is on it will be deleted?
[20:09] <Pernig> yeah
[20:09] <Pernig> back up your things first if possible
[20:09] <Pernig> this will also be the case when you install Ubuntu on your computer's internal hard drive
[20:09] <pepito> okay
[20:09] <pepito> I really appreciate this by the way
[20:10] <pepito> I mean I REALLY appreciate it
[20:10] <Pernig> no prob
[20:10] <pepito> can I pick your brain for just a few seconds longer?
[20:10] <Pernig> i think we were all where you are at one stage
[20:10] <Pernig> of course
[20:11] <pepito> I made the decision to do Ubuntu partly because of the ridiculous cost of windows 7 and partly because I find Microsoft's methods.... diabolical to put it nicely.... but mostly because I believe in the concept of open source
[20:12] <pepito> I have been reading up on alternative economies, Sacred Economics and etc..... anyway my point is I have a strong desire to work with Ubuntu
[20:12] <pepito> and had already started down this path with OPen office...
[20:12] <pepito> the question comes now...
[20:12] <Pernig> ok
[20:13] <pepito> will Ubuntu be a functional system?   I mean, open office is great in many ways, but when it comes to interfacing with word users, I find that little details like formatting are slightly different... this
[20:14] <Pernig> of course it will be different
[20:14] <Pernig> it will feel a little different
[20:14] <pepito> sort of sucks when I am sending a resume to a potential employer, for example, and formatting needs to be stable
[20:14] <Pernig> the inner workings are very different
[20:14] <Pernig> but i have found Ubuntu to be very stable
[20:14] <pepito> will it be as functional?
[20:14] <Pernig> i would say so
[20:14] <Pernig> if not more functional
[20:14] <Pernig> the difference between an OS and a package like openoffice
[20:15] <Pernig> your operating is the only thing that will access your PC
[20:15] <Pernig> once you have it running right, it will stay running right
[20:15] <Pernig> no one else is going to look at it from somewhere else and cause an incompatibility
[20:15] <Pernig> i know what you mean about the openoffice documents etc
[20:16] <Pernig> Ubuntu has a lot of resources being spent on bugfixing, compatibility etc
[20:17] <pepito> yeah that makes sense.   Honestly just knowing that there is an awesome group of people like this is hugely reassuring.
[20:17] <Pernig> have you chosen LTS?
[20:17] <pepito> lol  now you really get to see my IT ignorance.   what is LTS?
[20:17] <Pernig> sorry
[20:17] <Pernig> the long term support release of Ubuntu
[20:17] <pepito> I believe so.   I think it said something about three year or something like that?
[20:18] <pepito> I didn't know exactly what that meant but it sounded good
[20:18] <Pernig> 10.04
[20:18] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Feedback Welcome - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/07/feedback-welcome/
[20:19] <Pernig> it's ironic that now you have chosen a 'free' OS, you may well find you get better tech support!
[20:19] <pepito> no it looks like I downloaded 11 04
[20:19] <Pernig> 11.04 is pretty good
[20:19] <Pernig> how old is your computer out of interest?
[20:20] <jacobw> LTS releases are supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server
[20:21] <pepito_> sorry
[20:21] <jacobw> wb pepito_
[20:21] <pepito_> vista kicked me out mid chat
[20:21] <Pernig> did you get kicked off? :P
[20:21] <pepito_> in order to log me off and remind me of the almighty power of MS
[20:22] <pepito_> you mentioned the irony of better tech support and I fell off my chair laughing at the truth of it
[20:22] <jacobw> it is true
[20:22] <Pernig> we're not a bad bunch
[20:22] <jacobw> anyway, you want to intall Ubuntu on your laptop?
[20:23] <pepito_> I'd say you're aaaight so far.   yeah I am going to go through and try to read my scribbled handwriting, follow the process that Pernig laid out, and then I will be back in to let y'all know how it went
[20:23] <jacobw> assuming the laptop has function USB ports you should be able to make a bootable USB drive to install from
[20:23] <pepito_> no idea how long it will take, so if you're not here when I get back.... thanks again.
[20:24] <Pernig> no prob
[20:24] <jacobw> i haven't read all the exchanges just the original question
[20:24] <Pernig> let us know how you get on
[20:24] <Pernig> jacobw: i gave pepito a link to unetbootin homepage and showed how to use
[20:25] <jacobw> excellent :)
[20:25] <pepito_> will do... I need to download that first of all I think
[20:25] <pepito_> oh snap
[20:25] <Pernig> it's only a few MB
[20:25] <pepito_> can you give me that link again?
[20:25] <jacobw> install from usb is much faster than CD
[20:25] <Pernig> sure
[20:25] <jacobw> !unetbootin
[20:25] <Pernig> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:25] <Pernig> nope
[20:25] <Pernig> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:25] <Pernig> wrong glasses :P
[20:25] <pepito_> yeah that one
[20:26] <pepito_> okay it gives me options to download for windows, linux or mac
[20:26] <pepito_> lol
[20:26] <pepito_> I assume the windows one?
[20:26] <Pernig> yeah
[20:26] <pepito_> since I will be using it before I delete windows for ever and ever
[20:26] <pepito_> okay
[20:27] <Pernig> once you have Ubuntu on there is a convenient tool built in for making USB installation disks
[20:28] <pepito_> okay it is downlloaded.... here goes nothing.
[20:28] <Pernig> is the USB device showing up now?
[20:28] <Pernig> too late haha
[20:29] <Pernig> ooo new kernel and new version of KDE
[20:29] <Pernig> shame about the download size!
[20:29]  * jacobw is a lazy GNOME user
[20:30] <Pernig> to be fair, my main desktop activity is almost an _exact_ copy of the unity interface
[20:33] <jacobw> at least you'll have a shutdown button :P
[20:33] <Pernig> haha
[20:51] <GirlyGirl> bye
[21:07] <Myrtti> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGFGGGGHGHGHGHGHGHG
[21:07] <Myrtti> The Ryanair.com booking system is currently unavailable due to essential system maintenance.
[21:07] <Myrtti> We apologise for the inconvenience caused by this temporary system outage
[21:07] <Myrtti> FAIL
[21:07] <Pernig> oh dear
[21:08] <Pernig> a friend had problems with that
[21:08] <Pernig> the online checking thing
[21:08] <Pernig> checking in*
[21:09] <gord> with the way ryanair is, i'd be surprised if its up for more than a few minutes a day
[21:10] <Andres-kain> thinking of going anywhere nice?
[21:11] <Myrtti> second time a charm
[21:11] <Myrtti> yeah, UK
[21:11] <Myrtti> it's a loverly place I hear
[21:11] <stuphi> Anybody know what happened to avidemux in 11.10? It's gone! :-(
[21:12] <Pernig> stuphi: maybe there is not a package built for 11.10 yet
[21:12] <pepito> Well guess who is a fresh convert to ubuntu???  Me is, that's who!
[21:12] <Pernig> that was quick!
[21:13] <stuphi> Pernig: It's getting a bit late, aint it?
[21:13] <pepito> I feel like I am seeing the world in color for the first time!!!!
[21:13] <pepito> yes it was quick, and painless,  thanks to some awesome help
[21:14] <Andres-kain> i knew a grasshopper named pepito...
[21:14] <pepito> microsoft can go play under a bus.   This is awesome stuff
[21:14] <Andres-kain> uk is awsome. mysociety is awesome.
[21:14] <pepito> I was once a grasshopper til I learned ubuntu kung fu
[21:15] <Andres-kain> did you completely remove windows or dualbooting?
[21:16] <pepito> I completely removed it.   I saw no point in keeping it around when I would have to buy windows 7 in order to get back in and use it again
[21:17] <pepito> I do have a question already though...
[21:17] <Pernig> it's in cases like yours when you realise the value of the freedom of software
[21:17] <Pernig> a lot of people can't get their head around that part
[21:18] <Pernig> pepito: what's your question?
[21:18] <pepito> In the set up I told it to set the keyboard for US settings, naively thinking I was being smart.... I live in Germanz, laptop is German kezboard, and I am unfortunatelz alreadz adapted to the German kezboard as zou can see
[21:18] <Pernig> haha
[21:19] <Pernig> i'm not sure i can help you with that one
[21:19] <pepito> how can I go back and tell it to have a german kezboard setting, while maintaining english as the language
[21:19] <Pernig> but i'm sure someone in here can
[21:19] <Pernig> you are using 11.04 right?
[21:20] <pepito> lol well anyway it is a small price to pay for such a feeling of freedom.   yes it is 11.04
[21:21] <Myrtti> I'd be surprised if there isn't a way in System - Preferences to change the keyboard layout
[21:21] <Pernig> i will take a look for you, just need to recompile my virtualbox modules
[21:21] <Myrtti> well, that's atleast it would go in Classic Gnome
[21:21] <Pernig> pepito: is there a bar with icons that goes all the way down the left hand side of the screen?
[21:22] <pepito> yes
[21:23] <Pernig> http://www.mygeekopinions.com/2011/05/how-to-change-keyboard-layout-in-ubuntu.html
[21:23] <Pernig> ok
[21:23] <pepito> lol
[21:24] <Pernig> if you just press the icon in the top left
[21:24] <Pernig> type control center in there
[21:24] <Pernig> the icon should come up
[21:24] <Pernig> it should only change the layout, not the language
[21:24] <pepito> you know, I can build furniture and hang a door like nobodys business...  I say that to comfort myself as I sit in awe of you guys' prowess in this IT geek stuff
[21:25] <popey> thats handy, I hate hanging doors
[21:25] <Pernig> tbh you have the aptitude and the right attitude to be able to do it
[21:26] <Andres-kain> pepito i swap spanish and english. press the meta key (what was your windows key) and type keyboard
[21:27] <Andres-kain> from there there are two optios, sadly not at pc now so cant help any further
[21:27] <pepito> my jaw seriously dropped at the meta key function
[21:27] <pepito> that is BITCHIN
[21:27] <Pernig> it's very handy
[21:27] <Andres-kain> but you can add another configuration
[21:28] <Pernig> if you hold it down you can use keys to go to your favourite programs on the left
[21:28] <pepito> and that was incredibly easy.  I added german, so now I should be able to switch back and forth I assume, right_
[21:28] <Andres-kain> and have a hotkey shortcut or an icon on top right to switch. or both
[21:28] <pepito> whoa whoa
[21:28] <stuphi> Pants! Avidemux has been removed from 11.10 :-( bug 831096
[21:29] <pepito> hotkeys is techie jargon there
[21:29] <Andres-kain> sorry.
[21:30] <pepito> lol no I should be apologizing....  I am just to busy gazing at this awesomeness that is my new OS
[21:31] <Andres-kain> hotkey for me is using key combinations to do stuff. like alt+ctl+right arrow (or left)
[21:31] <Andres-kain> yeah, i never got over the awsomness. it doent go away.
[21:32] <Andres-kain> hits me very hard everytime i have to get back to work with windows.
[21:33] <Pernig> Andres-kain: same
[21:33] <Andres-kain> by the way celebrateubuntu videos in youtube channel look very clean and well made.
[21:33] <pepito> I just discovered that I can set up timed breaks, to keep me from getting lost and spending hours on this thing, and it will even lock the screen *but onlz if I want* to enforce it
[21:33] <Pernig> for instance when i want to checksum a download on a friend's computer or do something that i can do very quickly on the command line
[21:34] <pepito> so hotkeys, okay I am getting distracted
[21:34] <pepito> I can program hotkeys for certain functions, sort of like speed dial phone numbers in my cell, is that the concept?
[21:35] <Pernig> yes
[21:36] <Andres-kain> yes
[21:36] <Andres-kain> press  meta and type compose (i recall)
[21:36] <Andres-kain> it will show you what you have.
[21:37] <Andres-kain> i would leave defaults
[21:37] <pepito> compose shows no results
[21:37] <Andres-kain> also hold meta a little longer and your icons on the left will show numbers
[21:38] <Andres-kain> dang, sorry about that must be another word
[21:38] <pepito> you mean when I am clicking on it?   tried it, not seeing anything...
[21:39] <Andres-kain> sorry again, working from memory and in bed here.
[21:39] <pepito> lol no worries
[21:39] <Andres-kain> so simple thing... hold meta (the windows key) and number 1
[21:40] <Andres-kain> that should open your firfox or whatever you have on the top of the list to the left
[21:41] <Andres-kain> try meta+2,3,4....
[21:42] <Andres-kain> is that working for you?
[21:42] <Andres-kain> not very important really i like clicking (not much of a power user)
[21:43] <pepito> sorry I left the computer for a second
[21:43] <pepito> okay meta key and number one
[21:44] <pepito> wait so I click it and press 1?
[21:44] <Pernig> just hold down the meta key itself
[21:44] <Pernig> and don't let go until you have pressed a number
[21:44] <pepito> oh snap
[21:45] <pepito> now I get it
[21:45] <Andres-kain> press keyboard button with the windows drawing on it.
[21:45] <Andres-kain> cool.
[21:45] <pepito> the meta key the meta key
[21:45] <Pernig> aye
[21:45] <pepito> now I am up to speed
[21:45] <Andres-kain> great!
[21:45] <pepito> that is friggin awesome
[21:46] <Andres-kain> do you know about multiple desktops?
[21:46] <pepito> no.  should I be sitting down?
[21:46] <Andres-kain> with ubuntu you get 4 for the price of one.
[21:47] <Andres-kain> and the first one is free.
[21:47] <Joeb454> Andres-kain: you know you can increase that number, right? I have 9
[21:47] <pepito> lol seriously I can't contain my exuberance here.    There is a beauty in this that money cannot buy
[21:47] <pepito> so what is the benefit of multiple desktops?  how would that work?
[21:48] <Andres-kain> yep you can have as many desktops with different apps running on them as you like. by default 4
[21:48] <Andres-kain> i use only 2.
[21:49] <pepito> okay, but why not just have the various apps open on one desktop?   I can run multiple apps on one desktop like I did in windows before, right?
[21:49] <Andres-kain> yes
[21:49] <Andres-kain> sorry typing on mobile phne.. not too quick
[21:49] <pepito> I am in no hurry
[21:49] <pepito> take your time
[21:50] <pepito> I have tons of questions and lots of excitement
[21:50] <Andres-kain> advantage is you cn have one desktop for worlk another for play
[21:50] <Andres-kain> another for your music...
[21:51] <Andres-kain> i didn't make sense of it until i statrs using it
[21:51] <pepito> okay it sounds like it is worth learning about
[21:52] <pepito> sorry guys I am going to be on here picking your brains until I either fall asleep exhausted and happy or somebody kicks me out
[21:52] <Joeb454> pepito: as an example, I currently have 5 workspaces in use - 1 for web, 1 for IRC, 1 for IM, 1 for emails and 1 for music
[21:52] <Andres-kain> so on the left-handed colum of icons go to the bottom ther should be some grey dull looking ones
[21:52] <Joeb454> it keeps them nice and self contained
[21:52] <Pernig> no prob pepito
[21:52] <pepito> every time a turn around something else piques my curiousity
[21:52] <Pernig> i'm not going to bed for another hour yet
[21:53] <Andres-kain> click on the grey ones.
[21:53] <pepito> okay andres-kain I am seeing it
[21:53] <pepito> HOLY BATSHIZ
[21:53] <Andres-kain> yep.
[21:53] <pepito> whoa whoa whoa
[21:53] <Andres-kain> found it
[21:54] <pepito> YES
[21:54] <Andres-kain> i think holding ctl+alt+ arrowkeys cycles through them.
[21:55] <pepito> okay that is the coolest thing since Vanilla Ice
[21:55] <MartijnVdS> *dun dun dun dundundun dun*
[21:55] <pepito> lol
[21:55] <Andres-kain> you can grag windows between the desktops (called workspace)
[21:55] <pepito> grag?
[21:55] <Andres-kain> drag*
[21:55] <pepito> drag?
[21:55] <MartijnVdS> drag
[21:55] <pepito> ok
[21:55] <Andres-kain> yes
[21:56] <Andres-kain> :)
[21:56] <pepito> no kidding.  wow, okay.  when I shut off the computer it all goes back to square one though, right?
[21:56] <MartijnVdS> Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Arrow = move current window along to new workspace
[21:57] <Andres-kain> you on live usb?
[21:57] <Andres-kain> live cd?
[21:57] <pepito> or can I start it up and already have all four set up with specific intended uses
[21:58] <pepito> if you are asking what I think you're asking, I installed it on my harddrive.   I am a committed user
[21:58] <Andres-kain> oh, i get it. you probably can but i do not know how.
[21:58] <pepito> by square one I mean... okay yeah we on the same page
[21:58] <Andres-kain> well done.
[21:58] <pepito> I am going to be shouting about this all over FB
[21:59] <Andres-kain> there is something called start up manager. but i would get to that yer.
[21:59] <pepito> I think I might even go graffitti it on a Microsoft billboard somewhere
[21:59] <pepito> what is this ubuntu one?
[22:00] <Andres-kain> tried that. just gets you into trouble and kills the nice linux brand.
[22:00] <Andres-kain> your cloud (ubuntu one)
[22:00] <Andres-kain> and music streamer to your phone
[22:00] <pepito> hmmm sounds dreary
[22:00] <Andres-kain> and browser sync
[22:01] <pepito> is it more for smartphone users?
[22:01] <Andres-kain> and ...
[22:01] <Andres-kain> not necesarily
[22:02] <pepito> so you wouldnt reccommend the ubuntu one?
[22:02] <Andres-kain> you use fb right? say you want to share a pdf document
[22:02] <pepito> okay...
[22:02] <Andres-kain> i really do recomend it.
[22:02] <Andres-kain> the pdf doc is in your hdd but not in internet.
[22:03] <pepito> oh oh  you were responding to me graffiti comment.  sorry, sometimes hard to follow the flow of conversation
[22:03] <pepito> okay I follow you
[22:04] <Andres-kain> you put file in ubuntu one folder then right click and choose share via url. copy that link
[22:05] <Andres-kain> to fb. and all your fb contacts can download it.
[22:05] <Andres-kain> did i explain myself?
[22:06] <pepito> aha okay yes that makes sense even to a slow feller like myself
[22:06] <Andres-kain> ok. do you know about software centre?
[22:07] <pepito> no.  am I going to have another endorphin rush? :)
[22:08] <Andres-kain> more imporantly: do you remember your password? i forgot mine the first time.
[22:08] <pepito> I am also wondering about "empathy messaging" and also questions about email syncing....
[22:08] <pepito> yes password is good
[22:08] <Andres-kain> software centre is one of the icons to the left that looks like a shopping bag
[22:09] <Andres-kain> filled with stuff.
[22:09] <pepito> i see it
[22:09] <pepito> it looks like christmas come early
[22:09] <pepito> hows it work?
[22:10] <Andres-kain> ok. if you want to install something go there first.
[22:10] <Andres-kain> it is safe, mainained and easier to use than the windows installers.
[22:11] <pepito> install something meaning, downloading anything?
[22:11] <Andres-kain> just as easily you can uninstall in the same way.
[22:11] <pepito> oh wait okay I see
[22:12] <pepito> yes the windows stuff was kind of a pain in the ass
[22:12] <Pernig> it takes care of the downloading for you
[22:13] <Andres-kain> yes, and 99% is free of cost.
[22:13] <Andres-kain> ok you mentioned epifany?
[22:13] <pepito> okay
[22:13] <Andres-kain> how are you chatting now? different computer?
[22:13] <pepito> I am browsing through it right now.     I mentioned endorphin rush, close enough to the same thing
[22:13] <Andres-kain> web?
[22:14] <pepito> web
[22:14] <Andres-kain> cool.
[22:14] <Andres-kain> install a simple game to give it a try.
[22:17] <pepito> okay it asks my password, which is cool
[22:17] <pepito> nobody can download crap without asking me first
[22:17] <pepito> I like
[22:17] <pepito> got to take off for a second, brb
[22:17] <Andres-kain> pepito, i'm going to have to leave you but i want to say a few things: epifany is for chat: irc, facebookchat, googlechat/talk,... gwibber is for facebook, twitter,...
[22:19] <Andres-kain> evolution is for email like outlook but a bit easier i think.
[22:20] <Andres-kain> once you have them set up you can access all from top right (notificatio area)
[22:20] <pepito> well I can't thank you enough, all of you.   I am going to be in here quite a bit I think so I will look forward to seeing you around
[22:20] <Andres-kain> you can set it up from there.
[22:20] <pepito> okay I will play around and see what I figure out.
[22:21] <Andres-kain> i normally use ubuntu-uk mailing list. it is a bit slower but i like it better.
[22:21] <pepito> it is asking me about adding the game to the "launcher".  what is the launcher
[22:21] <Andres-kain> enjoy your freedom.
[22:22] <pepito> thanks Andres-kain
[22:22] <Andres-kain> launcher is th list of the left
[22:22] <pepito> aha.  okay
[22:22] <Pernig> later pepito
[22:22] <Pernig> it's nice to hear such a positive first impression
[22:22] <Andres-kain> you can drag and reorder them as you like.
[22:22] <pepito> are you checking out too Pernig?    its nice to finally discover something that can give me such a fantastic experience!
[22:23] <pepito> it might just be the contrast in comparison to Windows experiences, but I think it is the bomb
[22:23] <Pernig> aye, gonna jump into bed and switch to the phone
[22:23] <pepito> well I wish all a good night.   I will play around a bit and then climb into bed myself
[22:24] <Andres-kain> the best thing yet to come: update manager
[22:24] <pepito> lol
[22:24] <pepito> cant wait.   quick question, how is the libreoffice compatibility with my existing word docs?
[22:25] <Andres-kain> updates all your software un one place. and does it for ...
[22:25] <Andres-kain> comparibility is great. even macros.
[22:25] <Andres-kain> i am not a power user on any
[22:25] <pepito> okay it just keeps getting better
[22:26] <Andres-kain> on the plus side librewritter can save to pdf and html out of the box.
[22:26] <Andres-kain> unlike word.
[22:27] <pepito> cool
[22:28] <pepito> i love how, when I hover over something, an explanation pops up that is actually well written and very easy to grasp even for no knowers like me
[22:29] <Andres-kain> ohh i have a good one for you then.
[22:30] <pepito> lol okay I am sitting down now
[22:30] <Andres-kain> if you have audio files and you hover (hover without clicking) over the file icon it plays the audio with out opening a player
[22:30] <Andres-kain> hover the mouse i mean.
[22:31] <pepito> no kidding?????
[22:31] <pepito> I got to try this
[22:31] <Andres-kain> so if it says track3 you quickly know what song it is.
[22:32] <pepito> this is the genius of open source
[22:32] <Andres-kain> ok love doing this for longer but i wake up at 6 tomorrow.
[22:32] <pepito> hey get to bed already
[22:33] <pepito> thanks for the tips
[22:33] <Andres-kain> glad to help! good night!
[22:33] <pepito> see you around