[05:15] morning everyone [05:33] msg HazRPG morning ! [05:35] lol .. morning knightwise [06:37] morning all [06:42] morning! [06:42] mornign AlanBell [06:42] happy birthday btw AlanBell :) [06:42] wasnt it your bday this week ? [06:42] nope! [06:42] darn , my bad [06:43] hehe [06:43] i thought i saw somethin on facebook [06:43] mid June [06:43] Pendulum and czajkowski have recently got less young [06:43] knightwise: I'm sure you AlanBell would still like a gift though for his immaginary bday [06:44] good thinking GirlyGirl [06:46] GirlyGirl: he should be so lucky ! [07:01] http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/ now accepting pre-orders for Oneiric CDs [07:06] AlanBell: worth updating the artwork on that page? [07:07] Morning all [07:07] just about :) [07:07] would be surprised if many people noticed the updated artwork, but I will do it. At the moment it just surfaces images from shop.ubuntu.com [07:08] ahhh [07:09] in fact, I am lazy, I will wait for the store to do the thumbnailing for me [07:25] Morning all === aasfsdf is now known as GirlyGirl === GirlyGirl is now known as Guest66566 [07:59] hello everyone [07:59] turning coldafter that little hot spell [08:00] it is October after all === Guest66566 is now known as Girly-Girl [08:18] http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2011/10/04/ubuntu-is-closing-for-the-winter-to-take-a-sabbatical/ oh no! [08:20] Morning peeps [08:22] * bigcalm scratches his head [08:22] * DJones offers bigcalm a nit comb [08:22] Ta, but I really just need a wash [08:22] ;) [08:23] Thats good news, much healthier [08:30] Aloha [08:31] Hi [08:32] Morning czajkowski [08:32] can I just say time sheets are a pain in the arse [08:33] Happy Friday, everyone! [08:34] Agreed, thankfully after doing them for 23 years in previous jobs, I don't need to do them in this one :) [08:34] wait, its friday? wooo [08:35] * Laney gets down [08:38] Doesn't Friday just mean its teh start of the overtime weekend catching up on the things people didn't have time to do in the normal week [08:38] DJones: you've just described my life :( [08:39] Heh, I was going to say "catching up on the things that people couldn't do because they were too busy playing minecraft on works time" [08:40] Oh wait, thats me :) [08:40] :D [08:40] Good job we've got a rubbish computer system that makes me wait for between 30-60 minutes running some reports === Girly-Girl is now known as GirlyGirl [08:41] Ug === GirlyGirl is now known as Girly-Girl === Girly-Girl is now known as GirlyGirl === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 20th October 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | Ada Lovelace Day http://findingada.com/ [08:48] * AlanBell waves danfish in the direction of http://www.ehi.co.uk/events/ehi-live/skunkworks/ [08:48] This is a bit of a silly question.. but does the partition type for swap actually need to be swap (82)? I've always set it so, so never found out! [08:57] kirrus: not really [08:57] kirrus: it makes it easier for things to "guess" what the partition type is meant to be [08:58] grand, thanks gordonjcp :) [08:59] thanks AlanBell :) [09:17] good morning everyone. [09:37] knightwise: morning dude! \o I think you forgot the / in front of that msg :P [09:37] morning HazRPG :) [09:37] AlanBell: Ah, mid june is your birthday... much the same as me then! [09:38] AlanBell: its great having a summer birthday isn't it :) [09:38] brobostigon: morning dude \o [09:38] o/ [09:38] august 13th ♥ [09:39] although recent events have made a part of my oggcamp birthday raffle prize redundant... [09:40] Not the penguin?! [09:41] no... I just have to give back my laptop [09:41] :-( [09:41] :( [09:42] the axe finally swung for good [10:07] morning all [10:08] * czajkowski hugs Myrtti [10:29] Something for the weekend... http://news.techeye.net/mobile/oxford-uni-puts-the-large-hadron-collider-into-android [10:31] TheOpenSourcerer: Or you could give https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VakjZqso8Ik a try. [10:32] oooh [10:38] popey: nice blog post, clicking from FB open in chrome I get a 404 error as it puts www remove the www and it works. odd [10:40] popey: your mod_rewrite rules need correcting in .htaccess :) [10:41] ugh [10:41] help me fix it :D [10:42] Myrtti: Just just reading backlog, you share the same birthday as me [10:44] RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^popey.com$ [NC] [10:44] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.popey.com/$1 [R,L] [10:44] Try that [10:44] its lighttpd not apache [10:44] No idea then :) [10:45] Actually, it'd want to be the reverse as well I guess [10:45] * bigcalm goes back to giving mobile devices some love [10:45] try now? [10:46] i'v decided i hate gmails priority inbox, it just collects google+ messages and ignores all my important email [10:46] 404 [10:47] * popey has deleted the fb post [10:47] stupid facebook [10:47] gord: really? Mine ignores all my google+ messages :) Maybe google's algorithm just thinks you put more priority on them [10:47] I have g+ all archived to a folder and bypass inbox [10:48] i have most of my stuff archived well so i don't really even need priority inbox [10:49] * brobostigon doenloads lhsee. [10:50] I already voted \o/ [10:50] I wanted to vote for czajkowski. You put the candidate you want at the bottom of the list, right? [10:51] Heh [10:52] :D [10:53] 11 is bigger so that must be better [10:53] I gave everyone 11 [10:53] bigcalm: so Steph rang me this morning and so you're aware the lighthouse is available 9-5 not 6 it is open to the cinema at 5:30 so it stops being University property at that point [10:53] very nice 3d graphics in lhsee, [10:53] Probably need to be nice to czajkowski, she's going to getting stressed ahead of her 6am date tomorrow [10:57] Aha [10:57] That's fine. An early bunk off is something I can cope with [10:57] davmor2: cheers [11:02] finally got my Oneiric working on my lenovo laptop, in the end, after a week of not getting the gui to load, and updating via Ctrl+Alt+F1 I added a new user and changed to admin in new user and the Unity finally loaded. Cant get Ubuntu one to synch tomboy notes, really annoying [11:02] thats a known bug [11:03] ah, that is good to know, thanks popey, will stop trying now [11:03] bigcalm: yeah I thought I'd let you know as soon as I did though [11:03] Rally the troops and get more people to come along :D [11:03] its very much like Mac os isnt it, but not quite as much functionality as mac [11:04] I have a macbook pro, and I was surprised at how much like the os Unity is [11:05] bigcalm: Will be [11:05] scoundrel50a: it is similar [11:06] scoundrel50a: in the same way that other releases are similar to windows [11:06] bigcalm: we got a month of advertising this time rather that 6 days :) [11:06] Hehe [11:06] Though I think the coffee rounds will get expensive ;) [11:06] popey: Having the mac os, does help with getting used to Unity I think [11:07] popey: it makes more sense [11:07] I should find out how well Unity copes with 3 screens [11:07] popey: I wasnt getting used to it, until I got the macbook [11:08] this lenovo laptop is amazing, I recommend getting one to anybody [11:08] which model is it? [11:09] G550-6 [11:09] the cheaper one, but it works well with Unity, and the support is amazing from linux emporium [11:10] It looks like a fairly bog standard laptop to me :) [11:10] plus it works with Ubuntu Classic and Gnome, I found out why I lost the window controls with Gnome it was in the settings [11:11] but a better graphics card than I have had till now [11:11] and this had 11.04 and 11.10 preinstalled without windows [11:11] scoundrel50a: I don't think unity is that much like the OS X dock - the taskbar in Windows 7 groups windows into 1 icon by default too [11:12] I didnt think it was like windows 7 at all, must have missed something, but very rarely use windows at all [11:12] it's very Windows 7y [11:13] just for updating my phone [11:13] Some games, TV firmware unpacking, updating my Logitech Harmony [11:13] I think it's the way quite a few UI's seem to be going now [11:14] once you use it more, it does make more sense, I do like the Classic version though, that is even better [11:15] I prefer unity, personally. I think that's because one of the features I liked most on OS X is spotlight, but I never really found anything similar for ubuntu...and the windows start menu wasn't the same. Unity manages to do that, and in a nicer way, IMO [11:17] [Alan Pope] Voting in a new Ubuntu Community Council Begins - http://popey.com/blog/2011/10/07/voting-in-a-new-ubuntu-community-council-begins/ [11:17] is there support for installing ubuntu on macs? I was wondering about doing that sometime, is it complicated? [11:19] depends on the age of the mac [11:19] scoundrel50a: Well, some stuff might not work; the hardware isn't built to run with Ubuntu. [11:19] ah [11:20] scoundrel50a: I once dealt with one that had no wireless detected by Ubuntu. [11:20] oh, that isnt good, I have an ethernet connection, but never use it [11:21] Buy a Thinkpad or something. [11:21] Unity does use the battery up very quickly though [11:22] scoundrel50a: Actually, that's probably more related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131 [11:22] Ubuntu bug 760131 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) "Power consumption raised significantly in natty" [High,Fix committed] [11:23] scoundrel50a: I managed to get Natty installed on my Macbook (late 2008), not sure I did it right though, as I screwed the boot on it [11:23] Apple still have it in for repair now :P [11:25] oh dear, how long has it been in for repair? [11:27] they said 3-5 days, but they've had it for 10 days now [11:27] I notice that I havent had any bugs appear since logging in today, in 11.10, had a huge update this morning, and the compiz bug stopped showing [11:27] do they normally take that long? [11:29] no, normally they've been really good. I've had to deal with apple customer relations once before, so I might email them, largely because when I called to ask about it yesterday the guy that answered the phone was quite rude [11:32] that is unusual, I have not had problems with them so far, they have really good.....sorry to hear that [11:33] This might be of interest to anybody who uses their android phone for book reading http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/07/google_books_app_launches_uk/ [11:37] oh, I usually use Kindle, but will have to look out for that [11:38] I use FBReader, but I'll give it a go, review comments don't sound to brilliant for it [11:41] battery running out, have to log off, connector over other siden of room [11:41] by for now [12:16] davmor2, remind me about the lighthouse thing again closer to the time, its only half an hour away or so on the train :) [12:19] gord: I thought you were further up north than that [12:21] davmor2, crewe, not that far away, but to be honest the rail links here are great, you hop on the fast virgin train and can get anywhere within two hours [12:22] gord: oh man I thought you were much further north than that :) [12:26] I have proof davmor2 really wuvs me deep deep down!!! [12:27] czajkowski: I haz proof there is alcohol in this dandelion and burdock [12:28] bigcalm: see the numbers are increasing for the next one already :) [12:29] \o/ [12:30] Announce it to the lists next? [12:30] bigcalm: of course I feel sorry for czajkowski if me, you and gord are all in the same room [12:30] Hehe [12:31] We'll be too busy taking the piss out of each other to annoy czajkowski ;) [12:31] bigcalm: I know she won't feel the love at all that's what I mean [12:32] Ah [12:32] bigcalm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski#Testimonials_about_my_work_in_the_Ubuntu_Community 1st comment davmor2 [12:32] see he wuvs me! [12:33] czajkowski: sounds like a different davmor2 to me ;) [12:34] bigcalm: I repeat czajkowski: I haz proof there is alcohol in this dandelion and burdock [12:34] moooooooooooooooooooo [12:34] Haha [12:34] popey: you didn't say that emmet is standing again [12:34] ps GREETINGS! [12:34] oops [12:35] yes i did [12:35] How was the pub lunch? [12:35]

Emmet Hikory

[12:35] popey: ^^^ [12:35] no like this [12:35] "Daniel and Lyz are standing again" [12:35] well [12:35] its tricky [12:35] we haven't actually spoken to him [12:35] so thought best to add him anyway [12:35] hah [12:35] been there [12:36] jussi: crabbies and a fish finger sandwich [12:36] popey: nom? [12:36] very [12:38] Hey Hey W Are Not the Monkees [12:38] What a strange 80s rap track [12:38] s/W/We [12:44] * czajkowski hugs davmor2 [12:46] bigcalm: strange 80's rap would be morris major and the minors with the stutter rap [12:51] woo, at my apartment ♥ === Lcawte is now known as Guest74670 [12:59] Myrtti: what country are you calling home right now? [13:30] stupid dput not working behind a stupid proxy [13:30] bah! [13:43] AlanBell: whatever where majority of my socks reside [13:44] popey: thanks for doing the blog post, we're all using it to share and link to [13:44] I've yet to wear socks yet [13:44] only then will I admit it's cold [13:46] hehe [13:47] Great PR: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/10/ubuntu-powers-hp-public-cloud/ [13:47] hate wearing socs [13:47] oh also turns out I've a sprained ankle but didnt notice as taking enough meds for my back not to notice [13:47] go me [13:47] I am full of fail this week === carl__ is now known as carl0s- === Guest74670 is now known as Lcawte [14:24] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-15213346 [14:26] So sad [14:27] i got home from work yesterday to find some chestnuts on my desk :D [14:27] they have huge chestnut trees at the kids school [14:29] hmm, the only mp3 on my laptop is nyancat.mp3 [14:30] popey: (and anybody else on G+) have you noticed that you'll get the notification either via the phone app or web about 3 hours before the email? Or is that just me? [14:30] yes [14:30] It appears to be the case, yes [14:43] I don't know why, but that bugs me. You'd think they'd be able to email you sooner than that [14:45] are the emails batched, contain multiple notifications for the last 3 hours? [14:45] makes sense if so, to not flood you with emails [14:47] czajkowski: I've told akgraner you're being nice to me publicly she just laughed [14:49] * czajkowski goes down on one knee to davmor2 I think you're just great [14:50] czajkowski: Get up you creep ;) [14:50] i see the candidates are being especially nice to everyone [14:52] kirrus: now you mention it, I think they might be [14:52] popey: think it'll last long? [14:53] popey: I wouldn't mind but I only said she was gobby [15:08] anyone on BT? [15:08] for broadband? [15:09] yeah [15:09] yup [15:10] Seeker`: can you access http://www.newzbin.com ? [15:10] BT were ordered to block it, but i've read no further news [15:11] err, not on a BT connection at present [15:11] dang [15:18] rascal999, in news today [15:18] They are appealing it [15:18] So doubt it will be banned yet [15:30] popey: I'm alaways nice to popey on the 1st friday of the month [15:30] after that it's game on [15:30] and now I've no Moodoo I've a gord [15:30] but I'm gentle with gorl [15:30] *gord [15:30] gorl for short [15:31] WHAT!? [15:31] there's a _pattern_ to this madness!? [15:32] yeah, but observing it changes it [15:32] * popey blinks [15:32] * popey likes blinking [15:32] Weeping Angels like popey [15:33] it'll be back to normal come tomorrow [15:33] and I shall be back to poking kicking and throttling davmor2 [15:33] then teasing gord about nice foods I have till moodoo comes back [15:33] simples [15:33] *squeek* [15:38] stupid meerkat add [15:38] Oh dear. My android tablet is telling a website that it's an iPad [15:38] * bigcalm sighs [15:45] maybe it is an ipad and you are just confused? [15:47] czajkowski: in that case, I may just tie your hair to your chair in preparation for your departure :) [15:47] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1283/detail/ dont forget to register if you're coming along [16:31] Anybody here use a Twinhan USB DVB tuner card with 11.10? [16:31] let me check the brand on mine [16:31] This happens with mine:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/704076/ [16:31] [532177.990328] dvb-usb: WideView WT-220U PenType Receiver (Typhoon/Freecom) successfully initialized and connected. [16:32] stuphi: Ooh, shiny crash [16:32] stuphi: you'll probably want to report a bug for that [16:32] MartijnVdS: Any suggestion what package to report against? [16:33] stuphi: the kernel, let me find a HOWTO [16:33] stuphi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies [16:33] MartijnVdS: Thanks for that. [16:59] gord: you going to the release party? [17:00] davmor2, nope, too far for me [17:00] I still have a horrible feeling that we'll be working on a release then, but I'm still hoping [17:19] davmor2, work on release *at* the party [17:20] gord: it's at the cask wifi never works at the cask [17:21] davmor2, mobile internet? [17:21] there ahahahahahahahahahaha [17:21] unless i'm out of the country, i don't even bother using wifi out and about these days [17:57] terry gilliam, on the one show, :) [18:07] waterponies \o/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15215335 [18:16] brobostigon, no idea who he is [18:17] zleap: director, and member and animator for monty python. [18:17] ah [18:28] Evening all! [18:28] evening popey [18:28] evening [18:28] not long to go [18:36] popey: Are you now a retired council member now? [18:37] * popey puts his feet up [18:37] yeah [18:37] (no) [18:37] staying on till newbs are voted in [18:37] heh [18:39] I would have thought the vote would be before your term ended so they'd take over as one term ended [18:41] DJones: this is still the dreamy oneiric cycle, administrative processes will be precise next time [18:49] Impressed that we'll have an installfest three days after release [18:49] thats brilliant work [19:03] popey, i want to do stuff here in South Devon but no one seems to be ever avialbel to help when i mention it on the list [19:03] as in dclug list [19:18] czajkowski: Boo!!! [19:45] hello all! I am having some major issues and could really use some help from people who know what the heck they [19:45] are doing [19:47] I bought my laptop from an aquaintance (i wont say friend) who had a friend of hers wipe the hard drive and install his windows vista ultimate on it... problem is I didnt know this and the thirty day registration window ran out [19:48] and when I tried to get the product key from him and enter it, it says the product key has already been used.... anyway long story short, I have decided to go with Ubuntu and would like to install it on my computer [19:49] the problem is that I am accessing the internet through the windows vista "limited access" feature which means it allows me to get on the internet (although it kicks me off every thirty minutes or so) [19:49] and I downloaded ubuntu to my hard drive, but I have noooooo idea how to install it and get an operating system up and running [19:50] I am severely clueless when it comes to IT stuff, and I am really really hoping someone here has a clue how I can install ubuntu from my harddrive [19:51] I am not able to access my USB drive or my CD burner in order to install Ubuntu the way it is explained on the website [19:51] Can anyone give me any good advice? [19:55] anybody there? [19:57] o/ pepito [19:57] hi pernig [19:57] howcome you can't access a cd burner? [19:58] because all that windows vista will allow me to do is access the internet [19:58] hmmm [19:58] and USB drives will not show up? [19:59] there si a black screen with a small notice in the corner saying that the version of windows has not been confirmed as genuine [19:59] I can't see or click on ANYthing [19:59] I have the download window open... [19:59] oh dear [19:59] right [19:59] since I just finished downloading ubuntu [20:00] when you turn the computer on [20:00] wait until the boot screen goes off [20:00] and I clicked on the downloaded file to try to open it, but it just says that there is no program to open this .iso file [20:00] then tap F8 a few times [20:00] okay ..... [20:00] you will get a dialogue with things like "last known good configuration, repair this computer and safe mode" [20:00] what you want is safe mode [20:00] okay... taking notes... [20:01] you _should_ be able to access CDs and USB devices from there [20:01] okay,.. that is good to know.... the question I still have is.. [20:01] fire away [20:02] how do I get the file from my download file where it is located now into a USB drive? [20:02] will I be able to access the download from this safe mode? [20:02] you will be able to access the download [20:02] but you probably won't be able to initiate new downloads [20:02] so download the things you need now [20:02] i would recommend a tool called unetbootin [20:03] okay, unetbootin [20:03] http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [20:03] is it pretty intuitive to use? [20:03] it's simple enough [20:03] that screenshot that you see on the unetbootin homepage [20:03] you choose the radio button marked 'diskimage [20:03] ' [20:03] and press the three dots [20:04] and choose your Ubuntu iso that you have already downloaded [20:04] furiously scribbling notes.... [20:04] then for your drive, choose the USB drive you have plugged in (format this before you run unetbootin) [20:05] okay that triggers question [20:06] formating the USB drive involves...? (sorry I am really IT clueless) [20:06] go to the start button in the bottom left [20:06] click that [20:07] then click computer [20:07] your drive will be in the section for 'removeable devices' [20:07] will the start button be there in the "safe mode"? [20:07] or something like that [20:07] yep [20:07] ok [20:07] then right click on the drive you want to format [20:07] it brings up a menu [20:07] and format is one of the options [20:07] there are a few options there but again quite straightforward [20:08] i usually tick 'quick format' or it takes quite a while [20:09] okay I think I got it... when I format the USB drive I assume whatever is on it will be deleted? [20:09] yeah [20:09] back up your things first if possible [20:09] this will also be the case when you install Ubuntu on your computer's internal hard drive [20:09] okay [20:09] I really appreciate this by the way [20:10] I mean I REALLY appreciate it [20:10] no prob [20:10] can I pick your brain for just a few seconds longer? [20:10] i think we were all where you are at one stage [20:10] of course [20:11] I made the decision to do Ubuntu partly because of the ridiculous cost of windows 7 and partly because I find Microsoft's methods.... diabolical to put it nicely.... but mostly because I believe in the concept of open source [20:12] I have been reading up on alternative economies, Sacred Economics and etc..... anyway my point is I have a strong desire to work with Ubuntu [20:12] and had already started down this path with OPen office... [20:12] the question comes now... [20:12] ok [20:13] will Ubuntu be a functional system? I mean, open office is great in many ways, but when it comes to interfacing with word users, I find that little details like formatting are slightly different... this [20:14] of course it will be different [20:14] it will feel a little different [20:14] sort of sucks when I am sending a resume to a potential employer, for example, and formatting needs to be stable [20:14] the inner workings are very different [20:14] but i have found Ubuntu to be very stable [20:14] will it be as functional? [20:14] i would say so [20:14] if not more functional [20:14] the difference between an OS and a package like openoffice [20:15] your operating is the only thing that will access your PC [20:15] once you have it running right, it will stay running right [20:15] no one else is going to look at it from somewhere else and cause an incompatibility [20:15] i know what you mean about the openoffice documents etc [20:16] Ubuntu has a lot of resources being spent on bugfixing, compatibility etc [20:17] yeah that makes sense. Honestly just knowing that there is an awesome group of people like this is hugely reassuring. [20:17] have you chosen LTS? [20:17] lol now you really get to see my IT ignorance. what is LTS? [20:17]