[05:29] <SMJ> so, can I rotate my screen in Xfce?
[05:39] <well_laid_lawn> SMJ: sure you can
[05:40] <well_laid_lawn> you can do it from the command line with xrandr
[05:40] <well_laid_lawn> or use a gui like arandr
[05:40] <well_laid_lawn> !info arandr
[06:52] <ssargennto> anybody having problems with thunar opening slow and producing two windows?
[12:47] <Craig_E> is there discussion anywhere that any of you know of regarding the bluetooth issues in OO I can follow?
[13:30] <focalt> yo
[13:31] <focalt> guys does anyone is having bad windows display after last update?
[13:42] <focalt> charlie-tca, you there? hi :)
[13:42] <charlie-tca> Hello, focalt
[13:43] <focalt> I made a fresh harddisk install of xubuntu lucid 64bit
[13:43] <focalt> and also allowed the latests updates to take place
[13:43] <focalt> one of them was xorg something
[13:44] <focalt> and since then, I have bad windows displaying
[13:44] <focalt> what's wrong? I guess it has to do with X...
[13:44] <charlie-tca> What does bad windows mean?
[13:44] <focalt> when I drag them around
[13:45] <focalt> or scroll down
[13:45] <charlie-tca> are they twisted, wrong color, no title bar, no menu?
[13:45] <focalt> the content when scrolled down has "bad framerate"
[13:46] <focalt> also when I drag them around
[13:46] <focalt> while browsing it kind of anoying, cause you are reading and you loose text reading flow...
[13:49] <charlie-tca> bad framerate is video card related. Either it needs the hardware drivers, or it is going bad.
[13:57] <focalt> charlie-tca, but the strange is, when I open a .pdf for example
[13:58] <focalt> it scrolls smooth
[13:58] <focalt> but not on browser or windows manager
[13:59] <charlie-tca> Different apps use different methods to manage the video
[13:59] <focalt> I'll ask #xorg guys what they think
[14:37] <joris> When is the release candidate for oneiric expected?
[14:43] <charlie-tca> It isn't
[14:43] <charlie-tca> We will have final candidates next week, with the final release on Thursday, October 13
[14:44] <joris> ah ok, is the beta stable enough?
[14:44] <charlie-tca> No, the dailies should be though
[14:44] <charlie-tca> !daily
[14:44] <charlie-tca> !daily
[14:45] <charlie-tca> well, anyway...
[14:45] <joris> :)
[14:45] <joris> I should be able to google that...
[14:45] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[14:45] <joris> cool thanks
[14:45] <charlie-tca> you are welcome
[14:46] <charlie-tca> lol
[14:47] <charlie-tca> a little bit slow
[14:47] <joris> :)
[15:03] <joris> off to install xubuntu and hope to get some sanity back on my desktop... ;)
[15:03] <charlie-tca> :)
[15:08] <ElderDryas> A quick question (of no real significance, just curiosity): Is the LDM login by default on the left side of the screen?
[15:11] <charlie-tca> in Ubuntu it is, In Xubuntu, it should be centered
[15:11] <ElderDryas> hmmm, lemme see what I using :)
[15:12] <ElderDryas> nope, looks like Xubuntu to me
[15:12] <charlie-tca> If you upgrade, you might have gotten unity-greeter, which will be on the left
[15:12] <ElderDryas> I used update-manager -d (or whatever the command really was)
[15:13] <charlie-tca> That's upgrade from 11.04, so yes, it is on the left.
[15:14] <ElderDryas> Maybe that is why Ubuntu Tweak says I'm using GNOME 2.32.1 Ubuntu 2011-04-14 as my DE
[15:15] <charlie-tca> I don't know that one
[15:15] <charlie-tca> you can install lightdm-gtk-greeter to replace unity-greeter and get the Xubuntu lightdm theme
[15:16] <ElderDryas> Ah, I think I'll wait for the release and just do a re-install
[15:16] <charlie-tca> That works too, or grab the daily starting monday and do the re-install
[15:17] <ElderDryas> I WANT to compete with everyone for server access immediately after the release :)
[15:19] <ElderDryas> hmm...says lightdm-gtk-greeter is installed.  Any way to make that the default
[15:19] <charlie-tca> Well then waiting it the correct way to do it :)
[15:20] <charlie-tca> I think 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' or 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm-unity-gtk-greeter', but I won't promise it works
[15:46] <mario__> HI EVERYBODY!
[15:46] <ElderDryas> Well, that didn't work :(
[15:47] <ElderDryas> charlie-tca, Any reason to wait for Monday's daily build (as opposed to today's)?
[15:48] <mario__> Hey, guys, where can i thank the main developers of xubuntu? i'm very happy with it
[15:49] <charlie-tca> ElderDryas: more changes being uploaded to lightdm and other apps
[15:49] <ElderDryas> ah, thanks
[15:50] <charlie-tca> mario__: this is a good place. I will pass your thanks along
[15:50] <mario__> :D
[15:50] <mario__> it's been great
[15:50] <mario__> and gmusicbrowser is my favorite, it has it all!!!!
[15:50] <mario__> thanks to those who offer this incredible product for the sake of quality only
[15:51] <charlie-tca> You are very welcome. We are glad you find it useful!
[15:52] <mario__> have a great day, charlie-tca
[15:52] <mario__> bye
[17:18] <mecklen> I'm looking for a menu editor for xubuntu (11.04).  I know xubuntu folks recommend alacarte, but apt-get says that it will install 88 new packages, consuming 60MB of disk (including evolution-data-server and gnome-power-manager).  Isn't there something more lightweight and Xubuntu-ish?  Thanks for any suggestions.
[17:19] <m6locks> synaptic didn't produce any search results?
[17:19] <charlie-tca> mecklen: For Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus.
[17:19] <m6locks> not that i ever needed to edit any menus...
[17:20] <Sysi> copy .desktop file(s) from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications and add NoDisplay=true to item you want to hide
[17:21] <xaris> Hello all
[17:21] <mecklen> charlie-tca: Works like a charm!  Thank you!
[17:21] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[17:21] <xaris> how can i switch menu language to Greek?
[17:27] <TheSheep> xaris: you can select your language at the login screen
[17:48] <xaris> TheSheep i log in automatical
[17:48] <xaris> i installed glome-language selector but no luck
[17:52] <TheSheep> xaris: well, then log out, log in setting the language, and it will remember it
[17:52] <xaris> i do it i installed greek and i put them to first line but nothing changed
[18:18] <ronsonol> Is it possible to list directories by reference to filesystem device?  "ls /dev/sdb2" doesn't get you there.
[18:20] <XubuntuKris> open a shell into the device
[18:20] <XubuntuKris> I don't remember how right off hand though
[18:20] <XubuntuKris> then just "ls -a" once inside
[18:21] <ronsonol> Purpose is, want to write a script to output file listing contents of thumb drive without having to know the name of the volume, just where it's plugged in.
[18:21] <XubuntuKris> ronsonol, is it a thumb drive?
[18:21] <XubuntuKris> nvm
[18:21] <XubuntuKris> lol
[18:21] <XubuntuKris> should be possible...google it.lol
[18:22] <ronsonol> Yeah, I was not sure what *terms* to search.
[18:22] <Sysi> ls /media/*/ ?
[18:22] <XubuntuKris> he want's to do it without knowing the name of the device..
[18:22] <Sysi> that's why *
[18:22] <XubuntuKris> just the location
[18:22] <XubuntuKris> What if there are multiple devices mounted in /media?
[18:23] <ronsonol> Sysi that would probably work.  Kinda greedy.
[18:23] <XubuntuKris> that would list all of them
[18:23] <XubuntuKris> who know's which is which
[18:23] <Sysi> or just fail
[18:23] <XubuntuKris> it failed for me
[18:24] <XubuntuKris> ls: cannot access /media
[18:24] <Sysi> works for me, with one stick
[18:24] <XubuntuKris> brb
[18:24] <charlie-tca> It would depend on having the device(s) actually mounted in /media
[18:25] <Sysi> with two it shows partition names too
[18:25] <ronsonol> charlie-tca that's where they tend to automount tho.
[18:26] <ronsonol> I guess it's an academic thing now, but I am curious if there's a way to do it on the basis of device location.
[18:27] <XubuntuKris> dude. just do lsusb
[18:27] <XubuntuKris> nvm, that just lists the devices that are mounted
[18:28] <Sysi> mount and some grep.. if there isn't some nice way
[18:28]  * ronsonol mans lsusb
[18:32] <ronsonol> okay, I'm gonna go hack away at this.  FWIW, ultimate aim regards http://www.deaddrops.com -- jack into a dead drop, dump the directory, upload that to another dead drop to say what's over there.
[19:48] <raevol> i'm trying to figure out why firefox/xubuntu is chugging so hard on my netbook
[19:48] <raevol> could it be because i have no swap?
[19:49] <Sysi> how much ram, what cpy, what websites?
[19:49] <raevol> i've got 2 tabs open, gmail and facebook, i know those are javascript heavy, but i wouldn't think they'd slow to a crawl like they do
[19:49] <Sysi> *cpu
[19:49] <Sysi> open taskmanager and see cpu usage
[19:49] <raevol> using ~400megs of 1 gig of ram
[19:49] <Sysi> also what firefox version?
[19:49] <raevol> processor is a 1.6ghz intem atom
[19:49] <raevol> firefox 7.0.1
[19:50] <raevol> cpu is showing 2 cores which seems innacurate, but they are fluctuating between 20-70%
[19:51] <raevol> they're both caping ouut when i browse pages on facebook
[19:51] <raevol> is facebook really that cpu intensive?
[19:51] <Sysi> I think it is
[19:51] <Sysi> you could try mobile page.. and adblock
[19:52] <raevol> using adblock
[19:52] <Sysi> try taking it off
[19:52] <charlie-tca> add the swapfile, it will make a world of difference
[19:53] <Sysi> not on atom.. maybe if it's new one
[19:54] <raevol> it's an eeepc 901
[19:55] <raevol> disabling flash helped some
[19:56] <Sysi> you could try chromium, even if FF7 is fast
[19:57] <raevol> chromium is fast, but it hogs too much memory, i recently switched off of it
[19:58] <raevol> ah, system monitor is responsible for a lot of cpu usage, haha, just switched to a panel plugin instead
[19:58] <viller> I tried changing .xsession in Xubuntu but when I logged out and back in, the .xsession file was not executed
[21:10] <Nikyo> I'm installing xubuntu 11.04
[21:13] <madnick> :)
[21:38] <Nikyo> it's installing on a old Pentium 4 Micron computer
[21:50] <Nikyo> xubuntu runs the best on it.. I tried running it from a usb stick and it worked great...so I am installing from that.. I like it better than the ubuntu install.. xfce is nice and light
[21:51] <knome> Nikyo, glad to hear you are enjoying xubuntu
[21:53] <Nikyo> i am.. been using linux since red hat 5.0
[23:25] <Zetacu> hello i'm new installing Xubuntu and i want to try if my tvcard is compatible. In this page it say it is. But i do'nt understand what they mean about the modules: tuner_xc2028 and cx8800. how can I install those o what I need to do to enable them? the page is this one http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Powercolor_Real_Angel_330
[23:37] <well_laid_lawn> Zetacu: you have xubuntu installed now?