[07:25] hello [07:25] i come to a problem with the installation of my ubuntu studio [07:27] i am going to install the ubuntu studio 11.04, when i come to the step of select and install the software, it failed. so i just install the base system, when i boot up, it just has the text mode and didn't install the gnome [07:36] ??? === Guest79607 is now known as jussi01 [13:29] hi guys, I've got a bit of a mistery here, jack just won't start in ubuntu 11.10 beta 64 bit... on my 32 bit system it does work though. [13:30] the bigger mystery is, why do you have both ;) [13:30] lol, two different machines [13:30] bartje: try gksudo qjackctl just to be sure its not permissions [13:31] bartje: the same audio hardware? the same interface? [13:31] hm, won't start [13:31] bartje: what interface? [13:31] it's as if the driver doesn't find my audiofire12 [13:31] you have *lots* of differences between those machines other than the OS [13:32] the firewire chipset can prevent JACK from starting [13:32] I used the same soundcard [13:32] the audiofire? [13:32] it used to work in 11.04 [13:32] yes [13:32] it uses a firewire controller though [13:33] bartje: i would get a live CD, and confirm the hardware works [13:33] something like AVLinux [13:33] but the alsa driver doesn't want to start either, for the onboard soundcard [13:33] did you reinstall JACK? [13:33] oh yes, twice.. lol [13:34] I also followed the wiki to add raw1394 to the modules to be loaded [13:34] the wiki on linuxmusicians [13:36] sure, but you shouldnt need to do that [13:36] and that could break something in the newer version of ubuntu, who knows [13:36] didn't work without it either [13:36] i would still try with a live CD [13:36] the only way to really know is to either take a live CD, and try, or install 32bit ubuntu [13:37] you can look in the JACK messages [13:37] but how do I know what's wrong with the current system? it did work in 11.04 [13:37] paste those in, and try and catch LAS or one of the JACK folks [13:37] bartje: if it works with a 32bit live CD, then you know whats up [13:37] i heard you had to use the older stack for that device [13:38] the juju stack wouldnt work [13:38] but, i thought 11.04 had that [13:38] i would put the firewire device down, try a live CD such as avlinux, and see if the other hardware workds [13:38] works* [13:39] ok... let's try :-) [13:39] what youve got now is a case where you could have broken something getting FW to work [13:39] OR, it could just be buntu [13:40] im a regular ubuntu supporter and user, and i would never use the non-LTS versions of ubuntustudio [13:40] thats just my personal preference though [13:40] not an excuse for why its not working [13:41] I also installed the ubuntustudio packages, aparently it added a second raw1394.rules file... hmm... [13:42] maybe, but, running gksudo qjackctl should get you around that [13:42] i do that as a test with my FW device [13:42] if it runs as root, then you can stop messing around with the hardware [13:42] even the dummy driver doesn't work [13:43] right, so thats something in the software [13:43] and you've been messing about with it, so im not sure if it came like that or not [13:44] it's only 2 things I've changed.. the .rules file, and the modules [13:44] * holstein shrugs [13:44] and reïnstalling jack of course [13:44] its defintely JACK though [13:44] or software [13:45] try #opensourcemusicians [13:45] I will, thx [13:45] i see las is out of town for a bit