[00:24] <nhaines> NOTE TO CANONICAL RELEASE TEAM: I've just burned the Oneiric daily CD, so it's okay to put the Release Candidate up now.
[00:27] <Darkwing> :D
[00:28] <nhaines> Who can we harass about this when it doesn't happen, anyway?
[00:29] <nhaines> And by harrass I mean "gently remind."
[00:29] <Darkwing> :D
[00:30] <Darkwing> Kate Stewart.
[00:30] <nhaines> Probably.
[00:30] <nhaines> If she's smart, she stays off IRC though.  :)
[01:19] <pleia2> received our copies of the official ubuntu book :)
[01:19] <Darkwing> How many copies?
[01:20] <pleia2> 2 copies for the team! and a copy of ubuntu unleased too (I asked for it)
[01:20] <Darkwing> Woot!
[01:21] <Darkwing> I have a few copies of Ubuntu for Non-Geeks
[01:21] <pleia2> I'll bring one copy down to scale, and my copy of the last edition of the official ubuntu book (been meaning to get rid of it)
[01:22] <Darkwing> That should be fun.
[01:23]  * pleia2 will probably end up with a full suitcase of stuff to bring down again
[01:23] <pleia2> speaking of which, need to pack for philly now
[01:23] <Darkwing> LOL If you want, I can send up some money and you can mail some stuff down.
[01:23] <Darkwing> So, you're not too full.
[01:23] <pleia2> no worries, I get free baggage with star alliance
[01:24] <pleia2> I'll just make mjoseph carry it
[01:24] <pleia2> <3
[01:24] <Darkwing> LOL epic idea. :)
[01:24] <pleia2> ok, packing now for real
[01:24] <Darkwing> Have fun!
[01:24] <Darkwing> This is a pain.
[01:58] <Darkwing> Why is the android server where they keep the SDK updates and APIs so ssllooww?
[02:17] <nhaines> Darkwing: because people like you keep refreshing trying to get the Ice Cream Sandwich update as soon as it comes out!
[02:17] <Darkwing> LOL No, I'm actually reinstalling the development.
[02:17] <Darkwing> I just got a new Laptop with a SSD so, I'm getting things back together.
[02:18] <nhaines> dd?
[02:18] <Darkwing> dd?
[02:19] <nhaines> akk: if you had a new computer, would you set it up using dd?
[02:19] <Darkwing> Oh yeah, dd... Normally I would but, I had to change a few things
[02:21] <Darkwing> Esp after that dang call from Disney
[02:22] <akk> dd how? Of an old filesystem to the new disk?
[02:22] <nhaines> akk: yup.
[02:22] <akk> I've had trouble with that -- I don't do it, I use rsync instead.
[02:22] <akk> or cp -a
[02:22] <nhaines> Ooh, rsync.
[02:24] <akk> nhaines: Here's what I do when copying a distro before upgrading one of the copies. http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/upgrading-without-risk.html
[02:24] <akk> Copying to a new machine is pretty much the same.
[02:25] <akk> With my new laptop (assuming Dell succeeds in fixing the broken touchscreen :( ) I plan to install a minimal debian, then use scp -a or rsync -av to copy from the old laptop.
[02:26] <Darkwing> This is my first dell after several Lenovo laptops. I actually like it.
[02:27] <akk> Mine isn't usable because the touchscreen is constantly sending spurious events.
[02:27] <Darkwing> :( I bought a Vostro V13
[02:28] <akk> Looks nice! Mine's a Latitude 2120.
[02:29] <Darkwing> I bought it because of the size. Heh... Remember by behemoth that I had at the last SCaLE?
[02:29] <Darkwing> s/by/my/
[02:30] <akk> I don't think I saw it ... we only crossed paths so briefly, just as you were leaving.
[02:30] <akk> Small light laptops rule.
[02:30] <Darkwing> Ahhh right.
[02:31] <Darkwing> Yeah, and it has a full size keyboard and while the 13in screen is smaller then the 17in I had before... the fact that it is 3.3lbs and 0.6in thick closed makes if very very nice to move around with.
[02:31] <Darkwing> all the perks as a netbook without the limitations
[02:32] <akk> Mine's lighter :)
[02:33] <Darkwing> :D
[02:34] <Darkwing> I was looking at the XPS 15z
[02:34] <akk> I really like the 11.1" screen on this Vaio, but that's unobtainable now.
[02:36] <Darkwing> Yeah, I got this one as a referb for 350USD
[02:37] <Darkwing> My only complaint is that it ONLY comes with a 6cell internal battery
[02:37] <pleia2> bkerensa: did you upload a youtube video? (holy twitter feed, batman)
[02:37] <pleia2> :P
[02:37] <akk> My 2120 was a refurb too. Discovering it doesn't work has cut into my enthusiasm for refurbs a little.
[02:38] <akk> (have to wait a couple days for a shipping container, in which I'll send it back for repair and get it back a week later)
[02:38] <Darkwing> mine is good...I need to figure out how to turn on the internal 3G modem.
[02:38] <akk> (this being somewhat complicated when I'm in the middle of a trip and shifting locations every few days)
[02:39] <akk> Mine's "3G ready", but I think that means "there's a place to plug in a 3G modem" rather than "it has a 3g modem already" ... but I'm not sure.
[02:39] <akk> (Doesn't matter to me, I don't have a 3G account.)
[02:40] <Darkwing> I have a VZW 3G modem in it... Kubuntu detected it the first time I booted but, when I changed the HD out it stopped detecting. So, I need to ensure I didn't unplug it.
[02:41] <akk> This 2120 is available from Dell with Ubuntu, pretty cool (though not with the options I got, only stripper models, and not as a refurb).
[02:42] <Darkwing> I bought this via a third party... It was on the Ubuntu list as well...
[05:51] <bkerensa> pleia2: What?
[05:51] <bkerensa> Darkwing: I have  14z and it is nice
[05:54] <Darkwing> :D
[06:13] <bkerensa> Darkwing: I worry though... On my old Dell Inspiron 1525 (Dinosaur) I could do distributed computing with no issue
[06:13] <bkerensa> but on the 14z because the CPU is such a beast
[06:13] <bkerensa> idk
[06:13] <bkerensa> I worry :P it gets super hot but the funs throttle and control heat but its just a Mustang compared to my old laptop
[06:13] <bkerensa> :D
[06:20] <Darkwing> I like my Vostro V13. Core 2 Duo.
[06:45] <bkerensa> This is a Core i5
[06:45] <bkerensa> with 6GB Ram
[15:13]  * YokoZar kisses babies, announces Community Council nomination
[15:30] <pleia2> nhaines: no RC
[16:32]  * kdub__ cant make the next membership america's board meeting, should i wait a month, or apply at another regional board?
[16:33] <pleia2> you can apply at any regional board
[16:36] <kdub__> i might just apply to the americas and figure out how to get on irc on my phone or something
[16:44] <bkerensa> pleia2: Do you know why audio jack on my laptop may not be enabled?
[16:44] <bkerensa> :D
[16:44] <pleia2> no
[16:45] <bkerensa> :(
[16:45] <pleia2> bkerensa: re: youtube, you posted like 50 posts on twitter last night about uploading videos
[16:45] <bkerensa> LOL
[16:45] <bkerensa> oh my bad :( that was from the occupy protests
[16:45] <pleia2> it was kinda insane, I was close to unfollowing :P
[16:45]  * bkerensa should have disabled sharing first
[16:45] <bkerensa> will do next time
[16:46] <pleia2> (not that my following is important, you have plenty of followers!)
[16:47] <bkerensa> pleia2: In the grand scheme of things I have hardly any :( I have friends that have 50k and 70k
[16:48] <bkerensa> well I gotta go make like 50 PB&J sandwiches to take down to the parks
[16:57] <kdub> sweet got android irc running
[16:59] <grantbow> using andchat?
[17:08] <bkerensa> Found Bug
[17:08] <bkerensa> CX20590
[17:17] <bkerensa> Headphone Jack workaround :D
[17:28] <nhaines> pleia2: no RC forever?
[17:30] <pleia2> nhaines: AFAIK just no RC this time
[17:39] <kdub> hey nhaines, if you have some spare time and want to, could you write a testimonial for my membership?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KevinDuBois
[18:23] <Darkwing> Okay, this is strange...
[18:46] <nhaines> pleia2: oh right, I meant "forever" as in "next 6 days."
[18:46] <nhaines> Where did you har that?
[18:46] <nhaines> kdub: I'm super busy (and might be away this weekend) but I'll put it on my task list!
[18:46] <pleia2> asked in #ubuntu-community-team
[18:46] <nhaines> Also s/har/hear/
[18:47] <kdub> thanks nhaines!
[18:47] <nhaines> *sigh* I am annoyed that Canonical wouldn't mention something like that.
[18:47] <nhaines> This must be jonos' fault.  :P
[18:48] <bkerensa> poor jono always getting the blame :P
[18:48] <jono> indeed
[18:48] <nhaines> jono: just ribbing ya, hehe.
[18:49] <jono> :-)
[18:49] <nhaines> I am annoyed, just not at you specifically.  :)
[18:49] <bkerensa> :D
[18:49] <bkerensa> jono has a entire team of community people so it seems easier to just blame jorge going forward :)
[18:49] <nhaines> jono: Make dholbach poke someone and get an RC message out.  :D
[18:50] <nhaines> jorge's just the external projects liason, I thought.  Of course, that's what he told me at LRL USA 2008, so...  :)
[18:50] <jono> nhaines, we don't have release candidates now
[18:50] <nhaines> jono: well someone want might to let the community know about that.
[18:51] <rww> and OneiricReleaseSchedule, unless that got corrected
[18:51] <bkerensa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[18:51] <rww> which it didn't :3
[18:51]  * rww does
[18:51] <rww> oh, lol, "Please do not edit"
[18:52] <philipballew> wow! its already release time
[18:52] <bkerensa> rww: It is inaccurate
[18:52] <bkerensa> so likely "Please do not edit" should be disregarded
[18:52] <bkerensa> :P
[18:53] <philipballew> I now have to find a good time to leave my laptop alone for 8 hours so it can download all updates on a 25 kb/s download speed campus
[18:53] <Darkwing> Release Candidate is also still listed for Percise. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[18:53] <rww> bkerensa: you can do it then, I'm not.
[18:54] <bkerensa> lol
[18:54] <Darkwing> :D
[18:54] <bkerensa> Notably if I edit it then a lightning bolt will shortly hit me thereafter
[18:55] <nhaines> jono: that might've sounded snarky at you, but I didn't mean it that way.  The Ubuntu Release Manager should be telegraphing major changes to the release cycle like dropping release candidates.
[18:55] <jono> no worries, nhaines, good point
[18:56] <philipballew> nhaines, he's a crazy man! :)
[18:57] <nhaines> jono: just wanted to be clear where my ire is directed.  I'm sure you're getting enough ragemail as is.  :)
[18:57] <bkerensa> rww: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[18:57] <bkerensa> rww: Now I can be blamed if it needs to be reverted
[18:57] <nhaines> bkerensa: now I'm going to tell the Technical Board on you.  :P
[18:57] <jono> nhaines, np
[18:57] <Darkwing> Kate Stewart on Sept 27th in teh Ubuntu-doc, ubuntu-devel lists mentioned that the realease candidate was coming
[18:57] <jono> thanks for the clarification, nhaines
[18:58] <pleia2> bkerensa: please don't edit wiki pages that specifically say "do not edit" - the proper path is to contact the team who manages it
[18:58] <bkerensa> pleia2: I will revert
[18:58] <pleia2> not edit the page and "see what happens"
[19:00] <Darkwing> NOOOOOOOO! I hope this flips back on soon.
[19:01] <Darkwing> I changed my primary email 2 days ago when I got the call from Disney... Launchpad stopped sending my @ubuntu messages to the old email this morning... And now I'm not getting them at all :(
[19:02] <philipballew> Darkwing, Disney called? thats why you changer your irc name?
[19:02] <Darkwing> Yup
[19:03] <philipballew> you seem like your just being a good advertiser for them
[19:03] <Darkwing> They were nice so, I didn't want to be a dick about it.
[19:04] <philipballew> no reason not to. I might have asked for free tickets to Disney land. have you herd about the giant protest today apparently in downtown sd?
[19:05] <Darkwing> Yeah, I was going to check it out till my @ubuntu and @kubuntu emails stopped working.
[19:05] <nhaines> Q: What's do Disneyland and #ubuntu-us-ca have in common?
[19:05] <nhaines> A: Neither one contains DarkwingDuck.
[19:05] <Darkwing> nhaines: +1
[19:06] <akk> For real, they actually called you?
[19:06] <philipballew> are they even still making current darkwing duck tv shows?
[19:06] <Darkwing> Yeah. They called
[19:07] <akk> Disney is unbelievable.
[19:07] <philipballew> maybe mickey mouse visited the house
[19:08] <jbermudes> I can't wait for the next time Mickey Mouse comes up for copyright extension and see what silly excuses they make for extending the duration
[19:08] <akk> Doesn't matter what the ostensible excuse is -- the real excuse is "Here's a large campaign contribution, Mr. Senator."
[19:10] <Darkwing> I'm not worried about it.
[19:10] <Darkwing> I'm more worried that we dont' yet have a third person running for Cali Leadership.
[19:10]  * philipballew should change his irc name to walt disney
[19:10] <Darkwing> *don't
[19:12] <rww> Darkwing: I'm also concerned that both people running are current leaders. While I'm fine with you guys, promoting new people up is always a good thing, especially since Ubuntu needs more leaders in general.
[19:12] <pleia2> rww: so, putting your name in?
[19:12] <pleia2> I've nagged a couple people
[19:12] <rww> pleia2: no, I'm going on Ubuntu vacation for a cycle in a week.
[19:13]  * pleia2 nods
[19:13] <bkerensa> pleia2: I reverted and messaged Kate.... DocTeam does have a role in making sure wiki is accurate and up to date
[19:13] <pleia2> bkerensa: thanks
[19:14] <pleia2> any wiki page can be reverted, they specifically say on some wiki pages not to edit it because it's an official resource maintained by a team and they don't want 8 hours lag before someone on the team notices it and can revert
[19:15] <pleia2> the release schedule is a pretty prime example of where random edits can cause major problems for a team
[19:15] <pleia2> (plus random edits mean the team can't trust the community to respect their wishes, and then it gets pulled into ubuntu.com that is completely canonical-controlled)
[19:16] <Darkwing> Like that's a bad thing :P:P
[19:16]  * Darkwing ducks
[19:17] <rww> Darkwing: sure it is. it means next time ubuntu.com gets a redesign, they break all the links to it
[19:17] <pleia2> I want things to be going in the opposite direction
[19:17]  * rww runs
[19:17] <Darkwing> ^5 rww
[19:18] <pleia2> Darkwing: are you going to be around for the meeting on sunday?
[19:18] <pleia2> I'll be out of town
[19:18] <Darkwing> Sure, why not :)
[19:18] <Darkwing> Yeah, I'll be here.
[19:19] <pleia2> ok, thanks :)
[19:19]  * Darkwing sets the alarm reminder on his phone
[21:52] <nhaines> !work
[21:52] <Eureka> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[21:52] <nhaines> Excellent.
[22:23] <bkerensa> Oneiric Release Schedule has been updated ;) to note that no RC is here
[22:27] <nhaines> bkerensa: you told us when you did that earlier!
[22:28] <bkerensa> nhaines: Technical Board updated it after I e-mailed
[22:28] <bkerensa> I reverted after pleia2 suggested the edit was a bad idea
[22:29] <nhaines> bkerensa: teasing.  :P  Kate Steward updated it.
[22:29] <bkerensa> yeah
[22:29] <nhaines> Also I'm not sure why I misspelled Kate Stewart's name.
[22:30] <nhaines> Well, we know http://thisisthecountdown.com/ isn't counting down to the RC!
[22:31] <bkerensa> nhaines: What is it counting down to?
[22:31] <bkerensa> :D
[22:31] <nhaines> bkerensa: some marketing campaign.
[22:31] <nhaines> We'll find out Wednesday I guess!
[23:40] <pleia2> Darkwing: ooh, banner get there already?
[23:40] <pleia2> oh, no, says tomorrow
[23:40] <pleia2> tomorrow is good
[23:40] <Darkwing> :)
[23:41] <nhaines> Must've been delayed due to inclement weather.  (In California, that means it's under 75 degrees.)
[23:41] <pleia2> it /rained/ yesterday!
[23:41] <Darkwing> lol Not down here... Then again I'm coastal.
[23:42] <nhaines> pleia2: it had the good sense to sort all that out before I left the building.
[23:42] <pleia2> hehe