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nhainesNOTE TO CANONICAL RELEASE TEAM: I've just burned the Oneiric daily CD, so it's okay to put the Release Candidate up now.00:24
Darkwing:D00:27
nhainesWho can we harass about this when it doesn't happen, anyway?00:28
nhainesAnd by harrass I mean "gently remind."00:29
Darkwing:D00:29
DarkwingKate Stewart.00:30
nhainesProbably.00:30
nhainesIf she's smart, she stays off IRC though.  :)00:30
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pleia2received our copies of the official ubuntu book :)01:19
DarkwingHow many copies?01:19
pleia22 copies for the team! and a copy of ubuntu unleased too (I asked for it)01:20
DarkwingWoot!01:20
DarkwingI have a few copies of Ubuntu for Non-Geeks01:21
pleia2I'll bring one copy down to scale, and my copy of the last edition of the official ubuntu book (been meaning to get rid of it)01:21
DarkwingThat should be fun.01:22
* pleia2 will probably end up with a full suitcase of stuff to bring down again01:23
pleia2speaking of which, need to pack for philly now01:23
DarkwingLOL If you want, I can send up some money and you can mail some stuff down.01:23
DarkwingSo, you're not too full.01:23
pleia2no worries, I get free baggage with star alliance01:23
pleia2I'll just make mjoseph carry it01:24
pleia2<301:24
DarkwingLOL epic idea. :)01:24
pleia2ok, packing now for real01:24
DarkwingHave fun!01:24
DarkwingThis is a pain.01:24
DarkwingWhy is the android server where they keep the SDK updates and APIs so ssllooww?01:58
nhainesDarkwing: because people like you keep refreshing trying to get the Ice Cream Sandwich update as soon as it comes out!02:17
DarkwingLOL No, I'm actually reinstalling the development.02:17
DarkwingI just got a new Laptop with a SSD so, I'm getting things back together.02:17
nhainesdd?02:18
Darkwingdd?02:18
nhainesakk: if you had a new computer, would you set it up using dd?02:19
DarkwingOh yeah, dd... Normally I would but, I had to change a few things02:19
DarkwingEsp after that dang call from Disney02:21
akkdd how? Of an old filesystem to the new disk?02:22
nhainesakk: yup.02:22
akkI've had trouble with that -- I don't do it, I use rsync instead.02:22
akkor cp -a02:22
nhainesOoh, rsync.02:22
akknhaines: Here's what I do when copying a distro before upgrading one of the copies. http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/upgrading-without-risk.html02:24
akkCopying to a new machine is pretty much the same.02:24
akkWith my new laptop (assuming Dell succeeds in fixing the broken touchscreen :( ) I plan to install a minimal debian, then use scp -a or rsync -av to copy from the old laptop.02:25
DarkwingThis is my first dell after several Lenovo laptops. I actually like it.02:26
akkMine isn't usable because the touchscreen is constantly sending spurious events.02:27
Darkwing:( I bought a Vostro V1302:27
akkLooks nice! Mine's a Latitude 2120.02:28
DarkwingI bought it because of the size. Heh... Remember by behemoth that I had at the last SCaLE?02:29
Darkwings/by/my/02:29
akkI don't think I saw it ... we only crossed paths so briefly, just as you were leaving.02:30
akkSmall light laptops rule.02:30
DarkwingAhhh right.02:30
DarkwingYeah, and it has a full size keyboard and while the 13in screen is smaller then the 17in I had before... the fact that it is 3.3lbs and 0.6in thick closed makes if very very nice to move around with.02:31
Darkwingall the perks as a netbook without the limitations02:31
akkMine's lighter :)02:32
Darkwing:D02:33
DarkwingI was looking at the XPS 15z02:34
akkI really like the 11.1" screen on this Vaio, but that's unobtainable now.02:34
DarkwingYeah, I got this one as a referb for 350USD02:36
DarkwingMy only complaint is that it ONLY comes with a 6cell internal battery02:37
pleia2bkerensa: did you upload a youtube video? (holy twitter feed, batman)02:37
pleia2:P02:37
akkMy 2120 was a refurb too. Discovering it doesn't work has cut into my enthusiasm for refurbs a little.02:37
akk(have to wait a couple days for a shipping container, in which I'll send it back for repair and get it back a week later)02:38
Darkwingmine is good...I need to figure out how to turn on the internal 3G modem.02:38
akk(this being somewhat complicated when I'm in the middle of a trip and shifting locations every few days)02:38
akkMine's "3G ready", but I think that means "there's a place to plug in a 3G modem" rather than "it has a 3g modem already" ... but I'm not sure.02:39
akk(Doesn't matter to me, I don't have a 3G account.)02:39
DarkwingI have a VZW 3G modem in it... Kubuntu detected it the first time I booted but, when I changed the HD out it stopped detecting. So, I need to ensure I didn't unplug it.02:40
akkThis 2120 is available from Dell with Ubuntu, pretty cool (though not with the options I got, only stripper models, and not as a refurb).02:41
DarkwingI bought this via a third party... It was on the Ubuntu list as well...02:42
bkerensapleia2: What?05:51
bkerensaDarkwing: I have  14z and it is nice05:51
Darkwing:D05:54
bkerensaDarkwing: I worry though... On my old Dell Inspiron 1525 (Dinosaur) I could do distributed computing with no issue06:13
bkerensabut on the 14z because the CPU is such a beast06:13
bkerensaidk06:13
bkerensaI worry :P it gets super hot but the funs throttle and control heat but its just a Mustang compared to my old laptop06:13
bkerensa:D06:13
DarkwingI like my Vostro V13. Core 2 Duo.06:20
bkerensaThis is a Core i506:45
bkerensawith 6GB Ram06:45
* YokoZar kisses babies, announces Community Council nomination15:13
pleia2nhaines: no RC15:30
* kdub__ cant make the next membership america's board meeting, should i wait a month, or apply at another regional board?16:32
pleia2you can apply at any regional board16:33
kdub__i might just apply to the americas and figure out how to get on irc on my phone or something16:36
bkerensapleia2: Do you know why audio jack on my laptop may not be enabled?16:44
bkerensa:D16:44
pleia2no16:44
bkerensa:(16:45
pleia2bkerensa: re: youtube, you posted like 50 posts on twitter last night about uploading videos16:45
bkerensaLOL16:45
bkerensaoh my bad :( that was from the occupy protests16:45
pleia2it was kinda insane, I was close to unfollowing :P16:45
* bkerensa should have disabled sharing first16:45
bkerensawill do next time16:45
pleia2(not that my following is important, you have plenty of followers!)16:46
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bkerensapleia2: In the grand scheme of things I have hardly any :( I have friends that have 50k and 70k16:47
bkerensawell I gotta go make like 50 PB&J sandwiches to take down to the parks16:48
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kdubsweet got android irc running16:57
grantbowusing andchat?16:59
bkerensaFound Bug17:08
bkerensaCX2059017:08
bkerensaHeadphone Jack workaround :D17:17
nhainespleia2: no RC forever?17:28
pleia2nhaines: AFAIK just no RC this time17:30
kdubhey nhaines, if you have some spare time and want to, could you write a testimonial for my membership?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KevinDuBois17:39
DarkwingOkay, this is strange...18:23
nhainespleia2: oh right, I meant "forever" as in "next 6 days."18:46
nhainesWhere did you har that?18:46
nhaineskdub: I'm super busy (and might be away this weekend) but I'll put it on my task list!18:46
pleia2asked in #ubuntu-community-team18:46
nhainesAlso s/har/hear/18:46
kdubthanks nhaines!18:47
nhaines*sigh* I am annoyed that Canonical wouldn't mention something like that.18:47
nhainesThis must be jonos' fault.  :P18:47
bkerensapoor jono always getting the blame :P18:48
jonoindeed18:48
nhainesjono: just ribbing ya, hehe.18:48
jono:-)18:49
nhainesI am annoyed, just not at you specifically.  :)18:49
bkerensa:D18:49
bkerensajono has a entire team of community people so it seems easier to just blame jorge going forward :)18:49
nhainesjono: Make dholbach poke someone and get an RC message out.  :D18:49
nhainesjorge's just the external projects liason, I thought.  Of course, that's what he told me at LRL USA 2008, so...  :)18:50
jononhaines, we don't have release candidates now18:50
nhainesjono: well someone want might to let the community know about that.18:50
rwwand OneiricReleaseSchedule, unless that got corrected18:51
bkerensahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule18:51
rwwwhich it didn't :318:51
* rww does18:51
rwwoh, lol, "Please do not edit"18:51
philipballewwow! its already release time18:52
bkerensarww: It is inaccurate18:52
bkerensaso likely "Please do not edit" should be disregarded18:52
bkerensa:P18:52
philipballewI now have to find a good time to leave my laptop alone for 8 hours so it can download all updates on a 25 kb/s download speed campus18:53
DarkwingRelease Candidate is also still listed for Percise. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule18:53
rwwbkerensa: you can do it then, I'm not.18:53
bkerensalol18:54
Darkwing:D18:54
bkerensaNotably if I edit it then a lightning bolt will shortly hit me thereafter18:54
nhainesjono: that might've sounded snarky at you, but I didn't mean it that way.  The Ubuntu Release Manager should be telegraphing major changes to the release cycle like dropping release candidates.18:55
jonono worries, nhaines, good point18:55
philipballewnhaines, he's a crazy man! :)18:56
nhainesjono: just wanted to be clear where my ire is directed.  I'm sure you're getting enough ragemail as is.  :)18:57
bkerensarww: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule18:57
bkerensarww: Now I can be blamed if it needs to be reverted18:57
nhainesbkerensa: now I'm going to tell the Technical Board on you.  :P18:57
jononhaines, np18:57
DarkwingKate Stewart on Sept 27th in teh Ubuntu-doc, ubuntu-devel lists mentioned that the realease candidate was coming18:57
jonothanks for the clarification, nhaines18:57
pleia2bkerensa: please don't edit wiki pages that specifically say "do not edit" - the proper path is to contact the team who manages it18:58
bkerensapleia2: I will revert18:58
pleia2not edit the page and "see what happens"18:58
DarkwingNOOOOOOOO! I hope this flips back on soon.19:00
DarkwingI changed my primary email 2 days ago when I got the call from Disney... Launchpad stopped sending my @ubuntu messages to the old email this morning... And now I'm not getting them at all :(19:01
philipballewDarkwing, Disney called? thats why you changer your irc name?19:02
DarkwingYup19:02
philipballewyou seem like your just being a good advertiser for them19:03
DarkwingThey were nice so, I didn't want to be a dick about it.19:03
philipballewno reason not to. I might have asked for free tickets to Disney land. have you herd about the giant protest today apparently in downtown sd?19:04
DarkwingYeah, I was going to check it out till my @ubuntu and @kubuntu emails stopped working.19:05
nhainesQ: What's do Disneyland and #ubuntu-us-ca have in common?19:05
nhainesA: Neither one contains DarkwingDuck.19:05
Darkwingnhaines: +119:05
akkFor real, they actually called you?19:06
philipballeware they even still making current darkwing duck tv shows?19:06
DarkwingYeah. They called19:06
akkDisney is unbelievable.19:07
philipballewmaybe mickey mouse visited the house19:07
jbermudesI can't wait for the next time Mickey Mouse comes up for copyright extension and see what silly excuses they make for extending the duration19:08
akkDoesn't matter what the ostensible excuse is -- the real excuse is "Here's a large campaign contribution, Mr. Senator."19:08
DarkwingI'm not worried about it.19:10
DarkwingI'm more worried that we dont' yet have a third person running for Cali Leadership.19:10
* philipballew should change his irc name to walt disney19:10
Darkwing*don't19:10
rwwDarkwing: I'm also concerned that both people running are current leaders. While I'm fine with you guys, promoting new people up is always a good thing, especially since Ubuntu needs more leaders in general.19:12
pleia2rww: so, putting your name in?19:12
pleia2I've nagged a couple people19:12
rwwpleia2: no, I'm going on Ubuntu vacation for a cycle in a week.19:12
* pleia2 nods19:13
bkerensapleia2: I reverted and messaged Kate.... DocTeam does have a role in making sure wiki is accurate and up to date19:13
pleia2bkerensa: thanks19:13
pleia2any wiki page can be reverted, they specifically say on some wiki pages not to edit it because it's an official resource maintained by a team and they don't want 8 hours lag before someone on the team notices it and can revert19:14
pleia2the release schedule is a pretty prime example of where random edits can cause major problems for a team19:15
pleia2(plus random edits mean the team can't trust the community to respect their wishes, and then it gets pulled into ubuntu.com that is completely canonical-controlled)19:15
DarkwingLike that's a bad thing :P:P19:16
* Darkwing ducks19:16
rwwDarkwing: sure it is. it means next time ubuntu.com gets a redesign, they break all the links to it19:17
pleia2I want things to be going in the opposite direction19:17
* rww runs19:17
Darkwing^5 rww19:17
pleia2Darkwing: are you going to be around for the meeting on sunday?19:18
pleia2I'll be out of town19:18
DarkwingSure, why not :)19:18
DarkwingYeah, I'll be here.19:18
pleia2ok, thanks :)19:19
* Darkwing sets the alarm reminder on his phone19:19
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nhaines!work21:52
EurekaDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.21:52
nhainesExcellent.21:52
bkerensaOneiric Release Schedule has been updated ;) to note that no RC is here22:23
nhainesbkerensa: you told us when you did that earlier!22:27
bkerensanhaines: Technical Board updated it after I e-mailed22:28
bkerensaI reverted after pleia2 suggested the edit was a bad idea22:28
nhainesbkerensa: teasing.  :P  Kate Steward updated it.22:29
bkerensayeah22:29
nhainesAlso I'm not sure why I misspelled Kate Stewart's name.22:29
nhainesWell, we know http://thisisthecountdown.com/ isn't counting down to the RC!22:30
bkerensanhaines: What is it counting down to?22:31
bkerensa:D22:31
nhainesbkerensa: some marketing campaign.22:31
nhainesWe'll find out Wednesday I guess!22:31
pleia2Darkwing: ooh, banner get there already?23:40
pleia2oh, no, says tomorrow23:40
pleia2tomorrow is good23:40
Darkwing:)23:40
nhainesMust've been delayed due to inclement weather.  (In California, that means it's under 75 degrees.)23:41
pleia2it /rained/ yesterday!23:41
Darkwinglol Not down here... Then again I'm coastal.23:41
nhainespleia2: it had the good sense to sort all that out before I left the building.23:42
pleia2hehe23:42

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