[00:14] pulse is awesome [00:15] wish I knew a command to control it better though [00:15] amixer isn't working very well [00:16] No, I am ticked because I was trying to get skype to work (it needed pavucontrol), now VLC, firefox, and anything but pianobar doesn't have sound :/ [00:17] they probably just need a change of settings [00:17] firefox - flash? [00:17] libcanberra or something like that [00:17] Nope [00:18] hmm [00:19] And I'll do quite a few things to get it to work, reboot is not really an option though (Stability is hard to come by on this computer) [00:21] * wrst will be around more or less for the meeting [00:21] vlc-plugin-pulse? [00:21] Yep :/ [00:22] I have some error output from Gish though :P [00:23] idk what gish is but pastebin it [00:24] is it related to a fish? [00:24] Game :) [00:25] Unit193: getting in here late but pulse audio? [00:25] hello Netizen27 [00:25] wrst: pavucontrol started it (I did because of skype :P ) [00:26] what do you use to control audio? i know in gnome you can control the individual apps in pulse [00:26] pavucontrol [00:26] ahh [00:26] * wrst is out of his league [00:26] http://pastebin.com/f5mgZcMi had just installed it [00:27] sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start [00:28] i love pulse when it works on my recording machine its wonderful but when it doesn't it is like grub2 to me [00:29] pulse is awesome, I love how I can play 2 things at the same time :D [00:29] Already tried it, but did again with same as nromal * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions [00:29] yeah binarymutant that's really helpful on my recording machine [00:29] and it and JACK work well together [00:30] #startmeeting [00:30] VLC http://pastebin.com/drD9st7j [00:30] Meeting started Fri Oct 7 00:30:14 2011 UTC. The chair is johnhaitas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [00:30] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [00:30] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [00:30] who do we have here? [00:30] i'm sorta here johnhaitas [00:31] wrst … Unit193 … anyone else? [00:31] I'm here :D [00:31] I'm not here [00:31] wow [00:31] this is a treat :) [00:31] cyberanger: ping [00:31] well Unit193 doesn't really count does he? [00:31] and binarymutant first time in like... years?? :) [00:31] wrst: did cyberanger mention he wasn't going to be able to make it? [00:32] i thought that was it [00:32] * wrst checks the logs [00:32] wrst: a couple of years yeah :D [00:32] well it's great to have you back binarymutant [00:32] binarymutant: btw, i'm running znc now [00:33] sweet [00:33] so guys … those of you that are here ... [00:33] #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/157/detail/ [00:33] johnhaitas: cyberanger response was "dunno" [00:33] our agenda [00:33] wrst: cool [00:34] so yea… meetingology … our new meeting bot … replacing MootBot [00:34] johnhaitas: i and the wife are cleaning and swapping out the baby so i may be hit or miss [00:34] but I support what you support ;) [00:34] #meetingtopic Meetingology Bot [00:35] so… i don't see any logs being produced [00:35] * wrst wonders if a startmeeting command is needed [00:35] sorry [00:36] #meetingtopic Tennessee Team October Meeting [00:36] #chair johnhaitas [00:36] Current chairs: johnhaitas [00:36] #meetingtopic Tennessee Team October Meeting [00:36] hmm [00:36] site says it's very quiet [00:37] #nick Unit193 wrst binarymutant [00:37] #topic Meetingology Bot [00:37] i wonder if the bot knows we're talking about it :p [00:37] or is that :P [00:38] hmm maybe we should say bad things about the bot? [00:38] go for it [00:38] if you have bad things to say [00:38] http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-tn/2011/ -- logs [00:38] binarymutant: +1 [00:38] #link http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-tn/2011/ [00:39] ok … i get it now [00:39] binarymutant: thank you [00:39] np [00:39] this is more useful now that you point that out [00:40] i motion we move on to the next agenda item [00:40] unless anyone has anything to add about meetingology [00:40] what was the reason for the change? [00:41] binarymutant: meetingology is just a newer version of MootBot [00:41] ah [00:41] seems cool, to me [00:41] agreed [00:42] #agreed meetingology seems cool to us [00:42] :) [00:42] so [00:42] lol [00:42] i motion we move to the next agenda item [00:42] anyone second that motion? [00:42] +1 [00:42] #commands [00:42] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [00:43] #help agreed [00:43] #help agree [00:43] #topic Ubuntu 11.10 Release Party [00:43] #help [00:43] hmm [00:43] although it should msg me [00:43] and it doesn't [00:43] anyhow [00:43] me neither [00:43] #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ [00:43] so i noticed the map there [00:44] for the ubuntu 11.10 release parties [00:44] and i reckon we can get one in tennessee [00:44] #idea Ubuntu 11.10 Release Party in Tennessee [00:44] the available commands listed aren't in the actual bot... [00:45] wow [00:45] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [00:45] anyway [00:45] `msg meetingology list meetbot` [00:46] there are no parties scheduled for the southeast [00:46] binarymutant, is it fair to assume nashville will be too long a drive for you? [00:46] yeah it's a 3 hour drive, too soon [00:46] right [00:46] cool [00:47] so i'm the only one here for planning a nashville release party [00:47] but i am determined to get a release party on that map [00:49] johnhaitas: wish i could tell you i would be there, i would like to be there but my current situation does not lead me to a lot of flexibility :\ [00:49] wrst: i will plan as if you can't make it [00:49] wrst: if you do make it … bonus [00:49] no other team in the southeast is having a release party [00:50] #subtopic Nashville - Ubuntu 11.10 Release Party [00:50] #idea Friday evening to accomodate schedules. [00:50] johnhaitas: i will try to be a bonus... hmm could you tell my wife that having me around is a bonus? [00:50] #idea Possible dates include (but not limited to) Oct 14, 21, 28 and Nov 4 [00:51] #idea Suggested location: J & J's Market & Cafe, 1912 Broadway, Nashville, TN 37203 [00:51] http://www.yelp.com/biz/j-and-js-market-and-cafe-nashville-2 [00:51] J & J's has WiFi, coffee, and beer [00:52] the owner (Sam) is great [00:52] and the atmosphere is better than a restaurant or bar [00:52] johnhaitas: that's a great looking spot you have found there [00:53] 2600 holds their meetings there first friday of each month [00:53] wrst: yea … i met w4ett there a few times [00:53] anyone have any input regarding the date? [00:54] release is next thursday [00:54] #idea tentatively schedule for Oct 21 or 28 [00:55] do something online too for those that can't make nashville? [00:55] anyone out there? [00:55] binarymutant: for sure [00:55] sweet [00:55] should we say the 28th of october? [00:55] like 6:30? [00:56] i'm going to mark that [00:56] seems as if we are few at the moment [00:56] yeah [00:56] binarymutant, johnhaitas mentioned skype earlier today [00:57] #action Ubuntu 11.10 Release Party in Nashville on Friday, October 28 at 6:30pm (central) at J & J's Market & Cafe, 1912 Broadway, Nashville, TN 37203 [00:57] ACTION: Ubuntu 11.10 Release Party in Nashville on Friday, October 28 at 6:30pm (central) at J & J's Market & Cafe, 1912 Broadway, Nashville, TN 37203 [00:57] ok good [00:57] that's cool, def. skype or some sort voip works for me [00:58] I like that idea [01:00] binarymutant: that was all johnhaitas [01:00] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/venues/United_States/621/detail/ [01:02] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/tennessee.team/1329/detail/ [01:04] http://i53.tinypic.com/n3rkso.png [01:04] we are now on the map! [01:04] awesome! [01:04] ok then [01:05] does anyone have anything to add on that? [01:05] sweetness [01:05] so if no one has anything to add …. [01:05] i motion we adjourn this meeting [01:06] woot shortest meeting ever and I give a hearty second [01:06] agreed [01:06] wrst: i feel like accomplished stuff here :) [01:06] just like how I remember them :D [01:06] yes :) [01:06] agreed johnhaitas [01:06] #agreed we accomplished something here ;) [01:06] #endmeeting [01:06] Meeting ended Fri Oct 7 01:06:54 2011 UTC. [01:06] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-tn/2011/ubuntu-us-tn.2011-10-07-00.30.moin.txt [01:07] ah it gives a link at the end [01:07] Yep, formatted for wikis [01:08] Well, moin syntax [01:08] can someone paste that to the wiki [01:08] i gotta go [01:09] later johnhaitas [01:09] later y'all [01:11] Adios [01:11] Unit193: did you get your pulse working yet? [01:13] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio -- brb [01:16] He was following the meeting and playing Gish :P [01:28] seems I'm late [01:30] johnhaitas: I metioned sept & oct were likely to be late [01:30] getting the salvation army youth group on ubuntu here for their youth service, they only do one thursday a month (same thursday as us) [01:31] I think I'm gonna be late to every meeting now, just some worse than others [01:31] (there's a group trip this saturday, so service announcements were longer) [01:32] wrst: ^ [01:32] hey cyberanger [01:32] cyberanger: you using openlp? [01:33] wrst: ^^^ I metioned at the last two meeting I saw this happening at least for the first few youth group meetings (that conflict with our monthly meetings a little, the service starts at 7PM but doesn't necessarlly wrap up in an hour and a half) [01:33] yep, or I will be [01:34] skipped this month to focus on audio issues [01:34] well you are accomplishing open source things in your absence cyberanger :) [01:34] yeah, in east tn too [01:34] binarymutant: I don't know why I didn't look there first, but I guess it's good because a forums post helped mostly, the wiki just got it the last step [01:38] binarymutant: intrest for an east tn release party? [01:40] johnhaitas: I checked the adgenda earlier this week, saw nothing, so I didn't add anything either [01:40] cyberanger: which agenda? [01:40] since the three things I have can wait for november, when their pressing [01:40] johnhaitas: the one for tonights meeting [01:40] that just passed [01:41] checked monday maybe, tuesday, early in the week, blank [01:41] cyberanger: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/157/detail/ [01:41] that agenda has been there since Friday [01:43] the difference between monday & friday was which direction the car was heading for 12 hours, guess it was friday [01:45] cyberanger, johnhaitas i forget people go to the forums for loco stuff :\ === johnhaitas changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-tn to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Tennessee Team IRC Channel | Next Meeting: Nov. 3 @ 7:30PM CDT/8:30 PM EDT | Please add agenda items to the LoCo Directory Meeting Page located here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/158/detail/ [01:49] * wrst also wonders when ubuntu one went to 5GB [01:55] cyberanger: wait, what was your original point about the agenda being empty? [01:58] johnhaitas: I told you I'd comment on the adgenda before the meeting [01:58] no adgenda when checked, no comment [01:58] cyberanger: sorry, i don't recall that [02:06] wrst: what loco stuff is in the forums? [02:08] * Unit193 wonders if johnhaitas forgot to deop, or if he loves teh powar ;) [02:09] cyberanger: not sure [02:11] cyberanger: I was thinking about voiping into the main release party though [02:11] cyberanger: i removed w4ett [02:11] removed your founder status [02:11] added orias and Svpernova09 as ops [02:12] and removed ericG [02:35] wtf is this http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/silkroad/ [02:41] johnhaitas: just now seen silkroad? [02:41] binarymutant: i was previously unfamiliar [02:41] binarymutant: fill me in? [02:41] one of the first bitcoin sites - the wired article describes it fully [02:42] wow, didn't see that coming johnhaitas [02:44] johnhaitas: removed him from what? [02:44] my founder status? for what? [02:54] from #ubuntu-us-tn op list [02:54] no sense in being nostalgic … right? [02:54] johnhaitas: see pm [02:54] w4ett and ericG will be welcome when they show back up :) [03:00] indeed? [03:00] indeed! [03:00] !?! [03:01] johnhaitas: what's our moderator status on the forums, looks like w4ett & tideline are the only two actually in our loco (at a prior time, not current members) [03:01] (based on launchpad's status) [03:03] cyberanger: i'll look into this later [03:04] i have to go pick up my black mock turtle neck for black mock turtle neck friday [03:04] salut [03:04] johnhaitas: see you later then [03:04] * cyberanger wonders who johnhaitas is mocking in that black turtle neck [03:06] johnhaitas: as much as I love J&J's I doubt I'll be there two weekends in a row (already aiming for PhreakNIC the weekend after) [03:07] * cyberanger facepalms, that probally should have been in this meeting [03:08] what should have? [03:08] apple? [03:08] cyberanger: should we coordinate the ubuntu release party with phreaknic? [03:29] johnhaitas: coordinate? in what manner (we already bounced the idea of having it's own event) [03:29] binarymutant: phreaknic [04:52] I had no clue Nashville had it's own "Defcon" [04:54] for years, tried to get to the one in 2008, wreaked the car earlier that day though [04:54] 2009 I forgot why I didn't go & 2010 couldn't [04:54] finally [04:55] finally I can go [04:55] lol no jinx [04:57] what are you looking forward to the most out of of phreaknic? [04:59] used to be the wifi foxhunt, but that isn't happening this year [04:59] so I'll find something [05:00] partial schedule [05:00] I looked at the schedule online, but like defcon I can't really find a speech that "speaks" to me [05:00] partial schedule was only released yesterday [05:01] three things speak to me [05:02] What makes an identity, fixing wifi security once and for all [05:03] Counter Espionage Strategy and Tactics [05:03] and there will be more [10:11] anybody up? [10:21] me [10:21] sorta [10:26] lol [10:26] * vychune is using dialup [10:26] ughhhhhhhhhhhhh [10:27] some css files wont even download [10:27] vychune: dial up... yuck [10:27] dialup irk :/ [10:28] but it's free lol [10:28] ads? [10:28] my service is off at home so i have to sneak and use the phone line [10:30] no ads [10:30] thats cool [10:31] anything is better than nothing, even if it only gets 14kb a second [10:31] kinda yeah [10:32] 2kb a sec :/ [10:32] 2kb? wth is up with that? [10:32] LOL [10:32] 14kb is what I got in the 80's [10:33] nothing i can do about it lol [10:33] that sucks :/ [10:34] is it the wiring? I mean 56k has been around for awhile now... [10:34] maybe [10:35] http://blog.canonical.com/2011/10/06/ubuntu-powers-hp-public-cloud/ [10:36] that's cool [10:36] according to my OS i'm getting 44kbps [10:37] vychune: that's good. Much better than 2k [10:37] wrst: ...wouldn't Canonical be competing in that market against HP? [10:38] mind you my OS is winblows :/ [10:38] binarymutant: HP sponers Linux Foundation [10:38] sponsers [10:38] oh screw it [10:39] Openstack vs Ubuntu's cloud... whatever it's called - hng on will search [10:40] ah nevermind, I'm thinking Ubuntu One [10:41] smh [10:41] :P [10:41] binarymutant: i'm thinking having HP's backing is a reallly good thing especially since they are pretty big in the server market [10:42] ^^ agreed [10:43] wrst: dang rgiht [10:43] for some reason I though Ubuntu One was canonicals version of EC2 - brain fart [10:43] EC2? [10:43] binarymutant: i have to say I love ubuntu server, much more than ubuntu desktop [10:43] vychune: amazon's cloud [10:43] also a VPS [10:44] binarymutant: btw whats your os? [10:44] debian/ubuntu [10:44] it's all the same [10:44] wrst: why? [10:44] binarymutant: ok [10:45] then wth are u using for a browser? [10:45] vychune: i just don't like unity mainly :) [10:45] luakit :D [10:45] vychune: i'm using arch on my laptop and desktop and ubuntu on my server [10:45] * wrst loves gnome 3 [10:46] wrst: don't what i did, install lubutu-desktop :) [10:46] * binarymutant loves awesome and luakit [10:46] wrst: DO what i did, install lubutu-desktop :) [10:46] vychune: lubuntu is ok but I like a destkop that looks like it is from this century [10:47] and gnome3 didn't work in 11.04 and in 11.10 its a possibility but I really like how "light" i have my arch setup even though I'm running a real heavy desktop [10:47] kde? [10:47] not a fan of kde either vychune, if i were I wouldn't use kubuntu, they are better but have a long way to go [10:48] i didnt say lubutnu for a reason lol [10:48] i didnt say kubutnu for a reason lol [10:48] lord my typing this morning [10:49] vychune: but if you install lubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop you in essence get them :) [10:50] i know [10:50] install basic kde is what i mean [10:50] then i might as well use arch :) [10:50] but that is the same thing nevermind [10:51] OH YEah that's what i meant [10:51] :) [10:51] how do you change the size of a ping packet? [10:51] -s [10:52] `ping -s` what for though? [10:53] speed test [10:53] pinging google [10:53] enter the unit in bytes? [10:53] I'm guessing ya [10:54] man page says default is 56 [10:54] windows is 32 [10:54] oh that's right your not on a nix box [10:55] it's prolly the same option though, \s [10:55] no wait... /s [10:55] my nix drive burnt out...literally [10:55] <-- can't remember how options work in dos [10:56] "/" or "\" ? [10:56] - [10:57] ?? [10:57] no way [10:57] it's "/" [10:57] looked it up on wikipedia [10:57] :P [10:58] my system says - [10:58] so there [10:58] 10000 bytes is? [10:59] ~10k [11:00] ? [11:00] that's a gianormous *packet* [11:01] why don't you just send a regular one? [11:01] i want to send 1 kb [11:01] did already [11:02] what was the ms time? [11:02] or speedtest.com ... [11:02] average time was 465ms [11:03] ~35ms on cable [11:03] speedtest.com wont work [11:04] ~12x slower than what I'm one [11:04] on* [11:04] that's prolly really bad math too [11:05] 488ms at 2 kilobits [11:05] ( although I did read this earlier http://bentobooks.com/2011/10/math-girls-sample/ ) [11:06] * vychune is not clicking that lol [11:06] it's a book* [11:06] very SFW and children :P [11:07] and should be in every school library across the nation lol [11:08] but yeah i probably would click on a nsfw math girls sample too lol :P [11:09] i hope your touge goes dry lol [11:09] the frigging page wont load [11:09] nvm [11:10] uh on dialup, everything takes more than a second to load... [11:10] brb [11:10] speaking of bentos, when's breakfast lol [11:11] k [11:21] woot woot poptarts [11:26] smh lol [11:27] well i'm gonna go see you guys later [11:27] ttyl vychune [11:28] o/ [13:03] MORNING Y'All! [13:03] Capo [13:06] howdy xpistos! [15:32] morning xpistos, wrst [15:32] johnhaitas: hey [15:34] xpistos: did you ever get to talk to jj? [15:40] morning johnhaitas [16:06] stupid stuck control key [16:07] johnhaitas: nope. he never called me [16:07] johnhaitas: or he never called me back after that one day [16:07] :( [16:07] we have been really busy [16:07] xpistos: i'll pm you [16:08] i've had no indication that jj isn't interested - i'm sure he'd tell me [16:08] so i don't think he's blowing you off [16:11] I didn't think he was [16:11] good … i'm sure that wasn't the case [16:40] account list [16:58] * cyberanger doesn't see xpistos in the books [18:35] hmm xpistos working on bitlbee? [18:35] howdy cyberanger where are you at today? [18:36] wrst: a little [22:28] for the eye candy crowd: http://www.markusfisch.de/PieDock [22:30] binarymutant: for the diabetics worried about the risks of consuming candy, there is always byobu [22:30] rofl! [22:31] thats a good one [22:31] wrst: if I said north korea, would you believe me? ;-) [22:31] yes actually I might :) [22:31] lol, good thing I'm not there [22:33] ha ha [22:33] cyberanger: :P [22:33] all my top secret bunkers are at undisclosed locations in north america [22:33] D'Oh [22:34] back in cleveland again [22:34] home sweet tn [22:34] home sweet apartment [22:34] there's apts in cleveland?? [22:35] * binarymutant mindblown [22:35] no apts in Wellsville :( [22:36] binarymutant: but there are some hotels that are priced well too [22:36] in Hellsville or Cleveland? [22:36] Cleveland I'm guessing [22:37] brb my head is swimming [22:38] Wellsville [22:38] and cleveland, but comment was for Wellsville [22:46] there's a hotel in hellsville? wow [22:46] didn't know [22:46] your not talking about the 411 motel are you ? [22:47] the "motorcycle resort" on US 129 & TN 72 [22:49] never heard, doesn't sound like a quiet place lol [22:49] this is the offseason, not always quiet [22:57] <- is excited about Precise Pangolin [22:59] * cyberanger is excited about pink panther [23:02] * binarymutant didn't like the movie [23:03] * binarymutant *does* remember the cartoon :D